/biz/ - Business & Finance

I literally just got this in the mail a couple days ago. Fuck me.

>he bought the reddit stick

>>25001621
You're safe.

I got all my shit leaked though fuck man

>>25001567
> he bought meme hardware wallets for magical internet money instead of buying physical gold and silver
Ngmi

>>25001567
I am wondering why people panic about this. Its not like anyone will come to your house and rob your ledger. If you are scared just buy another one and put 0.1 eth in there or some shit.

>>25001567
oh man some autistic ass hole i know just bought one of these and was bragging to his zoomer retard friends about it i hope he burns from this

>>25001567
If I got mine from amazon am I good?

https://pastebin.com/pBED4Pe5

Breach mirrors.

All legit.

Unlucky mate, you just outed yourself as a redditor. only redditards own one of these things, imagine trusting a company with your data linked to your funds. chads use metamask or a paper wallet.

>>25001567
better pay your taxes fag
IRS will fucking audit everyone on that list.

>>25001702
whoever bought after July should be fine, but you should send a request to Ledger to delete all your personal data ASAP. those retards keep leaking it.

Bought last month so not in the hack. Invoked GDPR to have all my info deleted from their databases. Hopefully they actually do it.

>>25001696
There have been confirmed reports of people being tortured for crypto, don't be stupid.

>>25001567
Find a not so democratic hell hole and buy a firearm. Defense is an inherent right. Keep it secure and discreet. Fuck their draconian statutes.

>build a technologically complex device for secure transfer of cryptocurrencies

>can't secure customer database

how does this make sense

>>25001567
Get it delivered to a PO Box, dumbass.

>>25001567
>f you bought this at all within the last 3 years
no, just prior to July 2020

lol why the fuck do you need your entire personal life connected to this. i thought crypto was meant to be.... i dunno... ANONYMOUS!?!?

>>25001767
It's pretty well documented that the vast majority of people in crypto are 90% down from their initial investment. think about all the ICO scams that have never recovered. How will they know who has money and who doesnt?

>>25001750
someone confirmed they're on the list as of 2 days ago, when they made their purchase. Check out the leaks for yourself to be sure.

>>25001696
you have no idea what people will do for greed, they will skin you alive and stomp on your bones for your passwords and cryptowallet

>>25001803
It's customer shipping info

>>25001842
who the fuck cares about your address being leaked? no one actaully got their crypto stolen?

>>25001567
why are there three threads up on this right now?
this happened months ago

>>25001815
>someone confirmed they're on the list as of 2 days ago
doesn't make sense as the leak is from a June hack. Unless they got hacked yesterday again. I checked and I'm not in it.
I did check

It would be funny if this happened to like amazon or something and 99% of people's addresses and phone numbers would become public info.

>>25001741
Some guy on reddit bought two days ago and is in the leak too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/kh4lhr/i_bought_a_ledger_on_friday_two_days_ago_and_my/

>>25001864
Yes, but Ledger told it was just 9500 people info leak.

Turns out it's 250K people lmao

>>25001864
Today all database was uploaded for free to some forum and now literally everyone have this data not only hacker

>>25001567
There is literally nothing you can do. Since your name is already out, the government knows that you bought a ledger and there own bitcoin. You will be on their bitcoin hitlist no matter what happens

>>25001811
>the vast majority of people in crypto are 90% down from their initial investment
Wrong

>>25001767
This is why if anyone ever comes for your crypto you fight to the death. There is no other option

>>25001881
Leak happened in June and whoever did it wanted 100k for the database, someone bought it and dumped it online like 2hrs ago.

>>25001696
they will literally go to your house and torture you for your seedphrase, its already happened.

bought my ledger in 2017. im not on there, anyone know why? or did not everyone get leaked?

>>25001936
Yep, carry a gun

>>25001708
#metoon. god bless jeff.

>>25001922
>>25001916
god damnit
I'm probably on there
got a call from an unknown number the other day, guess I known why

>>25001958
we don't know anon ask the ledger lads

>>25001910
Weird, I bought during black friday and my address isn't in there, I only asked them to delete my data today.

>>25001979
yeah I'm on there
bought in September

>>25001976
Absolutely based Jeff. Protecting my personal info and my linkies.

>>25001964
my stocks are secured by brokers that have been around for a hundred years and its all insured by the government and people cant link their bank account to my account without being traced and needing all my personal info

>>25001863
People are obviously concerned about physical attacks. I got lucky, the address in the leak isn't mine anymore.

i bought one through amazon, am I going to be okay?

>>25002056
jesus christ what a bunch of fucking pussies

>>25001936
>There is no other option
Buy another Ledger but from Amazon, put like 0.5 ETH, 2500 XRP and an assortment of some absolute shitcoins on it and if anyone gets to you pretend that's your actual Ledger

>>25001567
listen up fags.

Go to your local PC repair shop. Ask them if they will buy your hardware wallet of choice for you and you will pay with cash. Be straight up and say that this is the exact kind of thing you don't want to have happen. They will charge you like 3-5% markup and be happy to do so.

>>25001567
>If you bought this at all within the last 3 years, your address, full name, email, and phone number have been leaked.
Not true I'm not in the leak and bought in that time frame. Its only people that bought direct from the online shop. If you bought from a verified reseller than you aren't in the leak.

>>25002100
check the file, you're probably good though

>>25001567
I just encrypted all my stuff and now I have 5 backups, only because 5 is all I figure I need. I may burry one in the yard later just incase. It cost me 10 dollars in SD cards.

i wasn't on the list at the first site but when i checked with haveibeenpwned it listed ledger so check that as well. i got some weird ledger related spam a while back too.

>>25001567
I bought one last week for someone and my burner email isn't even on there.

>>25002100
Your good the breach happened on ledgers own store it was shipping information that leaked.

>>25002102
If I was a nigger I’d jump some of these people

>>25002147
This is just introducing a new attack vector. If you gonna do this, at least make sure it's through someone you know isnt technically competent and wouldnt be able to tamper with your ledger.

>>25001767
Oh fuck I just bought a ledger X.

>>25002211
can i get a link?

>>25002130
I'm going to do this, already have a backup that I can use in the extremely rare chance that someone actually acts on this information

>>25002370
buy a gun instead

>>25001567
You must be stupid retard to give your real Name anyone

this is fucking retarded. Do you think criminals can't already source an excess of profitable extortion targets?
you and your maybe 10k internet money is a trivial signal vs someone with a big fucking house and a nice car in a rich suburb

>>25001567

I bought directly from Ledger, but surprisingly I don't show up in the buyers list. I only show up in the subscriber list (email only). The phishing emails I've been getting for some time only refer to me as "client". I'm guessing my contact info wasn't in this particular hack.

>>25002028
stocks are for fucking faggots that hate making REAL money

>>25002363
https://archive.is/RdBtk#selection-369.0-369.51

>>25001956
Source? Was it a thirdworld shithole?

>>25002442
>real name
jeeze did your parents teach you this in 2003? noone gives a fuck. your email or phone number is more abusable

>>25002541
Sounds like someone who doesn't know how to make money with stocks. I've made > $800k in stocks this year.

>>25002442
This. I call myself the Zodiac.

CoinbaseCHAD's win again.

>>25002554
Hackers always have that annoying air about them, I don't know what it is...

>>25001696
>If you are scared just buy another one

>>25001988
I bought during Black Friday and my info is there. Weird

Anyone who ever bought a hardware wallet and uses it is 100% fucked.
Criminals are already checking out your online presence and your neighbours, your workplace, your house and family/friends.
they dont show up because your shitcoins are not valuable enough or you are lower on their priority list for some reason.
if you make it you better vanish, hop countries, change your name.

>>25001567
why do you need this? can't you just download a wallet to your hard drive or a thumb drive?

>>25001567
if you bought from ledger through forms. be precise.

>>25002691
NPC cattle aka easy prey for criminals and intelligence agencies that need quick funding.

>>25001834
That's your problem, Pedro.

>>25001988
>>25002667
Your Info should only be there if you bought direct from there store. The leak is shipping information.

>>25002554
how retarded would you have to be to our yourself in another database with your ip address on just to see if you've been leaked on another database

>>25002130
>ok, that's the fake one, now the real one
>oh no, the tortureeeeee

>>25001958
>bought my ledger in 2017. im not on there
same

>>25001935
I looked up the people in my area on this list and they are almost all black, hispanic or slavic. so i assume they fell for scams like NEO or whatever

>>25001567
As a gun nut I’ve been waiting my whole life to shoot an intruder. Looks like my odds just went way up kek. I’ll share the news story with you all.

>bought from them twice (in July 2017 and Sep 2020)
>not on the buyer's list
My email was on the "Subscriptions" list, but not so worried about that.

Lmao fuck ledger, guess I'm done using that piece of shit. I'll leave 1 eth on it for the nigger that tries to rob me.

Big whoop. Scammers have my email but not my full name nor my address since I moved a couple of times. Ledger FUD is weak and boring.

>>25001834
what if I have a gun in my pocket and I shoot 10 times in their legs?

>tfw own a ledger but don't live in the usa, mexico, south america
Feels good.

>>25002954
You live in the uk, youre still fucked

>>25002971
>You live in the uk
No I don't retard.

>>25002851
>"intruder"
they are just going to cut your moms ears off and tell you where to send your funds.

>>25002885
>>25002825

>>25002196
I bought direct from online shop and not in there

>>25002954
Why does the country where you live matter?

>>25003072
congrats, even more people likely have your info now.

>>25001925
People aren’t worried about the government. People are worried about criminals showing up at their house with firearms and torture implements.

>>25003079
it doesnt, he really thinks he is safe from power drill torture to his knees.
they can get you anywhere.

>>25001567
>found my info on there. Not sure what to do now. I live in a liberal hellhole, can't
Anyone got a link to search??

>>25001979
>>25002014
Nevermind
downloaded the dump and only my email was leaked
feels good

>>25001567
>can't own any guns
print one?

>>25001774
>inherent
Stop using this word until you learn what it means. Also “inherent right” is redundant because a right is inherent by definition.

>>25003040
My mom died when I was a kid anon. I have security cameras up everywhere, big dogs that bark when a raccoon walks by outside. I think I’ll be okay. But thanks for the imagery.

This really is a matter of time before a whale is found and held for ransom to transfer their crypto.

>>25003139
I don't want j*nnies to ban me for doxxing
I found a link to a pastebin with an anonfiles link look for that.
look on the ledger subreddit, there's a post from 2 hours ago with malware in it, don't download that one, but in the comments someone links to the pastebin
I swear to FUCK jannies if you ban me for this, I'm going to be pissed.

>>25003139
>>25002554

>>25003236
Says you have to login or register to view the contents. Anyone just got a link to actual search? I'm not making an account.

I'm not on the list. Is that all the list. I bought from them last september.

>>25003322
>>25003227

Cool story.
I live in Japan and have since moved to another city. I literally dgaf, bolero.

>>25003144
I didn't find any of my details and it didn't make me feel any better. Who knows the extent of this.

>>25001567
This is why I still use MEW.

This is also why you should Just use Kleros.

SEE YOU IN KLEROS COURT.

>>25003181
you have friends or family or a wife or children etc. they are their targets and they are probably not locked up in your basement which means they have jobs and friends and daily routines.
People that can be identified close to you are targets now or open up to manipulation to reveal more info about you.
you think they have to come to your house to fuck you up? think again
make another dumb post you confirm to be a prime target for criminal extortion because you are as dumb as a mule.

>>25003353
i mean, the worst thing they can get is your shipping info and theoretically payment info (although there's no evidence of this yet), I paid with crypto so I guess they might be able to get one of my addresses but whatever.
They can't get your private keys from ledger's servers, because none of that info is stored on ledger's servers.
I looked up the specs of these things a while ago, the chipset they're using has a built in true random number generator, so that's not a concern.

Why should you be more worried about criminals than your run of the mill millionaire? I know plenty of rich people who just live normal lives, some of them even show off their wealth. It really goes to show how many 3rdwolders there are on here when they're worried about extremely rare crimes in the 1st world. We have functioning police forces here. You should be more worried about phishing links.

>>25002028

Good thing I ordered it as a gift.

>>25002534
Got the same email. I'm wondering if the people with compromised shipping details had a more personalized email.

bro I can't figure out how to open any of these fucking lists can someone help a bro out

>>25003601
>We have functioning police forces here
Lol, im in New Jersey, USA. If I kill a nigger who breaks in my house I am getting charged with murder. I have a “duty to retreat.”

>>25001782
this is exactly what I did, but I've already been getting phishing attempts

Wrong faggot. I searched the database and my email isn't even on it.

You can assume any random person have a few thousand K in their normal bank, so why not torture literally any random person into buying crypto with normal money and sending it to your wallet?

>>25003354
Serious question: can we sue these frogniggers in Kleros Court?

>>25003911
Because the transfer can happen in home to a wallet that can then be tumbled or swapped to monero you stupid faggot.

>>25002818
yeah i aint clicking that shit nigga

i aint clicking that shit nigga but can somone who is dumb enough to click it do a search for some high profile people
elon
gates
congressmen
senators
ceo's
etc

>>25003911
because thats retarded. You are going to torture someone, get them to KYC onto an exchange, wait a week for confirmation, have them buy crypto and transfer it? or are you simply going to steal someones ledger at gunpoint?

what is up with all these brainlets on /biz/?

>>25004024
Which then begs the question why go after hard internet traced assets at gun point when you could steal literally anything else?
>Break in
>Kill and rape everyone
>Take credit cards
Wow, you now have at least 24 hours to go to the pawn store and buy a shit ton of gold and you have another 24 hours to leave the country. Average American has 3-5 credit cards because burgers love debt. Each card has at least 4k line of credit. No drawn out torture needed. Pop dead, go buy shit.

>>25001567
haveibeenpwnd has already been updated, so if you're curious about whether or not you've been effected by the compromise you can look there. I'm safe.

so now that Ledger has been compromised, where should we store our crypto? I have a bunch of PRQ and it's just sitting in my MetaMask. I've tried shoving them up my ass but I don't have enough room.

There is also the fact that every major app, device, and service sell all this personal information everyday to nameless entities, while recording your every keystroke and mouse movement. Google knows what you fap to, and everyone you care about and they sell that info 100 times a day.

>>25001567
Where do we find the list? I wanna know if I'm on it.

>>25004203
It doesn't matter what you do, you need to change name and address IRL or you will always be at risk of having Tyrone and Jaquarius ready to fuck you up.

>>25004172
It won't tell you which list you're on tho
I'm on there, but only my email leaked

>>25003911
Go back

>>25004230
this no one is secure on the internet. the better strategy is to behave as if everything is compromised

>>25001567
Biz bought.
Cuck yo leaks, tuna fish.

>>25004258
True. So if you aren't on pwnd you're good, but if you are you're going to need further investigation. I bought in August/Sept of this year from the site and I'm not on the list, for reference.

not a big deal im moving anyways whatever

There are famous crypto youtubers and twitter guys who are known to have lots of crypto and theyve never been robbed, how likely do you think someone is going to bother robbing you?

>>25004322
no one knows their address I suppose and also it's easier to target a nobody than a famous guy

>>25004297
i bought in 2017 and I'm in the pwned list, i don't know about phone number or address yet though

I'm on that list. At first I had a panic attack but an anon on here calmed me down a few weeks back.

The reality is like >>25003601 anon says leaks like this happen all the time, and that rich people actually show off their wealth. The days of people physically coming after you are gone for the most part unless you live in a high crime area.

What you really need to worry about are phishing and scams, and hacks into your phone number and email that can compromise 2fa. Unfortunately since I'm on that list, that's the first thing I'm going to do be doing. This also means pulling all info I can find online.

Customer list leaks happen all the time, your personal info is out there for people to see. Hell, look, you can go on Zillow and look up someone's house, get the worth of that house and estimate that person's net-worth. It's really not that hard to target rich people if you want to go over to their house with a crowbar and a gun.

Fact of the matter is that we are living in an age where information is everywhere, which is great for criminals, but the downside is that criminals can be easily tracked, especially physically tracked. It goes both ways.

>>25004415
Welp, if you're on the pwnd list you should definitely look deeper and see just how much you've been compromised.

what data got leaked? what's personal info is in the dump?

>>25001567

I had a ledger sent to where I live but haven't set it up or anything yet. Is my home address likely leaked or is that something once its set up and in use?

>>25004438
that's why i always use my official address (where i don't actually live) and get delivery to a post office

>>25004438
This. Yahoo email sends me a "sorry we leaked all your shit" email at least once a year.

>>25004565
It's your mailing address so yeah, it could be leaked

>>25004048
steve wozniak is on there

>>25001686
Sometimes I feel like an ultra retard because I invest in precious metals and still buy magic internet money and then I realize most people only invest in manga or cars

>>25004747
wow fuck okay does any one have a link so I can check if it was leaked?

>>25004438

we're still at a period where it is easier/ perceived as easier and more lucrative to do a strong arm crypto jacking than steal a car and jewelry. Luckily for most of us, the kind of people who would do it are not sophisticated enough to know about this leak or access it generally.
The guys I really feel bad for on the list are the ones in Moscow and Bulgaria.

>>25001811
>How will they know who has money and who doesnt?
That's what the jumper cables are for, Anon. Do you have a 220V power outlet in your bedroom or will they have to drag you, screaming, into the laundry room?

>bought from ledger twice
>info not on the list

then again im in europe. Is that list only for burgers?

>>25004775
>>25004172

>>25005226
Nah, I'm a burger and I'm not on the list. For a while I thought it was just people with gmail addresses, because people use those for fucking everything and they're always compromised, but now I'm not sure what the common thread is.

>>25005320
weird. I was using a gmail address too.

Bought twice from ledger and not on the list. Very strange

>>25001567
oh no not my name, email and phone number. what ever shall i do?

>>25001730
You don't have to pay taxes on holding crypto, ledger isn't exactly for trading...

>>25001567
I bought last year from their online shop and i'm not in the list. Lucky.

>>25005329
Same, I bought two: one for primary and one for backup.

>>25001567
Here's the Twitter thread where Ledger is addressing this in case anyone is interested: https://twitter.com/Ledger/status/1340769565639233536

>>25005330
and address. im coming to visit with a wrench ;)

>>25005547
>Our customer support team is working 24/7
>24/7
OOOOHHHH WAAAAAAAAAAAGGGIEEEEEEEEEE

>>25004438
It's completely different for rich people. You can't steal stocks or real estate. Even money from your bank account is very difficult to steal and transactions are reversible. Crypto can easily be stolen without the possibility to recover it. It's like storing gold bars at your home. I would be very paranoid if i were on that list.

>>25001567
I probably live in the most ghetto ass neighborhood of Brasil. I want to see one motherfucker try to come over, I’ll have cookies.

>>25001567
Just great, now everyone knows I'm flat broke.

>>25005632
That's even more amusing if you've ever had to work with their customer support. It takes a good week or so for them to get in touch with you if you contact them with an issue. You literally get better customer support by working with random assholes on Reddit than with the company.

>>25005671
rest in peace anon

>>25005630
>wrench
good you can fix my truck while i have my rifle aimed at your head

am i a schizo or is this a psyop? how the fuck does a crypto company not understand how encryption works? something is fishy

>>25001567
where can you see if your info leaked?

>>25005757
https://haveibeenpwned.com/

Guys this is REAL bad. They have our home address

>>25005775
that just seems like an email farming website

>>25004172
Just checked my email and I’ve only been pwned by chegg.

>>25005883
Newfag

>>25001567

who cares if people know you have crypto. do you think millionaires are being visited by gunmen in 1st world countries?

>>25005883
it's legit and has been around for a while, idk how you've never heard of it

>>25005671
you should be worried more about people in your favela than outsiders, unless you're connected with the guys that run shit

>>25005775
Well i moved away a while ago. i guess im fucked if they steal my phone number somehow and hack my gmail and somehow find mu 2fa reset codes

>>25002651

based. I got half my cones on coinbased

>>25001567
Bought about 3 years ago (probably a little bit over or under) and my info is not there

>>25005300

Thanks I was pwned but not by ledger lmao

>>25005809
The scenario in which a burglar comes to your home is extremely low. The criminal would need to be willing to enact violence on you to earn your key. They can do the same thing to someone that doesn't have a Trezor and accomplish a similar outcome.

In other words, if someone is willing to torture or intimidate you to steal your money - the fact you own Bitcoin doesn't change much.

>>25005981
if you're on haveibeenpwned you should check the actual list to see what they have, they only got my email.
it's not hard to find, just watch out for malware

>>25001767
name a dozen. you'll give up at half that
it happens, but you have much higher chances to get in a car accident, or even to get robbed by a random nignog

>>25005634
delusional. the chance of someone in a rich house having >$10k worth of cash or jewelry laying around is much higher than the chance of some random autist on a list having >$10k worth of crypto. not to mention you can steal said cash/jewelry without violence, whereas stealing the crypto will involve violence = higher risk if caught

>>25006023
It's much easier and irreversible to do a crypto transfer.

>>25001767
Get that from your dad who works at nintendo, did you?

>>25003972
Kek. Someone give us the answer. Why would their liability to oblige in the Kleros court be?

>>25001811
>It's pretty well documented that the vast majority of people in crypto are 90%

post link

>>25006118
It's also transparent. Won't be hard to find the perpetrator. It's a risk reward scenario that doesn't make a lot of sense. Statistically there are very few burglaries, and the probability of being held at gunpoint is so low it's not worth losing sleep over.

The amount of criminals willing to do this is mind bogglingly low, but because it's a sensational scenario and our imagination easily takes hold - we assign a disproportionate amount of energy in worrying about it. Same reason that gun owners statistically never need their gun for some type of fantastic home invasion fantasy they create in their head, and they are ironically statistically now wildly higher risk of using the weapon on themselves or a family member rather than an intruder.

The scenario you create in your head isn't going to happen.

>>25001567
it's true, i've received 2 mails last week and 3 sms last month from pajeets

that being said, they only know that you bought a ledger. they can't know if that ledger even has any crypto, all they have is a database of hundreds of thousands of people buying a product. which is why this "attack" is nothing but a blind campaign of phishing spam, hoping to scam tech illiterate people

that being said i learned my lesson. never use my main email or main phone for transactions ever again, always have a throwaway email for shit like that, never trust companies

>>25004827
I feel sorry for the people in venezuela desu

>>25006693
People in third world countries might unironically get goons sent to their homes.

>>25005958
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/bitcoin-robbery-torture-cryptocurrency-netherlands-a8807986.html

this guy in NL got drill to his kneecaps in front of his 4yo daughter.

you can't steal stocks (transfer limits) but you can definitely force Ledger transfers.

I BOUGHT 55 LEDGER NANOS TO RESELL ON AMAZON THEY PROBABLY THINK I HAVE MANY CRYPTOS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>25006886
He bragged openly that he was crypto rich.

What the fuck is someone gonna do with info to me?? My ledger has a whopping $300 on it. Just because someone has a ledger doesn't mean they have more than maybe $800 tops on it. Hell, most of these ledgers likely have shitcoins that are still down 90%.

Obviously, phishing is the route to go to make a profit. Breaking in randomly over this?? Too risky/dangerous for some shitcoins or a little bit of ETH...

>>25001567
What if I bought on Amazon?

>>25006985
right. but >>25005958 was talking about millionaires. look at the leak and there are prominent crypto insiders there together with their PII.

if you are a noname person then this leak is a nothing burger. if you are an OG and slipped up with your opsec, then ... I hope all goes well.

>he lives on cuckfield

>>25001956
Omg just shut the fuck up you absolute retard. No one is coming into your moms house to find your sweaty fat ass in the basement gorging on hot pockets. Kys

>>25001686
basado

love the ledger treatment of the situtation
>akshully it's just a false rumour
>akshully it's only 9000 leaked emails
>akshully it's only 9000 leaked addresses
>akshully it's 75% of our customers

>>25007086
Fuck off that's me, delete that right now

If they leak shit like this why the fuck should I trust them with my crypto?
Moving all my coins off my ledger and binning it

>>25002467
You can move 100k in crypto with a single transaction and nobody gives a fuck. If you try to extort someone for that amount you can't move that money from bank to bank without raising suspicion. You may get the housecash of a richfag but you can't make him move a significant amount of funds your way in an untraceable way. You can with crypto and jiggers will be the first to realize

I ordered a Trezor this year (still keep my coins in the exchanges though, never used that shit).

Since they are based in Czech Republic, eg in EU with its GDPR, can I request them to delete my data?

>>25007777
Quads

>ordered from burner email
>shipped to po box near my job
>Shipped to fame name
>Name not on list and neither is email
>Used BTC for the purchase
Am...am I safe?

>>25007912
phone #?

>>25001906
That's called a phone book

>bad guys show up at house
>give them decoy ledger with some eth on it
>well we're still going to kill you now since we don't want to leave evidence

>bad guys show up at house
>genuinely don't have any money in crypto because you mortgaged your house into nano back in 2017
>well we don't know what you have so we're just torture you and kill you since we don't want to leave evidence

>bad guys show up at house
>you somehow win the ensuing gun fight
>your name and situation is plastered all over the news
>"hey aren't you that guy who has a shit ton of crypto?"

absolutely justed. ledger fucked so many people. why would they even retain that information.

>>25008019
kek

>>25000000

>>25001686
magical internet money can make you rich. boomer rocks can only make you poor lol. idiot

>>25008126
literally just fucking MOVE
don't ever use that email address again,
change phone numbers and name

>>25001567
I am not on there thank God. I bought during black friday from their website. I emailed them demanding to have my info removed regardless. They shouldn't be keeping this information anyways. At least delete the fucking addresses. Good god.

>>25005960
this is biz not g

>>25008235
You can't change your name without making it public

>>25008235
just buy a new house bro
works on my machine

>>25007777
Trezor is safe, not ledger though

Luckily I already moved
They might break into my ex's house
Luckily she has no clue where I live now

where can I see if Im on the list?

>>25009287
>where can I see if Im on the list?

https://intelx.io/?did=8761746e-d333-4256-bbcd-9100c8722799

>>25009287
>https://intelx.io/?did=8761746e-d333-4256-bbcd-9100c8722799

Click the tree view to expand.

>>25001567
Dope somehow my buyer data wasn't leaked only my email on the sub list

>>25006954
Justice served. Resellers are even more useless than traders

>>25001567
So to me the best solution to anyone who has their info leaked is to move most of your funds to another wallet and keep the ledger as a "burner" with 5% or so of your total holdings so if anyone comes to torture you for it you can hand it over.

>>25009465
I've just got a 1gb usb stick that I'll give the niggers if they try to come for me. Dumb niggers won't even notice hahaha

I moved, am I good?

I bought a Trezor am I still fucked?

got this email yesterday as well, they are quick

>>25009342
so if your email doesn't come up in a search of the buyer lists your good right

>>25006023
>>25006118
no one know how much crypto you hold. They jsut have your addy. So you really think someone is going to spend hours to figure out your holding. Then more hrs to find you then risk going to jail for 50$ of xrp just incase they got it wrong?

I'm free!

>>25006404
Honestly your post made me feel a lot better, I was getting really worried for my safety.

Thanks anon <3

>>25009639
I think there are two separate lists. But the ones that have their name, address reveal have it worst.

>>25001567
>mfw my gf bought me one, so they got her data, not mine

>>25009287
https://monitor.firefox.com/

>>25009287
https://www.didledgerfuck.me/

>>25001958
Me either. A relative bought one in 2018 I think and they're just on the email list.

>>25008126
Just sell all your crypto and buy property. They won't make you sign over a deed at gunpoint.

https://easyupload.io/m3aatf
I checked for my name and email and suprisingly I'm not on the list. I bought on black friday btw.

>>25005775
Guess I'm in the clear lol

>>25010026
your email is on the list if you subscribed to their newsletter before '20 jun 26. your address is on the list if you bought ledger between '18 february (or march idk) and '20 jun 26.

>>25005775
For checking your commonly used passwords for breach
https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords

>>25001958
>>25002829
>>25009966

see
>>25010116

>>25010116
>>25010140
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015559320-E-commerce-and-Marketing-data-breach-FAQ

okay i rememberd wrong

>The API key misconfiguration at issue has been running since August 9th, 2018. Based on the information we have, we believe it was discovered and exploited from April 2020 to June 28th, 2020.

so the rekt ones are those who bought between '18 aug 9th and '20 june 28th

>>25001567
Only if you bought before June 2020. I checked and both my dad and I aren't on either of the lists. We bought in September and November

>>25001567
Thankfully I haven't found myself in the leak. Still requested complete removal of my personal data. Maybe I should really go for a paper wallet or just use a cheap thinkpad for this.

>>25001910
>>25001881
>>25001815

my guess is that he subscribed to ledger's newsletter before jun 28th, but only ordered on black friday. and they only checked the email address db (only their email was leaked)

>>25010194
How do you request removal ?

>>25002928
>shoot
>their legs
ngmi

>>25010194
Just contact them through their website. They are obliged to remove your personal data from their database after user's request. Doesn't matter if you're in the leak though

> open in vm if you're scared
> https://intelx.io/?s=7c2bd1c7-ff69-40d8-b706-8e90af9642a0

> searchable, go to tree view to see different documents

pic related

>>25010132
Don't do this lads.

>>25010253
>https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords
>fuckmywife
>iamworthless
>godhelpme
>fuckmyboss
>ieatdogs
>iamagod
>ifuckcats
>ilove4chan
mmh.......it goes on forever, humans are fucked up

>>25001708
I don't even remember where or when I bought mine (probably in 18') shit. I haven't even used it to store anything yet.

>>25010472
>>25010132
meant to quote

>>25010100
>visit www.haveibeenpwned2.com
>enter address
>PWNED www.haveibeenpwned.com leaked your address.

you can go in and put in random names, town names etc. i am having fun with google maps

>>25001715
is this legit? why is it a zip?

>>25010563
maybe they don't want it google searchable because that'd be a bit too much of being an asshole.

>>25010472
>ifuckcats
leaf detected

Nobody is going to your home and extorting you.

This is not the risk. Only paranoid fools see it as one. The crimes like this are actually so rare its negligable.

REAL RISK is SIM swap attacks you dumbass clowns

>>25001686
>buying physical gold and silver
nice returns faggot LOL

i bought in 2018 and only email (no adress) was leaked. the file with adresses has ~4.2k entries

We are coming to get you mother fuckers.

t.The Russian Mafia

>>25001686
>he thinks the website he ordered his shiny rock can't be hacked
You dumb fucking boomer

>>25001708
Yeah from the hack. Not from the Chinese spyware loaded on to third party ledgers, though.

>>25010643
Ya bet, they can come try. What's that sim thing though?

>>25010881
that only applies to dumbfucks who use sms verification rather than 2fa
man i envy u mutts i want me guns

>name
>address
>phone number
>email
compromised

Address was a temporary address I was staying at and delivery was to my paypal address.

Just scraped in.
Enjoy your wrench attacks

>>25001778
that was pretty much i didnt go for a ledger and bought a safepal because if they can't ever secure the fucking emails of their customers how am i supposed to trust their hardware with all my fucking crypto

>>25010307
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A LINK WHICH DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING VIEW LIMIT JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

uhhh....guys?

>>25002842
People like you actually exist. Kek. You should be in a zoo. Or a museum.

>>25009323
>you have reached the daily limit
Great site

>>25010881
that's a long barrel anon, combined with that stock and the scope I suppose there is little recoil on that bad boy? good for medium range targets definitely.

>>25010881
>>25011861
I am just applying my knowledge of Modern Warfare Call of Duty to the picture of your gun, when you customize guns in Modern Warfare the longer barrels and those kinds of stocks usually have little recoil, then the scope is for aiming at larger distances.

>>25004438
America's crime rate is rapidly rising as niggers gain increasingly greater power. They won't ever forget you're on that list

>>25010505
Imagine worrying about your e-mail address leaking.

Can we take them to kleros court?

>>25012634
It's fine until there's another leak elsewhere that ties your email to a home address

>>25012691
asking the real questions here

>>25012726
People's home addresses are public knowledge too, you know.

>>25012750
Email addresses of the occupants aren't, though they may as well be given how lacking data protection can be.

>>25001715
Thanks anon, local cartels will probably pay good for this info....... jk

>>25012878
that's from a /k/ meet

>>25001567
I bought off amazon on a burner account, gift card paid to a fake name, PO box.

Im fine.

guys my full name, address, phone number, and email were leaked. and im going to be traveling soon. what is the best way to secure my seed phrase? should i rent a bank safety deposit box?

fugg my address and phone are leaked. thank fuck I had moved to a different city tho

>>25013010
encrypted jpg on your hard drive should be fine desu, just delete the encryption software so it's not obvious you done have that

What can we legally do against those french baguette retards that leaked or info online anons? I don't fucking like having my address and phone number on the internet because a meme company is swimming in incompetence. My shit will transition to a trezor but I want my revenge. "Sorry" doesn't cut it.

>>25013010
that is, encrypt the seed phrase into a strandard jpg file, it's impossible to tell whether it has something encoded or not. standard encryption works too but then they know there's something you're hiding

>>25013129
u can class action lawsuit them with the other 250k ppl if you're lucky the company will have enough funds to over $25 each

>>25003698
>not living in a place with no escape routes
it’s like you don’t even know how to new jersey

What if you've moved several times since then?

>>25003698
>duty to retreat

>>25005965
t. person with an opinion about risk assessment for someone else

>>25010881
some whatever crackhead enters your home and if he just enters the same room as you you're fucked with that long boi

get a gun for your home bro

>>25006118
that used to be correct. The attack vector you’re talking about mainly formed due to police having ignorance of the new technology and being unwilling to prosecute or pursue crimes related to it with as much gusto as they might, for instance, a case with stolen jewelry. additionally coupled to this is the dark money factor, where initial bitcoin adoptees subject to this attack vector (strongarm harvesting) often had only their personal wallets with strong connections to criminal activity.
however, with only a few exceptions, the regulatory attitude toward the space has changed as well as law enforcement‘s understanding and capability to track and catch criminals trafficking in it.

>>25012821
What do you gain from putting the two together?

>>25012821
>>25013361
it's not public knowledge who ordered bitcoin hardware wallets though

LOL THERE IS SERGEY IN HERE LMAOOO

>>25013427
OH NONONONONONO

>>25013386
This particular discussion was about the possibility of that haveibeenpwned site leaking your e-mail address.

In any case, this isn't really a problem.
There are so many names and addresses in there, and some of the biggest whales have been publicly identifying themselves on social media for years.

>>25001567
lol, i truly outsmarted psychotic hardwallet storers with my simple Electrum wallet and a piece of paper with the seed on it. How idiotic are you buying a pre determined address?

>>25013427
lmaoo the "d" stands for dump

>>25013513
Your Electrum address is no less "predetermined" than a Ledger address.

>>25013010
Ya your fucked, I live in a small town and found like 8 peoples names and addresses locally. Your local drug dealers are going to rob you. Buy a gun or just build one since we are in a gun shortage due to panic.

>Oh no — pwned!
>Pwned in 6 data breaches and found no pastes (subscribe to search sensitive breaches)

what does the ledger breach come up as if you have been affected by it?

>>25013621
Ledger

>>25013691
looks like its one of the only ones that i havent been exposed to. fucking dropbox and linkedin

>>25013599
also gonna do this. never owned a gun before. im gonna light these niggers up if they try to cop my 10K LINK stack

>>25013776
https://lbry.tv/@Deterrence-Dispensed:2

>>25001686
Hardware wallets are a meme for sure, but why not both? I have 1/3 of my emergency fund (1 year of living expenses) in gold AND I'm throwing a portion of my monthly salary on magic beans internet money

Hey cunts where do I get the leak from ffs I want to download it

>>25001567
>didn't set up a paper wallet
>trusted third party company with your address
>didn't use an alias
>didn't get it delivered to a PO Box in another town
Jesus Christ people

Can someone upload the ledger.com leak somewhere better because raidforums asks for 'credits' faggotry

>>25004438
>The days of people physically coming after you are gone for the most part
Wrong. This will increase along with the increasing divide between haves and have-nots. As the rich get richer, the poor get more desperate. And everything is accelerated with corona.

i looked on havibeenpwned.com
my main adress got breached three times
my secondary address a dozen times lol wtf
but ledger is not mentioned there
so that means Im good?
jesus christ its shocking to see how many of these retarded websites got hacked and leaked my info

>>25014251
https://pastebin.com/pBED4Pe5

>>25014188
I imagine there is a group of tards with their seed or private keys on a txt file on their Windows desktop.

>>25014367
Based af wish me luck anon

What is it with so called hackers using file host links and not torrents?
I wanna see if my data is in the leak but none of the stupid file host links work