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I remember you, Yeah man send him and email on monday morning.

>>24997044
post music

>>24997116
Ok I will, thanks anon.
What should it say?

>>24997157
https://arouralrecords.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-vending-machines-1-2

>>24997321
nice anon, not really my thing, but i understand what you are trying to do and its quality.

>>24997510
Thanks friend

>>24997116
Yea but don’t make it a desperate email

Make it a closing email

“Hi Retail Anon,

Following up the pricing request I sent over to you on Friday. How many copies would you like me to ship to you? I can have them express posted and in your store by X date.

Cheers

Music Anon”

>>24998299
Thanks, that's really helpful. I'll send something like that tomorrow.

>>24998364
I don’t know you it what you’re trying.
I hope you make it all the same, your circumstances sound exciting.
God bless you and best of luck brother.

>>24997044
Hey anon I remember you, I asked you for your bandcamp yesterday

>>24998397
Thank you anon, you as well.

>>24998483
yeah I tend to ask for advice a lot on here and then end up shilling my music when someone asks lol

>>24997044
Wait, you're Elijah Knutsen? Elijah Knutsen Hezmum?

>>24997044
Never stop following up! There's a point where people are annoyed with your persistence (but this annoyance is permeated with a respect for your persistence). Then they kind of find it endearing. Then they realize you just won't ever fucking quick and they'll either have to kill you or give you a shot, if for no other reason than to get a moments peace in life.
Never. Stop. Following. Up.

I actually really like this anon. If I was a Japanese store owner, I'd buy some. I'm just gonna listen to this shit with the lights out.

>>24998640
For select few industries, including music, this anon is right.

Damn... this shit is pretty peaceful. nice

>>24997044
In case of still no replies after a few mails, here is he final try :

Hi mr toyota,

I still haven't heard from you about the proposal. Have you given up on making a deal together ?

Regards,
Anon

>>24997044
You need to send this to spas and masseuses and such.

>>24997321
It's just noise. Why even try to sell such garbage? If you want to be a musician then get gud. If you can't get gud then quit while you're still (hopefully) young.

Have you actually tried selling it to vending machines?

>>24997044
Just sent this to a friend a that owns a spa. If she get's back to me, I'll let you know her thoughts.

>>24998924
I mean, they obviously have a lot of money.

>>24997044
Nice album art, anon. You make it?

>>24997321
Is Brian Eno one of your inspirations?
Digging it dude. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNwYtllyt3Q

>>24999048
This. Very Enoesque

>>24998928
>>24997044
Spa chick says make Purple Wisteria 2 hours long (or a cohesive album along those lines) and she'd be down. More water and birds.
It's a niche market, but you can get a toe in the door while doing something you love.
I'm sure Enya passed out a few hand jobs on her way to the top of the massage-playlist.

>>24999161
>More water and birds
No dude. No. Anon is not making generic shit. It may sound like that to you. It's not spa music.
Fucking birds and water.

>>24999339
>>24997044
Then don't take my word for it. I can't tell art from a hole in the ground. I'm a heathen anon. You do you, brother. But you do you all the fucking way. Don't roll over just because someone didn't get back to you.

>>24998566
>hezmum

Not sure who that is, but I am Elijah Knutsen lol

>>24998640
Thanks anon, that's what my grandpa was telling me as well.

>>24998732
>>24998656
Thank you both :)

>>24998894
Post your music, friend :)

>>24998928
>>24999161
Wow thanks anon! If you're being serious, tell her to email me! memorycolorlabel@gmail.com


Thanks everyone for your advice and for listening, I was at the store for a while so I couldn't reply to everyone.

>>24999048
Thanks anon. I was actually more inspired by Hiroshi Yoshimura & Tetsu Inoue. I'm sure you've heard of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSWT58HilYc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grlYRK1aSus

sweet stuff. gonna buy the album once my credit card works again.

>>25000532
Aw thanks anon, I appreciate it.

>>24999460
You still in this thread, spa-anon?

>>24997044
One last point about following up: Nobody makes the sale on the first call/email/meeting. It's about establishing a relationship. Even low-level sales can take 5+ interactions. When you touch-base, remember that. You should always be closing, but you should always be building the relationship too. know when it's time to flirt, and know when it's time to fuck.

>>25000594
anon.....can i fuck you...

what kind of cucks actually pay for music these days?

>>25000624
.... Fuck it. Let's do this

>>25000594
Thank you anon, I just followed up with a bunch of people I hadn't gotten responses from. I appreciate your feedback. Also can you tell your spa-friend to email me? That sounds like a cool opportunity. My music is actually licensed to this Indian company for their meditation app lol.

>>24997044
make trap beats like a man https://clyp.it/user/ie3vnw5q

>>25000632
Quite a lot of people it seems.

>>25000701
I already sent her your email.
And: Nice (vis-a-vis the app)

You're very talented Norse!

Please keep making these threads, It's very interesting to see the process of someone carrying out the early stages of a business.

>>25000632
People who have more in their audio systems than you do BTC.

>>25000795
I just replied to her, thanks anon! This board is slowly becoming my favorite.

>>25000845
Takk (I'm only like 33% Norwegian lol)

>>25000880
Thank you for your support anon, I'll keep you updated :)

>>24997044
Japanon here.
What’s the name of the store?
Getting close to New Year’s so possible the guy managing it has taken early leave. Or maybe your quoted prices were too high.

>>25001161
"Tobira records." It's a pretty small store I think. My prices were pretty low actually. $130 for 50 CDs (and so on.) I'll email him again tomorrow.

>>25000996
Noice.
Yeah, this isn't a zero sum game. You do better, we do better.

>>24997321
>https://arouralrecords.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-vending-machines-1-2
i don't get it

Hire someone as an agent. You are ngmi unless you focus 100% on creative endeavors not this beancounting bullshit.

I landed my biggest client with absolutely no idea how to bid the project he wanted us to do. It was a proposed recurring thing, so I just told him, "Send it over, we'll do it. You don't like it? No pay. You like it? We'll work out the price."
We've been doing business for four years now.
Sometimes, you just need to acknowledge what you don't know (like pricing, in my case) and put together an initial deal that works.

>>25001589
What would an agent be doing for me?

>>25001538
What don't you get?

>>25001642
Smart way of thinking. I'm always worried when I send people my prices if it'll turn them off, but of course I've got to get paid for my work.

bump

OP, how much did you quote him?
I’ve done a little legwork for you
https://tobirarecords.com/
It looks like he sells cassettes at 780-1380 JPY.
If you consider he’s doing (minimum) 25% mark up on his wares you can assume he’s buying them for 585-1,000 jpy (at most, his markup is probably higher since he’s running a physical store)
Did you discuss shipping/who is responsible for shipping to Japan?
Shipping to Japan is expensive as fuck if you use air, and even freight shipping is usually on a “single box” basis where even the cost for a small box is probably around $100 or so. Let’s say you wanna sell 20 tapes and you choose freight shipping that’s already $5/tape of costs which you’ll need to eat out of yo profit or you’ll have to ask him to cover (which I doubt he would given the low purchase price of his goods already)

Just curious how much money you asked per tape.

>>25003621
He actually replied after I sent him a follow up email. He's going to take 6 of my tapes (3 of each release) to start off with. Which is what I expected. Hopefully this will be the start of a long business relationship!

Tapes are quoted at $3.08 each.

>>25003621
Shipping was $14.50 per order (flat rate intl,) but I'm going to put them all in one box so it'll just be one order.

>>25004163
Congratulations!
Where in the fuck did you find shipping that cheap?
Maybe since it’s a small order and the tapes are so light it wasn’t as bad I guess?

>>25004275
Thanks anon!

USPS small padded envelope seems to be a flat rate of $14.50 anywhere in the world. I sell a lot of tapes to the U.K, and it's usually around that price. The envelope costs only $1.69 as well.

Excited to have my music in a Japanese record store! It was one of my goals when I started this label a few months ago.

>>25004136
kek

>>25004819
we did it bros

im on shrooms and this music slaps

Post it well with good packaging. Japs like sincerity and quality.

After it arrived or after all copies are sold offer to set up a short video call to thanks them and ask for their feedback, futher steps etc.

>>24997321
I'm an actual musician and I'm gonna kick your ass if I ever see you.

>>25005445
Okay, post it then. As well as your sales.

>>25005074
Thanks anon

>>25005293
I will make sure to.

>>25005407
Okay, I'll make sure to check in with him :)

>>24997321
i expected this to be shit but its actually based

>>25005524
Thanks anon :) glad you like it

>>24997321
Some of it reminds me of one of my favorite albums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWebqCRw7o4

>>25005662
Haven't heard of this album before, liking how it sounds so far

>>25005074
I was thinking the exact same thing when I listened to it. Thanks for the confirm

>>24997321
nice brian eno wannabe. i like it
send me the FLAC pls so i can upload it to my private tracker pls

>>25005695
>>25005696
This was always the definite shroom music for me. You'll be talking to someone and suddenly a train or a mongolian throat singer flies over your head.

>>25005753
>brian eno wannabe

I don't listen to Eno

Buy the album and you'll get the .wavs

>>24997321
Pretty good Elijah!

>>25005861
>music for vending machines
yeah yeah
music's okay, good luck. i dont pay for music.

>>24997044
Dude, they don’t like your prices. Nuff said. Good tunes though. Put your music on traktrain and get zoomer money

>>25004136
Didn’t read this post before posting my first post

>>25005445
>actual musician
Musicians are söi as fuck. Whenever I meet some faggot who describes himself as a musician, or god forbid starts playing some shitty guitar at a party, I go out of my way to shit on them. Just really immature bullying for immature musician faggots desperately clinging onto your teenage delusions of rockstardom. I'll slap the back of your head, knock the drink out of your hand, even pick you up and place you in the corner for a timeout if I see you trying to impress a girl. I've done this multiple times and only once has one of you worms ever tried to talk back. I smashed the guys guitar and knocked out two of his teeth, he quicjly learnt his place.
You're not fooling anybody with this tough guy act you little faggot, grow up and face reality. You have no talent, you have no future, you should have learnt a real skill, you will never be famous.

>>24997044
Squeaky wheel gets the oil bro

>>24997044
tell them they can pay you in SFX. it's ecommerce anyway, might as well double down

>>25005891
Thanks anon!

>>25006022
lol, chekd

>>25006150
Based as fuck

Every "actual musician" I've met plays in some shittygeneric pop punk or stoner rock band and uses it to pick up underaged girls at the 20 person basement venue they play at. Reddit tier musicians making the same songs over and over wondering why they aren't getting any recognition.