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Not to mention you don't have to download and install a fucking scammy client to run your "DEX". Stakeshit devs claimed it can't be done in-browser, yet boltz and Exchange union are doing exactly that, lmao

Alright, you finally got me. Not going to let myself crash and burn with the rest of you nutters, selling my 7 nodes shortly. I see no prospects for future gains. Now, I've got to convert my xsn Slavenodes into XUD/Opendex and Boltz-Masternodes, how do I do this?

>>24950805
They aren't even close to working on ETH incorporation which XSN is set to soon release in the coming months. Weak fud.

>>24951508
>They aren't even close
Lying as usual. Hard to deal with the XSN discord shills!

>>24951901
Not a shill but I just didn't know. Seems like a decent project honestly, I'll check it out later.

Someone should ask them on discord. Should be interesting to see them scramble do discredit this as well.

>>24951508
What are you talking about? Opendex has been working with Connext way longer than Stakenet has.
There's a reason why Opendex is always fudded hard by seething Stakeshitters.

>>24953204
nah, the xsn community doesn't really start shit with other projects. if anything, shills from every other project invade the one xsn thread that's usually up and start attacking it.
boltz has been around for awhile. all the more to them. i see this as some truly legitimate competition on L2 that should heat up into next year and continue to prove xsn had the right idea all along.
it is much more a threat for on-chain atomic swap dexs and the 3-dozen uniswap clones that still exist

I just tried to use it.... WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT? ITS SO DIFFICULT TO USE!

INVOICE? I NEED TO WRITE INVOICES?

NOTHING IS WORKING YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING CLOWNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU THINK NORMIES WILL USE THIS COMPLICATED PIECE OF SHIT?!

>>24953559
OH NO NONONONONONO HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHJHAAHHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA FUDDERS BLOOOOOOWN THE FUUUUUCK OUT.

>>24953559
holy fuck. that looks like utter trash.
XSN is 100x better.

>>24953559
>YOU THINK NORMIES WILL USE THIS COMPLICATED PIECE OF SHIT?!
Should probably take a real close look at how many steps there are to complete a trade on the (downloadable) xsn """dex""" to complete a trade, lmao

>>24954589
It is muuuuuuuch easier.
Stakenets Wallet is also one of the most powerful LN Wallets and as a side quote it is the only LN LTC Wallet available today. Crazy stuff i would say.

>>24954684
>Litecoin wallet
>Crazy stuff!
lol. Nice development priorities.

>>24954589
I dont give a shit about comparing it with xsn. Show me an easy way to use the fucking BOLTS OPENDEX. WHAT THE FUCK IS A BLOODY INVOICE!?

WHERES THE ONE CLICK FUNCTIONALITY!? MAKE IT EASIER TO USE YOU IDIOT.

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT XSN HAS ONE CLICK FUNCTIONALITY COMING. IVE SEEN IT ALREADY.

STOP FUCKING ACTING LIKE YOU'VE BEATEN XSN AND THEN PRESENT SOMETHING THATS COMPLICATED AS FUCK TO USE.

>>24953204
No reason to fud that.
I mean, check pic and count 1 + 1

ITT:
>XSN shills find out that competition exist, and is ahead in development.

>>24955336
ANSWER MEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>24955336
Fud

>>24955573
lol he won't. here's all his seethe from the other XSN thread
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quite the wall

Ok let’s run this down.

Bolts is submarine swaps, nothing new. It is not Lightning swaps. What’s the difference:

>Submarine swaps are onchain to offchain swaps.
>Lightning swaps are offchain to offchain.

Why is this important? Well because you still have to wait for the onchain confirmation with submarine swaps, Lightning swaps are instant and can be repeated instantly. Submarine swaps can’t and are subject to onchain fees every swap Vs Lightning swaps which aren’t if you don’t go back onchain which there is no reason too.

OpenDEX is cli at the minute so don’t have a UI, go try it for yourself and you will see how far behind they are in comparison to XSN.

>>24956204
For Boltz you can confirm the issue by trying to swap BTC-LN for LTC-LN and it will spaz out as an invalid input as it can’t do it because it’s a submarine swap.

>>24953559
>NVOICE? I NEED TO WRITE INVOICES?
Yes, if you want an lightning invoice to send to, just like on the Stakenet cex. It would be wise to learn the basics of the lightning network before using it.

>>24956291
Actually users don’t need to fuck about with invoices and shit to do swaps on Stakenet DEX. Just click swap and done, everything else is automated for them.

>>24956291
With their simple swap ui it's just two clicks. Lmao.
Eat shit, pajeet.

>>24956410
>Just click swap and done,
Just forgot to mention that prior to that, you need to become a stakenet volunteer to join the closed beta. From the crumbles that are leaking, the swap function is very unreliable. That's why it wasn't released in 2019, and it's not being released in 2020.

>>24956666
checked for being retarded

>>24956716
based

>>24956716
Unreliable doesn't mean it never works. It's really rough dealing with these braindead shills.

Here you see that simpswap feature in action.
I’ve made some tests in early november with vortex the simpswap feature and binance orderbook.

https://streamable.com/t1m2za

>>24957676
>simpswap
kek
is there a linux email client called gnu/mail? it would be really funny to have simpswap and gnu/mail open next to each other lol

>>24957744
kek. had to check. there is
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNUMail

>>24950805
Here is the black pill that the thread starter isn't telling you, but also knows. Both Opendex and Stakenet are shit shows. Neither will have mass adoption.

>>24957352
Constant success on the first try, anon

>>24957825
digits dont lie

>>24957939
I wouldn't waste my time with either of these centralized node software piles of shit. I'll wait until the incumbents deploy their layer 2 solutions, which will be levels of magnitude better than this garbage. The irony will be when they find out the ones they deride consistently will be the same ones that destroy this illusion.

>>24958109
>t. block dev

>>24958561
Of course, I must be if I have an opinion that differs from yours.

PoSW scam. Literally no one gives a fuck about XSN or any other dex.

>>24958905
DEX is the only way forward for Burgers. Gov. Is about to try to strangle the industry. We should all be rooting for Dexes.

>>24950805
I told you to buy BLOCK instead you stupid fucking cunts

*spits

>>24958892
exactly
>>24959115
gross

I sad how blockeks have to resort to attempting to hijack other threads to try and remain relevant because nobody actually give a fuck about them

>>24959081
>wanting Americans to have nice things
Okay I am now officially rooting against this project.

>>24959953
there are only 2 types of people
real americans
japanese
everyone else is reddit, and therefore not people

>>24959929
it's kinda funny

Buy XSN, buy BLOCK, use Boltz, I don't fucking care.
If you don't believe in DEX's you're an absolute retard.
There is clearly room in the DEX market for more than one exchange that operates similarly. Coinbase existing doesn't mean Binance doesn't absolutely rake in trading volume in the CEX market.
USA looks like they are about to megacuck crypto and the rest of the world will likely follow, so the sooner we have one or more working DEXs that are more decentralized than some shitty pegged tokens, and can operate on L2, the better.
Stakenet's DEX is getting all the attention right now but they have goals much beyond just their DEX, don't forget.