/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24947280
1000 bsv bagholder from the 2017 days

need $400 bsv for me to break even still

yes i am down over 200k

this was real money invested and not paper profits

ive tried to mostly not think about it for the last 3 years so i dont want to kill myself

>>24947299

>2017 days

Forked coins from bcash? Did you go all in at ATH?

>>24947334
yeah my heavy losses are from buying bch mostly

i converted my bch to bsv but even lost there since bch is currently beating bsv

>>24947280
Hell yeah bsv ans taal stock

>>24947299
NONONONO THIS CANT BE REAL HAHAHHHAHA PEOPLE DONT ACTUALLY OWN THIS??? OH NONONONO I REFUSE TO BELIEVE

>>24947280
He's not satoshi you fucking hopium addicts

>>24947505
yeah at this point i dont think craig has access to any old coins

im just hoping he can come up with some kind of pump story like the whitepaper copyright in 2019 that made bsv go 4x in a week

then i can finally dump these heavy bags

>>24947487
even with my losses i have a networth of over 1 million at 31 years old

how about you?

>>24947591
Kek as unfortunate as this is, it should have been pretty obvious from the beginning Craig was a fraud

>>24947591
>at this point i dont think craig has access to any old coins
lmao
why do you think that is?

>>24947716
he wouldve already done something with them

its been 3 years, he offered no proof in his court case, came up with some new excuse as to why he cant access them, btc is past its old ATH while BSV has fallen below 0.01 ratio

theres no plausible reason as to why he would still be sitting on them

>>24947591
>>24947745

Yeah, idk what to tell you. there's a lot of crazy shit being built on BSV right now and none of it has anything to do with CSW or Calvin. I stopped paying attention to them month ago.

Bcash was brutal though, I got lucky and never had any besides my BTC forked coins. I know a lot of people that lost money or bought into BCH really high

>>24947932
Yeah problem is this market doesnt give a shit about real world use cases or real products. BTC will bubble up and then pop and leave a desolate wasteland in its wake. Whatever BSV does wont really matter, the price will crater. Everyone should be looking for their chance to sell into profits during this bull run.

>>24947932
>nothing has anything to do with craig or calvin
scrypt which is behind all the cool layer 0 stuff only exists because of calvin
craig has been harping for years about the scaling decisions being implemented
>>24947745
i think not wanting to give a bunch of coins to Ira is a valid reason not to move anything. This video makes me think he does have block 1 private key
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUTq7_vO3A&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Gavin9001

BSV miners now paid in fiat kek

>>24948090

>Everyone should be looking for their chance to sell into profits during this bull run.

Or they should be starting businesses and building apps so they can bring in as much passive income as possible. BSV makes this very easy to do

>>24948726

Don't get me wrong, I think Cal and Craig are great and I'm glad for the Genesis upgrade. But all the best stuff is happening outside the Coingeek bubble

>>24948807
Unironically this.
>200 BSV waiting to be dumped here because of that

>>24949775
I honestly don't know how they fucked up that bad. It's now an inefficient replicated data store. What's BSV even for now?

>>24949865
BSV is a collateral, only to be dumped by Calvin and Craig.
>https://apnews.com/press-release/pr-newswire/technology-business-craig-wright-corporate-news-products-and-services-35ab2959839d2e82c066b95fca6fcb25
I can't defend this shit anymore.

>>24949942
isnt this just another calvin to calvin handshake deal? dont see the big issue.
>>24949865
if you want to be an enterprise blockchain they want predictable pricing for renewable multiyear contracts. this was the end result of that path.
>datastore
its for attestations not storage. you have to save the rawtx anyway.

value as I see it
1. hashpower on attestations and scalable microtransactions
2. scrypt does create smart contracts, but instead of self executing the networks allows them to become user executable after a certain parameter becomes true. this is why it scales

>>24947280
LOL anons still fucking this absolute DOG, that has lost 98% of its value vs the KING? And at least one of those muppets paid up for a 4chan sub?!

>>24950277
Dubs confirmed my truth
WHO can look at Carny Calvin's corn and see hope
pic v much rel

>even with my losses i have a networth of over 1 million at 31 years old

>how about you?

>>24950436
imagine not buying right now

>>24947299
Fake and gay. Nobody who has 1000 BSV bought the literal top at $400.

Anyone who knows the value proposition of BSV and has been in this for years accumulated in the $50-80 range.

You know it's true.

>>24947468
So you didn't even time the market for a good BSV:BCH ratio while converting. Pretty brutal run.
I bet there's a plenty of people who bought BCH well over $1,000 and either sold at loss or are still in the red. You just don't hear from them.

>>24951201
it's going to 0

>>24947299
lmao imagine being this retarded
have you done any research on creg at all?
the guy is full of shit, tons of broken promises and flat out lies, he plagiarized scientific papers, this is all well documented
>inb4 hurr durr greggles
yeah go fuck yourselves you deluded bsvshitters

>>>>24947299

Accumulated between 70and 110 feel comfy
No need to rush

>>24949597
>they should be starting businesses and building apps so they can bring in as much passive income as possible. BSV makes this very easy to do
this is the absolute biggest BSV cope Ive ever seen. "oh yeah haha who cares about creg lying, its really all about the tech. just BUIDL and get rich that way."
like first of all why the fuck put money into this hyper speculative shitcoin then?
and second if I want to build a business why in the living fuck would I do it on BSV? an ecosystem filled with deluded autists and so tiny it might as well not exist. no self respecting entrepreneur would ever spend time on BSV unless hes getting paid off by Calvin. keep coping you deluded BSVshitters

>>24951777
Checked and yeah the reason bsv has tanked so much is because they ran out of new blood to scam until next bull.

>>24951934
Yeah it's a pretty big cope. It's just repeating what CSW always says. "Hur dur why don't you build some shit."
Way to scare off investors, idiot. If I wanted to be an entrepeneur I wouldn't be looking for things to invest in in the first place.

Bump

>>24951435

My DCA is something like $80, probably less than that

>>24951934
>>24952140

Do the sneedful sirs

>>24951934
>like first of all why the fuck put money into this hyper speculative shitcoin then?
the point of BSV (and actually bitcoin before they broke it) is it acts as a common stock for all the businesses built on it put together. so if someone outcompetes you then you can still win.

you do have a pretty toxic outlook desu. no interest in creating value just scalping new money. BTC is a better fit for you

>>24952717
>no interest in creating value
this is so unbelievably retarded I already have a business where I create value, except it has nothing to do with BSV. and according to you coping BSVcucks thats toxic that I expect a return on my investment? should abandon everything I do and build a new business on some shitcoin run by a lying australian? no thanks you can take that gamble yourself

>>24947624
1.7 million worth of LINK and I am 21.

>>24953083

>this is so unbelievably retarded I already have a business where I create value, except it has nothing to do with BSV.

Is it a BTC business?

>>24952113
turns out the total number of people on this planet that takes a proof ofnsatoy without a verifiable signature seriously is hard capped at 500

>>24953083
there you have it.
an expectation of adding value to the bitcoin economy is required to support its market cap is "unbelievably retarded".

>>24953400
ok so on one hand you say its like owning stock
but on the other hand Im supposed to add value?
sure and when you buy amazon shares you should work for free in bezos fulfillment center to "add value"
yes that logic is cope and retarded
the whole point of investing your capital in some shit is that you DONT have to put in work yourself

>>24953447
>sure and when you buy amazon shares you should work for free in bezos fulfillment center to "add value"
rekt lamo

>>24953447
>the whole point of investing your capital in some shit is that you DONT have to put in work yourself
true the whole point is letting your money work for you.

Can it moon already? I keep having to sell some bsv underpriced for weed. Pls pump my bags Creg

>>24953592
when will you guys learn what stiff actually means and why you are all stiffs?

>>24953447
it acts as a common stock for all bsv businesses
if you think they are all shit and will always be shit then dont invest.
if you think they are good or will become good, then do invest.

it becomes more interesting if you are trying to compete with an existing product in bsv and you notice their product is superior, and that likely will be unable to compete. but then they notice you, steal your ideas, and become better.
in the normal economy, you would have lost everything in that situation. but here if you have bsv then you win in the end.
essentially it incentivizes everyone to pool their ideas via capitalist forces. if you cant buy into that vision you are free to avoid. but calling it retarded is shortsighted.

>>24953628
there are no bsv businesses just like there are no ripple businesses.
the only business is to sell the worthless tokens to retards.

>>24953628
name one bsv business that actually makes money
the biggest one is twech and theyre doing like 1,000 tx a day and getting cents on each one. they cant be making more than $50 bucks a day
TAAL lost millions this year
centbee made less than 2k tx the last month, again only making cents on each transaction
where are all these famed bsv businesses?
BSV is a blip on the radar and nobody gives a shit about this "economy"
if you were a serious entrepreneur you would go into a big market where actual money is to be made, not play around with this bullshit
and if you were a serious investor you would expect a return on your investment, not talk dumb shit about adding value
no idea what faggots like you are trying to accomplis but it all sounds dumb and like massive cope to me

>>24947280
This shit is never going back on Binance isn't it?

>>24953691
>there are no bsv businesses

What is
>Twetch
>BitPing
>TDXP
>Peergame
>Matterpool
>21e8
>Windbell
>Planaria Corp
>castr.fm
>bit.sv
>Ark
>Baemail
>BitcoinFiles
>Memo.sv
>TonicPow

>>24953933
bullshit that's what it is

>>24953933
what is this schizo shit

>>24953976
dunno but i kekked at mcdonalds

>>24947299
Can I ask which wallet do you use to store your BSV?


Where/Which wallet do you use to store your BSV?
Which wallet or have you done any offline transactions?

>>24953933
But Anon...are people using those sites/apps?

>>24954080

I use most of them, especially Twetch and TDXP (made 2.5 BSV longing BTC on there last week).

Ark and Twetchdat are both very useful for archiving shit.

Everyone should be running a bitping node because it's free money.

>>24954304
>Everyone should be running a bitping node because it's free money.
Explain?

Also which wallet do you use to store your BSV?

>>24954304
Twetch is neat and works great - will admit and give credit and Handcash

you are no marines.
there are only one kind of marines and these are the LINK marines. you are hopeless brainlets holding a shitcoin lol

Why did they name it Twetch? Why a scammy name similar to existing website? For WHAT purpose?

>>24953779
defending this position has given me a new idea for bsv, so thanks.
centbee makes money off of selling giftcards in drug stores i believe.
but ill refer to this green text list >>24953933
and add streamanity, dimely, relayx and fabriik
not sure where that image is coming from though we dont draw crazy connections to the IMF and shit like XRP, we simply state this bsv economy is more efficient (due to less friction) than the paypal/stripe economy, and combined with self soverignty benefits and data ownership, and that this efficiency will lead to an organic growth.

>if you were a serious entrepreneur you would go into a big market where actual money is to be made, not play around with this bullshit
early movers would benefit in this situation.

>>24947932
>i invest in things i like instead of investing in things others like
now we know why you are so poor!
you will never make it and eventually be shoved into the camps.

>>24953933
Uhhh guys

>>24954386

Trezor + ElectrumSV

>>24954564

I invest in many things and have had a great year as far as returns go.

>>24953933
>>24954512
none of these "businesses" make any money

>>24954483

Tweet + Etch (as in etched into stone)

>>24954512
>centbee makes money off of selling giftcards in drug stores i believe.
no they sell BSV via giftcards and make moeny off the transactions they facilitate. in south africa you can pay your electricity bill with BSV and they take a cut. but if you look at bitcoinblocks they do less than 2k tx / month, nobody uses this shit
>bsv economy is more efficient (due to less friction) than the paypal/stripe economy
this is absolute nonsense because paypal has hundreds of mllions of users while BSV has less than 800k active wallets (and probably only a fraction of those wallets actually use BSV to pay for services). so again its TINY. to claim that its more efficient than paypal/established merchants beacuse hurr durr low fees is incredibly retarded. what is the network effect. I honestly cant comprehend how BSVtards can say shit like this with a straight face.
>self soverignty benefits and data ownership, and that this efficiency will lead to an organic growth
nice talking points but go ask norman mcnormie on the streets if he would rather use google for free or pay $9.99 per month so they dont harvest his data. the biggest problem with you BSVtards is you are an absolute fringe minority and project your worldview on the 99% of unwashed masses out there. you cant comprehend that most people couldnt care less about the things you care about and thats why BSV will ultimately fail

>>24954739
>>24953779
>>24954913
>thats why BSV will ultimately fail

If you really thought this was true, then your blog posts wouldn't be necessary

>>24954935
ok then keep coping while BTC goes straight to 100k

>>24954691
>i had a great year investing in bsv
ok

>>24954913
>>24954935

>go ask norman mcnormie on the streets

All normies care about is making money online. See pic related

>>24954971

Dumped LINK bag at $18, bought PLTR at $10, longed BTC basically the past 3 months. Life is good

>>24954632
i think they just slapped the sv logo on some (((jew))) conspiracy spergature.

>>24951435
It’s reverse psyop FUD. The Jews don’t want bsv to win

>>24951494
>>24951777

>>24953121
>anime posting glownigger shilling LINK
Imagine my shock

>>24953616
You aren’t convincing anyone greg

>>24954913

if micropayments, pow backed attestations, and additional smartcontracts powered by scrypt are cumulatively worthless then so is bsv.
paypal doesnt have any of those capabilities.

>>24954691
Do you make offline tx?

>>24955297
stay a stiff then

>>24955532

What do you mean?

>>24954386
>>Everyone should be running a bitping node because it's free money.

Look it up, Bitping.com

You basically get paid to help passively monitor sites for outages/downtime, it's a really neat concept. I run 5 bitping nodes across all my devices and servers and have made like $2.50 over the past few months. So not much, but still better than mining shitcoins and doesn't destroy your GPU

>>24955400

Micropayments alone open up so many new and novel business models that couldn't have existed before

I'm very excited by 21e8/Boost as well and I think PoW will catch on and add necessary context and weight to on-chain data. I know Twetch has started experimenting with this with their hashtag feature. Pretty soon we will see proof of work search engines

>>24955552
hurr durr stay a stiff
>$0.05 has been deposited into your account

300 bsv holder. im gonna rope soon too

>>24951201
I just bought more! I am a degenerate gambler?

>>24956060
Prove it you fake lying CCP nigger

>>24955832
Like have you made offline transactions on BSV? If so, what wallet did you use?

Bitping - $2.5 over 2 months and you need 24/7 electracy?

>>24953933
shit (besides twetch) I've literally heard of and shit no one outside of BSV schizos knows or cares about

>>24956050
are you saying i could get paid for doing what i love?

>>24956136
i have the rest on a paper wallet that im too lazy to get and provide proof for. fuck u tranny