/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24946628
Let's say, theoretically, I have around $6.5k in link. Should i split it up into graph or should I just throw a couple hundred I can spare in?

>>24946715
>>24946628
Let's say, theoretically, you're a stupid fucking shill pushing this shitcoin saying it's "the next LINK for sure guys buy now"

This coin quickly become /biz/ favorite wtf

>>24946738
There will never be a next Chainlink, you missed it.
You can buy The Graph now.

>>24946754
I wonder why

>>24946757
I have a fuckload of Chainlink. YOU missed it and YOU are going to miss the next leg upward.

Every good eth project, and every FUTURE eth project, will use the graph

>>24946772
Good for you!

>>24946738
this is beyond mere shillins retard

>>24946628

Because I haven't convinced myself

1. why Graph needs a token
2. Why does it need to be decentralized?
3. Why is this better than a centralized option.
4. Graph is a enterprise solution. What about competitors that come out? All one need is a better framework decentralized or centralized does it really matter?
5. Everyones using them just fine right now. adding a token doesn't give it value.

>>24946762
Why wouldn't another competitor come out and do what graph is doing now and not charge for the data?

checkmate.

>>24946912
network effect, look at the projects already using graph

>>24946912
Decentralization retard. This makes the protocol accessible to a tech literate mom and pop shop. This kills institutions but ironically makes Armstrong the Rockefeller of our time.

>>24946923

Except Graphs model doesn't rely on a network effect. Its a solution for enterprises and dapps vulnerable to competitors.

There is a huge difference when people say network effect for something like chainlink. Chainlink has the providers of data and then clients who need the data.

The graph is a solution for people to connect with data. There is no barrier to entry.

Change my mind.

>>24946898
You're still asking why crypto needs tokens? Holy fuck man ngmi

>>24946898
1. why Graph needs a token
pay for queries and share value

2. Why does it need to be decentralized?
3. Why is this better than a centralized option.
so that each project has a say

4. Graph is a enterprise solution. What about competitors that come out? All one need is a better framework decentralized or centralized does it really matter?
>_____ is an enterprise solution. What about competitors, other copy paste coins?
NETWORK EFFECT

5. Everyones using them just fine right now. adding a token doesn't give it value.
Now everyone can share in the value they provide


>Change my mind.
No.

>>24946932

Your not making a good case. Graph wants to decentralize and charge what they are already offering for free.

Whats to stop a competitor to offer what its doing now at no cost.

graph already crashes tens of dozens of times a day. A better model could easily take it over.

In the end, its the customer will always gravitate to better less expensive service.

Change my mind.

>>24946628
>day one
there's your problem
you're not "day one", you're buying ico bags days after all big exchanges have listed the shitcoin
this is the equivalent of buying link at $20

>>24946951


News flash. Theres a lot of projects that don't need tokens. Idiots are still investing in them.

Again, Graph services so many right now. Token not needed to make it work. Once they start charging people, other competitors will enter and offer the same service for free.

>>24946971
FUD. Keep filling your bags. Thank you for your service. I’m buying more tomorrow.

>>24946970

1, 2, 3 - didn't really answer the question

4. Netowork effect is irrelevant. They offer a service. Clients will go to anyone offering a better service with better uptime and no fees. Prove me wrong here.

5. still didn't answer my question.

all said. Its a nice pump and dump. Im even in for the ride but I say dump because its a 10 billion token supply. So fully diluted this baby already at 3 billion. and again, once better solutions come out this thing is dust.

>>24946983
I know that kek, day one on major exchanges, it's not supposed to be precise you autist

>>24946990
go enjoy bitcoin then

>>24946990
What are partnerships, relationships, and first mover advantage? You’re actually retarded and don’t understand the importance of human interaction because you’re a sorry

>>24947016
>>24947016
not fud. genuine concerns as I don't know if I want to hold on to something no one can explain why its a good idea to hold a 3 billion marketcap fully diluted token.

but "Network effects". What network effect are you talking about? clients connecting is irrelevant for graphs dominance. It isn't like Chainlink in which Data providers and data users are harmonious. One can't exist without the other. So Chainlink becomes the standard cause theres not option for other oracle services to enter.

>>24946738
/biz/ has changed you
now you see pajeet in every window

>>24947033

Your an idiot. Graph is dominant. We already established that. Why are you adding a token then?

yeah they have first mover advantage.Guess what though as of right now, talk to any project, graph crashes all the time and kinda sucks. On top of that they are gonna try and "decentralize" add a token and make people pay for thier shit.

This is tech. Theres no "network effect" that stops others from entering this space and offering a better solution. Even a centralized solution.

>>24947090
NEVER BUY SOMETHING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND because its likely bullshit.

People who invested in Enron back in the day learned this message the hard way.

>>24947127
yawning. just make a competitor then if the free money is there. guess what. no one will before we're rich bich.

>>24947177

Ok, so hold for about 6x than sell. thanks.

>>24947090
Because it has a 3% annual inflation which means we won’t hit 10B total supply for decades. Read their fucking website not just coinmarketcap or coin gecko.

seriously though. why am I the only one that cares graph has 10 billion token supply.

>>24947365
the best answer so far in this thread.

>>24947369
IT’S MINTED AT 3% ANNUALLY. It will take decades to go from 1B to 10B. Stop FUDing or do you actually not understand its tokenomics?

>>24947030
>>24947090
>>24947127
this FUD is super bullish. just bought more. see you when this is a top 10 token anon :)

>>24947380
But damn, they already at 1.2 billion circulating supply. thats a crap load and early investors tokens are released soon.

>>24947386
He’s probably just FUDing, getting sponges, and being retarded at the same time. Oh wait, that’s why we’re all here ;)

>>24947401
Lol getting spoonfed.

>>24947369
Its undervalued if we account for total supply. Do you want me to list you the names of projects with much higher fully diluted marketcap than Graph? It'll be a very ugly list filled with literally who shitcoins.

>>24947386
No, seriously though, answer his question about the network effect.

Graph is querying the database of historical data (which has already been happened) via code environment.

PARSIQ is not querying, it is performing transformations on live streams of events (that have not happened even yet) with automation triggers, user data and direct integrations with on- and off-chain apps, devices, web services. Also not just ETH, but blockchain agnostic and available for both coders and non-coders.

Not saying the Graph is a bad project by any means. Just that it doesn't really bring any new innovation to the space in my opinion. There's a million projects doing GraphQL based queries.....

Why isn't metamask displaying my GRT? Is there something I have to add?

>>24947473
They cant.

Look Graph is dominant. thats why we all bought a bag. But can it stay dominant? that is my question.

There is no network effect when it comes to Graph. Graph offers a supperior solution for enterprises. But even the service sucks at times. It crashes a lot. just ask any developer why their site doesn't always propagate data the way its supposed to. This leads me to believe there is an opening for a new service decentralized or centralized. like who cares. Only neets like us cause we can make a buck.

But if im running a company and pulling data what do i care? give me the best service at the cheapest rate.

>>24947483

This is exactly my opinnnion as well. except your high level big brain can explain way better than i can.

graph is the best solution right now. But that can change in a few months to a year. jmo.

>>24947483

By the way, shill me PARSIQ

I picked PRQ over GRT. They're both going to make everyone a shit ton of money. But as a developer who worked with graph and without it I think it's ceiling is lower than prq. I could be really wrong it's a 50x+. But if it is so is my choice so I opted out of GRT.

>>24947369
>seriously though. why am I the only one that cares graph has 10 billion token supply
>>24947615
>By the way, shill me PARSIQ

Ok so now I am even more bullish lmao

>>24947724
Yeah wtf they’ve exposed themselves as telegram pajeets that are pissed off about a real project getting recognition instead of their scam. You can tell their English is off

>>24947509
Have you added it as a custom token

>>24947746
Absolutely.
>Sure, keep shilling me something that may do something cool and better, someday, (a hypothetical) instead of the thing over 2 years old *actually* doing real shit right now

If you think PARSIQ overtakes The Graph you are wrong; it will be The Graph that eats PARSIQ.

>>24947818
I figured it was that but I don't know what the token address and token of precision are

>>24947823
Actually right now Bitfury is using parsiq to track down ransomware blackmailers for governments.

>>24947030
No such things as decentralized service without fees, Meaning any new network that'll come to "rival" The Graph will need to be centralized in order to offer what you're asking.

Centralized indexing=Regress in the whole goal of this space.

Also other networks will need to become as big as The Graph in order to rival them, I don't see that happening.

And network effect mean basically that, Assuming GRT is used by the whole space already then it's causing a network affect by definition.

Finally some actual discussion.
Something to consider is the supply is gonna 5x in 6 months with a sudden spike. That makes the Graph's marketcap $2 billion at current price $0.35.

>>24948176
>that makes thegraph current price 2 billion
Why the fuck are you talking about something that will happen in 6 months?
Literally who gives a shit, its been 3 days?

>>24948176
>akes the Graph's marketcap $2 billion at current price $0.35.
This graph is too hard to comprehend. Everything is fucking blue mannn!!!

I can't understand it!

>>24946628
>appeared out of nowhere
>sudden influx of shills
>technobabble ERC20 token
Go away, shills. I know exchanges paid you to shill this trash so they can dump their venture bags.

>>24948249
THERE are people in THIS board RIGHT NOW that think this board has the power to SHILL A COIN SO HARD TO ITSELF that it literally pumps BY 400 MILLION MARKET CAP with an amount of 1 BILLION USD IN BUY VOLUME

>>24948274
If that's right, then why are you even bothering shilling this trash here? You came from the fucking discord, didn't you?

>>24947978
Again, why does the network need to be big. All anyone has to do is offer a better service at no cost and people will gravitate towards that new service.

The "network effects" for graph is a meme. and no one on the customer side knows the app they are using uses Graph or needs to be loyal to graph.

>>24948176
Honest post. right here.

>>24948176
To be fair that doesn't hit until 5 months in. fuck that month though

Meanwhile the graph is hitting 0.4 cents right now. Stay mad poorfags.

>>24948274
It frustrates me too, anon...

Uniswap - the last time Coinbase & Binance listed a token together

3x'd then retraced the move within a month

Uniswap - the last time Coinbase & Binance listed a token together as it released

It went up 2.5x then retraced the whole move within a month

>>24948672
nobody uses that shit though

>>24947855
Token addy is
0xc944e90c64b2c07662a292be6244bdf05cda44a7

>>24946715
GRT is an established token at the end of the day, it's not going anywhere/getting rugged like a Pajeet shill. Not financial advice but getting a few thousand GRT at this price in my opinion is potentially a good move but DYOR.

>>24947483
if PARSIQ is so much better Graph will just steal what is good from it, learn how business works,
graph already trading on coinbase wtf does parsiq have

>>24950528
First movers advantage, GRT will have domination from here on the price shows this, competitors will get liquidated.

>>24950907
holding 1.5k grt rn, planning long term at least 1-2 years but hopefully more like 5-10. how high do you think it can go bro?

>>24946628
I did and I took the 2x from .13 to .26, looked super peaky lmao missed the 3x+

>>24951090
stable 2$ but it can even end up at 100$.

>>24951090
sorry bro I have no idea and won't pull out random numbers to try give you a hopium hit but so far this is looking incredibly bullish all things considered

why is Kraken completly fucked?
There doesn't seem to be shortage of orders or liquidity, yet GRT price is 10% higher than anywhere else.
any experts can weighed in on this?

>>24951253
based sensible poster ty
>>24951133
also based lol

I want some of that GRT but I feel like I've already been priced out. If I buy at 0.4, I feel like it's gonna dump back to 0.2. Convince me

>>24946628
Because I have no money.

>>24946898
why are you even here

>>24946628
mining fiat for glitch. shut up you're not allowed to do this

>>24951445
nigga this shit is 55 cents now

very natural, organic interest in this amazing gem... many people love it!

>>24951994
Yeah, I bought at 0.54. Time to get dumped on I guess. Is this a good thingy for the long term?

>>24951445
buy before $1

>>24946912
You could say that about any project literally ever.

>>24946762
Wow lol hello /r/HeDidTheMath department??? So epic

>>24952023
loser mentalities always lose

>>24952237
Indeed. So... $1 EOW. LETS FUCKING GO BOYS.

>>24948176
So months 5-12 will be your opportunity to buy.
New tokens stifling gains, then wait for a BTC correction and buy the capitulation.

>>24946754
Pajeets

My stop loss got set off at $0.50. Doubled my initial investment. If it tanks again I may consider re-upping but I dunno.

Cashed 10% of my stack, put that in futures and went 20x long with 1/4 of it, liquidation price is .31 and effectively quadruples my future gains on that 10%. Feeling pretty comfy.

too late to buy?

>>24953268
yes

>>24953268
It's still under .50, get on in m8

>>24953268
it's taken a pretty big dump, and seems to be crabbing atm, would be a good time to buy if any

>>24953312
>>24953358
thanks guys, but why did everyone say it was paid pajeets to shitpost this coin here? it seems legit easy money

>>24953411
Because FUD - and it has been realy volatile since its launch at 0.10.

Everytime there was a dip, fudder were telling you to sell. It's not the first and not the last so hold, make your investment back when you can, and sit or your grt for anytime between a month and two years.

>>24953561
thanks fren, lets watch it moon

Just a dip right, graphbros? $1 soon?

What is this pattern called?

>>24946628
>why didn’t you buy into a blatant pump and dump
You think i’m that stupid?Fuck you.

>>24953561
I was a bit worried but looking at the 2h chart there the candle isn't even red yet

>>24953850

Yeah i'm nolifing this chart since the launch on binance and it's baffling - it's the third time i tell myself "welp, we're going back to .2" - i was wrong every time and i hope i'm wrong now too. I'll make some more money and quit swinging like an idiot. Way too volatile imo.

>>24953647
it's called sell, then buy the -10% pullback

i just realized how clenched my jaw is

i'm on a guaranteed +15k why the fuck am I stressing

>>24946628
because not a single person was talking about it before it pumped? meanwhile, chainlink the build up was MONTHS and the discussion was not about moon or doom, it was 90% about the ttech

>>24946628
Coinbase also giving out free graph shekels right now for taking a few quizzes. Not much but every little bit helps said the old lady who pissed into the sea.

>>24954140
desu I did zero research, I literally randomly thought "hmm, i havent lost money on shitcoins in a while, let's check out biz" and I saw threads about this thing getting listed on Coinbase and Binance and thought there is no greener GO! sign than big corpo giving it approval

>>24954095
No, it's called three white soldiers.
Bullish af

Last chance to fill your bags under .50, we're about to take off to the moon frens, $1 by Friday.
>feels comfy

>>24946762
>>24946785
Gotta admit, thats one spicy fucking graph for... graph.

you guys are so stupid talking about the tech..who gives a shit. as long as its backed by coinbase and has potential to pump big to make me money then i will buy it

>>24954392
>you guys are SO stupid for talking about why this coin is actually worth something

>>24954392
You should try to understand why it's gonna blow up to see the real value of it, dont you think?
If you're here for profit, you're in the right place. If you're here for the tech, you're in the right place too. Because their conservative estimation of the value in a year is worth much more than your short term profit.

But yes, you can already make really good money and thats why we're here.

>>24954140

I'm so sick of this lie being trotted out as if it is established fact.

Plenty of people were aware of Graph. There's threads on here going back to October with people anticipating the launch.
Crypto twitter(not just the daily shills you might follow) was always giving Graph its due.
You visit the Twitter of Snx, Uniswap, Aave, Uma and you'd be bound to see it mentioned.
I'm so tired of people being asleep at the wheel and then waking up in a parade and blaming everyone but themselves for their ignorance.
Reddit is always late but biz, biz i thought was better than that.

Are you ready frens?

>>24954654
ALL ABOARD

i bought USD 2k at 0.544. i am financially ruined.

>>24954829
Watch the 15min/1hours chart if you cant handle to wait.
Or sell everything at a loss now and regret/be happy later. Your choice

>>24954534
I haven't been around this board for two years, but during the month that I've been active again this is the only project that really caught my attention, and was ready to buy at listing since 3 weeks ago..
How could some anons be here all day and miss it?

>>24946772

Stay at your ten dolaa curry eater.

>>24954893
>regret/be happy
so basically it's a 50:50? i'm so tempted to swing my stack to try to make the gains back

>>24954534
>Plenty of people were aware of Graph
nigger i've been lurking since at least 2015 and never heard on graph until yesterday when it was suddenly spammed everywhere

>>24954978

Sleeping at the wheel, or mired happily in pnk, statera and rlc threads.

Just like you said, people have been building steam for this for months but because they weren't being vigilant, "it came out of nowhere"?

Men with zero accountability....
You hate to see it.

>>24955103

Well then you're terrible at lurking.

Matter of fact, you're terrible at crypto too then.

>>24955059

It means I don't come from the future BUT you should make a decision according to actual data, NOT fear or emotions.

Looking at the 15min chart /1 hour chart make this choice REALLY easy anon. But i can't spoonfed you more than that because there is inherently a risk, as in every investment.

>>24955180
terrible at lurking
there were 0 graph threads before a few days ago
kill yourself

>>24946628
guys what would i be better buying the graph of xrp

>>24955211
yeah i see the bull flags thanks. i just wish i didn't buy near (extremely) short term top. anyway i got an initial stack at 0.363 so my average isn't too bad. it's just that if this does moon, every % of stack size right now really matters. and i plan to hodl or die with this.

>>24955248
do you even warosu you newfag faggot nigger? lurk moar and stfu, you're making a fool of yourself

>>24955500

He really is.

All because he can't admit he wasn't paying attention

>>24949539
Thanks buddy

>>24955248
I saw it about 20 days ago or more

>>24955500
>>24955785
circlejerking shills are a dead giveaway
kill yourselves

>>24955248
>there were 0 graph threads before a few days ago!!!

>>/biz/?ghost=yes&task=search&search_text=the%20graph&offset=1152>>24956203

>>24954534
then tell me the next big one, rn

>>24948176
The Graph is the Google of blockchain.
It is a future Multi-Trillion dollar project.
$10 EOY is fud.

thegraph.com/blog

>>24956321
>10$ EOY
Why do you have to lie?

>>24946628
Buy hold and shut the fuck up


https://mobile.twitter.com/ricburton/status/1340282581049208834

The autistic goat

Did I fuck up by only buying 2k?

i bought before the peak at around .40 but now it just feels like its floating .40 - .50.

what i s happening please somebody make an educated guess.

>>24946628
You're advertising it here which guarantees it's not worth jack shit

it seems like the hype just vanished from /biz/...

it's going back to .30c boys. hope you sold at .57

>>24946628
FREE MONEY?

>all these niggers staring at the chart 24/7 and obsessing over small time frames
go ahead and panic sell, go ahead and think you can psychically time the dip and the bottom of the dip. it's why you will always remain poor. literally all you have to do is buy, hold, and forget about it. $10billion MC doesn't happen overnight, and not in a straight upwards trend. just relax. if you've ever held something good long-term like LINK you should know this.

>>24951277
Anon, have you ever heard the term "arbitrage?" If so, why aren't you going out and making a killing?

>>24956287

I can't tell you what's gonna be big, but I can tell you to be on the lookout for Frax Finance, Bonafida and maybe Reef.

I do my research fren. Do you?

>>24946628
>because i don't like when venture capitals pee on my open mouth

>>24954140
You can wait months for the tech spoonfeeding threads or you can go find the tech info yourself and buy now.

>>24946628
THE BIGGEST kike organized marketing campaign on all social media to pump and dump on anons heAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAds