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NYC is cool to visit but I wouldnt live there unless I was rich or very handsome

>>24929471
Yes because these lockdowns will continue and the nightlife will continue to die off and move elsewhere. Moving to a state with a red governor or a governor who wont shut shit down would be the better move. Florida isn't shutting down so you could always move to Miami, but I think they are closing shit down in Miami due to them having a blue mayor.

>>24929546
I'm both of those things and would never move there.

New York was dying before the pandemic, its not that the business wasn't quite there it was that decades of neglect and poor maintenance to the city has left everything crumbling and at this point the cost to fix it all would be enormous. At this point your parasites eating away the beast heading to die, eat what you can for you'll need the strength to flee.

Looks like a Marxist shithole

>>24929471
>I'm looking at this as an opportunity to participate in 'building it back up'
I feel like going there now is like buying BTC for a long term HODL in feb 2018. i.e. That shit is still in active, freefall decline

Wait for the inflection point at least.

I'm personally looking for a place that I think will hit exponential growth and be a fun place to live: saigon, vietnam.

Costs are low, women are slim and plentiful, walking streets exist, manufacturing is moving in, etc

Also, if your net worth is under 8 digits, you're going to be as much of a "builder" in NYC as my carburetor is a motorcycle rider

>>24929471
I think everyone should live in NYC for at least 3-5 years but very few people should stay long term. It's not a good quality of life unless you're super wealthy, but it is a unique experience like no other and if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere, literally. I know a lot of people who moved to NYC excited to be there and couldn't hack it and left within a year or two. Everyone I know who has lived in NYC for a long period of time can figure out their life wherever they want. It's a good test of character.

>>24930017
>>24930047
>Now

What about in a year's time?

>>24929471
I'm from NYC, as a local it is severely overrated but transplants tend to have more drive and excel further in their careers than locals do. Where were you thinking of moving to? It's a big city and neighborhoods vary considerably

>>24930100
>if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere, literally.

I've heard this before, but what does "make it" mean in this sense? Like starting your own successful business or something? What's the difference between that and someone who just gets hired for a good paying (by nyc standards) job at a large company and lives out their day to day?

I am 40 , can I restart my life in NYC ?

>>24929471
going to nyc is retarded

go somewhere warmer/nicer

I live in Manhattan currently, stayed through pretty much the whole pandemic and have been here since I came for college 8 years ago. The "NYC is dead" thing is a lot of hype imho. Obviously it makes for an enticing news story for it to look like the whole city's going chimpmode or whatever but my experience actually being here and walking around has been absolutely nothing like what you see on the news. And keep in mind that everyone claimed exactly the same thing after 9/11, like "who could possibly work in an office here when you could get bombed at any moment, everyone's gonna leave the whole market's gonna crash" and in reality that didn't happen at all. Yes, people are leaving, obviously the pandemic has caused a huge amount of uncertainty and volatility in people's lives so this is to be expected. There's a few ways I see this turning out:

1. Lots of people leave and don't come back anytime soon. Lots of offices go fully remote permanently. The people who left are those with the greatest amount of mobility, ie rich yuppies without family or community connections. We potentially see a crime spike in certain (ie nonwhite) neighborhoods--keep in mind nyc is not a monolith, this is avoidable if you can afford it. Rents are cheap and opportunities abound for someone like you.

2. The people who left trickle back in post-pandemic, and by 2022 things have "returned to normal". I think a lot of landlords are banking on this. I've been looking for a new apartment myself lately and I've been seeing a lot of deals for one, two, even three or four months "free" on a yearlong lease--what this means is that a place with 2200 monthly rent figures out to like 1800 a month over the course of a year, but then if you were to renew your lease they could increase it based on the laws for a $2200 apartment, if that makes sense.

Nyc is the easiest pussy on Earth. I lived there for five years then got over it and moved to LA. I lived as a broke chef in both cities and LA is tough because you need a car and bitches want to see your car before they fuck. But in NYC girls think you’re cool and fuckable just because you live in the city.

>>24930206
To me it just means survive and live a "normal" life. Most transplants don't survive, it's a very different atmosphere and it's HARD, if you're not used to it you're likely to quit because ultimately your perspective tells you it's not worth it. But it can be.

I lived in Manhattan ~11 years grew up in NY on Long Island. I got tired of it eventually but I wouldn't have traded the experience for anything.

>>24930433
So they're hoping that by this time next year the market's bounced back basically. This is still a good opportunity to get a good deal on a place this year, you just have to be willing to rethink your plans if they're right and try to gauge you next year.

3. The news is right, everything spirals into chaos, it's like nyc in the 70s/80s. First of all, I think this is the least likely option. Secondly, a crime increase looks a lot different in a society where everyone has smartphones, forensics are more advanced, and there's a camera on every corner. You may argue that the NYPD will be defunded or something but I think that blm bullshit over the summer was a flash in the pan. But besides all that, even in a full escape from new york scenario, the best possible person to be able to deal with that is a young able bodied single man. If you were asking me if it's a good idea to come here as a 18 year old girl, I'd be more cautious, but what the hell. And, say what you will about nyc in the 70s and 80s, but it also held tremendous opportunities for young people, and those who weathered it then have been seeing the benefits in the last two decades.

So idk, I mean, you only live once. I plan on staying for as long as I can.

>>24930206
It means you survived a few years in a "high paying" job where all your money goes to rent and taxes without getting knock-out-game'd or stabbed by a crack head and then you can feel proud of yourself for doing something you saw in a movie.

Truth is NYC is a shithole and everyone with a brain and the means has already left

>>24930143
>What about in a year's time?
That's a maybe. Like a stock or crypto price, wait to see how far this thing can fall IMO. It's not even dead cat bouncing

It won't be based on a particular amount of time. It will require a qualatative analysis of the situation. It could be 1 year; it could be 10 if we repeat the 1970s

>>24930312
you faggots are romanticizing a rat infested shithole. pic related isn't just a meme.

>>24929471
It’s a shithole, I would look into Vegas instead.

I'm an Asian male and literally every other couple in Manhattan is White Male/Asian Female. I am not joking. Seriously. It's a very cucking experience.

I would blast my face open point blank with birdshot if I stayed there fore more than a week. Imagine a White guy seeing demoralizing White women/Black men couples all day long. It would make you go kookoo.

>>24930787
I grew up with a bunch of Asian guys, an ever-growing majority of them are getting married/engaged to their college sweethearts. My advice for you is to enroll in a cuny program or move to an Asian neighborhood. If you're Cantonese move to Flushing, if you're Fujianese move to Sunset Park, if you're Korean move to Fort Lee, NJ. You're much more likely to meet women of your ethnicity if you live in an ethnic neighborhood. There are many Asian women out there who refuse to racemix

>>24930787
>Imagine a White guy seeing demoralizing White women/Black men couples all day long

Good riddance desu

I love in nyc, it's expensive but the theater community is what makes it worth paying for the privilege to live here. Unfortunately that's all shut down though.

>>24930968
1. What's distinguishes Fujianese from other Chinese people? First time I saw someone mention them as a different group of people.

2. Is "Cantonese" specifically referring to Hong Kongers?

>>24929903
>>24929903
it’s actually the best time to come here to nyc. millions of dripping roasties need your protection in these dangereux times. Rents are plummeting. The only problem is feral people but these are betre than the roma at the very least

>>24931208
smoking, spitting, higher pitched screaming, more smoking

>>24931208
It's more linguistic/cultural differences rather than ethnic. They're all Han Chinese but there are subgroups within that. Fujianese are considered the niggers of China and they speak a very abrasive dialect. They're known for being illegal immigrants, low wage restaurant workers, and criminals. Cantonese aren't just Hong Kongers but a lot of the Cantonese here are from Hong Kong. Most Chinese immigrants here aren't native Mandarin speakers and prefer their own regional dialects

>>24930478
So if someone moves to nyc can they lock in there rent forever? is it worth buying property for like around 200k?

>>24931355
>>24931485
Well I'm Korean so I could never tell the difference. To us there are only 3 Chinese: Mandarin, Cantonese and Hong Kong/Taiwan.

Learn something new every day.

>>24931120
Kek

>>24930706
lol i take that train every morning that’s funny

>>24930478
See what California recently did. They decriminalized a ton of misdemeanors (e.g. disturbance of peace, resisting arrest, etc). New York City will soon do the same thing, and if you add decriminalization of a ton of "petty crimes" yo NYC's new law of getting rid of bail and releasing criminals back to the streets, crime will explode in NYC.

The "Broken Glass" theory was central to Giuliani and Koch's crime/policing reforms of the late 80's and 90's that made NYC into a safe and expensive metropolis. Basically the idea is that a city that lets all these tiny crimes happen (e.g. leave broken glasses, windows, and petty mugging to happen), leaves the "gate open" psychologically for more serious crimes to happen. Getting rid of the bail system and decriminalizing misdemeanors will be the antithesis of the successful Broken Glass police system.

We're going back to the grimy 70's NYC.

>>24931571
Hong Kongers tend to speak Cantonese, i think Taiwanese actually speak something close to what Fujianese speak. But that's besides the point, you'd be much better off finding a Korean gril in NJ

>>24931544
What do you mean "lock in"? The rent will increase every year (assuming the market allows it). According to the law, a rent-stabilized apartment can be increased by 1.5% each year (these are common) and there's no limit to increasing the rent on a non-stabilized apartment. But even with a rent-controlled apartment if you get one of those deals like I described, even though your rent for that year only worked out to 1800/month, the law considers the rent to be 2200/month, so it would be 1.5% of 2200, not 1800--that's how they get ya.

>>24929471
horrible fucking idea

>>24931746
Oh also:
> is it worth buying property for like around 200k?

Maybe? It depends on how the market goes based on the scenarios I described. I would assume eventually the market would bounce back. But what can you even really get here for 200k? Like a 1br in a co-op?

>>24931746
>He doesn't know
You can lock in your apartment rent with Trezor's new price lock feature. Ledger still doesn't have that feature.

>>24931719
People here absolutely REFUSE to give Giuliani an ounce of credit for anything he did for this city. Nevermind that we had the best two decades of improvement under Republican leadership. People will vote red again one day, but it might be 10-20 years down the line. We still aren't close to the 70s but it'll get there eventually

>>24931809
Buying is overpriced but it's still better than rent. I heard from several people that landlords already raised rent to pre-virus levels this month as soon as the vaccine news came out.

"Ok virus is gone now so pay up"

>>24929471
>Build Back Better
ngmi
Plus only the white people with money are leaving...you'll be oversaturated with niggers, shitskins and gooks. Do you really want that kind of life for yourself?

>>24931962
Well DeBlasio is very unpopular with everyone I know and talk to, so we'll see who's the mayor next time.

>>24929471
real jobs (white collar) weren't impacted by covid.

>>24929471
>yeah I’m making good money at a tech job now so I’d like to quadruple my living expenses for literally no reason please

The fuck dude, literally go find an outskirt town within driving distance of some place you can work and get some land on the cheap and build wealth.

Or you can pay 500,000 for a shitty little apartment and live paycheck to paycheck until an Indian replaces you for half your wages

>>24930206
> what does "make it" mean in this sense
the idea of """hacking it in NYC"""" is a cope retards use to make themselves feel good about how much they hate paying shekelberg property group $2000/month for a 400 square foot studio apartment and riding the subway with stinky niggers that blast music on speakerphone. it's no different than poor people in general thinking they're noble or tough for being poor, as if wallowing in pig shit is some admirable trait.

>>24929471
not at all anon. I live in Brooklyn and moved here in my mid 20s.
The city sucks right now, but the rebirth of night life that will come next year will be fucking wild. I am really hype for it.
It's a different energy in New York and some people hate it. But I personally really love it.

On the bright side there are loads of qt3.14 black chicks in nyc who would give my pasty sperglord ass a chance

>>24931963
I understand the obvious appeal of buying but there are still cases where renting is the better decision. Buying carries risk and requires a certain level of long-term commitment. You don't want to be forced into a position where you need to sell at a loss. If you're like OP and thinking of trying out a new city but not planning to commit to a place for 5+ years, it's usually a better bet to rent.

>>24932200
u cute?

>>24932200
You’re right anon that’s a lot to look forward to, such as aids, HIV, getting cheated on by her ex Tyrone that culturally can bond with her much more than you ever could, having mixed kids that are neither black nor white and have no cultural identity, destroying your heritage, oh and getting to go to the movie theater and hear loud talking the entire time

Sounds like a great idea

>>24930478
Why not buy a condo? I think the condo market is severely underpriced and would buy one if I was in your situation

>>24929471
>life
>ny
haahahhah

>>24930787
That sucks bro. That's why I'm never race mixing. I don't want to disturb the racial equilibrium. If everyone mixes into a chocolate soup there won't be any diversity.

>IT cuck
>wants to go to NYC
like clockwork
we need to genocide you faggots

>>24932296
Who the fuck goes to movie theaters anymore?

>>24929471
new york city is the dumbest place to live in the entire country. fuck, when will you people ever fucking learn?
also, you wont succeed in fixing anything. its totally fucked. just cancel that overall idea completely from your brain

>>24932405
This

I fucked a shy nerdy big titty black girl in highschool before I became a nazi, it’s a guilt I carry that my bros can never know about, feels bad man even though now I have a red pilled gf that I might marry I’m still tainted as a sinner

>>24932480
Nigga have you been since the virus?? That shits dirt cheap now and they’re way more lenient. You can go to rich people movie theaters and bring your own shit ect and practically have a room to yourself for whatever activities you and your date desire

Getting a blow job while eating a Pizza Hut stuffed crust pizza and watching shrek was an experience I’ll remember fondly for ages

>>24932318
Well, based on my personal situation, I think it's not really worth the liability. My husband is going to be graduating from law school in about a year, and we're planning on starting a family around that same time, so there are probably going to be significant changes in both our income and needs. If I knew we could choose a place that would suit us for the next 10 years right now, I'd go for it, but with this amount of volatility in the market, I don't think it's a good idea to commit to a place when we'll likely have to move again at some point in the future.

>>24932613
Getting an empty room for yourself is based, but at the same time I also want the Indian movie theater experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMKWPtJc18c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55EWHflRTZg

>>24932405
>"Diversity + proximity = war"
>"Racially homogenous nations are always better and peaceful and have cultural unity"
>"If everyone racemixes in america we'll all be the same in the country we all live in and that's bad"

Can't make this shit up

>>24932296
Americans don't have a cultural identity you might as well fuck each other. The rest of the world thinks you're all low IQ mutts, get over yourselves. You are english speaking brazil, just accept that redpill and move on.

>>24932806
Lol it’s a good point. At this point no one is purebred anyway aside from incest families so might as well go full chocolate.

>>24929546
Rich handsome dude here who grew up there.

Not worth it.

>>24931719

LA is overrun with homeless, violent criminals, many of whom are mentally diseased. They're fucking EVERYWHERE. At least in NYC the winter keeps 'em at bay. The busses were so filled with human scum I decided to walk everywhere but ended up getting physically attacked by crazy homeless people at least three occasions. I've seen them spit in random people's faces on the street. I've seen police raids downtown where they round 'em up for menacing metro riders.

The worst thing though, is how they squat in whatever little outdoor recreational space is available. Any public park is guaranteed to be overrun by homeless people sleeping or monopolizing park benches and tables all day, mean mugging anyone walking past.

Thinking back on my time in LA, it was like something out a dystopian action movie. It's not like the movies bros, it's fucking grim. There were some good times, but I'd happy never set foot within 250 miles of that shit hole ever again.

>>24932869
I remember being in LA taking acid and having the realization “holy shit it’s like a 3rd word shantytown what the fuck this is LA?”

>>24932836
Nah I ain’t black pilled anymore like you. I’m not a 56%er and I don’t intend on becoming one. I’m going to have 4+ white kids with my wife some day. I’m networking with my brothers and doing what I can to build a community to ride out this storm. European Americans in the US do have a cultural identity.

>>24933004
You will never be a woman

>>24932869
Great to hear that! What a time to be alive to witness the great american decline. The future is in Asia anyway.

>>24933026
Correct. I’m taking test actually

>>24929471
I live in NYC and my only question is why the fuck would you ever want to live in this liberal commy dog shit city that taxes you 40% of everything you make.

When Biden won there were literal parades in the street I wanted to neck myself these faggots are retarded. Move to Nashville or somewhere cool, NYC blows cock

>>24932982
The neighborhoods adjacent to the LA civic center are indistinguishable from Central America. That's no exaggeration.

>>24932869
Okay but what's the point of that pic?

>>24933106
You should take it only if you have low T levels. Too much and you just get cancer

>>24933179
pic unrelated

>>24933225
Yee I was at like fucking 250 bro

I’m at 1038 now, it’s AMAZING, I only need like 4 hours of sleep before my body just naturally wakes up. 10/10 would recommend

>>24933283
how much is it anyways? Don't think it would be too expensive.

>>24933317
City tax and state tax will fuck you hard, especially if you work remotely on a 1099

>>24930312
No anon you should be throwing the football with your kid and laughing at them learning fortnite dances. You do have kids, right?

>>24929471
>ctrl+f jews
>0 results
wtf

>>24934120
what do you mean you get 1 result

>>24934120
They should be returning from their upstate retreats.

>>24934454
*Southampton and Weschester

>>24934526
Disclaimer: I don't really count Weschester as "upstate"

>>24932869
>>24932146
where in nyc would you recommend to live to be in the heart of all the action?If I were to rent and stay for say 3yrs Astoria?

>>24932869
>At least in NYC the winter keeps 'em at bay
Lolno.
I’ve lived in cold weather cities almost my entire life and the cities go out of their way to make sure their pet homeless stick around in winter. Denver. Minneapolis. New York. Chicago. All of them.

>>24934710
What interests do you have?
I’m a music nerd so I live in bushwick. It has a cheap commute to the financial district where I work, and I’m walking distance from dozens of venues.

>>24935004
fashion to be honest. I like live shows, but fashion is my passion. I'm considering going to the local community colleges if i can't makeit for the art schools.

i am in my early 30s and i have lived in nyc my entire adult life, my entire network of successful people have all left and moved to florida. except for people who are forced to stay because of work, who are on the verge of killing themselves right now. nyc will eventually come back but this is going to be a long, dark winter and i strongly advise against moving there until it gets warmer, there is literally nothing to do, everything is closed, to even have a life there you need an existing social network to get invited to apartment parties

>>24933317
It’s like 200 a month for all supplies/ syringes, test, HGC and estrogen blocker from a doctor

The Midwest is the FVTVRE

COME TO OHIO, White Man

>>24935049
Somewhere in lower Manhattan probably. I lived in NYC and really enjoyed looking at peoples clothing while walking around everyday. Lots of cool little boutiques too. And I like that New Yorkers are more open minded to different and unique styles, like even wealthy people. So you won’t see your standard Gucci etc that you’ll see in wealthy areas of other major cities, people seem to take pride in their uniqueness here. There’s a certain open-mindedness that makes NYC what it is.
t. fashionable roastie, def not your average biz poster lel

>>24929471
Flee NYC, go the country. Get a 'work from home' job and live happy.

>>24929471
this idea is retarded.

>>24931305
>rents are plummeting

This is not the case in my city.

>>24932866
>Not worth it.

Why's that? I'm curious

>>24937155
not enough swimming pools

>>24932869
Aussie here, went to LA in 2016 during my trip to America. I thought "What the fuck?", I won't ever return. It's an overrated shit hole that's only popular because of Hollywood and everyone who hasn't travelled to America seems to get excited by the name "LA" for some odd reason. Example

>Me: Yeah I went to LA
>Them: Omg omg you went to LA?? No way that's so cool
Every, single, time.

>>24930706
yeah, its such a disgusting place. its only a thing because jews love living in that kind of dystopic multicultural hellhole and they have memed it for a century in hollywood films. the fantasy of living in a penthouse overlooking the peasants in a filthy sterile concrete city is a uniquely jewish trait. there's really nothing that is more antiwhite. Chinks, the jews of asia, live the same way.

>>24929471
NYC sucks balls.
Move somewhere like Boise or Kansas City if you must live in a city. Also, if you’re liberal please don’t move there. Consider jumping off a bridge instead.

>>24930787
>thinks Filipino is Asian
>also thinks he deserves sweet mainland Asian pussy.

>>24934710
Lower East Side, Astoria or Bushwick.

>>24930017
why would you move to a communist country you fuckwad

>>24929471
NYC is not very good, at least Manhattan anyhow. It will become a deathtrap within several months. Other boroughs are better, generally being further east is best. I would suggest restarting off the grid. Live in the woods with a 30-06 and a .22.

>>24937362
>thinks Filipino is Asian
what
>also thinks he deserves sweet mainland Asian pussy.
Unlike a lot of cringe r/Asianmasculinity cope tards that spam BBC porn in 4chan to "get back at the dirty White men that are taking our womanz!!", I'm not an ugly fishy-looking incel so I actually do pretty decently with women myself. I am confident enough to say that I am 9/10 in looks among Asian Men, and not in a gay "K-pop beautiful nu-male" way but in being unusually big and "masculine" for an Asian (also have a full beard).

ANYWAYS with that out of the way, what I'm just saying that WM/AF couples not a comfy thing to look at all day long everywhere you go.

>Mainland Asian pussy
I avoid Mainlander CCP Chinese like the plague. Not sure why you're saying that like it's a good thing.

>>24937362
Also I know my Asians; most of the AF/WM couples are almost always Chinese and Korean. Flips in NYC for some reason tend to stick to their own kind more than Chinese and Koreans.

>>24937672
>ANYWAYS with that out of the way, what I'm just saying that WM/AF couples not a comfy thing to look at all day long everywhere you go.
Sorry I had a stroke there. Meant to say:

ANYWAYS with that out of the way, what I'm just trying to say is that WM/AF couples are not a comfy thing to look at all day long everywhere you go as an Asian man.

>>24929471
Idk it seems like such a disgusting city to me with a shit quality of life

>>24937740
You sound like a faggot

>>24937905
can't you read? I said I am not gay!!

NYC is dead and will never recover from the 2nd lockdown.