/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24817388

OPTI :)

>should have bought sqqq

I’m not stressed about CLF

CLF is shit

>4/5 of my TSLA put position by Friday
Saving 1/5 for possible pajeet dip buying on TSLA next week.
These TSLA puts are my hedge against the unclowning of the market.

Hope you bought the dip on kliffs, cheers gentlemen

>Naz1 ID
HEIL VON BRAUN, HEIL MARSFURHER ELON

where are my FRSX chads?

>>24817425
>>24817424
The duality of man

Serious question:
There seems to be very broad consensus in /smg/ that the stimulus is not happening
I haven't seen a single poster argue that the stimulus is going to happen this week (just a few saying that it's possible)
Everyone in /smg/ says "Stimulus ain't happening"

If this is the case, that nobody here believes the stimulus is going to pass this week, then why are you still in the market / why are you not buying puts?

Why do you believe that the markets are going to rise when there will be no stimulus until January (minimum)?

Don't you think that we're going to see a dump when the stimulus fails and they go on recess?

I don't understand how /smg/ can unanimously agree "The stimulus isn't going to happen" but then no one is taking up short positions or reducing their risk
Pls explain

>futures

well the governments of the world are gonna destroy whatever was left of their economies again so prepare for the second crash i guess

INVEST IN CUNNY

>>24817388
>Please God Let the Trend Line Hold
GME's under the hourly MA200
that means institutions are accumulating, right..?

>>24817467
>words words words look at me I am so smart
Buy the GME dip

>>24817388
Wtf? Guys check out January 8th Intel 57 calls it’s legitimately fucking insane. I might buy in they must’ve made the chip that will beat amd or at least resolve their current chip issues, 60 a share end of year.

What’s a comfy hold through this upcoming crash?

>>24817467
Because this is the tenth or twelfth cycle of "market hypes stimulus -> market pumps -> no stimulus -> market dumps -> market hypes stimulus" since like, August

So what if we dip? I'm not holding any index funds and trying to time individual stocks using the wider market is a fool's errand.

>>24817467
Because the market is completely decoupled from the fundamentals at this point. Market exposure kid

>>24817467
I am holding puts, on SPY and buying on SNOW in the morning.

>>24817467
>See Federal Reserve

>>24817506
cash

Who the hell cares about futures? If you have stocks that are affected by futures you're doing it wrong.

>>24817467
>don't understand how /smg/ can unanimously agree "The stimulus isn't going to happen" but then no one is taking up short positions or reducing their risk
I’ve got S&P puts for Jan

>>24817506
PLTR

>>24817506
TSMC
>Taiwanese stock, less effected by NASDUMP or Stay&Poor or the Dump Jones eating shit
>it's TSMC
>they make all the good chips, the best chips, tremendous chips, nobody makes chips like Taiwan, absolutely incredible

>>24817506
Cash

>>24817508
This. You said it way better than I could but that's it exactly.
>Exactlyjbp

>>24817467
>If this is the case, that nobody here believes the stimulus is going to pass this week, then why are you still in the market / why are you not buying puts?
This is the most TINA rally in history. You have to stay in to get returns. And hope you get out when the music stops.

>>24817421
oh i did

>>24817508
If you see this cycle repeating (as I do) then why not buy puts to capitalize on it / hedge?
>>24817509
The market still cares if there isn't a stimulus for a whole extra month, as we saw today
>>24817502
>insecurity-projection-the-post.jpg

>>24817467
see
>>24817421
and i bought it this weekend too and got shit on, sold it this morning bc i can't day trade

i'm also in tech stocks and other stuff that can make it through a lockdown for another year if it has too but i might even pull back on some of them and just hold cash

funny thing is I think the stimulus is going to pass, but it isn't going to be enough and it will just keep the market around where it is right now

>>24817479
FUCK I ACTUALLY HAD SPY PUTS AND SOLD WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE JOE BIDEN won ec

I missed out on 1000%+ :(

FUCK JOE BIDEN, FUCK GLOBALISTS AND JANNIES

>>24817479
wat?

>>24817549
as soon as I notice a repeating cycle and try to arbitrage it the algos also notice it and bog me

buy good or discounted companies, hold them until they go up

>>24817549
So? We wait another month for stimulus, markets will dip for a day or two and then it crabs.

Once stimulus does pass, Golden Bull Run continues.

>>24816519
/pmg/ here, tell him to put a little in Barrick and a little in good junior minors. Tell him he could DCA in for a few weeks to a few months, but the PM bull run is assured so long as the inflation cometh.

>>24817536
This is the only correct answer

Behaves like a tech stock
Is an industrial power house and well established company
Future-proofed
Huge growth potential moving forward
Pays Dividend

> a perfect stock doesnt exi-

>>24817601
is there an ETF that literally just has a pile of steel ingots in a warehouse like gold or silver

or do I have to take physical delivery of the steel

>>24817543
As >>24817508 pointed out, we've already seen this cycle 10 times over the last few months
Don't you think we're going to see it repeat again?
Especially with SARS spiking nationwide + worldwide - lockdowns starting to increase across the world
Tesla S&P500 inclusion as well..
So many bear factors
>>24817516
So you believe that the Fed is going to come out Wednesday with more dovish news, eg. "We're increasing QE substantially!"
Based upon the previous minutes, where members expressed concern about buying more securities, it seems unlikely to me that they're going to announce more buying - the Fed doesn't want the dollar to collapse so will not make moves to speed that up
I think the Fed is instructing Congress not to pass stimulus until the dollar gets stronger
>>24817511
>>24817522
Good to see there are still some of you out there

I also just want everyone to know that I am the biggest Chad in here and I could heem you all. Also, chads hodl kliffs.

>>24817612
>China has invaded Taiwan

Perfect stock, huh?

>>24817660
New plant in Arizona mitigates this risk

>checkmate weeb

>>24817536
>>24817612
i like it but it seems priced in, i can't fuck with shit that expensive because if it dips it dips bad, and that's even with the potential apple ev coming up

>>24817660
china/taiwan/hk have been sharing profits for a while, they want that stuff preserved, just like they did with hk

>>24817660
That would be an act of war that would isolate them

What's the plan for this week? Sell off before the Friday deadline for the stimulus triggers the government shutdown?

>>24817643
The fed has their eye on any possible collapse. This is the safest time to invest....until 2024 when they raise interest rates OR if inflation goes heywire.....or War.

>>24817660
If China invades Taiwan either US hegemony is permanently broken (bad end, stocks go to zero) or we have WW3 (bad end, stocks go to zero)

In that respect, TSMC is no more vulnerable than any other stock.

>>24817660
China invading Taiwan would be an extinction-level mistake for China.

>>24817680
>the potential apple ev coming up
...
Apple vehicle?
Nah

Somebody shill me a spac with nice easy gains

>>24817705
I don't disagree with you that the markets are going to go up over the next several years.. I just think that in the next week a (short-run) dump is inevitable since the stimulus will fail

What are the arguments for and against the recent stock rebound being a in a bubble? I am anxious and want to know everyone else's thoughts. I'll start:

>record low interest rates = more buying with burrowed capital
>lots of new inexperienced investors

>>24817697
I still have a small PLTR position. Selling covered calls. Looking for a TQQQ entry before lockdown but I'd be happy holding cash too. Was chasing TSLA calls until yesterday, shifting to SPY and SNOW puts.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/steel-orders-jump-after-covid-19-slowdown-11607947200

is this the buy signal or sell signal?

>>24817728
PSTH
run by Bill Ackman
approved by Kevin O'Leary (Mr. Wonderful)
largest SPAC in the world
looking to merge with a larger company - Ackman believes that since they will be taking a smaller control of equity compared to full buy-out the company will be less price sensitive = get a really good deal
Big names, big money
Downside risk: Dumps to $20 if a deal isn't found in ~2 years

>>24817714
https://appleinsider.com/inside/apple-car

tsm is working on ev batteries, just rumors but really why wouldn't apple get into it?

>>24817760
Sell. I closed positions in CLF, X, and UUUU last Friday.

>>24817737
my thoughts are this market is a ping pong ball for hedge funds and the dips are all counterintuitive so fuck it, i don't know

>>24817674
True.

It's ain't perfect, but it's a pretty good stock.

>>24817711
Tbh, the perfect stock right now is RTX.

>Still way below highs
>War proof
>Dividend
>Benefits from stimulus aid (Airlines bailout)

>>24817728
PSTH

>>24817712
I'm just arguing it's not a perfect stock. China likely won't invade....but who knows what China's thinking?

>>24817757
>SNOW puts.
It was snow PUTS??? I thought it was calls??

70% stock market drop within the next 3 months.
10-2 yield is god's gift to man, the only reliable forward looking indicator we have.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10Y2Y/
yield curve inversion predicts crash in February at the latest.
Hail Hitler

>gme shitters go from smug to begging

kek

>>24817417
Soon.

>>24817794
I'm keeping an eye on RTX, looking to buy in 67-68
>>24817797
Lock up expires this week and the 24th, getting a preview of what will happen to PLTR.

>>24817809
Hopefully earlier, my SPY put expires in Jan...

>>24817421
This dude is literally a pedophile. Also he claims to be 27 but is clearly like 42

>>24817467
I don't know and I don't consider stimulus being likely or unlikely, in near term, as part of my trading research at all. Market is unlikely to respond to negative news along the lines of delays and negotiation problems unless/until government makes an unequivocal statement that the stimulus will not be done (they won't).

>>24817467
I have like 6k I was going to marketize but now maybe not. I just fear missing out on gains during the clown market, but I also fear getting dumped on. Many choices, most are bad.

>>24817828
Might open green, be a good day to buy some Feb puts to cover a Biden lockdown

>>24817809
Probably going to sound retarded, but doesn't high 10 year yields indicate money is moving from the bond market into other assets (likely stocks)?

>>24817794
kek you fucking nigger

>>24817809
I'm not a super expert on yield curves but doesn't that look like we've passed out of the danger zone, going by previous recessions and the curve?

>>24817794
I kinda want to buy back into RTX but I bought it in April sold it at break even in June after crabbing during the biggest bull run in human history.

Instagram is being sued for spying on people through webcams what are your thoughts on this

>>24817894
I don't even understand the context of that pic, they just had her streaming herself or something?

>>24817894
Priced in. Nobody gives a shit about privacy anymore even when it's that crazy

>>24817893
Too early for RTX but it is a great recovery stock imo. Like I said I'll open a long below 70, watching but aiming for a February or March entry

>>24817737

>TSLA could drop, triggering a chain reaction
>As more inexperienced investors come in, there's eventually gonna be fewer people to buy stocks and with no stimulus they'll have no money and will wanna cash out

>>24817600
where is the gold bottom? I am planning to put 5-10% of my net worth in gold after dump.

>>24817931
The real big brain play would have been to buy the election dip, who are the idiots who sold a defense stock when a warhawk was elected?

Attention CLF trannies: get your bags of shit away from me. I don't want your garbage, you should sell what you have while you still can. Oh, and enjoy having top ramen for dinner again.

>>24817894
Facebook has always been know to use user data for their nefarious deeds. Mark Zuckerberg is a garbage human being.

>>24817893
Pretty good dividend play. Safe and comfy play.

lines go down

>>24817926
It snapped a pic of her and somehow the algorithm fucked up and send the pic with the advertisement. Happened to a few people.
>>24817929
Cool

hey faggots, let's see if we can spell out a ticker symbol and see if it's investment worthy, I'll start

N

>>24817871
i'm actually a retard when it comes to bonds, however I think I still have the general situation pegged.
endless QE has caused about 30% inflation so far. not insane but unsustainable. when it starts to get really bad however, (and it will), the FED is left in a peculiar situation. Their only tool (printing), if continued will cause social unrest when the price of gallon of milk doubles. So... they return to QT (tightening) by raising interest rates to prevent that.
no more endless money means everyone that's overleveraged has no more easy money. then the various pyramid leverage schemes all start collapsing on each other and accelerating the fall. all that's needed to trigger all of this is a bad earnings call on something big like TSLA when its already overpriced by 10x.

>>24817883
look at the shaded regions. When it begins is when a crash happened. first it inverts, and then finally makes it back to zero. if you measure the time between 0 and the next crash it tends to be 2-8 months from there.

>>24817931
>recovery stock
Lol Joe Bomb ‘Em is gonna pump that shit so hard

>>24817894
My thoughts?

>>24817963
I had pork pie for dinner
And will have it again tomorrow

>>24817998
I

>>24817959
I don't think it will moon until 2022, best aim for entry Q1 2021 if we're lucky it will go to low 60s high 50s. They are being sued right now for some insider trading bullshit or something but Biden's Defense Secretary was a board member so idk, overall I'm bullish long term and will probably start selling puts on it in a month.

>>24817977
just remember to check instagram whenever you take a shit, imagine how disgusting people they have to watch do disgusting things lol

I might actually go back into Kratos, if they do well in the Skyborg competition they'll probably get snapped up by LMT or NOC

>>24818040
i was looking at them today, they look ok

>>24818013


>>24817977
>Happened to a few people.
Interesting if real
But I’m sure Kim and Kanye would be at the White House right now If this were legit

>>24818013
G

My paycheck comes in today, looking forward to buying more IGV!

>>24817999
I agree with 95% of what you said.

We'll see inflation coming up mid to late 2021. The velocity of money is still slow as fuck. Once vaccine reach masses, money exchanging hands will increase rapidly.

We have 2 spending measures:
Stimulus bill
Infrastructure spending bill

Likely both will be passed before Feb.

Both will increase inflation even more.

Buy $LAND anon, god ain't making more of it.

>>24818117
>We'll see inflation coming up mid to late 2021. The velocity of money is still slow as fuck. Once vaccine reach masses, money exchanging hands will increase rapidly.
QE since the 00's has only caused money velocity to decrease. Only one of the main reason the QE must be made longer and more dramatic every time.

I’m worried, UTZbros. I’m seeing these Herr chips all over the place right now. And the ones I had were good...

You know what's funny anon's?

Whores in my area are getting cheap. Tons of supply of sluts, but sugar daddy's are staying the same.

When the supple of sluts go down, I'll worry about inflation

>>24817467
The stimulus being unlikely is already priced in. Im so tired of hearing about it. We dont even need one. For fucks sake people are blowing $1000+ on PS5s and xboxes on ebay and every nvidia GPU is sold out am i supposed to think anyone is facing difficult times right now? Almost everyone was worse off during the height of Obama years than during the "pandemic recession" of Trump years.

>>24818135
are you trying to help them? why the fuck would you be giving them a good review? You fucking stand by that chip aisle and tell everyone buying them that they need to get utz instead

It’s not stimulus when you force people to close their business and not go to work but send them a check

This is relief, and you should be very aware that the Congress you elected does not want you to get any relief because politics is more important

>>24818065
G

>>24818174
There was no utz there. I’m concerned about this rival I’ve never seen.

>>24818176
it's not congress, the senate, or the president, or the sc

it's all of them

>>24818117
>The velocity of money is still slow as fuck.
Buy M2V

>>24818180
R

>The 2020 capital expenditure forecast currently includes expected outlays of$11to$15 millionassociated with the production of 12 Valkyrie aircraft prior to receipt of expected customer award(s); therefore, these aircraft are currently reflected as Company-owned assets until receipt of the related customer award(s). Kratos will adjust these initial forecasted capital expenditure outlays and the ultimate balance sheet classification of these investments once expected customer orders and the nature of the contract terms can be determined.

Imagine not investing in a company with an entire squadron of advance unmanned stealth fighters

>>24818176
Millions of niggers just voted for the pedo who is owned by the chinks that unleashed this pandemic psyop to begin with. They get what they fucking deserve.

>>24818260
cope

>>24818193
I'm invested in F and my neighbor drives a chevy. Every time he talks to me I try to make the conversation circle back to F. I do this with every stock I own. He can either buy a new car or stop talking to me, his call.

just realized theres no reason to sell

I put $8 in OPTI am i going to make it

>>24818284
F was the first stock I ever bought. It was at $12.

>>24818295
I want to put 1000 dollars into OPTI and just fucking ride it. All I buy are memes anyway.

>>24818277
Who built the cages?

>>24818293
lol peak clown world just gotta ride it out

>>24818306
All of my smart buys are growing at a healthy rate, but none match the 100% gains I got off GME.

>>24818323
Gotta have someplace to keep the catgirls

>>24818306
I did it and you should too. Wait for it to dip to 0.04 again.

>>24818284
That’s fun but goddamn it means the stocks you own really do own you

>>24818299
F makes great cars and they are an american institution. Henry Ford was a damn good man too, does anyone even know who Chevy was? Chevy Chase? He is some pinko comedian. Guess which of those won the cold war? Well it wasn't a goddamned pinko comedian so I guess the answer is pretty easy to figure out. Anyway, why did you sell anon? You know the rust belt is hurting and we all know Chevy can't do shit about it but F certainly can. You see anon, if F does well, we all do well. This is because Ford is basically the embodiment of the USA. Who would ever sell the embodiment of the USA? Why did you sell anon?

>>24818352
A good stock is like a good wife, you have to take care of them and make sure everybody knows how proud you are to own them. You also never sell them.

>>24818363
Because for three years it just kept going down.

>>24818363
Chevy and Ford suck. Toyota trucks are for chads

>>24818363
>Ford
>Quality
Save the extra 2-3K for a Toyota or VW

>>24818337
how long are you holding? til the nasdaq listing?

>>24818375
>>24818380
>>24818385

yeah i'm actually fucking around, F and GM are awful stocks. GM is worse than F though.

im fuckin done if gme doesnt do something im gonna put my remaining chips all in on something calls or puts for my last ditch effort

cant watch this anymore

>>24818385
Psh, you losers will never be as cool as a SOLO chad.

>>24818374
Nope get out

>>24818421
NIKOLA BITCH

Does /smg/ buy new or used vehicles?

>There will be a preemptive explaining away of bad Q4 earnings before they are made public, as well as a damage control briefing after earnings are released

see you at $6 ;o)

>>24818284
Same, I literally make every single conversation I have these days circle back to Uranium somehow or another.

>>24818433
Reminds me..

HYLN is a fantastic price point. Not larping.

Also, wtf is NKLA doing? They're just going to create a Hydrogen semi with no way to fuel it?

hey smg

now that RH is being a bitch what do i replace my BEP and FRT positions with

i have $400 in BEP and $360 in FRT

i want divvies

>>24818441
Yeah sometimes

>>24818441
I'm a cheap fuck. Buy a 5 year old pre-owned car. Keep it for 10+ years.

Cars are toasters to me. They're meant to be a utitlity not an accessory.

Fuck Star Wars Toasters.

>>24818337
>>24818328
So OPTI is a gme memestock but on steroids?

>4 dollars for Nasdaq listing
>100x 'guaranteed'

>>24818463
I meant as primary means of transportation, but yeah I' know people that turn a quick buck doing that. Good on you.

>>24818462
NKLA was supposed to be bought by GM but GM backed out so it's just hanging out there now with no direction. I'm actually alarmed such an obvious farce wasn't called out by anybody and was given so much publicity. I might look at HYLN but right now I'm just into LIDAR and kind of sticking with that.

>>24818464
Kellogg, RTX is decent.

TIL there are people who held during earnings. And then held after earnings when they announced stock dilution when the only real appeal was the short squeeze play.
Its going to single digits next. By February it will be $6 a share where it will crab until it inevitably goes the way of blockbuster. GME way too incompetent to save their company. Otherwise they wouldnt be in this predicament to begin with, not like the rise in digital gaming took people by surprise suddenly in 2020.

>>24818446
If Sherman is even slightly competent and has any plan at all, ICR and the Holiday Report will focus on "le grande pivotté"

If Sherman continues to be Sherman we better hope Cohen steps up soon. Sherman delenda est.

>>24817735
>I just think that in the next week a (short-run) dump is inevitable since the stimulus will fail
If it's only gonna dump for a week or so is it really worth gambling on puts or selling out of positions

>>24818457
how do you even do that?

>you know what would make this copy machine run faster? uranium.

>>24818441
Just bought 2013 Tacoma, pretty dope

>>24817619
Yes, I don't remember off hand but like Perth in Austrailia does. Honestly, you are better off in big miners that have tons of cash already, the PM bull market will be through the next 5ish years.

>>24818464
>I want divvies
>less than $1k
Yolo calls on something

>>24818492
Not bad. LIDAR should be a good long term play.

Trevor Milton fucked NKLA so badly. Don't think it will ever recover.

>>24818507

im fucking an inch away from tapping out

maybe i try some stupid as fuck move tomorrow

so i can recover and then put back in gme

but bolster my position a little

good fight it was nice knowing u

sherman got the best of me in the end

he killed gme. a offering during the release of new consoles once in a decade

>>24818506
>ditch shareholders
>abuse employees
>rip off customers
what is not to like about these guys?

>>24818537
Thank you for your sacrifice kpopfren, we both know the moment you sell the Bogs will smile upon GME

>>24818523
What was the mileage and what did you give?

Been wanting a used truck for my next purchase.

>>24818537
Make sure to lock in your losses

You don’t have to kill yourself but you do have to leave

>>24818441
corolla. if you drive a lot . Used.

>>24818537
would it be that bad just to sell some and reinvest? i usually leave half or a quarter in when i get burned, depending on how bad it was.

>>24818506
the next random ass news that pumps the stock 30% will make for delightful shitposting and very smug coom cats
>muh dilution
It's less than 10% at the current price, and if they wanted to use it immediately they'd have done so.

>>24817951
Anytime from now till Spring, in all likelihood. Gold and silver work on longer time frames than most stuff; take a look at the charts set to weeks or months or years and tell me it doesn't look attractive. We KNOW that funny money is going to come over the next few years. If there is a market drop, PMs will do well (at least relatively, if they go down at all). Our society is just utterly fucked and there is no way out that doesn't end with PMs going up.

DCA till February if you want to be smart. Dump it into GOLD 2023 leaps now and look for good silver miners soon if you are stupid like me.

>>24818603
>We KNOW that funny money is going to come over the next few years.
What if it doesn't?

>>24818537
Why are you so invested in gamestop? Thousands of other shit stocks to fuck around with. I'm going to hit uuuu for one last play and find something else.

>>24818626
my plan was to exit around black friday but i didnt follow the plan i got greedy

i was going for short squeeze moon type shit i was being stupid

it was a good play for when i got in at 7.50 and rode it up but i squandered it

>>24818603
Golden rule on Gold & Silver

When they do rise up exponentially is the moment you would rather have gun and ammo.

Buy Bitcoin instead, the asset the new generation is going to hold instead of gold & silver.

Or buy Freeze Dried foods
1) Last 25+ years
2) Actual has a use
3) Rises with inflation

>>24818559
24.3k 96k miles on it. It's hard to find good deals on Toyota trucks. One owner too, clean.

>>24818620
Invest in lead.

http://gains.dob.jp

>>24818441
First car I ever bought with savings back in high school in 2004 was a used 2002 Honda Civic that I kept for 15 years

>>24818603
could you recommend some good gold and silver for us mr guy from the future?

>>24818644
i have already started downloading terabytes of porn. imagine how valuable it will be when they zero out everything. think about it.

>>24818537
better to lose 30% than lose 60%.

There is always tomorrow and there are always other opportunities. Being a good investor is about knowing when to take profits when you can and when to cut losses when you have to. Look at the date on this post some anon made and look at the date now.

>>24818647
Sounds like a winner. With regular preventive maintenance, you gave 24.3K for 200k more miles out of it.

>>24818644
Miners are a leveraged play on the assets themselves. Assets and commodities are going to do well over the next few years. PMs are a safe haven when shit goes down in countries; you can benefit when this is not your particular country.

I agree with you and understand your perspective, but I don't see a sudden shitshow in America so much as a continued downward trend for some time.

>>24818689
no man i dont think that person is right or you are right

its not the stock its the fucking management

gme is good buy at this cheap price its just didnt work out with the bad management and short interest its just a bad formula

were working uphill battle

>>24818566
This. They are everywhere.

I have only ever bought cars around the 3-4 year old mark. Why pay for depreciation?

>>24818696
Thanks anon. It's my dream truck, never selling.

>>24818293
Not until unless the dollar rallies for some reason. Equities should continue to rise as dollar stays weak.

Prepare for a blood red day.
Sell everything

stocks have made me realize every single fucking company is losing money. why? what the hell is even their function. why do they keep spending billions and getting nothing?

>>24818441
Used always. My car is 17 years old.

wish i bought cop instead of xom for the pure oil play. cant really switch it up either since xom is shitting the bed these past couple days

>>24818732
fuck stocks stocks are garbage. im just gonna get a life and put money in etfs and forget it

>>24818736
ZIRP creates more zombies the longer and deeper QE becomes.

>>24818689
Why did you take a screencap of a retard with no argument?
>look at the post date
>October 27
>closing price $12.60
Since he made that post it dumped to $10, then spiked to $20, then went to where it started. Hardly "going to zero".

>>24818681
Generally speaking, the top gold miners aren't secret and are basically the Walmart of gold. They will do well and can weather storms. Other than that, trust autists to pick for you. /pmg/ is unironically the best general and I highly recommend you lurk there, but don't ask them to spoon feed you too much. Just trust the quarterly PAN MAN recommendations because that guy walks the walk.

I'm super bullish on silver and am looking to put some money on silver miners probably at the end of the year.

>>24818746
XOM stubbornly refuses to suspend or curtail their dividend. They have even taken loans to pay it and are dragging their heels not to write down assets.
Unironically, XOM WOULD be the play if you wanted to meme with oil if they temporarily dropped that stupid dividend for a few quarters. It was one of the best things DIS did, for example.

>>24818736
Overwhelming majority of businesses lose money. A company can stay in business and even grow without turning a profit. Market is primarily driven by the growth of the companies that do turn profitable and continue to increase profitability year over year.

>>24818441
New. Previous car owned for 15 years. Current car owned for 8 years

>>24818794
is amazons net income so low because he just uses all the money to put back into amazon to grow the company instead of paying taxes? and he just takes a few billion each year for himself?

>>24818790
>Unironically, XOM WOULD be the play if you wanted to meme with oil if they temporarily dropped that stupid dividend for a few quarters
It would be the play after the reaction drop to that news, anyway.

>>24818775
appreciate the info

>>24818681
>could you recommend some good gold and silver for us mr guy from the future?
This guy retired in his 30s around 2008 on silver and gold juniors. He disappeared until recently and is very open with his positions and plays. His lists are VERY good but do understand that the small and midcap miner game is not for the feint of heart.
https://www.goldventures.org/

>>24818644
>Or buy Freeze Dried foods
Motor Oil, Diapers, Batteries, Copper sheet metal, Brake fluid, etc.
I.e. items to buy if we ever get timed fed coin

>>24818807
It's more complicated than that but basically yes. Revenue goes in to growing the business further.

>>24818775
JP Morgan has been manipulating the price of silver futures since the last crash in 2008 and amassed the largest fucking pile of silver in history. They had to pay a billion dollar fine recently for this manipulation.

The historic ratio of silver to gold is far from where we are now, and $35-$50 silver next year or two is very reasonable to expect.

I invest in PMs for the same reason I invest in TQQQ: I have no faith left in society.

>>24818576
Dilution is a big deal when the short interest is > 100%.
I still cant think of any reason for GameStop to exist in 2020. If they were smart they would have rebranded into a general "geek" store loaded with all the shit soiboys love. Baby Yoda figurines, funko pops, a mini fridge filled with Soilent drinks, and wacky zany stuff like props youd see in The IT Crowd (like thinkgeek which GameStop owns, sell Rick and Morty tshirts and plushes. Make it the B&M version of reddit. But GME is too stupid to do anything like that so they clung to a dying business model where disc games are now no longer anything more than a physical software license key.

>>24818306
I was so hyped on OPTI bc of the deal/Dr Drew/iWand and Rover are cool, etc

But the CEO is a con artist and he's broke at like age 60. Had only worked for failed companies, only other employees are his equally dumb brother who had zero experience before he took the position he's in now and some marketer on Twitter but even she doesn't work there now and when I messaged her to ask about OPTI she said Roger's a thief. General & admin expenses shows that along with his shell companies.

I even saw an old blog from like 10 years ago where some person said out of the blue "I'm tired of people calling Roger pawson broke. He isn't, blah blah blah" and I'm like 90% sure it was him bc there was like nobody replying or talking about him before that... But he is broke, still, to this day. Unless he can keep dumping opti to pull himself out of his trailer

>>24818830
Oh yeah, this guy is right; there are some wild fuckin swings on junior miners. Trust autists to find good companies with good land and good management, then hold on tight because it will get ugly.

>>24818760
nice reading comprehension bud, three months from 10/27/2020. Everyone who wasn't dumb enough to buy into this Pajeet pump and dump realizes it's going to be worthless after Sherman fails to turn around the -$.5 profit per share they're booking now

>>24818819
You're welcome, fren.

>>24818860
wow wtf lol

>>24818846
then are you long on calls or shares?and when to unload specifically if it hits that target price

>Warren Buffet, who isn’t as rich as Bezos, once petitioned congress to raise his taxes, because as he said, his secretary pays more in taxes than he does.

is this true?

>>24818760
>”guys this time bomb is ticking and will explode in five minutes”
>“idiot i am kicking it now, it’s already been four minutes and nothing has happened!”

whats the opposite of paper hands, but when you don’t know how to gracefully drop a pump and dump and it always blows up in your face

>>24818860
the contracts opti have been getting are basically bunk? what is legitimate

>>24818859
>dilution
If Gamestop diluted at the full $100M (which they specifically said they didn't need to) it would still be the most shorted stock on the market by far, institutional ownership would still be over 100%, and short interest would be in the high 90s.

>If they were smart they would have rebranded into a general "geek" store loaded with all the shit soiboys love. Baby Yoda figurines, funko pops, a mini fridge filled with Soilent drinks, and wacky zany stuff like props youd see in The IT Crowd (like thinkgeek which GameStop owns, sell Rick and Morty tshirts and plushes. Make it the B&M version of reddit.
Have you been inside a Gamestop in the last year? That's exactly what they've done. They also sell shit like TVs and PC parts now.

>>24818904
Does he even have a salary?
Isn't his wealth growth just Berkshire Hathaway increasing in value?

>>24818736
the stock market is an arm of the financial system, and any financial system is subject to regimes. we live in a fiat money pseudo-capitalist society. amazon, tesla, beyond meat, these are case studies in the new capitalism, where various sources of financing are readily available for new and innovative businesses.this is an oversimplification and i'll give you another oversimplification, fidelity, blackrock, vanguard, state street, and the various other large asset managers are essentially the unelected bureau of finance. if they want an industry to succeed, they will insure its financial success, and if that involves inflating its stock price to use as a source of capital, that is not out of the question. really though savvy people that understand the regime we live in bid up the price of these chosen companies because they can spot they really easily. for the last 10 years, spotting these companies has been the best way to make money, that's not always the case, because although the financial regime will likely stay the same, the doctrine will vary.

>>24818920
well he runs around buying and selling mansions like it isnt shit

>>24818920
he can write of his losses and pay less taxes

>>24818860
>>24818912
Haven't these contracts been reported to the government? If they were fake, wouldn't he go to prison?

>>24818907
He says in the post that he'd been FUDing GME for "months" in late October. What happened in the three months prior to that? He's was consistently wrong from the start and he's still wrong.

Why are you defending a random retard from October unless it's literally you?

>>24818904
He probably doesn't buy anything cause he's a miser. He probably doesn't have a salary to be taxed and just gets paid in stock.

He's a very smart man and tells people what they want to hear so they fuck off and think he's a good guy.

>>24818952
well i see him buying expensive ass ocean side mansions in cali which is probably just pocket change to him. he probably does buy a lot of shit like cars and vacations but he might be so autistic he just invests money all day for his grandkids grandkids grankids grandkids

>>24818949
im not the guy who posted it dumbfuck

sorry you cant recognize a pnd

I have $20k to work with what should my portfolio be anons?

>>24818896
I closed all of my positions not too long ago and am starting to reenter. I bought way too many GOLD 2023 leaps, but Barrick is criminally cheap now. They got fucked in the exuberance of the last bull run in 2011 and overextended, so I'm super pumped their executives stated that $1200 is the new $1000, meaning they are looking to base their expansions off off a more conservative estimate of gold prices ($1200 being the break even price of gold for them).

For silver miners, it honestly depends. I'll probably get some good leaps on the biggest miners and toss some cash for stocks on the smaller ones due to liquidity issues.

I don't plan on selling the GOLD calls for like a year, and I'll probably sell silver shit when it hits big milestones in price spikes.

>>24818904
>>24818952
>actually believing anything about warren buffet that is written

lol, he pretty much owns bill ackman and lilu, dude is a beast but i don't buy the storyline at all

>>24818464
I'm moving to td fuck rh

did i fuck up not pulling out clf?............... i was up 100% in under a week and then i figured well this fucker with 6 figures is holding it he knows more than me and i see some portfolios go down before they go up more but god damn....

watching it go red for 4 fucking days straight is killing me. i went from being up 104% to fucking up 20-30% now and probably going to drop lower probably going to be negative. im not using a lot of right now because im learning but i really would fucking prefer not to lose and not be red.

i even fucked my own ass hole because i knew gme was gonna drop and i set my stop loss but it dropped AFTER HOURS so the minute my stop loss quit for the day the fucking stock dropped 20% and i said well fuck it might as well hold now and then it dropped 7%

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT IM LOSING

>>24818978
>claims I can't recognize a pump and dump
>calls a $800M market cap retail company a pump and dump
Shitcoiner immigrants need to stop parroting shitcoin memes. You can't pump a $800M company by shitposting on /biz/. We have a total NAV of under $2-3M. That's stupid, and you're stupid.

>>24819011
i mean he probably does have a lot of luxury shit but he still lives in the same house thats the size of my parents in fucking omaha he really doesnt seem like he gives a shit he just invests for fun at this point

he clearly has autism too like if you watch videos about him he just talks about selling soda as a coke and being autistically obsessed with selling shit and holding stocks for 30 years

>>24819016
Why did you buy CLF?
Do you know what they deal in, and what kinds of prospects are there for them?

>>24819018
are you one of the old school coomers? do you think i should keep holding gme? at this point i cant really lose much more

>>24819030
i bought about a little over a week or so ago and yeah ive been reading all the shit people post here and i looked into it a little bit. i couldnt find anything else that i thought looked better being shilled here and i just lost my ass buying a stupid meme so i just said fuck it and bought some clf shares and calls

>oil wants to go down again
It was crazy to see people bid that up when inventories were climbing again.

>>24819016
>he knows more than me
it's literally a fat dudeweedbro twitch streamer who bought yolo calls what the fuck made you think he knows more than you

also
>held through earnings without understanding your stop-loss won't save you after hours
consider that one tuition lol

>>24819016
line will go up again but only if you hold through line going down for a little bit

>>24819042
i mean he said he sold his fucking house to buy calls and hes gone up 500% so far he has to know his shit and hes the only person i see posting information about their meme. people here just make stupid unfunny memes for their stock and then it goes up 100% and crashes after

>>24819016
i'm not an expert man, but when i'm up 100% that means i can sell half and just watch what i made move. It's that easy and when it goes down I don't give a fuck because I got my money back. It's your call.

>>24819027
he got mad when they were going to tax his private jets, the real rich don't "own" stuff their business owns it and they never pay taxes on it. russian mafioso look homeless on paper, it's just what they do. his dad was rich and a stockbroker too.

>>24819038
It'll pump again but don't expect anything near $20 again.

>>24819038
yes and that depends entirely on your own appetite for risk, how balls deep you already are, and whether you're holding shares
>holding a sensible amount of shares
Get used to these swings it's GME lol
>holding a ridiculous amount of shares
If you can't afford to lose half of your GME position, consider trimming – Cohen walking sends us straight to $6 of whatever
>holding long dated calls (April, July, or LEAPs)
You're probably fine
>holding short dated calls
God rest your soul

>>24817467
I can't even work up the energy to pre-play the stimulus, if we get a pink wojak day I'll just buy more.

one of these covid mutations causing a big shakeout and being catalyst to pop the dot-com bubble 2.0 is the only thing I worry about, but even then we know some sectors would love it so there's still money to be made

>>24819064
yeah i saw something on reddit saying he tried to stop solar power from coming to the desert because hes investing in electrical companies over there but didnt see much more about that and he ended up actaully supporting solar power i think.

>>24819075
i just got shares and ive been holding them im not retarded enough to buy gme calls before earnings. i really wish i bought puts though i was thinking about it but i already have a good chunk of my bank invested in stocks

>>24819054
The CLF anon was also the KTOV anon. Same autism, similar repetition of stocktwits posts, same relentless posting.
He lost his ass on that despite being sure it would be bought out at $10 (pre-RS).
A long CLF position is hoping that, when again there is talk of an infrastructure bill prob in Feb/march, that is actually happens. When for the past 3 presidents - Bush, Obama, Trump- it went nowhere. There is some swing potential around there maybe.
VALE is probably the superior iron play, among other things. Assuming that Covid shutdowns don't wreck them again.

eat a cock fuckers

>>24819016

Just drown out the noise around you. CLF has practically doubled in 2 months. Even the coronavirus doesn't work that fast

>>24819107
yeah thats whats worrying me he might end up holding those calls down to 0 but the company has had some fucking massive runs lately.

ive been hearing a lot of shit about steel being in demand and theyre taking over a lot companies to produce more. i heard theres some new form of green energy the government is pushing that requires steel and that made me want to get into it after clf chad

>>24819107
Some wisdom here
The govt is just too fucked to get together and make any real infrastructure bull happen.

>>24819038
You did not lose your ass. Iron are reaching the highest prices of the last 7 years. China is continually buying a shittonne for their expansion and I reckon the rest of the world will follow suit shortly.
CLF is reaching at least $35, and it might go higher.

>orange juice futures still down

>>24819120
>I want to be an eceleb

>>24819107

If JP Morgan sees a 50% upside in Vale I wonder what upgrade Cliffs is going to get lol

>>24819124
im pretty new to stocks just sucked balls to see my calls go up 100% and then down 80% and ive already been riding up and down with my clf calls so im just getting used to it.

>>24819130
i lost my ass on crsr. i had no idea what i was doing and i saw everyone here making money with memes. i was holding apple msft and amazon and they did nothing but grab for 3 months and i just fuck this i need memes and as soon as i bought crsr it crashed down 30%. ive made it back though ive basically been crabbing for 4-5 months

>>24819132
The lean hogs though
Do the pigs fly?

>>24819140
i really gotta get back to working and just throw all my money in clf calls and other shit just incase it works out. my calls are all until 1/15 i want some april calls maybe june

>>24819107
>KTOV anon

Yeah i remember that guy

Lookin like smol breakout on /es, we're in weird lumpy low volume til we get back to 3670 tho
>>24819013
Yaya grim ToS is so good, when I switched the hassle was way worth it
>>24819011
Buffett is a shark 100%, the whole "kindly old man who just loves KO and MCD" is laughable. Ever look into how he was involved in the Franklin scandal and hosted Larry King (criminal, not the TV host) 's birthday party at his house?

>>24819142
If you're not gonna do any research at all and put no thoughts into your investments and just buy memes at least make sure you get in early then.

>>24819140
Iron and steel, like uranium, are protected industries in much of the world. Recovery projects will almost certainly require domestic sourcing. And that is the problem for CLF or most US iron/steel plays.
China will almost certainly try to just build their way out of economic weakness. They have a history of doing it. And they will source excess need from large providers like VALE.
The US has a NASTY habit of having such projects go nowhere. And the odds of that happening again given the battle lines around "green" projects aren't helped.

>>24819180
yeah i learned that now the only meme i really paid attention to was gme and i noticed that kept going up so i thought id gamble. as soon as crsr dropped 30% i did my research and realized it was fucking garbage. im thinking of just throwing money on meme etfs like moon and arkk while i sit back and learn

>>24819179
He’s the good cop to munger’s bad cop
They both want the same thing

>>24819179
Any market emotion/sectors that you can discern from the cards anon? Your previous readings were pretty well done.

FYI for brit bros

VOD goes ex divvie on Thursday

*sips*

How much do you realistically need to become a day trader? I have $20k cash

>>24818708
How unrude of you.

I'm supposed to call you faggot, but you won't stoop to my level.

On topic:
Gold as a safe asset is not the worst. I'll prefer food, just because I know what happened in March. Everything got liquidated and everyone went to grocery stores.

>>24818830
Not a shabby list...most of all guns and ammo

Still surprised ammo prices are not 4x, 10x.

>>24818935
check out their websites. looks like a pnd, but am very curious about their 2billion dollar contract.

>>24819190
Dont forget that the US steel consumption has a high presence of foreign imports with 61% of that coming from brazil then the remaining coming from Mexico and Russia. I wouldn't be surprised if said steel gets used in "US" infrastructure stimulus given the pay to play nature of our government and representatives.

>>24819218
as someone whos been doing this for 5 months and sucking at it i would say just put money that etf and sit back and learn while

>>24819200
>gamble
Don't fucking gamble on stocks. Invest.
Is there a sector that you happen to have some knowledge of? Like tech, retailers, biopharma, etc?
Use that knowledge and buy companies you think have a lot of growth potential.

>>24819218
That man needs to gain weight....also 25k + to get passed retard minimum rule.

Or else only 3 day trades per 5 days (I think 5 days)...

>>24819179
>Buffett takes a sip of Coca-Cola
>photographer snaps photo
>immediately a butler wearing white gloves runs over carrying a spittoon
>Buffett sprays the coke into the spittoon, darkening the white gloves
>"Too easy Alfred. Like taking candy from a baby."
>"Have them take a few pictures of you drinking their sugar water, save billions in taxes."
>"Just a nice, simple old man, right Alfred?"
>"Quite, sir."

>>24819237
yeah i know a lot about tech but i think amazon and apple is gonna be pointless as a poorfag i think you need a nice 50k+ invested in them and they just had a massive bull run over the past 3 years.

its fucked because if i started investing in 2014-2017 i would be set by now because every product im interested in has mooned

fuck the dumping and crabbing. I'm never selling RYCEY

>>24819218
>become a day trader
No
Earn an income instead, and invest your monthly income

Anons what our take on the US economy now? Have we become the new japan or are we still missing some crucial failures before we have our lost decade?

>>24819237
All assets should gain much more in value in 6 months.

Would recommend picking your favorite stocks and just hold on for the ride up.

Inflation train, here we come.

>>24819179
>>24819202
munger has some great thoughts on human irrational behavior though, he's a total order from chaos guy

>>24819254
Buy Chainlink.

Only asset on biz that hasn't skyrocketed yet....although will soon.

>>24819256
I make $100k as a swe but the 60 hour work weeks is gay af

>>24819179
What was your verdict on mannarino?
And you still listen to macro voices?

>>24819262
Canada is much closer to Japanification than the US
The Bank of Canada is very close to being a majority owner of nearly all non-land based assets like the Bank of Japan is in Japan.

>>24817737
>economy hasn't recovered to pre-Covid levels but stock market reaching new ATH
>stock priced higher than pre-Covid despite company making less money
>lots of relatively new companies with ridiculous valuations despite losing money or making small profits
>decades or centuries worth of growth is priced into the stock

>>24819253
>I'm going to let you in on a little secret
>you know my small house that I've lived in since the 50s?
>all a charade
>there's a 200,000 square foot bunker underneath

>>24819282
He’s cute

Did michael burry dump his gme bags?

Are there niggers here who dont own AMD? Why not? Last chance before it breaks $100.

>>24819283
Mannarino is based
He knows what's going on
also genuinely good guy for putting out his trading books for free

>>24819228
OPTEC's price history goes back to 1995 though, they had contracts with the federal government in the late 2000s for the moon rover lidar.

>>24819282
Does she take it in the pooper?

>>24819312
sua does

>>24819218
It would probably make more sense to just invested 1k each into 20 memestocks, do a 2x in 2 weeks and then fuck off with your 40k to wait out the winter recession.

>>24819311
the ceo is a fraudster...

>>24819305
Low buying power is my situation

>>24819286
jup, we already saw how lower earnings crushed certain stocks, even the ones that performed well got crushed.

>>24819296
Based Junk-chan.

>>24819305
i have SOXX

>>24819327
Get outta here Elmer J.
>FUD

>>24819284
what about our industries anon do you feel as if we have entered a possible zombie state as major companies are being protected by government intervention ala boeing, auto industry, banks, etc.? Instead of allowing for creative destruction.

>>24819330
That’s been pretty standard for years with the high growers. Amd and nvda would always crush earnings and then get crushed anyways.

Shit look at lulu

>>24819351
whatever you say Tyler Durden

>>24819284
Canada's one strength against Japanification is the ungodly amount of resources we can export
>need more loonies
>hahaha crown land mining go brrrrr

3 bucks more for organic food is too expensive, but a 1.5k OTM weekly is priced just right

>>24819382
And the Chinese you can import
Japan has a population problem

>>24819278
no crypto ever gets big unless you buy it under a dollar

The second MARA goes to $1 again Im exiting all my positions and just holding until the next BTC boom.

>>24819327
OPTI has been around since the 1970s, are you saying this dude spent decades pumping his stock and then dumping it or something?

>>24819382
>crown land mining go brrrr
>Bunch of angry natives take your rail lines hostage (again), quebecois demand even greater social spending or secession, import thousands of foreigners who hate canada, sell all of vancouver to china, while having PM blackface further raises taxes while cutting of resource exploitation.

Really good system you got their canada.

NUMI making gains in europe

https://www.boerse-frankfurt.de/equity/numinus-wellness-inc

mmed is down -25% lmao

Good morning /smg/, I just bought my first call option.

>>24818775
Nice mate, Got GLD leaps for Jan 21
Sooo tempted to drop some more SLV leaps as well

When will the fund managers restructure their positions? Are they trying to prolong the asset swaps in order to get more gains from the stock market? It has to happen next week?

>>24819439
look into the ceo... tell me who the staff are

>>24819400
>>24819278

bitfarms is a thing that exists
https://thedeepdive.ca/bitfarms-recent-ma-transaction-highlights-companys-valuation/

>>24819298
Not entirely, but he's been unloading for a while now. Ironically he started selling when everyone else started buying.

>>24819444
I don't want to talk about it.

dumb your PLTR on me boys.

>>24819470
NO.

>>24819458
Fun!

>>24819218
Good opportunities for day trades are very rare, so meeting the $25k requirement isn't necessary.

>>24819262
The last decade was the lost decade they just avoided the problems by printing their way to an illusion of wealth. It was also the last decade, since the USA is about to balkanize.

>>24819204
Did a quick past::present::future, it actually came out real interesting o_o
Past: Ace of Swords, Kether, Air. Fundamental building block of reason and intillect, atomic point of creation, cutting objectivity. Thelema is inscribed upon the blade, Love under Will. if Love is the Lantern, then Will is the iron pole with which creation is illuminated. The sword reminds us of this, striking upwards towards the crown, the sky, higher knowledge and razor sharp truth.
Present: Princess of Cups, Malkuth, Water. From the highest sephirah (Kether) we have struck straight down to the lowest (Malkuth). Emotion welling up from a subaltern position, the Swan leaping up from the earth and seas. See the turtle, it bears the world on its back, so too does our humble princess. Clarity of emotion and thought.
Future: Ace of Disks, Kether, Earth. Straight back up to the highest sephirah, fun round trip. Elementally as well, as Air is allied to Water, and Water allied to Earth, yet Earth opposes Air. The ace, the root of solidity and matter, dependability. The solar (To Mega Therion) disc on the green of spring, the egg waiting to be fertilized.
What could it mean? A shift from high beta and tech to value? Day of the Russell? Hehe, it’s not up to the reader to tell the querent what it means to them :3

>>24819429
>as soon as BTC does a suicide plunge to zero I'll buy back in

i just want money. please give me fucking money i dont have time

>>24819503
Pretty spoopy reading anon.

>>24819491
Not if you trade on the based ASX

>>24819470
You rolled a natural 1 in persuasion. Noone joins you on your FUD quest. What would you like to do next?

>>24819515
Sent

>>24819503
hey tarrotfren, can we get a reading for GME?

>>24819283
Uhhh I've never watched/listened to mannarino, I've seen him rt'd on twitter but I have no idea.
And yaya! Macrovoices has been hit n miss lately, the last one with Pippa Malmgren was a buncha bullhonky and their new show about """sustainable ethical investing""" is weird, but the other recent one with Jeff Snider is GALAXY BRAIN, I've been trying to understand like 1/10 of what he said

>>24819528
show me your holdings

>>24819503
It means green rock glow warm and make me comfy

>>24819528
I'd like to re-roll my failed attempt to make you repent anon.

>>24819429
Why MARA over BITF?

>>24819506
MARA is not a crypto ETF, it's a miner. It maes its money through volume of transactions, essentially.

>>24819283
>>24819308

Mannarino is based...for a high ranking freemason

>>24819559
Bit coin at 25k?

Earn 25% profit

Own Mara when BTC is at 25k?

Earn 200% profit++++

>>24819589
No, Bitfarms. BITF on the TSXV. They're also a bitcoin miner, but trade at a lower market cap per hash rate.

>>24819551
Lean and comfy as hell.

>>24818923
This is so fucking true for UZA (United Zionists of America). If you want to buy real companies that actually make profit and are not part of the elite's plan to predict the future then just go through the russell 3000 index and sort by EPS.

>>24819400
....Ethereum was at $10 at one point.....

>>24819622
its made by a weird ass pedophile

>>24819218
First, have realistic ideas about your annual return. Beating the index consistently is hard. This is mainly because you fall behind during rough patches on cumulative small (hopefully not large) losses. On average say 10-15% per year. Good traders can pull over 20% per year every year. The absolute hotshot best can do 30-40%. Now do the calculation of how much you need to gain desired monthly income minus cappy gains taxes.

20k double to 40k with margin isn't enough. Not even close.

>>24819558
You succeed in your persuassion but notice some NAK bag holders entering /smg/
>everyone roll initiative

are you guys wagies or full time traders or how do you get money for stocks?

>>24819636
I would fuck him if I were your mom

whats the flavor of the month penny stock below a dollar thats being shilled? Im out of the loop

>>24819648
I wage in my cage until I'm a sage.

>>24819614
kek you think im not holding

>>24819664
rycey isnt that cheap but its under 2

>>24819648
Wagie

>>24819648
Im a healthcare wagie, my hours are all over the place but the plus side is I’m home for market open/close and only go to work after market close.

>>24819676
McDonalds?

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3644279-mesoblast-fails-to-meet-primary-endpoint-of-reduction-in-recurrent-non-fatal-heart-failure
>Do I buy puts?
>is it that easy?

>>24819680
Can you cure my covid?

>>24819648
Earn 500k

Drop 120K into stocks each year, wish it could be more but have house payments and my parents medical bills

>>24819648
I used to wage but then covid. So i get government gibs and put 3/4 of my free money into the stock market.

>>24819704
500k?

Prostitute?

>>24819218
Day traders are retards. Become a month trader instead

>>24819704
jesus christ 500k a year? why even have house payments just work for 3 years and buy an entire mansion outright

>>24819683

>>24819704
can you pay my tuition

>>24819667
>fuds his own holdings

Deepest retard lore.

>>24819714
Doctor

Wasnt always like this mate I can assure you.

>>24819715
Slave trader probably does better than a day trader

>>24819717
>Buying a mansion
>losing the house in 5 years cause you cannot afford property tax/upkeep
>Oooooooooof

>>24819648
I'm a wagie who spends too much time reading world news and company reports and this fucking site

>>24819724
you think this thing is going on the nasdaq?

>>24819717

Several properties over a mansion is my preference.

My house is comfy and not too flashy just the way I like it.

>>24819725
How bad is covid fucking you over?

Also, how bad is your tax rate?

Hey the OP is too FUCKING complicated and overblown. Is there a tldr video/blog/shitpost I can get up to speed on what I actually need to know? Please respond.

>>24818923
Based. Retards always say "it doesnt matter if a company isnt profitable! Look at Amazon!". Reality is Amazon is a glownigger company. So is Tesla. And Twitter. And Faceberg. And Microsoft. And Apple. Steve Jobs was literally John Lennon, just like Alex Jones is Bill Hicks.
If a company is part of the glownigger/kike plan, it will succeed because the Zionist forces will collude to ensure its success, and profitability does not matter. However normal companies not in their club will just crab eternally even if profitable and if they ever arent profitable they will lose 90% of their price.

>>24819648
Wagie. Or sort of. My hours were cut 50% because corona chan raped me. In a normal good year trading boosts my income by 10-20%. Sometimes better sometimes worse. 2019 was garbage for me.

>>24819745

In Aus atm

Covid decreased patient flow at the start but its now as busy as ever.

Gov has allwoed phone consults so now I can charge for stuff over the phone which I did for free before.

>>24819749
just click the third link, install robinhood, and buy meme stocks

Mind med is going too fucking high before the Nasdaq listing. Normies are ruining the perfect Nasdaq pump and dump.

>>24819745
Sorry you asked Tax rate

I run my income through a trust structure, so tax rate comes out to approx 35-38%

>>24819752
So PLTR to moon anon?

>>24819740
Yes. But Not until later in 2021

need a wagie to make me a new thread

>>24819749
If you find OP too complicated then you are going to lose a shit ton of money in the stock market

>>24819765
Out of curiosity what broker do you use for trading in dollaridoos?

>>24819749
>lurk more
>invest on the inverse of what /biz/ tells you

>>24819749
Why should we invest in you if you're not willing to invest in yourself?
There are no shortcuts

>>24819801
Alright just a second

>>24819817
>there are no shortcuts
if we told him to just buy $1000 worth of TQQQ each month and do nothing else for ten years he'd almost certainly beat the average poster itt

>>24819802
ha dumb ass i dont understand a fucking word and only lost 3k haha

>>24819835
Tqqq will crash in 4 years

>>24819765
GP?
>t. Brit ED doc considering taking the Auspill

BREAD BAKED
>>24819848

>>24819853
TQQQ crashed this year and it was fine

>>24819817
I may not know much but I do know investing is about speculative value not current value. Invest in me and I'll take up to the moon. Don't you want to gin at the IPO?

>>24819805
INKR

>>24817506
NET

>>24817506
Telco stocks are maximum comfy

>>24817705
i can assure you they wont to companies like telsa to aid them its just not the right fiscal move

>>24818846
I avoid tqqq for the same reason. I only really do international markets for the same reason as well. Trying to start a company abroad to make forign direct investments...

>>24819704
clearly an ausfag. what did you specialise in?