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Computer science

math

>>24767092
Medicine

I'm a math major and I was going to switch to computer science but my friend told me that there are like a million computer science majors and that I should minor in stats instead

Youtube

Philosophy

>>24767183
Yea CS seems oversaturated as fuck. If you gratuated like 5-10 years ago you're fine but going into CS in 2020? Seems risky af to me.

t. CS major

>>24767178
This

>>24767229
If you were me now what would you go into then?

>>24767092
anything related to the arts, have you seen how much those pop stars, actors and famous artists in general get paid?

>>24767092
Jewish studies

don't do cs
it's over
i did it
it's over

>>24767178
Medicine is just wagieing of the upper middle class. If you put the effort and skills needed to become a high-paid doctor into anything else you would be 10x richer.

Welding

>>24767459
Deep sea welding

>>24767229
There is more demand for software engineers than ever before, if anything there will be more demand in the next 5 years.

>>24767092
Gender studies. The future is queer

>>24767092
Take the air traffic controller test out of high school. You'll be making 6 figures before you're old enough to drink.

>>24767183
>my friend told me
You made a possibly life changing decision based on this...

>>24767092
Pharmacy is pretty lucrative while comfy. I make sure my wagies put the right pill in the bottle and I give a bunch flu shots during Fall. I'm set to make close to $200k by the end of this year after working an average of 50 hours per week. I'm gonna milk this until AI takes over my job.

welding

>tfw autistic, but not autistic enough to be good at programming.
What jobs should I look at specializing in?

>>24767229
And the price of Bitcoin will never go over $1

>>24767092
OP, follow your strengths, find something you will at least enjoy, and apply yourself.

history is all you need to learn to do anything. Otherwise, math is the next best one. DO NOT waste your time on useless shit like business,economics, psychology or any other social science

>>24767432
Doctors live longer. It’s also good for your lifespan.

>>24767512
yeah but don't you have to spend all those hours in a walgreens? i mean, imagine how much walgreens christmas music you have to listen to while working under bright flourescent lights and being video taped so you don't steal drugs. i would probably neck myself

>>24767560
Why is economics a waste of time? Won’t it make me a millionaire?

>>24767506
He goes to an ivy and he's basically always right about this kind of stuff

>>24767092
>no math
Learn to ask "Would you like fries with that?"

>>24767577
I don't work for Walgreens or CVS. Those companies are shit.
And it's incredibly easy to steal drugs as long as they're not controlled. Not worth it in the off chance I get caught though. I've stolen a bottle of Viagra before a vacation to Asia once lol

>>24767203
THIS

>>24767506
>I would do stats with a minor in CS. There's so much data waiting to be analyzed.

>>24767497
Wow, actual relevant advice.

Only problem is that it requires innate aptitude. That's what they are testing for. If OP has it, though, yeah, they really do make solid money and their career is a 100% secure government job. *

* as long as they don't get drunk on duty and fall asleep, leaving everyone in the airspace to fend for themselves, which one alkie bitch did last year

>>24767529
Accounting. But you won't make great money

>>24767092
Listen to me OP. I just finished shadowing Standford MBAs and McKinsey advisors for a year. Interfaced with a lot of high-level, high-paid investment bankers, doctors, and technocrats. DO NOT study something to 'get rich.' The reality of pursuing something like CS or medicine to become rich as these anons suggest >>24767170
>>24767178
is a brutal grind which you will probably not finish unless you are well-networked and politically astute or autistic and hopelessly in love with the field. Even people who love the field do not make it because they do not have the political savvy to navigate their career climb and maximize earnings. For the most part, even when you reach the top, you are nothing but a glorified employee running on a golden hamster wheel for the true rich. Medicine caps at between $700k to 1mil, and that means 100 hour work weeks well into retirement age around late forties/early fifties.

What I suggest to you if you are not from a well connected family with a network and able to attend the ivy league is this,

GO MILITARY.
Seriously. I wish I would have done this.
Do it while you're young. Commit to a basic five year contract. Airforce or Navy (or Army depending on what interests you.) Serve your time. You'll save up some bank. In your off-time, apply yourself to learning about business, finance, or whatever interests you.

When your contract is up, enroll in college. The military will pay you to go to school. Study whatever interests you. I recommend engineering, economics, or something related to today's major industries but the arts are okay also. DO WELL. You'll have no excuses because the military pays your tuition, rent, and gives you some fun money.

When you graduate with a 4.0 GPA or something close to that, you'll be 23-24 with work history.... perfect age to apply to a masters or grad program (which will raise your earning potential) or start working or re-enlist and earn much more than your peers straight out of college.

>>24767563
If you calculate doctor income as an hourly wage it's not great. They also do call which often means working 24 hours straight or more. The job consumes your whole life and the doctors that try to maintain a lifestyle outside of work take home as much as a teacher or nurse

>>24767593
No, topkek
Economics will make sure that you are never poor. That's it. Most people who understand it go on to be academics making 200k TOPS. Same salary for central bank and economic researcher at any top tech company. You will peak at 200k

>>24767593
The problem with economics is, that if teachers would be right, they would be the richest people in the world. The other problem is, that most of them think, that Keynes was right. If they would teach Austrian economics, it could be viable.

>>24767667
This. And yeah if you're a fuckup then of course you'll get canned. Also no drugs (not just weed. If you were ever on psychological shit you're prob not going to qualify through the physical)

The nice thing is, take the test. It costs $0, is 8 hours of your life, and if you pass it you open up a wonderful career that still has pension, benefits, and depending on where you work, pretty cushy. There's crazy places like NYTracon or SoCAL, but there's also tiny ass bullshit towers like MMU that do next to nothing and still break $80k/year.
Where you want to go in this career is entirely up to you too. And if you don't like it, then you can do school on the side while still making bank. You'll still be ridiculously more better off than anyone who went to college right out the gate (again, if you have the brains/concentration for it)

>>24767720
Continuing this post...

If you go masters or grad, the military will pay. It will raise your earning potential. Also, you'll have the benefit of the alumni network, wherever you attended... No debt because military paid for everything. You might even have savings because during the time in, you invested in your money in tech stocks like TSLA, Amazon, etc...

Now say you finish your program with a masters in economics, you're 27yo, and the first position you land is working for a hedge fund making $180k to 300k base pay plus commission. You have zero debt. You're basically free. You can build and start businesses. Do whatever you want. Fuck expensive hookers in your free-time. Who cares.

That's my advice to you. Seriously look into it.

>>24767092
Financial Engineering
Everything else is a meme.
DO NOT FALL FOR THE BIG DATA MEME OR COM-SCIENCE MEME.

>>24767736
What should I study then?

>>24767092
Bachelors of Four Channel Janitorial Services

>>24767812

>>24767756
How do I become rich

>>24767773
To add onto this, don't just go get a Master's just because, start reading academic papers and journals such as ACM or IEEE if you're interested in CS or CE. There are academic organizations for each discipline, so start reading papers and get to know the people that are involved. Google Scholar is a resource I use all the time. Bitcoin started out as a white paper, so the world's at your fingertips.

>>24767720
At 23 you'd just be getting out, not finishing a degree

>everyone is talking about the best way to wagecuck
What happened, jer your balls drop off?

>>24767720
>I recommend engineering
>arts are ok also
Why do you actively hate young people and give goddamn horrible advice?

Best majors:
Electrical Engineering
Industrial Engineering with a focus on operations research
Cyber Security

>>24768068
It takes money to make money.

Uh Computer Science is fine, but you have to actually be good. It's really like anything else. If you work hard and have a genuine interest in computers & ideally stats, maths, microeconomics you'll do well. Same reasons some accountants make 40k and some make 500k.

>>24767773
You really think you’ll get a job at a hedge fund with a masters in econ and some military experience lmfao???

>>24767756
I was econ, all my professors were socialists who belived money was the route of evil and encompassed greed - i work in financial consulting (accounting) now and they hated me because I wasnt a socialist marxist cuck

>>24768321
This - you need connections nobody gives a fuck you were in the military

>>24768321
My cousin went to dartmouth with an under grad and he makes 200k working in private equity - most kids in my econ major were social retards ...fyi read “how to win friends and influence people”..75% of doing well at work is sociak interaction

>>24767170
Not anymore. h1b pajeets will take your job and work for less

I did engineering. Make about 90k a year 2.5 years in. Living in low CoL area. Kinda wish I became a doctor though because they get paid double my salary

>inb4 100hrs a week.

Idc, every doctor gets a badass trophy wife at the end of med school and tons of vacation

Really the only argument against medicine is the 300k debt or whatever it is, but I feel like the prestige of the profession almost makes up for it

Degrees are a meme. I just finished my general studies degree while working full time and I make over 160k.

Triple PhD in Data Analysis, Finance, Comp Sci. Mainly because you can use Authority bias to make anyone do anything you want.

Do you not see the big push for space travel and space mining? Aerospace engineering ftw. It's the next frontier.

>>24767225
LMAO

>>24768678
>I feel like the prestige of the profession almost makes up for it
Don't be tricked by this meme. Yes, surgeons, doctors with private practices, and big pharma guys get the prestige. But the way medicine is now most doctors are working at a minute clinic or something like that, because nobody can afford the whole 'family doctor' thing anymore.
You'll work holidays, weekends, etc, seeing people who can't take care of themselves.

>>24767183
desu kind of a waste of time unless youre just doing it for enjoyment on your parents dime
literally just watch a real analysis course on youtube and save yourself 3 years of plug and chugging

>>24768724
space is probably fake desu lmao

>>24768779
Based

>>24767092
i dont know hard it is to get into but i know someone who went into patent law and they make a ton of money like probably 1k a day for 5 hours of actual work

>>24767773
>>24767720
This
In addition, through the connections you make in the military you can later jump into civilian contractor roles and make $200k-$300k doing 9 month contracts in Afghanistan, Iraq, Djibouti, etc. All living expenses paid and tax exempt, so thats $300k - NET, for less than 1 year.

>>24768625

Not true, you’re a faggot loser who can’t land an L5-L7 at amazon you stupid dinosaur brain nigger monkey. My amazon TC is $320,000 a year keep getting your hole stuffed by ginders you fucking loser

>>24768922
yeah or just trade altcoins and not die in some crazy armagedon battle with china and iran

>>24768998
>t. pajeet street shitter

>>24769033

Whatever you say dinobrain nigger, enjoy always being a low IQ brainlet who’ll never pull TC higher than curryniggers

>>24767667
>which one alkie bitch did last year
link/keywords?

>>24767775
Lol, CS majors make $100k right out of college. If you get into FANG its >$200k.

>>24768998
Blind user detected xD.

YOE: 5 TC: $374k

In 2015 I Enrolled at Miami University as a poor fag. I was blessed with a large dong and a stripper suggested I go gigalow. I would frequent Boca and west palm for gilf sugar mommies . Ended up married to a 65 yr old in 2017. I dropped out. We divorced in 2018. I got a new Jaguar F type out of it but Im still a poor fag.

Stay in school anon

>>24769156

Lol not true at all about FANG salaries. Even in SF.

>>24767092
Don't go to UNI in the US man. Its cheaper and better elsewhere. And you get a degree in 3 years instead of the average 5. Also euro women are actually relatable.

>>24767879
Create lots of value for lots of people. Or become a criminal/deceiver

>>24769206
How big we talkin' sport?

>>24769156
100k in Silicon Valley is a pretty shit salary given the cost of living

>>24767225
Kek

>>24767092
Dentist.
>pic related for explanation

>>24767469
This shit will break your body.

if you have a logical mindset definitely go into gambling or trading

>>24770512
book? seems like Taleb

>>24767092

Mine is going to be a shocker:
If you don’t want to end up like pic related and have an engineer/comp sci salary, hear me out:

Psychology (heavy on the stats) plus a Himan-Computer Interaction Or UX Design master’s

You can earn over 200k by being a contractor UX researcher / designer. Or up to 200k if wou want to be on a long term contract.

It’s fun, in demand and really useful stuff

>>24771230
>really useful stuff
UX is fucking useless garbage job. Made up job for diversity quotas.

>tfw finance Chad
if you want to make the big buck you gotta become the guy in charge of the bucks
he who controls the wallet has all the power and the highest wage

>>24771230
What this anon said: >>24771398
UX design has gone down the shitter since it became its own field

>>24767563
>sleep-deprived for 4 years of med school and then 3-7 more years of residency
i doubt they live long happy lives. don't they have the highest suicide rate out of any profession?

>>24769829
9.75 inches long 7.75 inches wide.
It scares more woman off then you would imagine. A gift and a curse

>>24767726
Did Medicine in Aus. 5 years Med school 2 years Internship, 2 years General practice training, fully qualified at 27.

Started earning 350K at 27/28 40 hour work week. Now own an equity share in the practice, pull in 500k+ a year at age 30.

Tell me this is not life on easy mode.

>>24768678
Doctor here. Prestige is basically non existent unless you are someone who does something very specific on your field that no one else does.
Also like many anons pointed out it you apply to something else like you would for medicine you would find success and would probably stress less.
That said you can get a good balance of personal life and money-making depending on your chosen specialty. I get to shoot lasers inside people's eyes, no on-call hours or weekends.
Still, if I somehow make it from crypto I'm definitely cutting back on work and dedicating to other things that interest me.

>>24767092
Gender studies

>>24771677
more info needed
what uni?
how did u handle hecs
did u work part time
where did u do your internship/residency
you did not go from $0 to 350k ...

>>24767092
Electrical Engineering negro, <2% of graduates are EE.

>>24767092
Getting rich from wageslaving or a 'career' is a fucking meme anon. If you want to be wealthy fuck college and either start your own business, or get an easy job and use the capital you make from it to invest, start early too, do not delay

I tell you this as a millionaire university business graduate. I unironically learned more about investing and business in my first week on /biz than 4 years of university. All university will prepare you for is a life of wage slavery

>>24767092
>ctrl F
>geology
>0 results
ngmi

>>24771999
This, have an MSc which is nice as you understand lots of shit going on around you but ultimatively every job is about administrative bullshit required because of same lame processes, it fucks you up. Be as independent as possible

>>24771999
I need a second opinion on this

>>24767720
>GO MILITARY
*flushes your post down the toilet*

>>24767726
If you know how to play the game then you’re good. I’m a specialist physician I make 400k a year and since I’m not a dummy I chose a good lifestyle field so I work 4 days a week. On top of that I can make $ doing other shit like buying link in 2017. Thanks to link my technical net in the last 5 years was 750k a year. Although it’s good I guess it’s not a home run. But I had a choice for some biotechs that would have put me in the millions but oh well. I’m super respected at work too which is a nice feeling desu

>>24772221
Why do you say this? Have you been in the military? I think if some people in my life took this route, it would've served them better.

>>24772206
he's right.

most people wageslave 20 years before ralizing the money is in management or consulting. The real money is in contracting or more specifically starting a contracting business and then hiring a manager so you can sit back and make millions doing nothing.

most professionals in the US are taught this in college though. That's why an MBA is standard training for engineers and many applied sciences.

>>24767092
>No math
Brainlet, math-heavy jobs are the ones that pay out the most and have the least competition

>>24767092
top military school and then cybersecurity engineering for the gov. first 5 years as an employee, then as a contractor.

>>24772357
>then as a contractor
your SAM disclosures alone will take a full time employee to fill out. So much proprietary information

>>24772373
that is why you spend 5 years as an employee. get contacts, learn, save money.

>>24772206
Also, I don't mean fuck University off and then sit in your bedroom jacking off and playing video games. You need to be DRIVEN. it's harder than being at university because you will not be given any direction - you need to set goals and decide on a course of action all by yourself. But once you learn to do this, the world is yours. This is the mindset you need, and the mindset 99% of wageslaves lack. Also, expect hate and seethe from salty wageslaves because you have had the guts to take your future into your own hands, and not taken the safe path like they have

>>24772381
gov employees almost never shift to contracting just because of the pay gap. You go from making 6 figure equivalents in pay and benefits to risking no income for years while you get up and running.

contracting is the short path to wealth though. You just have to be able to tolerate years without income.

>>24772381
my first 2 years as a government contractor I lost money. My 3rd year I made as much as a GS-9
My 4th year I made as much as a GS-15 step 10
the next 16 years I made an average of half a million a year.

if I stayed on as a government employee I wouldn't even have made GS-9 by now. But then I wouldn't have had to go 2 years without income either. And I would've taken 30 years to become a millionaire, something I did in my 2nd year of contracting.

>>24772411
he said he wanted to get rich. so I thought as a contractor you have great chances with gov background when trying to land a gig in the private sector. I worked with people similar background.

>>24772501
you're right, but don't go telling everyone....

jk, to navigate the paperwork as a federal contractor requires an ASVAB of at least 90, with some stuff in the 95+ range.
I know more about government security, acquisition, and paperwork than almost all government workers. If you took those same skills to work for the government you'd still make enormous money.

most people aren't capable of that route.

>>24767092
physical sciences, some tech majors, engineering, some math majors

>>24767879
Learn to invest, DCA into Bitcoin is a good start

Neuroscience / Genetics / Robotics

Best Case Combination of all three

>>24772274
I wish I wasn't a loser. How do I turn this shit around

>>24767092
the TRADES
UNION Craft trades
electricity
iron
heavy equipment
6figs in 3years rless
45-60+ hours a week

>>24767203
this

>>24767225
kek

>>24767092
fagman

>>24767092
I'm a professional TOMOCHAIN staker. I am really not sure how you guys do it. LEL. welp time to buy up another blockchain and bang 10/10 Hanoi roasties. Seeya!

>>24771999
Not false, browsed biz everyday on the bus to college back in 2018, saw chain link threads 24/7, put in the about 30k usd I got from exploiting in RuneScape into link at 30-35cents per. Sold it this year at 17. Overall approximately 1.1mil profit after taxes. If I just wageslaved for 75k/yr and put it into stocks it would’ve taken 10+ years to get what I got browsing biz for 3 years. Whatever you do get a degree that’s employable, you don’t have to like it just make sure it’s easy af and has a decent wage. Then you can set aside some time for a business or investments

The streets is my major

>>24767610
Your friend is just a student. If you excel in it, truly enjoy it and look forward to it, its the best career possible. Comfy office, automate as much as possible, drink coffee, insane salary.

>t. Software Dev with 150k+ total comp in Europoor.

>>24773972
What country?

>>24767255
For money? I would say medicine beats CS for making money but really you should go for what actually interests you since it'll be easier to put more hours into something that is interesting to you.

>>24768625
Pajeets also create shitty code that no one wants to maintain, which is more expensive for the company in the long run. We've already gone through this cycle at least twice since the 90s, if anything companies are moving to South America/Eastern Europe/Ireland (which has a surprisingly large tech contracting sector) for offshore work.

>>24767255
But desu if you want to be rich you basically have to learn some kind of investing/business skills at some point anyway so I would probably just go that route right from the start instead of wasting time on CS.

>>24774585
Nah, just get a CS bach and an MBA.

Can’t go wrong with EE or ME. Mining / subsurface Engineering if you want something more niche

>>24767092
>no math
ngmi retard
but yeah medicine if you're stupid but have good memory and resilience/endurance and somehwat of a passion for the job or you're goiung to end up miserable.

>>24771398

Please explain. Are you saying there is no need for usability research and testing?

>>24771500

It went down the shitter because graphic designers rebranded themselves as “UX/UI” designers. Good UX is essential to a product.

>>24768922
>Djibouti

i can make that much programmimg javascript apps and i dont have to travel to da booty

>>24775255
Moving buttons and asking people to test the feel out isn't a job.
I am a software developer and I have to interact with UX for some features. Their job is completely pointless, it's a made up role which serves no purpose. My "common sense" could replace their salary

>tfw masters in urban planning

>>24771534
came here to post this

>>24775624

I was actually interested in hearing your point of view but it sounds like you simply don’t have enough info to make a judgement. I agree, there are lots of charlatans (as with most new professions) but I encourage you to look more into it since you work in a related field. It’s not about moving buttons (that’s the UI guy’s job). It’s about understanding user needs. This can have an impact on the whole business model and features of a service. Common sense is useless when you’re not representative of the user of your product

if you want a degree, computer science. you can do braindead web developer shit for $100k in most cities without too much effort. it won't last forever but it's a good entry point into the field. and if you have the degree you will have the intelligence and academic background to pivot to more difficult, more secure sub-fields of software if you wanted to.

i fell for the accounting meme. accountants make shit money unless they work a ton of hours (in public accounting pulling 60-80 hours a week for half the year.) currently trying to do the learn2code meme.

>>24767497
ATC is by far the best government job. My dad was one in Pennsylvania and got 120k a year. Most secure job ever, and you're forced to retire at 55 with a FAT pension.
They say its stressful but they dont tell you that they in an 8 hour work day you only do 4 hours of actual work. 1 hour on one hour off all paid "to prevent it from getting too stressful". my dad would watch hours of movies a week on a laptop all on government dime.
You can abuse the paid leave and vacation time and overtime system so easily too. my dad was supposed to only make like 100k but made the extra 20k by working his balls off. Pretty based profession lots of military in it.
If youre lonely or just want to mix up life they can ship you out to be one in the middle east with the potential for 150k to 200k with like 8 years of experience.
Its becoming more selective as people are catching on so having a degree definitely helps

>>24775845
Whatever. I'll never respect that position

>>24771677
Go to Eastern Europe bro. 1.5-3k monthly. Fml

>>24775845
Kek it sounds like the marketing of the coding field to be honest anon. Just a job for self important roasties that don't add anything valuable yet except huge salaries

>>24767593
that guy is retarted the only thing you can do with history major is become a history teacher lol.

>>24776056
Exactly. It's a position made up for meeting quotas, gender mostly.
This position didn't exist until a few years ago and tech has always prospered regardless.

>>24769206
based as fuck

>>24776001

Who hurt you?

>>24767092
econometrics
finance
financial law
tax law(if EU)
business law
business administration
statistics

These majors have the highest salaries but you absolutely do not need to do these to have a good chance at becoming rich. Best chance is to do something you are good at and enjoy. Form a company and keep at it. The most important factor by FAR is to do something you are good at by nature and to work really hard to perfect that skill.

Don't be like me. Don't pick any of these majors for the money. It's a dead end. Do what you are good at (and preferably enjoy) and work really hard to become good at it.

>>24776237
No one. I'm just pissed off at the fact that such a useless job exists and that it's paid so well

>>24776115 “Cars are useless, we didn’t have them before and we could move around just fine”

>>24776311
I enjoy nothing, I just want money. Stop giving this retarded advice to people.

>>24776326

Right, so you’re frustrated that you can’t parade around with your STEM degree as much because tech has found a a way to bring cognitive science grads into the mix. I had a blast in school and I’m having a blast at work. And yes I get paid really well :)

I’m not sure what to do with my life, I feel like I’m in six figure hell: the career edition.

I’m a lawyer for a tech company. It’s a super cushy job I make about $160k total comp but there’s virtually no advancement possibility and my salary won’t go up beyond inflation.

I do almost nothing at my job which is great, and the idea of actually having a real job with real hours sounds terrible. But I still want more money - a lot more. I have a resume that I could take on the market and get over 200k easily, but I would risk getting a real job if I moved.

I have a law degree and a finance undergrad. I got accepted into a MSCS program because i have CS courses done. I might do it but I don’t really feel like going to school part time for something that might not pay off.

How do I increase my income without hugely increasing my responsibilities? I’ve kicked around the idea of an MBA instead but i already have a finance bachelors. Mostly I just trade shitcoins with my time.

Tl;dr: the richest major is doctors

>>24767092
Computer Science

A lot of retards will tell you that the field is oversaturated with pajeets, so you shouldn't do it. They're wrong. The field IS oversaturated with Pajeets, however, you don't study Computer Science to be a programmer for the rest of your life. You study Computer Science to understand how technology works. Then you get a job at a good tech company, which is easy to do with a CS degree early in your career.

The final step is to grind out that entry-level job for a year or two and then switch to a business role, like Business Architecture or Sales Engineering. At this point you are fairly well aware of how technology is used in industry, and you should work on the business side to gain skills that can make you useful in ANY enterprise.

tl;dr You don't study CS to be a codemonkey for your entire life. You study CS to get a good foothold in your career, and then from there you can do whatever the fuck you want.

>>24776422
This, get an MBA and move into management roles that involve no actual work except telling other people to work.

>>24767469
It's funny that's one of those obscure jobs I always heard about that pays like $1000 an hour or something because it's so specialized and risky.

The other day I was chatting with my neighbor. He does home renovations (contracting) for a living. He was telling me he did underwater welding for years but quit to fix houses instead and that he makes about the same amount.

Similar to most fields 9 billion asians have flooded the field and are willing to work for peanuts.

>>24776339
>>24776388
I get paid more than you and I have real skills. No one really respects your job.

>>24776464
Can you advise me here
>>24776402
Asking because CS+ MBA would be my route if i was planning now

>>24767879
Well i can't answer that definitively, but I can say the only first step is to close your browser and never come back here again. Why would you ask a bunch of losers how to be successful?

>>24767092
Gender studies, it's the only way to pay off your debt to society, women, and minorities

>>24776535
>niggercattle respect me
Irrelevant.

>>24776540
Read this on the 30th page of a FIRE forum, some guy went CS > BioCS > Manager of BioCS working in China for 500k.

>>24776535

Asides from the people regularly pouring six figures in my bank account ;)

I think I can live with crusty, socially disabled aspies not understandIng what we do

>>24776621
You are completely expendable since you have no skills or talent. I'm indespensible to my company and can't be replaced.
Stay retarded.

>>24776621
Holy shit what a faggot, imagine coping this hard about your pointless wageslave job when most people on here are millionaires from crypto

I guarantee you are either a roastie or a low test male feminist

>>24776698
>my company LOVES me like daddy never did!

>>24776708
Are you another ux/ui retard who convinced themselves their job is important?
Seethe

>>24776704

By the way you talk you sound like you’ve been brainwashed by this board. Go out and have a walk once in a while, it’s good for you.

>>24776839
Low test faggot confirmed

>>24776708

kek’d

finance you fucking idiot and start networking now

>>24776402
What kind of law do you practice? Why not work at a firm?

I'm a 2L now

>>24776947
Mostly tech transactions but in house you do a bit of everything.

If you need to ask why I don’t work for a firm you need to pay more attention in law school. Being a firm attorney is like being a doctor - the job consumes your life, and there is no such thing as free time.

I worked in firms for years before my current job. Would never go back.

>>24767092
just do computer science bro. It is so easy to earn shitton of money just by sitting on your fat ass all day at home

>>24776947
A guy who graduated from my law school starved death in his apartment in nyc and his body was eaten by rats. He had a fulltime lawyer job at the time.

>>24771731
ophtho is one of the chillest residency. super competitive to get into and pays really well for relatively lower risk areas of medicine

I don’t know what all these unemployed CS majors are talking about. I am an SWE making comfy 6 figures after going to a fucking 3 month bootcamp. This field is saturated with absolute retards who are in the spectrum, and being even remotely good at coding simply algorithms and can communicate like a normie guarantees you a fucking job. It’s ridiculous. It’s cushy as shit.

>>24769156
I can’t even find a fucking job rn because the entry level market is fucking brutal for CS. I’ve only been out of school since august but shit it’s tough.
I honestly don’t know what to do to land me a good paying job.

>>24767092
Thread TLDR anything can work from finance to pharmacology if you actually try to develop useful skills, but medicine and CS have a bit more of a bias to being “good enough” right out of school compared to most.

>>24777282
Try sucking cocks.

>>24777332
Maybe once I’m starving

Engineer undergrad, currently getting my MBA at a top 20 school. Success isn't determined by your schooling or pedigree, but really your own intelligence and drive, the latter being more important. I'd rather have drive over intelligence any day of the week. You need to do something you can love, and not for the cringe reason. You need to do something you can love because you will outlast and outwork every other guy doing it. Finding that is harder said than done and I've just begun to find that for myself.

I'd say getting an undergrad heavy in math (engineering) is good because it gives you a solid foundation on which you can build anything. That does not guarantee success though. You have to have a plan and build upon that foundation. I was a consultant and I know bankers - you work yourself to death for ultimately not enough money. Exits afterwards can be good but I don't think you will find happiness down that road which is what you are ultimately after.

Starting a business, joining a startup at the beginning, etc. is really the only way to make exponential returns. And investing with luck/intelligence. Once again, I think engineering/math sets you up for being able to run a biz because you've done the hardest major at school and anything outside of that is relatively easy. You have developed a problem solving mindset versus the fags that went to school to follow rules/regs.

>>24768998
I finished my round of interviews for an Ops GM position. Assuming I get the job, TC being about $160k, should I take it?

>>24771999
This is true. College is what you make of it. It's a wage slave machine for most people, but it can set you up for real success if you're savvy, driven, focused, and have a plan.

>>24767092
I studied physics, now one year out of college I make 300k in prop trading

>>24767092
All majors are retarded. Get a real estate license and gamble your commission.

>>24768118
Im an industrial eng major! Kind of an obscure eng major not a lotta ppl don’t know about, I got one year left and have no job experience and 2.8 gpa, i know im pretty fucked up but any advice?

23, graduated in May with a degree in Computer Engineering. Making $76k this year working for the DoD working in literal whoville. Being promoted to a GS-09 in January. Will be a GS-12/NH-III in 2022 as per my signing contract. I work as an electrical engineer on a cool-ass project, and only do ~10 hours of actual work a week. Getting a 2-day-a-week telework option starting in January as well. Life is about as comfy as it gets for just graduating.

>>24767092
>Best majors to go into to get rich?
Thats disgusting. Also stay away from army boys.

>>24772493
Teach me your ways
t. First year contractor scared shitless

>>24767432
Found the kid who couldn't handle premed

I'm a doctor. Yes it took a while to get her. But if you play your cards right you could have a great schedule like mine where I'm done by noon every day, and I have minions doing all the busy work for me. And then i make bank

>>24777885
How did you get in? USAJOBS? Do you have a Masters?

How do I graduate without being in debt? I have $15k saved up and no debt currently. Only interested in engineering

>>24767720
>>24767773
>zogbot training
OH NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>24767720
kek you'd be 27 just finishing your bachelors. This guys a fuckin boomer

>>24767229
If you're a minority or woman you will have a job right out of college making 75k as the token progressive employee

>>24778073
>Yes it took a while to get her
How long?
What age r u now sir?

>>24777487
based

>>24778073
if you're an american you spent 8 years of your life in school, busting your ass the entire time, for an average of about $300-400k debt @ 6% interest. and then you spent another 3-7 years working 70-100 hours a week in residency for $50-60k/year salary just to make what a 26 year old computer science graduate would make at a FAGMAN company. oh and also consider that you're a slave to CMS decisions, a slave to the insurance industry, a slave to hospital executives, and a slave to state licensing requirements.

medicine is for cuckholds.

>>24777097
As a young lawyer its good to hear outlook still the same as when I was at uni

>not diversifying into communication, and computer networking at junior college

>>24778167
lmao

>>24778251
Haha you couldn't get into med school

>>24768682
Yeah sure but not everyone wants to may gay sex videos for a living, faggot.

>>24771398
lazy engineer detected

>>24769206
Please tell me you didn’t sign the prenup? That old hag was laughing as you sucked on her grey haired flappy old cunt morning noon and night thinking you’d get more than a car out of it.

>>24778330

i dropped out of a private US MD school about 5 years ago because i hated every minute of it and the thought of spending 60-80 hours a week for the rest of my life doing "medicine" made me want to kill myself.

>>24778411
Haha
U mad im dabbin on yaaaaaaaa

>>24778485
want to know how i know you're an indian?

>>24777459
Any advice for me here
>>24776402

>>24767092
Go into CS. The demand is increasing, salaries are through the roof.

All engineering you can't really go wrong though. If you just want $ do technical sales.

Médecine is an obscenely large amount of work to be 29-31 before you start making money. If you're competent you'll make more money in engineering/tech.

Go to levels.fyi and check out faang swe work pay. You start at 135 base, 160k total comp with rsu.

>>24775845
UX is well paid.
But don't even try go get in if you're not gay or a woman.

The role exists merely to satisfy the woke requirements of investors.

>>24775945
>thinking anyone will ever hire a developer locally again.

>>24767092
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/slideshows/10-college-majors-with-the-highest-starting-salaries

M A T H

>>24778673
NOOOOOOOOOO

>>24778660
Hate to break it to you but once the vaccine roles out the WFH meme will be dead. At least for entry level roles.

>>24778797
rolls*

>>24778797
ngmi

>>24778924
ok. if you think the boomers at the top aren't going to start recalling faggots back in droves June 2021 you're wrong

EASILY ortho or dentist. But you'll have to take 8 years off to obtain it.

t. Brother is at NYU and the army is paying for 3 out of his 4 year degree ($300k paid for free). All he has to do is stay in the army for 3 years and he can do whatever he wants after.

>>24777487
>Go to a friend's graduation
>One guy out of everyone had a gpa of 3.9
>He majored in physics.

He's gonna be living the dream soon. Jesus christ he was smart.

>>24767092
Find something you enjoy and are willing to master that others are willing to pay for. Go to networking events at your school and contact people in your field for advice and whatnot.

There you go, the secret sauce to getting a career that won't kill you.

>>24779159
I enjoy nothing.

Find a skill you enjoy cultivating and get good at it. Don't go to school for the money. This is the only generic answer that will bring you happiness.

>>24778141
buy .75 btc, deposit into a blockfi account, have >$100k from that by 2026

>>24779323
that would be a loss since $100k in 2026 would be worth like $5k in 2020

>>24778546
I wouldn't do school part time, you're just getting an expensive, boring piece of paper at that time. I wouldn't suggest more school for you either. Sounds like you need to figure out what you actually want to do because you're contradicting yourself. You don't want to work more but you want to make more. MBA is definitely not that path, you will be out-worked and all post-MBA jobs are usually over 40hrs/week. Also, any non-top 10 MBA would for sure not be worth it for you. Idk what you're really complaining about, you don't work, you don't want to work, and you already have a cushy, well-paying job. Just keep investing until you figure out what actually motivates you.

>>24778411
you sound like the kid that got kicked out of our med school for sexual harassment and failing every class. He then goes and posts on his FB saying how he is "done with the bullshit." You sound exactly like this guy. Just kys bro

25, Not that smart. Fell for the big data meme -> Current phd stats always regretted not doing computer science.
On track for 100k in savings by end of phd. 200k applied scientist tech job lined up.
Top Hedge fund summer internship lined up from university connections. Probably bound to fail it but doing it for money.
Did I lose the game or am I alright?

>>24776402
some people like you are just never satisfied. i could make miracles happen with $160k a year on a job that doesn't completely consume my brainpower

Anything that isn't piracy is cuckoldry unironically.

>>24767092
I majored in accounting and have a 60k starting salary at big 4. The busy season hours are bad, but you're guaranteed to hit six-figures within 5 years.

>>24768922
What if you don’t have military or LE expierence? Because early on black water hired people without wxpierence too

>>24779717
Sorry bro, unless you have 3MM by 15 and a 800K job out of college your NGMI.

>Go military
Hahahaha, you are fucking pathetic.
I'd rather be a wagie for big corps than fucking taking even a slither of a chance of dying FOR THEM.
Cope more poor ass militaryfag

>>24779829
>The busy season hours are bad, but you're guaranteed to hit six-figures within 5 years.
The problem being that the hours during busy season never really go down and the comp doesn't really go much higher than low 6 figures.

>>24779869
I know this is sarcasm but I legitimately regret some of my decisions. Feel like I would be cruising life if I went the software engineering life instead of grinding with relatively little money currently

>>24779923
I cannot take you seriously because I could FIRE with 150k where I live.

>>24772493
What are the tasks you do? Also what if you haven’t had military experience or le expierence? Because blackwater early on hired military, LE, and people who zero experience

>Economics/finance
Unless you are good at networking or go to an Ivy or other target (Standford, Chicago, etc) this is waste of time. You'll end up settling for an accounting job or selling insurance or mutual funds. These can all make you six figures. I know two guys who make 2-300K a year selling State Farm. But it's a shitty life. You will marry an ugly girl who barely loves you and will cheat on you. No one will take you seriously and you'll think a week long trip to South Beach is the peak of "making it."

If you do go to one of those schools and/or can network, then you can go into banking and kill yourself for 2-5 years as an analyst and then associate and then you dip out and leave for the buy side or for middle management for a F500 company. In the former, you still work long hours but not as bad and in the latter you have easy hours but make less. In the former you can spin your own firm or just make a fat bonus and retire early and in the latter you can rise up the ladder to become a C-suite or C-suite adjacent.

>CS/IT
You will get a grunt job maintaining code, for years. If you don't do side work you will be destined to cap out at low 6-figures, but unlike the accountants and insurance salesmen above, your girlfriend will be hotter and instead of cheating she'll demand an open marriage. If you are creative enough to create apps/websites/programs on the side then you can make a boatload of cash if you're either lucky or a hustler, otherwise it will exist in obscurity with a 3.5 rating on an app store.

>Anything other degree
You will be middle class with an average wife and retire at 65-68 with a decent retirement. You will pick up golf just to have something to do on Saturdays and vacation in Fort Lauderdale and talk about your "international trip" to the Bahamas.

>Trade School
If you're lazy, you'll have a lower middle class life and if you're a hustler you'll realize there's literally no risk in starting your own business and make tons.

>>24780246
FAGMAN is starting 200k.

>>24778103
I did have to use USAJOBS for a portion of the hiring process, there were like 6 sites and it was a complete clusterfuck. They recruited me at a campus job fair. Honestly that's the easiest way unless you know somebody working already

>>24778611

The fuck does that even mean

>>24779829
there's a reason why people leave right after making senior. it's absolute fucking wageslavery.
>he fell for the 1 busy season a year meme

>>24778103
And no, I do not have a Masters, although my particular program would like to pay for me to pursue one. I'm not sure whether or not to take that offer since I'm not entirely decided on how long I'm staying.

>>24772286
Military allows for all your money to go into crypto. Take the 40k navy nuke bonus. Put all in crypto and do 6 and out as a nuke. Qualify EWS and you can take any 100k a year STEM job for nukes you want or go into civi nuclear and get a 170k before overtime SRO ez job after 2 years. With zero debt. Also your degree is 75% done while you are in and you finish it while working as an RO for two years making 100k+. Navy nuke is better than college in every way. I know nukes who walk out into 300k/yr jobs for server farms with no degree. Former Nuke is desirable as fuck, you can literally walk into any STEM job you want post military.

>>24780536
You can invest over 200K before you get out without debt and walk into a medium six figure job with minimal networking and finish the degree as you get out. You will outearn your college bound engineer peers too. I only suggest this for 18-20 year olds though.

>>24780577
why do americans whine so much if all they have to do to be set for life is join the military and go to college for STEM afterwards?

>>24781180
Because they are idiots. The networking from military rivals Ivy league networking if you do it right. Especially for Nuke/Intel/STEM/SF. You can get 3/4 or more of your degree done if you go AF/Navy since they give way more college credits than the other branches.
People are lazy as fuck and don't want to work hard for 4-6 years and reap the benefits for the rest of their lives.
It also really is choose your rate (job) choose your fate. Unless you go intel/stem/sf/nuke its a shitty deal to join for most.

>>24767720
>Go military
I can feel the FOMO in this post.

>be me
>21
>Degree in “Information Systems”
>$50,000 a year salary as a “Network Engineer”

I get paid to supercopy phones in Cisco call manager, and reset routers....

Putting $700+ a month into LINK

>It ain’t much but it’s honest work...

>>24781277
He's on the right track but wrong in general. The military is near worthless unless you pick the right job. I have two friends making 300k, one at Bain Capital the other in a server farm. The Bain one went to an Ivy and partied all four years. The Ivy networking got the job. The Nuke got the job from another former nuke.
See the common theme. Networking. As long as you working in a desirable field, the networking is what makes a difference. This is the reason I shill joining the military in a desirable field. It is on par with going to an Ivy, but actually attainable since most of you people don't have the grades or get in.

>>24778975
Der globalist boomer Carl ze schwab zhinks otherwise. It's just 200 pages pamphlet and you'll get a grasp of what is cooking up

>>24781398
Agreed. The other key ingredient in my eyes is opportunity cost. If you're looking at six and out as a nuke, you better get lucky as to your orders and rate placement and have someone explain the ins and outs of the rates to you beforehand and have the line scores to have a fighting chance at ET or be likeable enough to get ELT as a mechanic. Otherwise you're on a sub that refuses to promote e-4 nukes as an electrician watching shipyard .gov workers do your job with many times the hourly rate, minus any stress, minus the hours, and with overtime to boot.

>>24771027
definitely taleb. I think it's Black Swan, but could be Fooled by Randomness.

>>24775998
ATC is all the best perks of blue collar work (hourly pay, pension, TSP, overtime, sick and annual leave separate, good union protections, OSHA/NTSB mandates about break time vs time on position, employees are all casual as fuck, jeans an tshirt every day regardless of shift, etc) in a comfy white collar environment.

The only downside is you're going to work on holidays (no big deal, it's never more than 8 hours, plus you get paid double), and nights/weekends (10% more pay after 6pm, sundays are 25% more and yes they stack)
Even if you do nothing else on the side (everyone does though) retirement age is mandatory at 56, and you collect pension plus unemployment, then get TSP and social security on top of that. But you 100% can retire after 25 years in regardless of age. You just miss some % on the pension and can't do the unemployment scam.

>>24771671
That would not fit in my printer

>>24781373
sounds like europe

>>24779829
Kek that's how they sucker chumps like you in, with false promises that things will get better. It will take a couple of years, but they WILL break you and turn you into a soulless wageslave husk

How about NOT sacrificing the best years of your life doing endless mundane shit for a few extra shekels? It's not like it's difficult to make money in crypto for example, you have more options now than ever

>>24775629
I think I would seriously enjoy urban planning. Whenever I read the name of a location I instantly open google maps and explore the area, streetview the downtown, see how the surrounding areas are laid out, etc. I'm also fascinated by the way municipalities function. States, counties, towns, jurisdictions, absorptions, regulations, departments. I could read about it all day. I have some kind of bizarre city autism

>>24768024
>>24778172
>sissies who didn't go military don't know you can do college while in
They literally have people sit in a room with you and make it so easy to get college credits because you get cut slack. You don't pay rent, the military gives you 1300-1500 a month for rent alone if you're not living in barracks. You don't pay for health insurance if you do four years for the rest of your life. You don't even pay food if you go to the cafeterias they have on base. It's all disposable income if you're not retarded and buy shitty cars or stupid over priced clothing like the younger guys do.

Engineering + math double major or minor
Engineering jobs seem to pay well. You'll get business related jobs over finance majors because you'll look more intelligent. Youll likely qualify for most masters programs and professional programs if you want to go back to school.

>>24780536
>>24780577
You've obviously never been a nuke. They give out 40k bonuses because the job is shit. The nukes I know are depressed and suicidal and want nothing more than to quit.

>>24780536
I'm a submarine ET nuke right now. This job is so fucking bad. I make less than 30k/ year as an E4. I'll get housing allowance and move out of the barracks soon (4 year mark). I didn't reenlist so I only got 12k bonus total, advancement to E5 is only 5% right now. My boat is stuck in shipyard so the job is almost completely administrative with barely any operations. I work 80+ hours a week with 24 hour "duty days" every third day. I really advise against joining, there's much better options.

Any major can work. FAANG will give you a boost early in career but ageism starts kicking in hard around 35. Unless you move into Sales or Management, you are fucked.

Comparatively benefits of medicine starts kicking in as you age. Your experience and education creates an entry barrier, similar to CFA. But you have to be smart. GP or Surgeon both are bad. Get into speciality. Like Neurology. A neurologist recently charged me 450$/30min session in Sydney. Worldwide med professional are highest tax payers.

On startups, it’s actually your luck and risk perception and network effect. All of these can be increased if you are already wealthy or beyond wage slavery from a familial background. SV is the new Hollywood. Few makes it, most go to oblivion.

Best way so far, as some anons recommended, is to get a “comfy” job channeling your aspirations into side hustle and/or investing. If your aspirations burn you out quickly your future income streams are at risk. Think this as a Discounted Cash Flow model where “career stress/burnout” need to be factored out.

That “comfy job” can be anything - from Gov IT jobs to Project Management to Neurologist. It’s up to you tendencies and capacity to reach there. Money is what you not earn in 10 years of your stressful FAANG job, it is how to cleverly ensure stability of future cash flows till you make it.

>>24776621
>>24776698
>>24776704
This lol. It really is pathetic to see wageslaves that have been brainwashed to be PROUD of their chains haha.

>>24782802
>40k bonuses
NOW they do. For everyone reading this guy's post, he's right. They used to do 10-12k but retention is so shit that they had to up it to 30-40k very recently, like a year or two ago. In nuke school, we had 3-4 suicides a year and that was the ones they told us about and that was just at school which is the easiest point in the pipeline. In shipyard, there's an expectation of more than a few suicides or at least attempts from the whole crew, not just nukes.

>>24782802
retard. I'm an MMN, just don't be a bitch with the Tack hours or quals. You have to be extremely mentally strong to make it though. I should have mentioned that, I'll give you that.

>>24782840
That's why I'm surface no offense. I would not sub vol, maybe if I had got ELT.

>>24782802
NNPTC in the 80's had over 60 suicides a year. Nuke suicide rate back then made the death chance of suicide higher than almost if not all the combat rate death rates. Fucking brutal lol

>>24773936
jesus christ will you shut the fuck up you annoying retard. go outside

Don’t do medicine if you want to make money quick. It is a brutal uphill battle.

source: will be doctor in a few months

>>24783197
*NFAS, nnptc wasn't around back then

>>24767092

Petroleum engineering by FAR is the highest undergrad exit.

Good coders are very well paid and you will always have a job.

Why the fuck did I pick accounting. Can any britbongs recommend an easy/lucrative field I can switch too.

>>24777253
I have a community college programming cert and I just landed a swe gig. Its a shitty indian consulting company though so I don't make jack

>>24782706
If you love the military so much why don't you marry it?

>>24777282
If you suck at coding yea. I don't even have a cs degree and I got a job

>>24767720
this post is so jewish

>>24783330
CS

Regarding CS, all of this forced diversity has affected it more than anything else over the last 5 or so years, but now that diversity quotas have been filled, I am getting more interest than ever before. I am positive this is because my name is not Rajeet and people understand that I can actually do the job.

>>24777282
Well yea that's because the CS degree itself isn't actually worth all that much anymore. You basically need job experience or just do programming on your free time to have a portfolio of projects to show them. Most companies are really only interested in people who program as a hobby so basically they want you to work for free to develop your skills for your job.

>>24775945
>i fell for the accounting meme. accountants make shit money unless they work a ton of hours
you and me both buddy, the biggest meme i've ever fucking seen. It's a shit soul-crushing job that doesn't even pay
well. Kinda fucked my life up becoming an accountant, now i'm 25 years old and have nothing to look forward to.

>>24771671
You need to put pics up in one of the other boards and link it cause that sounds stupid huge and I wanna see.

>>24783330
accounting is such a meme, so many bongs like yourself and me fall for it. Even the lawyers are way better off down the line. We're pretty much fucked, too late to get into another field unless you want to go back to university.

Anons quit falling for these bullshit threads, SENT is the real gem.

>>24767092
Went to school for political science and I learned to code in python, C, and R on the side. Got an econ minor and learned a lot about stats and math myself and landed a job in data analytics. Majors are pretty useless imo, just learn skills in every area you can to a level where you can pass an exam i said area. If you have a CS major great your major will teach you a few more skills then my major did (which gave me almost none lmao), but if you only walk out with CS skills your a pleb.

>>24767092
When you say preferably no math, that’s the ngmi signal. Every person I know with fuck you money is good af with math and numbers.

So just pick any major really, or start warming up to numbers.

Also most of the folks I know that are wealthy bounced out of college and hustled their way up. Good luck with your path, anon.

Bahahaha, making 6 figures a year, working 6 mos a year as a fucking plumber, laughing at you dumbasses with 100k student loans while I take my biannual vacations to different countries around the world.

Idk about you OP, but here's my plan:

>Be me
>Love all nuclear power related things since I was 12
>Currently studying towards a nuclear engineering MEng
>Thinking what the hell I'm going to do with my life
>Want to make good money and not be a slave
>EU passport, so never going to be able to enter the US unless I'm lucky and win the Green card lottery
>Thinking of specialising in nuclear decomissioning
>Move to France since they have so many nuclear plants there
>France is going to enter a decomissioning spree soon since these are so old and aging
>I'm going to setup my own consulting firm and rent out my services to EDF

Thoughts?

>>24767529
Same boat. Autist but not good with numbers. Absolutely doomed.

>>24785516
University of Birmingham?

If you are trying to get rich going to college and you are worries about your degree you are doing it wrong. No body gives a shit about what you study. Its who you know. Go to college to make connections, not get a degree.

>>24776583
>Read this on the 30th page of a FIRE forum
Which FIRE forum?

>>24767229
admission at my CS major has been stable the last few years and is declining
the degree isn't memed that much anymore
but this comes at a time where GAFA are working to destroy the job market so meh

>>24785618
One of the many r/fire subreddits. Either a german one or the european one.

>>24783656
I'm a black cs major, am I good?

>>24785585
Nah, university of Sheffield

>>24779589
Thanks. I largely agree except the cost of the degree is small for me so that’s not a relevant factor.

>>24779788
Please tell me what you would do with my freedom. I honestly don’t know what to do with it

>>24772868
how though?
Sounds interesting tbqh

>>24785731
If you're a halfway decent coder then yea

>>24785731
The diversity crusade is attacking upper management now. If you want to use your niggerness to your advantage you should try to climb the corporate ladder quickly.

>>24785731
Get the fuck off my board nigger

>>24785515
Specifically a LICENCED plumber. Everyone thinks plumbers are low IQ types who change toilets. Those are mechanics who work for the plumber who actually has the license.
Pretty much all the jobs gen x, millennials, and zoomers were taught to stick their nose up at do better than most of the things they leave college to do. Electricians, plumbers, contractors, they all make bank. Especially now where everyone and their mother wants a drywall palace new construction built in under 6 months.

The biggest joke is the teacher threatens you growing up, that if you don't pay attention you'll end up being a garbage man. The punchline is the garbage man makes 3x what she makes before overtime.

>>24786509
My drain corroded through and I can’t unscrew the damn chrome drain. I bought that gold plug that goes down into the drain but I still can’t unscrew it. It’s hard after. Wat do bro?

>>24786578
YouTube is your friend.

>>24773936
LOL THIS WAS MY FREE STOCK holy shit, based chad

>>24786509
The thing that worries me is that now people will all be studying to get into trade school, and soon enough the market will be oversaturated with supply of licenced plumbers and electricians.
It's a bit like that quote where an investor right before the great depression crash goes to get his shoe polished, and the kid polishing his shoe talks to him about how the stock market is doing so great. The investor then goes and sells everything right before the crash. I feel like we are in a similar situation with people recommending trade school

>>24778797
>>24778811
rolling

>>24767229
>Yea CS seems oversaturated as fuck
define what "seems saturated" means

If you simply see a lot of people (trying to) get into it, that's not necessarily saturated. Just about all companies want to be companies in some form in 2020, so there is massive demand in addition to entrepreneurial options

>>24778073
>I'm a doctor. Yes it took a while to get her. But if you play your cards right you could have a great schedule like mine where I'm done by noon every day, and I have minions doing all the busy work for me. And then i make bank

While that's obviously pretty good in the overall context, it does indeed get btfo by software eng. Someone that just went into high end tech work is looking at potentially being done with work (period; not by noon each day) by the time you're just getting started.

Software engineers are simply permitted to do valuable, scalable work at a young age (making the $ worth even more over time). The reason being that we're allowed to have a higher error rate in tech, while still providing high $ value

>>24778330
>Haha you couldn't get into med school
lol>>24778251

>>24782706
yuropoor here. I would totaly do that if I was american
sadly our military only has shitty degrees, no permanent benefits and pays less than any arts degree at a free university if you move to the us.

>>24778660
>>thinking anyone will ever hire a developer locally again.
the software industry already tried offshoring in the early 2000s

Water technology/ waste water management, no schooling only earn state certificates via testing

>>24775629
If you studied it to be given a job you retarded.
But if you use it to run your own business, find land that can be developed, buying the land, knowing what it's developed value will be, designing the development to get planning applications, etc...
Writing the rigged contract with the land owner, the money you can make is infinite. But you're a retard, so goodluck

>>24786888
I don't think that's true. Trades in this country have been plummeting when it comes to skilled professionals because the public education system is designed to set anyone mechanically minded up for failure. 12-13 years of being told blue collar is for stupid people and you need to go to college and you need to get a 4 year degree and you NEED to get into crippling debt by 22 is social engineering at it's finest.
Schools have made a point to phase out and cancel shop and other metal/wood working programs that taught kids how they could succeed while still using their hands in favor of unapplied math/science or athletics. Colleges don't want semi-smart kids with good bodies thinking they can succeed with anything but sports, because college athletics is a billion dollar industry. Meanwhile someone who's got a brain in their head but likes working hands on? They turn into your burned out B students, because 20 teachers barely cracking 50k/year tell them you cannot succeed doing that anymore.

If there's an industry that's going to be absolutely saturated it's comp sci. Work from home is going to accelerate this when companies realize they can hire five pajeets remotely for the cost of one smartass coder in the states.

>>24777282
you were supposed to build a project portfolio and work shitty internships while you were in school.

>>24767225
is a good choice for an undergraduate degree if you're planning on going to law school