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first for australia

MMEDF & NUMI are like buying TSLA in 2013

i bought moon instead of arkk is this retarded? im thinking of going all in arkk but now i think its retarded because whenever im about to fomo into something it means thats the top god fucking damn it i cant believe how much its gone up

I put a large short term hedge on my 35,000 PTON long position yesterday. Purchased 250 Nov expiation monthly puts at the $140 strike. Want to let everyone know since it’s such a prominent position we discuss often. I feel the PTON information we have been trading is mostly disseminated fir the short term. Long term I think there is still significant opportunity to arbitrate the generational thesis of connected home fitness taking over the world in a way few still believe it will

what the fuck does this mean? what's a hedge? what's a put with 140$ expiry? is this bullish for peloton? is he buying more or shorting temporarily?

>>24771992
if you're holding long-term, just buy it

Did kpopfag finally stop sperging out?

>>24772004
im thinking of putting a shit load of money in like a retard but im new to stocks and everything scares me

>>24772008
prolly got banned i saw a lot of deleted posts

Why was there a thread gap you idiots are getting worse I swear

>>24772010
if you're worried about a dip, then dca into it

Whats do you have on PLTR and TELOS. Palantir went down like 10% when they made their IPO and soon after went up to 30. you think the same will happen with TELOS? +their cyber security General as a board memeber Anyone?

am i fucked if im thinking about getting gains as fast as possible? i dont really have a lot of time i need a fucking house SOON im sick of being a loser

>>24772083
yes, trading emotionally will ruin you

anyone know anything about the VALE nickel Tesla deal going on?

will it happen? will it moon? or will EV no longer need nickel soon?

>>24772083
Trading to get a house quickly is probably the worst way to go about trading anon. That being said, go all in on weekly options on an incredibly volatile stock.

>>24772119
yeah stocks are only for rich people im just hoping for a miracle this sucks

How long do I have to bag hold GME? $15 average and I don't want to miss the airline and real estate boom after covid. I also want to buy the SPCE dip when it tanks on monday after the launch failed.

>>24772171
>yeah stocks are only for rich people
Uhh no that's not true at all. But trying to get rich quick isn't exactly easy or everyone would do it. Unless you're CLFfaggot, but not all of us have a super smart brother to spoonfeed us stock plays.

>>24772195
is that how he gets his stock picks? so he gets to just sit around and smoke weed while some genius gives him the answers and he never has to work or do anything?

I FUCKING HATE MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>24772173
Until the squeeze happens

>>24772213
Yikes, so never?

>>24772219
Q4 earnings

>>24772210
Yeah it was exposed on stocktwits the other day. CLFfag is super salty about it too and pretends its not true.

you retarded niggers with autism are buying boomer stocks that everyone has heard about and every positive expectation is already priced in for next 3 years lmao. you might some shitty 20% short term gain from normal price swings at best

dont come sperging here about how nobody told you about shroom stocks when MMEDF gets listed on nasdaq this or next month and goes to 50$

>>24772236
can i see the screen shot of this?

>>24772226
>3 months
Guess I'll sell now and buy back later.

I'm sitting on 207 shares of American Airlines. I'll probably hold them for a year for the tax benefit and to let my gains appreciate.

Am I going to make it?

>>24772249
I don't have it, but don't worry it will pop up plenty in the near future, because plenty of other anons do.

>>24772252
I'd consider just DCA it until Q4 earnings, currently I'm in 15% of my portfolio but not buying more since rest of my portfolio is in some option contracts.

this weekend shit fucking SUCKS how do wagies even do this shit if its closed on weekends?

>>24772336
Wagie chiming in, I'm just happy to not be working so the market being closed is tolerable.

if elons musk net worth is tied in with the tesla stock price does that mean if the stock crashes does he lose his second richest person status?

i wonder if he bought calls in his stock years ago like a chad

>>24772386
look at the news he is the third richest person because of the price dipping a bit.

>>24772401
is there a chance it can keep going up because his net worth depends on it? or is it really just another bubble?

>>24772386
Technically yes. I'm not sure if musk bought calls for his own company or not considering he most definitely said he thinks the stock price is way higher than it should be. But he has also baited shorters on several occasions so who knows.

>>24772418
isnt baiting people to short a stock a crime?

Going to grab some DENN boys, you guys want anything?

>>24772428
Telling shorters to lick your bussy is completely legal. Although he did get investigated by the SEC for it kek.

>>24772414
its the most overvalued entity in recorded history. if it does it wont be on any fundamental value.

>>24772083
>am i fucked if im thinking about getting gains as fast as possible? i dont really have a lot of time i need a fucking house SOON im sick of being a loser
40% arkk, 40% arkg, 10% options in arkk, and 10% options in a meme stock. Just put your toe in the retard investing water.

>>24772474
ive been thinking really heavily about ARKK i bought clf calls and shares before everyone else here listened to clf chad and i have some gme

>>24772484
>ive been thinking really heavily about ARKK i bought clf calls and shares before everyone else here listened to clf chad and i have some gme
Hold on you got clf calls early and you want a bigger moonshot? Dude I doubled my portfolio on clf options, you really need to appreciate things like that.

>>24772505
i dont know what im doing i only got a couple hundred in it cause im just using play money while i learn stocks i would like a long term hold like ARKK too

>>24772472
> promise investors to deliver more cars
> stock price increases
> reduce the price of the cars to sell more cars
> worse margins and more losses
> finance the losses with the stock market

It is a huge ponzi scheme that will collapse soon

>>24772471
I thought he got in trouble for saying he will take tesla privat at $420? Elon is pretty based, ngl.

>>24771957
>be me, 23
>just graduated from business administration + law
>finishing law school
>doing ok
>discover the stock market
>spend hours per day reading about stocks, news, economy
>literally never did this with law or BA unless forced by deadlines
>at a fucking crossroads right now as I feel that I like it so much I would be a happy man going to work

I mean good morning, /smg/, have a nice sunday

>>24772564
use the degree to make money and throw it in stocks. yep college sucks but might as well now

>>24771973
This anon is going to make it

>>24772522
Oh yeah that's what it was.
>>24772564
Anon everyone loves gambling, it's a fact of life.

>>24772510
oh good hes selling promises on depreciating assets and sentiment cant see that ever going poorly. there is nothing sustainable about their business model or their cars for that matter hell even sourcing the materials for the cars has been an issue for the company.

>>24772564
Pick one way and run as hard as you can until you like it, or change you it, or you’re able to do both.

>>24772386
Exactly. And Tesla is in a huge bubble so he will drop from the top 100. His fortune isn't real because he can't cash out it

Just put some calls on VLDR and BB. Have no idea how to do covered calls and don't want to lose out on profit.

Anyone else got money down on VLDR and BB?

>>24772600
why doesnt he just cash out? does he have to do it really slow and keep his majority share?

>>24772570
>>24772579
>>24772587
Is it too late to apply to a fund? they only hire mathematicians, economists or people with a certain profile. I'm afraid I'm not specialized enough, but I don't want to be an old man and think wow maybe this was my thing :(

Essemmgee my eyelashes are looking a little long. I’ve never noticed that before. Am I supposed to trim them?

>>24772623
bruh just work your shitty boring job and buy stocks

>"UK-EU agree to 'go the extra mile' in Brexit talks"
ah yes, back up we go FTSE bros

>>24772607
The company is so overvalued because people like sucking Elons dick. If he started selling a lot of shares people would realise that it's a scam and the price would implode.
Tesla without Elon as a CEO is worth absolutely nothing. It's valued completely on a scammers hype ability to bring normies to his stocks, somehow manipulating them into thinking they are investing in Space X too

imagine not owning at least 100k shares of FEYE before it moons XDDDDD

>>24772626
Also kek at GameStop desperate lack of strategy, they sent me emails begging me to take surveys. GameStop tryna be big data

>>24772643
can you imagine if spacex ipo'd?
shit, the sm would gigaimplode explode armagedon cataclyism 42069edeath

>>24772707
how is it making money? mining asteroids and shit?

>>24772623
You're already balls deep in college just keep doing what you're doing. I tried to chase dreams in college too and it ended up costing me a lot of money, don't be retarded.
>>24772637
Good my SPYCEY RYCEY needs it.

>>24772707
Tbh I think that Space X won't make incredible amounts of money.
Thinking that they will make colonizing other planets, mine asteroids etc its just utopically retarded. Companies based on space like SpaceX and Virgin Galactic are a meme made to fool normies.

>>24772606
>>24772606
pls validate me frens

>>24772769
Doubt.

It will inevitably become a profitable avenue, even if isnt one right now.

>>24772837
Based on what exactly?

>>24772837
i heard on youtube they found some gold asteroid with basically unlimited value. wonder if that will ever work out

>>24772865
If you find incredible amounts of gold, gold drops in value.

>>24772821
Have a sad cum bb

This week is probably a good time to continue speculating on TGTX, DBX, and UPS

>>24772752
dont get me wrong i will finish law school jan '22 but iI'dlove pursuing this investing passion :(

>>24772902
why ups?

>>24772918
Just do both so you can retire twice as fast.

>>24772918
bro investing is investing you use money to invest the job is to get money. start investing now

>>24772859
Anon google what starlink is

Imagine not holding for years the next booming sector
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mindmed-creating-tesla-mental-health-143849890.html

>>24772990
the fact of the matter is white people hate drugs and natural healthy things more then fucking anything on the planet and theyll ruin it by any means possible

>>24772989
Overpriced internet than most countries can't afford, and won't even bother because current internet is more than enough for 99% of people?

>>24772999
gamers need ethernet cable connected to their urethra for 0 ping just mind connected to the net

What options are you considering? Pic related for me. Going to be my first options play so only throwing like $400 at it

>>24773170
I consider 0 options jut buy and sell shars have a good day

PFE
not going to the moon??

>>24773183
my clf options went up 100% in one day lol

>>24772564
fucking same shit for me
> start computer science degree
> fell for the "just learn to code" meme
> Corona happens
> start investing in the stock market
> spend 90% of my time in the stock market
> don´t enjoy all the other tasks

>>24773170
All in 12/18 $370 SPY calls.

>>24773215
i spent 5 years of my life producing music and finally got good and now i dont know how the fuck id make money with it and spend all day refreshing stock shit

>>24772989
kek, he still falls for the Musk memes

>>24773215
>>24773232
Same except 'm also shit at stocks.

>>24773275
when someone posts a 6 figure portfolio listen to them

Ogey, fine I made a schwab account and I'll buy MMDEF.

>>24773232
the thing is that the stock market is a fucking competition, you compete vs millions of retards and institutions every day. You get flooded with hormones if you beat the market, just like in a real competition.

>>24773302
why do you gotta make it weird

>>24773215
>>24773232
>>24773275
The stock market this year has been the most volatile its been in a decade. It will be immensely boring when it settles down.
It is also likely there will be a face ripping shift that makes it not as fun with losses.

Won't be long until just the right animal gives it back to us.

Plague 2.0 is coming soon.

Then we can finally get March crash 2.0 and rake in profits ;).

>>24773282
I listened to CLF Chad but I'm still waiting for my gains. He said this shit was going to $20 before Feb.

>>24773322
wont calls basically be the same shit? is this why theres so many normies got in it?

Why is it that I actually got less money from selling dogecoin at a slightly higher price?

>>24773350
theres so many fucking fees in crypto its obviously a scam

>>24772108
Musk is changing the battery to 33% manganese. If you Google that you can see a video of him talking about it. There is only one mine in north America that is setting up for manganese. MN.V. On Friday they appointed Roger dahn as chair of board.

Jeff Dahn is in charge of battery research for Tesla, he happens to be the brother of Roger Dahn Director at Manganese X. The dots are connecting. Do you think Tesla will import manganese from Europe or Africa or have it shipped from Canada? Time will tell.

How to stop going all in on every trade? What are some books about trading and learning to be patient?

>>24773324
god fucking damn it dude fucking chinese

>>24773324
If there’s another crash similar to March 2020 I don’t think we will recover as fast as we did this year

>>24773250
>Space X invented the Space and internet! And will colonize mars! They will mine asteroids full of gold and diamonds and they will beat the Nazi aliens! Also Teslas will soon be able to drive interplanetarily while cleaning the air and producing free energy in the process!

>>24772932
Vaccine rollout, 20% of the time I walked by the muted tv in the hotel lobby it was advertising UPS and FedEx on msnbc or local news or whatever.

We’re in a different market now. I didn’t realize how important it was that Robinhood forced the industry to take a free to trade model. Stupid things can move the market more than usual. Also I’m generally bullish on UPS with the new CEO.

Can CRAR recover soon?

>>24773366
Interesting, so is this MN.V a buy? They'll probably just get it from some chink supplier though, cause Xi will say buy chink or leave china.

>>24773391
Depends on the size of QE & Stimulus. If we have a Cares Act 2.0, we're defintely going to an area of the stock market where evaluations don't matter for even a second.

Might get downright scary. Imagine Tesla @ 1,200-2,200, Apple @ 400 & Amazon @ 7,000. GME @ 190....

Not to mention Gold & Bitcoin.

>>24773418
UPS sucks right now. They have old warehouses, lots of debt and constantly spend money. I would invest in something else. Go with HYLN.

>>24773500
>HYLN

Lol
>GameStop Is Closing Over 1,000 Stores by March
https://bestlifeonline.com/gamestop-closing/
I told you retards to just buy Amazon but noooo, you know better

>>24773322
Yeah desu if I couldn't make it in this market I will never make it, probably gonna kill myself after this.

>>24771957
https://youtu.be/g2k8Qq5UtZo

I’m bagholding CRSR calls is this shit ever going back up?

>>24773526
>>GameStop Is Closing Over 1,000 Stores by March
>https://bestlifeonline.com/gamestop-closing/
>I told you retards to just buy Amazon but noooo, you know better
Is this bullish?

>>24773526
this is depressing i really dont like the thought of living in a world without video game shops

>>24773576
>this is depressing i really dont like the thought of living in a world without video game shops
The year is 2030 and you will be explaining to your android children what a store was.

>>24773560
its the worst stock ive ever seen

What's a good nuclear stack?
I have 700 RR and 250 UUUU already. I want to dump another 2 grand between the mining/power sector and hold long term.

Hey what happened in the stock market after TARP 2.0 passed?

>>24773500
>namefag
>double zero
Yeah nah fuck off im not sitting at your roulette table

>stock market where evaluations don't matter for even a second.
What is your first language?

>>24773576
>27 posts out of 115

>>24772932
Oh also e-commerce fuckin obviously

The SPCE flight got aborted lol.

>>24772752
RYCEY - Also U.K govt agrees on bailout package for hardest hit industries. Combined with the "cure" rolling out this makes for an exciting time to get profit. Reminder: before COVID this was 8+ solid. Now it's at 1.66. Hell even if you bagged at 2.12 your still looking a nice upside.

>>24773526
Y’all a bunch of know it all COOMERS
I told you guys that Amazon WILL kill every single retail and mom and pop shop. The corona meme only made this process faster.

>>24773624
kys anime faggot

>>24773595
>"It's where 3D women went to buy expensive clothes and overpriced bags."
>"What's a 3D woman, master-sama?"
Yes, please.

>>24773523
Literally the only EV that hasn't pumped in 3 months.

At it's lowest evaluations.

The slightest bit of good news is going to send this stock flying.

Only 2 legit Tractor EV Semi's: Tesla and Hyliion.

Most importantly: UPS, FedEx, Amazon, all have natural gas fueling stations inside their hubs. Can't stress how important this is.

>>24773526
I’m fucked
Time to commit sudoku

>>24773659
It hasn't pumped for a reason. And the EV meme is dead now.

>>24773618
CCJ
NXE
Spicy Junior Memes: WSTRF, FCUUF
/biz/ memes (because it has an option chain): UUUU
>>24773634
And Disney will kill literally all entertainment,

>>24773662
lol isnt this the second time you lost everything on calls?

>>24773659
Bullish for PLUG 2baich

>>24773652
Don’t cry for me friend, I’m already dead

>>24773324
Who else thinks that it will mutate to a deadlier variation (((unexpectedly))) and the vaccines won't work against the new virus this winter? We will drop way lower than in march

>>24773633
I'm in at $2.17. I bought after the initial dump so it could be worse.
>>24773654
>what's a 3d woman daddy?
>Nothing worth talking about son.

>>24773526
Bullish for GME

>>24771957

Hey that charts like mine!

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/CLF

Tfw bought 850 shares of RYCEY at 1.69. Will I ever make gains on this

Can someone tell me the basics of how to find and buy weed?

>>24773560
You're such a retard if you didn't realize crsr was just a squeeze fueled by reddit and some zoomer investor hype. If you read the basics of investing your realize it's something wallstreet will never take seriously. Get out now.

>>24773860

Download Tinder and make a girl portfolio with the description "looking for gas"

Watch the messages roll in

>>24773860
I gather you need to find something called a plug

>>24773876
>squeeze
was it even possible to short crsr before the pump?

>>24773659
You fucking retard. When will you learn that a "good idea" doesn't equal s GOOD STOCK. Realize that wallstreet is it's open economy with a different set of rules for valuation. Christ you're stupid

>>24773860
Go to the ghetto and flash some cash.

Top moving commodities:
Coal - HCC / ARCH
Iron / Steel - CLF / X
Rhodinium - ? Can't find a company

Also I'm thinking of making a commodities general but I suspect it will get buried by the other threads.

>>24773879
Sick thanks

>>24773923
Getting buried can be good
I want to know about copper and rough rice

>>24773923
What about water

>>24773923
/smg/'s rambling angry older uncle /pmg/ discusses other commodities on occasion

Is GE worth going ham on?

>>24772564
Same.
It's because the real world doesn't really seem to care about skill anymore. It's all about pretentious faggotry and larping. The stock market is nothing like that.

Imagine actually hating the weekend. Poor people lmao. Trading is a shit job, you want enough money you can just buy enough of everything you'll never be broke lmao. Market open just reminds me I still haven't made it.

so CLF bros what's the Monday play after losing 700 on Friday?

>1 more week of government of failing to pass covid relief bill
>December 21 Great Conjuction
Still plenty of time to exit.

>>24772564
>>24773215
>>24773958
Easy to say that in the eternal bullmarket

>>24773985
We're green until the 21st. I'm gonna mint money this week and pull cash on friday.

>>24773824
Hey say hi to your brother for me if he's home right now

>>24773683
>It hasn't pumped for a reason.
Yes, because it's not NKLA. Trevor Milton is making false claims to pump the stock price.

Because of this, you'll wake up one day when

>AMAZON PRE-ORDERS 100 HYLIION ERX's.

Then HYLN goes to 35-50 in one day.

>And the EV meme is dead now.
Fool

Biden's plan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=65&v=Ku7uZ0Gok2g&feature=emb_logo

2 TRILLION...again 2 TRILLION****** dollar clean energy plan...on top of Stimulus. All extremely bullish on EV.

If anything EV is only going to get started. American EV's especially, are going to the moon.

>>24773940
Don't forget lean hogs.

>>24773985
I could see the Jews tanking the markets right before Christmas simply because they are despicable people.

>>24774004
More bullish for UUUUranium

>>24774004
I can tell you're a baggie holding hyln since the symbol change
It's not going up any time soon, sorry

>>24773940
>copper
Copper has been growing well but it seems like maybe the top is near, it's starting to go only mildly up for 2 weeks now.

>>24773951
I'm in on it, not my biggest position but in nonetheless

>>24774004
Mitch "DOOMP ET" McConnell is going to neg everything including any green deal.

>>24774014
And they hate Christ

>>24773923
>>24773984

CLF already projected to make 2.60 earnings next year

So CLF at $26 is still only a PE ratio of 10

With everything being in the perfect storm for the Iron and Steel industry right now CLF most definitely could go to 50

>>24774014
Jupiter = wealth
Saturn = inversion
Jupiter with Saturn conjuction = day of poverty
Markets are gonna tank the 21st 100%. Jews love astrology. I have like 2 different modern Hebrew astrology manuals. Tesla is the trojan horse to tank boomerfolios, it's one of the largest companies in the world it will get a 3+% allocation into s&p and fuck the index up.

>>24773994
Not that you're wrong but how much do mid and small caps profit from a bull market that seems to be about FAGMAN and meme stocks. They will certainly not do well in a bear market but I'm ok with a crab market.

>>24773526
>cohen trying to turn them into an ecommerce giant
>brick and mortar stores are closing down, significantly reducing overhead

this is literally a good thing you fucking faggot

>>24774079
How does S&P to 2000 sound like?

>>24774079
So you're saying SPY is dead and QQQ will beat it

>>24772472

>its the most overvalued entity in recorded history

it really isnt, Tesla is a bubble but if you think we've never seen worse then you dont know much. COUNTLESS dotcom companies were alot more overvalued.

>>24774024
Again dummy, the Hyliion CEO is a quite Autist. He's not an extrovert like Milton.

So that means HYLN will release "out of nowhere" good news one day and you'll be fucked since you weren't there from the beginning...just like the new CLF fags.

>>24774047
Unlikely, infrastructure spending tends to have bipartisan support.

>>24773923
A commodities general would probably be pretty slow, but I think there's an opportunity for some good information to be shared.

This reminds me of some research I was doing earlier in the week. A few days ago I was looking for some ag businesses that were for sale, and one that I noticed was a listing for a maraschino cherry processor. Despite America being the second-largest producer of cherries in the world (behind Turkey), there are only four maraschino cherry processing facilities in the country (potentially three, if this guy can't sell). It was a fun thought experiment to think of what that would impact, should that business go under. My primary thoughts were Dairy Queen or similar desert companies, which are already being hit by lockdowns and winter (fewer people were going out for ice cream, and no one buys ice cream during winter). If a company were to vertically integrate and buy that processor, they'd have very little competition in terms of leveraging prices to suit their needs.

Happy week's end, /smg/ Let us pray
>Grant to us all good things needful for this body and life and profitable for our salvation, and keep from us all things harmful, that sustained in time of want and guarded in time of prosperity, we may endure to the day of our Lord’s coming and be judged worthy of eternal life; through Jesus Christ, our Lord, who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and forevermore.
Amen.

>>24774094
In almost every business cycle for most of the past century an economic downturn leads to a recession. This causes a sell off in risk on assets. Economic recovery typically takes months to years and goes small caps -> mid caps -> large caps (until the next cycle).
Fed QE attempts to "short circuit" this because its terrified of deflation. So we either have a return to large and mega caps or investing in the market is actually inversing the economy.

>>24772564

you like it because its easy, if you actually did work in this field you would spend all your time crunching numbers or doing data analysis. It's not fun.

>>24774122
I align myself with huisman in that I think the next actual bear market will bring it down 60-70% at the bottom.

>>24774141
I mean I think both will shit the bed tremendously. Once treasury yields skyrocket there's no cap on the amount of garbage companies value plummeting.

>>24774162
Jesus told me to buy SHRMF and now I'm up 200%

Jesus is my homeboy.

>>24774004
EV companies market caps are much higher than real car companies like Audi etc who sell MUCH more cars. Sorry but they are overpriced and you will baghold

>>24773859
look at the 1 year chart for a clue. 8+ solid before covid.

>>24774072
>Only 10
That's pretty high

>>24774162
fuck jesus

>>24774155
>Unlikely, infrastructure spending tends to have bipartisan support.
Infrastructure spending was brought up at the start of Bush, Obama, and Trump's presidencies. It is supposed to be low hanging fruit for the first 100 days. It went nowhere. This attempts to tie it specifically to "green" infrastructure which has cultural battle lines etched into it. Its stupid but I put the odds that it goes anywhere as near zero.
>>24774215
EVs ARE the modern tulips. Everyone wants to own the stocks but no one wants to pay the premium for the vehicles. They are also going to wreck absolute devestation on the electrical grid.
TSLA, the "front runner", " has issued 50 million shares per car they have "delivered" this year. Whatever the hell deliver means.

>>24774215
Those prices are going to be the new reality. Sorry if you haven't figured this out yet, but evaluations have lost a bit of common sense due to inflation in the marketplace.

That inflation is going to continue in this Golden Bull Run thanks to government spending.

>>24774287
What is the tulip analogy

>>24773923
>Also I'm thinking of making a commodities general but I suspect it will get buried by the other threads.
>>24773940
>Getting buried can be good
>>24774160
>A commodities general would probably be pretty slow, but I think there's an opportunity for some good information to be shared.
Ok I did it:
>>24774259

Commodity general, will always pay respect to smg:
>>24774259
Commodity general, will always pay respect to smg:
>>24774259
Commodity general, will always pay respect to smg:
>>24774259
Commodity general, will always pay respect to smg:
>>24774259

I am not gay.

>>24774167
the Fed QE is what really terrifies me and stops me from doing anything but day trading currently, it sucks. i worry too much about being in whenever the other shoe finally drops.

>>24774280
>fuck jesus

>>24774340
Talking about commodities is stupid.

It has little to do with demand & more to do with the dying dollar (dxy).

>>24774357
The Party stops when the Fed takes away the punch bowl...which is when they raise interest rates.

Which shouldn't happen for a LONG time, probably 2023+.

You did do the needful, right bros?

>>24774401

I dont think they can raise interest rates ever.
Housing market is too leveraged, raising rates would cause a huge collapse.
My country is the same, 22 year olds with 220k dollar loans.

>>24772058
>TELOS
The volume on that is tiny, no one gives a shit about Telos

>>24774350
that sounds like something a gay person would say...

>>24774424
how do i inverse black people?

>>24774401
>Which shouldn't happen for a LONG time, probably 2023+
I dunno. We passed some sort of line when oil crashed, the amount of direct from auction treasuries the fed has to pick up is accelerating.

>>24774401
>Which shouldn't happen for a LONG time, probably 2023+.
Black Swan incoming soon

>>24771957
How geeen will monday be ?

>>24774514

think tortoise eating a lime on a bed of palm leaves. that green.

>>24774427
I do worry about housing.

While all assets do inflate with the rate of inflation...If housing prices go to the moon, it's going to present problems of affordability.

I bought my house 2-3 years ago @ 103k. Zillow has it at 140k...if it goes to 200k in my area, the list of buyers willing to pay for my house goes down considerably.

Cant imagine the price of homes in hot areas like Texas or Nevada.

On top of this, big banks have strict credit requirements. Only a certain amount of people are able to get loans to purchase homes.

All signs point to a housing crash.

>>24774480
Just investing in general, not paying taxes. Voting Democrat to accelerate the demise of the US.

i got a feeling the bull market is about to crash lads

>>24774424

Should I make a channel called 'White Man Stocks'

Would I be called racist

>>24774579
Just being white makes you racist in this clown world.

>>24774568
Lol'd hard. Meanwhile houses in canada are increasing 20% year on year in price, and they were already more expensive than 2020 US houses in 2000.
>muh affordability
Hahahahahahahhahahahaha ameritard!

>>24774568
>https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-to-signal-interest-rates-hikes-wont-be-an-issue-until-2024-2020-09-15

holy fuck it's real. what do i dump all of my $50k into on monday, lads?

>>24774280
Kike

>>24774340
>Commodity general, will always pay respect to smg:
>>>24774259
>Commodity general, will always pay respect to smg:
>>>24774259
>Commodity general, will always pay respect to smg:
>>>24774259
>>24774401
>Talking about commodities is stupid.
>It has little to do with demand & more to do with the dying dollar (dxy).
Then why are some commodities moonshotting while others stagnant?
I made $100k on commodities bets in a week. Never before have I had that level of success.

>>24774598
I'm cheap, a house in the midwest for 100k sounds a lot better than a 1 million dollar house in Austin, Texas.

>>24774612
EV stocks, Lithium mining stocks.

Personal favorites:
SBE
HYLN
LIT
NIO

Secret Stock:
BABA

>>24771973

Bought MMEDF, NUMI and CYBIN

Gonna look again in 2-3 years

>>24774612

Is it any more obvious?

>>24774427
I'm not sure the housing market is a sufficient deterrent to increasing interest rates. It's not like someone is going to avoid taking out a loan because the rates changed from 3% to 4%.

>>24774612
>holding cash

>>24774682
>Is it any more obvious?
These dopes won't listen, steel is too boomer for them.
>>24774259

>>24774568
Precisely why I sold my house. I can see the writing on the wall.

>>24774645
Mmmmm, what’s the smell of that meat like?

>>24771957
This is bullish for crypto, and oracles, and DIA in general. I'll allow it.

>>24774598
Real estate only increases like that in major cities. Outside of that the market is actually quite soft. Our business went from flipping over a dozen houses a year with bidding wars sometimes to flipping less than 6 last year with many bids coming in under asking.

I know it's anecdotal but I wouldn't put a lot of faith in some of those data points. If you look at orea in particular they are behind some of the data. Before the pandemic outside of 416 the numbers were declining. Now we are to believe they are increasing?

>QUICK BUY HOUSE'S THEY ARE GAINING VALUE
>HERE'S A VERY LOW INTEREST RATE (1%) SO THAT YOU CAN AFFORD YOUR HOUSE
>market goes to shit
>interest rate goes up 1 point and millions start to default.

It's a ponzi scheme. A lot of people can barely afford their mortgage on their loan rate, heaven forbid their rate goes up 1 point and this all comes down.

Are you betting the rate stays at 1%?
I am betting it comes crashing down.

>>24774639
Because, every since the Pfizer "90%" efficacy rate results, the dollar has went down the shitter.

You could of invested in ANY EV stock and went up 100%++.

>>24774726
Assshy

>>24774579
sooper bassted

>>24773618
UEC is the patrician's uranium stock.

>>24773576
'ate video game shops
'ate head shops
'ate grocery stores
love online shopping
simple as mate

>>24774612
>>24774708
>>>24774568 (You)
>>https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-to-signal-interest-rates-hikes-wont-be-an-issue-until-2024-2020-09-15
>holy fuck it's real. what do i dump all of my $50k into on monday, lads?

Inflation is the only thing to fear, if it goes up too high, the federal reserve might do a 180.

That's when Pink Wojaks fill SMG.

>>24774815
love me job at the kliffs mine, simple as mate

>>24774852
Wouldn't we have a lot of warning in such a scenario?

Glowing rocks

>>24774072
>PE ratio of 10
PE ratio of 10 implies they are making money, which they are not. They are bleeding money and are a hard sell.

>>24774772
>Are you betting the rate stays at 1%?
even if you have a variable interest rate contract, it would stay the same for 5 years, so yeah..
you'd pay off almost a good chunk of the house before the rate is re-assessed. So if you somehow paid off half the house, the actual interest you're paying would be the same even if the rate doubled

frankly, even if a house is overpriced at like $1 million or something, the funny thing is it would still be cheaper than paying rent a lot of cases. It's such a huge problem in Canada when you have TV shows with people buying multiple houses as rental properties. The tenants pay for your mortage

>>24773913
i don't think it was a squeeze as much as that anon claimed. the short interest is much higher now than it was before it popped off to 50+. a large portion was likely tuts buying and MMS now shorting.
crsr is still great company. don't listen to the faggots here who hype a stock at its highs and shit on it at lows. I wouldn't hold short term calls though, it still needs to consolidate and chill from its volatile ride up and back down.
when it finally regains bullish momentum, it will probably shoot up again in no time. it's float is under 20M which is super low

Houses are getting sold fast as hell around me. My neighborhood alone, I think 4 went on the market. (one was part of an estate sale;hell they had cars lined up all down the block selling the dead person's shit all day long in the front yard) Seemingly not even a month later all 4 got "sale pending" tagged on the 4 sale signs. I hope this keeps on. My parents are downsizing so I hope they're able to get a fat offer on their old house.

>>24774983
>My neighborhood alone, I think 4 went on the market.
Nice. Which country are they white flighting to? Hungary, Poland?

Do you think the market will crash 40%? Someone on Reddit said that it’s inevitable.

Who /bussy gang/ here?

>>24775018
We should have a cross country rally in them when the stock goes public.

>>24774772
>Real estate only increases like that in major cities.
HAHAHAHHAHahahahahhaHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHA
OH WAIT YOU'RE FUCKING SERIOUS
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAA
MY FUCKING SIDES!
You're in for one hell of a rude awakening!

>>24775017
I actually think so, but I don't think it's "inevitable". In any case, if it does happen, it's either going to be in 10 years, or it's going to be before march 2021.

>>24775017
just position yourself for any scenario, have a plan to make moves at certain levels, etc., and it doesn't really matter if there is another crash

>>24775011
Lol, Kentucky. It's tax friendly, low col. Hell Where I am I get the best of both worlds. It's still a city so plenty of things to do/amenities but it's not fucking packed or full of degenerates like Louisville or Lexington. The people here actually give a shit about the place.

which of the option greeks do you love and hate the most?

>>24775051
he's retarded and probably didn't even look at real estate prices outside the city in the first place

even cottages here are booming because people can work from home, like their boss is not gonna care if you're working from a shitty downtown condo or from a comfy large cottage (that's probably still cheaper) several hours away

>>24774424
>black girl stocks
what an excellent way to lose money.
amazing how these people default to superficial things like their skin color while appropriating everyone else's culture.

>>24775077
v

>>24773633
Maybe I'll do some long calls on rycey. They're not going to be allowed to fail, right?

>>24775095

>>24775111
they make some of the best plane engines

>>24775065
in two weeks. Right after quarter expiration

>>24774682
can you give me a rundown of the DD on this? i'll take a screenshot of some DD posts or a link to some articles to read as well if you have them.

>>24775111
I don't believe there is an options chain for RYCEY.

>>24772606
I have a Put on BB, I don't believe it's going to moon after that first initial explosion, but I could be wrong.
It's way above that EMA, needs to correct.

>>24775111
>They're not going to be allowed to fail
that doesn't mean they can't fuck over shareholders
see airliners before they became profitable

>>24775111
The last earning report wasn't that bad. This is the last during the covid era. 4.2 million pound cash burn v.s 4.0 estimate. Unit sales will cover half that. They got projects backlogged also. Cure dispersal will require airplanes to get to where it needs to go in addition to trucks,ships,etc. So yeah they'll be fine.

>>24775150
Yeah I just checked there's not. Sucks

>>24775095
funny how the people who claim to hate racism and "white privilege" make everything about race and expect to be entitled to privileges based on their race.

>>24775130
lol fuck off you know damn well this is bull shit

>>24775137
Key dates I'm watching are: expiration next week, expiration after Jan 12, and first expiration in march. The last potential meaningful date is 100 days after Jan 12, but by that time it's unlikely anything happens if we didn't get good signals beforehand.

>>24775192
While it's a bit on the extreme side, more or less the theme is all white people are evil and anything a minority does wrong is a product of white privilege.

>>24775191
wow i really RLLY need som sauce

>>24775197
Nice try SPLC. We all know the jewish oligarchy run media can find no fault in niggers.

>>24774938
>If you somehow paid off half your house
>in five years
That seems line a scenario that's pretty far from the average, wouldn't you say? Not that you couldn't, but most mortgages are 30 years, and most people don't pay them off any faster than they must.
Still, raising interest rates shouldn't really be a concern, because it's only going to happen if there's rising inflation. More inflation should mean higher salaries, so the increase in mortgage payment is offset by increased wages. Add in that most people who are currently working will be making more money in five years (due to promotions/seniority/etc), and the fact that adjustable rate mortgages are only a slice of the mortgage market (most mortgages are fixed). Conclusion: I wouldn't worry about interest rates too much.
Now, if there's deflation on the other hand...

>>24775262
devil

are you ready for some green candles on Monday?

>>24774924

5b mkt cap
17b revenue pro forma M&A

Who is bleeding money again lol

>>24775197
>doesn't know per capita violent crime rates
>doesn't know ~90% of interracial violent crimes are black on white
>doesn't know that basically all crime is committed by one race
>doesn't know that America would be the safest country in the world if a certain group left the country
ngmi

>>24775291
this

And this stopped being funny years ago

>>24775291
black people are cool literally anything is better then just being wagecucks that do nothing but drone around offices all day saving up for retirement so you can die in a house

>>24775291
why would color of skin make someone do crimes more often? you're retarded.

>>24772236
>>24772210
who is clfag? cowo?
Does he have an acc? i want dem juiciy brother picks

>>24775266
i mean it depends on whether you're in a shitty place where the house is $1 million vs some suburb hell where it's "only" $300K or something
depending on how aggressive you want to pay it off, i mean with the scenario where someone is really concerned about the interest spiking after 5 years

realistically you probably wouldn't rush to pay it since there are better returns on other things, assuming the interest rate stays low

>>24775148

Ray Charles could see this shit coming

5th earnings beat for Q3 in a row on track for 6th in February

1.65b revenue generated sitting on 3b mkt cap on earnings day

17b revenue pro forma M&A while sitting on 5b mkt cap?

I mean it's black and white... people are just sleep

>>24775197
It's very much true.

The fight in White Supremacy has shifted SOOOOOOOOO much from one spectrum to the other.

It officially went from fighting KKK to embracing Black Supremacy.

>>24775307
Take solace in knowing that black people absolutely cannot stop killing each other, and nothing will ever stop that.

>>24775276
Says the cabal of human traffickers and child molestors.

>>24775266
Many salaries are barely impacted by inflation and many of those jobs don't have any more room to advance. Many towns in the Midwest only have the options of teacher, some form of laborer, and nursing. That's basically it, most of these people are still making the same salary they did 20 years ago (maybe not nurses).

>>24775311
yeah now we have to wagecuck and drone around offices all day and can't retire and die in a shitty apartment, way better thanks black people!

>>24774169
You could be right. However, it's like, shit, I want to try. I think I'm smart enough, as you see I hold 2 degrees.

>>24775262
Measuring progress. :)

Is this bull run never going to end, or are we going to get a double-dip by next year?

>>24775328
holy shit please tell me you're not serious. this is just a bad faith actor, right? no one can be this fucking dense, can they?

Can you faggots go to /pol to discuss about racism and niggers? We do not care. We are just here for insider info and super autist genius tips

>>24775328
The entire nigger culture revolves around criminality

>>24775358
there is no indication that the government wants the economy to specularly fail to appease a tiny minority of bears.

Can someone explain kpopfag to me? I was on reading some /qa/ archives and someone was complaining about rkg, but it seems like the thread shifted to complaining about kpopfag. It appears people from outside /smg/ know about him as well, someone tinniepill me please

>>24775358
In any case just fucking hold and never sell. If your picks are half decent you will win. That's why you invest with money you dont mind losing. Shit goes below 0 hell? You hold and fuck off for a few years

>>24775336
i mean like what do they do and why are they going up all of a sudden recently, specifically? what are the catalysts? just progressively better earnings? and if so what is causing progressively better earnings?

I have been financially ruined

>>24772083
This desu. All my gambling and get-rich-quick stock market schemes are motivated by the insatiable desire to own a home while I still have my youth.

>>24775362
That's what happens when stocktwit faggots and reddit trannies find out about this place. Everyone tried to warn you but
>hyuck!! wsb has some good info sometimes

>>24775290
CLF Chad, is CLF your entire portfolio or do you have any other buys right now? I will do anything you say

>>24775384

CLF bought AK Steel this Spring in 1st M&A and bought AT USA in 2nd M&A this month..

This is akin to... imagine Goodyear Tires were to buy up Ford and then General Motors lol

CLF is about to become an unstoppable steel juggernaut. I'll link some videos

https://youtu.be/sxCccimfuZU

This is from Last year

https://youtu.be/92RPZdbWz4Q

And finally an important and good one

https://youtu.be/R7XG4BW7WVg

Swapping majoiity of my investment to VIST and OLN. Ammo manufacturers are going to be making bank over the next few weeks

>>24775328
More has to do with their inferior ancestry. Their whole history is filled with:

1) Rape
2) Pillaging
3) Violence

Meanwhile, other races and ethnicities embraced advancement in all facets.

>>24775410
Based Cuck

>>24775404
ive been around here for years. i just happen to understand that even racists can be right about which stock to pick for stock market.

is this bullish? another guy on reddit said he works in the industry and rycey is a shit show

>>24775410
I sold for a little profit. Did the same with pltr. If I can get an even lower in than I’ll scoop some up. No fomo fome

>>24775340
i kinda want to learn japanese and find a way to move to japan. might be difficult because im white but i have an engineering education and if i know the language and culture too i could probably make it work. sure i'd be around only japanese people all the time, but at least i'd get to be part of a homogeneous culture that doesn't have any niggers.

>>24775372
Certainly. First off this is kpopfag. He's an autistic zoomer. Last night he had a full on aspie freakout. Like the git water scene in rain man (see attached video)
https://youtu.be/wFevFEtg9Lg
It's was incredibly enjoyable.

>>24775410

I have 1000 leap calls and 2300 short term calls

My biggest shit in my portfolio as of this moment? Some 12.50 DB calls expiring 12/31 that I dumped 3.5k into... they are worth basically nothing as the bids have evaporated lol

Fucking DB

>>24775438
the irony is that it's you and your side of the political spectrum who are the most racist and you don't even realize it.

>>24774772
>Our business went from flipping over a dozen houses a year
So you're one of the faggots driving up prices.

>>24775290
>17b revenue
The absolute state of redditors on 4chan. You can't even read a bar graph. CLF doesn't even make 2b in revenue quarterly. Their profit margins are overall negative. They've lost more money than they've made this year.

>>24775462
I've interacted with him for a while but holy shit I thought you guys were all memeing when you said this was him, is he known in other places as well? How did people find his tiktok? I'm so intrigued by this schizo

>>24775462
i think anyone would do an aspie freakout if you YOLO'd $5k into GME calls, get to $45K, but couldn't cash out because of fraud, then back to $15K even after $19 spike because he wasted a good chunk on weeklies

it's amazing

>>24775431
is something happening to cause demand for steel to go up or something? i know nothing about the steel industry, will check out the videos though. i'll at least gamble a grand on it if nothing else.

>>24775311
except there's only one group who are net taxpayers and that's white men
>>24775328
pic related, you tell me. why am I supposed to explain why a particular race is violent? burden of proof/explanation isn't on me. ironically I bet you're well versed in educating people on white privilege though lmao

>>24775524
I don't know how anyone found out his other accounts but he fits in perfectly here. Autism is the foundation of /smg/

>>24775524
i didnt believe it until i saw "Tinny Foiler" posting in the RK chat

>>24775516
they did make 17b in revenue lrn2read

>>24775311
except there's only one group who are net taxpayers and that's white men
>>24775328
you tell me. even the wealthiest black areas have higher rate of violent crimes than the poorest white areas. why am I supposed to explain why a particular race is violent? burden of proof/explanation isn't on me. ironically I bet you're well versed in educating people on white privilege though lmao

>>24775532

We are in the biggest steel shortage of our time... just scroll through this man

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/CLF

>>24775516

CLF has beaten earnings 5 quarters in a row, on track for 6th might I add. They have had their credit rating turned positive from credit suisse this month. Tell me, with the 5-6 billion dollars of debt CLF has and is reliably paying off every quarter, how much time would it take to pay off 6b debt with 17b of revenue my little retard?

Virgin Galactic news.

Oh my god it IS HIM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aI_UT7pjPBk

>>24775583
CLF announced the successful completion of acquiring all the operations of ArcelorMittal USA LLC and its subsidiaries.

On 2019 basis, the combined company generated revenues of roughly $17 billion and combined adjusted EBITDA of around $1.7 billion, including earlier disclosed expected synergies.

>>24775600
>how much time would it take to pay off 6b debt with 17b of revenue my little retard?
probably a very long time considering their profit margin is 7%

>>24775600

Here ill do his homework

http://www.clevelandcliffs.com/English/news-center/news-releases/news-releases-details/2020/Cleveland-Cliffs-Inc.-Completes-Acquisition-of-ArcelorMittal-USA/default.aspx

So with 17b revenue and we are sitting at 1/3rd of that with mkt cap what is going to happen to CLF now?

Are your neurons firing yet?

>>24775600
why is there a huge steel shortage? what is CLF doing in particular to take advantage of that, or is it just a "everyone in steel is doing well because of the shortage" sort of situation?

>>24775632
>redditard tries to argue
>proves himself wrong about 2020 revenue
Typical nigger brain.

>>24775516
Read between the lines fuck stick

>>24775645
bruh hes been posting it all for a long time. is there any other stock you think is good?

>>24775637

Profit margin is 7%? Did you pull this number out your ass? Stocks don't trade on past history you mongoloid, they trade on how they will move in the future

Go do some due diligence on Steel prices right now. Matter of fact, why don't you call up any manufacturer and try to see the wait times on spot iron LOL

CLF is vertically integrated they have a shit ton of steel. So what happens when you have control of most of the inventory while a century of iron is still in the dirt to harvest?

>>24775662
>I can't read bargraphs
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>I don't realize my stock gains are the result of shilling and not actual performance
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Monday surely will be BLOOD RED with Germany entering "lockdown" again?

>>24775645
He's posting it right now ffs, why can't you people read

>>24775689

This guy needs his meds lol he thinks /smg/ pumped 2b dollars into CLF mkt cap LOL

>>24775395
i own a house. its not a huge deal.

>>24775689
this is an incel

>>24775621
Oh fuck he's worst than I imagined. This has to be satire right?

>>24775692
i invest in the US market not germany

baking

>>24775705
i dont want one in rural arkansas

how damaging is a no deal brexit to RYCEY with airbus being in the EU

>>24775677
>Profit margin is 7%? Did you pull this number out your ass?
I'm talking about the latest quarterly

>>24775729
i live in CT.

whats a house going to do for you? its not that great.

new bread see you tmrw lads @_____@

>>24775755
>>24775755
>>24775755

new bread, see you tmrw lads O________O

>>24775755
>>24775755
>>24775755

>>24773322
Major shift in the next year is highly likely. 20% pullback almost inevitable. Accumulate $5 $SPXS calls and $40 $SQQQ calls that expire in Jan2022 ($SQQQ might be Jan2023, volume at least a hundred, open interest at least a thousand). Just accumulate slowly over the next quarter, nothing too crazy and what you feel like you can afford.

>>24773618
GPL.

>>24775768
i just want to move somewhere with nice weather and not in the middle of nowhere and just be left alone to get high and make money

>>24775545
pic won't load but it shows per capita crime rate higher in the wealthiest black suburbs compared with the poorest white neighborhoods. isn't it strange that for all the hate "trailer trash" receives from media, their homicide rates are still lower than some of the richest black communities?
>>24775438
>stats are racist
you're the type who believes data is racist but media's constant push for more violence towards whites is totally fine. kindly kys and go back to r*ddit.

>>24775799
rent something in the area first. if you like it buy something when you can. good luck.

>>24775768
>Landlord can't kick you out any time
>Landlord can't enter your dwelling at any time while you're at work for "maintenance"
>Landlord can't control what you do with it the inside of it

>>24775819
>>24775799
>>24775395
I'm so jelly of ameritards, their houses are so ridiculously cheap. I could literally buy one outright right now, but that's not enough for a downpayment over here in canuckistani land.
All this despite the fact you have much higher salaries. Yet you still complain.

>>24775886
its only cheap in shit holes no one wants to live in. in california nyc and south florida they get really expensive but south florida you can probably wing something pretty cheap thats good.

rural houses are cheap as fuck anywhere

>>24775703
>I can't let him stop my shilling. The stock value will plummet. It's not based on any real performance.
>>>24775710
You can't project your inferiority on me. I already know you can't even read a chart.

>>24775886
>comparing canadian cities to the US nowheres

Anyone own IRBT?

>>24775933
I'm actually comparing the cucknadian nowhere to the US 30 minutes from a city.
Your pic has no heating, no water, no cooling, paper walls (not in the US sense, even thinner than that) and is 7 hours 33 minutes from the nearest major city (thunderbay is not a major city). It's also a very old "house". You would find the same thing in the US for about 20k.

>>24775621
Incredible.