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This is literally the dumbest idea ever. Why would you put judicature in the hands of uneducated people? Almost all law cases are too complex to solve for people that don't have a law degree. There are so many cases where, in retrospect, even the judge had it wrong and an even higher, more educated and experienced judge, had to correct the verdict. What makes you people think you can just vote over legal matters without a comprehensive understanding of the relevant law system? It is like doing away with surgeons and just letting medically uneducated people vote on what to do to a patients body. I just can't grasp how anyone can think Kleros is a good idea.

>> No.24769130

>>24769111
Low rent fud

Klee is isn’t replacing the court system; it’s replacing arbitration

>> No.24769152

you're a fucking retard
it isn't about legal cases
it is about dispute resolution like when your delivery for an item from china failed
right now pajeets do that and fuck it up royally across the world
now kleros can do it for decentralized services

>> No.24769160

>>24769130
Why would anyone use Kleros over the current legal system?

>> No.24769207

>>24769160
Economics, trust, efficiency, transparency, scale

Do I need to go on? Think about a large firm forcing its 200,000 employees or customers to use cheap-as-fuck by comparison Kleros arbitration rather than the current state of arbitration.

>> No.24769213

>>24769111
Have you read the white paper or done any research?

I assume if you had you wouldn’t be asking retarded fucking questions.

>> No.24769228

>>24769160
Becauase I'm 10000% more likely to use a Kleros-based system when the "court of law" I'd have to chase down is in another country

Good luck getting a Chinese company to give you anything other than the middle finger when filing a dispute with them. Dumbfuck.

>> No.24769232

Have you done any research of your own?

Have you read the white paper?

I assume you haven’t or else, I would hope, you wouldn’t be asking retarded fucking questions.

>> No.24769334

Mate fucking crypto courts, what a larp. Like investing in neo because its the chinese ethereum. Kleros just appeals to the brainlet in us all. Its a good idea, and that's where it ends. When looked at in detail the game theory just doesn't add up.

>> No.24769342

>>24769111
dr;ns

>> No.24769349
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24769349

>This is literally the dumbest idea ever. Why would you put judicature in the hands of uneducated people? Almost all law cases are too complex to solve for people that don't have a law degree. There are so many cases where, in retrospect, even the judge had it wrong and an even higher, more educated and experienced judge, had to correct the verdict. What makes you people think you can just vote over legal matters without a comprehensive understanding of the relevant law system? It is like doing away with surgeons and just letting medically uneducated people vote on what to do to a patients body. I just can't grasp how anyone can think Kleros is a good idea.

>> No.24769375

>>24769349
Keep pasting this in every kleros thread. It gets my PNK stack hard

>> No.24769396

>>24769334
Please explain

>> No.24769402

>>24769160
You're a retard please kill yourself thank you

>> No.24769410

lots of pissed pnkers in this thread
awww you thought your little ebay resolution token run by a french moralfaggot was going to go anywhere, cope lmao

>> No.24769465

It’s not about courts. It’s about was the item damaged in shipping? Was the item delivered? Was the item as described? Think eBay customer service

>> No.24769473

>>24769207
They use arbitration because the judges know this is how they get paid, so they always side with the corporation. The entire system is massively corrupt.

>> No.24769475

>>24769410
$10 eoy 2022

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>>24769160
why would the decentralized Crypto Citadel use the centralized legal system of the Old world?

>> No.24769563

>>24769396
Like the chinese ethereum neo because its an oracle, but not the oracle you know and love but a subjective one. As if subjectivity is necessary in automated systems. Game theory is kaput from the get go as the majority of jurors I.e. early buyer's share a similar mindset, mentality, belief set. They will indirectly make incorrect decisions, but there will be no grounds for appeal due to lack of evidence or arguement provided. That is just the first glaring game theory flaw.

>> No.24770113

>>24769130
seriously low quality but it's this kind of mindless crap that most people listen to.

It's not about settling legal shit it's about getting your neighbor to admit that he fked up when he cut down your half of that bush. that's it. it's basically gong to clear up the legal system from all the petty crap

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24771270

Mildly successful YouTube fag here, could kleros used to unfuck the copyright ID system over there? Currently you can just lose revenue for bullshit reasons like playing a song for 5 seconds too long and there’s basically no way to deal with it as you’re not gonna go to court over something so minor. Is this the kind of inane bullshit Kleros could be used to dispute over?

>> No.24771316

>>24769111
>he thinks it’s for courts of law
>he doesn’t know they’re in Thomson Reuters incubator
>he doesn’t realize pnk holders act like pajeets for fun
>he doesn’t know it’s shilled by vitalik
>he doesn’t know it’s one of the largest holds for the top 5k link wallets
>he doesn’t know they received $500k and $1M grants
>he didn’t check kleroscan.com to see that the project has already brought in over $1M to the users
>he doesn’t know what dispute resolution is
>he didn’t turn $5k to $100k holding pnk
>he doesn’t realize kleros has 8 diff dapps besides their court dapp
>he doesn’t realize kleros helps link solve the oracle problem
>he doesn’t realize link cannot handle subjective data
>he doesn’t even know what subjectivity is
>he doesn’t realize kleros is one of the most advanced teams in all of crypto
>he didn’t believe 4MOONXGG

>> No.24771326

>>24771270
Yes, kleros is unironically perfect for things like that.

>> No.24771352

>>24769111
>This is literally the dumbest idea ever.

Jesus fuck the absolute state of this board, you unironically believed a literal MEME is going be implemented for cross-border payment disputes and judicial orders, and scammers and judges would step down and obey? This is on the level of Doge coin.

It's literal DeFi retard children jumping on the new bandwagon without understanding it, making a 2x, and getting out in a week. That's everything to the "Kleros" story.

>> No.24771357

>>24769111
Its not about the court of law you mongoloid

>> No.24771361

>>24771352
how else are you going to dispute $40 when the parties aren't even in the same country?

>> No.24771373

So is Kleros going to have their own police force and prisons to enforce the sentences?

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24771376

>>24771326
Well shit, if it picks up in steam and gets noticed as a solution to that other youtubers would be nonstop shilling it spreading info on it like wildfire and lobbying google to implement it. I’m fucking in

>> No.24771394

>>24771361
Paypal

>> No.24771402

>>24771394
and how do you think that backend functions?

>> No.24771447

>>24771402
Paypal has control over payments because it's centralized. They can resolve disputes by freezing assets, your nigger coin is a hype fest that serves no real world utility because it's not a payment system, and even if it was it would never be adopted by the mainstream. No normie would ever put $100 in a defi insecure token.

>> No.24771493

Will there be rape cases that we get to be jurors on? That’s the only reason I bought this coin.

>> No.24771508

I have over 200k, and I’m only in if for the memes and I don’t understand much, but my question is... what’s the point of having jurors if you rule the wrong way you lose PNK? Why doesn’t the higher up deciding if you ruled the wrong way just rule himself, and bypass all this blockchain voting bullshit

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24771523

>>24769111
VOX POPULI VOX DEI, BITCH

>> No.24771526

>>24771270
What kind of youtuber are you?

>> No.24771551

>>24769160
You know what’s funny? I was randomly watching Back to the Future 2 tonite, and in one of the scenes they were showing how in the future you won’t need lawyers and cases would be ruled on virtually instantly. With respect to the scene where Biff ends up getting arrested instead of Marty on a scene where the timelines changed during the movie.

>> No.24771670

>>24771526
6 Figure subscriber minecraft fag, make speedbuilds n shit

>> No.24771723
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24771723

Threadly reminder that an increase in fud threads on a particular coin typically predates that coin moonshotting (e.g. link)

For those still unsure whether now is the time to buy, the Kleros whalechad has been accumulating $2 million worth of pnk the last few days.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x3d96a409b46d945d2802330b968b1de917ce597f#tokentxns

He knows something. This shit is undoubtably the next LINK. Don't miss out.

>> No.24771822

>>24771447
Who at PayPal makes the decision?

>> No.24771834

>>24769111
nice blog post, carl. we'll see what the kleros police say about your unsavory opinions

>> No.24771850

>>24769563
Wtf is a game theory lol

>> No.24771865

>>24771850
mathematicians writing theorems on how chandler from friends should act

>> No.24771934

How do I use unidex so I can buy this shitcoin?

>> No.24771988

I've been trying to accumulate this forever and it won't fucking dip

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>>24769111
>law cases
niggers be out here thinking PNK is going to be awarded to the bereaved in the event of a murder. bullish

>> No.24772205

>>24771670
Do you get laid?

>> No.24772222

>>24771988
How many do you currently have

>> No.24772322

>>24772222
16000
nice quads

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24772372

>>24771822
>>24771988
>>24772222
>>24772322
SIRS

>> No.24772682

>>24771508
I hope you understand, the majority rules, it incentivizes people to vote honestly and according to how they believe other people vote

>> No.24772747

They’re rolling out a program to deliver chicken tikka masala to jurors when they’ve been selected for a case. Can’t wait for the update

>> No.24773000

u ever read a thread on biz full of gay retards that wont read the whitepaper or the fucking 400 page book the kleros team wrote on dispute resolution haha me neither I shouldn't have brought it up

>> No.24773054

>>24769130
but that's the point anon
the court system was basically made for arbitration. Even simple arbitration (did they do a job satisfactorily?) is very easy to manipulate without evidence procedures and cross-examination and open dialogue.

I personally plan to make some good money defrauding people who trust Kleros, it's probably better than shorting in this delusional market

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>>24769111

>> No.24773153

token not needed

meme based on a stinky indian

what else do you need to hear bro

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24773176

What’s the point of arguing if arguers don’t read the whitepaper

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>>24769475
$20

>> No.24773801

>>24773231
if kleros gets to 5$ i'd be happy, 20$ is insane in 2 years I doubt that huge of a jump is possible but who knows

>> No.24773828

>>24769160
This nigga never tried to take someone to small claims court I see.

>> No.24774080

>>24773176
Crabs in a bucket and retards who are just trying to justify to themselves why they shouldn't bet on a good idea.