/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24754246
how many times did ari juels switch gender? and follow-up question: how many times is he going to change his gender in the future? please and thank you.

how many to make it in summer 2021?

>>24754246
I REPEAT.. HOURLY, NO MINUTELY FUCKING REMINDER: NO PRICE ACTION FOR YOU LINKLETS THIS MONTH (December now kek) OR EVER
>mfw biz fell for the assblaster, landlord link, and drunkanon LARPs
>mfw Gonser brought on board to NDA the office harassment victims on the blockchain
>mfw Keenan Olsen "community manager" has a OKR about biz content (KEK?)
>mfw years, no DECADES will go by before R&D produces a working prototype. 3 years in, still not a final whitepaper
>mfw uptrend inevitable for chink coins BAND, DOS, and DIA that are months, no YEARS ahead in terms of development
>mfw brainlets don't realize they're being dumped on, or (MY FUCKING SIDES) think it's a good thing
YOU WANTED A QUESTION? FUCK YOU. NO QUESTIONS, AND NO PRICE ACTION.
mfw
MFW
MY FUCKING FEELINGS WHEN

>>24754331
Zero, zero
>>24754333
Tough to say, depends on if arbitrum is live on nodes by then
The moment that running a node without a proprietary data source is a de facto revenue positive activity I would guess you'll start to see the network be valued around the magnitude of its true value

>>24754400
Note the amount of effort that went into this post
One of two things are true:
- This is someone from a low income country paid to do this
- This is someone who holds link but is desperate to protect his own fragile ego. If he makes posts like this and he's wrong he can at least say "i told you so" and if he's right he won't hesitate a second to tell you how cool he is for his fud that you'd have to be stupid to fall for

>>24754448
>mfw he's not been on biz for very long
>mfw not only is he a linker, but he's a nulinker
>mfw he's not even up hundreds of % and sergey is still dumping on him
>mfw he's probably actually down on his initial and he'll still defend the team
MY FUCKING FEELS

>>24754246
Fuck off chain link god.faggot

>>24754246
Will the dump ever end?

>>24754414
Do you think its a lot of people lined up to use arbitrum once it goes live? I haven't really felt the hype

Can chainlink fail?

>>24754246
no, thanks. link is not spoonfeeding worthy. nobody cares so respectfully piss off

>>24754621
If you read my posts you would already know none of these statements are true
>>24754634
I don't have twitter
>>24754642
Yes, when depends on when link payouts drop because price reference feeds fully convert to offchain aggregation
>>24754655
You tell me:
https://swap.arbitrum.io/#/swap
https://arb.mcdex.io/trade/ETH-PERP
https://burner.arbitrum.io/
https://explorer.offchainlabs.com/#/

Note all of those are live and churning with launch customers on testnet now

>>24754694
Anything is possible
Mentally I flipped from "Chainlink is the best early stage tech I've ever seen" to "Chainlink is a juggernaut that can't be stopped" when Ed felten and offchain jumped in. I think a lot of the long term holders took that as the trigger.
>>24754770
No

>>24754246
How did pic related happen?

Is it too late to buy a 100-200 LINK stack? I recently became linkpilled and want to get in unironically.

>>24754847
A mildly attractive and not particularly intelligent woman realized that if she was willing to humor introverted nerds and old men with what was left of her used up sexuality she could go further in her career than hard work could ever take her.
Then biz did its thing and voila

>>24754853
You'll have to make that decision
Think about this: Link is a network protocol. In the 70's and 80's nobody even knew what a computer network was, then in the 90's people understood it for email and free porn
Now the internet of unreliable data is worth ~24tn
How many people understand what link is today?
How much is one one billionth permanent proportional ownership of the internet of value worth?

>>24754246
How did you become knowledgeable of Chainlink tech? I’m trying to learn more about crypto from a technical side. I understand the big picture of Link and Bitcoin but I’d like to be well educated so that I can actually dispute FUD or have productive discussions about projects.
Also, when moon

>>24754919
what is the most overlooked thing about cahinlink that is never discussed here

Do you see any other opportunity similiar to link in the market?

>>24754879
Walla* you dumb uncultured nigger

>>24754246
When will staking be released

>>24754246
Token needed or not?

>>24754781
>mfw he hasn't read my posts
>mfw he answers every question because he's desperate to get number to go up with muh arbitrum muh staking
NO QUESTION FOR YOU
NO PRICE ACTION FOR YOU LINKLETS
NOT NOW
NOT EVER
MFW
MY FEELINGS WHEN

>>24755056
/biz/ is the best place to pick up new things in a highly adversarial environment
Once you find those things (chainlink, arbitrum, deco, canDID etc.) read their technical papers slowly until you understand every sentence

If you actually do that you will be ahead of 99% of retail investors and the vast majority of fundfags as well
>>24755089
The coming technical iterations that will decrease effective link emission
Remember that 1/3 of the tokens are for network incentives- right now that is being used to pay nodes high amounts of link in order to let them report on chain and not sink because of gas costs.
Once tsigs/OCR goes live and becomes live, they're not going to keep paying the same high link amounts when the node's effective gas costs are now 1/8 what they used to be
It's not exactly the s2f model for BTC, but similar idea
>>24755135
I generally look for true investment monopoly and true value case orthogonality- that means that every bet i have outside of link is non-overlapping with link's value case. I think I have some other picks that have the potential to be around the same order of magnitude of novel value created, but only time will tell.
And no, I'm not shilling anything but link in this thread
>>24755265
ooo you're edgy
>>24755283
I'd guess after there are high volume default revenue streams for the link node and after the team is satisfied that the game theory aspect of it is well understood, which Thomas made sound like the major limiting step at current
It wouldn't surprise me if they were talking with solver designers from other industries to model this right now

>>24755056
I'm a somewhat newfag myself and all i can say is this, start with the tech paper, ask what is the benefit it provides to society, and keep track of production. There are way more stuff but i keep it to these few.

>>24755399
how does it feel knowing you bought into a token that may have repercussions to our freedom and rights in the future?

i never thought much about what the schizos said in the past but it seems that the Great Reset meme is actually catching on, and we all know what will be the final piece of the puzzle behind a deterministic social credit system: accurate data being brought on-chain.

have you considered this?

>>24755497
cry more slave

>>24755383
Token is a requirement of network participation
>>24755396
Try harder
>>24755497
You haven't thought it through fully:
This is a permissionless network which incentivizes performance and truth
You think you're going to get a totalitarian reset, but what you're really going to get is an honest look at how really real the pareto principle is
90% of people are net negatives and exist only because of the moral goodness of the productive 10%
After link, that becomes undeniable

Thanks for these threads anon

What is the deal with swift involvement? I remember sergey saying he couldn’t disclose much in autist girl livestream and nothing since. Is there still a relationship with gpi Link or was it just a meme?

>>24754246
I missed link at 20 cents. Please shill me the next /biz/ coin - I just want to live free and easy.

>>24755600
to my brainlet self it sounds dystopian as fuck still

i do recall sexual liberation and the rise of feminism actually creating this situation where an 80/20 distribution is apparent in dating, and the remaining males of poor quality fight for scraps. Either that or they move on to escapist activities or general perversions (e.g simping behaviour and supporting ethots, or going into full porn as a substitute)... all of which are quite symptomatic of a decaying society.

dont really want to derail the thread or start shit flinging on differences in politics and morality. but i do appreciate the spoonfeed for other nulinkers you have brought in this thread fren.

Can expand on the purpose for the 500k link dump? It’s to incentivize the network or something?

>>24755600
Did you make this ? Pic related

>>24755399
>It's not exactly the s2f model for BTC, but similar idea
do you mean that sergey stop dumping linkies (aka paying out nodes because gas is so expensive) will have the same effect then the halving because the commodity is increasingly scarce?

>>24755600
With OCR currently being tested, I was wondering if there's any vulnerability with having one node provide all the other nodes data on chain?
What stops that node from manipulating it after data aggregation

>>24755725

Imagine being smoothbrain newfag OP and unironically responding to someone calling themselves MrBearWolf who is literally just copypasting the same thing on every thread like a robot
Opinions on LINK fully disregarded, I don't need spoonfeeding from a retard KEK

what will happen to sushiswap and uniswap if arbiswap goes live on mainnet? i know uniswap is moving to optimism, but what if arbiswap beats them to the punch? am i wrong in thinking arbitrum on mainnet is a significant event? nobody seems to be talking about it but maybe i'm not plugged into the right channels. thanks.

>>24755399
Doesn't make sense... ocr, doesn't that just cut gas costs, so if sergey is subsidizing the cost atm, it just means the node operators will get paid less.

>>24755940
Node operators will get paid less, but it'll enable the network to grow more which will eventually mean they return to what they're making if not more.
>Sergey is subsidizing the cost
At least now every link integration won't require a dip in sergeys wallet

nice thread OP

What is chainlink token needed for? Pay for service?

>>24754621
Holy shit
I actively avoid any link threads, now for years
You’ve actually been on here for like 3 fucking years FUDDING this project

What in the fuck is wrong with you?

I own 0 link and never will, but who in their right fucking kind would dedicate years of their life to FUDDING a project on an anonymous image board
You must have some serious fucking mental issues or literally nothing better to do
I’m actually at a loss for words

>>24754400
why are you trying to make this shitty meme relevant again

How do they prevent the situation of sergey becoming greedy and selling the locked 350 million?

>>24755937
Gas savings may not be enough, curious if Arbitrum is cognizant enough to incentivize liquidity, the standard defi give away governance tokens model won’t be applicable here but perhaps they have something creative lined up.


>>24755600
>>24755399
Checked and excellent posts, op is a gentlemen and a scholar

>pic unrelated

>>24756024
But he will probably continue the dumps... just using it for expansion instead of operating. Many fine companies die a sudden by over expending. Bastard so greedy he wants a hand in every pot. Dont thinks the dumps will be decreasing anytime soon. The project is in a even higher risk category now than before.

>>24755665
Best guess:
GPI is basically a permissioned (r3) ledger to make account-account transfers cheaper and faster
GPI chain link is the oracle/smart contract enabled product. Remember SWIFT is just the bank's collective so anything that triggers more payments, more currency conversions etc is good for them.

From what I can see this is the lynchpin for the real value of smart contracts: taking legacy agreements that take weeks to settle and cost thousands and make them fully automated and fully integrated with existing business backends (and make SWIFT member banks a cut every time one executes)

>>24755684
chain.link
>>24755703
Again, you need to think more deeply
We are seeing a sexual market selection event right now. Men who are stupid or weak enough to give resources without getting prime sexual returns deserve to have their genes wiped from the gene pool.
In a generation the concept of being a simp will be as repulsive as people currently view being a "racist" as. Ironically at that point everyone will be understood to be somewhat racist and it will be accepted (as it has been throughout the entirety of human history)

>>24755720
Nice try
>>24755725
No
>>24755726
Effectively yes, however link from that pool can be used in other ways as well
In general link use that creates new features and customers for the chainlink network I view as price neutral to positive
link used to keep nodes solvent because skelly is two years behind with scaling

>>24755497
And I still find it so hard To say what I need to say But I'm quite sure that you'll tell me Just how I should feel today.

>>24755831
If only there was a well researched proprietary proof involved...
https://blog.chain.link/threshold-signatures-in-chainlink/
>>24755906
Thanks for showing how cool you are
Everyone now knows that you're the coolest
>>24755937
Maybe it's moonboy delusion but I think once arbitrum launches it's over
The baseline requirements are what matter for porting and arbitrum tromps everything else with an already established pool of extreme uptime nodes
Think also about what happens to assets ported to L2?
What is the point of L1 Link and how often will it actually be used outside of fiat exchange after all of the functionality of eth is available at 1/10th to 1/100th the cost?

>>24755940
It's not that hard
Current: high link payments to nodes that are sold for eth to keep node operators able to post aggregations and results to chain
OCR: low link payments to nodes that are now paying way less gas and so are selling way less link
>>24756024
this
>>24756035
hey thanks glad to be here
>>24756065
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/677
>>24756093
He's actually a holder and is so weak a human being that he doesn't have the balls to be confident in his investment
>>24756118
See above, it's ego defense
>>24756128
It's not his to sell
>>24756164
Next level would think that maybe a uniswap type integrated solution would be of value to banks doing cross border payments to offer their fiat exchanges with minimal slippage....

>>24756649
How does arbitrum compare to optimism

How much EOY 2025 sir?

>>24754246
how many LINK do u hold? are u a VC bro?

>>24754414
You forgot keep3r. That will enable neet nodes.

>>24754246
are you an insider?

>>24754246
Jake Brukhman endorses API3 https://youtu.be/JBw19P7-a2o

>>24756578
Nice try? I'm serious.. im not trying to fud....

>>24756870
Now that I think about this, I also want to know, what's OP's point of view on Keep3r and how does he think it will affect the Chainlink network in the short-mid term?

>>24756978
For the same reason he likes arbitrum, he should like keep3r. It enables people without proprietary data access to run Chainlink nodes, get paid and start building rep.

How do you think the current US dollar inflation situation will effect DeFi specifically?

>>24756202
Can you show a single example of money used by the chainlink team that hasn't added value to the project?

>>24757065
Lol. No one even knows where the money goes, how could anyone answer that? But it’s hard trying to justify 10s of millions a month.

>>24754246
recently docusign posted saying blockchain was too expensive to use (something about transactions costing a dollar vs the current pennies). 1. were they refering to link? 2. will any of the upgrades/features (tsigs, arbitrum/ocr) on link fix that or no ?

>>24757065
I can't because they don't disclose anything... you ask them, they just tell you everything is on the block for all to see.

Be 2017, 32 million dollar bank roll. You and your bestie. Laser focused. You have control over almost every aspect of development and operation.... vs 2021, team of 50-500? Needs to funding to continue operation expense and onboard both employee and future nodes and clients. An efficient manager can supervise maybe 5 employees, he cannot effectively overall operation of 50+. The dumps aren't going to stop just because the gas fees are going to be less now.

I never called Link a shit coin or project. But if you can't see the risk involved with rapid and over extension of a start-up company... you fren are drinking too much kool aid.

There is no guarantee. Everybody and their mother though DocuSign was a lock.... look at what happened. What ever Gonsor got compensated for is now GONE SIR.

>>24757253
This. Really sad actually. Linkies just have to ignore it. Same with XRP, both of these "projects" wouldnt be solvent if they didn't dump tokens. In fact Garlinghouse literally said this. However the amount Sergay dumps is really tragic. It's basically the new XRP with even less of a viable future. It's going to be around for a long time and eventually bleed out.

>>24757306
looks like you answered what i feared>>24757290

>>24756742
Technically there are a few tradeoffs between the two products but really the biggest difference is the onus for the project: arbitrum is purpose built for the kind of costs and throughputs needed for true enterprise use including the autoswap between quorum mode (AnyTrust) and standard multi round rollup.
You can read here:
https://medium.com/offchainlabs/whats-up-with-rollup-db8cd93b314e
https://medium.com/offchainlabs/how-arbitrum-rollup-works-39788e1ed73f?
In practice arbitrum does all of this that optimism doesn't:
- Supports swapping between the above modes, which is needed for 100x+ cost reduction (and similar throughput increases)
- Supports lower gas costs for very complex contracts, which enables the highest value use cases
- Allows for native code ports of existing contracts which lowers the barrier of entry and, crucially, allows for one of the biggest golden tickets: automated swapping of contract code execution locations as a function of the contract itself...
Not exaggerating when I say Ed is hanging some big fucking dong on this one
>>24756786
No way to know. Probably more than now?
>>24756804
Lol. No.
>>24756870
It's one potential pathway in
>>24756874
No, I'm the anon that usually does this stuff
>>24756885
Good for him
>>24756893
Fresh and spicy
>>24756895
Ok
>>24756978
It's another satellite project to link. There will be literally millions once the full network is up.
>>24757035
keep3r has effectively none of the functionality of arbitrum
>>24757047
I think, like Sergey, that people are going to start looking for places where they are protected from inflation by math, rather than promises that have repeatedly been broken because of "extraordinary times"

>>24755725
Sergey is so handsome

>>24757306
>There is no guarantee. Everybody and their mother though DocuSign was a lock.... look at what happened. What ever Gonsor got compensated for is now GONE SIR
He's a advisor...
https://chain.link/team

>>24757439
ok since you don't want to answer my previous question...... what do you think about other oracles like band, tellor or api3?

What are your piece predictions or confidence intervals for the 2021/2022?

What is the difference between OCR and Threshold Signatures?

What do you think is the main purpose of Chainlink being so aggressive in growing / hiring at the moment?

>>24757253
I can show you some very strong investments the team has made:
https://twitter.com/bencxr?lang=en
>>24757290
This screamed pacing and leading to me.

"Hey guys blockchain is x too expensive to use now, but otherwise it's awesome"

"Hey, anyone heard about this chainlink/arbitrum thing that drops costs by 100x? sounds like something important right??"
>>24757306
You're really trying so hard
Are you a failure in all areas of life?
>>24757337
You two could be friends

>>24757467
Yes, He got paid. The connect and introduction he made didn't pan out. What's your point?

Docusign CEO is a retard. Comparing apples to oranges. OCR may decrease the overall cost, but it only goes to show the overall risk of overall industry rejection due to boomer mentalities.

>>24757444
Digits don't lie
>>24757467
Shhhh, they don't want facts and logic
>>24757492
The oracle race is a race to secure the highest value real world data sources and real world contract outputs. Those projects are in the oracle game in as much as they have secured those inputs and outputs as resources on their networks.
>>24757502
No idea. All I know about OCR at current is there are parallels to standard price feeds on the link network visualization site. I would guess given what we know about Tsigs that these are Tsig enabled price feeds
I think that Chainlink is in a dream position and playing things properly: everyone wants to work for them and the real raw talent pool in their field is small. If someone like Benedict comes along they should have all the ammo in the world to snatch them up. Those kinds of investments nearly always bear fruit.

>>24757626
Do you ever get embarrassed by being wrong over and over again?
Or are you just not intelligent enough to have shame?

>>24757522
>You're really trying so hard
>Are you a failure in all areas of life?
No, are you? I thought we were making non BS arguments here, instead of personal attack.

OP what happened to Oracle's embarrassing Chainlink startups program, and their planned integration Q3?

The problem with Link isn't technical, it's a fundamental issue. It's a solution to a nonexistent problem.

Bitcoin solved trustlessness.

Everything that came after it uses the decentralized moniker without actually earning or actualizing it.

Link fails and will fail because data processes don't need to be insured by a third party that stakes a cryptocurrency to protect a piece of information that is sourced from another third party. Importantly, Oracles can't see truth, they can only retrieve information. If the original information is bad, the Oracle doesn't care. The Oracle is only grabbing information that could already be faulty in the first place, from the same source a typical data provider would retrieve it!! Only to send it immutably! The implications of this are ridiculous.

Data processes happen at an incalculable rate right now, they're flying through your skull as we speak in fact. If you could see the visual spectrum of these wireless frequencies you'd be awestruck. They're all happening securely and accurately at a mind bending rate.

Link is a complex solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Because it can be connected to everything, it achieves the same audience as XRP does, and you have a ton of followers that think they're two steps ahead of the curve but are really going no where. Logic is mostly futile, it's going to take years for projects like this to eventually die or be mostly regulated to rare niche use.

>>24757666
Even kek thinks you're the devil.
Please tell me Gonsor didn't get paid by Sergey. Please tell me docusign connect went well.

>>24757672
I've made nothing but reasoned arguments.
For example, you've shown that you have a lot of time on your hands and very little intelligence.
That is almost universally associated with being someone who has no value to others, in other words a failure in life.
Which you are, right?
>>24757704
I would guess that they spent a small amount of link for a small amount of publicity
Like almost every other startup project
I wouldn't expect a true enterprise offering until scaling through arbitrum is live
>>24757721
Classic "I want to think bitcoin is something special" maximalist cope.
>>24757729
Gonser is still getting paid and still providing value
https://chain.link/team
Stupid

why did the docusign guy betray

>>24757795
>Classic "I want to think bitcoin is something special" maximalist cope.

Lol, there'd be no Link without Bitcoin silly goose. Nice ad hominem by the way. After 10 years no other crypto has utility or adoption and the only use for this blockchain thing is by solving an immutable, trustless, borderless, programmable, sleepless store of value with Bitcoin. Brand new asset class all its own. Not special.

>>24757799
He did not
>>24757883
Remind me when bitcoin's genesis block was?
And remind me when Sergey started working on smart contracts?

>>24757795
>Gonser is still getting paid and still providing value
Please tell me what value? He was the ticket to get into docusign, that didn't pan out. So move on.

Don't equate Value to price. Eth is more valuable now then 3 years ago. $1400 vs $550. Sergery will continue to dump, price will continue be suppressed. The value of the project may be increasing, but that doesn't equate to price.

I'm in it for the $. If the tech happens too, that's great. If the tech fails, but we all make it, cry me a fcking river, couldn't care less.

>>24757795
So what was the slide in their presentation about Q3? Did Oracle completely shit the bed on this? Where is Keane/Ribeiro these days?

Why is Benedict Chan such a key hire? I know about his career history but interested in your perspective - what key areas do you think he will be working on?

What do you think of the Chainlink/ WEF whitepaper ?

Do you think the game theory of staking can be solved by Ari Juels and team? What do you think they are mainly working on at the moment?

>>24757920
You have arguably the smartest developers in the world all in cryptocurrency right now. 10 years and billions in R&D. Nothing. Tens of thousands of cryptocurrencies. Not even a hiccup of a use case, in fact you'd think someone would have tripped over use case by now. The only thing people seem to use this blockchain thing for is with Bitcoin as a store of value. Link and others took a small element to Bitcoin, centralized it, continuously dump tokens on investors heads, and are de facto private companies being packaged it like the next Bitcoin when ironically they are the exact opposite.

>>24754781
god dam layer 2 is such a goddam meme. I was hoping arbitrum would not need extra bullshit steps to use

>>24757985
>thinking oracle gave a fuck about chainlink, and it wasnt just the gravel god and his fat piece of shit brother from “oracle brazil” attempting to pump their own bags through twitter

This is why all the smart ppl left link @ 20$

>>24757065
Hiring Adelyn to do their spelling ;)
jk, just swinging by to say wassup OP, good thread as always

>>24754246
As you may well know. The culture on this board had been growing exponentially and continues to drive progress forward.

As a long time holder and lurker of this board I have been struggling to understand the future of this board and where it will go after the inevitable singularity of chainlink coming soon.

So my question to you OP is a very simple but complex one...

Does /biz/ need flags? Thank you.

>>24758128
>reddit spacing
>holds chainlink
Confirmed faggot. You.have.to.go.back.

>>24754246
Why did sergey betray

>>24757721
>>The Oracle is only grabbing information that could already be faulty in the first place, from the same source a typical data provider would retrieve it!!

lol.

>>24758432
>2 posts by this ID
Sir.
I do not understand
What this reddit spacing is.
If you are afraid of Flags because you are an Indian scammer
Then I understand

I, however.
Am
Not
From
Reddit
Good day to you sir.

Will LINK ever be worth more than BTC?

>>24758587
Come on baby
Check it went and see
I've got a fever of one hundred and three

>>24758493
Amazing isn't it. The information has to come from somewhere lol. The Oracle is only blindingly grabbing it. In terms of things like insurance policies or what have you, the fact that it's immutable makes the system even more broken. If there is an issue or nuance, then you need a paradoxical intervention. Chainlink says the data is good but the source can be broken. Hello? Well then what is the point! A gambling website deals with innumerable data feeds, all of them need to be 100% accurate and secure, otherwise risking a chain reaction of financial destruction. No problem.

They'll get it eventually, even if they don't understand why it didn't live up to whatever billion dollar valuation it has now.

>>24757920
Don't shill what your holding, but name drop or clue or something. I sort of know when to spot good posts and you made some good posts. What else are you eyeing? How about I trade you some good projects in exchange? (hns, edg) not the best things out there but I'm just interested in what else you could be buying. Thanks.

>>24757945
>im hardcore and only care about money
>im angry at the best performing asset in all of crypto
>>24757985
It was an estimate. I think the team thought arbitrum (rollups only) would be up by now.
I did.
>>24757999
wBTC is the 17th largest crypto and the person who made it happen just joined chainlink
imagine if spagni and sarang noether left xmr to join cardano, it's just something that doesn't happen.
I would guess that he'll be working on all of the wrapping/unwrapping of assets to port to level 2. I would guess that the final enterprise offering is just chainlink inputs and outputs with arbitrum executions all within a contained system with eth getting some encoded prints to keep the system trustworthy
Staking I think will just be for non-response at first and will never need to go past that. I think the incentive to keep the gravy train going will be so strong that the concept of a named node intentionally delivering bad data would be like a named bank stealing some private user's funds for profit.
>>24758025
They supply the data feeds that has made the 10bn+ defi market exist
And that's just the beginning
>>24758044
Did you read any of the links?
The whole point is that it directly ports
Can you read?
>>24758050
Everyone is still here
>>24758074
She's covefeing her way to confuscian honor
>>24758128
Yes srs
>>24758432
>>24758464
>>24758493
No

The WEF paper

>>24758654
Yeah I did. I got to the part where you need to get a test net token from them to use their L2. How much better would this be vs using chai?

Chainlink chads have the highest IQ

>>24758618
Once Sally in purchasing can log in and docusign a purchase order using accord/openlaw boilerplate agreements that funds in USD and delivers in JPY chainlink will be worth 10x what BTC is worth
>>24758628
Its almost like you're willfully ignorant
>>24758650
If you actually lurk /biz/ and read only the intelligent threads, you'll find all of the real value cases in crypto
You could literally outperform every professional investor just by reading /biz/ and understanding the culture

>>24758720
Biz has been shit or I’m missing out on good thread the 8hrs I’m sleeping

>>24758690
Your argument is that their beta test offering on testnet requires you to use a testnet asset?
Life must be impossibly hard for you
>>24758703
Truly

>>24758733
There is another possibility...

>>24758754
I’m willing to admit that is a possibility

>>24758720
Name 1 intelligent thread in the past 2 months

>>24754781
>Yes, when depends on when link payouts drop because price reference feeds fully convert to offchain aggregation
Just so I understand this correctly: Chainlink is very expensive right now due to high gas prices. This means Sergey needs to subsidize the ecosystem heavily, which causes high levels of sell pressure. Once Arbitrum goes live and is deemed secure, price feeds will migrate and the sell pressure will vanish?

how can a project be decentralized when the founder owns 50%+ of the supply?

>>24758803
Essentially. Once the the scaling stuff falls into place and the cost of usage drops 5-100x I would imagine seeing a delayed but similar rise in network utilization. Usage will be bigger than the oversupply issue. Network utilization drives the value of the network as neatly outlined in things like Metcalfe's law.

>>24758803
Sergey need to get more people hooked on link network first. It’s plausible he’s the one performing oracles “attacks” just to get everyone to switch

>>24758859
*probable

>>24754919
>How much is one one billionth permanent proportional ownership of the internet of value worth?
I'm not sure I really understand this. Link isn't the data, it's a way to secure and transfer the data. Assuming the Link will be worth the same as the data itself doesn't seem right to me.

>>24758802
Richard, Jerry. This is a great idea, I’ve never considered giving the threads names before.

>>24754246
in a world of lies, especially trump's world, much is truths worth?

LINK just partnered with The Graph. What do you think this partnership means and how important is The Graph for the crypto space?

>>24758802
There were discussions of the latest large git commit for link, discussions of emission curves and transactions volumes with historic price ratios for other assets etc.
>>24758803
Node costs drop with offchain reporting and thresshold signatures
All contract execution costs drop with arbitrum
>>24758811
Decentralized networks allow free participation and contain game theory correct incentives such that proper behavior is most profitable.
Chainlink fits both
>>24758859
This is truly devious, but likely untrue
I would guess it is more likely to be a dev in one of the many many defi protocols out there who would have the expertise
>>24758886
It is ownership of the monetization pathway for the data
Without link the major value of the data doesn't exist

what the hell is deco? I've heard of it but didn't go through the trouble of reading through it

>>24758993
Thanks for the good thread OP, it's been a while.

What's your take on all Chainlink haters: Compound's Leshner, Makerdao's Nik Kunkel, Vitalik, ... there just appears to be a huge dislike for chainlink and their solution. Is it them missing out, or is it something else?

>>24758654
>They supply the data feeds that has made the 10bn+ defi market exist
>And that's just the beginning

Sigh. These are speculative investments, not monies serving financial instrumentation. A lot of hopeful money.

>Its almost like you're willfully ignorant
Good luck.

>>24754246
Hey man, I'm always enjoying your threads, keep up the good work and Sergey bless you

>>24755399

Where can I find your other written works?

What discords do you frequent to drop some knowledge?

What telegrams do you frequent to drop some knowledge?

>>24758977
It sounds like you need to remediate your English class
>>24758979
I think the graph faces serious headwinds with respect to their approach to monetizing apis
>>24759089
Deco is effectively just the software only version of TEE's/Towncrier
No more dependence on SGX/Intel
>>24759094
If you're big enough there are always going to be haters
Each of them has a really good reason:
Compound: proudly uses their own oracle and gets publicly assfucked with no lube because of it. While their asshole still bleeds they get flooded with "i told you so" from every link holder
Makerdao: thought they made something revolutionary but really just built a simple iteration of an entirely new field of value: defi
That field is entirely dependent on chainlink now
Vitalik: scrawny idealistic commie from a rich family (like they all are) sees his baby being turned into a profit machine by those same meanie chads who he was sure were done for this time!
Also Ed felten stealing ETH's scaling thunder had to hurt. Imagine getting Eth2 fully off the ground in 2024 and having literally nobody care because everything is already live and working on arbitrum. Sad skelly.

>>24759104
You sound less and less convinced of your own position

>>24759115
Always a pleasure to be with the fine folks of 4chan
>>24759132
Doesn't matter who I am
Fuck discord
Fuck telegram

>>24757439


How does arbitrum change the landscape for the current Defi projects.

Will it enhance or make irrelevant most of the "bluechip" defi projects.

YFI, COMP, SNX, AAVE etc...

and the up and comers

SFI, ALPHA, COVER, COL, K3PR, FARM etc....

>>24758993
>It is ownership of the monetization pathway for the data. Without link the major value of the data doesn't exist
Yes but that still doesn't necessarily mean the value of the Link network contains the value of what it enables. The value of cargo ships is less than the value of the cargo they transfer over their lifespans. By what mechanism would Link actually capture that level of value in this particular use case?

>>24758877
Check my digits

>>24758654
estimate on Arbiturm completion. At least rollups?

>>24758993
What headwinds are they facing? I thought LINK and The Graph compliment eachother very well and their project is already adopted by giants like Uniswap and AAVE.

OP, do you believe in 1000$ possibility?

WILL I MAKE IT OP I AM SO GODDAMN TIRED OF WAGEKEKING AND I ONLY HAVE 35K LINKIES BECAUSE I DIDNT HAVE MUCH MONEY IN 2017 AND 2018 AAAAAAAAUUGGHHHHH

>>24754246
What exactly is link's value based on and what is the ath we can expect? Yes I'm a retard who bought it at 12$

>>24759213
>Deco is effectively just the software only version of TEE's/Towncrier
No more dependence on SGX/Intel
Thank you, I think I got the general idea but I won't waste your time, will dredge through it myself.

>>24759423
That's not a question of possibility, but of time. We will probably not see it in this bull cycle, but within a few years that price tag is a certainty.

>>24758628
Im not on your side idiot, you're delusional.

>>24759213
how do you handle not getting burnt out? serious question. im on here every waking momment and anytime i try to read tech documents my brain will not process the information.

Great thread as always.
Are you looking at running your own node? Thoughts on LinkPool?

>>24757290
>>24757522

They are literally priming the public/enterprises for Chainlink/Arbitrum solution. Its simply raising awareness first of the problem. Gonser already knows how to solve it.

>>24759498
Why you still waging lol. You should have over 100k by now

>>24757945

Sergey isn't the one suppressing the price. We are simply in accumulation again by large players. Once its only wash trading at this price range they and aren't convincing anyone else to sell through temporary price action or demoralization/wearing you down through time they raise the price to a new epoch to encourage die hard holders and then repeat the process.

>>24759213
So why did Belly betray Skelly??

>>24759269
Just wanted to tell you that you are a based man, anon. I recognize you from other threads and am glad to have people like you here.

T. 10k linklet

>>24754246
New fag here. I've got $6k usd to spend on. Is Link going to drop in price any time in the next few months or should I just hop on now?

>>24759269
Do you think the leading defi project won the race within their categories? Do you look into L1 eth alternatives as investments? What is you thought on smartcredit, a p2p credit loan platform?
Appreciate sharing your thoughts.

Op how much link fo you have? What's your first target for cashing some out?

>>24754246
>please help
>last week we double dumped on the 1 million token sale
>we need to recover the price a bit to cover Sergey's toxic financing.
Fuck off. Sunday is dump day. News does not move LINK. It is just the weekly dumps and CZs bots. Fuck off.

Has anyone any idea, what other projects OP is looking at? I recall his investment thesis "I generally look for true investment monopoly and true value case orthogonality- that means that every bet i have outside of link is non-overlapping with link's value case."

My best guess would be leading defi protocols like aave, snx, yfi

>>24759314
use as collateral

I have £1000 to invest. Tell me why, in 2 - 5 sentences (however many you feel like), I should invest in LINK.

>>24760749
dyor. reasearch. nulinker. 4. 5.

>>24760803
This is LITERALLY a spoonfeeding thread. I am asking to be spoonfed as appropriate.

>>24760822
Just read OP's replies. It sums it up very well.

>>24757439
>It's one potential pathway in

It'll be a pathway before Arbitrum, I bet. Keep3r is already up and running jobs on mainnet, just a matter of having those jobs be run by CL nodes. To be clear, I'm also excited for Arbitrum, I just think Keep3r will beat them to CL neet nodes.

>>24760867
Also I wasn't saying keep3r has Arbitrum's features, they do completely different things. Just saying Keep3r will enable CL neet nodes like Arbitrum.

>>24754246
Also what are your thoughts on XRP? Off topic i know but the two projects seem adversarial at least in regard to their respective communities so if I could get your take on that, would be great. TIA

>>24760895
>TIA
Fuck you rediff

>>24759293
It effectively decreases their primary cost: gas
>>24759314
I think you are conflating the value of the data and the value transferred as triggered by high quality data
For example, getting an accurate eth/usd price is relatively easy and can be split between a large number of parties that need it. That value can be used to trustlessly bridge between fiat and decentralized worlds, unlocking large amounts of value
Everyone loves talking about how derivatives are 1.4 quadrillion. The issuers of these derivatives get the data and do the executions in return for a cut of that 1.4 quadrillion.
Link is access to that cut for the entire economy.
>>24759382
Best guess is limited release for launch partners who help beta test in jan/feb 2021
Anytrust before q2 (which makes literally any smart contract use case cost feasible)
>>24759416
Tell me how you determine the value of an API within a smart contracts economy and you have your answer
>>24759423
Yes, but I would be doubtful that it will happen as fast as people would like
That said I've been very wrong on both the upsides and downsides before
Like assblaster said, crypto is not limited by paying traditional overheads so bubbles can happen and pop with much much more force than in traditional markets
Imagine for a second that one or two financial firms start offering smart contract based products and suddenly every business thinks they need to smart contract their business model
And imagine this is happening at the same time that professional passive staking services are offering 1-2% (dynamically in addition to the appreciation of link itself)
You could easily see a situation where there really isn't a motivation to sell link at all and there are a lot of people who really, really want to buy...

>>24759667
100k gets you a cardboard box in cities anon

>>24759498
You sound now like someone whining they only bought 20 btc in 2017
>>24759514
We'll see regional ATHs like we currently do, but since the team keeps adding value and customers I'd guess the network's value will increase more slowly but more linearly than 99% of crypto products
Of note I made that prediction two years ago and nobody listened
>>24759633
This is where all of /biz/ is fucking stupid:
If you think you are sitting on future wealth, you should be scared as shit about it destroying you. You should be working on making your life solid now so that when you do get rich you have the maturity and social safety net you need to not destroy yourself. After you're rich there will be beautiful smart women who will seriously fuck you up and leave you broke. There will be luxury goods designed to make you think you need them and spit you out a broke loser.
Money doesn't fix things, it amplifies them
I'd make sure I was rock solid and would hope I didn't become filthy rich before I was

>>24760940
>You could easily see a situation where there really isn't a motivation to sell link at all and there are a lot of people who really, really want to buy...
Op please I beg you, I can only get so erect

>>24759639
Kicking myself for being a pussy burger and not buying a real stack of linkpool
Just the ability to stake with someone you know is legit is incredibly valuable, especially early in the network
>>24759646
Really does smell like that
>>24759667
Because he's smart and at least somewhat disciplined
If you think stopping work with 35k link right now is smart you deserve your future poverty
>>24759744
No betrayal, just a harsh dose of reality for a stick thin millionaire who still can't find acceptance
>>24759961
Happy to be here
>>24760008
No idea but generally lump buy > DCA
>>24760044
I worry about any protocol that doesn't have any intrinsic monopoly protection
That said I've been wrong on these before
I think once viable L2 eth networks are live it's a brutal ugly race to $0 per execution for every other network
p2p credit is an intrinsic problem in that people who are good borrowers are already strongly competed for
You're basically trying to find those people the banks can't or won't lend to
That historically doesn't work out well
>>24760238
Plenty
I sell a small portion of my stack every month and will continue to do so until Link makes up less than 80% of my net worth
>>24760498
Ok
>>24760526
For the record I don't own any defi protocols
>>24760636
One mechanism of the value capture
>>24760749
If you don't have the discipline to look into it yourself, don't buy link
>>24760822
Yep, you did
>>24760867
You may well be right, I've been wrong about these things before
>>24760895
I think that there are a very large number of red flags and I think that when I watch interviews with any team member other than Jed I wonder if there are any truly intelligent people making decisions there

>>24754246
OP great thread. Thanks for spoonfeeding nulinkers and linklets alike. What do you think are the biggest challenges (internal team; or external threats) the team faces that will most likely cause either major setback or total failure?

>>24761159
Hey OP thanks for the thread. Why do you think the price has not gone up in response to the WEF paper? I can't imagine a much bigger partnership to be announced.

>>24754246
Make a guess as to the next big name to join the Chainlink team and why.

>>24761016
>I'd make sure I was rock solid and would hope I didn't become filthy rich before I was
i have no interest in getting wealth to buy shit. i have no money and dont need it other then buying the basic of stuff like food and housing. I was only doing this so i could walk around with a sense of pride or accomplishment so i wasn't the lowest rung amongst my peers. i dont even care about that anymore. Only thing i care about is making sure my line does'nt get wiped from history and money is the only way to go about that. Looking to have as many kids as possible but to support them i need land to be self sustainable.

>>24761159
Thanks OP. What specifically are the red flags you see in XRP? No need to go into detail just rattle the first few that come into your head, and i'll DMOR from there.

>tfw only 1,200 LINK
not fussed about "making it btw", if this stack alone makes it to the equivalent of $800,000 I'm selling most of it

Untold riches are upon you my brothers

>>24754246
Where do you see the price of LINK climbing to this bull cycle? Are you ever going to sell?

>>24761195
Who?

>>24754246
Any good videos on link on the jewtubes?

>>24761170
Total failure would have to be something legal/political eg banning of certain kinds of financial instuments as a "thank you" to legacy banking from their favored political party
Major setback: critical security flaw in any of the upcoming node offerings eg DECO, arbitrum, tsigs
>>24761183
I see really 4 potential buyers of link now:
Early adopter individuals: already all in
Other individual crypto investors: already married to their investments and decision process
Early adopter institutions: already have link exposure but could buy more. The WEF paper might make them throw some limit orders under the current spread
Most institutions: still think crypto outside of value transfer is a scam. Will take actual revenue streams to change their minds
WEF means something to those who found the crumbs years ago, to everyone else it's another meaningless "partnership"
>>24761195
Anderson/Spencer?
>>24761235
I'd bet money on women destroying you
>>24761271
If i have a product who says "we are the interbank value transfer network" and a bunch of banks try me out and pass, I'd be worried
>>24761277
Or you could be smart and sell small parts at given intervals
>>24761286
Lets hope

What's your take on the intended audience for the WEF paper? I found it very dense, and with a lot of assumed knowledge about distributed systems and smart contracts, to the extent that anyone who could actually follow it start to finish probably understands Chainlink already.

>>24761478
>I'd bet money on women destroying you
Kek ill find out i guess. I already know how disgusting they are. looking forward to being tested though

>>24761478
>WEF means something to those who found the crumbs years ago, to everyone else it's another meaningless "partnership"
To me it means getting rich while everyone else eats bugs. Thanks for your time, OP.

>>24761159
I believe you could like DIP/NXM in this case.
How do you spend your time?

>>24761379
No idea
I already do
>>24761477
Search Sergey Nazarov and sort results by date starting with earliest
He was really loose lipped about what link was early on
>>24761525
I think it was actually just "the WEF says it's OK to plug your legacy systems into this new chainlink thing and you will make/save money by doing so"

>>24761586
Thanks will do.

>>24761016
>35k link will only be worth 20 btc ($370,000) or $10.57 per link
FUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>24761159
But BofA, Santander, AmEx, MoneyGram, Standard Chartered, Royal Bank of Canada, DBS all currently use XRP?

Thank you anon. do you know any other place other than biz to spot opportunities early?

>>24761542
I should write another post on how to properly use money on women. I wish you luck
>>24761545
I could see decentralized systems creating wealth inequality that makes current look like nothing
Imagine one class of people who transact and save in assets that always appreciate against the asset class that another class of people use
>>24761561
With my family
>>24761623
spicy fash
>>24761667
You say that
answer this: how much value do those institutions transfer daily?
How much of that value is transferred over xcurrent?
How much of the xcurrent value translates to any action whatsoever on xrapid?

>>24761586
>I think it was actually just "the WEF says it's OK to plug your legacy systems into this new chainlink thing and you will make/save money by doing so"
There's definitely the idea that it creates the template for the "general standards" of connecting legacy to DLT, with Chainlink right in the middle, but reading around the Chainlink stuff it's also interesting to note the co-writers, reviewers and the examples given.
This was essentially an Indian document, making the case for smart contract systems managing things like the Indian government's crop insurance scheme across different departments.
It was notably reviewed by Chief Counsel for the International Finance Corporation of The World Bank Group, which is an entity dedicated to providing loans and support to private enterprise in developing countries.
For me the WEF document was two things: 1) A chance for Sergey to lay out his "full product offering" as it stands now, in terms of a diverse toolkit of functions which allow for simple and secure legacy onboarding to DLT, and 2) A chance for Sergey to actually scratch his "make the world a better place" itch by laying out how smart contracts will improve fairness, reliability and security for even the weakest participants in the global economy.

But I'm still interested in who it was aimed at. My tentative guess is that it's for CTOs who already have a comprehensive understanding of Chainlink and DLT, who now have an authoritative document on the state of play for bridging the gap.

>>24761791
>I should write another post on how to properly use money on women. I wish you luck
pls do i'll be waiting

>>24761791
>I should write another post on how to properly use money on women. I wish you luck
im all ears any and all advice is appreciated.

>>24761791
What would you recommend a young adult to become truly happy in this world, that happen to hold link? I know its very specific, but some general do's and dont's would be highly appreciated.

>>24761791
I think your referring to a an old story about Santander, who partnered with Ripple (and are still working with Ripplenet) but decided not to use their ODL tech right off the bat. Makes sense for banks to dip a toe in first before plunging in straight away.

when will you come back? and why do you care about frogs?

>>24761791
how do i use the arbitrum burner wallet? looks for it on the medium but not finding anything in particular

>>24761525
Enterprise CTOs and government initiatives.

Basically this is a paper chainlink can send to legacy entreprises and say look we have the credibility of the WEF backing us, now they'll be likely to listen more carefully. What's likely going to happen is that link will start on boarding more reputable enterprise nodes like t systems, and there will be more enterprise proof of concepts, either through baseline or directly via chainlink. We know EY will announce something next year, docusign is really eager to jump in but they're waiting for costs to be slashed (ie they're on the sideline waiting to see how eth2/l2/tsigs develop and mature). Sergey now has open doors with all the big players and institutions.

That combined with the massive scaling up (bd, marketing), I don't think it's outrageous to predict link will have a stellar 2021 with lots of huge announcements, this could definitely be a mainstream awareness year, and it remains the only asset with this kind of exposure potential.

The paper also basically hints at the pajeet gov doing a decentralized insurance poc with chainlink at some point, now of course we love to laugh at the pajeets but it would still be a major step for chainlink to be recognized by a government entity after China. Do not under estimate the clout of the WEF and the dedication of Sergey.

So chainlink is securing more than 5 billions in DeFi. This doesn’t add to chainlink marketcap. What would happen when chainlink secures trillions of CeFi?

> oracle integration dropped like a bad date, no news or update, just never happened
> no staking eoy
> no arbitrum eoy
> dev dumping going ballistic
> even fucking tsigs now Q2 estimate

PAIN

>>24761998
Great answer. The only part I'm tentative about is whether this gets traction in 2021, or 2022.
I think the whole ETH2.0/Arbitrum sidechains/scaling thing could take longer than anticipated, only because it generally does. And until we have that low cost/high throughput system humming along there won't be anything significant happening at scale.

>>24761791
I hate to be that guy, but would you be open to using a tripcode in the future? I'd be eager for your insight down the road browsing through warosu.

>>24761682
It is hard to beat /biz/ but there is one other trend that is currently useful and a hell of a lot of fun: find the coolest/most interesting men you can and start an encrypted chat with them (signal or wickr). Talk about real shit there and make sure it's all off the record. If you come across someone really unique/interesting invite them in
There are opportunities in every field and sometimes that kind of thing drops a real golden goose
>>24761799
You could be right but I would guess that 95/100 CTOs still can't tell you what ethereum is at current
>>24761852
>>24761861
Will do another day and link this thread
>>24761869
This is a hard question.

First: find out what you truly believe about the big questions in life. You can't be a good Athiest if you haven't read the Bible, Quaran, Talmud, Book of Mormon and you can't be a good modern Christian without reading Hitchens, Dawkins etc.
Even a strong scientologist will be happier believing in xenus volcanoes than an agnostic who doesn't even know what he believes

From there decide what has true value to you and start pursuing it. This can be hard because often you're starting from far behind, but this is also a misconception. It's change that makes you happy, not the absolute state. Even if you're fighting an impossible losing battle you'll be happier with purpose than someone doing nothing. I have a bizarre life where I interact with people at the very top of the food chain and very bottom as well and I can tell you a homeless drug addict who is clean for a week and has a roof over their head is happier than a trust fund kid fucking their hundredth Slovak model.

Finally after you've achieved some element of success, decide what your absolute morals are (those for which you'd be willing to die) and relax within those bounds. One the truly idiodic parts of modern society is this notion you should work to become successful and then not enjoy it in a responsible manner. This is wrong on every level...

>>24762083
and even harms the people it proports to help. People need aspirational figures who are happy and having fun. To try and win the self denial virtue signaling olympics forever is just another form of protecting insecurity and thereby living dishonestly.

if it's so great and so incredible why can only a handful of people see that after 3 years? don't you think you might just be jerking eachother off with bias because you're invested? ETH maxis and other alt holders see chainlink as mainly hype

Please explain why there is KYC required to run a node. Please explain why once I set up a node I have to advertise it. I just want to run a node for passive income and all this shit sounds like work.

>>24754246
Does this coin have potential for another 10x or even 100x

>>24761902
Again, what is the volume of transfers going over XRPs network as a whole and what proportion of that transfer even remotely touches the XRP asset?
>>24761914
You can never leave
Neither can I
>>24761987
Looks like it's only testnet right now
>>24761998
Could be right
>>24762012
When chainlink secured 1bn in defi its price was 1/5 of now...really makes you think
>>24762037
Ok
>>24762074
I'm NFCDL amongst other things

>>24762173
>Looks like it's only testnet right now
yeah i got the tokens but im confused what they are for i sent them to a rando adress and it was fast as shit. Like browsing a webpage fast. Im confused on what the arbtoken is for and how to use them. Trying to get test eth not to fuck around with the bridge

>>24762173
>NFCDL
Everything clicked together now. Thanks, and godspeed anon.

Didn't know arbitrum was going to have it's own token. Any reason to buy it?

I've run out of time to research anything lately, been doing 12 hour shifts 6 days a week...

>>24762173

LINK price prediction next year summer?
Will we be at 30$ again? PLZ answer, I need some hopium :D.

>>24762173
Favorite work by Plotinus?

>>24762173
Thank you for your replies, powerful stuff.
This seem to be the major holdings of the top 2k link addresses minus exchanges (maybe ive overlooked some). Plus wales screw this chart up anyways.

>>24762334
Somewhere between $5 and $100

>>24754246
I have 650 stinky linkies. Will I make it?

>>24762108
This is true of literally every great investment
>>24762118
It is not
If you're mad that you have to do any kind of work to get paid then you are the problem
>>24762154
Come on now
>>24762281
Glad to be here
>>24762323
I don't believe it will
>>24762334
No idea
>>24762344
Can't say i've ever read any of his work
>>24762351
Thanks for sharing data
>>24762353
Not a bad guess

>>24762464
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY SALSANO

>>24762373
If your hands are strong enough


Done for the day- all the best to you one and all

>>24762323
no they said they wont but im playing with the test net and they have an arbtoken not sure what its for. Moving it around was very, very fast.

>>24762464
Then what's ARBI on arbiswap? I had literally no idea arbitrum was going to be a uniswap tier system, i just had it down as a back end system.

>>24758886
Its like investing in http in 1996

>>24762519
this is what i was confused about also. It pissed me off because its acting like every other L2 but the only difference will be chainlink shills behind it to give it the push. Now that i think about it the more complicated it is to use the less will know how to.

>>24754246
Will it really be $81,000 in a decade?

>>24754634
Chainlink god has taught me more than /biz/ has

>>24755383
The new WEF white paper explicitly says native token needed.

>>24762281
>>24762173
wtf is a NFCDL?
Niggers From Canada Drink Lysterine?

>>24762676

>>24762722
probably a telegram invite or some gay shit

>>24762522
perfectamundo

>>24757920
From
> lel bitcoin isn’t special you dumb maxi
To
> the reason bitcoin is so special is that it was written by Sergey

You are just trying to win arguments at this point. A classic case of mania, where “OP takes on the thread”. You were able to go about 1/3 of the thread before you started flinging shit, trying to get the last word over your detractors, play armchair psychologist and paint grandiose predictions of the future that has nothing to do with chainlink. Very messianic. Much complex. This always ends in burnout and depression.

>>24762323

Arbitrum won't have its own token. They will be using LINK. Why do you think LINKmarinese are so gungho about Arbitrum.

>>24762975
have you tried testing arbiswap? there is a token there. Looks like op posted about it but hasnt tested it himself

>>24762519

I don't think you get it. Arbitrum is its own layer in which Uniswap will be using.

>>24762564

After all this info dropped here thats what you think Arbitrum is?

https://dailyhodl.com/2020/12/12/investment-icon-ric-edelman-owns-bitcoin-and-ethereum-says-xrp-is-part-of-technological-revolution/

Absolute ropefuel for FUDders

>>24762998

I know, its a test token. go to the discord. They confirmed there is no token for the network

>>24763039
go test it for your self. I know about offchain computing and cost of gas reduction and people running nodes off chain and all the other stuff, A lot of which i cant use. From what im testing it looks like xdai with having to bride tokens

>>24763125

If your saying that there will be an xdai type token, i can believe that. Its a token for that particular dapp.

But thats very different than a network token.

>>24763062
He doesn't explain anything about why he included XRP

>>24758654
> I think the incentive to keep the gravy train going will be so strong that the concept of a named node intentionally delivering bad data would be like a named bank stealing some private user's funds for profit.
In the SmartCon presentation Sergey characterized the difference between new and old as the old way relying on trusting brands, with the trust for these brands being eroded, whereas the new way would be trustless and secured by math. If Chainlink is just a list of brands for you to trust, it is nothing. If staking doesn’t fulfill the promise of game theoretically sound disincentive to cheat, there is no future for link.

Thanks for this thread Anon. Ignore the low IQ posts by the jeets. What are your thoughts on smartcontact.com being redirected to chainlink labs?

>>24763157
im not saying there will be a token. I know there wil now be a token. I was on top of all this when they first dropped a medium post. I was just confused about it when testing everything is all.

>>24763196
>im not saying there will be a token. I know there wil not be a token. I was on top of all this when they first dropped a medium post. I was just confused about it when testing everything is all.

sorry typo
>>24763157

SERGEY BETRAY

>>24754246
Best argument against the Great Reset FUD that Chainlink is going to enslave and help usher in the NWO? I hold a comfy 10k stack. But I am worried about holding a beast system coin

>>24754246
Just buy and never sell its that easy

>>24763310
just hold it. If it turns out to be a beast coin every insider is going to count

I wish I'd asked him if he thinks the earth is flat. I do. Any other flat earthers in?

>>24756164

>>24761016
>Money doesn't fix things, it amplifies them
Very true

>>24763221


all good. We are all in this together.

>>24754246
100x during upcoming bullrun?

Will link reach $1500 usd by 2026?

$60 is near

whoa +250 replies. link isn’t dead after all.

>>24762083
>First: find out what you truly believe about the big questions in life. You can't be a good Athiest if you haven't read the Bible, Quaran, Talmud, Book of Mormon and you can't be a good modern Christian without reading Hitchens, Dawkins etc.
>Even a strong scientologist will be happier believing in xenus volcanoes than an agnostic who doesn't even know what he believes
kek. the more i read in this area, the closer i come to being an agnostic faggot. it's just obvious all of them are missing something. the best framework i came across in this space is that of donald hoffman. it may be wrong but at least it's precise

How will iExec RLC's Decentralized Oracles affect LINK?

>>24764119
um sweaty, it's dead

>>24764749
Like this.

>>24754448

You arent qualified to spoon feed on link when you are so new you reply to copypastas like that

>>24758128
>Does /biz/ need flags?
>>24758654
>Yes srs
Everything you have written has been disregarded from my brain. What a waste of time.

>>24765069
I counted over 4-5 grammatical errors

>>24765089
He always replies to everyone newfag

>>24762098
Damn. Well said.
Any great books/resources you would suggest to read in general?

>>24762083
Roughly how old are you anon?

>>24764706
>> you have to read Spinoza and Brahmaputra and Dawkins and the Bible and eat mushrooms before you can be a Christian or an atheist
> yeah, heh, well the more I read the less clear it all seems, maybe I’m agnostic
At this point (old, read a bunch) I think I’m ready to sum up my conclusion. The bottom line is that what you’re “supposed” to find out by breadth is that nobody holds real answers to mystical questions. That’s it. If you are prepared to accept that at at face value as a given you can save yourself immense amounts of time by just not reading about every religion and philosopher under the sun and instead focus your time on something productive. And if you ever start to feel like some mystical cult might have some deep answers, just remember none of them do and regain your focus on reality again.

based op