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Welcome to XMR General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading privacy-coin!
Because Monero is secure, low-fee, and borderless, people can easily send money despite corrupt and broken governments or banks. This provides economic empowerment of individuals in oppressive countries or depressed economies.
Private financial history protects consumers and companies from price manipulation, supply chain exploitation, economic discrimination, or the like. Monero is the only cryptocurrency that has the features to serve as completely fungible, decentralized, electronic cash.

If you're new, feel free to ask any questions you like and a Monero Chad will be with you shortly.

WHAT IS MONERO?
https://web.getmonero.org/resources/about/

HOW TO STORE MONERO:
https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/ < Full GUI wallet, for your PC
https://cakewallet.com/ < A simple, phone friendly wallet


WHERE TO GET MONERO?
https://bisq.network/ <Trade Bitcoin for Monero completely anonymously over Tor, decentralized. Slow but completely private!
https://cakewallet.com/ <Trade Bitcoin for Monero through a centralized exchange built into the wallet!
https://localmonero.co/?language=en <(Always look for vendors with lots of good reviews)
https://kycnot.me/ <Exchanges and services with no KYC requirements
https://web.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/ <A brief introduction to PoW Mining.

STATS:
https://moneroblocks.info/stats/transaction-stats < Monero Daily Transactions

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>everything down except Monero
Very comfy rn

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>>24727203
Updated daily transactions chart

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>>24727203
hello my frens
fuck glowniggers

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0.x.M.R

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>>24727507
nope. 0xmonero is still vaporware bullshit
just like the last hundred times you spammed it
shut up
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/

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>>24727203
FAQ (Updated 12/11/2020)
>What is the best way to get Monero?
- If you don't mind KYC, then Kraken and Binance are the two exchanges with the largest amount of liquidity.
- If you would prefer no KYC, Local Monero is a service to directly connect you with people selling Monero. Otherwise, you will need to buy Bitcoin and then move that Bitcoin through a medium without KYC, such as a coinswap service (morphtoken), a centralized exchange (kucoin, tradogre), or a p2p application (Bisq).
>What is the best wallet?
Chad option - The GUI and the CLI synced to blockchain.
Easy Option - My Monero, Cake Wallet, Exodus
>I just read _____ that says Monero can be traced. Is it over?
No. Monero can not be directly traced. To date, there has never been a directly traced Monero transaction. What could realistically happen is an adversary can pick up metadata that a Monero user may unknowingly leak when doing a transation. For example, If you purchase Monero on a KYC exchange and then transfer off of an exchange, the metadata that the KYC exchange would store is the date and time you sent Monero, the amount of Monero you sent, the Monero address you sent Monero to, and the IP address that you are logged in. Monero does not prevent metadata, so be aware of this.
Whats with Monero's recent price movements?
During the recent pump, Monero held and gained in its USD value but bled in its BTC ratio.
During this current dump, Monero has held its USD value and has gained in its BTC Ratio.
The speculation here is that Monero is decoupled from the market and is moving based on it's own demand, as noted in our increasing transactions >>24727325
>What's a make it stack?
An unknown amount.

>> No.24727673

Give me a serious price prediction. XMR just isn’t a great investment

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>>24727300
comfy knowing we're all gonna make it while the nocoiners (non-xmr holders) that pollute this board will stay poor.

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can i earn any monero from running a full node?

>> No.24727690

>>24727673
~$8k by 2023

>> No.24728034

>>24727690
Lmao seriously. 8k is deluded right?

>> No.24728141

>>24728034
Why would it be? We're soon to have the entire crypto market explode as regulations are being set and people will want privacy. Monero's use will be invaluable. Thats only 120b marketcap btw. If the entire market cap for crypto does a 4x alone in that time period with added reagulations which are coming in 3-5 weeks fyi, that is actually a rather reasonable price by 2023. Honestly I'm personally unloading about 10% at 3k and letting the rest run its course. Unless some of my other holds moon before that than I'm loading up as much as possible under $1k.

>> No.24728245

>>24727673
go fling your poo in any of the dozen /biz/ scam of the week threads faggot. If you don't understand the growing demand for privacy or the growth in adoption of Monero you are a retard.
>>24727677
No, but you can mine Monero if you so choose, and you can do this on any CPU. Monero's Random X mining algorithm is ASIC resistant and made to benefit people mining with CPUs.
>>24728034
I don't know if you remember the mania of the peak of 2017, but you had absolute shitcoins skyrocketing in value. Nano, Ark, Req, etc. Logic is thrown at the window during a bubble. Monero is one of the soundest investments in crypto right now because of the improvements in chain analysis and Monero's long term growth. Most of us believe that during the peak of the bull run Monero should hit between 0.03-0.01BTC. So 8k is a higher estimate, but I'd argue it is a valid one, especially if we see more on-ramps over the next few years, as well as atomic swap adoption.

>> No.24728324

What's the current blockchain size for XMR? I'm probably going to buy an external HDD for storing blockchain data for BTC, XMR and maybe ETH, so I'd love to know beforehand how much is it going to take.

>> No.24728402

>>24728324
Blockchain Size 63.75 GB

https://bitinfocharts.com/monero/

>> No.24728549

>>24727677
https://www.monerooutreach.org/stories/RPC-Pay.html

Theoretically you can. You can require people who use your remote node to pay via hashes.

But you're competing against all the other remote nodes and most remote nodes are free.

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>>24728245
>No, but you can mine Monero if you so choose
servers running hot enough as it is already
maybe i'll put a full node anyway just for the sake of it
>>24728549
ok i see, too bad i guess but also probably best that way

>> No.24728702

>>24728324
>>24728402
its about 100.6GB
the blockchain on getmonero is 63.75 but is larger once imported because of additional things needed when importing, but the raw blockchain is 100.6GB once imported according to my data file.
However, you can also prune the blockchain, which will decrease the overall size to 1/3 of the total.

>> No.24728792

Is it dangerous to mine Monero?
will there be attaks to my pc if I try to mine,
I'd like to try but I wonder if i'll expose my network to risk hacker etc?

>> No.24728850

>>24728792
your mommy might yell at you for taising the electric bill but if she uses a blowdrryer for her taint she won’t notice

>> No.24728858

also please wha tis recommended to use to mine Windows? Linux? no difference?

>> No.24728882

>>24728792
Yes it's incredibly risky. Last night a pajeet crawled through my ethernet port trying to steal my coins

>> No.24728926

>>24728792
I'll still wait for a real answer pretty please

>> No.24728958

>>24728882
https://sethsimmons.me/posts/moneros-ongoing-network-attack/

>> No.24729105

>>24728926
>>24728958
It's safe don't worry

>> No.24729136

>>24728850
>>24728882
to be fair even I get kind of paranoid just running a full node since it might land me on some kind of list. But as the saying goes, if you aren't on a list already you're doing something wrong.

>> No.24729149

>>24728792
>>24728858
honestly you sound pretty clueless so I would recommend not mining kek but i'll answer you anyways.
assuming you do your research and download a mining software, all you would be doing is lending cpu power to a mining pool.
the operating system has no effect over how good your hardware is.
>>24728958
this attack has nothing to do with mining. it effects people who run their own nodes. It also isn't dangerous but an inconvenience, as it is disrupting nodes from fully syncing to the blockchain.
>>24728882
>he didn't update his Anti Raj Malware
ngmi.

>> No.24729148

>>24728858
linux will have slightly better performance but you can mine on windows as well

>> No.24729312

>>24729149
Of course I'm clueless, that's why I'm asking.
Why sould I download "a" mining softwar,
isn't the mining software this one??
https://web.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/

>> No.24729371

>>24729149
>lending cpu power to a mining pool
does XMRig somehow work as nicehash then?

>> No.24729373

>>24727558
You’re doing god’s work good job
that fucking pajeet stinking up every monero thread

>> No.24729403

>>24729149
>you sound pretty clueless so I would recommend not mining
what kind of highly specialized knowledge is it needed to mine if not "start" a program kek?

>> No.24729434

>>24729371
I use nicehash, but you can just mine eth and xmr using any pool. It doesnt matter.
I simply cash out in xmr on nicehash

>> No.24729987

>>24729312
you use the mining software to connecting to mining pools, where you then combine your computational resources with other anons.
>>24729371
yeah but with specific software I imagine it is more customizable than what nicehash offers. But I believe you can use nicehash as well.
>>24729403
generally mining isn't really all that profitable unless you know how to optimize your machine's performance. And even then it takes years to see profit. But there are anons who post in these generals who mine and quite enjoy it.

>> No.24730416

>>24728958
all this does is slow down the network, I trust the developers to have a fix in place soon.

>> No.24730487

>>24727507
K.Y.S

>> No.24730960

that is one juicy candle on the 15m

>> No.24730975

>>24729434
Does nicehash let you cash out in XMR or do you exchange it? That would be incredibly based.

>> No.24731165

>>24730960
The test will be whether .0075 changes from resistance to support.

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>>24727203
>>24727300
>>24727463
>>24727675
Hello xmrbros happy fucking friday!!

>> No.24731264

>>24731219
I'm so fucking glad I went from 50-50 to 100% XMR a month ago

>> No.24731302

Why is /biz/ complaining about a crypto dump? These monero charts are looking great. Kek.

>> No.24731369

>XMR moons
>normies fomo
>price fluctuates
>XMR becomes unfeasible for dark web transactions
tell me one good reason why drug dealers and pedophiles would want a higher XMR price?

>> No.24731401

>>24731369
Services in USD and you pay the equivalent in XMR you fucking smoothbrian.

>> No.24731430

>>24731369
>XMR becomes unfeasible for dark web transactions
What? why would it become unfeasible?
obviously the criminals want to get richer too, a higher price and higher liquidity would be heaven for them

>> No.24731467

WHO WONT THIS PIECE OF SHIT GO DOWN; I WANT TO BUY MORE

>> No.24731629

>>24731219
feelin comfy lad
>>24731369
>this is the type of person who fuds monero

>> No.24731690

>>24731467
Based on Monero's price action over the last 6 months, I'd wager that Monero has decoupled from Bitcoin and is doing it's own thing. I'd also bet that the reason we are seeing a major uptick in transactions is from whales stashing profits from the recent shitcoin pump and dump.

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>xmr thread

>> No.24731942

>>24731690
its not fully decouplde, and probably never will be, but what is doing is enough confirmation that monero is literally the future worlds currency, buy now

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Well well well

>> No.24731990

>>24731959
What is monero doing?
He is beginning to believe

>> No.24732001

>>24731959
how the fuck does eos still have a market cap greater than XMR?

>> No.24732046

>>24732001
Coin supply of 1 billion

>> No.24732064

>>24732046
ah

>> No.24732166

https://www.coindesk.com/19-year-old-ukrainian-lawmaker-with-millions-in-monero
>Solod is the son of two national parliament members, Yuri Solod and Natalia Korolevska. He entered politics this autumn, fresh out of school. In his obligatory property declaration, he said he owned 185,000 monero, or $24.5 million worth of the cryptocurrency.

>This was, in fact, the only piece of property the young lawmaker owned himself. Everything else in his declaration, including real estate, cars and trademarks, belongs to his parents.

>> No.24732775

>>24731959
>>24731990
This is obviously bullish for tether, all in USDT

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>>24732775
>>24731959
whoops

>> No.24733965

>>24732166
literally money laundering political donations of $25 million, lmao. what chads.

>> No.24734562

>>24727507
damn this Pajeet must've gotten an annual contract for shilling

>> No.24734591

>>24727673
>Give me a serious price prediction. XMR just isn’t a great investment
yeah everyone who bought $40 moneros this year is just a BAD INVESTOR, haha, right anon? I mean, currencies AREN'T INVESTMENTS like that would mean there are dedicated markets specifically for trading currency-pairs against each other an-
>let the big boys talk, okay sweetie?

>> No.24735720

>>24732166
He broke the first rule of holding monero
He must be killed

>> No.24735737

>>24727507
N

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>>24727300
most cozy crypto

>> No.24735842

>>24735720
Yeah this. He should've paid a bribe to the Ukrainian version of IRS to not disclose that he's a Monero whale

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>>24727203
/comfy/

>> No.24736798

ultra-comfy

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>>24736798
>>24736210
Comfy.

>> No.24736909

>>24736860
oh fuck new OC. based.
could you put the monero logo in the top right? would be perfect for the next xmr gen OP.

>> No.24736914

Why aren't there nudie pics of Monero-chan? She's literally built for lewd.

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>>24736914
there is monero lewd fanfiction

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>>24736860
>ywn sit beside monero-tan

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>>24732166
The patricians choice.

>> No.24737797

Lads, is dogecoin a good buy? I've got a small amount of monero stuck at Hitbtc and the withdrawal fees are insane, gotta convert it to dogecoin to be able to withdraw

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The next resistance is around .0082, and we may be there sooner than we think.

>> No.24738324

>>24736860
Her tummy is so cute

>> No.24738408

>>24737797
Convert it back ti xmr asap

>> No.24738544

>XMR pumping back up to $140 in direct opposition to BTC shitting its pants still
The correlation is weakening

>> No.24738584

>>24738408
I'm shit out of luck I'm afraid, sold at 0.00751, not gonna buy back at this price

>> No.24738618

>>24738584
I just shorted. Hoping to buy back at 0.0076

>> No.24738773

Guys, I think I caused this pump, I was waiting for days for the best time to convert -> withdraw -> convert back to monero, right when I sold it started pumping, you're welcome.

>> No.24738845

>>24727203
XMR is for the trans community.

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>>24727463
Hello fren
Fuck glowniggers
Fuck jannies
Fuck chinks
Fuck jews
Fuck niggers

>> No.24738999

>>24738584
>>24738618
Fools. Holding is not rocket science

>> No.24739033

>>24738999
let them short the bottom. we need covered shorts to break thru resistances, after-all.

>> No.24739084

>>24738999
eh it's up to them. If they want to play a risky game then they have that option. I personally am holding until .02btc and at that point I will do a little swinging but it's all part of the game.

>> No.24739111

>>24736860
>Let's get rich together Anon-kun. Don't by shy, no one will find out~

>> No.24740148

>>24736860
saved. thanks anonymous monero-chan OC creator

>> No.24740189

>>24738999
well my orders got filled @ 0.0076 and 0.00758 but yeah im a degen

>> No.24740341

>>24728141
>>24728245
I can’t believe $8,000 per XMR is realistic. You realize how rich people would be

>> No.24740597

>>24736860
She must have such a beautiful personality. Sadly unknown.

>> No.24740648

>>24740341
Why do you think those in the know call it the greatest transfer of wealth in history? The opportunity that lies ahead is also going to create more wealth than ever in a very short period of time as well. Smart money is pouring money into crypto. Old money is staying in traditional investments. Once they realize just how valuable blockchain based fintech is they will begin to invest as well and this is the transfer pumping all of our bags anons. We'll all make it. Even poorfags.

>> No.24740779

>>24740648
>even poorfags
Thanks anon. I have an undisclosed, double digit amount of xmr. Stacking more, but you give a nigga hope.

>> No.24740864

>>24740341
I'm sure they said a very similar thing about bitcoin, but I won't pretend this is the same thing as crypto as a whole was relatively unknown before bitcoins first moons.

I personally will never sell a single XMR under $1000, and am and will continue buying XMR below $1000.

>> No.24741182

>>24740864
How should one be comfy about regulations. Price will nuke when they say owning xmr is criminal.

>> No.24741247

>>24741182
Are torrents illegal?
is bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency illegal?
Is encryption illegal?
Is tor or i2p illegal?
Monero won’t be illegal you dumb glowie.

>> No.24741321

>>24741182
That will never happen, and yea people used to say the same kind of shit about btc. Also even if that did happen it might even cause the price to moon since the risk of holding it would dry up sell side liquidity, but demand would stay the same or increase since it would prove that xmr works if govts fears it so much they have to ban it. And do you really think dnm users give a fuck about arbitrary laws?

>> No.24741347

How do I got from xmr to stable coin back to xmr without KYC?

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>>24731369
>>24741182

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>>24741347
Just use $XHV - Haven protocol. First and only private algorithmic stable coin, with all benefits from Monero, plus the ability to mint & burn private assets, including xUSD. It’s about to blow the fuck up. Anon should definitely check this out.

>> No.24741508

>>24741347
Simpleswap.io
There’s a premium, but what else can a nigga do?

>> No.24741542

>>24741479
I don't get why thorchain is highlighting xUSD so much, isn't XHV way too illiquid for it to work? Manipulating the price looks easy

>> No.24741583

Yeah all in this motherfucker. Private decentralised stablecoin. This is pure gold gents

>> No.24741606

Xhv that it. Gold. Pure fucking gold. Dirt cheap gold.

>> No.24741684

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>> No.24741792

>>24741684
>>24737871

>> No.24741822

>>24741792
the goyim know
shut it down

>> No.24741914

DONT MOON YET; DONT MOON YET DONT MOON YET

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>>24728141
>>24740864

Why would you stop buying XMR when it reaches $1K?

>> No.24742049

>>24741951
Guess it depends on the market whenever it reaches $1000. Overall I'm putting quite a lot weekly into monero so by the time it reaches $1k I should have quite the stack. Buying after that would be really marginal

>> No.24742063

that Ukranian guy's cock must be so hard right now

>> No.24742198

>>24741951
If it reaches any price past $1k that means the market as a whole is growing a lot. We all know the GBR will be started by institutions and they won't be investing unless there are clear regulations (which we have coming in 4-5 weeks btw). I personally believe that by the time institutions are pouring in and helping mature the market, the government will have outlawed privacy coins like monero. Which will inevitably severely limit transacting from other coins into XMR directly.

>> No.24742294

Lol with all the price suppression going on lately you can tell that they backed off.

>> No.24742334

>>24741951
Sminem looks like the annoying fan from Oblivion.

>> No.24742402

MY HAND IS TREMBLING; HOW DO I NOT FOMO BROS? I NEED IT TO DROP FIRST

>> No.24742521

>>24742402
how about you just drop half of what you would normally deposit and if the price drops you can put in the other half, and if it goes up then at least you didn't completely lose out?

>> No.24742692

>>24727203
Hello Monero-chads. I don't hold any XMR but I really appreciate your superior taste. Monero-chan is very cute desu

>> No.24742720

>>24742402
Have you noticed how everyone in this thread is debating about whether we continue buying after $1k or not?
And here you are worrying about buying at $141 vs $139.
>read the room anon

>> No.24742830

Who else just put their banker shitcoin XRP profits back into XMR

>> No.24742948

>>24727203
>Drug coin

>> No.24743201

the rocket is leaving bros and i didnt buy enough

>> No.24743249

>>24742948
This drug coin is going to make me filthy fucking rich (and financially secure)

>> No.24743273

>>24742948
is this what passes for fud nowadays? really? do better glowies, I need some cheap coins.

>> No.24743274

>>24742948
dont forget its alse pedophile coin

>> No.24743308

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.24743366

>>24728882
Is this true? Did he grab anything?

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>>24727507

>> No.24743613

>>24743395
kek

>> No.24743629

Friendly PSA to all Monero-chads: We're 50 million dollars away from overtaking that shitcoin EOS. Be sure to push that price up :)

>> No.24744209

>>24743629
Only 18M now :)

>> No.24744270

>>24727203
thanks for posting this

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>>24736909
not OC op, but I went ahead and added the logo

>> No.24744617

>>24727203
I'm glad I'm a member of XMR community here on 4chan. I'm the anon who made those price estimates based of transaction count. How are you guys doing?

>> No.24744683

>>24744617
Tyfys

>> No.24744711

>>24744683
calm and collected

>> No.24744741

here comes the price suppression, like clockwork

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>>24744617
this one?

>> No.24744807
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>> No.24744898
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24744898

What the hell? We gotta do something about this...

>> No.24744907

>>24744807
actually tho they did a stylometric analysis of the author of the whitepaper that lead to Monero, and Satoshi's style of writing was the closest match of any other known paper... so a lot of people think satoshi made Monero too

>> No.24744930

>>24744907
do we not know the creator(s)?

>> No.24744951 [DELETED] 
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>>24744898
here you go, anon

>>24744907
bullish

>> No.24744970

>>24744271
based! thanks anon.
>>24744617
i'm good anon. how are you.
>>24744741
i hope we retest 140 and then bounce right off of it. would be really bullish.
>>24744807
kek
>>24744930
the creator of cryptonote is anon. I don't think he is satoshi for what it's worth..
Also the creator of the original monero is also anon...howver the community hard forked off of his blockchain because he was apparently a cunt, and the hardfork is what we call Monero today.

>> No.24744979

>>24744617
I agree anon, for some reason the monero community, even on plebbit, is easily the most cozy. People are knowledgeable about privacy, confident but realistic about XMR, and generally just want whats best for crypto as a whole.
Godspeed

>> No.24745004
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24745004

MOMMY MILKER I WANT GF MOMMY MILKER

RIP NIGGER JANNIES PLEASE DONT PURGE HIM >>24744951

FUCK JANNIES I WANT MY MILKY

>> No.24745015

>>24744979
I'm afraid this might change if we go parabolic, moonboys will flood the community if we keep these gains up.

>> No.24745022

>>24744970
did van saberhagen actaully create/run bytecoin? or was it another dev?

>> No.24745045

>>24745022
i think he just wrote the criptonote paper

>> No.24745050

>>24745022
nope. van saberhagen is totally unknown.
a lot of the early crpytonote coins were scams. Monero somehow came out if it though. It's a weird origin story but it fits pretty well if you compare it to Bitcoin.

>> No.24745059

I can't do anything with my wallet, 'cause it's always syncing +2 blocks.

>> No.24745090

>>24745059
update to the latest version, sounds like you are connecting to one of the malicious nodes

>> No.24745092

>>24745059
weak fud, but if legit you're connected to nefarious nodes

>> No.24745099

>>24745059
you need to update your gui/cli to the latest version.

>> No.24745207
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>>24745090
>>24745092
>>24745099
The update didn't seem to fix the problem.

>> No.24745228

>>24745207
change to a remote node from the trusted list

>> No.24745248

>>24745207
are you using the blocklist for the malicious nodes? that fixed it for me

>> No.24745273

>>24745207
i see. You are going to have to manually download the list of ip addresses and block the adversary.
dunno how widespread this issue is...as far as I know this isn't effecting as many people as before, but it still is apparently an issue for people running nodes on GUIs.
go here: https://www.reddit.com/r/monerosupport/comments/kadk4p/malicious_peers_on_v0176_again/gfbe9hl/

>> No.24745317

>>24742948
this is familiar, this is exactly what they said about bitcoin before the bull run, this is so fucking bullish guys do you feel it

>> No.24745319

>>24744802
yes that one! and those others from coinmetrics also.. XD
>>24744683
You're welcome anon
>>24744970
I'm fine, sir

>> No.24745328

>>24745317
yep

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These spikes on Kraken are absolutely mental.

There's something in the air today, can you feel it? It's as if something's come alive

>> No.24745414

>>24745228
>>24745248
>>24745273
This >>24745273 appears to be working! Thanks very much!

>> No.24745426

>>24745015
You could very well be right, but as I believe the monero community is one of the least retarded, as the spotlight grows we will find our own little encoves for the original chads

>> No.24745452

>>24744898
>he doesnt jerk it to the GUI
i dont even own any xmr but that shit is sexy

>> No.24745557

>>24745414
np anon. you are based for running a node :)
>>24745015
>>24745426
Yeah I also fear that we are going to get dumber as time goes on. If you go look at a lot of the early Bitcointalk threads those guys were all chads, but over time it degraded into the moonboy shit we have today.
One thing is that Monero is open to hard forks and Bitcoin isn't, and this may be a key difference in the future as more privacy innovations come to light.

>> No.24745637

>>24745557
Unfortunately as the community gets dumber, the rational part of the community gets smaller and the hard forks will more and more be controlled by mob mentality, see what happened with bitcoin cash and bitcoin abc.

>> No.24745659

>>24745637
there is absolutely nothing wrong with hard forks, the strongest will win

>> No.24745722

>>24745659
Except that it's not an elimination game, it just fragments the market more with each hard fork, weakening all sides. I believe BCH was one of the many factors contributing to the fall of BTC and thus the whole crypto market in early 2018.

>> No.24745798

>>24745722
I like how the top in 2018 coincided with the bch coinbase listing, and CME futures listing. Funny how that works.

>> No.24745801

>>24745722
I do not know what you could possibly add to Monero that would cause a serious split in the community. Enough people prefer to keep it simple. More bloat = more security holes.

>> No.24745818

>>24745798
>the top in 2018 coincided with the bch coinbase listing
it didnt

>> No.24745826

>>24729148
Actually with software tweaks u get better hashrates on winnydos

>> No.24745829
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>>24727203
Time to overtake the centralized shittoken EOS and then craig's scamtoken in marketcap
took long enough

>> No.24745836

>>24745801
For now sure, but imagine a couple of years down the road, we're above $1k, the community exploded, we're mainstream in the crypto world, some retard comes up with a project like BSV, claiming feeless instant transactions or some stupid shit like that. Achieves large enough media control that the moonboys support the hard fork and there it is.

>> No.24745841

>>24745637
I don't really care about hard forks that sever from Monero. I think, similar to Bitcoin, these will just be ignored.
I am more concerned with the overall community losing it's strive to continue improving privacy. If you look at other threads for cryptos on biz all they care about is number go up. Obviously I like when Moneros price goes up, but I also like all the innovations they are doing, e.g. this year we had dandelion ++, clsag, atomic swap development, etc. Our community right now reflects this.

>> No.24745846

How safe is the gui wallet vs. Paper wallet airgapped?

>> No.24745885

>>24745846
gui wallet is as safe as your computer so its up to you to not be a retard

>> No.24745893

>>24745836
frankly I think that retards who actually support shitcoins like BSV can just be distracted from legit projects.
the problem though is Bitcoin is a legit project. It is just overwhelmed with maxis who take the satoshi doctrine to literally and can't take any criticism, therefore leading to an ancient p2p service with long term scaling issues and a fear of making any changes.
>>24745846
the latter is the safest.
the gui is obviously safe but you can leak information if you don't have good opsec.

>> No.24745904

>>24745818
it did though, the week of 12/18/17

>> No.24745922

>>24745846
The GUI wallet is as safe as it can be, but if you run on windows then all that "privacy" is up for Microsoft to decide. Setting up a cold wallet on an airgapped old laptop is pretty easy and eliminates any privacy concerns that would be out of your control.

>> No.24745925

>>24745836
BSV is DOA though. People got into it for the wrong reasons though. Pure profit.

>> No.24745945

>>24745925
lmao, half the top 20 coins do literally nothing

>> No.24745952

>>24745846
well you can make subaddresses with the GUI wallet, might be better opsec overall if you're keeping your computer secure.
I guess you technically could make subaddresses with a paper wallet, and that technically would be better.
best solution overall IMO is a hardware wallet.

>> No.24745995

>>24745893
For sure the maxis are weakening bitcoin quite a lot, every other crypto is at risk currently though, every market is tied to btc.

How about GUI with a hardware wallet, I'd say that's safer than a paper wallet because it can be locked with a password and still be stored offline.
>>24745945
This but I'm quite sure at least 80%-90% of BSV's supply wasn't even claimed, so the market cap is obviously completely inflated, would barely even be top 50 otherwise.

>> No.24746013

>>24745952
How simple is integrating the trezor to the gui?

>> No.24746043

>>24746013
haven't tried with a trezor, but with a ledger it was easy
just looking at the settings, I don't think the process will be any different between the two, so pretty easy I'd imagine

>> No.24746156

>>24745995
>every other crypto is at risk currently though, every market is tied to btc.
I would have agreed with this a few weeks ago, but now I'm not so sure. We will see what Monero does over the next few months, but we have decoupled from the market over the past 4 months now, and this latest pump during uncertainty in the market is insanely bullish.

>> No.24746308

>>24742948
Yes. And that's a good thing.

>> No.24746342

any chance monero goes to 120s again? i wanna hop on

>> No.24746422
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Guys? Kraken and binance are going in completely opposite directions with proper liquidity on both, what's going on??
Kraken 0.00815
Binance 0.007783

>> No.24746434

>>24742692
Why not pick up an unknown amount if you like it?

>> No.24746438

bump

>> No.24746441

>>24746422
binance trading desk doesnt have enough coins to dump on kraken I guess

>> No.24746451

>>24727558
a thanks to the anon that keeps putting the 0x shill in their place

>> No.24746452

>>24746422
1.buy on binance
2.sell on kraken
3.repeat

>> No.24746465

>>24746422
Should be arbed down soon right?

>> No.24746482

>>24746465
https://trade.kraken.com/charts/KRAKEN:XMR-BTC?period=15m

never seen it deviate this much for this long, something's up, it's really interesting to watch, both exchanges have liquidity, wondering which one will win, there's still huge market buys on kraken whenever a sell wall pops up, incredibly bullish.

>> No.24746501

>>24746342
not much really... in a few weeks you'll wish you had bought at 145

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>>24745273
Had the same issue and this fix worked, thanks for the info anon

>> No.24746547

>>24746482
for me this is pretty obvious that someone is buying a lot on kraken, some based anon, certainly

>> No.24746567

>>24746482
Fuckk, I've been DCAing in but this popping up makes me want to buy more. I'll grab some more next week. Just gonna continue to slowly DCA in.

>> No.24746616

>>24746547
Shorted 3x @ 0.0083, hope I don't get rekt on this

>> No.24746625

>>24746567
that's my strategy also... in a few moths all these coins I bought this year will be in a huge profit, so I can continue buying all next year... it will be impossible to lose money on this

>> No.24746662

>>24746616
You will probably get rekt... I've seen this movie before. You are shorting the bottom of the XMR/BTC charts for two years. Dude... monero should be worth aroung 0.05 btc by now

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>>24746616
You should be longing the btc pair instead
Pic is fractal

>> No.24746689

>>24746422
One of them is running fractional reserve

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>>24746662
It's deviating so much from the other exchanges that coinmarketcap excluded the price, how are the arbitrage bots not getting this?
It's currently 9% above the global average on kraken

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its still going up on kraken .....
what the fuckk is going on

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>>24746692
Another fractal.. good luck man, anyway

>> No.24746796

>>24746692
You are betting your margin is bigger than someone else's pocket (to buy spot). So you are betting against some huge player you dont know... and hoping arbitrage bots will help you. I wouldnt do it. I'm also buying.

>> No.24746807

I didn't belive yall so had to check for myself. Kraken is averaging between 5k-7k xmr in volume over the past few hours. Holy fuck someone is buying up a shitload

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>>24746807
>>24746692
Yes some huge player is buying. Look at the volume at the bottom some days ago. This is a turning point. We all know this play. Volume is increasing. It's a HUGE player.

>> No.24746849

any word on when atomic swaps will be functional?

>> No.24746862

>>24746796
>>24746842
Binance is a lot more liquid than kraken, also it's 14% cheaper there currently, how is that one whale not just depositing on other exchanges and buying monero 14% cheaper? Seems like mindlessly flushing down money

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$160 on kraken now..........

>> No.24746887

holy fuck. kraken is at $160 USD?
A major whale is buying right now.

>> No.24746925

>>24746862
Plenty of unskilled boomer whales.
Still I wonder why this is not arbitrage one way or another. I mean usually these bits are fighting over a few cents and now when they actually could cover some expenses they are nowhere to be seen lel.

>> No.24746953

>>24746862
Well, I dont know the answer for that. Buy you could also buy on Binance and sell on Kraken, but you didnt. In a certain way you are also flushing money. Buy I really hope you make money anon... I'm not playing leveraged positions, I just buy spot. But that's not a trade I would be comfortable... seems like swimming against the current. Would make more sense to long XMRBTC on Binance instead

>> No.24746976

>>24746862
Probably just trying to move the price, but kraken is the place to buy xmr for people who don't mind kyc. Maybe institutional investors?

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>>24746862
just some whales having fun on kraken

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>>24746692
if the bots won't do it, I will

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>>24746925
>>24746953
The bots are probably working on it, but look at this volume, the daily candle started 4 hours ago and it already reached the 4TH! largest daily volume this year

>> No.24747015

Looks like binance is ticking up now. This is way too exciting for someone who doesn't have a make it stack

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>>24747004
Another fractal... interesting to watch your play... keep us updated

>> No.24747027

wtf more like moonero

>> No.24747067

>>24746982
sold everything I had on kraken, bought the equivalent off changelly
easy 8%

>> No.24747125

>>24747067
nice anon!

>> No.24747142

>>24747125
>>24747067
yeah you helped the anon who shorted XD
and made profit... nicely done

>> No.24747213

>>24747125
>>24747142
danke my frens
gonna buy a comfy monero sweater with those gains

>> No.24747236

>>24746342
DCA

>> No.24747270

I'm so glad my monero is staked, if it wasn't I would have already sold at 0.0085 probably

>> No.24747271

>>24746976
is there any news at all of any institution buying xmr?
(or i wonder if they'd keep that secret)

>> No.24747346

I almost blew my brains out cause I didn't realize monero wallets take up to a say to synch.

>> No.24747354

>>24747271
Maybe the based Ukrainian’s friends are getting onboard

>> No.24747404

>>24747354
if digits and this thread turns into a ukranian larp

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>>24745207
remove p2pstate.bin from your
.bitmonero folder

>> No.24747451
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24747451

it's still going up
what in god's name? where are the arbitrage bots?
should I do it again?

>> No.24747463

>>24747451
anon you should keep taking advantage of this. I would if I could.

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>>24747451
If you can do it 30 times in a row you will literally 10x your money, assuming 8% each time. I doubt this huge spread will last long enough for you to make 30 trades though.

>> No.24747501

>>24747271
no but I remember that hedge fund larp anon talking about xmr in his threads.

>> No.24747534

>>24747498
>>24747463
yeah it's already closing, gotta withdrawal funds from yearn to do this unfortunately
gonna get one more in
I really should set up my own arbitrage bot

>> No.24747535

Well my short has been liquidated.
It's 6 am here, gonna cry myself to sleep now, fuck this irrational market

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>>24747535

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>>24747451
>I'll fucking do it again

>> No.24747687

>>24747535
nah anon you fine.

>> No.24747722

>>24747594
>>24747687
I actually just checked my account and it didn't liquidate even though I got the email notifying me of the liquidation.
Kraken is smoking something tonight, I don't know, in the green now though, never shorting again in my life.

>> No.24747798

>>24747722
yea kraken is scam wick central

>> No.24747881

So now everyone who sold large amounts for arbitrage will start slowly reaccumulating once kraken touches the rest of the market again, so over the next day we should see slow gains, right?

>> No.24748044

>>24747881
I've been suspicious of price suppression for a while and it looks like whatever was happening a few weeks ago has been removed. Who the fuck knows what's going to happen but I think we are going to continue slowly rising with spikes here and there.

>> No.24748219

WHY IS IT MOONING!?!?

>> No.24748404

>>24748219
Price suppression whale died in his sleep tonight, now another whale is pushing Monero up to it's legitimate price

>> No.24748450

So I attempted what the other poster did using changelly and got it through but still waiting on my xmr to hit kraken... oh lord

>> No.24748459

>XMRBTC price has literally stopped at 0.008 on Binance
oh lordy lordy

>> No.24748559

>>24748450
Nvm right as I posted kraken confirmed it. For anyone wondering it takes like 20+ minutes

>> No.24748576

>>24748459
>Binance panicking
>CZ wasn’t done accumulating
We might see some orchestrated MSM FUD to compensate.

>> No.24748627

>>24748576
Yeah that was... weird. I saw it hit 0.008, then it went to 0.00795, and stayed there for over a minute. I'm pretty sure there wasn't any trading because the price did not move at all.

>> No.24748659
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24748659

14th place on CMC
next target: Bitcoin Sanjay's Vision

>> No.24748810

Congrats, boys. XMR led this rebound.

>> No.24748911

>>24727203
comfiest hold

>> No.24749161

Best performing coin this week btw

>> No.24749493
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24749493

Don't do this to me now lads I just started :(
P.S. does mining put you on the glowie list?

>> No.24749505
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>>24749161
all eyes on monero, more will onboard

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24749525

>>24727203
>poor guy

>> No.24749680

So... xmrbtc is just going to pluto with no stops?

>> No.24749716

>>24749525
lol people like that are probably gonna neck in a couple years

>> No.24750297

Monero is just an overpriced fork of Bytecoin. Use 0.x.M.R. or PRV.

>> No.24750455
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>>24727203
>re-download the blockchain because of fuckery
>all week
>finally downloaded
>93 gigs
>can finally start mining again
>2 blocks remaining
>download them
>2 more block remaining
>start it up this morning (20 min ago)
>600 blocks remaining
speed is shit and I just want to mine. Also why the hell am I getting 3k hashrate with 6 threads but barely goes over 4k with 12?!

>> No.24750497
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>>24736914
here you go

>> No.24750536
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24750536

>wake up after a week long xmr-fueled drug binge during which i jerked off to eeveelutions while on viagra (don't ask) and passed out in a pool of blood and piss
>suddenly recouped all of the money i've spend over the last year on white house market buying peoples' amazon account information so i can extort them by threatening to harm their families over email
feels good being a monero chad. gonna snort some coke and go to the gym

>> No.24750742

>>24750455
Why would u need to download the blockchain to mine? Check cpu temps

>> No.24750803

>>24750742
this. cant you just set blockheight and sync then mine from it?

>> No.24750860

>>24749493
Being on 4chan puts on the glowie list. Using linux puts on the glowie list.

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>>24750297
currys get the rope

>> No.24750962

>>24749493
>would use monero profits to make her even fatter

>> No.24751047

>>24750803
I run my own node. Won't let me mine without fully syncing.

>> No.24751376

XMR general threads getting more replies every day
>i feel it anons

>> No.24751562
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24751562

Monero is what you get when the smarter minds/hackers/mathematicians put their energy into a common project.

>> No.24751594

shit software that will lose your coins.

don't risk it

>> No.24751619

>>24751594
thanks sir
I did the needful and sold all my monero

>> No.24751752

>>24751594
retard

>> No.24751754

>>24751562
make her more tan

>> No.24751761

>>24751562
>>24751754
make her like the color of my ID. need a cute choccy colored monero gf

>> No.24751892

>>24751619
>>24751752
fuck u both but mainly >>24751752

>> No.24751944

>>24751892
I'm honoured, Rakesh.

>> No.24752006

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>> No.24753304

bumping because it's a nice long bread

>> No.24753542

what's the bottom here?

>> No.24753583

>>24750455
this is because of some malicious nodes on the network, they don't affect anything else just your block count, see this post for fix:
>>24745273

>> No.24753728

>>24753542
retest of 140 I think

>> No.24753770

>>24753728
I think xmr/btc leads the price

>> No.24753804

All hail the one true crypto

>> No.24753907

just bought an unknown amount.

monero defying the trends is bullish imo.

>> No.24754588

Sup monero chadwicks

>> No.24754909

>>24747501
yeah it sounds more like the wealthy hedge fund owners/workers would buy xmr, while they wouldn't have their hedge funds buying it (and disclosing it)

>> No.24755155

XMR thread going to 300 posts

>> No.24755503

>>24754909
yea even if he's larping I don't think people realize that the superwealthy value financial privacy too, and since they're starting to come around to the idea of holding btc, they'll learn why xmr is superior soon. I read a report that said the top 1% holds $173.3 trillion (~43% of total wealth), if just 0.1% of that ends up in xmr...well, you do the math.

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>>24755155
contributing with this bump

>> No.24756375

Glad to see this general is still going. XMR hit $175 on kraken last night.

>> No.24756406

>>24756375
Sounds like somebody got FOMO lol

>> No.24756521

>27k transactions a few days ago
>16k yesterday
Wonder what that's about. Someone stress testing the network maybe? Idk

>> No.24756562

>>24756406
Or whales putting profits into XMR. Regulation coming out in a few weeks.

>> No.24756639

Monero is just an overpriced fork of Bytecoin, use 0xMonero.

>> No.24756652

>>24756639
You got btfo in the other thread, go back there
>>24750658

>> No.24756686

OK I will buy some of your mafia money. How do I purchase and store dis shit? Spoonfeed me

>> No.24756772

>>24756686
Kraken if you're US or binance. Bisq or localmonero on tails with a laptop bought for cash if you're concerned. You can xfer to a local wallet of your choosing.

>> No.24756821

>>24756772
Thanks fren, I am too retarded to do my own research but I want to make money like you autists

>> No.24757771

>>24729149
>the operating system has no effect over how good your hardware is.
It does affect an increase in hash rate though if you optimize properly.
https://xmrig.com/docs/miner/randomx-optimization-guide
1-3% performance bump on Linux with 1GB hugepages support.

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Monero coffee chat is live guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y18kyw1dR_U&feature=youtu.be

>> No.24758384

>>24758340
the old guy is articmine. He's a total chad and he's the one who was the biggest voices in developing tail emission and dynamic block size.

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>>24758340
>Mining rig on fire
>don't pull the power plug
>grab a screwdriver

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>>24758384
where's the bald chad that BTFO of the ceo ciphertrace?

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>>24758340
Someone help this man!

>> No.24758912

>>24758809
we're here if you want to talk anon... which shitcoins did you buyed?

>> No.24758924

>>24758912
It's not me, just some anon on the monero broadcast.
I don't have a google account myself

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Are 10 xmr enough to make it in argentina?

>> No.24759090

>>24759054
damn that picture is lowkey inspirational. to be surrounded by garbage and still nurture fresh food!