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So the Graph is a Google of blockchain - it indexes data needed for dapps in a convenient way. Let's make some projections and compare current Graph numbers with Google numbers.
In November daily volume was ~350 queries per day. Over 10 billion queries for the month. Approximately 120 billion for the year (note that numbers are growing exponentially).
Google had similar yearly volume of queries in 2005. The capitalisation of Google at that time was $52B.
Even a conservative estimation (10% of 2005 Google mcap) gives $5B. That's without current crypto hype and very possible upcoming bullrun. Number based on the real usage exclusively.
If we'll see a bullrun at $25B mcap it still wouldn't be overpriced. That's *just* 50% of 2005 Google mcap.

What do you think?

>> No.24723371
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Depends on query fees. But you can make the google comparison and it'll be valid tho.

Anyway Graph outside of the top 5 in 6 months is *very* bearish prediction. It'll likely take XRP place by the end of this cycle (This or Link, One of them).

>> No.24723425

>>24723345
Graph is a stablecoin = 1 usd. Dont expect to make money

>> No.24723444

>>24723425
Why is this fud even a thing? You barely even need to do above mild research to see this is 100% a lie. Come up with harder to refute fud please.

>> No.24724141

>>24723345
>>24723371
anywhere between $0.50 and $1 opening seems fair. Aren't you guys worried about cheap VC tokens getting unlocked after 6 months?

>> No.24724222

>>24724141
I will swingtrade before that, rebuy the dump and hold till $10 at least

>> No.24724229

>>24724222
at what price will you sell tho, to buy back in lower? Like what opening price do you predict?

>> No.24724261

>>24724229
selling at ~90c rebuying between 40-60c

>> No.24724399

>>24724229
Dont get suckered. The ICO people that got this at .03 cents are shilling it hard for a pump and dump. Just look it up. Not saying it's a bad project but just look how much spam is hitting the board. They are going to dump at opening and leave you holding the bag. They have millions of bags to drop and launch is over a billion. Buy it at a penny and you'll 100X in 3 years. Buy it at launch and get laughed at by ICO hodlers and have to wait a year before you break even.

>> No.24724486

>>24724399
You're brainlet. Max cap per person was $5k. Initial valuation is $30M. Nobody dumping it at opening except maybe the poorest indians.
>how much spam is hitting the board
You're fucking new. Link shilling in july-august 2017 was exactly same because people were actually excited about the project. NGMI

>> No.24724496

>>24724229
To give you an idea of what will happen at launch Graph is dropping 1.5 billion coins. Most people dont quite understand how big a number that is so for reference
Amillion secondsis 12 days. Abillion secondsis 31 years. That market is going to be retarded diluted for the first week or so, add in the 4500 ICO holders, at least half will dump for a quick buck, it's pretty clear it will crash. There is a reason "Don't buy launch" is a thing. You'll make a shit ton of money buying GRT if you dont get suckered I to fomo right out the gate. Patience is bitter but the fruit is sweet.

>> No.24724508

>>24724486
Nice lie, max cap was 5k for round one, by round three you could buy as much as you wanted until they hit their goal. Literally anyone can go check that info for themselves.

>> No.24724530

>>24724229
Think about it. What possible reason would ico holders have to shill the launch? Any smart person would be quiet so they can pick up more cheap on a project this good. They want to increase liquidity so they can dump.

>> No.24724550

>>24724508
>>24724530
LMAO try harder pajeet. You'll be buying my bags at $1. Good luck missing out on this
>>24724285
>>24724423

>> No.24724562

>>24724508
It got sold out in round 2 in 10 seconds. There was no chance for round 3 (A round that could only existed if there were leftovers from the first 2) to begin with.

Round 2 was FCFS (Which only 1.5K got in, Less than 10% of Phase 2 participants) and Round 1 24Hr to by for the lucky 10% of the registers.

>> No.24724566

>>24724550
>good salesman
fuck off to Mumbai, pravik

>> No.24724576

>>24724562
Don't bother replying to weak pajeet fud. Cope is real

>> No.24724588

>>24723345
>What do you think?
I think we already have a Graph thread

>>24724141
>Aren't you guys worried about cheap VC tokens getting unlocked after 6 months?
A bit, it depends on the market conditions. 6 months from now it'll be middle of 2021, it is likely to coincide with Bitcoin going above 20k and start of the alt season.
So if alts are flying to the moon, people are less likely to sell even VCs and just hold and see where the price takes them.

>>24724508
>by round three you could buy as much as you wanted until they hit their goal. Literally anyone can go check that info for themselves.
1) There was no round 3, everything was sold out in seconds at the start of round 2
2) Don't tell others "anyone can go check that info for themselves" when you're obviously spreading lies in previous sentence

>> No.24724602

>>24724576
Ha, the desperation when your weak pump and dump gets called out. Resort to calling fud cause you got nothing.

Anyway, get stuck waiting a year to turn a profit, or wait a week and buy under ICO and 100X in a year. Your choice.

>> No.24724609

>>24724530
We're talking here about multi billion dollar project at current state. /biz/ has no influence whatsoever on projects this size.

>>24724576
Somebody need to correct those street shitters, Uncorrected fud stick for long term despite it being a lie.

>> No.24724655

>>24724602
show hand

>> No.24724688
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>>24724609
Bottom right and bottom left. 2 in 1! Ico bag holder kek

>> No.24724919

>>24724688
So.. what price do you expect it to open at then? I'm curious to see how neutral you are or do you have a second agenda?

>> No.24725011

>>24724919
Probably open between .30-50. So quick 10-15X return for ICO holders of they can get enough plebbits to buy their bags to keep liquidity up enough to avoid to much slippage out the gate. Don't get me wrong, I am bullish as fuck on this. Graph is gonna moon for sure. But only an idiot wouldnt take a 10-15X payday knowing they can rebuy at their original entry point less than a week later and get a 100X moonshot EOY.

>> No.24725142

>>24725011
I think your prediction is fair. $0.30-$0.50 opening seems reasonable (consdering AVAX, an inferior project, also opened at 10x). It'll probably dump a bit leading up to the token unlock at 6 months. That is the right time to scoop up more Graph tokens for the long hold imo. What's a fair valuation for The Graph long term wise (1-2 years)?

>> No.24725166

When is the Ico, and will it be on uniswap, i am a burger

>> No.24725216

>>24725142
Oh fuck, 1 to 2 years is anyones guess. It might go as high as 1-2 dollars the first year, that's what I'm banking on anyway. After that it will depend heavily on how the word gets out, regardless I view it as a side 5 year hold unless people really wake up and it moonshots, then it could be like link and hit 50-70. The advantage it has on link is it's already fleshed out, link was just a white paper at launch so there shouldnt be that 3 year lag between launch and the money. Tbh if you are so domo you gotta buy at launch go ahead, you'll still make money, bit you'll be retiring alot quicker picking it up at .01-10p than you will at .50 because you will be able to play the bottom bounce and double your stack off the people that fomo the launch. At .50 you wont break even till late in the year due to the 6 mos drop.

>> No.24725248

>>24725166
Ico already happened. That's why you are seeing these posts now. Ico holders are trying to pump the mainnet launch so they can 10X their money on mainnet launch and rebuy the correction. The only reason to shill such a prime coin as this is to dump bags on people who fomo, rebuy the correction and double your hold for the long term. Dont get suckered.

>> No.24725270

>>24725248
Can always buy pre-GRT on big.one at about $0.10. Now whether they ever convert to real GRT or the exchange keeps the profits, is a risk you might not be willing to take.

>> No.24725321

>>24725270
Bahaha, that a lose lose Chinese scam. If launch comes in high they keep your money, comes in low they give you GRT. No way they can lose. Nah, I'll just buy after they dump their bags on the plebbits at launch and pick up under .10 anyway.

>> No.24726281

>>24725248
Wait wtf, why isn't it on uniswap then

>> No.24726664

>>24725248
Give me a reason why x200 ICO price give unfair valuation for GRT. You can't, You just apply trader thinking because this is the only way to fud a project like this, Fact is selling at even x20 is a dumb decision if we look purely on fundamental and what a project bring to the table.

>> No.24727045

This sounds massively scammy and the amount of faggot threads is starting to take the piss.

>> No.24727138

>>24725216
What about VC dumping on us after 6 months..? Wouldn't you want to wait after 6 months before scooping up some tokens?..

>> No.24727241

>>24727138
Those will be 6 months of low selling pressure (Very low amount of tokens are unlocked, Not even curators/indexers token are locked). Good luck keeping the fastest growing project that crypto ever seen from mooning extremely hard during that time. Especially if we see another DeFi run, Graph is the biggest and most important player there.

*If* it'll dump after the 6 months unlock it'll dump to much higher price then you'll probably be able to buy shortly after listing.

>> No.24727257

>>24727241
*higher price than

>> No.24727308

>>24727241
Tell me your predictions:
-At listing
-After 6 months
-1 year from now?

>> No.24727680

>>24727308
Can't give you $ value because that depends on the market.

Bare minimum for what i expect:
>Top 30-50 (With initial supply)
>Top 10
>Top 5

I really don't see Graph not owning a place in the top 5, It's nearly irreversible at this point.

>> No.24728254

I bought yesterday 100K GRT at $0.09 each, but they have not arrived yet. Anybody knows when they will be released?

>> No.24728281

>>24728254
I bought them in uniswap btw.

>> No.24728287

>>24728254
Where from? You've probably been scammed.

>> No.24728314

>>24728281
Correction: you've definitely been scammed

>> No.24728349

>>24728281
lol no you didn't

>> No.24728976

>>24728281
you just lost $9k because the real GRT isn't tradeable yet. Or you're just trolling

>> No.24729211

>>24727308
Listing: gonna open at $0.10, fomo panic is gonna cause a pump to $0.50, then dump back to $0.05 ( this is where im gonna buy) then it will stabilize back around ten cents and slowly go up from then on

6 months: $0.75- $1

1 year: top ten coin. $2-$10

>> No.24729316

Public cap was 1.5k not 5k. I was in it. On streetshitters would dump that.

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Copypasting from a thread I just made. How does it feel to fail at samefagging, fucking shills?

And before some of you retards even dare to emit the idea that I edited the picture for fudding purposes, you can see the replies as is in this thread : >>24722028

Yes, you're seeing this right. One of the marketers (ID:QPWuF7jq, post numbers >>24723854 and >>24724031 in the linked thread so that 4chanX/warosufags can see this later in the future) whoever hired for this project forgot to change his VPN and replied to himself while trying to look like he wasn't samefagging, probably several times in the thread and in previous ones as well to make The Graph related discussion seem organic. I don't doubt that this project is legit and has some solid fundamentals, but the overly agressive shilling campaign that has been plaguing /biz/ and possibly other normalfag social media outlets in the past few days should serve as a warning sign for anyone thinking about aping in the very moment it gets listed : it wouldn't be unusual for this to be yet another VC dumping shitfest, preying on niggers FOMO'ing due to hype alone. (see bZrx in July, Powertrade in September, etc.) No matter how promising an ICO is you should put into question people trying to sell you the idea that a project :
>cannot fail at listing
>will grant you massive financial rewards short term

I'm not saying it won't happen. Hype alone propelled K3PR and AUDIO to the moon in a very short period but BE WARY is all I'm saying. False and inorganic interest created by obivious outsiders pretending to have your best financial interests in mind doesn't bode well with me.

>> No.24729814

>>24729462
Dude you're comparing The Graph with Powertrade. No one can take you serious. GTFO

>> No.24729856

>>24729462
Very clever fud. Smart play is to buy small bag on listing and DCA in.

>> No.24730137

The fact that even FUD posters want to buy in eventually should say enough about this project.

>> No.24731425

$1 minimum

>> No.24731781

>>24723345
lol is graph gonna sell your data, use ads? google aint making shit from searches without ads

>> No.24731863

>>24723345

$3 by EOY

>> No.24731965

>>24731781
Google isn't charging you for searches, Graph is

>> No.24732256

>>24724141
ten billion tokens are released on day 1.
are you high?

$1 price would give it a ten billion dollar marketcap...
Putting it at the #4 spot... on day one.

Think before you speak next time, anon.

>> No.24732305

>>24723345
WHEN CAN I FUCKING BUY THIS?! STOP SHILLING THIS UNTIL I CAN ACTUALLY BUY IT YOU FUCKS

>> No.24732381

>>24732256
>ten billion tokens are released on day 1.
1.2 billion

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>>24724496
>>24724399
Not sure why you guys keep saying 1 billion circulating supply...10 billion tokens will be released at launch anons. See pic.

It's quick math for marketcap here.

1 cent is 100 million marketcap.
10 cent is 1 billion marketcap
1 dollar is 10 billion dollar marketcap.

>> No.24732438

>>24732381
see pic here >>24732395
and source: https://thegraph.com/blog/the-graph-grt-token-economics

and i quote

"total grt supply at mainnet launch will be 10 billion tokens"

Where are you getting 1.2 billion from?

>> No.24732882

>>24732438
Total supply is not circulating supply

>> No.24732926

>>24732395
Retard

>> No.24733027

>>24732438
BRAINLET CONFIRMED

>> No.24733148

>>24732882
>>24732926
>>24733027
Prove me wrong.

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>>24732882
>>24732926
>>24733027

10 billion initial token supply.

No other number is given on the entire blog.

If i'm wrong, then prove it.

>> No.24734061

>>24733306
Total supply does not equal circulating supply. Back to Twitter, friendo.

>> No.24734215

>>24733306
https://thegraph.com/blog/announcing-the-graphs-grt-sale

>Initial Circulating Token Supply: ~1,245,666,867 GRT
>Initial Total Token Supply: 10,000,000,000 GRT

>> No.24734994

>>24733306
Retard

>> No.24735266

>>24734061
total supply can change?

>> No.24735853

>>24735266
no

>> No.24735881

>AT launch
Grt goes up 10x then full retrace
Like every damn coin.

>> No.24735889

>>24733306
Total supply is not the same as circulating supply. Obviously you’re too dumb to understand that, thus too dumb to make money.