/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24449913
Fucking Americans, they get those big buck jobs after a meme three week course and the retards who actually studied this shit for years in college get shit

>>24449913
It’s just a neoliberal meme. The neoliberals have no real solution to the abysmal unemployment prospects for everyone once automation/AI replaces everyone.

>>24449913
>double for loops
is that just a FOR function inside another FOR function? what the hell is going on in that highlighted text. looks like word salad.

I'm autistic so I dont quite understand what zhe's complaining about. Zhe doesnt get nested for loops? It's likely zhe doesnt understand laplace transforms either. And what is that schizo shit at the bottom about a rocket?

>>24450033
It's the"im actually very smart, trust me"part

This is a joke, right?
A data scientist who can't comprehend nested loops.
Clown world.

>>24449951
>>24450033
>>24450046
>>24450053

>>24449913
girls in tech are so fucking cringe. Ugh. Also AI is more vaporware than fucking crypto.

>>24450033
kek, yes I'm pretty sure that's what she means

>>24449913
how is she possibly a data scientist if she cannot imagine nested loops, and why are you following her?

>>24450033
I think the retard is refering to nested fors

That's just a 2D matrix. Try 4D loops in C or some other annoying shit we had to do in school

is she really bragging about not using the same iterator?? i++; j++; i+=1; j+=1 are all THE SAME THING FUCK.

>>24450033
yeah didn't make much sense to me but i haven't written a line of code in like 4+ years

>>24449913
i was literally doing a nested loop for hw last night haha
how you let a 22 year old black college student who is no expert at this outdo you ms. data scientist

>>24450026
What are you talking about? Plenty of opportunities in being an Uber driver/postmates delivery/Amazon warehouse worker

>>24449913
>>24450033
>>24450097
boomers were a mistake

holy shit these are the people who have all the money in our society. People who just blindly trust that everything will work out fine if they just demonstrate that they tried hard.

Can't wait for it all to collapse, but the real blackpill is most boomers will pass away before they see the consequences of their proud incompetence and delusion.

>>24450097
>> "data scientist" lmao

>>24450150
she's just referencing using a different iterator in the nested loop. as in `for i in [1..x]{for j in [1..y]{ do something }}`

>>24449913
How can an entire sector be sustained by people throwing neural nets at problems like a child with legos? I guess this is the latest craze like how making an app was back in the day.
The strong emotional response that the image creates in me makes me wary of whether it is actually representative however.

>>24450345
oh ok that makes sense lol... but still they're just iterators, why do girls put embarrassing shit like this up for the public to see?

>>24450097
you need a new mentor nigger

>>24450097
She is a confirmed retard. Too bad she fired her based mentor for the crime of telling her the truth.

I’m sure if she tried to do recursion her mind would literally explode.

>>24450429

>>24450097
this is what mediocrity looks like. She shoot herself in the feet.

>>24450557
kek reminds me of middle school qbasic

>>24449913
>>24450097
Tell me this is a spoof account.

>>24450294
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>>24450528
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>>24450557
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>>24450656
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-nyulund/

>>24450714
>just because a person does slelect instead of select
This bitch doesnt know a LICK of sql. The only error she can think of is a fucking misspelling!

>>24450714
https://github.com/Anyulund
>Data scientist
>two-sum.py
>vowels.py
>3 months ago

>>24450557
I'm a total noob but is this okay? Is there a better way to do it?

>>24450971
Also obviously this only works if b is an integer

>>24450971
And I spelled multiplier wrong like a retard whoops

>>24450714
>My thought process behind this is that God gave me this sacred life not to waste it on stupid useless tasks just because tech companies decided to be efficient at the expense of 6 months of human life.

Yet she's going into programming

>>24450097
Imagine getting rejected by a grifter

>>24450528

Oow yeah :)

>>24450714
imagine a boomer trying to code while only using their 2 index fingers to type

>>24450971
yeah that's probably what the question was asking for

>>24450971
this is actually the worst way to do this

>>24451156
how would you do it

Why would you use laplace transforms for computer vision?
I get fourier, but laplace?

>>24451156
practically speaking you'd just do a*b, no use being pedantic about a silly programming challenge that makes sure you know how multiplication works.

>>24451114
And wearing reading glasses, looking at the keyboard.

data scientists are often not very good at writing code, they’re usually better at queries.
trying to learn ML when you can’t even understand duff’s device is crazy tho

>>24451235
Kek I start feeling sorry for them at that point

>>24451183
shift and add if you want to be old school and larp that you're using a pdp-11

>>24450033
her entire work week was writing that post

>>24450195
based nigger

>>24450097
well of course, you get stuck at double for loops, which is first semester tier programming, you can't do machine learning without any base at all

>>24450105
>Also AI is more vaporware than fucking crypto
finally, someone fucking says it

I'm the worst programmer on my team and I live in fear of being the weakest link. And I'm 100 times smarter than this lady. I see so many programmers with absolutely no understanding of 101 level material, and I have no idea where they come from. It's seriously weird.

>>24450033
How the fuck is this bitch trying to optimize a neural net without knowing how to nest for loops. God damn. 10 linkies says she has no idea how to actually code, has only ever used a visual environment, and is now shitting her pants because her supervisor wants her to write a nested for loop without using stack exchange.

>>24449951
>blames others for their own shortcomings
things losers say

>>24451183
make a function for integrals then make another function that inputs one constant of the two then evaluate the integral for the other constant
quickest way

>>24449913
"Data Scientists" are a fucking joke.
>>24450033
sounds like it
for(int 1 = 0, i < 10, i++){
for(int j = 0, j < 10, j++){
}
}
>this is soooo hard! I just want to optimize neural nets using laplace transform, but I'm stuck on the hard stuff today

i meet people like this every month
the whole world is fake and i dont want to be part of it anymore

return to monke

>>24451183
Not him, but you could take the following strategy:

You know that multiplying any two number can be seeing as the sum of the number by itself a number of times. Particularly, you can also see it as the sum of two multiplications.
E.g: 2 * 5 = (2 * 3) + (2*2)
What you can do then is recursively divide the multiplication into sums of multiplication (if the number is uneven, then just divide into even and uneven multiplications) with a base case where multiplying any number times 1 is the number itself. This approach would take the same as just summing if you don't take advantage of the fact that you can memoize some of the results. For every result you finish calculating (e.g: 2*2) you can save in a table that result and everytime you want to initiate a new multiplication you first check the table to see if that result was already calculated.

With all together, 2*5 could be:
2*5 = 2*3 + 2*2 (nothing on the table, we must calculate recursively, lets begin with 2*3)
2*3 = 2*2 + 2*1 (Again nothing on the table, lets go deeper)
2*2 = 2*1 + 2*1 (Nothing again, deeper)
2*1 = 2 (Base case, we can save 2*1 = 2 in the table, we go back up)
2*2 = 2 + 2 (We don't need to calculate 2*1 again since its in the table, we save 2*2 = 4, go back up)
2*3 = 4 + 2 (Both results in the table, we save 2*3 = 6 )
2*5 = 6 + 4 (We already had 2*2 from the table, we reached the top, we can return this)
This effectively divides the number of operations to log2(N) where N is the lowest factor of the multiplication

>>24450195
data scientist is a meme title

>>24450971
This looks ALMOST as good as my Flashlight script for my SCP game

>>24450294

The hatred towards them as a demographic is completely justified in my mind considering that they grew up in the worlds most exceptional economy the human race has ever seen. An explosion in technology and advances in the sciences with an emphasis on education put these people in a situation in which they received everything they ever wanted and more on a silver platter. They had virtually tuition free public colleges, medical care didn't cost an arm and a leg to pay for. Aside from the clusterfuck that was the vietnam war and the cold war anxiety, they had a pretty good run without having to worry about the consequences of their actions.

They're whiny spoiled brats who got self righteous in their old age. George Carlin was right. "Fuck these boomers, fuck these liberals, and while I'm at it, fuck everyone really."

>>24450971
Not bad, it can work. my first thought was division and multiplication are the same operation but inverse. So that A*B is the same as A÷(1÷B)

>>24451402
>>24451465
How do I learn this tho

>>24449913
She can't figure out how to write nested loops? This is why I don't trust people who claim to be working on computer vision or neural nets without having a ground level programming job first. Bunch of blow hards repeating random sentences from the most recent research article with no fucking idea what they mean.

>>24450714
this wouldn't bother me if the job market actually filtered out this kind of shit, but you know she's going to skate right into a job that requires programming chops just because she's a woman. I've worked with women "engineers" like her before, and they don't even get fired like the rest of us do after dragging their ass for months on simple tasks.....just reassigned to somewhere else in the company.

>>24451188
I looked it up, apparently there are some SUPER niche applications

>>24451213
Sounds like something the common core would make you do.

>>24451188

You don't, that sentence is just pure gibberish for that smoke and mirrors effect.

>>24451592
google

>>24451579
forgot to say, if you go the division route, you will need to add a test for 0. Since you can multiply by 0 but cant divide by 0.

The future is Asia because the West keeps filling up their companies with more and more of these types.

This is believable. Data scientists are mostly theoretical and the code they do write is usually straight forward no need for things such as for loops.

It attracts a lot of women for that reason.

They've moving away from this and trying to get regular devs into ML because of useless expensive fuck wits like these. The data science market exploded with these wahmen getting all these degrees and starting at 80k and then collapsed when companies realised they were shit.

None of the efficency or problem solving regular devs have.

>>24451592
it's never been easier to learn anything anon....the world is at your fingertips. still, I'd recommend enrolling in an actual course. It's helpful to have the structured environment to keep you motivated (to keep up) when learning new things.

>>24451669
going to land a 200k job at faceberg next March

>>24450105
Most of AI companies are vaporware, but some are gonna change the world (DeepMind is doing insane stuff)

>>24451625
most of them are bookworms who don't know how to practically apply any of their knowledge.

>>24451684

That's possible for sure, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case here.

This bitch's profile was shared from a /g/ thread a few days ago. She's yet another diversity hire trying to stir up some drama in order to get those sweet internet points and money being showered to her. The less attention we give to them the better.

>>24451759
I hope the big data meme dies soon so we can go back to being a niche area, too many devs at my job are more akin to professional bloggers than analysts/scientists

>>24449913
Sometimes I am wondering if my gf is similar to this. When I talk to her she seems intelligent but we used to be coworkers and I literally never saw her do anything impressive. Often she even asked for help on things I think are rather trivial and when I solved them she acts like it was a rather easy solution she easily understands... but if she did she wouldnt have asked me in the first place.

I mean I love her regardless and I know she is somewhat intelligent when I talk to her about various things. But she has such a high opinion about how intelligent she is and that if she just wanted she could easily do all these great things but she has no interest in them which I find weird. In my opinion you dont get to call yourself talented, hard working and intelligent if you never actually prove it.

>>24451767
kek. she's not passing any leetcode puzzles. someone else will hire her though. she probably makes more money than me too. I fucking hate this industry.

>>24451565
generation a or b will talk about us like this. They will say corona was our cold war and that we shouldnt have let multinational corps and big tech take over the world.

>>24451495
based.
this is used in bitcoin and ethereum to calculate public keys from private keys.

>>24451767
This has to be a meme right? I'm about to start preparing myself for FAANG and I will literally be doing leetcode for 6 MONTHS before I am even confident enough to interview.

>>24451495
thanks, very based answer

>>24451810
Blogs and articles are an important part of being a software company unfortunately. Especially if its a smaller less well known one.
They help promote a brand and yourself as a knowledgeable authority. But yes its a womens job

>>24450971
template<typename T, typename U, typename V>
V multiply(T a, U b){
return (a*b)
}

>>24451592
Online programs like Coursera are good.

>>24451669

I hear you man, I've seen the exact same shit here in a company in Southern Europe with a truly useless women who I know is getting payed more than me. And if you dare to bring their general uselessness up in a conversation, you'll be accused of not being a "team player" and you literally have managers and higher level people DEFENDING these people. I shit you not, they would rather keep these token diversity hires rather than other more productive people.

>>24451592
https://www.w3schools.com/cpp/
>>24450026


After the intro exercises just work on array manipulation at first. Its in depth enough that you learn some useful stuff but the scope is narrow so you dont get lost. Honestly it all comes down to repeation until you can remember the syntaxes and flow.

>>24451901
I honestly wouldn't mind if they were community managers or something like that, but they hold big roles within the teams, one of them is a TL.

>>24449951
lel you mad?

>>24449913
>>24450097
>>24450714
>>24451767
I'd like to tell you that this person is trolling but after working with female CS majors in University, I can tell you this looks 100% genuine, and no matter how much you tell a female like this the truth, it falls on deaf ears.

She will probably get a customer support role at Google/Facebook making $150K a year.

>>24451804
>That's possible for sure, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case here.
Yeah, not implying she's not bullshitting, just that she probably read the title of some article in a journal and added it to the post.
christ, imagine working at a FAnG company and having to deal with this people

i wish i could go back in time and learn another skill.

I already spent my whole life in front of a screen. now i do it for work

>>24451869
The fucking boomers are still in control now. Silent generation was killed off in ww2 so theres no excuse for boomers. They've been in control for far too long. Day of the pillow approaches

>>24451465
outer:
inc r17
cpi r17,10
brsh exit

inner:
inc r16
cpi r16,10
brsh outer
rjmp inner

ret

Assembly master race

>>24449951
The funny thing is that I code better than you do just because I didn't give a shit about college and actually learned concepts firsthand.

>>24449913
listen motherfucker, i make 300k a year as a software engineer and even i don't fully understand the highlighted section of that image

but i don't fucking have to, because i'm not a computer vision engineer

>>24450714
>let me just upload a description of my day with the most pedantic words possible in a desperate bid to sound smart
boomers were a mistake
thank god ive got crypto to carry me away from this world
social media was a mistake
women were a mistake

>>24451385
AI is too generic a term. Actual GAI research is legit and could be huge, throwing machine learning at recognizing butterflies is just nonsense

>>24451891
Honestly, most jobs at Facebook/Google don't even require you to know how to code. It's all about confidence and appearance.

If you are an autistic virgin though, like most people who try to apply to Big Tech, you will be put in a bucket such that they will only consider you as a programmer and poach you for human capital so the other companies can't get a hold of you. That is if you are competent enough.

>>24451669
>>24451767
I realized this when I talked to my gf about it since she also has a MINT degree. Personally I do think she is smart but she has literally never done anything special or noteworthy at work and when things get hard she doesnt put in the effort but lets other people do it. She has a comfy job and is very much average and unambitious at work - but she isnt really bad or lazy either.
As a guy that would just land you in a dead end job where you dont go anywhere and have to do shitty projects. However she isnt worried about it at all since of her own words, she is a woman and every team is looking for women in the MINT field. So she doesnt see the need to work hard as her chances of getting a job she wants after getting some experience at an entry level position are great.
Personally I have a very good degree and worked my fucking ass off for 3 years, I got a job with pay good enough that I see no way she would get the same probably not close to it. BUT she has put in minimal effort and will get more out of it than most average - good males in her field.

In the end it is good for me, I am still gonna be the one earning more than her and she loves me being dedicated, smart and hard working (her words) whereas she comes home from work not stressing about it and more than pulling her weight financially. Still it is fucking unfair looking at the other guys who put in more effort than her and go nowhere.

>>24451823
Same shit bro. My girlfriend is doing a STEM degree and always jokes on my major yet I’m doing all her fucking math and chemistry shit

I have a BS in CS and I can't get interviews in Covid. How did she become a principle data Scientist without being able to do nested for loop?

>>24452066
I respect it.

>>24451847
>>24451891
>>24451989
>>24452109
>>24452127

>>24452066
No one cares about assembly, we automated this nonsense in higher languages for a reason. You're the guy who hasn't started using ctrl-s to save yet.

so this is the power of UT Austin...

>>24450971
Just use recursion and add value each time and call it again but with f(a-1, b)

>>24451778
Yeah but i'm more talking about stuff like self driving cars, and that google duo ad or whatever. That kind of stuff won't exist for a long time because of the sheer amount of data required.

>>24451921
Can’t use * that’s the whole fucking point

>>24451972
I’m doing c++ courses now. What would be a good roadmap of progress to have, as in what would you supplement those online courses with

>>24449913
Just get a meme career with PhD in stack exchange bro.

>>24452127

At least she's honest about it. But yeah, this is is industry wide simping over all, this shit is fucking unbelievable. Tech must die!

>>24452238
How is it that someone with basically a decade of education can know so little about a subject?

>>24452163
You have to reach out and meet recruiters in-person and on Zoom calls. You need to have a defined career trajectory and explain how their firm fits in.

That will get you interviews assuming you follow up diligently and don't fuck anything up.

Then you will have to pass behavioral and technical interviews.

Don't even bother applying online unless the position has <10 applications or the recruiter told you to apply online with them as a reference (which will put you at the top of the pile).

>>24450945
i browsed through it for a minute and it looks like most of it is tutorial code she never bothered to edit

>>24451475
greentext

>>24449913
am i not understanding the highlighted text because i have a very basic understanding of coding or because shes a midwit?

>>24452318
Use this as a rough guide.

https://github.com/ossu/computer-science

I want to get into machine learning and this is making me pretty confident

>>24452437
Well, there's always time to make the "transition".

ok so shes a confirmed retard
the depressing part is all the autists in here who can fix her problem in 5 mins work are probably doing 90% of the workload for these boomers making 25% of the pay
yeah....

>>24452467
Also if you are an Indian male, you want to change your legal name and identify as African-American.

If they bring anything up say your family was half-black even though your birth name is Indian.

>>24452435
Thanks man

>>24452141
Atleast in my case she doesnt joke about it and has openly told me she thinks I am the smart one in our relationship. I just dont like the fact that as a woman if you are smart and good looking like her you dont have to try AT ALL and have a good career. I mean if she was an ugly guy putting in the same amount of minimal effort even if you are smart you wont go far. As a woman just being competent enough and pretty gives you such a headstart it is ridiculous.

However if you want to REALLY make it and climb the ranks or earn a bunch of money I believe as a guy it might be easier. I found that although HR loves to hire women as "part of the team" when it comes to leading projects or technical lead positions they prefer men as they seem more competent and if a guy has worked his way up to that level in other companies you can be sure he is smart. For women you never really know.

>>24452437

Yeah, why dont you start dilating right now, faggot.

>>24452013
>Silent generation was killed off in ww2 so theres no excuse for boomers
you mean the Greatest generation. Silent gen is 1928 to 1945 birth years. unless youre talking about germanys silent gen. soviet mongols and american niggers raped and killed indiscriminately.

>>24450714

Just had a quick look at her profile... a shitload of title inflation going on there and there's not even a single instance of her actually contributing to the outcome of something... She's totally making use of the overall simping in the tech industry.

>>24452076
That doesn't really explain why you're better at "code" than him. What do you think they teach at college?

>>24452600
>simping
this is called affirmative action and its been going on for decades.

>>24451763
I think my community college wants maths credits before i can enroll in those courses. But that was the plan, wageslaving outdoors for now.
>>24451927
>Coursera
Ty
>>24451972
Ty

>>24452383
I mean since she is open about it I dont mind it, also I wouldnt say she is bad at what she does just very much average and not ambitious you know ? In the end for me personally it is a very good thing she has a low stress environment and earns good money so who am I to complain.

Still I somewhat agree with the sentiment, personally for me it took a very good Masters degree alongside 3 years of working my ass off and showing up with an impressive resume of projects I have worked on or been technical lead for to get a great job. I strongly believe for a girl having a similar degree to mine already lands you a job at the big companies right off the bat without having to "prove it" somewhere else first. But then again there arent many female CS majors with a comparable degree to mine.

In the end I think as a guy you just really have to grind it out. I am not gonna lie the last 5 years I did few things other than working on improving myself in as many ways as I could often times even saying no to fun things because I needed to be responsible. Now I am happy with where I am at and in the end atleast noone can say I didnt earn it.

>>24452207
Is that why I get paid $250k annually to program microcontrollers and other IoT devices? I didn’t realize your 2 in 1 car jack/pump compiled JavaScript.

>>24452685
Having someone read you documentation in a classroom isn't the same as actually working. I've actually worked.

>>24452768
>atleast noone can say I didnt earn it.
Oh anon... I don't know how to break it to you, but I guarantee someone will accuse you of not earning it very soon in your life. Good luck.

>>24450971
>Is there a better way to do it?
yes, you can use ctrl+ PrtSc and then copy into paint next time

>>24452522
My gf says I’m the smart one but she does joke about the major and stuff

>>24449913
I have less than 6 month’s coding experience but isn’t this just the equivalent of looping through values in a 2D array?
I feel like this is retardedly easy

>>24452868
kek

>>24452796
You seem to think the 2 are mutually exclusive and that you don't get assignments in college.
I don't know how many retards get degrees in America without knowing shit, but in the rest of the world, you don't get out of a degree without being a a decent programmer at least. For example, someone who doesn't know theory could never possibly do my job.

>>24451921
The whole point was not to do a*b

>>24452868
I did it on a work computer. I wrote it on notepad on a work computer and just pasted it into the console in chrome. I'm at work. I am not going on 4chan on a work computer or writing that shit out on my phone.

>>24451767
Ifonlyyouknewhowbadthingsreallyare.jpg

>>24450945
this can't be real bros..

>>24452873
Yes, 2D and 3D arrays. I can't even fathom not being able to comprehend those loops. Its like watching a grown man struggling to learn addition.

>>24451989
If you tell a woman that they didn't do a good job you get me too'd or they find a way to ruin your career. Women in technology, they are sociopaths. They are taught that women can do anything...and they do that by trashing other people and spreading gossip rather than even doing the bare minimum to make something work.

>>24452384
Time spend in special (STEM) education is inversely proportional to subject competency.

>>24452076
Yeah of course, it has nothing to do with you raping a country every 10 years for whatever resources you need and having a cut throad swim or drown system.
Sure the reason you get paid 120k$ for webdev while an electrical engineer who does embedded system coding gets 50k euros at airbus in fucking Paris.

>>24452868
Or do this instead.

>>24450046
You will never be a real woman.

>>24452790
>Bragging about getting paid less than $300k to have to write in a language everyone else turned down.

You can get paid a shitton for total meme languages, posting about how you're well paid to do something isn't really a vouch for the efficacy of doing that thing.

>>24451579
>>24451739
This seems like the easiest and most straight forward solution. I am too much of a brainlet to understand the other replies I got about it

>>24453115
to be honest it's hard to blame them. the men, on the other hands. the fucking simps who do all the work and complain passively aggressively on the internet (hello /g/), but will never quit feeding the corporate beast. no diversity metoo company would survive if it weren't for the Price's law male nerds

>>24452238
Lol this woman actually took a 12k dollar 12 week coding boot camps at UW.
No wonder she's struggling with for loops all they taught her was data queries and formatting with html.

>>24453115
I've worked with a few women from eastern europe who were undeniably based and solid engineers. honestly haven't worked with a skilled woman programmer from the US though. I'm sure there are plenty, but it hasn't been my experience.

>>24453067
I literally have no idea how you can struggle with that
Granted I have no concept for the application right now, but it’s literally for: for:. How do you have an issue understanding that?

>>24452768
>>24452768
>also I wouldnt say she is bad at what she does just very much average and not ambitious you know
god help us all if data scientists not understanding nested "for" loops is average

>>24452393
Wtf is a behavioral interview

>>24453360
>tell us about a time when you disagreed with a decision that was made on your team....

>>24453316

Hyperfeminism in the US ironically creates giant womanbabbies who do not understand what real work or achievement is. They expect to touch something and be given a participation trophy, or get constant help.

>>24453293
I don’t understand why anyone would pay for a bootcamp
Fuck, you can literally just audit courses on Coursera and put them on your resume. Fuck paying $400 for the certificate unless it’s a good course

>>24451592
you go back in time and undo all the drugs you did as a kindergartener

>>24453316
North American US Women programmers, the younger ones, are exposed to the feminist ideology before the computers or math.

>>24450557
rate my attempt biz ( I don't like recursion)

>>24450195
Even shitty programmers are guaranteed jobs, congrats bro

>>24450945
>Data Scientist
>Was able to make numbers go different colour in excel automatically
>Boss was amazed, not only can she maintain a suction pressure of 4 bar for an hour but she can also do that computer stuff, best hire ever!

>>24452066
BASED ASSEMBLY TRANNY

>>24453159

Based Win+Shift+S user.

>>24450971
this won't work if b is negative number

>>24452790
>Is that why I get paid $250k annually to program microcontrollers and other IoT devices?
embedded developers get paid less than chemical engineers lol, stop larping with your $250k salary

This cant be real come on dude.

>>24451767
This is fucking terrifying, but 100% true, Lovecraftian horror. Know a girl that "self-taught" for 2 months, couldn't even write a loop, landed a job at Airbnb with her bachelors in Archival science.

We live in a clown world without a doubt

gay

>>24453205
Easiest solution is to do an addition loop, it's what the test creators are obviously looking for. division is probably less efficient but a more interesting solution. Assuming these are floats you really do just do

functionName(float a, float b){
return (b!=0)?a/(1/b):0
}

The hardest part to understanding that will by the syntax so written very verbosely:

float multiplication(float a, float b){

if(b===0)
return 0 //either a or b being zero will return zero anyways and this protects from from a divide by zero issue in the next statement

float c = 1/b

return a/c
}

>>24451495
I'm wondering how you would go about dividing the second int if you didn't have a * operator in the first place. Then you're trading time complexity for memory complexity with a lookup table? Why?

This seems inelegant. Factoring into primes and recursively applying your function is a cool idea but the specific implementation details here are making my autism twitch.

>>24452141
dont do that for her man, people like you are the reason bridges fall and shit

>>24453338
I was not talking about OP but about my gf who also works in a technical job

>>24452790
can i ask how you got into your role? I'm a new dev doing java and c++, but always wanted to go into more low level stuff

>>24453360
Find out if you're a psycho who will do as much damage to the company as possible before being escourted out because a coworker commented on your socks.

>>24453640
Yeah, in retrospect it's a shitty solution. I tried out what >>24451579 suggested and it seems to work pretty well.

>>24451778
your retarted. they are all fake some just have better marketing and PR

>>24449913
If I see a fucking double for loop in a PR, damn right I'm going to ask for that shit to be refactored.

You can unlearn that crap immediately!

>>24451946
These big tech companies make sp much fucking money that in their minds, hiring useless, unqualified people is just a charity write off to make the company look good. That's all it is. A gesture of good will

>>24453417
In theory boot camps are a great idea, go to a place where you can't be distracted and everyone starts at ground zero and will be brought up to some respectable level. Saves the surfing around for classes that you already know 80% of the information in and zone out before the important part.

If you have the money and they're well designed I'd say they're worth it, especially if you're good at programming but want to learn a totally new skill. But most are terribly designed and the girls who code type ones are basically worthless.

>>24451767
I hate being a doomer faggot but incompetent people getting into important positions is one of the major signals for a collapse

>>24453858
No they're a complete fucking scam. I went to a really good one, and despite that, i applied to over 2000 coding positions over the course of 16 months and couldn't get shit. Unless you're a pajeet or you have connections someplace, there are literally no jobs. Tech has become oversaturated and elitist just like every other industry.

>>24453843

The thing is that this doesn't happen only on those money printer companies. Without disclosing where I work, I'm working in a place where there's quite clearly measures on paying people as least as possible and being really cheap/jewish on all sorts of software licenses ,perks and others. It's a place that's not turning profit at all (with VC capital being injected for a few years now) but diversity hires were made nevertheless.

>>24449913
i cant fren i tryed but im too stupid to learn to code and maffs what do

>>24452384
She probably knows an awful lot about machine learning but fuck all about how to implement the mathematics in code. Its really not that rare in the field.

>>24450097
Suddenly this article makes sense.

https://www.redapt.com/blog/why-90-of-machine-learning-models-never-make-it-to-production

>>24453820
only b cannot be equal to zero because you are diving by b . a has nothing to with this . if a is equal to zero everything is ok.
you can delate " a=== 0 ||" part Without loss of generality. it will works the same but faster by miliseconds

>>24454088

I've heard this a lot throughout the years but it's bullshit. Just an excuse to give a pass to diversity hires.

>>24453825
There are situations you'd want a nested loop.

>>24454088
>knows an awful lot about machine learning
>is an idiot
>not that rare in the field
are you retarded or just a faggot?

>>24453966
I mean this just isn't true. Most f500 companies are going to want you to have a degree too tho, is that you're problem?

You're criticizing the credential benefits of them not their actual efficacy in teaching you a skill. Those are different things.

>>24452245
It's less data required, we honestly have enough, it's that this shit is *hard*.

It's easy enough to build a closed question/answer bot. It's basically fucking impossible, with current tech, to build a bot that can generalize it's knowledge and apply it to questions it's never seen before.

Same with vision. It's piss easy to get a net to recognize some object, pose, whatever in good lighting, from the same angle, without weird occlusion. But as soon as something like a cloudy day comes along, the thing shits itself.

I don't think we're going to solve these out of distribution problems until the next generation of hardware and new techniques are built. Even still, I am massively bullish on """"AI""""" because it really does solve narrow use cases better than a human would. E.g. Recognizing a tumor or abnormality in a medical screen. Or diagnosing engine problems by sound/other sensor data. Facial recognition. Genomics data mining. Factory computer vision. List goes on and on and honestly I'm not that creative, I know for sure there's crazy valuable niche cases where current tech is appropriate.

>>24454209
I mean I only added that because it would return zero either way, but if it bloats the code and slows it down unnecessarily then I'll keep that in mind. I figured it might be faster since it can just automatically return zero instead of running through the entire formula

>>24454310
It's faster in one case and slower in all others. realistically checking both is fine as checks are pretty cheap but if you're really trying to speed stuff up you want to minimize any bloat. Which doesn't necessarily mean less lines of code just to keep in mind that there is a time cost to everything you do.

>>24449913
>data scientist
>can't into loops

>>24449913
at this point i prefer to stick with belle delphine goin for hardcore porn news. In other news, i'll just sit and watch the world burn. With lube in hand, pork chops on the plate and beer in my belly.

>>24449913
>meme scientist has trouble figuring out for loops
>I did it without any help in like a minute
physics chads report in

>>24454284
Jordan Peterson made the argument for degrees in a nutshell: It's the screening process before and after. Before, as in an IQ assestment. Consientuousness during your course and networking after. You weed out the outliers that don't cut it. When bootcamps don't cut it as much as unis burn them both. They shouldn't exist because they don't provide proof of either competence or efford to apply.

>>24454289
I still disagree on the data part, the fact that general conversation is not possible is due to a lack of data.

I agree with you on the current usecases. AI is great for doing an initial analysis, but currently we still need a human expert actually making the final decision.

>>24454278
She apparently has a post graduate degree in it so I would guess that she understands it. If there was an accomplished male programmer who was having trouble understanding the mathematics of back propagation would we be having this thread? Its the same situation just in reverse. Programming and the mathematics of machine learning are two different skillsets, there's no reason to expect someone who has one to automatically have the other.

>>24454224
If you'd ever had to read attempts at programming by academics you wouldn't doubt it.

>>24454647
>General conversation is not possible is due to a lack of data.
BS. It's not possible because computers need to prove and understand text and speech the same way they prove a mathematical proof.

Ever heard of the halting problem or Goedel's theorem ?

>>24449951
I want to kill myself every time Americans post their salary, I live like 2 hours away from the border and make 50% of the pay while my living expenses are twice as much, and that's before taxes

>>24450097
I hate women

>>24450971
int a
int b

if a | b == 0
ans = 0
else
a = 1/a
ans = b/a

>>24453327
From what she said about trying to visualize them running at the same time, she's been horribly mis-educated. I could probably unfuck her understanding but I'm not sure I can get past her pride that leads her to think that name dropping laplace transforms and neurla nets will make her sound smart while being a total brainlet over something simple.

>>24454674
>having trouble understanding the mathematics of back propagation
>>24450945
>two-sum.py

>>24454644
They exist for their actual state purpose, are you so abstracted from reality that you can't see value an actually learning a skill for the sake of knowing it rather than the signal value?

>>24454647
Are you kidding? How much data do you think they have? How much do you think is necessary? There's fucking petabytes of data on human conversations at every big tech company.

You can sit there and throw literal supercomputers worth of effort at as much data as you want, and your system is still going to be brittle as fuck until we figure out how to get these things to generalize properly to unseen examples. Look at the DotA 2 bot for example, they threw absolutely insane amounts of computer power at it, they had training batch sizes in the MILLIONS, and yet it could only do 1v1, with the same character, and it fucking broke as soon as someone tried an unorthodox strategy against it.

It might just be we need bigger networks. They seem to follow scaling laws, where more parameters gets you lower losses, on less data, with more feature disentanglement, and more robustness to o.o.d. tasks.

But our current hardware is not equipped to handle the kind of computation we need for that. It's built to be good at what we are not; quick, precise, general computation. But it's sluggish and burns a ton of power -- yes literally electrical power, it matters when we want to put these things on edge devices -- to do the absurdly enormous matrix ops we need for big nets. Lots of people are working on this, from different approaches, and I expect it to be solved. But it's not going to happen for a while yet, because it's a hard, multidisciplinary problem.

>>24449913
>struggling with nested for loops
>data scientist

Why is there a wage gap, bros?

>>24454616
>physics chad
>figured out how to iterate

Proud of you, anon. Now do Djikstra and please invert a Binary Tree.

>>24454811
>int a
>a = 1/a
Moron.

>>24454924
Whats your point? Shes awful at programming yeah, so are a lot of machine learning people. Most programmers are going to be shit at machine learning. Because they are different skillsets.

>>24454725
just read about the goedel's theorem thing, wasn't aware of it before. Does this basically mean that we will never be able to do this with our traditional mathematics, i.e. we need quantum computing?

>>24454934
so, in the same vein of argument i mitigate your job in India. Have fun learning and watching paint dry alone, while a pajeet does your work.

>>24454289
>Recognizing a tumor or abnormality in a medical screen.
I read somewhere years ago that that AI program worked well in testing, but when they put it in actual hospitals it shit the bed and was missing tumors and misdiagnosing non-tumors as tumors all over the place, with a worse than chance random outcome.

>>24453316
Same here, best worker all around in academia/computer science is a 30yo ish eastern European woman

>>24455045
not even on quantum.

>>24455045
No, it just means theorem proving is a hard problem and we cannot brute force it.

Also, at a higher level, it tells us some problems in Mathematics may be literally unresolvable, and there's no way at all to tell which ones.

>>24455020
It actually works assuming the values are populated at some point after declaration.

>>24454644
This was the case back in the 20th century, before degree inflation became a thing. Now that everyone has a degree (by reducing requirements to attend and reducing the effort required to complete courses), they're totally useless for their stated purpose. The only place they still matter is in government, because the bureaucracy refuses to change rules. In the free market, everything is now judged based on what jobs you've held previously and/or networking. If you've never held a job before, it's based ENTIRELY on networking. As a whole, the system is moving very very close to some kind of modern feudalism.

Also Jordan Peterson is a hack, you don't need to cite him for anything.

>>24455144
At my workplace just to clarify

>>24455050
What? I'm literally writing this comment in leadership training today for my fortune 100 job.

>>24455134
That, honestly, just sounds like the people implementing the thing did a shit job. Or, equally plausible, boomers uncomfortable and afraid of automation spreading FUD.

Probably did a horrible job preprocessing, or trained it on images with a different distribution than ones it would actually encounter, or any number of things.

You want segmentation for medical images, so the model is clearly interpretable. Here is the issue, human-san, I have highlighted it in yellow.

>>24455143
>>24455157
interesting, learn something new everday.

>>24455246
Neither i need you for a crutch or citation. I call bullshit. Also, you don't bypass JP's arguments because you still need to prove compitance once inside any business. Without any gurantee of it you can sit at the door and stare at the people inside the building. In fact, you should get paid to open the door for them. If you can.

>>24455294
so do i. I still fired you 5 minutes ago in favor of a pajeet. Yours trully, your boss.

>>24455239
You'll do integer division since 1 and a are both integers so the code won't work.

>>24455349
>so do i

This smells like pajeet cope. Western programmers wipe the floor with foreign talents just on straight up productivity, let alone the ability to work directly with users to build the product they actually want instead of something that barely technically meets spec. Everything I've seen outsourced needed almost as much dev time as starting from scratch would have to make it actually work as a solution.

>>24455381
Ah, forgot about the typing, thought you were objecting to using a to store the result.

>>24455469
you're the one talking of leadership training for a "fortune 100 job". As if you needed training for something you'll never get. Unless you cope that way for your telemarketing 9-5 death.

>>24449913
>>24450033
>Women

>>24450033
She's talking about a nested for loop. How you can become a data scientist without knowing this backwards and forwards I have no idea

>>24455327
>because you still need to prove compitance once inside any business.
Funny enough, no you don't. There are many many jobs where you don't have to prove competence because someone else is really doing all the work. Ever heard of Price's Law? The main thing you have to do once you do have a job is please your boss, which may or may not have anything to do with what the company (as an entity) actually expects you to be doing. This is why you hear so many stories about office workers fucking around all day long and keeping their jobs to the end of time. It's very expensive to fire someone, and it reflects badly on a supervisor to fire someone in these situations rather than find them something harmless to do to pass the time.

Now, in some businesses I will grant you that you do indeed need to be competent. But a degree is not a declaration or proof of competence in the first place. All competence for a position within a company is determined by performance at the job itself after specialized in-house training. A degree doesn't mean shit for that except as a screening mechanism to keep the in-house training from being overwhelmed with too many idiots.

Anon, 99% of degrees are fucking worthless in 2020. Only the very top schools' degrees matter, and then only because of networking and alumni associations. Every other degree is actually worse than worthless, because they waste your money and more importantly your time as a student when you could be out networking or learning skills on your own. This is the true reason why men are only 40% of graduates right now: the competent men realize the waste of time that a degree is and just get busy on their own.

>>24455144
Unironically true, it's pretty shocking actually, without these actual high IQ egghead eastie women, i might have to consider all women as mentally retarded.

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>>24455705
fuck you're a dense one. Unless you start your own company how the fuck do you prove capability ? Even Joe Plumber started learning his shit somewhere, but he STILL NEEDED TO PROVE THE SKILLS HE HAS. And guess what motherfucker, he's certified for cleaning your shit. That's a degree even there. Now go fuck off and die.

Fucking breakpoints, how do they work?

>>24455913
ide level ? xunit level ? C asserts ? what ? tell us your story.

Time to short AI/ML. Fucking tech commodification.

Long biotech/nanobiophotonics/blockchain

>>24455879
Uh oh, this is looking like a case of buyer's remorse. How much did you spend on your degree, buddy?

>>24456033
you're the remorse. Have a good one hitting your head on the wall. You sure as fuck don't do any other job right. Not even pissing straight.

>>24456099
>thinking degrees have anything to do with competency.
Absolutely delusional, what a troglodyte.

>>24451401
Read about tech commodification, Saturation phase of S curve. IT on general has peaked, next wave is biotech. Read on kondratiev

>>24456212
don't see you making a dent, difference or progress here or any other place. Basically, tits or GTFO

>>24456212
I'm guessing he's in his final year of a VERY expensive degree and he's feeling anxious about having to actually find work once he graduates. His spelling and grammar is shit so I'm also guessing he's got no replies on his applications so far. He's gotta be sweating right now. I sure hope he invested in crypto!

>>24455381
>>24455506
Oh, I thought it would be better to do more than integer math. Python converts integers to float values, or at least I think it did in some previous version.

>>24451402
In today’s work environment, it’s more important to appear smart than actually be one. Diversity meme. But peeling one layer of onion, it seems the real culprit is cheap debt— sustaining so much zombie companies.

Cheap debt > zombie companies > trash culture > inefficiencies are OK

>>24456360
today's ? How about the last 20 years with one financial clusterfuck after the other

>>24456005
I'm a midwit, I also get lost on more than one nested loop. What I do then is set a breakpoint and step through the code to see what the hell is going on. It's not that hard. You certainly don't stare for hours at the code like a retard.

Many languages have them. Python for sure, it's even integrated into Visual Studio Code.

>>24456284
>I sure hope he invested in crypto!
must be difficulty to do when you're unemployed (full time student) with no income and +$50k debt.

>>24455593
Lol dude, you're mad as fuck.

>>24456287
int a
doesn't work in python
you just do a=0 or something

>>24451114
>>24451235
sadly, you made my day

>>24456439
so, on a scale of 10 to 10 i'm right in the mark sans your temp job assigment you would probably lose as soon as they could find someone who would work only for breathing.

>>24456442
Oh shit, that's right. Pretty sure the most correct answer involves bit shifting, but I've never done anything like that. So I don't really know.

>>24452207
>You're the guy who hasn't started using ctrl-s to save yet.
>Not using autosave in 2020
lmao

>>24450590
This is a microcosm of what the US is doing to itself in its entirety.

>>24451921
Hi Anna

>>24453131
shame shame America, you took somebodies resources! how dare you do what the strong have done since the beginning of time. my vision of the universe is a soft nonviolent place where were all are happy. wake up from your hippy haze, this is how it has always been, and always will be. when America has been dethroned, resources will still be gobbled up by the strongest. and I highly doubt you will like the morals and laws of that group of people. stop being a pussy!

>>24449913
>>24450097
As someone with zero experience or knowledge in coding, what is the main point about this thread? What's the deal?

>>24457017
didn't you learn ? Rat is the new currency.

>>24456424
I'm not sure what is confusing about this.

blah=[[a,b,c],
[d,e,f,g,h],
[i,j]]

outerloop:
for(outer = 0;outer<blah.length;outer++)//blah.length = 3 because there are three things inside blah [a,b,c], [d,e,f,g,h] and [i,j] so it will loop 3 times, one for each child
{

innerCollection = blah[outer] //this will be [a,b,c], [d,e,f,g,h] or [i,j] based on which time we've gone through the outer loop

for(inner = 0; inner<innerCollection.length; inner++) //now we go through each element in each collection
{
innerCollection[inner] = whatever
}

}

>>24456526
You are very clearly not a native english speaker, why are you commenting on the market of people who can speak english and program?

>>24457222
because you don't own eather. Now fuck off and die.

>>24454986
Fuck I see it

>>24457175
Anna is confused because she thinks both for loops are running at the same time, and possibly thinks columns are being evaluated at the same time as rows and that some math magic is happening to make it spit out the right answer (this is where she thinks she's stuck).

What's actually happening is that the elements in each row are being evaluated one at a time in the inner loop, and the outer loop then does the same process for each row separately before spitting out the answer at the end. She fundamentally misunderstands everything going on with loops and really needs to start over back at zero. Ironically, firing the mentor was the right move because a proper mentor would have realized just how incompetent she is and explained it to her from the beginning, rather than just assuming she's qualified because of her certificates and what she's working towards (completing coding challenges in a set time limit to apply at a FAANG company).

>>24457268
>you don't own eather
I own Ether if that's what you mean, and I both program and speak english fluently so if you meant to spell "Either" I have that too. If you're just inventing a new retarded word then I don't know what you tell you.

>>24457475
I suspect her mentor is like an online mentor that she doesn't send any useful information to or lies about understanding what they tell her.

>>24454986
>it could only do 1v1
what bot? OpenAI schooled OG 5v5

>>24449913
>>Just learn to code bro!
We have 1 woman out of the 40 programmers in my office, and 1 tranny. Most are just normal nerd dudes. Relax, these garbage women stem hires aren't taking over.

>>24450033
O(n^2) babbies

We’re fucked

>this brainlet woman is offered job interviews at big companies because she has a vagina
They don't even look at my CV because I don't have a degree

>>24457639
>certain items (divine rapier, bottle) were eliminated; the number of heroes was reduced from 18 to 17; techniques such as scams and illusions were forbidden; and the number of couriers was one.

>>24453159
Very useful anon

>>24457899
No degree? The trick is to start your own company and become a consultant or contractor and get contract work. But do you really want to work for the devil anyway?

>>24450097
oh this is just a troll

>>24455037
That's not true, ML data scientists are really good at array programming/vectorization/tensorization because that is what current vector space models require.

When I am stumped by a difficult vectorization issue in an ML function such as applying some combination function of multiple different shaped tensors, I fall back on nested loops as a last resort for prototyping. Granted, horribly inefficient compared to the outdoor vectorized solution and have always fixed it later. In research prototypes. This bitch can't even handle nested loops, there's no hope for her in ML.

>>24450945
Lol truly pathetic.

>>24457846
you need to go back

>>24451495

quick python implementation

multiPairs = {}
def multiply(a, b):
global multiPairs
multiString = str(a) + "*" + str(b)
if(multiString in multiPairs):
return multiPairs[multiString]
elif(b == 1):
multiPairs[multiString] = a
return a
else:
multiPairs[multiString] = multiply(a, math.ceil(b/2)) + multiply(a, math.floor(b/2))
return multiPairs[multiString]

Fuck this I’m moving all my equities to China tech sector.

>>24459943
TBF, this would treat 5*3 and 3*5 as separate entries into the lookup table, but this is only a time save for future multiplications beyond the first done using it.

Data science is a meme. 90% of them are just code monkeys who don't understand statistics

The concept of Data Scientists as an elite role in data has been totally diluted. Most Data Scientists now just bang a bunch of copy pasted code into a python notebook and have no idea how to build or deploy a reliable, scalable product.

>>24457017
it's r/iamverysmart

As someone who has a background learning C in school and I can nest and unlimited amount of for loops without a bug is this skill even useful? Or can most programmers do this?

>>24460311
Oh shit dude, really? You can do that? That's fucking amazing man, hardly any programmer can do unlimited for loops, wow. You've got it made kid, basically write your own check. Remember us when you're running skynet.