/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24424667
to clarify - I'm receiving phishing spam not generic spam.

Life Hack. Fill out your name on sites like this John Ledger Smith. When you start getting spam and they’re using the name you entered you know who sold your data

why you faggots never buy from amazon?

>>24424667
They said it was as plugin which leaked data since 2019. They were definitely covering something up. Shame ledger device is good but the company is fucking ass.
>>24424816
Third party tampering and also cheaper on site

>>24424667
I ordered on the 26th. No French spam so far.

>>24424667
I only hear about this shady shit here and there with ledger, never heard anything about trezor. And that’s the main reason i bought a trezor

>>24424872

So I wasn't part of the initial data leak from 2019. I am a new ledger customer. This is my first time ordering one. I ordered directly from ledgers website and not amazon.

I'm not sure if this is related to the 2019 (unless it's still ongoing). Either way, the timing seems really suspicious

>>24424872
tampering on a sealed package?
every ledger gets checked by ledger live software
and every ledger gets a new seedphrase
whats there to tamper?the chip?

>>24424951
unknown risk not worth it

So I get calls from chinks saying I signed up to some investment site. Spam called me for weeks when finally I answer and some Chinese cunt starts rambling.
>Binance
Now I got a phone call from Tunisia the other day. That was a new one. Didn't answer first time, then pick up and immediate disconnect.
>Ledger

I am pretty sure these cunts are giving my details out.

Why people choose ledger over trezor is beyond me especially if you do a little research behind each company and intended on storing 5-6+ figures on it

>>24425069
I think it might be a rogue insider at Ledger.

>>24424926
Posts like these make me feel like ledger and tenzor both run viral campaigns on /biz/ against one another.

Fuck I bought one the other day. Any whales here that rely on ledger and have no issues? I'm about to deposit a significant amount, but now I'm concerned

>>24425069
I got a call from Tunisia yesterday too. It rang a few times then hung up. I never answered. But I googled it and it said it's a scam to get you to call back and be charged international fees.

Haven't got any phising emails. Ledger user here

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

you fucken niggers. never had any problem.

>>24425056
It's easy enough to just look at the site and look at the model ledger you got, crack it open, and compare it to the pictures they have on their site. It's so easy a retard could do it.

>>24425251
Ledger leaking your email won't affect the device itself
just don't install firmware you got from ranjeesh@gmail.com

>>24425266
Yeh no emails either.
Mine was yesterday too actually. We could trade details and figure where our point of contact crosses. But I don't trust these mongolian basket weavers.

>>24425303
Fucking myspace

>>24424926
The issue went on into 2020. Ledger did not find the issue till this august. >>24425157 this is what worriers me the most.

>>24424667
My Trezor does not have this issue.

Why do you need a ledger. can't you just sign it off a USB or something

>>24424667
>email on protonmail unused / DID phone number) because I heard about ledger leaking customer info in the past.
What’s the point of doing all this if you gave them your physical address

>>24425203

I don't know what trezor is regardless, as someone mentioned above, I don't necessarily care about my email, I care about my other contact details like my physical address that can be used to steal my identity, sim swap me and other various activities like holding me ransom. I hold a significant amount of crypto so I'm panicking some what. I'd rather not be potentially kidnapped and have my knees broken

>>24425516
It's still a reduction of attack vector. I'd rather a fake email kept compromised than my personal email.

Any OPSEC is better than no opsec.

>>24425520
Only solution is to move home. Ledger are impossible to contact to pay compensation aswell

>>24424920

>>24425520
you should definitely buy a gun.
>>24425654
I'm surprised they haven't been sued yet

>>24425654
I move apartments every year thankfully. Owning a home right now is stupid. The market is going to tank come summer.

>>24425824
I have a rifle

why are you faggots FUDing ledger? only retards click links that claim to be from ledger. i've been using mine for years without any pajeet hack.

What's to stop the company itself or some tech savvy employees from putting some sort of backdoor on the device? Wait until you have a few million devices out there and then wipe everybody out all at once.

>>24424797
Life Hack: Take cocaine before talking to people

>>24424816
>never buy from amazon?
Because Amazon doesn't sequester their various resellers from each other, so if you buy from the Ledger Store on Amazon, you could get a counterfeit or a hacked one or one that has already been set up or one that has its card filled out with "these are your secret words".

I worked for a manufacturer that sold its own products in the U.S. through Amazon. Even when people bought from "our" store, Amazon was shipping counterfeits out of Chinese resellers' bins. Even though Amazon's contracts state that they will never do this. Even though Amazon refuses to admit that they do this.

Amazon is scum, and I refuse to shop on their site any more, because you NEVER know what you're going to get sent.

just use a yubikey retards

>>24427035
Whoops, hope mine isn't fucked.

>>24425128
Trezor is already known to be insecure. There are companies selling "recover your keys from your Trezor" hardware. All it takes is access to the hardware.

Leger has a "secure element" chip which may or may not be hackable. No one knows because it is closed source.

Up to you which one you trust.

>>24425435
You can build your own Trezor clone out of a Raspberry Pi now. Just use TrueCrypt to encrypt the data files and you're probably more secure than on either a real Trezor or a Ledger.

pitrezor.com

>>24425333
Thanks anon