/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24297991
IT’S LIKE XRP FOR STOCKS HOLY SHIT

>>24297991
>NOOOOOOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN TIME IN THE MARKET BEATS TIMING THE MARKET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>24297991
My dad is bagholding intel since the 80's.
Was the best investment he could've made for a decade and a half but he fell for the muh dividends meme

yes

>>24298089
>"are you winning dad?"

>>24298089
Did intel split or something? What did he buy it at?

>>24297991
Dividends tho

>>24297991
This is nothing, imagine investing into the largest bank of the largest economy in Europe

Literally, and I mean that in the dictionary, literal sense of the world, absolutely nobody is still holding cisco stock they bought at the peak in 2000. Professional stock traders just eat the loss and apply that loss against their taxes on gains, so they don't care. Plus, they can wait a year and buy back in and ride it back up over time. Index funds also don't care they just adjust their holdings to match some index and they're fine.

The stock market doesn't work like crypto markets full of amateurs.

>>24297991
It's paying dividends 4 times a year, so even those who bought the top, are pretty much break even if still holding. But of course inflation should be calculated too..

>>24298099
making the mother of all bubbles here, elon

>>24298278
Can you get custom leaps that go out many years?

>>24298099
Why are muttoids so obsessed with Tesla. They're shit cars.

>>24298413
Better than your cars chang

>>24297991
>average of 3.5% increase in value each year since 2000 with quarterly dividends
not great, not bad. certainly underperformed for a company that dominates corporate networking/voip however.

>>24298068
t. retard who doesn't understand diversification or the beauty of ETFs.

what would 10,000 invested post tech bubble burst be worth today will all DRIP

>>24298413
I see tesla cars everywhere, even in oil country Texas. I don’t see any Chen cars. Also mobility as a service. Wait till Tesla gets starlink net access.

>>24298413
There are a ton of zoomers who jack off to Elon. They really think he's some kind of superhero. Eventually it will all pop. The company has only had a handful of profitable quarters (never profitable for the full-year), and that was only due to certain credits that they received. Commercial space travel won't really take off until most of us are long dead, too.

>>24298619
>7% inflation adjusted return!!!!
(if you use the kiked BLS CPI measure of inflation which dramatically understates inflation)

>>24298481
Chang makes actually better and cheaper cars.
You might've missed the moment where TikTiok surpassed Instagram, Xiaomi surpassed Intel, Hongqi surpassed Tesla .
China is the tech superpower now.

>>24298619
whats a good one that doesnt have a huge spread, ones ive been eyeing you have to pay like 8% over the market price in spread

>>24298723
That's because the (((entity))) is hiding behind China now. It could have released this tech 300 years ago while it was hiding behind the british empire or 100 years ago in the US.

cisco R&D is top notch, always innovate, the problem is the Chinese just copy everything and use there 20c a day wage to capture the market.

>>24298721
Enjoy losing everything with your dogshit active management strategy. If I were talking to you in person, I'd gladly have a bet with you to see which strategy yields the greatest returns over thirty years.

>>24298893
thirty years?
you had three

>>24298962
I'm talking about their dismissal of "time in the market beats timing the market."

>>24298893
Kys go buy your vanguard shite

>>24299172
VOO is my biggest holding and it will provide me great returns over the next twenty-thirty years. And I know that I'll come out ahead of you.

>>24299276
Anon there's nothing wrong with investing in stocks or having a retirement plan but please don't kid yourself over its effectiveness

>>24299453
Imagine believing this.

>>24299482
You really think that VOO is going to gain more than crypto the next 20 years? Really?

>>24298208
I'm sure there were amateur stock traders then. Wasn't that the peak of the dotcom bubble?

Heh i still own this at $27

It was ok it pay dividends through all of it. but i still lost thousands.

Every now and then i consider averaging down.

>>24298068
If you stay at a shit company no time can help you.

>>24299518
Absolutely yes.

>>24298204
imagine investing into german stocks in general

>>24298619
ETF's are for faggots unless they are 3x leveraged ETF's. Stock pickers are the true CHADS of Wall Street.

>>24299706
what's wrong with German stocks? (Granted, the US performed better in the last 10 years.)
TecDax performed only slightly worse than NASDAQ over the past years...

>>24299688
It's a lot easier to just say "I'm retarded", and it eliminates additional guesswork.

>>24298099
holy mother of bubbles

>>24300210
Enjoy losing everything to the latest memecoin. LMAO.

>not posting the mother of all shitstocks

>>24297991
You'd have more value than that now just from dividends alone

>>24301329
holy zimbabwean USD

>>24298676
This. Tesla cars are junk. Porsche and BMW make much nicer electric vehicles.

>>24301208
>has no idea how any of this works
>brags about being retarded and owning some garbage shit earning half of inflation
yep its boomer time

>>24301589
Imagine thinking crypto is a long-term wealth builder.

>>24298099
funny part is that tesla cars are really shit

>>24301329
what is the second mother of shitstocks

>>24301698
Do you browse /r/buttcoin? No seriously, how can you continue to be wrong? It's been a decade. You're going to work until you're 60-70, and then retire and get your nice corvette and you're not going to look cool at all or get to experience it the way it should be because you "played it safe". Go listen to Dave Ramsey, it's obvious that you're too retarded to be here.

>>24298204
germans are the shittiest europeans, literally all of them cheat. basically the chinks of europe

>>24301810
I'm going to retire by around 40. Try again.

>>24301810
You’re a speculator/gambler, not an investor. The S&P 500 will beat the crypto market long-term.

>>24301329
REQ for stonks

>>24299553
I'm sure they all panic sold like retards. Holding bags in the stock market is just dumb because you get tax breaks for being a fuck up, it makes more sense to just let Uncle Sam eat your loss for you.

>>24298068
If you dca’d this you would still be fine

>>24298676
>The company has only had a handful of profitable quarters
They've never actually had a profitable quarter. All of their "profit" is literally selling tax credits to other companies. It's the equivalent of the government giving you $200 in food stamps and you sell them to a crack head for $100

>>24298723
>China
>Superpower

>>24298721
you are retarded
read sowell, inflation is downwardly biased

>>24298619
t. millennial living off fed stimulus

>>24298089
>fell for the meme of actually getting your money back

>>24298099
Tesla 'bout to crash hard. It's literally the meme chart

>>24298723
My oh my nice car
Also why are you comparing Xiaomi with Intel and not Apple? Apple makes chips n shit like intel does too but Xiaomi also does phones, Intel doesn't do phones, Apple does
TikTok passed instagram but it isn't competing with instagram it's a more competing with Snapcrap
It's videos, Instagram is mainly photos
Lastly Hongqi passed Tesla, great good job

>>24301917
Good luck normie
>>24301953
Cope

>>24302430
I can almost promise you that I have more money than you have.

>>24297991
Cisco is old technology, US government is keeping them alive so they can spy on the rest of the world.

Muh Tesla car with laptop battery kek.

>>24302248
>JUST LOCK UP YOUR LIQUIDITY FOR 20 YEARS TO ENJOY SHITTY RETURNS AND DIVIDENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>24299706
TUI is going to make me rich.

>>24301329
Biz memed me into this. Lost $3k. Good times frens.

>>24302470
I’ve been hearing that for about five years. Stock is rising because governments are talking about banning petrol and diesel, only way it will crash is if the Electric car world comes and it isn’t still a leader.

Italian boomers lost thousands with this

Is ARKK worth buying? I feel like investing in active management is a bad idea.

>>24298619
>Just invest in ETFs bro

Good example of knowing when to cut your losses. Even if you pulled your money out at the bottom, you could have dumped it into some other company (Amazon, etc) and seen 10x gains.

>>24302784
Holy shit

>>24298413
Because who doesn't want to be a rolling virtue signal driving the vehicular equivalent of a pumpkin spice latte.

>>24302854
>European

>>24302854
>just get ETFs
>just make 6% on your portfolio per year

>>24302470

will it climb to 1000 before the pop? All the ETFs are going to buy it in December.

what is the best website to get stocks info and news?

>>24298046
Lmao

>>24301854
Iss dein Schnitzel

>>24297991
I used to work at Shitsco until 2015, the company slowly started to circle the drain after the stock crash of 2011 and loads of the old guard left the company for greener pastures. The company has then had layoffs after layoffs and now it's an annual cycle. Nobody decent is left at that company anymore, I'm honestly surprised the company hasn't gone into bankruptcy yet.

>>24298068

if you hold one stock you are not spending time in the market, you are spending time holding one stock.

>>24298804
>That's because the (((entity))) is hiding behind China now.
Imagine believing Jews are actually ultra-genius elites and not just crafty nepotists. The Chinese are excelling because of their lack of Jews. When/if they allow Jews to come in and dictate things like America did starting around the 1910s, is when China begins to slow, stagnate, and then decline.

>>24302747

Even if you look to 2025 stock will still be too expensive. Valuation is beyond all reason. My bullish scenario is that Tesla is reasonably valued in ten years or something. Most likely though it will never deliver what it's market cap implies.

>if you hold one stock you are not spending time in the market, you are spending time holding one stock.

>>24298723
>Hongqi surpassed Tesla
so a steaming pile of shit surpassed a ppol of vomit?
wow i'm so impressed
now get back into the bus you faggot and talk about cars once you held a steering wheel in your söy hands

>>24298676
Elon IS a hero. If we had just a handful more people like him in the world humanity and its future would be secured.

>Elon IS a hero. If we had just a handful more people like him in the world humanity and its future would be secured.

>>24297991
>>24298068

lmao

>>24304805
He's literally creating a device that will get rid of a condition that has plagued my life for almost 15 years. I will owe him a lot.

>>24304888
What device and what condition?

>>24304888
Guns already exist

>>24304760
Kys

>>24304888
I didn't know Elon was developing a machine to cure aids.

>>24304888
finally an affordable anal plug remover great
I also have that condition with my anus that makes it that whatever comes in is really difficult to get out

>>24297991
Now factor in inflation

>>24302651
>5iq id

>>24298208
My dad still has some. Been like 25 years

>>24303875
at least their phones still come with comfy hold music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pais41IW5dk

>>24297991

Imagine bag holding microsoft since 1997

>>24298089
>market is down "Fuck You, Pay Me"
>market is up "Fuck You, Pay Me"
>market is sideways "Fuck You, Pay Me"
>not making enough profits to pay for dividends? fire your employees and "Fuck You, Pay Me".

How are dividends a meme again?

>>24297991
>what are dividends
Cisco will be here after 30 years paying dividend each year.

>>24306283
>what is inflation
The charts aren't adjusted for inflation. This from 2013 so now it's even worse.

http://www.aboutinflation.com/Dow-Jones-vs-Inflation/cisco-inflation-adjusted-chart-csco

Dot-com bubble was massive.

>>24305287
I hear this hold music all the time whenever I call my car insurance company, always liked this tune, never heard it in high quality. Thanks anon this was actually pretty comfy

I can’t fucken wait for INAQ to go to $16 on Friday boys

>>24302419
>>24298893

yes i guess that's why the kikes claim 1.3% inflation yet housing, healthcare, and tuition go up by 5% minimum every year. or even food.

>>24302651
5 IQ