/biz/ - Business & Finance

fuck generals, they’re gay. good 1000x though.

Explain why you are still trusting this project, when it's done nothing for months. Why buy?

>>24139622
Because they have been doing stuff. Read the latest dev update.

>>24139622
I care about exchange listing not project

>>24138601
Too many gay animations, looks unprofessional, untrustworthy, and pajeet tier

>>24138601
The new swap feature is cool. Has the fud stopped with this? When are we going up?

>>24140234
Nice cope faggot. Shit looks clean as fuck. Also SCAM!

>>24140234
Nah it looks slick. Stakenet xsn's biggest problem is it's not out right now reaping the rewards of the start of the bullrun. Maybe they are timing it with the new major exchange listing announcement but they need to hurry before they launch in a bear market

>>24140405
The workflow or whatever looks good. Literally everything fading or moving in different directions and 360+ degree spins do not.

>>24140467
I like it, maybe you are just gay?

>>24140691
Maybe you're a pajeet?

>>24138601
Bullish as fuck, very close to an absolute explosion with this one.

>>24140714
If you have feed back go to the discord and give it to the team, they will appreciate it.

Improving things requires complaining about it, i like it so it's hard for me to complain. But you on the other hand can do so.

Funny how people wants to trade with a condom on, instead of trading real assets.

Wrapped BTC is a fucking joke, trade the real thing.
Stakenet makes that happen, instantly too.
What's not to like?

They should fire the person in charge of design. Animations are pajeet for sure. Also everything is unnecessarily bloated for some reason. Absolutely no taste.

>>24140742
I'm not invested so no. But there's a reason you don't see stuff like this in the ledger wallet. Animations should help UX if they are present, like something swishing away when you send it for example.

>>24140804
The video in the op is the SSUI (for retards), the dex also has a pro mode. What is the problem with the animation/bloat?

>>24140761
Because they are ETH basedboys, and like centralised bodies such as those that hold the BTC collateral that gives WBTC it's value.
>>24140831
I understand that, it's helpful advice but I think over time the DEX will simplify and these features will get removed

>>24140851
>What is the problem with the animation/bloat?
I could ask you the same: what's the justification for the animations? Why is there no animation when you trade on Binance, or when you search on Google?

>>24140986
... And it's not just the "animations". Everything in regards to design is all fucked in this project. Look at this site: https://orderbook.stakenet.io/monitor/xsn_btc
Things are just all fucked and, for some reason, messy.

>>24140986
>>24141003
>fudders complaining about everything
Stat page is still in the works hence the 'beta'

The animations are because it's a simple swap for retards, it helps them understand what is going on with their trade. Comparing a layer 2 swap to a google search is retarded.

>>24141003
Clearly says beta at the top ut the page can be cleaned up a bit. I'd start with simplifying the background. Looks tacky almost like tyedye

>>24141120
>posw
>comparing a single pair beta page to an overview
The absolute stat of fudders

>>24141120
>Shit 1990's tier PHP design is much nicer than something that looks like it was made after 2010
kek, nice fud/troll big boy

>>24141147
>beta page
How is that a justification for terrible design? They're just going to slab "beta" on everything the create until the end of time? Not to mention it's a fucking STATS PAGE. Talk about being married and incapable of processing any criticism of your project.

>>24141183
Retard alert, They is only so many stats to display for a single pair. The fact that you used 'posw' in your previous pic tells me your intentions.

>>24141196
>Retard alert, They is only so many stats to display for a single pair.
Lol, what are you even trying to say here? I didn't talk about the n. of items on the page. Getting triggered by a file name now? Yeah, definitely not being too sensitive in regards to your investment.

You idiots are the same blind shills who claimed "Raiden is working just fine, and there is no issues fudders!!" just a week ago. Take a few steps back and evaluate your cult position.

>>24140453
Their marketing and understanding of how to get individuals and investors interested is shit. I wouldn’t hire them to man a McDonald’s drive through window.


On the other hand a good project and a big exchange with an Autostic dev team has shades of nano

>>24141249
>>24141271
Thanks for the input. X9 have got it covered. I'm not the same idiot that is saying Raiden was working fine. The UI on the page isn't the best but there are so many more important things that are being worked on right now that are going to have a far greater impact than a stats page for single trading pairs before the DEX release

>>24141120
Holy fuck, fudders just fucking end yourselves, your retarded sense of style is literally shit as fuck.

>>24141271
We may be a cult (an unbelievably based and chad such) but what does that make you guys? I'd say constantly and relentlessly fudding projects you ((apparently)) "detest" for 6+ months is ten times worse cult behavior. In fact you're the gatekeepers to the cult because you don't want new members to buy up your cheap and exceedingly appetizing XSNax. Or you're part of the CZ cult, in which case continue seething because your ass is gonna get unbelievably rekt soon, DEEEPLY.

>>24140804

>>24141304
No point to market if the product isn't finished.

>>24141271
>wahhhh nooooo not scamnet
>not posw
>nooooo i dont like your design
>you should drop everything to make a webpage
>nooooooo not STAKECONNEXT!!!!

>>24141794
The absolute s ó y with these fudders is hilarious

So with eth and btc rallying like a mother, I really think Stakenet will pick up steam since it’s dex will be the first true bridge between the two. I have been faithfully staking away. I believe you devs!

>>24141313
I was always skeptical of raiden due to no windows client. Glad they’ve moved away.

All FUD'ers must fucking hang.

>>24142303
Based
>>24142177
Checked

>>24141271
4 days ago
>t-they made the Raiden demos in Sony Vegas theyre not even real - SCAM
Now
>w-we tried to graciously warn you about the shortcomings of Raiden without just shrieking about the lack of immediate Windows support and no one listened - scam :(
Rich coming from the fudder who makes dedicated hate threads when no one is even talking about XSN

>>24143463
Lulz. Rekt.

>>24143990
No level of mental gymnastics will stop XSN from hitting double digits

>>24144310
If you know you know.

>>24144310
It's happening, and once they're ready, the price will likely reach a new ATH, and my passive income will 10x.

>>24143463
Schizo cultist at it again. The "fud" was that Raiden doesn't work on Windows, and therefore it's a dead-end. Schizos claimed (people like you) this is not an issue, and Raiden is ready any second now. You act like this is XSN discord, and no shadow shall be cast on XSN. Fuck off pajeet.

>>24144965
Reminder that fudders are kikes who want to 'save' you from investing into a 'scam'.

>>24144965
this so much

>>24144988
Samefag

>>24144984
>randomly generated ID makes investment decisions for me
brainlet retard detected.
Xsn is highly ambitious but they had more than enough opportunities to prove their worth and they failed at almost every one of them. Then they decide to switch to connext AFTER the beta for their product. Their team will get overwhelmed by other teams being way more productive and communicative. Stakenet is dead, the competition is ahead and everything they do gets stolen and implemented and adopted in a better way by people who know how to play the PR game.
The coin's community is literally 80% from /biz/ and the rest are turkish bots.

>>24144984
You're either tombowl/matteo or some other retard that spams nonsense on the XSN discord. You're so fucking married to this you can't have any real discussion about the ACTUAL progress made on the project.

>>24145048
Amazing how you fudders just lie, grasp straws and move goal posts.

>>24145056
exposing tombowl
CHECK'EM

>>24138601
WOW COOL ANIMATIONS! LIT BRO!

>>24145056
Imagine typing blatant fud on /biz/. If you wanted an actual discussion you would try to make a real argument. Instead you regurgitate the same old fud and move goal posts.
>>24145068
Kys faggot.
>>24145069
>1 post by this id
Fudder switches his ip. How much is cz paying you?

>>24145098
Nigger stfu and stop claiming samefagging, you're a fucking retard who spams XSN threads every morning fucking rope yourself already biz has enough scamcoins, go to scamtera if you need a bizcult coin.

>>24145098
top kek i haven't been on /biz/ for 2 days schizo

>>24145127
>S-Scam
>nooo don't post xsn I still need to buy more
You had years faggot.
>>24145130
>The fudder recedes as he is found out

>>24145098
>Imagine typing blatant fud on /biz/.
Seems like anything written by someone else than you is "fud". Same idiot keeps "checking" and calling people "gay fudders" on every thread. I bet you think this is actually good for XSN.

>>24145144
Imagine being this guy, fucking jesus christ...

>>24145144
the only thing receding is your hair when you see that your little shit plan wont play out.
It was a promising idea I'm not even really claiming scam, but they're just too fucking slow for this market and their comprised of autist dev team and an autistic community. No market stratgist no social media fag weak ass youtube/ twitter/ and insta pages.

>>24145170
You cunts come to fud in every thread. You never present any real arguments. It's always the same shit
>scam
>they cant do eth
>no github
>haha see no raiden
>discord trannies
>dead coin
>2 years no work
>>24145180
>>24145191
>slow for this market
Same fud as always. Try harder cz.

>>24145144
why? did someone else say the same thing earlier? wouldn't surprise me since those animations look like the s o i boy version of exchanges, did a 13 year old make the concept for that?

>>24145200
>noooo don't make nice animations
>noooooooo please stakenet i need cz's weekly allowance

>>24138601
Do the needful sir

The truth of the matter is, everyone was backing Raiden as the second coming of Jesus and that its implementation was just around the corner.

The "fudders" would say Raiden doesn't work, and the XSN-boys would do everything to refute it.

Now that XSN themselves have cast aside Raiden, suddenly Raiden was always useless and now everyone is sucking off Connext and saying that its suddenly a good thing that Raiden was dropped.

WTF?

>>24145257
Because raiden is shit, shills weren't aware of this. Stakenet has been testing connext for several months now (if you read the latest dev update you can confirm).

>>24145211
this is what happens when you're too emotionally invested into a shitcoin, makes you unable to think clearly. try taking a step back and look at this shitshow of a project from an outsider perspective, you would realise some things

>>24145303
If you weren't a gay nigger you would know how amazing the dev work is. They are far ahead of every other project, yet you fudders keep spamming the same shit
>it's a shitshow
>they'll never pull it off
etc

>>24145200
like sticking hotwheels racing car stickers on a bike

>>24145257
Everyone with any brain cells left knew that Raiden is not ready for release, except the people who migrated to biz from the discord echo chamber. It is a GOOD thing that the team publicly admitted this, though now the turks and other discord retards are scrambling to assemble a new reality.

>>24145339
Latest fud by blockcucks/cz and his crew
>L-look the animations bad
>noooo they are bad

>>24145277
>several months
3 weeks is not several months you degenerate

>>24145355
I have been in the connext discord. Stakenet team members have msgs from a few months ago asking about connext. The 3 weeks is how long they had the client running without any downtime.

Kikes resorting to whining about animations because they missed out on 1k masternodes

>>24145277
>Stakenet has been testing connext for several months
Lol, just blatantly fabricating "facts" out of thin air again.

>>24144965
>anyone that doesnt immediately accept my line of obsessed and made up slander is schizo
>y-your not allowed to bring up the stuff i made up 3 days ago now that it was proven wrong
kek

>>24145629
You can check what i said out for yourself you jew.
Inb4
>changes ip 5 times to complain about animations

>>24145647
I have. Looks like you're a liar.

>>24145056
>11 posts by this ID
Seethe more CZ. Hope you've been having a nice day doing nothing other than fudding a "scam project" for the past 5 hours. That's a true dedication to behold, for sure.

>>24145689
wtf does that have to do with i just said?

>>24145640
>>y-your not allowed to bring up the stuff i made up 3 days ago now that it was proven wrong
What are you even talking about? Second time you quote me with absolute nonsense. Try and form a coherent response, will you?

>>24145698
How have they tested it for "months", if they had no clue how to implement it on 09/10/2020?

>>24145738
>out of context screenshot
You didn't even go to the connext discord did you?

>>24145744
>You didn't even go to the connext discord did you?
It's from the Connext discord. Do you know how the search function works?

>>24145770
Do you know how to do a basic search? Hint jo park has been in there for months asking questions.

>>24145786
>Hint jo park has been in there for months asking questions.
I just showed you something you obviously were not aware of. I hope you don't think jopark is a dev on this? You're trying to force-shill this, but don't even grasp half of the facts.

>>24145715
>raiden doesnt work on windows
the usual response from me was "you have two teams in x9 and raiden that have a lot of experience in porting across platforms so i dont see that being a huge concern"
the next day...
>raiden doesnt work on windows
>w-why wont anyone ADDRESS MY CONCERNS - SCAM
then eventually..
>they made the raiden demos in sony vegas - t-theyre not even real
presently..
>w-we tried to respectfully warn everyone about raiden and no one listened because scam :(
rinse and repeat tomorrow when you will inevitably dedicate half your day towards spamming redundant bullshit

>>24145828
>ignores everything
>noooooo it's not real
>please no don't make a real dex

>>24145841
Ouch, have you not heard they ditched Raiden? One of the reasons they listed was that it doesn't work on Windows.

>>24145872
Retard alert.

>>24145846
You tried to lie that they've been testing it for months. Got called out on that lie, and now reverting back to the old nonsense, lmao

>>24145889
It's not a lie. Keep pulling shit outta your ass jew.

>>24145910
>show a screenshot that proves it clearly is a lie
>IT'S NOT A LIE!!!!!!
Pathetic.

>>24145925
>posts a out of context screenshot
>noooo devs havent worked on connext despite being in the connext discord for months
Kys jew.

>>24145872
Raiden has a lot of promise but Connext allows them to get a lot more done in the short term and also allows trading real ETH instead of wETH. I don't see the issue here.

>>24145935
>>posts a out of context screenshot
Is this an "out of context" screenshot also?

>>24145961
>I don't see the issue here.
Neither do I. My point was that people calling Raiden out months ago were accurate.

How do I claim the Flare airdrop?

>>24146004
Maybe now raiden will pay attention to people who use windows ie most

>>24145974
>>24146004
>07
>August
Literally months ago

>>24146072
I think the bigger issue is them trying to peddle a token with it. Literally token not needed.

>>24146108
>August
Whoops i meant July

So 4 months ago.

>>24146108
What don't you understand about what I posted? It's one of the lead developers asking about connext. Jopark at that time wasn't even in the team, and of course they had been looking at other solutions, but that doesn't mean they were TESTING or DEVELOPING on it.

>>24146004
I dont remember anyone raising any legitimate issues with Raiden other than that it wasn't immediately available on Windows. X9 submitted a request for exactly that to the Raiden devs back in July. That concern was spammed relentlessly.

>>24146004
So what you're angry about is that you got shilled into the project at the top by exaggerated "promises" from the shills, and not that the project itself is actually bad? So what's the point of your FUD then? Why are you fudding when you're obviously invested in the project? Are you angry because people on /biz/ aren't having a "good and objective discussion" where we circle-jerk about every minor problem that appears?

>>24146230
The summer pump was generated from the (legit) open beta release. After the dump started, the shilling got worse and worse, as desperate bagies started to lie and deny everything to save their $10 pajeet investments. Reading these shills that don't even grasp the basics of this IS infuriating.

>post excessive zoomer animation
>have several people point out that it's stupid and they wouldn't want to watch this shit when trading
>create alternate reality where everyone's just some paid fudder switching IPs, cope because subconciously know they're right
story of OP's life, pic related is him

>>24146060
HAHHAHAHA

>>24146227
Take note, I've pointed out exactly what happened over the past few months above^ and the fudder immediately dodged and started running its mouth about some new irrelevancy.
Sad and desperate.

>>24146122
every crypto project ever. Stupid FUD

>>24146675
Yeah, not working or Windows or not supporting any relevant tokens definitely isn't a "legitimate issue".
>It doesn't work
>that's not a legitimate issue!

>>24146804
Kek

>>24146804
Raiden is directly compatible with all ERCs, save for ETH itself (hence the need to use ETH).
Spamming "it isn't on windows" everyday isnt anything but redundant concern shilling.

>>24147727
wETH*

>>24146460
Next run for keeps

>>24147727
The devs dropped it because it's a piece of shit, no need to make excuses for it any longer. Funny how the team stated the same reasons for dumping it, which you call "redundant concern shilling (sic)". Did they drop it for no good reason?

Raiden fucked off, Connext in, the details of the change are not worth discussing because it's clear that the team tried to make Raiden meet their requirements but couldn't so have switched. Hearing news about how the ETH key integration goes, as well as the exchange listing potential will be the next big price-altering news IMO.

>>24148129
Yay another year of waiting for them to dump their next solution when that doesn't work either! Boy I sure love having my money parked in a DEX project that literally never delivers.

>>24148840
Sell if you don't want in. We aren't far off now

>>24145127
summarize your concerns pls. I can't make heads or tails of it with your shit flinging and ad hominem

>>24148129
Connext is simply the better option to go with. The Raiden devs are good. They have one of the most active githubs in crypto.
>>24148801
The fudders act like CNN

>>24148899
Checked. They will never stop throwing tantrums over ancient news and irrelevancies.

>>24148899
Far off a 100x. We arnt

14 MN reporting in.

Yummy prices these days.
Not selling any before 1$

Can’t wait to see eth swaps now.

>>24145191
>too slow
still looks like they'll be first to market if you ask me. who is further along that will have a functional cross-chain L2 solution?

>>24146460
Why is it infuriating to you? I mean, it's obvious that people prop up the projects they are invested in, in the same way people fud the good projects because they want to buy cheaper. But genuinely getting angry I really don't get what you gain anything from. Just observe the situation and make a based decision on your own without giving a fuck about what fucking /biz/lets or discord shills tell you. Whatever anyone says after you've made your decision should glide off like water, unless damning evidence suddenly contradicts your conviction.

Also I find your sentiment rather disingenuous, I've been observing for the past 5 months from before the pump and if anything the fudding has been far far more relentless and straight up based on lies from the start. The problem is that both the shills and fudders prop up or down the positives and negatives, but the "damning issues" that the fudders spout are so fucking petty in the whole scheme of things that you come off as unbelievably disingenuous. There's not a single project or team out there that don't experience hiccups or problems at times, what matters if if they can get past those problems or not.

Do you think the fundamentals have changed to make the project a bad one since before the pump? Other than the fact that the price action completely has stirred up the feelings of everyone and their mother? Because I seriously haven't, despite all the "damning" non-issues being spouted in these threads every single fucking moment.

>>24150817
No one is further along without the use of gay wrapped assets

>>24150400
>we arent far off from a 100x
Checked for Freudian slippage

>>24150969
With other coins, you can have actual non-biased discussion regarding the coin, without discord trannies yelling "gay fudder CZ seethe!!" on every post. Fact that you consider the Raiden failure a "petty non-issue" is telling.

>>24152183
I’m wondering if it has slipped the timetable. If not it’s a positive in quick adaption to news. If so then we’ll it’s not ideal

I'm ALL in on XSN. I have 0% fear.

>>24152183
I mean, I can see where you're coming from. I completely agree that the team needs to get better at transparency in regards to these things. I'm sorry for calling you a gay CZ fudder every day, it's mostly in jest. But I really don't think a lot of the negative claims are non-biased either, which means they will get equally non-biased responses too from the people who know the potential of the project. It's disingenuous to blame everything on the shills and discord trannies as the fudders are fucking extreme and very often lying pieces of shit too. It's just the way it goes with coins that show a lot of promise at completely disrupting the financial world, I guess. Whether XSN will be one of those or not remains to be seen, but I still think this is one of the best shots.

>Fact that you consider the Raiden failure a "petty non-issue" is telling.
I consider it a petty non-issue in the whole scheme of things yeah. The team thought Raiden could work, turns out Raiden team works slow and their development didn't provide the best fit for X9, thus they choose to ditch that framework and opt for another one. I don't see how that's a bad thing at all, other than the fact that shills on /biz/ have shilled Raiden for months, propping up everyone's expectations, which is obvious that they would considering this is /biz/ of all places. I still agree that the team could've been more transparent about their thought process. What do you propose they should've done?

Does anyone knows which exchange ?

>>24152183
Also, >With other coins
Only the ones where not enough people are invested (both in fudding and shilling) to give a fuck. I'm sure you can have very "good and non-biased discussions" in the Blocknet threads for example. Pick any of the popular and actually promising projects and you'll see a ton of biased discussion there too, (link, eth, btc, xmr...). I don't agree that this is an issue that only plagues XSN, at all. Feelings run high because there are a lot of people who believe in the project, which is a good thing, especially in light of the relentless fudding that has been going on these past 5 months, and because the shills know that the fudders know that the project is good, they get angry. Though it's especially extreme for this coin I agree, it's a mother fucking battlefield.

If you're a shill your only truly good tool is to argue in good faith. If you're a fudder you can lie to your hearts content. It's really fucking exhausting to spend every day arguing against disingenuous (perhaps not you) people who don't care about whether what they say is true or not, because their only goal is to lower the price. It's much easier to ridicule those fudders and commit yourself to retarded exaggerated shilling instead as a counter to the endless lies being spouted on here about every single thing that happens. Your posts are not as non-biased as you purport them to be. From what I can see they are hostile and biased to an overly negative degree.

>>24153334
>Does anyone knows which exchange ?
I've lost all hope in terms of exchange listings after the Beaxy fiasco. They've made it pretty clear that they will not give coins / money for listings, so you get what you pay for.

>>24153415
>Your posts are not as non-biased as you purport them to be. From what I can see they are hostile and biased to an overly negative degree.
I don't see how any sane person could've held this for the past 12 months and maintained a "positive" attitude without being absolutely delusional. The community handling has been an absolute wreck this year.

>>24154118
The latest update talked about a listing with a big exchange

>>24154261
What about all the stuff about the project that are positive though? Because as far as I can see there are a ton of things going well this past half a year. Why should I choose to look at the negatives and completely disregard the positives? I agree that their community handling/pr/marketing skills are lackluster, but that doesn't mean I can't overall be positive about the project. I haven't held it for one year, but from the perspective of being a rather new investor (5 months ago) I'm still completely sold on their vision and where they want to take the project, even if I wish they could be a bit more transparent about their process. It's not such a deal-breaker for me, as it seems to be for you.

piece of shit wallet

>>24154261
There is no doubt the community handling as an absolute joke and they should publically apologise and then stab themselves.

However, progress has been there. And if they deliver on the listing - well then they are back to even in my books. Not GOOD at community handling but, back to 0.

See attachment r.e. listing

>>24154261
At this time last year, you had to deposit two coins and then open two channels to make trades and even then, the orderbooks were very new and didnt have a lot of liquidity.
They have done a lot since then in terms of making a LN DEX something usable, specifically with adding Bitcoin interop (originally it was only LTC/XSN), one-coin deposits, channel rentals, the process which automates all this down to 2 clicks (SSUI), and liquidity availability and stress testing.
All the hardest and most foundational parts are done and they've progessed nicely.

>>24155747
i agree there has been progress, i'm interested in dex launch tbqh. Eth integration is top of my list.

Any of you would like to give feedback for my anal elliot wave? I'm a newfag with this stuff. thank you anon

>>24156427
Wrong thread? If so you've come to the right place.

thats why im failing ffs. thx anon

>>24145048
Care listing some of the projects that will "btfo" Stakenet?

>>24156639
You should stay and learn about Stakenet, it's good. I assure you.

>>24156869
blocknet - the standard

>>24156934
okay this one was a joke.
dydx, thorchain, acdx we don't need xsn. And yes I realize they're not the same but your little niche usecase won't convince people to change from established dexes to this crap.

>>24156934
Oh God now those spastics are going to turn up.
>>24156960
It's not really a niche use case. Right now XSN is the furthest along developing a cross chain L2 DEX, and certainly will be the most decentralized given what others are currently developing.

>>24146460
Kek you bought the top didn't you.

>>24157032
>32 posts by this ID

>>24156934
y u do this

>>24157445
>Nooo op dont post in your own thread

>>24156960
>dydx, thorchain, acdx
Hahahaha is this a joke?

>>24156960
>established DEXs
The only one that even comes close to being established would be Uniswap, and XSN is the only competitor I see offering something considerably more advanced, usable, and convenient.

>>24157909
yep, L2 dex is got a great use case... and an empty market

>>24158542
Indeed, and betting on L2 is betting on the future of BTC, which at this point seems to be the ultimate make-or-break scenario for decentralized crypto.
LN's original implementation was a disaster and at one time BCH appeared to be a serious threat. The second BSV split off, that threat was over for good.
Since then, LN has improved dramatically and BCH/BSV have become practically irrelevant.

>>24158708
defi on the ground floor, love it

>>24157753
those are coins... with no hope

>>24158878
I don't see how all the ETH DeFi transpiring on L1 is any different from BCH or BSV in principle. They all offer marginal benefits over something well-established (BTC L1 or traditonal atomic swaps) without providing a solution effective enough to justify mass-adoption.
These solutions are the 14+++++ nm of scaling.

>>24159734
I wonder if xsn will have something like earning interest on Bitcoin.

>>24160042
Since xsn is a blockchain it's possible someone could build a DAPP that does that. When native eth/btc swaps are a thing i can see lot's of people developing stuff in the stakenet ecosystem.

>>24160042
>>24160087
The future will be an interesting place anon.

>>24160042
Well, you'll be able to stake XSN and receive your rewards in BTC

Very good coin sirs, please buy

>>24160525
Sure but that's not really earning interest on Bitcoin. That's just you're rewards getting swapped into btc no? I think there is a lot of potential for the stakenet blockchain. Btc maxis will especially love this.
>>24160538
>Ironic curry posting

>>24160607
Poster above I is an absolute retard. Wish he would fuck off

>>24160538
>Maybe if I curry post then people will think xsn is a scam

>>24146122
Except that you need to have a incentive model for people to run nodes, and put down collateral.
Explain how you would do this without a native token?

>>24161145
The person you were responding too was referred to the raiden token. Connext doesn't have a token.

>>24160042
>>24160087
Perhaps some conditional smart contract could be made wherein
>Bitcoin is swapped into XSN
>receives BTC via CCPoS
>swaps back into XSN if some manually set volatility quota is breached - i.e. XSN dips -2%,-5%,etc from the worth of the BTC, in the local currency of choice (USD, GBP, EUR, JPY, etc) when it was initially swapped
XSN does execute smart contracts and L2's instantaneous nature makes all this a feasibility
Once perfected on XSN it could be parlayed to any other LN/ERC PoS coin

>>24161369
>swaps back into BTC*

>>24161369
>>24161403
pretty fucking sweet, and actually achievable with LN idea

>>24161192
Ah, excuse my retard moment.

>>24161606
DW you're not the only one who responded to him misunderstanding what he meant.

>>24161587
Theorretically any PoW coin on L2 could be staked this way. BTC could be "staked" for a USD stablecoin via a contract like this

>>24161369
Pic related.

>>24162078
I think btc maxis will cum when they understand that BITCOIN DEFI will be possible.

>>24162140
kek
>>24162384
The key is making them see where XSN is actually coming from and getting it some validation. Otherwise they'll immediately associate it with shitcoins because it's not Bitcoin and seal their ears off.

>>24163151
Well if we can shill them on Bitcoin defi they might buckle. After all some of those maxis hold a lot and would like to make profit on holding btc.

>>24163376
Maxis sre very stubborn, most of them won't care until there is a product that you can shove in their face.

>>24163376
>>24163500
Ultimately if it helps BTC scale (and it does), I could see them getting on board like they did with LN because Bitcoin=good and therefore anything that helps Bitcoin=good, but they need to hear it from someone they trust.

>>24163878
Lol they'll have to wait until 'influencers' tell them what to do.

Bumping

>>24139622
months? they've done literally nothing for 3 years of development

>>24165145
>Its the no development fud
Kys retard. Looks at the OP.

>>24164207
Sad but true.
They go full s o y f a c e if someone on twitter plugs in a Casa node at their pizza shop and says something generic about "the future of money", yet snub XSN without even considering what it is because it hasn't been pre-approved by an "expert" (typically someone that bought the top in late 2013 and thinks theyre better than everyone else for it)

>>24165255
Checked. The time will come for xsn and so will i.

>>24165255
Checked.

Last bump from me.