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is NET overvalued right now? should i hold off on buying it?

A question, if you will, ol' chap.

http://www.strawpoll.me/35189716

Remember to only buy broad market index funds. 99% of professional investors fail to beat the market, what makes you think you can? Simply buy the entire market and live your life. Stop stock picking. Stock picking is literally gambling, and you don’t want to gamble. Buy the passive index fund.

>he buys for less than $500
How does it feel to see all your gains eaten up by fees?

>>24138143
Did you mean to make this post like 2 years ago?

>>24138140
Do we have any of those in yuropoor?
The four mentioned on investiopedia are all US.

>>24138140
No

>>24138140
Faggot detected

I'd rather have a chance at greatness than guaranteed mediocrity

Stock holding strength? Be honest.

http://www.strawpoll.me/35189826

>>24138140

this has historically been the best move but I don't think it will be the best move going forwards.
Looking at what I get if I buy a broad market index fund the top picks are
>Apple
too expensive
>MSFT
too expensive
>AMZN
possibly too expensive, we'll see
>P&G
decent
>VISA
too expensive
>NVDA
too expensive

and so on.

central banks have caused PE-inflation from hell, I seriously doubt Apple will deliver 8% yearly return from here, it needs a correction badly.

>buy big
>set limit
>sit back and relax
It may take months or years but that's how it's done.

Look
I'm not going to join the call for not picking stocks
but I'll say this:

VTSAX
STACK
IT
UP

>>24138140
I'm putting all my money in individual speculative stocks and you can't stop me.

>>24138321
But its so slow.

>>24138304
this

>>24138140

This is why I get >2000% annualized returns versus your 7%

green ID for PLTR poomp on monday

What are you buying now for cheap that will rocket once kyogre virus is over?

>>24138304
EVERY YEAR YOU SAY THIS and Every year youre WRONG

WRONG WRONG WRONG. YOU LOSE. LOSER
Fucking BEARS, Fuck you

>>24138173
iShares Core S&P 500 UCITS ETF USD (Acc
(SXR8)

>For based Danish large cap index dabbing on every other countrie's corona recovery
XACT OMXC25
(XACTC25)

>>24138429
>thinking power hungering authoritarians will let the virus be "over"

>>24138477
>Danish
>large cap
Denmark is smaller than most states in both landmass and population, what major companies could they possibly have?

>>24138502
Angry Birds

>>24138522
Was that danish?
Only thought we had hitman and hat kid.

>>24138502
A large portion of the worlds top players for video games and board games come from Norway, Denmark, and sweden. I think its safe to say its an area of concentrated genius, and they are getting slept on

>NASDAQ has been crabbing like crazy for weeks now.
Is a crash coming bros??
This many lockdowns, christmas being cancelled, QE not coming... i-I'm actually somewhat scared bros.

>>24138545
>what major companies do they have
>autistic chess and starcraft players
That's not what I asked

>>24138545
Mærsk, novo nordisk and novo zymes.
Lego as well.

>>24138564
the farms mother fucker, the farms

>>24138593
I live in Canada. I am unimpressed with your tiny Danish farmland.

>>24138304
This. Look at SPY, way to weighted on Apple. If the top holdings get taken down a notch by reality those etfs are gonna sink and stay down long term after all a heavy concentration on the best performers will also dump it hard when they fall and all the other holdings were low to begin with. Id rather take my chances with individual picks that have better odds of making me rich as Im more researched on them. Plus i want to retire young not old which i can just let the government handle rather than spend my time investing.

SPY at the bottom this year and using Friday's closing price has yielded approximately a 1.62x return

So many individual picks have yielded much more. Personal picks that have yielded a 3x, wish i went all in on these picks. Or meme stocks that have yielded 5x or greater. Nonetheless most of my picks have yielded better returns than SPY.

>>24138419
2nd chance rolling.

lol

>>24138564
they have saab (car and fighter jet maker)
sandvik coromant (probably biggest maker of carbide cutting tools on the planet, massive company)
volvo (were GOAT tier cars until sold to chinese consortium, not sure now)
and a range of other niche industrial companies that are reasonably important

also nokia, who made best phones for a long time

>>24138419
dubs and palantir limits down on monday

>>24138622
none of those are Denmark and I'm pretty sure China owns Volvo now

>>24138304
Literally forgot about GOOG just like everyone else kek

I think that’s the winner. Especially if government forces a YouTube IPO

>>24138600
I guess this is reasonable.
Your own ETF made up of some memes and some solid divvies with potential growth

>>24138140
Just buy GME and fuck of

Buying stocks during market hours or after hours?

>>24138694
Its GME over bro. Just sell already

>>24138712
During so you actually know the value.

>>24138092

Anybody else playing options on stocks with crypto exposure? RIOT and MARA IV is a bit too high for my tastes right now. Went into MSTR 240 1/15/21 calls.

>>24138140
Yes, it's easy.

I'll give you two picks right now. It'll beat 10% easy within 2 months.

BOIL
NIO (NIO day on January)

Missed movie night cuz I just made another girl crab

-scoopsies

If I think a stock is going to rise soon, should I just buy and hold or should I call it?

>>24138761
I would buy PUTS on MARA and RIOT rn.

Btc ran up considerably. All cryptos have run up with no catalysts.

All smells like a Pump n Dump. PUTS.

>>24138850
Ideally you would do a Covered Call to be safer, but yeah you can just buy a stock and wait for its value to go up.

Yo anons is PLTR gonna dump or will it continue to climb up in the foreseeable future?
>Poorfag with 50 shares hoping to escape his wagie life with these tickets.

>>24138092
Why would I ever buy stocks instead of options?

>>24138808
Do you think we will see sizeable NIO correction or the EV meme will keep on pumping?
I want to get in

What companies benefit the most from the cost to orbit being reduced to $10/kg?

>>24138890
>not a flip coin
>no tetha loss
>stocks eventually go back up even after plummeting

>>24138907
>>stocks eventually go back up even after plummeting
Unless you're JCP

>>24138919
Not sure what happen to JCP but If it bankrupt, you could have a 50% chance to get a warrant if it hits a strike price within a time limit.

Stocks is the only way to go for eventual success desu

>>24138907
>tetha

>>24138907
stock in individual companies can absolutely go to zero and never recover, even if the company survives – for example, GM shareholders in 2008 got wiped out

a self-refreshing index like the Shpee 500 doesn't have this problem though

>the farmville company
>forward p/e ratio is 30
Is this a good buy?

>buy stocks in CDPR
>cyberpunk 2077 comes out
>it's shit
>lose all my money

>>24139114
>not buy stocks in Tesla
>a week passes
>it grows
>i regret my decisions

>repeat every day for the past year

my NIO calls are gonna continue to print next week right?

>>24138140
You can do both wtf
A long term diversified global index fund to save for retirement and options/individual stock picks for short term gains

There will be a market correction next week.

DILUTE THE MARKET.

>>24139216
correction as in the line goes up more and faster right?

I think stocks are fun but I'm too paranoid and or jewish to actually buy any.

Why is the rona meme suddenly popping back up, shouldnt these past few months have shown that its just a meme and not worth the retarded lockdowns?

How the FUCK is KODK $7?
>>24139216
I'd agree but where would the money go?

>>24139235
Stocks only go up

>>24139235
Make a demo account and buy them with paper money.
Then you're just playing a game, and maybe if you see what results you can make for yourself you might put some real chips in.

I put all my money in SPY call spreads that expire monday either i double it or lose it all wish me luck bros

Why do you invest in dividend stocks?

Does anyone know much about euro stocks? How good is Worldline as a stock exactly?

>>24139216
No. This is clown market. There won't be a correction next week. When the correction comes you'll know it; you'll feel it coming days before it happens. Animals will flee their natural habitats, the earth will shake, the sea will turn red. I don't know when it will be. It could be early 2021, summer 2021, hell it could even happen in 2025.
But when it happens, it will fucking happen.

It won't be a bear market. They're gonna have to coin an entirely new word to describe the decimation.

>>24138092
is asana the next salesforce?

Defi is developing fast and I want to know do you use DYMMAX platform (dymmax.com)? Global blockchain project with modern staking system and top referral program

What is your advice/opinion about it?

>>24139378
My advice is KYS you faggot pajeet.

>>24139378
Fuck off cryptoshill

>>24139244
The countries didn't suicide their economies TWICE for nothing. You guys are dumb if you believe it's a meme. Enjoy the winter surprise

>>24138502
Vestas Wind Systems

>>24138902
EV is the future, not a meme. No correction, except one forced by Shitron, after a nearly 5000% bullrun is not enough to realise that big guys know that NIO is worth so much more?

>>24139312
Pics? Im curious and want to see how much you stand to gain.

>>24138907
Let's say I'd buy a knock-out (call) with a leverage of two or three and infinite life. That's still pretty safe, but more gainz than stocks. Am is too dumb? Please enlighten me.

>>24139424
ahh yes the second wave is just around the corner any time now

>>24138904
KUKA is not a German company, it's Chinese. Look at ABB.

>>24138140
This is a great idea if you're a boomer or older

>>24139378
This user appears to be an automated spambot

>>24138545
>'They play videogames autistically! They must make good companies too!'

>>24139476
The second wave has just started. It's funny to see how Americans are so unaware of the world. I guess +200.000 new confirmed cases per day is not enough for you to consider it a second wave. It will keep growing exponentially until you panic and do a lockdown

>>24139564
>Australia literally locks entire cities in their homes at gunpoint like fucking communist China
>from their confinement, they go and shitpost on the internet about how poorly America is handling the virus
Healthy people don't die from coronavirus.

whats happening with oil? any anons going for long positions on oil?

>>24139355
who the fuck let this fag on the board

>>24139355

NIO vs NIU?

>>24139731
*crack*
That pent up demand for oil will come. Natural gas can't compete with needing that good ol oil. look past share price and look at them divvies that will give you the BIG GREEN WADS
*sips*

>>24139679
As of May 1, 23,430 people are estimated to have died out of a total population of 8,398,748 in New York City. This corresponds to a 0.28% crude mortality rate to date, or 279 deaths per 100,000 population, or 1 death every 358 people. Note that the Crude Mortality Rate will continue to increase as more infections and deaths occur (see notes under the paragraph "Herd Immunity" below for details).

actual nothingburger

>>24139807
Luxury cars with incredible technology Vs cuck motorcycles

>>24139835
what do you invest in for bigly divvies?

>>24139127
Our time will come next year fren, prepare your Bobos

>>24139858
What's an actual realistic target price?

Right now, in this very thread, there are bears and, worse, people who do in fact respect women.

How can we get rid of all three?

>>24139863
See that ol' XOM. They took out some loans to keep them BIG GREEN WADS flowin'

>>24138305
>pick growth stocks
>buy with an effective leverage that allows for a sufficient loss (2.5x for instance to allow for a 20% nominal loss from peak)
>buy one more unit of a stock everytime you gain price of stock/2.5 to achieve double compounding while maintaining the target effective leberage (actually product leverage is more like 5x or more)
>if whole market hits a red patch short the market futures until the bottom is hit

>>24139679
>Healthy people don't die from coronavirus.
You're not healthy after getting coronavirus. 70% of "asymptomatics" have damaged organs.
You guys are so naive. That's the point of a virological attack, you make it seem not dangerous at all and it rapes your target in 5 years.
Btw the reason young people don't die it's just because hospitals haven't collapsed yet and receive treatments. Good luck trying to do the same with millions of active cases

>>24139891
For Nio, around 200$ in less than 5 years. If Tesla fails (and it will) Nio could achieve the same markeycap, which would mean a x7 in the price

>>24139897
>bears
>people who do not in fact respect women
>three?
behold the power of the brains of someone that respects women everybody

>>24139731
why yes, i own XOM

>>24139900
yeah i read about that here the other day.

>>24139946
Bears
People
Women

Why write much when less do trick?

>>24139355
I'm talking a small correction. Not the big one.

>>24139906
>whine for literally years that there's too much overpopulation, too many fat dumb people, we need a new plague, etc etc
>new plague comes
>not even an impressive plague, less lethal than Spanish flu
>WE GOTTA SAVE EVERY SINGLE GRANNY AND FAT DIABETIC KID CLOSE THE SCHOOLS CLOSE THE CHURCHES CLOSE IT ALL EVERY LIFE MATTERS

>>24139972
my brain am poopoopeepee

>>24139986
Preaching truth

>>24139986
>Only lethality matters
>Long-term effects don't matter
>The fact that your organs get damaged, making you part of the risk group the next time you get it it's not important
Ask me how I know you received american education

>>24139986
*crack*
Every one of me fellow boomers matters, boy. We defeated the communists. Show some respect sonny.
*sips*
That first sip is the purest I tell you wat

Does anyone ever short a stock when you could just buy a put?

>>24140042
show one (1) actual study showing serious long term side effects, and not a bunch of whining BPD roasties malingerers on Facebook with "long haul symptoms" that are indistinguishable from depression and fibromyalgia (which is what depression is called in fat women)

>>24139986
holy based

>>24140069
>Hayup nothing like cracking open a cold one while sitting comfy at home in the bunker while this whole chinese bioweapon incident blows over.
>sips

>>24140069
Whats the most boomer stocks out there?

>>24140108
total market index etfs, XOM for single pick

>>24140099
roasties and malingerers*
but I repeat myself, munchies and munchies-by-proxy are ALWAYS women

>>24140108
KO
XOM
BA
INTC
GE
GM
F
HOG
X

>>24138140
I am not in my late 30s

>>24138502
Never heard of Maersk? Biggest shipping company in the world?

>>24140069
wait a sec, a fat neckbeard sitting in his filthy room and shitposting on 4Chan defeated the Communists?

>>24140137
>>24140154
Im still a XOMbie but dumped my GE when it peaked at 10
We're all gonna make it bros

>>24140165
the Danish "bluechip" index is literally
>maersk
>local banks
>local utilities
>some biotech
>a drilling company that spun off maersk
so it's a worse, smaller Canada with more boats

>>24139731
Long on ixc. Thinking about trying to find a better ETF to double down on. Trying to avoid the American market as most are overvalued and when the over valued stocks correct it still seems to effect the others... could be wrong on avoiding American stocks ATM but definitely right on energy sector. I was debating a more oil heavy ETF or something

why arent you buying xiaomi? the pump on tuesday is basically guaranteed

>>24140099
every serious illness has long term effects you moron, it is the same shit if you have a serious flu, lung inflammation etc.

The difference is that the average pleb doesn´t get the information about this stuff. If they reported every side effect and the risks of the flu for months, people would react differently.

>>24140218
hate chinks
hate chink stonks
simple as

>>24139355
Truth.

>>24140221
>every serious illness has long term effects you moron, it is the same shit if you have a serious flu
so what you're saying is... covid19 is like the flu? that really activates my almonds anon

>>24140218
Don't touch Chinese exchanges

>>24139807
RIDE its the only car company that doesn't have these faggotry attached to it. The cyber truck and the hummer looks like the shit the owners sun drives to the work site on a Friday to tell everyone he's going up to the lake home to fuck 30 year old washed up girls. Meanwhile People who drive lordstowns actually make more money and fuck hotter women. They just don't drive some faggy cuck truck. Fuel cells are cool tho.

You guys bought CLF yet? Missing out on major gains.

>>24140099
I’m not the same guy, and I cba to look up sources for you, but you’re definitely wrong mate, go look up the studies on long COVID yourself and stop using 4chan as your news source

>>24140221
>asked for a source
>can't provide one
Serious illnesses have long term effects. In the overwhelmingly vast majority of the population, coronavirus is not a serious illness. Show one (1) study backing up your claims. You haven't and you won't.

>>24138502
Novo is the 48th largest company in the world in terms of market cap: https://www.pwc.es/es/auditoria/assets/global-top-100-companies-2020.pdf

>>24140257
Truth. Most chinease shit, even stocks, is entirely made up. Literally this is no secret. Don't touch chinease shit. Its like fucking an expensive street whore. You might like it. You might get aids.

>>24140256
I am saying that you shouldn´t be scared about long term effects. This shit is the least problem you will have. Yes it might take you a long time to recover, but you probably will. Also the chance that you will have serious long term effects is very low.

>>24140291
I bought some calls for January that are finally in the positive after this last week, will probably sell sometime in the next few weeks

>>24140302
It depends on the individual. What do you count as long term effects? Some people are tired all the time, others don´t even see it as a problem etc. etc.

Some people invent/imagine long term effects. "Hey I got Covid, yeah if I think about it I am getting out of breath very easily." (Didn´t do sports for months or had proper movement)

People make it worse than it is.

>>24138419
Rolling

>>24140382
>Some people invent/imagine long term effects. "Hey I got Covid, yeah if I think about it I am getting out of breath very easily." (Didn´t do sports for months or had proper movement)
Honestly if I got it I would probably end up falling in that category because I was a lazy ass for most of my life and barely ever went outside. Now a days I try to at least walk for an hour or so everyday but if I actually got covid I would probably start getting paranoid about every little shortness of breath while doing something, thinking that it's the 'rona when in reality it's just that I'm an out of shape piece of shit

>>24139731
>whats happening with oil? any anons going for long positions on oil?

oil is bearish long term imo but some of the big oil companies such as BP are going into renewable energy, which is bullish. so i'm accumulating BP because the resources of huge oil company behind a renewable push is an investable prospect. XOM is staying with oil and will probably keep climbing in the short/medium term but the world is changing quickly and therefore i won't invest anything in XOM

Coming back to the index fund discussion. I have a Total world index fund where most of my money is in at the moment. Should I sell and start trading myself again? My returns were better but I stopped because I was putting too much energy in it I guess. Or do I make a combination of both ?

>>24138140
My stock market index is the same as it was in 2007. Meanwhile my personal portfolio is up 15% this year

>>24140440
I just broke even on my XOM and RDSb and I can't decide if I should sell them or not. It's killing me I have almost 20% of my portfolio tied up in it

RKT bros, did we get too cocky? will we go sub 20 AGAIN?

>>24140462
I think you can only ask that question for yourself, you started investing in an index fund for a reason. I think a total world index fund is fine, because you are globally diversified and the world stock market is just a little bit overvalued (I think it is something like 10-20%).

What do you nerds think of Esker? FR0000035818

>>24138267
Coca Cola is able to adapt.

>>24140489
it's a tough call to time it. you don't know when the next news about increased oil supply, or another breakthrough in green tech will happen. at the same time, if you think there will be another war soon (many seem to think we're due a war), that will lift oil and if it's middle-eastern then it will constrain supply and lift oil further

>>24140382
>some people are tired all the time
Those same people (almost entirely women, most of them fat, all of them depressed, bipolar or BPD) would complain about "being tired all the time" and vague "non-distinct pain" regardless of coronavirus. They call it fibromyalgia. Now it's "long coof". Same shit. Women whining.

Any signs/predictions of legacy car manufacturers jumping in on the EV meme?
GM announced and their shit saw a sizeable boost.

>>24140489
Oil stocks like that are probably due for more of a recovery on vaccine euphoria and a general shift into cyclicals. Probably not a good long term hold.
I expect oil stocks to rally once the vaccine starts being rolled out and plan on dumping early next year.

>>24140646
>niggers and women talking about stocks
Yep we've reached the top.

>>24140686
Golden post

>>24140686
This is just average GME bagholder, PLTR chads are safe.

>>24138419

rolling for dump

>>24140663
Yeah I wasn't planning on sitting in oil long term this was more of a Corona recovery play.

>>24140646
:O

Does the future look grim for BMW stock?

>>24140785
Yeah, same for me. I'm just wondering how much catch up is left to be done. I think if there is one more big rally it'll be on the back of FDA approval for the vaccines and the actual rollout starting.

>>24140797
kraut here, german car manufacturers are fucked the next 5-10 years

>normies haven't yet found out about Corsair
we're safe for now CRSR m80s

>>24140797
german here, never ever buy german stocks other than SAP

>>24140844
What about BASF or TUI now?

>>24140836
im already 90% in the plus with CRSR

Have you received your freedom pass yet?

>>24140756
>GME
>bagholder
You'd have to have a fucking high cost average and not have bought the dip at all to still be bagholding.

>>24140854
>TUI
is fucked for the next 1-3 years depending how long the pandemic last and its economic impacts on the population.

>BASF
boomer stock with no growth


Dont invest in german stocks, thats coming from a german.

>>24140844
SAP fucked alot of people over in the last month, I would say dont invest in any german stock

>>24140869
Oi!!! You got a loicense for dat freedom!

>>24138881
It's a long term hold, anon. don't be a swing trading retard

>>24140785
we are only like 20% off of All time low. How much higher til you are considering getting out?

>>24140836
i pulled my cash from CRSR and put it in PLTR about a month ago.. Can't complain.

>>24140869
at least you just have to get tested and not take a bullshit vaccine
still pretty clown world though

I'm in IT, my living depends on Microsoft. I might as well buy Microsoft stonks, no? Should I invest 300.-€ in Microsoft every month instead of Coca Cola?

>>24141028
if you are this new to investing just buy an index fund

>>24141028
A very obvious yes considering KO is a dividend stock and dividends are a meme.

>>24141056
I have the ETF LYX0GP. But I think Apple is a meme. Microsoft won't be stopped in companies, the average Joe is too stupid for Linux. So I might as well invest directly in Microsoft instead of the Technology ETF.

>>24140797
another german here, never ever buy german stocks in general

>>24138881
50 shares not enough to make it. Buy more while you can.

>>24140686
>I just did some research
so I just sell whatever normalfags are talking about on twitter etc? easy enough

>>24141028
if your living already depends on MSFT why not hedge with something else?

>>24141184
>>24140912
>>24140844

never listen to Germans when it comes to investing, they have no clue

most German investors will unironically tell you that Tesla is the future of car manufacturing and Teslas valuation is absolutely reasonable

>>24141028
just buy GME and PLTR bro

>>24141004
fair enough because PLTR grew a bit more over the month, but PLTR is kind of crabbing now whereas CRSR reaches new highs every day. I'd switch back or at least put half back in CRSR.

>>24141276
So? You think Chinese cars are the future instead of Tesla?

>>24141028
a colony of gulls
a murder of crows
a parliament of owls

>>24141276
german here

invest 100% in china now

>>24139564
>200 000 cases
>of cough
Shut. Down. Everything.

>>24141310
how about neither

>>24141319
France cars?

>>24141276
exactly,
if german investors are clueless imagine what a shitshow must be going on in german companies

>>24141276
I dont get how can you be this wrong

germans are conservative about cars and they literally think Tesla is a poorly built toaster that will explode and burn them alove

regarding your other statement
>dude 80mil people have to clue xDDD

>>24141310
Tesla is like icarus launching that probe to the sun

name one (1) war Germany won as a united German state

you can't because there isn't any, Germany is younger than Canada and even less competent

>>24141411
true

>>24141276
>france builds the european union as a chastity cage around germany's cock
>germany uses the power of INVESTMENT to secure new allies as the union expands
>now rivals france and is about to take over thanks to its influence in the eastern part of the union

German investing literally writing history.

>>24141380
Well germans were right about one thing then. Tesla is the biggest american scam since enron.

>>24140869
>it's real

>>24141276
>Teslas valuation is absolutely reasonable
Is there a bigger meme than >muh reasonable valuation? Seems to me like it's a piss-poor predictor of price movement, by that logic INTC should take off any second now while every other """overvalued""" stock should crash (and you have "professional analysts" actually writing that). Sentiment seems to be a much better predictor of price direction.

>>24138140
this if you already rich otherwise don't bother
>>24138357
>that pic
kek
>>24139462
enough with the EV meme, it's a bubble, stop shilling it like buying EV stocks is like investing. It's speculation, pure and simple. TSLA has a P/E of 500, NKLA hasn't sold a single truck. NIO has a MC greater than Volkswagen. I mean c'mon guys.

is anyone familiar with Enphase Energy?
just found out about them and im thinking about buying them to be part of the climb in the comming years

>>24141380
I am talking about German investors, most of the Germans who don´t like Tesla don´t even own stocks.

Tesla is a poorly built toaster that will burn you.. Problem is that the American agencies don´t give a shit about safety. It is the same shit that happened with Boeing. They released the Tesla self driving and this shit will steer your car into a wall or the other side of the road. Even the chinks forced Tesla to return over 100.000 cars because of security reasons..

>>24141411
>>24141413
Wars that Germany has won:
>Boxer war against China (Wikipedia falsely calls it a riot)
>Herero and Namaqua wars against Southwest Africa (Wikipedia falsely calls it a genocide)
>Maji Maji war in East Africa (Wikipedia falsely calls it a riot)
Don't listen to anti-German Wikipedia articles. Those are three wars Germany has won as a united nation. Gott mit uns!

>>24141488
>digits

>>24141488
holy mother of digits

>>24141463
you compare apples with oranges. Intel is undervalued because of the assets they currently own and the income they earn with these assets.

Tesla is overvalued, because people expect them to overtake the whole car manufacturing, solar energy and autonomous self driving market at the same time

>>24141488
Too bad they lost the one that mattered most. Now the whole occiden is a jewish dystopia. I blame murricans, but still.

>>24141488
>1488
N-no, I didn't mean to do this! I wanted 1871, not 1488. Germania is for Germans, not for "whites" or "aryans" or other stupid shit.
Nazis fuck off, Germany doesn't need your kind. MODS CHANGE MY DIGITS RIGHT NOW OR I CALL THE POLICE.

>>24141544
People buy TSLA because line goes up and they're hyped about the products, not because they expect earnings to magically catch up with valuation. It being overvalued is not relevant, only a change in sentiment will bring that line down.

>AstraZeneca ticker is AZN
BALLS DEEP IN AZN BROS

>>24141488
>we only won a rebellion against chinkoid peasants and massacred a bunch of spear-chuckers
>unironically proud of those """achievements"""
oh no...

>>24141569
too late, I reported you and called to polizei on your ass

since there are so many german anons in here, where do you guys trade options?

>>24141610
These aren't rebellions, they are wars. Just because we are so good at war we made them look like worker strikes, doesn't mean they weren't actual wars against actual nations. Germany has won wars as a united country. Stay mad.

>>24141561
How is it out fault. We only came into the war in the very end and claimed we were the reason germany lost as we tend to do. You should really be angry at bongs and soviets. I blame you fucking germans for being greedy and trying to take over the entire world rather than focusing on the biggest problem in the world, Jews.

>>24141610
you fought a war that freed the niggers, who really lost

>>24141028
TIL seagulls are literally dindos

>>24141658
I'm not an Amerimutt, these are Yuro hours

>>24141633
Trading options is degenerate gambling, I just buy and hold. Prices are too random short to mid term, so don't bother.

>>24141488

MEIN FÜHRER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>24141588
i want to FUCK that slut

does that mean i should buy AZN then i guess.

>>24141633
checked. not german but fellow Yuro: I use Degiro

>>24141633
Interactive brokers, Banx Broker or Lynx Broker

>>24141652
>just be mad at the russians for not bending over and dying
How about "just be mad at the germans for allowing nazis to take over their state and force us to commit national and diplomatic suicide"? Fuck I hate nazis so much. Germany went from economic, philosophical, diplomatic, everything powerhouse, country of the future, to the kind of caricature that frogs used to draw of Prussia, an army with a territory, no nation, no culture. And then they didn't even win the war. FUCK, I HATE NAZIS.

>>24140869
>>24140947
literally a loicense for freedom
Gott strafe England

>>24141633
trade republic?

>>24141671
need to do more research, thought about covered calls & the wheel on PLTR

>>24141701
>>24141706
grazie

>>24141715
> colonize the entire world
> conquer and enslave entire nations and people
> no Germany you can´t do the same
> fight world war 1
> blame Germans for everything, take the land and force them to pay everything
> wonder why they elect a dictator that wants to conquer the world

>>24141715
Well don't be a faggot about it. Remember one of the Nazis goals was to exterminate the Jews. Had they been able to do that we would literally have world peace. Unfortunately they weren't able to achieve this goal. But had germans stopped being greedy and just stopped at taking over mainland europe they probably would have been left alone.

>>24141569
>N-no, I didn't mean to do this! I wanted 1871, not 1488
Its inevitable at this point

>>24138262
OK
MAXIMUS

why the fuck is "nio stocks" trending on youtube?

>>24141761
Well they didn't exactly elect hitler, he kind of just took power. I mean look at his first attempt. He tried to overthrow the government and they gave him like 4 years in prison kek. Europeans are weird about their prison system.

>>24141808
cause the meme is that big at this point. Analysists coming and putting a new price target at 56-60 on Nio will pump it even further

>>24141808
Because the whole stock is driven by smart money shorting a shit company, and then dumb money squeezing them based on pure hype alone. This pushes the price, so more reasonable people short, but also more retard hype pushes it even more, squeezing more. Its an IQ shredder stock.

>>24141808
It's a very obvious sign to get out

>>24141834
>shorting
shorting makes prices rise? Why would you hold a short position when the price rises this much? Are you using the word "short" in a different way than everybody else?

>>24141868
I don't know any terms, I'm basically thinking in terms of short (people who bet on the price going down) and long (people who bet on the price going up). And when the "shorts" have to cover because of hype retards pushing the price up, this further pushes the price up.

>>24141834
Didnt ARK enter Nio at 30s?

PLTR to 40!. It's taking its time but that's ok. Gives you a chance to buy more before the epic launch takes effect.

>>24141896
Thats retarded. Short is short selling and long for holding for a extended preiods of time 6-12 months+

>>24141896
Ok, I just don't see why "smart money" would short a stock pumping this high. They'd be in the red big time with no reason to believe they'd ever break even. I don't think anyone has done this.

>>24141913
you have a short position on pltr don't you

>>24141915
what do you mean by short selling?

>>24141953
Huh?
>borrow shares
>hope line goes down
>sell and then buy them back at lower price
>pocket difference

>>24142042
so:
>short (people who bet on the price going down)
>long (people who bet on the price going up)

>>24142042
Ok, but a long position is the opposite of a short position, there's no question of holding it for a minimum period of time, you can long a stock for one week.

Why are you arguing over short semantics? Everyone knows that bears never get to cum.

Thoughts on selling some AAPL for SQ?

>>24138140
>He doesn't know about liquidity risk and accumulation
I'm not going to try to teach you anything, but i will give you something to think about -
Go to your favorite charting site or broker and load up a monthly chart of SPY or SPX or AAPL or whatever big stock or index you like. Make sure to load up the volume along with it. Squeeze the chart as much as you can and tell me - what pattern is easily recognizable upon looking at the volume through the years?
Now, try to think, where are we going forward from here?
Another point to think about - if everybody knows that investing in safe blue chip stocks and the big indexes is "better" than trying to beat the market, what will happen going forward?
Hint - when a crew is on a boat and everybody yells "all to the right side", what happens to the boat?

>>24142112
based
Stocks only go up

How much PLTR to make it? Currently got 45 at 14. Few more on the sideline for more and ABNB

>>24142185
Firstly you need to define "making it"

>>24141652
You've got a point with soviets but the only thing bongs were good at is bombing civilians. Their war effort was piss poor, that's why the kikes had to call the murricans in.
And it doesn't matter how late you entered the war, think about the reasons you did. Why?

Guys what do you think I should get for lunch? I've narrowed it down to taco bell or jimmy johns. I can't decide between the two so I figured I'd let some strangers with autism decide for me.

>>24142112
Because I was trying to understand why >>24141834 thinks NIO is going up due to "smart money shorting it", which still doesn't make sense.

>>24141715
Are you genuine? All you hate hate about nazis is entirely made of lies. How retarded can you be?
Actually educate yourself instead of getting you infos from the people that makes you pass gender studies.

>>24142230
Buy some norwegian salmon, cook it in a pan then squeeze a couple of lemons on it.

>>24142213
500000/750000

>>24142216
Because FDR was a faggot that put us into a war that the American people loudly were against entering.

MNKD

>>24142267
I don't want to cook until dinner. It's the Jewish day of rest so I want some else to cook for me, at least for lunch. I'm making goulash for dinner.

>>24142272
2500 min, expecting the share to be 200 bucks in two years.

>>24142275
>put us into a war that the American people loudly were against entering
>I don't want to send my son die for shlomo, but I will!
USA in a nutshell

>>24142272
you will need a lot more than 45 shares famalam. i would advise going higher than 20% on any single stock in your portfolio btw. you should be as concerned with losing it as you are about making it. i think PLTR will gradually keep going up though so go ahead and accumulate more. it's likely PLTR will dip in febrary as the IPO lock in ends and some insiders sell. but it could dip from a much higher price to a price still higher than today, so there is risk in waiting

I have 2.000 bucks to sink, Ive narrowed my decision to: SBE, WKHS, NIO, PLUG, CIIG.
Any insight?

>>24142346
advise AGAINST going higher fml

Guys if I do sell my oil stock soon what should I rotate into?

>>24142335
It's important to note that the draft was used in ww2, so if you were between the ages of 21 and 45 you were registered and could be forced to fight for the Jews or go to prison. I fucking hate Jews for this very reason

>>24142398
>I fucking hate Jews
>>24142285
>It's the Jewish day of rest so I want some else to cook for me
the duality of man

>>24142392
Here are my current holdings.

>>24138943
Do you have any bankruptcy/reorg experience?

Please let me know where the 50% likelihood of some warrant coverage stat is coming from. From experience, assuming you get any, you’re generally taking such a sizable haircut that even if able to exercise, it’s a long road to substantive gains. You’re time and capital are likely better spent elsewhere.

>>24142355
Nio.

>>24142422
>spread between 12 picks
you better have 6 figures or you're just shooting yourself in the foot with your diversifying

considering you're in /smg/, i bet you're babysitting your profile anyways so there's no reason to be diversified that much

>>24142450
portfolio is curently 175k

>>24139465
Are you trolling? Knock-outs don’t have an infinite life. Their expiration is just tied to the underlying asset’s price instead of time.

>>24142473
that's fair

i've seen dumbasses here diversify into that many picks when they only had 4 figures

>>24142392
like as a long term thing? banks, defence, renewable energy utilities, look good to me

>>24141834
Tesla is losing all its market share in Europe and China, while NIO is growing fast and already has 30% of Tesla market share in China, plus it's expanding to Europe next year, where competition is struggling hard.
NIO will absolutely rape Tesla and the competitors, and whoever doesn't realise it, hasn't done any DD about NIO.

>>24142492
I have 3 positions with 50k
should I add more?

>>24140083
Yes

>>24142496
*blocks your path*

>>24142496
This battery as a service that NIO does....it will catapult them to #1 EV maker.

NO ONE WANTS TO WAIT 30 FUCKING MINUTES FOR A CHARGE.

Swap batteries for NIO vehicles can be done in less than 90 seconds...Brilliant

>>24142492
suggestions on what to buy if i sell my oil?

>>24142549
i always loose my sides when i see a SOLO car.
ffs

>>24142536
depends on what those picks are, i have a buddy who is low 6 figures and he stopped falling for the diversifying meme and just shuffled his entire portfolio into only AMD and TSM from January this year. I think he had around 25K into TSM right now and at least 100K into AMD

I'm still 5 figures so I only focus on 1-2 positions too, though maybe it doesn't count when that 2nd pick is sometimes just QQQ (when i lack confidence on anything else outperforming it)

>>24142346
Willing to put another £2000 I to it which will be roughly 20% looking at possible good growth stock like BGS and WPC for the divis too. Waiting on ABNB

>>24142613
i dunno man, i'm poorer than you, don't take advice from me lel
My buddy that I leech DD from has around the same portfolio size as you and is 100% into semiconductors though, just don't buy INTC. NVDA is questionable too with how highly valued it already is (like 25x of revenues compared to ~10x on TSM and AMD)

>>24142230
Both you glutinous Faggot.

>>24141544
You're talking as if the stock market moves with rationality.

Intel is still a strong company. But the market looks forward. AMD looks more promising.

Intel is the new IBM with nowhere to go. They need radical changes. 180 degrees the other way.

>>24142549
*A gentle breeze sends the Solo car flying*

>>24134130
what logic is that, SpaceX started out small too.
of course Rocket Lab is a competitor.

>>24142599
kek when we were talking about EVs my father made fun of Tesla saying they were retarded for not simply swapping batteries instead of charging them for an hour. He arrived there independently which means Nio understand what the common customer wants

>>24142642
mostly BABA

>>24141479
Enphas has a monopoly on micro-inverter for solar panels. Therefore they'll always be a step ahead.

>>24142677
>Both you glutinous Faggot.
Actually a pretty good idea thanks

>>24142613
small cap value

>>24138092
>Cinnamon Roll

Typical american shit pastry.

Sugar on bread is not a fucking flavor.

>>24142716
they originated in europe

>>24142716
Don't get your panties in a bunch yuropoor.

>>24142707
ticker VBR?

What type of yearly return is that?

>>24142693
I work the common man job. Quintessential normie. I'll never buy a Tesla. I'm not going to "supercharge" my vehicle for 30 minutes on long trips. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Your father made sense. Smart one.

>>24142704
Try Del Taco As well.

Is it a good time to buy NVDA and HD? Help frens i want to yolo in them before xmas rally.

>>24142599
Exactly. Waiting 30 minutes for a charge is fucking annoying, and that's if you're lucky and there aren't 10 cars more waiting for a charge.

Tesla tried the battery swap years ago and failed to implement it.

Also, you can't even compare NIO service to the others. NIO Houses etc...

NIO is the only brand that truly innovates, and their quality is insane. More than 40% of their sales are from referrals, because people see their friends NIO and instantly want one.

>>24142751
I live in the Midwest, we don't have those sadly :(

>>24142450
>>24142492
since when is playing it safe bad?

>>24142642
If you're on margin diversifying with usually poorly correlated instruments can help you lower your downside by having price variations cancel each other according to the square root of the sums of each instrument's weighted variations, which can help you avoid margin calls when using high (>3x) leveraging.

>>24142697
well the cucknada pension fund has BABA as its highest holding so im sure it's safe at least

Tesla will implode in less than 5 years. Elon Musk is an incompetent CEO who thinks that building more factories = more sales with exponential growth. Truth is the Chinese factory is also doing European Teslas because they are wasting resources on China due to low demand.

>>24142783
it's never bad, but you have to consider who you're talking to here. half of /smg/ is disabled neets with extremely limited income, so if they want any chance of making it, they have to take on a lot of risk

>>24142755
>NVDA
no
>HD
no

try CRSR, the gamer stock

>>24142422
Finally someone with aviation in their portfolio. Based

Somebody please bake, I don't have it in me today.

>>24142848
been holding them since april.

>>24142889
I gotchu fren

will BABA boom next week?
i sure hope so

what are some penny stocks people are looking at

>>24142777
How about trying a Beyond Meat Pizza from Pizza Hut?

Watch Devilman Crybaby, for a good night.

>>24142764
It'll explain why hedge funds, big ass pensions are pouring money into the stock. As days approach Nio day, it's going to go up rapidly.

FRESH
>>24142944
>>24142944
>>24142944
FRESH
>>24142944
>>24142944
>>24142944
FRESH
>>24142944
>>24142944
>>24142944

>>24142938
I have eyes on Hut 8 crypto mining.

Crypto mining will fly soon. I assure you.

>>24142783
Ask Trump.

Very upset that Trump didn't release some mind boggling good news the days before election. Disappointed in him.

>>24142980
the democrats held back the good news about a possible corona vaccine until just after the election, very convenient.

>>24142783
>>24142786
if I was just putting my shit into SPY, i would still only be 4 figures after 2 years
like what the fuck, only +15% after 2 years?

I'm actually back in school since Sept 2018 (so my performance stagnated there when I liquidated most of my TFSA into cash just to be safe), if i wasn't a pussy back then I would have enough to pay off overpriced pharmacy school before I graduated

>>24138140
>99% of professional investors fail to beat the market,
>t. didn't read Peter Lynch's Beating the Street.

>>24143064
yes but those are safe 15%

Where can I buy options using margin? I'm just a wage slave trying to get rich.

>>24142938
MindMed
Urban Tea

>>24143287
bank loan