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first for anime waifu silver

my wife left me

>>24104803
she looks pretty young anon...

>>24104765
Don't be like the guy in pic related /pmg/.

>>24104834
I'm not buying at the top, but he brings up a valid point

>>24104850

He also used to troll the Silver Spruce chat

>>24104835
20 year old character anon... being short =/= being young

3 DOLLARS UP, 3 DOLLARS DOWN!

HI HO SILVER!

>>24104834
>>24024417

BUY GOLD OR DIE POOR

>>24104884
ok well she looks older there...

>>24104903
underrated

What is this? Anyone?

>Ah, its a bear market anon.

Anon thinks this is a bear market. That is incorrect anon, your 4chan pass is revoked. This is a bear trap.

>>24104971
can't wait to post a modernized version of pic related for doubters

>>24104971
I hope this is bait
I'm pro-crypto but buddy this isn't the first sell-off, look at the charts
We're at greed since we've already got media attention and enthusiasm

>>24104765
seethe

Imagine /pmg/ in 1636.

>>24105045
Kek, they must've had great laughs.

>>24105045
NEW PARADIGM
FOREVER GROWTH
LITERALLY WILL NEVER COME BACK DOWN
THIS IS ORGANIC
NO BEARS EVER AGAIN

>>24105045
must have been tuesday

>>24104884
fresh oc here

>>24105041
I
Am
Financially
Ruined

I think the market if not Monday, then sometime next week is fucked bois
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ca.finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/federal-reserve-treasury-at-odds-over-letting-emergency-lending-programs-expire-222946692.html

Hypothetically gold would sell off like everything else in such a case, except on second legs down, it doesn't usually do too poorly going forward:
https://goldsilver.com/blog/how-would-gold-perform-in-a-second-stock-market-crash

I'm holding. Gold will have to dip down to $1600 before I'm in the black, when all it takes is for the Fed to step in with more QE, and everybody's fears will be confirmed, and gold shoots up to a all time high in a matter of days.

>>24104850

holy kek. This guy probly invested 5 figures ATH and he's never going to get his money back.

>>24104765
buy more Barrick's, or look into mining juniors???

>>24105078
beautiful post
>>24105149
From the messages I deduce he sold ATL and the the stock immediately pumped almost 50% lmfao
>>24105162
Barrick is all nice and all but if you know your stuff you can make big money with juniors provided you're able to hold for long periods of time and withstand risk. In any case many gold companies are just oversold now.

>>24105018
Im referring to the price of precious metals, im not sure what you're referring to

>>24105226
Yeah I had a retard moment, please ignore that post

>>24105162
juniors are massive risk / reward so only go into them if you know what your doing.

>>24105002
What’s with all the stock shills in pmg

>>24105513
Stocks are more active than metal; makes sense

>>24105513
If you want to preserve and increase your purchasing power, stick to physical.

If you want to see life changing increases in your purchasing power, you need to be invested in good small cap miners before the bull run. The potential returns on commodities equities during bull runs are higher than anything i've seen in any other asset class.

>>24105513
Didn't mean to single out First Majestic, just meant that that's what's going to happen to miners in general

>>24105625
Higher returns then crypto?

>>24105856
Probably more consistent returns over a long time frame, but crypto is unique in the sense that it 3x's every 2 years or so

I want to flex with a silver coffee mug, where should I get one? Don't give a shit about it being antique, just want a silver mug.

>>24106083
https://www.etsy.com/listing/651655783/1848-british-john-evans-2nd-sterling?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_ts1-a-accessories-other&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMIpffIiIST7QIVD4eGCh2S0QowEAQYBiABEgI6ivD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_918918874_45606398283_218492047822_aud-360480980339:pla-295577704042_m__651655783_10720758&utm_custom2=918918874&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpffIiIST7QIVD4eGCh2S0QowEAQYBiABEgI6ivD_BwE

>>24105856
crypto is unique as an asset class because its so new, so theres so many unknown elements and little history to go off. The previous bull market yielded insane returns, some of which i managed to catch. we all know almost every single crypto that exists today is literally useless vapourware, but we have very little way of knowing if we can still see another baseless hyperbull market like we saw in 16'-17'. I think this bull market that crypto is in now will be a lot more specific. the Defi hype has died down and economically shit is getting tighter in the pockets. Legitimate projects like chainlink can continue to do very well. I would be very selective about what/if any crypto's you buy.

I really like XSN. dont want to shill it, but i wrote this incase anyone is interested in having a small crypto hedge https://pastebin.com/jiMdEAN8.. If it works out than It would definitely see enormous returns.

to answer your question directly, i dont know. If we are talking broad terms over a long time period i would definitely say that silver equities would do tremendously better than most altcoins, as most of them are going to 0.

Why do most people still believe the economy is strong? Central banks couldn't even prop up the usual suspects this time, housing and most stocks are flat, only tech is really pumping. Obviously we're fucked by any other metric like unemployment.

>>24106135
>Don't give a shit about it being antique
Yeah I really don't want to pay over 5x face value for that, I just wanted something plain but silver.

>>24106210
We could fix that all if we just open back up with no restrictions.

>>24106210
>Why do most people still believe the economy is strong?

95%+ of people have no understanding of basic economics

>>24106213
I know there are simpler sterling mugs out there, my Grandma has one from the 1920s that looks like an ordinary mug, just made of sterling.

>>24106174
Good post I’ll check it out

>>24104817
Hope she doesn't know about your stack otherwise you are fucked mate.

>>24106266
This is probably the best book on economics isn’t it?

>>24105162
Barrick is obviously a solid company which is currently oversold due to the long consolidation in gold and the fact that Buffet sold 40% of his barrick position and NPCs are following him in this trade. Based on memeline analysis I think the barrick bottom is around 23-24 USD and it will bounce hard upward when the correction in gold ends. In conclusion at these prices the upward potential heavily outscales downward risk in my opinion.

>>24106266
Reminder that Hazlitt was a journalist, not an economist, and his economics "lesson" consisted of >gobmint bad and this book should be trashed

>>24106760
>his economics "lesson" consisted of >gobmint bad and this book should be trashed
Why the fuck are you here then? Big brother doesn't want you to have metals, he doesn't want you to have savings at all.

>>24106760

>>24106760
>Reminder that Hazlitt was a journalist, not an economist, and his economics "lesson" consisted of >gobmint bad and this book should be trashed

>>24106831
I'm not pro big brother but Hazlitt was literally a crater brain

>>24106844
>>24106911
keep posting boomers

>>24106980
not an argument

>>24106980
Refute him then, or fuck off

>>24106995
I'm not arguing with you bucko, I'm calling your book choices shit.

>>24104834
i hope you still have money to buy tendies after buying a can of spray paint.

>>24104971
this chart is crap. not every asset follows that curve. you are right about the fact that silver and gold will moon. because they'll 1) keep going up with inflation and 2) stocks and bonds all the phoney asset classes are in a bubble that is going to pop.

>>24105110
post moar

>>24107177
Checked.

I'm going to do some Crown posting. Two English, one South Afrika.

>>24107860
Some more pictures of them, stood up this time

The Horsemen are coming.

>>24107884
Mainly just having fun with new camera if I'm honest. King side now.

>>24107860
>>24107884
Nice, what are the premiums like on the British Crowns?

>>24104765
How do I earn interest on gold?

>>24107903
Just the English ones next, South Afrika on top of the lens.

>>24107932
Bringing up the edges lastly of all with this photo.

>>24107921
Belangp explained that there's a way to do so through the LBMA, but that's only if you have a lot of Good Delivery Bars.

>>24107910
Can be very stupid indeed. I got lucky snapping these up, half crowns usually sell at a lower premium. These fuckers are collectible and people pay stupid prices often.

>>24107988
Checked.
I guess I'll have to be vigilant for good deals like with the rest of my 50% Silver.

>>24107921
Why would you want to? Interest is a scam designed to prop up banking systems. The only interest you really need is hard work and honesty.

>>24106697
It truly is.

>>24106760
TOP TIER BRAINLET TAKE
Hazlitt had an incredibly good grasp on economics and was friends with Ludwid von Mises
Seethe harder

>consisted of >gobmint bad
Yes and the book explains why government intervention damages markets

>>24108029
That's the way to do it! I can't believe how premiums have increased generally in one year, it's mad.

>>24106980
>Hazlitt was literally a crater brain
Austrian economics is real economics.
Go away MMT/keynesian/neetsoc cuck

>>24105142
>Hypothetically gold would sell off like everything else in such a case
excellent news, I will have all my position ready by first week of febuary. I need time.

>>24107921
All usurists will be physically removed from society.

>>24108725
okay economic illiterate

>>24106210
The Americans have been making shit up about their economy longer than the USSR by this point.

>>24109208
the funny part is it works.

economics is the pseudoscience of trying to rationally explain irrational human behavior after it's already happened and then forcing your wrong ideas onto a future that nobody can forecast.

>>24104817
She doesn't count your stack, you do.

>>24108752
shut the fuck up. you are as bad as this dumb nigger >>24106760

there is literally no need for usury in a society.

>>24104817
Sorry for your loss, boss. Was she hot? If so post lewds on a non-blue-board and post the link here

>>24109749
>there is literally no need for usury in a society.
It's the only incentive rich people have to help poor people.

Why the hell do these PM websites take so fucking long to process payments? I mean, I could place a $10,000 order from amazon and receive it in 2-3 days. But a $99 order from Monument Metals takes a fucking month?? WHY??? What are THEY doing wrong, in the grand scheme of eCommerce? And how can they fix it??
>inb4 LCS

>>24110487
Just go to your LCS bro

>>24110487
Speaking of which, where the fuck is the best place to buy bullion from Aus. I know the usual places, but I am looking to get some American rounds etc but most places either charge a stupid amount for postage or do not ship outside the US.

>>24110567
Bitch, I clearly stated:
>inb4 LCS
Also, my LCS may not match said online PM retailer's deal. Hence, online may be the best deal for what I'm looking for (except for shipping shenanigans). My question, in basic-bitch terms (for the illiterate), is: Why do online PM merchants blow so much smoke? Is it in hopes that the agreed-upon price/ozt changes so much they can welch on the terms? I'm not even THAT heated about it! Moreso just curious.
>>24110657
Can't help, Roo-anon! Sorry.

>>24107860
Based, nice to see other people here collecting South African silver besides Krugerrands.

>>24104947
nice one. pure, clean and wholesome Waifus are the best Waifus

Reminder that phils look gay

>>24104817
M8 UK OIOI!

>>24110657
Ainsliebullion is decent

>>24111176
I hate them so fucking much. I'm disgusted just looking at them.
t. owner of 500 phillys because it was the cheapest option

>>24111176
Someone explain this meme to me

Where is a good place to hide a 1kg silver bar besides a safe?

>>24111316
uncultured swine have no appreciation for the finer arts represented by the Phillharmoniker coin design

>>24111383
You aren’t cultured because you bought a coin with instruments on it

>>24104803
boy do i got some lewds of her

>>24111494
>I fling poo
> - t. insufferable cunt

>>24111646
>I’m a cultured individual!
>t. Retard who bought the gayest coin in existence
Eagles are immaculate

>>24107860
based crown poster. agreed there are deals on crowns if you don't mind wading through a sea o shit.

>>24106760

Fool. Who determines who is or isn't an "economist"? There was no economics PhD for Adam Smith, he simply wrote a book.

>>24105162
I'm honestly going to shill for KGC. Great financials and has a better dividend than GOLD.
In other news, my new metal is arriving on Monday and Tuesday. Will post pics of the opening.

>>24111766
retarded poo flinging should be a bannable offense

Currently watching this hyper long documentary. Been awesome so far
https://youtu.be/mB-pdPaQNKA

>>24112815
What the fuck? Watch from 29.30 onwards

Eagles were $29.50 at the flea market today. Snagged 5 but it hurts

What's the best looking coins containing silver?

>>24113083
eagle coins

>>24110725
It's to keep you from supporting your LCS, and through it, your local community. Online bullshit is there to be as close to the bottom line as possible in order to keep you frkm realizing this

My girlfriend is allergic to silver /pmg/, I suspect she's a werewolf.

Eagles

>>24111282
Bro my LCS never has phillys, and I want a couple rolls. I should be able to afford more next month but we'll see how it goes

>>24113083
Eagles
Krugerrand
Maples

The rest aren’t anything special and philharmonics are the bottom of the barrel last resort type. I mean I’d buy phils to melt into bars but that’s about it

>>24113236
phillies are a good buy right now. just over $13k for a 500 coin monster box

>>24113083

>>24113286
Better off buying silver shot at that point. Why pay $26 for silver that’s main use is melting material

>>24113286
>undesirable coin has low premium
Amazing

One for the anime haterz

I unironically think I might have made a bad decision buying gold and silver
my gold is up around 50% since buying but everywhere I turn people are talking about btc replacing gold and the btc chart defies everything
wouldn’t surprise me if this shit goes to $300k while gold dumps down to $1100 again
fucking sucks

>>24109953
>usury
>'help'

>>24114297
Your a fucking tourist and you did fuck up. All these fags who do not understand pm's and were just hoping for a shitcoin moon shot are getting fucking unbearable.

>>24114297
yes you did wrong, sell it now, buy bitcoin and go to another thread. They will explain to you how 18k is only the start !

>>24104929
dif girl anon... how TF can you not tell?

Mirror protocol will let you buy gold from ETH

>>24105513
It happens when there is more stock related news then physical.

There are only so many times we can go
"silver gold good! hedge/store of value, get you through to the other side' and agree with each other.

Outside of spot, supply issues, or new coins/bars, there isnt always a lot of news.

Gold, gold never changes.

>>24111561
pls share or linky

bumping so the thread doesn't die

>>24115506
Would be really nice to see a transition back to aesthetic, long life, things like sterling silverware and nice furniture. The disposale cup and endless cookie cutter furniture/buildings seems like a reflection of the sick soul of society. But every time I see some piece of art like this used, and cherished, as both its art and function, it gives me hope that one day it could return as the norm.

>>24114489
Would copper be a step above barter?

>>24115727
>Would be really nice to see a transition back to aesthetic, long life, things like sterling silverware and nice furniture
It's really nice. I love these romantic sterling pieces of art. The details are amazing: you can see the small dents on the side in the middle picture of my image really well, left by arduous shaping of the bowl. This particular bowl, according to the man from whom I bought it, is probably of Portuguese handicraft.
>The disposale cup and endless cookie cutter furniture/buildings seems like a reflection of the sick soul of society
That's a reflection of the economy... Consumerism. It's just sad really. They don't make things like they used to.

>>24115781
Copper would be barter

How does it feel to know that crypto won

>>24115727
second this

>>24114297
Have both. NEVER put all or even most of your eggs in one basket.

>>24110725
This post right here >>24113206 is exactly why. It's easier to buy smaller quantities when you don't have much fiat to spend but want to get at least a little something. And on top of that, most LCS outlets will prefer you spend cash to keep their customers safe from a papertrail. In other words, to protect you financially in case >>24104817 happens.

And on that note, it'll get better anon. Odds are this may turn out being the best thing to happen to you. Surviving the first year or so legally will be a challenge. My advice is to turn over anything of value to a trusted family member or friend before her (((lawyers))) get wind of your holdings.

Eagles are good.
A winged goddess is also fine

Does anyone have a second opinion on collecting metals from storm drains? Ever since I’ve read >>23330623 (I highly recommend you read the whole thread, https://yuki.la/biz/23324958#p23330623)) I’ve gotten an obsession with storm drain exploration. I have of course not done it yet and don’t intend to until summer, but can anybody confirm It’s worth it? No draining/urbex discussions I’ve read mention this. I’d honestly be doing it anyway without this incentive, but I don’t want to be disappointed. It’d be nice if I could summon Drainanon to the thread.

>>24115933
It is sort of one of those chicken vs egg things... our aesthetics reflect the economy and vice versa in many ways.

>>24116430
Thank fully this too shall pass

>>24116683
>our aesthetics reflect the economy and vice versa in many ways.
I think social and cultural values play a bigger role, things like family values, traditions, etc.

>>24116683
>our aesthetics reflect the economy and vice versa in many ways.
I actually heard from somewhere an argument that a lot of modern art looks like trash because art reflects economy. Food for thought.
In any case, I've been slowly losing hope for the economy while watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB-pdPaQNKA
It's a documentary in support of unbacked greenbacks but it's rather convincing. Gets really deep into how the global financial elite have been consolidating power throughout the times. I urge anybody here to watch it even though it's quite a movie. Harrowing stuff

I am the holder of the schillings.

>>24116382

>>/wsg/3694085

>>24116382

>>>/wsg/3694085

>>24116382
Nice weed and rocks.

>>24117307
What does this mean

>>24112815

Government Money Masters: Anti-Gold Videos that Thousands of Tea Party Voters Think Are Conservative

https://www.garynorth.com/public/8574.cfm

"The first video is called The Money Masters. The narrator is Bill Still. Mr. Still has written no books. He has not published scholarly articles on economic theory. There is no Wikipedia entry for him. Compared to Bill Still, the Rothschilds are publicity hounds. He has not addressed the issue of Civil Service protection for his proposed government money masters. Part 1 is here.

It took a lot of money to produce this video.

He narrates a follow-up video, The Secret of Oz.

Next, there is a PowerPoint presentation. It was produced by something called the Council on Spiritual, Psychological, Economic Renewal. I could find no books sold on its site, or anything that showed who they are or what they are promoting. There is no indication who the narrator is. He sounds young. The video is here:

Then there is Money as Debt, a combination narrative and cartoons.

The Greenbackers have never had a trained economist to defend their fiat money views. They only have books written by people with no training in economics. They do not have a scholarly journal. They do not have intellectual magazines. They never have -- not since 1874.

What they have is supporters. I know, because they keep sending me links to these videos."

>>24117743
This comment that you've quoted only attacks the Greenbackers' credibility but does not address the points of the video. I, personally, am slowly getting convinced of the idea of greenbacking, or at least the idea of a currency that isn't backed by debt. It's most important that there is an equilibrium in the supply of money (whether it is gold-backed, greenbacked, whether the money is made of plastic or wood doesn't matter to me as much) and that there is little deflation and inflation. That's what I'm beginning to think at least. The video is quite convincing.

>>24109749
fucking retard

>>24116382

420 make it!

>>24116783
I agree, I was trying to make the point that it is a deeply intertwined/interconnected issue and that this was only one facet of it.

>>24116817
literally a hand full of families pull all the major strings. scary stuff

>>24117965
>>24117743
Although I'm failing to understand how a gold-backed currency would be bad while a greenback would be better... What stops a government from deflating and inflating a greenbacked currency any more than our current debt-backed currency...?

It all seems like an endless problem of who to give the coveted power of control over money supply. Perhaps cryptofags have been right all along?

>>24118520
>What stops a government from deflating and inflating a greenbacked currency any more than our current debt-backed currency...?
Nothing, and they ALWAYS will.
This is why greenbackers are stupid and it's not much different to our current system.

We need a gold standard so NOBODY can fuck with the price of money.

>>24118644
That's what I figured as well. But let's say we went into a full-on gold standard. What of the current owners of all that gold? The Central Banks and the international elite holds most of the gold in the world. ...Would anything even change?

>>24118023
I think your observations are correct. I see it as symptoms of a failing, falling, dying empire, or a dying siociety. western culture in dying.
the progressive socialists would say the world is evolving and changing for the better.
I disagree. my reasons are that, humans in our present state are not capable of functioning properly for this ideal utopian diversified all inclusive "we're all the same' type of society.
too many differences in social, cultural ethnic, religious, personal values, morals, ethics. you cant make todays people live together and honestly accept, love and support and protect each other

yet that's what these idealists would have us believe is their goal. maybe in another thousand years humans will be ready. not even close right now.

>>24118697
>The Central Banks and the international elite holds most of the gol
they don't own most of the gold, and they can't really manipulate anything with it because they're competing with all other large gold owners

https://mises.org/library/gold-standard-myths-and-lies

>>24118789
Indeed, the ideal state is not some uniform equilibrium where nothing changes and everything is "peaceful" and "love and gum drops for everyone".

That sounds like hell on Earth.

Utopia is the freedom to change, fight, excel or die.

Thank God nature always finds a way to return to this state.

>>24118829
>they don't own most of the gold
http://www.usfunds.com/investor-library/frank-talk/top-10-countries-with-largest-gold-reserves/#.X7lOAs0zaUk
I'm having trouble understanding whether it's countries and governments, or Central Banks that own the gold. If it's the latter, God help us because then they have the privilege of manipulating the supply as much as they want, for the Central Banks' mutual benefit

A gold standard (or any lasting commodity-backed currency) is otherwise a great idea I guess. If the currency starts being inflated or deflated there is always the option of acquiring the underlying commodity for safety from currency devaluation.
I wonder, would crypto currency be a good system after all? Considering that no single entity could mess with the supply.
>>24118789
I agree. I think that different cultures are a wonderful thing and that nothing would come of suppressing cultural differences. Though as the world progresses and traveling becomes easier some cultural ideas will inevitably be transformed or assimilated into other cultures in different areas of the world. Not sure whether that is a good thing or a bad thing, I think it's both. But get rid of different cultures altogether in one fell swoop? Ridiculous. It takes time and nobody should try to enforce cultural change, it's entirely organic and natural much like a free market

>>24118697
That's why you use silver. Harder to hoard, harder to spend in bulk. It is its nature!

>>24111176
>>24111316
Main problem is that the harmonica has a plain edge instead of a reeded one (kike's wet dream right there). The gold and platinum ones have reeded edges and look SO much better for it.

>>24111383
Retard. Look above. Put reeding on the silver one to make it clip-evident, and 95% of the hate will go away.

>>24119514
Excellent observation

>>24119446
>If it's the latter, God help us because then they have the privilege of manipulating the supply as much as they want, for the Central Banks' mutual benefit
how can they really manipulate it though? They all compete with each other

Where do you go from here now that the golden bull has started and PMs haven't even budged gold and silver cucks?

>>24119487
You might be onto something anon!
>>24119607
They're privately owned institutions with the mutual interest of getting richer and richer. The elite gets richer with the help of the money printing done by all Central Banks even in our current system. What's to stop them from exploiting the Central Banks' gold supplies to control asset prices and keep accumulating more wealth in a gold standard...?

>>24107860
NOICE

>>24119841
>What's to stop them from exploiting the Central Banks' gold supplies to control asset prices and keep accumulating more wealth in a gold standard...?
I want to abolish all central banks.
But if the world was suddenly on a gold standard system, it would be like america pre-1971.

>>24119514
or, you could just, you know,.. measure it with calipers, weigh it with a scale .. or even,..... compare it to a pristine original unmolested Harmoniker sample kept just for such purpose

you

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>>24119596
retard worshippers deserve the rope alongside your retard idol

>>24120014
Faking dimensions and weights is simple. There is no reason for phils to have a flat edge. Cope harder philtard

>>24119966
It would be great. While pondering about this conundrum, I've come to the conclusion that a currency backed by an underlying asset (such as gold) would be amazing if only the underlying asset is held in the hands of a totally 100% neutral party whose sole interest is in exchanging the asset for currency. If currency is devalued, you'd need more of that currency to exchange for the underlying asset.

What organization, or who would be this neutral party? ...Sadly I don't know. Anything and everything is corruptible by that kind of power, and others that do have interests could try to obtain such power for themselves. Maybe a decentralization is necessary... a crypto-backed currency might just be preferable. Or a system where the gold is held by multiple neutral parties, although both of those systems are probably corruptible as well.

It's an infinite problem...

>>24120056
>>24120014
>Defending a coin minted by a government that lost a war to emus

>>24105513
haha rock haha im going to be rich i have rock

>>24120187
>PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF FUTURE RESULTS
there's your warning

>>24106831
Every time I see this webm I'm horrified about something new.

>>24106831
I thought this was fake? It's real?
Why are we not publicly executing these people right now?

>>24120305
>This time it will be different!
>my great grandpa once said that-

>>24120369
yep
>>24120447
its all to real they deleted it because of all the backlash

>>24108034
>>24108725
Based

>>24112219
just bought more KGC and BTG on Friday, it's insane how low they are right now, both will easily be up at least 25% within a few months

>>24120471
>my great grandpa once said that-
This but unironically, nobody in this thread has lived through interest rates reaching the zero bound, only those alive during the Great Depression or who study it extensively will have good advice for these times.

>>24120109
just because your wife fakes her orgasms with you all the time,
doesn't mean Phillies are going to be faked

>>24104765
I noticed /k/ is practically unusable today and /pmg/ is getting shat up like usual, I haven’t checked /pol/ but it seems like another coordinated raid from discord trannies and lefty/pol/

>>24120140
Colonel Meredith was a lone combatant doing battle against a standing enemy force of 15,000 Emus.
not a fair comparison

>>24119693
it's getting awfully quiet around here as of late!

I'm on unemployment right now and comfy.

Should I work under the table jobs to get more money to put into miners?

>>24106831
I can't tell if this is faked or not, but if it's real this is like they made a collection of /pol/ schizo's worst nightmares and threw some neutral stuff in there to keep it credible

>>24120471
Image shows annual returns on stocks and bonds getting smaller and smaller as time goes on
Wow you really showed me how boomer rocks are bad anon!

>>24120670
why what are they shilling for?

>>24120670
you can only post your stack so many times before it gets old.
meanwhile, wee still come here for conversation, some humour, a little friendly banter and the anime waifus

>>24120700
You absolutely should, taking government money and working without paying tax simultaneously is a patrician move. Usually farms will hire people off the books but since it’s almost winter you should try to find a logging gig

>>24120723
Not any shilling but every single thread on /k/ is unusable, nothing but faggots calling each other faggots and arguing with each other over stupid shit that has nothing to do with the thread topic

>>24120187
Only the performance since 1971 matters, before then Gold was set at a statutory price and performed completely different from the system we have today.

>>24120830
where do you think you are?
dud you forget this is 4chins?

generally speaking, "good threads" are the exception, not the rule

>>24120909
Speaking of good threads that last pmg on geopolitics was good stuff.

>>24120700
Even if you're not going to speculate on miners, you should increase your cashflow and war chest. The next few months will be volatile and money just gives you options, either on the defense or offense, both of which you'll find useful.

>>24120938
there is some good economic discussion occassionally, yesterday was one.

much of it is over by head unfortunately. I dont know why buy I just cant get macro "economics"

even the basic premise of "debt based money" or "money = debt" whatever, makes my brain lock up.

>>24120369
>>24120447
>>24120707
mises.org/wire/lockdowns-great-reset
For those that want a QRD. It's good bait but don't be too concerned, the only WEF policy people want is money printer going brrrrr. Checked their Youtube channel, no views and lots of dislikes. Their movement will die with the banking system.

>>24120447
It's real, saw it on WEF's Twitter and the comments were glorious -- everybody hated that

>>24113083
Maples for me, but I understand that some people hate the old bag.

Daily reminder that most (maybe all) crypto is a scam. Everyone should have at least some gold as savings and insurance.

>>24120119
This is why using sound money, which IS gold/silver is the only way to keep everyone honest.

The second you start using certificates/promises of gold/silver there becomes a middle man who makes the promises/exchanges reall PM's for certificates, and the whole downward spiral begins anew.

Zero reason the not use gold or silver directly as currency, anyone who suggests using promises of PM's i just trying to introduce deception/unsound practices.

>>24121067
If only it would die with the bankers

>>24120607
The coin damn near literally says "wiener harmonica" on it. It's not going to be popular in anglophone countries, and considering all the bullshit you list that the receiver would have to do— which are notably all made redundant by the mint simply putting notches in the striking collar, mind you— to ensure the coins they get aren't altered just shows why the criticism I brought up is valid.

And if you really, REALLY have to keep a smooth edge, just do lettering there, FFS. I've got circulation silver coins almost a century old with edge lettering (non-Latin, even!), and they still hold up after decades in commerce.

>>24121361
Der Coomer

>>24120305
that pic kek

Is it possible to make a more faggy looking coin?

>>24121651
Sure but this takes the cake for a government minted coin. Hopefully the retard that came up with the design finds a new line of work

When will this beauty be cancel-cultured? No later than 2025 imo. Too offensive. See Redskins

>>24120763
I have work I can do but I'm super lazy right now

>>24120994
damn I know you're right

>>24121651
And the hell of it is, THAT one has a reeded edge. So does the platinum one! So not only does it look unprofessional being smooth, it's not even consistent with its sibling coins! Fuck's sake, Germany Jr., see some logic!

>>24121772
this has been my thought as well. the US mint will have to change it at some point. they are already changing the eagles for the worse. I've been buying more Buffalos lately because of this.

>>24106760
It's based on Bastiat's work you faggot

>>24121651
Yes.jpg

>>24120583
this thread only proves the infinite nature of human stupidity - 200 years of data is suspicious, but words from the mouth of a silent generation member is sufficient

>>24121651
Will never own such a shit looking coin

>>24120686
>sometimes i imagine my past life, fighting in the emu war
>me and my brothers in formation, shooting down wave after wave of E*u dogs as they clamber at us
>I run out of bullets and start gutting emu by the dozen with my bayonet
>still the emu horde is unrelenting, the cowardly E*u scum swarm me
>Its over in a flash
>I arise amongst a pale mist on the dry beach
>I am in Melbourne. My brothers and sisters are waiting for me to put another shrimp on the barbie, I am home.

>>24122058
Oh my fucking god. It's real:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces176680.html
Day of the Rake can't come soon enough!

so any idea about gold salvaging? isnt there like gold in wires and shit? surely i could comb through all the trash and make a brick eventually.

>>24122450
>surely

>>24122058
ah god I forgot this existed

>been holding gold since 2012
>only broke even this year

am I going to make it bros?

>>24122554
i imagine myself as a kind of cyberpunk techno-hobo, rifling through the trash by day, and melting down my scraps by night. i will stalk the alleyways behind the apple store and become something of an urban legend.

>>24122662

>>24122334
kek
>>24122450
the key word is eventually. Look at some of the videos of harvesting gold from computer parts, the value of the amount of parts you'd have to collect is outweighed by the time it would take to source it. it would be a better use of your time to just work and buy an ounce.

of course hoard shit whenever it comes your way and spend an afternoon processing it when you have a pile and you've got yourself some free gold.

>>24122690
Two senators who would vote for her were out and McConnell strategically changed his vote at the last minute so they can vote on her again. Which they will do when those other two senators are back.

>>24122934
>>24122690

why bother? She's just a sellout like greenspan.
If she got in she would have the same policies as every fed chairman before her and when the collapse happens people will blame the crash on her "free market gold standard policies"
This is how dumb normies are, the elites know this.

Trying to convince my idiot of a friend that consumerism, debt, and usury are all evils that must be eliminated. Yet still, he insists I am the idiot.

>>24104765
Thoughts? Suggestions? Wanted to build a PM portfolio but wanted enough exposure to miners to maybe give it some upward movement in the upcoming FUCKERY

>>24123059
I don't understand how people can fall for the consumerism meme
Yeah it makes the reddit GDP numbers go up, same with debt and interest, but is the bing bing wahoo of the stock market really worth the loss of humanity?

>>24121481
>The coin damn near literally says "wiener harmonica" on it.
gee Bill, your mom let's you have a whole roll of Weiners?

>>24122690
We have lost.

>>24123132
He thinks that consmerism is the ability to buy stuff in general. Like how factory workers back in the 1920's were consumers.

>>24123367
Fucking wew

>>24123059
When you tell the sheep of their impending doom yet they still laugh at you and gleefully walk into the pasture, there’s not much you can do except know you tried to save them, but they did not want to be saved

>>24123059
I hate debt, but if you believe in precious metals (and by extension inflation, fiat collapse, etc) then loading up on debt to buy real estate is also a consistent strategy.

>>24121343
>>24113267
>>24113083
'Dollar' as the name of a currency ruins it. Rand and pound are the white man's coins. Dollar is an Ibero-Arab term.

>>24121651
Coin looks fine you autist. Beats out 80% of others simply for not having a rotting bitch on the reverse
>t. 7 harmonics

>70% of the posts itt are deluded shitcoins shills and lowIQ buttcorn maxis trying to fudd PMs with their retardness
Can't wait for the crypto pump&dump scam to crash once again so these lowIQ niggers finally fuck off our general

>>24121772
>big nose
>beauty
Is this some reverse psychology to get the ball rolling on them cancelling it for something actually good? Because I'd be down for that

>>24121651
I like the reverse but you’re right, the obverse is just downright hideous

>>24121651
You could put the Queen on it...

>>24122058
>Canada legalized buttsex the year after they stopped minting Silver coins.
Interesting.

>>24123956
Many such cases!

>>24123059
There is literally nothing wrong with usury or debt.

>dude people should NEVER borrow money to fund capital projects
You're insane, nothing would ever get done.
inb4 you inevitably call me a jew, I don't care

>>24123741
Have you even seen the disgusting new designs for the AGE? I wouldn’t hold out hope for any modern redesign to look better

>>24124089
>There is literally nothing wrong with usury or debt.

>>24124089
Debt can be used. Use of it must be controlled though. The average cannot be trusted with debt. Credit scores were a mistake. Interest is also a mistake. Money does not create ex nihil.

>>24124089
>dude just be like the muslims where the bank is an equity partner instead of paying interest!

>>24124089
This, imagine if we had around 10% interest rates, it'd be beautiful
>90% of purchases are made up front, people live within their means
>no need to invest in unstable markets
>debt is only used when it's really necessary and doesn't screw over idiots who think 0% loans are free money
>zombie corporations get what they fucking deserve

>>24124520
Once you move out of your parent's basement you'll see why debt is necessary. In real life wages for one person after taxes don't even cover the cost of housing.

you can either marry a working woman or take on debt. Usually some combination of both.

>>24120686
lol

>>24124628
I wonder why we are in this situation ...

>>24123124
I own some PPLT. GDX and GDXJ are decent but I like the Sprott products better as they're just the smartest and best guys in the room. As for SIL and SILJ I personally don't like their holdings as much and I made my own basket, but they;re still good and safe products to hold that will give you torque.

>>24124731
What makes you choose Sprott over GDX/GDXJ? Not too familiar with mining holdings, I've just known of all of these for some time. SIL/SILJ aren't the best, but I just don't know enough about the mining business to really handpick my own at these times.

As a side note but how would you say SPROTT is compared to GLD/SLV? Any concerns there? I've always heard a lot of shit on GLD/SLV as far as reliability goes, but I can never find anything to substantiate this

>>24124676
because you're meant to work, not sit idle for 80 years before dying having done nothing and produced no offspring.

that's the main reason anyways. I know, it sucks.

>>24124170
There is is. I bet you feel super smart right now.

>>24124477
>>dude just be like the muslims where the bank is an equity partner instead of paying interest!
Yes, that's retarded.
This basedjak should have been directed at the anon I was responding to.

>>24124825
>In real life wages for one person after taxes don't even cover the cost of housing
>there is nothing wrong with that ! trust me !
haha, you can't make this shit up.

>>24124876
>There is is. I bet you feel super smart right now.
>There is is
I feel smart because I know you are not smart

>>24124089
Lol you’re literally living off unemployment and you tout how great usury is, cognitive dissonance here is off the charts

>>24124891
you evolved to move out of your parent's house, marry someone, produce children, support your spouse and children until they're old enough to move out and repeat the cycle, and then feed and house yourself and others until you get too old and they take care of you.

this is the human life cycle, and it's a shitload of work.

If you think any part of this should be bypassed you're an evolutionary failure that won't pass on its genes anyways, so your ideas don't matter.

>>24125023
>Durr life sucks and then you die
That's not what he's getting at, retard

>>24124628
>In real life wages for one person after taxes don't even cover the cost of housing.
Because everyone lives beyond their means. This isn't the only reason for expensive housing, but it's a major one. Everybody talks about muh '50s when anyone could easily buy a car or house upfront, but when you point out the cheap cars and houses you can buy today people scoff at how small and pathetic they are. A new compact is $18k, barely smaller than full size cars from the '50s, better in almost every respect, and yet the average car sold today costs nearly $40k.

>>24124936
>I feel smart because I know you are not smart
You're the one with zero argument.

>>24124981
>Lol you’re literally living off unemployment
So? I was working previously.
Getting rid of usury wouldn't magically make me not unemployed.
Also I'm doing the world a favor by killing the us dollar faster.

>>24125207
I'm saying we force people into situations where they can't survive on their own for a reason.

evolution doesn't favor human loners. They're not going to reproduce or survive in almost any human context throughout history.

>>24124825
Ancoms are a massive joke. Their ideology requires a state.

>all these commodity evaluation charts
>silver/gold to gdp/snp500/nasdaq/dollar
>gold and silver recently "pumped"
>mfw we're still buying at an absolute lowest of lows according to all the charts
This is going to be either manipulated into stagnation forever or explode beyond imagination. I'm just worried that all the governments of the world will work together to make sure that gold will forever more be nothing but a safety asset.

>>24122690
fucking rick fucking Scott fucking golem looking asshat

>>24125218
>Because everyone lives beyond their means
you have to be very specific because throughout the vast majority of human history their "means" was a dirt and hide shack, usually so impermanent they had to move it and rebuild several times a year.

you cite some imagined golden age in the 50's, which was indeed a great time to be a white american male, but even then most of the world was living in squalor and probably rebuilding entire cities after we blew them up.

>>24125267
>Their ideology requires a state.
exactly.

they're blind to the benefits of society that they live in and don't understand where those benefits came from.

>>24125498
>they're blind to the benefits of society that they live in and don't understand where those benefits came from.
I really despise ancoomers.

>>24122659
Now factor in inflation anon, you’re way behind, but least you didn’t hold silver

I'm having second thoughts about Gold and Silver, especially in a SHTF scenario, please help me out.

I've got a small stack of physical gold and silver, maybe worth around 5k total.
I love the idea of accumulating more, but suppose shit hits the fan, economy collapses, gold/silver worth a ton, dollars worth nothing, etc. etc.

What at that point does a normal guy like me who lives in the suburbs do with my stacks? I don't have land in the country to live off of away from potential chaos, with the ability to trade my stacks for food and supplies from the local farmers nearby, etc. I probably couldn't just take my stacks to the bank to trade in, or to a coin shop (which would probably have been looted 20 times over). I can't just bring silver coins to the grocery store to buy food. And what would my suburban neighbors do with a silver coin, they probably wouldn't have anything to trade. Etc.Etc..

So is stacking physical only a beneficial investment for people who live in certain regions or circumstances?

Would I be better off just trying to trade paper silver/gold on the stock market? I'm still skeptical of crypto. So what's the solution?

>>24125590
whats wrong with silver? i baught in when it was like 14 an oz

>>24125299
PMs are screwed, especially silver. the paper maker will forever keep us suppressed compared to Pretty much all other markets

>>24125642
I think that's why most here recommend also buying the largest guns you can afford, several tons of ammo, and the last of the V8 Interceptors before making your way alone across the desert in search of drinking water and that precious precious guzzoline

Market*

>>24125666
Well done you bought the lows, unfortunately most others have been dca’ing in and if they bought any number of years ago they’re fucked especially when we count inflation

>>24125299
https://twitter.com/TheLastDegree/status/1330236838380974080
You have until next week to get in, the next leg up will start.

>>24125642
that's why you also buy 3 month worth of food and water at the very least. Most people won't survive the first month anyway.

>>24125465
>you have to be very specific because throughout the vast majority of human history their "means" was a dirt and hide shack
What's your point? Means change over time, historically nobody lived beyond their limited means because debt hardly existed.
>you cite some imagined golden age in the 50's
Only because that's what I always see brought up when people mention how expensive houses and everything else is these days.
>>24125642
No practical investment will help you in the painful period following hyperinflation, before a new currency is widely accepted. Just prepare a few months of supplies and wait, even if metals aren't the next standard they'll still be highly valued and readily exchanged for whatever will be.

>>24125917
>What's your point?
debt is integral to the style of life you live

even the machine you're communicating on is something you would never afford in a thousand lifetimes if it weren't for the debt that produced it and the debt that sold it to you.

>>24104765
Did the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (not the filthy communist country) ever mint any silver coins?

>>24124819
Sprott ETFs are made by legends of the mining and resource industry, the best of the best, and they hold less crap. Mathmatically GLD and SLV can't hold as much gold and silver as is traded, but whether or not a default or collapse of the product comes to fruition still is up in the air; it's been speculated on for years. I personally would choose Sprott products over those. While in the end Sprott is still just a company, they've got a 10/10 reputation and haven't screwed anybody ever. It's not marketing that causes people to love the company or the people, but just interactions throughout the decades.

>>24125779
GV is a self admitted permabull and his short term projections have been very wrong recently. Don't take his word for it, nothing is set in stone; he called a bottom a month ago.

>>24125987
Yes, they did the last ones were 100 leva coins minted in the 30s.

>>24125237
Fuck off, you're sounding like a psychopath ringleader invested in keeping everyone in slavery. If you want to have that shitty outlook towards life go ahead, but not everyone has to live by that.

>>24121651
>leaf

>>24126293
I hope he is wrong, not positionned well enough. How long do you think this fall will last ? I mean, no event in sight until late january with CBDC unless news pop up about election.

>>24117743
>>24117965
>>24118520

Nobody has done more work to refute the Greenbackers and nonsense like The Money Masters than Gary North. You can learn about their errors here:

https://www.garynorth.com/public/department141.cfm

Greenbackers are essentially advocates for MMT--radical socialists. Everything which they advocate for is based upon lies. Greenbacking has never worked. Consumer prices rose by 75% between 1861-65.

>>24126320
working to support yourself and help others isn't slavery, moron.

by working together we afford a much better life than we could alone. You want all the benefits of society with none of the work.

you're a parasite pretending to fight oppression

>>24126299
I can only find Bulgarian 100 levas on eBay and not Yugoslav, where else would I be able to buy one?

>>24126328
you have bad taste

>>24126358
Why would cbdc be bullish for gold? I can see it for bitcoin cause it’s digital, it’s a non event for gold though

>>24126381
You want us to live in a debt based system with kike pedo ringleaders. I really don't care what you think. you can get fucked.

>>24118829
>>24119446

The notion that the central banks own all the gold is fud and pro-crypto/anti-gold propaganda. Only one fifth of gold is in the hands of central banks. The rest is in the hands of the people in the form of jewellery. Reverting to gold would destroy the power of governments and banks.

>>24126497
so don't

move to guatamala or ecuador or some other place where you can live on your own free of debt and employment. I'm sure it will be very nice for you. We both know you don't have the balls to live your convictions though. If you did you'd have died by now.

>>24126497
you wanna live in a fairytale where you contribute fuckall while the country takes on no debt yet someone else pays your bills, in earlier times you would’ve starved

>>24126381
>you have to suffer and contribute towards our community otherwise we will destroy your livelihood
Again, you can't make this shit up haha.
>>24126448
people like to have their own shit, simple as that. CBDC is the first step towards UBI.

>>24126358
>>24126448
Realistically in this instance I do think we're nearing a bottom in the next 2 weeks, likely with one last massive puke and retesting of lower support. However this is coinciding with a locking down of economies again and a massive rise in covid cases, which threaten a second liquidation event and spike in dollar strength, things that are bearish for gold. So I don't know, but I'm hedging my way into oversold positions and keeping an eye on others.

Regardless stimulus is on it's way sometime in early 2021 so right before that is where the bottom will likely be if not these weeks.

CBDC are absolutely bullish for gold and if you aren't able to see beyond the surface level physical and digitial aspects of these assets then there's no hope for you. Simply ask what is the reason that they want to move to CBDC? Aren't currencies almost entirely digitalised already?

>>24126555
Day of the rope is coming kike. once the debt implosion and social unrest sets in its open season on you faggots.

>>24126662
what will you do though? someone who doesn’t contribute to society will never fight and risk dying for their beliefs either

>>24126632
>you have to suffer and contribute towards our community otherwise we will destroy your livelihood
you don't have a livlihood without our community. So no, we're not going to let you steal our resources and give nothing back.

The bitcoin vs Gold feud is so fucking stupid. This chart says so so much.

>>24126938
It’s in a bull market now tho same as end of 2016, 2017 and golds losing relevance

>>24127004
You fell for the narrative. They're the same macro trade and for that reason both are in bull markets just off their ATHs. Do you think bull markets just happen for no reason?

>>24126723
We're doing just that right now, and we continue to do so until it collapses. And you can't stop us. How's that natural selection meme working out for you?

>>24126391
Whoops! The Yugoslav ones are 100 Dinara, my mistake.

>>24127123
>How's that natural selection meme working out for you?
fine by me. I'll be dead long before society collapses and you'll be dead very shortly after.
Meanwhile I have produced healthy children that know how to work to survive while your parents produced fairly stupid weaklings.

>>24126723
>So no, we're not going to let you steal our resources and give nothing back.
You haven't stopped anyone who has so far, in fact you're just aiding in their proliferation
Kill everyone who hasn't had a job in the last 2 years and then we can talk about everything else. The "bro we make it harder on purpose" meme is hilarious because you conveniently forgot about welfare cases shitting up everyone else's life and finances

>>24127219
>in fact you're just aiding in their proliferation
that is what they give back

the machine needs children, and you guys sure as hell aren't making many

>>24126938
debunked

>>24127217
You're kids are probably retarded drones just like you. Being adjusted to a profoundly sick society is no measure of health.

>>24127267
kek
It's always fun to see "I'm an ebin overlord" posting on a rock watching forum

>>24127302
They hate it just like you do and everyone does at your age. They'll grow out of it though. I'm less sure about you.

>>24127327
You never noticed that welfare mostly goes to single mothers?

or that we're allowing the most fertile catholics in the world immigrate by the millions?

our system is a ponzi scheme, we require a growing population to sustain it. But we stopped reproducing fast enough generations ago.

>>24125642

>Would I be better off just trying to trade paper silver/gold on the stock market

Don't do this. GLD and SLV are a scam. Look into Andrew Maguire's Kinesis. Perfect for your situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q9aYYluRA0&ab_channel=KinesisMoney

>>24127065
Bitcoin is a strong inflation hedge, gold isn’t really, not nearly as strong in that regard.. as it’s inflation is at least 2.5%, if you trust the miners vs bitcoins 1.79

This thread is slowly filling with newfags and idiots. ;^(

More stacks less flaming and less buttcorn

>>24127466
Yes
That's what happens as a side effect to everyone going to the crypto retard mecca

>order 10 ounces of rounds a week ago
>tracking says it's late
>didn't get passed Las Vegas before tracking lost it
Someone kill me.

>>24127499
This would never happen with bitcoin, time to step into the 21st century anon we’ve got electric cars now the horse and cart is long gone

>>24127493
I don't get the arguments. I hold both and I hold some stonks. Why wouldn't people hedge, and just go all in one? That's so risky. Have multiple investment/wealth stores. Why be so enamoured with one you overlook it's risk?
>>24127488
Photo just4u, it's old and outdated but whatever.

>>24127616
Ggnnnbgggvvsgfffcxxxxppppfffffttthhhhhhh
>>24127499
Insured shipping with your sender, right? I'd honestly never order from one without that being covered, also, obviously Vegas lol, postal worker put those all on red and you know he did.

>>24127622
When did you get the owls from Atkinsons?

>>24127622
based fivers. Is that a silver £1 in the top left and a £20 coin next to it?

>>24127488
it would be fun to have threads of just stacks.

I figure they'd die in about 15 minutes for lack of interest.

>>24127622
>I don't get the arguments. I hold both and I hold some stonks. Why wouldn't people hedge, and just go all in one? That's so risky. Have multiple investment/wealth stores. Why be so enamoured with one you overlook it's risk?
I hedge but it's when you get people going "buy now who gives a fuck if it's at the top new paradigm guaranteed investment" blah blah blah that I get irritated
Unfortunately with the most recent bull run most of the people showing up are just like "lol dumb boomer rocks can't make money just go 23478568432756x like [shitcoin] has" and shit up the one place on this board that isn't insufferable

>>24127791
nah we have them.

Its just that you need to mix it up or its just the same thread every time.

>>24127756
When cost under £90 for 5, kek. I bought them because at the time they were the cheapest 1oz coins.
>>24127761
Silver proof £1, silver sovereign above it, millennium coin below it, and some Mexican monies next to it.

>>24127867
Yeah I feel that pain. I miss actually discussing crytocurrency here, not suffering through shilling of the latest Eth shit-token that won't exist in one month.

>>24126443
>bullying the Leaf
day of the grill is coming for you

>>24124876
the right to debase the currency should be the reserved right of the archon