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24059460 No.24059460 [Reply] [Original]

Name some companies.

Google: everything they've done in the last 5 years has been mostly failure. Also they haven't really updated their software. Has anyone noticed Android and Chrome haven't been upgraded or properly patched.

>> No.24059558

>>24059460
Every large corporation. I have personally seen management diversity hires destroy entire engineering departments with incompetence at multiple companies.

>> No.24059600

>>24059460
Google is up 150% in the past 5 years, so not only are you wrong but you're also retarded

>> No.24059611

>>24059558
List em

>> No.24059621

>>24059600
So are plenty of other tech stocks

>> No.24059634

>>24059460
Boeing

>> No.24059637

>>24059600
Ok what have they done? Everything is up. What exactly have they innovated? Look how much tesla is up?

>> No.24059640

>>24059600
>Control the internet

Oh look the profit has gone up

>> No.24059651
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Intel. How could they have fucked up so bad, bros?

>> No.24059664

>>24059634
Really, I have heard about a bunch of bad stuff coming out of there. Do they really have diversity types designing planes thats dangerous.

>> No.24059688

>>24059651
Yeah amd is coming back hard but I didn't know they were that foolish too

>> No.24059717
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>>24059600
dubs confirm

>> No.24059719

>>24059600
>Stock price
What the fuck. How dumb are you. There is zero correlation between stock price and how well a company performs in their field

>> No.24059759

>>24059460
>>24059558
this. I worked as a project manager for a SV tech company from 07-15.
At one point, the project I was put on was they were outsourcing a critical part of their infrastructure to india....it was a total and complete clusterfuck. Like too much for me to write here...but suffice to say I eventually made an impassioned plea to execs to let me start a "parallel team" based in US and let indians continue to work and us work in parallel and see how could provide sensible solution first.
I was authorized with very limited budget and hired 4 engineers and we worked for 12 months and was able to "rescue" the project and bring it back in house.
Those 4 engineers were 3 whites + 1 asian-american. All males.
After proving our success, the project was taken out of my hands and handed over to a fat green haired lez, she proceeded to hire every form of diversity that exist on periodic chart.
I stayed for a year longer then left in 2015 and when I did that project was starting to fall apart again and execs were again talking about "outsourcing" to get cost down + productivity up.
Its fucking laughably insane! I cant believe I live in this world

>> No.24059762

>>24059719
In the short term your right in the long term your wrong.

>> No.24059801

>>24059759
This is what I was looking for. Do these corporations not give a fuck about talent? Did they not see what happened?

>> No.24059815

>>24059611
Raytheon, Honeywell (the division that makes nuke parts).

>> No.24059831

>>24059815
Jesus Christ

>> No.24059927

>>24059801
People in this country are indoctrinated to believe "diversity is our strength" when there has never been any evidence for it. This is reinforced through institutional mandates like affirmative action and such. The kind of people that buy into it do not have any technical skills at all and legitimately view people as identical units of human labor resource, getting extra PR points for more diversity.

>> No.24059929

>>24059460
What exactly are you talking about? Google is one of the most succesful company in the world. They have complete control over lives of a billion people.

>> No.24059944

>>24059640
>Control the internet
sounds like a successful company to me, what's your argument?

>> No.24059966

>>24059759
Imagine a country full of exclusively whites and asians. It would be a powerhouse

>> No.24059980

>>24059558
not even a joke, this is costing human progress and human lives.
eg...see Boeing 737 max for stark example of lowest cost diversified engineering.
Consider how many things are causing literal loss of life from our corporations trying to avoid being called racists.

>> No.24059985

>>24059944
Honestly, nobody can dispute their success. But I really hope Google is destroyed.

>> No.24060010

>>24059558
>>24059759
From 08-18, I worked my way up to Staff Engineer at one of the FAGMAN companies. Starting in 2014, my team got a dedicated diversity committee since a) we had one of the worse diversity scores of any product team in the company, b) were one of the most productive teams and had an externally beloved product. These two points were related. The diversity bullshit basically broke the organization and I left four years later when I realized things were unsalvageable.

>> No.24060016

>>24059460
My own :(
The firm I work for is the largest in my state for my industry, and has been incredibly successful since we started in 1947. Long story short, the firm leadership which is mostly men recently appointed two women as "partners-in-charge," and already I'm noticing the decline as the company loses its focus on what actually matters, and spending tons of resources and time on bullshit like scholarships for young black people to get into our industry. lol
The hiring is getting more "equal" but far less talented. I'm looking to jump ship while this company still has some prestige left.

>> No.24060027

>>24059621
that doesn't make OP any less retarded

>>24059637
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/01/20/tesla-8th-place-among-diverse-employers-in-europe/

>> No.24060030

>>24059944
Facebook and especially Amazon are the companies that control the Internet. Google is just the on-ramp to the Internet, at this point.

>> No.24060044

>>24059927
Wtf but its bad for business. Are you not allowed to have an all white male company. Asians too cause they're just as good from my experience, east Asians.

>> No.24060056

>>24059980
>our corporations trying to avoid being called racists.
that's not why they do this
do people really think that?
it's because its cheaper so they really hoped it would work
but obviously in reality it just causes planes to crash

>> No.24060073

>>24059929
>>24059944
Smart people develop the tools and algorithms. Then middle and upper management fill the ranks with warm-body diversity hires who contribute nothing technical. The tools and algorithms allow them to continue making ungodly amounts of money and have extreme power without having to actually grow or innovate most other aspects of their businesses.

>> No.24060085

go woke
go broke

>> No.24060094

>>24059929
Ok but if you don't innovate you fall. Like Walmart is still big but it didn't take over. Amazon took a lot of their market share even though everyone was worried they'd "rule the world". I see Microsoft and Amazon improving but not Google frankly. I think their the next Walmart in a sense.

>> No.24060103

>>24059664
>Really, I have heard about a bunch of bad stuff coming out of there.
Have you heard of the 737 Max?

>> No.24060128

>>24060010
This is way better than what I said. Definitely helped me flush out what I was thinking. Thanks anon

>> No.24060154

>>24059966
It would creativity and efficiency combined.

>> No.24060157

its cannibalization. push ridiculous standards to kill competitions and grab tinny market share at the price of having to comply to your own bullshit. costs of bullshit accumulate, company dies. Marxists kill with 1000 small needles

>> No.24060159

>>24059600
I have puts in place for next year.

>> No.24060196

>>24060044
These businesses are like the Titanic. They have so much momentum from a century of success that you do not immediately see the results of shit hiring practices until many years later (from the super high level business standpoint). By the time they actually are able to see it adversely affect the bottom line, it is way too late to salvage.

>> No.24060223

>>24060103
Thats what I was referring too. I know it was something to do with a programming issue

>> No.24060244

>>24060056
>that's not why they do this
>do people really think that?
I literally work for one of these companies. The CEO and all top and mid level management ALWAYS point out in every townhall/quarterly big meeting how they are "rated highly" by diversity consultants. My company does not GAF about cost of compensation difference between white westerns and all others. I know you think its pure capitalism and in a tighter industry its true for sure, but my industry, the profits, comp does not matter.

>> No.24060251

>>24059600
Not because of new innovations though. It's just because of digital ad market momentum.
Past innovations can only go so far.

>> No.24060262

>>24060094
Walt Mart is the biggest company in the world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_companies_by_revenue
>>24060073
So what? Their goal is to win power and money or impress poltards?

>> No.24060264

>>24060223
Wrong post my bad

>> No.24060285

>>24060196
I wonder if there paying these people the same. I can't tell if its to save money or to save face.

>> No.24060290

>>24060223
Retarded Ethiopian pilots caused their crash

>> No.24060308

>>24060264
Wrong post to the wrong post. Guess I'm bumping the thread right

>> No.24060310

>>24060196
This, and the assholes responsible still never realize their mistakes and fail to connect the dots.

>> No.24060370

>>24060262
Only because the tech companies hide their revenue. Amazon makes way more they just reinvest it. They just posted a profit the first time this year. Revenue means very little in the scheme of things nowadays. This thread is about innovation and future growth. Walmarts growth prospects are not very good in my opinion.

>> No.24060386

>>24059801
>Did they not see what happened?
its a mixed bag and is complicated.
some people see. my boss, who went to bat for me to setup parallel project saw clearly.
his bosses however are pressured by other forces for inclusivity bullshit. eventually things like legal gets involved and things go sideways.
pretty much like same as regular world....at the small scale everything is fine and works good....as more and more (((stakeholders))) get involved they each need to push in their little bit of change and result is collapse.
On a larger note the problem is largely unfixable because the problem is "public markets". its not the fucking ceo's money. its not the exec teams money....its "shareholder" money that is being funnelled in by the truck load by 0% interest rates. so in the end the exec team opts to be diverse and get good twitter cred then actually focus on being productive

>> No.24060397

>>24060290
Didn't they have to ground a bunch of planes because of a programming error

>> No.24060408

>>24060262
>win power and money by hiring incompetents who crash and burn parts of the business
???

>> No.24060432
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>managerial class composed of clueless morons and sociopathic do-nothings leeching off of the productive
>slowly rots every established organization from the inside
>realize that they're under scrutiny
>let in more minorities
>half the people who care are now defending them because diversity, the other half are blaming the diversity for the institutional rot

You people are fucking suckers, you know that? They get you every fucking time and they probably always will. I'm not even made about it anymore, I'm genuinely impressed that the same trick has been working since the dark ages.

>> No.24060433

>>24060386
Are the Chinese on these board of directors just doing this to kill American business? Or is everyone just brainwashed?

>> No.24060446

>>24059600
To be honest the world monetary base is probably up 700%

>> No.24060457

>>24059600
>only argument is stock valuation
Case in point. Literally zero chance you are not a woman or a brown person. Only someone as retarded as them could say this

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>>24059634
Oh you must work there too. I came to post this. Did you like the nigger on the BNN with a tool belt wrapped around her yesterday?

>> No.24060466

>>24059966
Canada would disagree.

>> No.24060496

>>24060386
At what point do they realize their error. Or is America to politically correct that they run it into the ground. I guess we'll see public corps fail and the rise of more private enterprises hopefully. But kinda sucks for people who invest. ETFs are going to be the next bubble because of this. Google goes down and brings the rest of the fleet with em.

>> No.24060513

>>24059460
All of you are retards in an echo chamber

>> No.24060530

>>24060157
>marxist
Everything you posted is capitalist strategy, you really don't know what that word means do you?

>> No.24060565

>>24060408
They don't crash and burn parts of their business, what are you talking about? Are we talking about the same Google here? They practically have a monopoly and have deep control all over the internet.
>>24060370
But Waltmart is innovating though. Robots, AI, automation and of course their e-commerce. Amazon would have completely destroyed them if they didnt.

>> No.24060573

>>24060466
This is true. I guess socialism is just bad

>> No.24060583

>>24060433
Never underestimate the amount of brainwashed idiots out there that can ruin a good thing. Most corporate leaders are still boomers, who just have a very naive view of the world, or just don't care anymore because they're old and out the door soon.

>> No.24060593

>>24059634
GE

>> No.24060619

>>24060496
The brainwashing is too strong. Time and again the same people make the same mistakes and are incapable of seeing the cause of past failures.
>google goes down
We'll see. It may already have too much institutional power to die. Unless they actively fuck up their own business model (which is possible), they'll be around for a while just because they are a near monopoly with an almost unlimited amount of money to play with.

>> No.24060620

>>24060565
Isn't that whats happening. Walmart makes a good chunk of its money from ebt. I haven't been in a Walmart for years. I went in a Sam's club with my granddaddy a few years ago and the place looked ransacked

>> No.24060632

It's not about the "diversity" per se you can hire a lot of competent and effective visa hires to shore up your talent, it's when you start getting into SJWism and letting women divide and conquer your departments with their petty politics, which is what Google is doing.

>> No.24060650

>>24060583
Thats been my problem in recent years, overestimating people

>> No.24060663

>>24060619
I think it'll take like 20 years but I don't see Google future rn, beyond its original ad revunes + search engine

>> No.24060665

>>24059460
Poop farming. Men can poop more so its really just stupid hiring a woman for a mans job

>> No.24060682

>>24060565
>They don't crash and burn parts of their business, what are you talking about?
There are already examples in this thread of retarded diversity hires ruining entire departments and projects (and even literally crashing and burning a passenger plane). They are not increasing their own wealth by hiring these incompetents.

>> No.24060687

>>24060433
>>24060496
when interest rates are so close to 0% for so long, and fed keeps printing and printing, every single person must invest in "stock market" to keep up with rising cost.
this torrent of money gets funelled into to any company that has decent revenues and good story.
its so fucking ridiculous and sad. eventually it will fail sure....and investors will flock to china where they have "amazing tech and highly productive". and those tech teams will be 100% male engineers. no blue haired lesbians, transgenders, etc. those asian companies will be immune from twitter complaints because "thats their culture and we must be respectful".
i have no idea how we fix....to a certain degree white people are to blame.

>> No.24060714

>>24060632
I worked at Starbucks when I was a freshman in college. And I was the only male, well there was a gay dude. They just bitched about everything. I quit because I tried to take a weekend off but when I looked at the schedule it was booked the next 4 months by like the same 4 bitches. And when I tried to argue it I was told first come first serve. So I took off anyway.

>> No.24060737

>>24060466
alright, throw a capitalist republic in with it

>> No.24060747

>>24060620
The US as a country looks ransacked is the truth. It's in decline and China will gobble it.

>> No.24060748

>>24059600
Literally everyone is shorting them you retard. Prices are up because, surprise, they control the fucking internet.

>> No.24060783

>>24060748
If that was true, the stock wouldn't be up so much. Do you even know how shorting works? Retarded fag

>> No.24060801

>>24060682
>There are already examples
Yes there are anecdotes who could be completely made up too. Google isn't a failing company though.

>> No.24060810

>>24060747
The Chinese are impressively efficient but they seem to lack creativity. If they become dominant i doubt they'll innovate, it'll be a dark age.

>> No.24060826

>>24060687
>amazing tech
>china
topest kek. not to mention the risk having to deal with a corrupt communist party that can fuck up your business if someone thinks they can profit from it.

>> No.24060840

>>24060783
People can short across longer periods of time

>> No.24060855

>>24060783
Okay so not EVERYONE but everyone with the brain to see past next month

>> No.24060857

If one hypothetically want to assess the thesis of OP by creating a stock portfolio based on diversity management decisions, which companies would be at the top? I assume some mid and largecap european companies, redbull comes to mind?, pretty much all of us public traded companies have diversiry high on the agenda so yeah

>> No.24060860

>itt uh oh its not all white something must be wrong

why is it so hard for biz to fathom that a colored person or a lesbian feminist could actually be good at their job? sure most are probably idiots but same could be said for whites

>> No.24060891

>>24060826
I agree the system they have sucks for innovation and new ideas. They just copy the best from around the world. Which is a great idea for business espically when you can do it at a fraction of the costs.

>> No.24060900

>>24060747
I agree with this. It is because western men have been neutered and emasculated by modern culture. There are no good virtues that modern culture teaches, only decadence and individual pleasure. A sloth like apathy among a huge number of millenials and zoomers.

>> No.24060907

>>24060810
They work hard, they have discipline and are ultranationalistic. Their men aren't becoming trannies or getting high on opiates.

>> No.24060928

>>24060857
Maybe private industry will rise. Do privately held companies have to employ the rainbow?

>> No.24060935

>>24060860
No one says this is the case. It becomes a problem and inefficient when things like race are overvalued for diversity over competence, not that there are no capable individuals in any given race. That is what poltards think.

>> No.24060956

>>24060801
I know you are not a high performing individual in any STEM field just from this statement.

>> No.24060973

>>24060860
Thats actually not the point. The point is their being hired and promoted instead of better people based on their "diversity" for the sake of diversity. Like i would be worried if I had a black doctor because I know the bar is lowered. If the bar wasn't lowered I wouldn't care.

>> No.24060985

>>24060860
its not hard at all for me to imagine that. but you aren't understanding....these people are being hired because they are a blue haired les.....not because they are the best SQL engineer that could be found.

you seem to not understand whats going on

>> No.24060987

>>24060891
Not just for innovation. Tencents IPO, a fucking IPO that has been looming for years, most benign thing, just stopped. Why? Officially no communication or law cited by the party, inoffcially, some party fags forgot to fill their bags.

As long as the ccp reigns over china, its okay to have toys produced by kids but real investments, too uncertain do to political environment

>> No.24060988

>>24060593
You must be the GE anon that said this before. Innovation and cutting edge tech is a thing of the past when you can hire based off skin color

>> No.24061032

>>24060907
They have degenerates too, but they just hire the best no matter what. We don't we consider diversity when hiring someone which is anticapitalistic. Its almost insane that companies wouldn't hire the best people for fear of being called racist.

>> No.24061111

>>24060985

>.these people are being hired because they are a blue haired les.....not because they are the best SQL engineer that could be found

and how can you prove this?

>> No.24061201

I think people severely underestimate how much room you have to do stupid shit when you can extract rent from the entire world by having a monopoly on search. For Google especially, I'd wager over half the teams work on projects that don't end up with an actual product being delivered or updated.

IMO a significant factor pushing FAANG's move towards "diversity" is because the talent/intellectual capital, aka engineers coming from top universities and other FAANG/unicorns, is demonstrating that they want this "diversity". The bay area is full of people that are somehow both technocrat-libertarian and yuppie identity politics SJW at the same time.

The biggest companies being filled with useless middle management is demonstrably bad for them though, and its why the Googles and Facebooks of the world replace the IBMs and HPs, before they too eventually get replaced.

>> No.24061204

>>24061111
Because company are suddenly hiring these people in the last 5 years while there has been a social and political push for it from the far left. Its also obvious to people who have worked at companies. Where are the companies created by these people?

>> No.24061244

>>24061111
Open your eyes and ears then close your mouth. You are brainwashed and no arguments or proof will work on people like you.

>> No.24061253

>>24061201
All their projects of the last 5 years have failed. Maybe not the pixel line which aren't really comparable to Samsung and Apple but charge the same. Stadia, Google lens, all the Google play apps, hangouts, their social media network. I'm pretty sure there's a whole site dedicated to it.

>> No.24061263

>>24060928
I cant speculate on them!

>> No.24061271

>>24059600
They're up 130%, basically only as much as the whole NASDAQ index
Literally the definition of mediocre growth
Compare to AAPL MSFT and AMZN all comfortably at 300%+

>> No.24061336

>>24061111
>and how can you prove this?
checked.
when hr gives your team a very low diversity score and told you need to improve it.
you put an ad out to hiring agencies and every white/asian male that comes in is rejected and if you can get female/ alt-sex you are getting a 2-for-1 token to bolster up your "team diversity" numbers.

are you not aware that these diversity quotas are explicit policies that force white/asian males to be rejected?

>> No.24061354

>Ctrl-F: Mozilla
>0 results
>be disappoint

>> No.24061409

>>24061111

jew.

>> No.24061413

>>24061253
I don't think that whether or not Google successfully penetrates any of the 12 new markets they're trying to get into matters very much. Their only real flaw IMO is that they sit on cash unlike Amazon. Regardless of what gimmicky products and research they sink their money into, having a monopoly on search means they can do whatever they want. They're the most desirable big company in the world to work for aside from maybe some HFT firms, and it'll probably stay that way.

>> No.24061460

>>24061111
at the agency level we were told explicitly by Apple and other faang-likes that we needed to submit full photos and bios of our top level leadership to be considered for future work. they didn't say we needed diversity but we decided to hire several PoCs and gave them meme-tier positions. We were then awarded the work. This is the trajectory we're on.

>> No.24061490

>>24061336

isnt that just smart business to not have an all white male team though? If youre designing a product it seems like it would be advantageous to have someone from every background included if only to better market it towards each group. If you can get someone who does that and is also good at the technical side of things then even better

>> No.24061523

>>24059558

It's partly diversity and wokies. Partly women (esp women managers). Mostly what's actually fucking these companies to the point of catastrophic failure though, is bindis.

Bindification has been the most direct cause of many high profile corporate failures recently.

However:

>>24060432

This anon has it right. Peel the onion another layer and you find: it's management, and managerial-ism that are ultimately culpable for all these issues. They are not involved in the day to operations of their own companies and usually did not rise through its ranks. They are an incestuous, unaccountable, and nepotistic caste unto themselves who flit from company to company to squat on different piles of stock options, before visibly fucking up and then every one changes places to go sit on a different c-suite.

They have no vested interests in the long term health of the companies they run, only short term profitability and their stock options. They chase cost cutting to pump their paychecks, and socially fashionable memes like diversity to keep the heat off their backs, and paper over any negative consequences with various financial shenanigans.

Peel back the onion yet another layer, and you realize said financial shenanigans almost always boil down to cheap debt. Cheap debt drives stockholder mania for pumps without care of the long term, and allows management structures which should have long since been dumpstered to keep plugging along hoovering up ever more resources into these bloated juggernaut zombies like Boeing, Intel, etc.

Monetary policy and government intervention has fucked a lot of things up. We are not a capitalist society anymore to any real degree. The visible rot of companies is just surface level symptoms of the deeper issues.

>> No.24061544

>>24060027
That's just a focus on Tesla's dutch plant. Lmao

>> No.24061546

>>24061490
>If youre designing a product it seems like it would be advantageous to have someone from every background included
yes, perhaps you should start a basketball team and you could intentionally hire disabled and short fat people to provide a different perspective and unique viewpoints.

>> No.24061545

>>24061460
This mean atlas shrugged is going to happen

>> No.24061591

>>24059815
I think it was honeywell, or some other nuclear defense contractor, that had a shit fit when trump banned critical race theory as a criterion for government contractors, and a large portion of the remaining white male engineers quit as a result. Long story short: our nukes don't work reliably at best, and may not at all at worst

>> No.24061620

>>24061546

You must have never heard of Muggsy Bogues then. His 5'3" height was actually an advantage in the NBA. But yes I understand it depends on the product you are selling.

>> No.24061679

>>24061620
>Muggsy
he was black.
shouldn't we enforce white quota on nba?

>> No.24061719

>>24061679

>shouldn't we enforce white quota on nba?

perhaps one day we will. The nba is pretty diverse as it is

>> No.24061816

>>24061719
>100% men is diverse
ok

>> No.24061849

>>24061490
It's actually been proven that more diverse teams post better profits in business

>> No.24061916

>>24061620
Always point out the exception. Look at engineering classes they are mostly white and Asian the companies should reflect this but they don't.

>> No.24061975

>>24061719
Diverse just means black to these people. There are very few Asians and Mexicans. What about these all black movies are they diverse?

>> No.24061984

>>24060386
And because public companies are legally required to not discriminate, or even have the appearance thereof, especially if they want to win any government contracts

>> No.24062002

>>24061849
Ok then show us examples. You can just make a statement without backing it up with evidence or logic. I learned that too in college doesn't mean its true

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>>24061204
>suddenly hiring these people in the last 5 years

>>24062002

see pic for last 5 years

>> No.24062217

>>24062002
This isn't rocket science. McKinsey has done thorough studies on this over the years.

"Our 2019 analysis finds that companies in the top quartile for gender diversity on executive teams were 25 percent more likely to have above-average profitability than companies in the fourth quartile—up from 21 percent in 2017 and 15 percent in 2014 (Exhibit 1)."

" In the case of ethnic and cultural diversity, our business-case findings are equally compelling: in 2019, top-quartile companies outperformed those in the fourth one by 36 percent in profitability, slightly up from 33 percent in 2017 and 35 percent in 2014. As we have previously found, the likelihood of outperformance continues to be higher for diversity in ethnicity than for gender."

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/diversity-wins-how-inclusion-matters

>> No.24062218

>>24060860
I have worked with many very talented "diversity hires".
Diversity is great. Competence is greater. Diverse competence is greatest of all.
If you can't find diverse competence, and you have to pick between regular old competence and regular diversity, you should pick competence over diversity.
But companies in this position these days, for PR/political reasons, tend to pick diversity over competence. This is the whole problem.

>> No.24062234

>>24059651
becuz niggers and trannies

>> No.24062259

Cisco fired a shitload of their employees because they challenged BLM.

>> No.24062269

>>24062218
That's exactly it. Don't just hire diverse for diverse sake. Hire diverse TALENT

>> No.24062277

>>24062166
God your stupid. This was already discussed in the thread. Look at the next 5 years. They are not innovating and they're projects are failling. There is growth across the sector. Were talking about future growth and profits. Please read the whole thread before posting. Your clearly a minority or woman. The bar is lowered for you and we all know it so your not going to get respect. Let's see all those tech companies started by women and blacks. Oh wait they have to threaten corps to hire them instead of being hired on their own merit.

>> No.24062348

>>24061849
This is a straight up lie

>> No.24062356

>>24062217
Ok from 2016 on all corps have been doing well because the corporate tax was lowered it has nothing to do with diversity hires. I guess we'll see what the future holds. I know for a fact the women in my computer science class were not anywhere near as good as the males. There was only 1 black person in the class. There under represented in the academics and over represented in the corporations. Sorry still no respect.

>> No.24062358

>>24062218

>But companies in this position these days, for PR/political reasons, tend to pick diversity over competence. This is the whole problem.

Or perhaps its because if they didnt pick diversity over competence they would never hire for diversity ever, which would be a problem as well. My guess is they understand that both hiring strategies have their downsides, but reason that hiring for diversity is more profitable at the moment

>> No.24062406

Chinese are shitty engineers.

>> No.24062445

>>24060973
This is nail on the head. When I was younger, I wouldn't be worried about a black doctor. If anything, I knew they had more hurdles to overcome, so they would probably be extra competent.
I also knew because of these hurdles, some perfectly competent black doctors wouldn't make it through the system. That is obviously bad, because we need all the competent doctors we can get. So I think younger me, as well as most people, thought "we should get rid of institutional racism so we can have all the competent black doctors that we could".
The problem is that this task was given to absolute fucking idiots, blue haired trannies and SJW types, who didn't care about the "competent" part and saw their mission as simply cramming out as many black doctors as possible, competent or not. And that's why the west is ruined. Certainly not because of the competent black people, and not even by the less competent diversity - it's not their fault - but because we gave a little bit of power to these fucking bottom-of-my-shoe SJW HR "people" who we should trade to China in exchange for 3 pounds of rice. They legitimately consider diversity more important than competence, and for this they should be shot.

>> No.24062461

>>24062358
They're hiring diversity because they're are being pushed at a social level not an economic level. They are doing it to avoid the mob not because the people are competent. If they were competent then you wouldn't need diversity programs.

>> No.24062463

>>24062217
The most public and successful companies also have most public pressure to be "diverse".
I've learned not to trust these kinds of "studies", the more you look into the data the more they tend to show the exact opposite.
Global media reported on a study showing black job applicants got fewer callbacks than white people based on their names alone but in that study the best name to get callbacks was Ebony, the black names that sound like parodies like Shaniqua pulled the average down.
Global media still reports that the US police are more likely to shoot blacks, every time this is tested data shows they're more likely to shoot whites.
Global media reported right wing violence killed more people than Islamic violence, dig into the data and it turns out they defined any form of anti government activity as "right wing".

>> No.24062492

>>24062445
They have less hurtles tho. The myth is institutional racism. You can get way lower grades and be accepted to medical school if your black.

>> No.24062559

>>24062358
>Or perhaps its because if they didnt pick diversity over competence they would never hire for diversity ever,
That's what these useless HR people claim, and it is the entire reason the industry is going to shit in a hurry. The people who make this type of claim must be summarily exited from the business. There shouldn't be discrimination, in any direction, since that is just another word for "suboptimal allocation", but when we don't discriminate and get the competent diversity hires, we truly don't need to hire any more diversity to "compensate" for problems in society. And you know what, competence can be evaluated for a PoC in exactly the same way as for a white candidate, so we really don't have to pretend that we have to hire every PoC who walks in the door or we'd be missing the competent ones.

>> No.24062572

>>24062445
Honestly I feel bad for the competent black people they get dragged down but if your a c student and the medical school that just takes 4.0 GPA except of your black ruins it for the bunch. I won't use a black doctor because the standard for them to become a doctor is lower than everyone else. This is true across fields. Actually id want an Asian doctor because they have to jump thru the most hurdles.

>> No.24062606

>>24062217
I wish this study actually defined what "ethnic minority" is. A bunch of Koreans and Japanese will certainly contribute more than a room full of Somalis. Would an "ethnic" Pole or Russian be a minority in say the UK? That's the issue with studies like these that are intentionally vague to conflate the data.

>> No.24062620

>>24062463
People don't understand statistics its sucks you'd think Clinton and Biden winning in a landslide polls would show people but that would require them to use the past to see the future. Most people live in the moment.

>> No.24062651

>>24059664
Dude they had literal pajeets design the MCAS system that failed. This is not due to diversity though, it’s due to cost, and a belief by the management (of many corporations, Boeing included) that engineering is an asset like nuts and bolts and quality does not matter, only cost matters and any success or failure is due to management

>> No.24062665

>>24062606
I'm not sure "diversity" even includes Asians. The left in America doesn't like them so their not included.

>> No.24062692

>>24062461
>If they were competent then you wouldn't need diversity programs.
No we did, because we were missing diverse talent due to inertia and like-hires-like. The big problem was that we handed this task to the absolutely worst subhumans around, the SJWs in HR, who proceeded to make a mockery of the idea by insisting they had to overhire diversity to compensate. They are basically saying "you missed a talented PoC per year back in your racist days, to make this right we have to hire five PoC per year now completely regardless of competence". It's so mind-numbingly dumb, there's just no excuse for letting these "people" continue with their dismantling of the west. And in the end, let it be known that it was they, the SJWs, who ruined diversity in the workplace because they themselves were so racist they assumed they couldn't find enough actually competent diversity hires.

>> No.24062724

>>24062692
So what did they do, like hires like. Same shit different person except these people are under qualified

>> No.24062731

>>24062492
> They have less hurdles tho. The myth is institutional racism.
Yes, nowadays. It's an overreaction/overcompensation for the fact that it used to be the other way around.

>> No.24062791

>>24062692
I mean it'll work itself out but to everyone's detriment. These companies rules America, if they fail we do but i want them to fail in a way but I don't want America to fail. Shitty problem with bad outcomes no matter what.

>> No.24062814

>>24062731
What blacks used to be smarter? The bar has been lower in academics and its moved on to corporations.

>> No.24062826

>>24062724
> So what did they do, like hires like. Same shit different person except these people are under qualified
Yes exactly, which is why they (the SJW HR people) should be fired (both from their jobs and with a gun).

>> No.24062877

>>24062826
Ok so diversity hiring is a bad idea. I don't think business people are racist, most people want to make money.

By destroying these corps its going to cause racism because when/if these companies tank because of this, diversity is going to be to blame.

>> No.24062915

>>24062814
Black people used to have institutional racism working against them. Making this not so is in my mind a noble undertaking (good for the black people in question and good for society). However, going overboard in the other direction and making institutional racism work against whites instead is not noble, it just as dumb.

>> No.24062919

>>24062277
>calls someone stupid
>misuses both your and they're
ok

>> No.24062936

>>24060466
Canada is mostly pajeet now

>> No.24062987

>>24062877
>By destroying these corps its going to cause racism because when/if these companies tank because of this, diversity is going to be to blame.
Yes, and black people will be assumed incompetents for 100 years, these SJWs are doing diversity hires an enormous disservice by not giving them the level playing field everyone (PoC and whites) were asking for. If I were a PoC my main enemy numero uno would be purple haired HR ladies/trannies claiming to be "champions" for "my cause".

>> No.24063021

>>24062915
Forcing any company/institution to hire anybody is bad for the free market. If the diversity hires are just as good then the laws/rules wouldn't be needed. People are really racist today but this'll create racists.

>> No.24063051

>>24061271
>Compare to AAPL MSFT and AMZN all comfortably at 300%+
ALL of those companies do as much diversity hiring as Google
so again, what's your point?

>> No.24063053

>>24063021
Aren't really* sorry phoneposting and Samsung autocorrect is horrible

>> No.24063125

>>24063051
Google is by far the worst offender. Google has literally ran off all the autistic white/asian nerds, who you need to program because that shit is boring af and complex.. Amazon hires the best they don't give a fuck about race. Microsoft is kinda imbetween them, but recently they've been turning out better stuff. Well see

>> No.24063178

>>24061354
I don't want to jinx it, but have my fingers crossed that Mozilla is about to free-fall off a cliff and will never recover.

As of now it seems like they're tumbling down a hill.

>> No.24063202

>>24063021
Right, I'm not after advantages to whites, I'm after a level playing field. If the bar is the same for everyone I certainly wouldn't begrudge anyone their position based on pigmentation frequency of their skin. When I was young, seeing a black doctor was actual proof racists were wrong. Now it is not anymore.

>> No.24063211

>>24063178
Whats the deal with mozilla?

>> No.24063224

>>24063125
none of that is true at all, why are you pretending to know what youre talking about?
t. interned at google, passed a msoft interview and interviewd at amazon all in the last 4 years

>> No.24063240

>>24059815
tell me more about honeywell FMT, kansas city plant

>> No.24063260

>>24063202
How were they wrong affirmative action was in play when you were a kid. Unless your really old which I doubt the people who loved through that post here. The bar was lowered the racists were proven right be doing that. I get why it was done but it need to be taken away at this point.

>> No.24063298

>>24063224
I have family working at Microsoft, Altria, and p&j. Just because you interviewed places doesn't give you authority on them. Also none of them hired you. What race/gender are you?

>> No.24063323

>>24063298
P&g*

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>>24059815
>>24063240
pls gibs info on what you saw at FM&T, I even attached an image this time
t. DOE contractor

>> No.24063445

>>24063260
>affirmative action was in play when you were a kid
No, I'm over 50.

>> No.24063496

>>24063298
Okay and? I 've known people in Google, msoft, facebook, amazon, uber, testla, netflix, snapchat, lyft, and basically every unicorn in the valley, plus I work for one of the aforementioned companies.
They all have the same diversity programs, all of their recruiting directors/management rubberbands between different FAGMAN + unicorn companies every couple of years for bonuses. I can tell you know nothing about the industry

>> No.24063559

>>24063445
You outed yourself as a liar. Affirmative action started in 1965. 55 minimum so I doubt it. And you lived most of your life and all of your working/adult life during affirmative action. Also nothing to do with the point of the thread but if that makes you feel better on an anon board go ahead. You could be a 13 year old and I could be a trany.

>> No.24063629

>>24059600
doesnt mean anything when the usd is dropping and the only place people hedge is tech stocks.

>> No.24063644

>>24063496
So then make an argument? Your not proving anything your stating you know better with out expressing why. Make an argument or gtfo. All you saying is I know nothing and you know everything. You can't just state someone is wrong and not say why.

Your wrong because I say so is your current argument. If you truly knew these places then you'd be able to tell me why I'm wrong in detail.

I bet your going to say you dont have time to explain.
T. Full of shit

>> No.24063648

>>24059600
Then it's a bubble.

>> No.24063729

>>24063559
I grew up in a progressive European country, we were early but did not have affirmative action by 1965. Not even by 1985, which is roughly the times I'm alluding to when I said I was "young".

>> No.24063755

>>24063496
Also this is an anon board so you stating this shit doesn't mean anything. Logic reigns Supreme. I have no way of knowing your not full of shit. So nice try

>> No.24063758

>>24063644
already made my argument, youre just too retarded to notice. All of these companies have virtually identical diversity hiring practices, because all of the programs were made by the same group of people, who all move between these companies for compensation increases. You are arguing that Google does worse diversity hiring, which is why its only up 150% in 5 years (lol?), I'm telling you that Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft all do the same thing, and they've had larger stock growth in 5 years. You're talking yourself in circles and clinging onto anecdotes because youre not actually in the industry, plus none of the numbers youve cited even support your claims.
I can tell you were filtered by the technical interview process with an IQ this low

>> No.24063809

>>24063729
Dude I don't care about your personal past. This is an anon board, there's no reason I should care about stuff like this. Use facts and logic that's all we have here. I'm not going to argue with someone who could be just trolling, your nobody with no age, no race and no gender like every other anon on this board

>> No.24063878

>>24063758
Prove your in the industry since that your argument.

All companies are up, taxes were lowered.

Your argument is based on something you can't prove because this is an anonymous website.

>I'm telling you
"You" could be anyone so your argument is trash.

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The era for whites and pajeets over.

>> No.24063903

>>24060196
You can apply this to entire Western countries too

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>>24059460
Anon it's crazy in big corporates atm.

Doing actual work is almost frowned upon. I think at least 30% have a bullshit job. Also there is no hope in getting promoted if your a white ambitious male. I got denied a promotion this year because the leadership team wanted more females in their team, the roastie who got the job didn't have any technical knowledge or leadership experience. First thing she did als a manager was to give the actual performing white dude in her team all her responsibilities kek.

My team used to be all white males and two Asian girls. Atm the team consists mostly of roasties who always seek drama and don't want to do any actual work, an actual autist (the nose picking type), and two very mediocre males who are always sick due mental issues.

All the good white males have left, only reason I stayed is they literally gave me the leadership salary (although I didn't got promoted) because they are scared I will leave to.

>> No.24063940

>>24060290
This, retarded nigger Ethiopian pilots and retarded Indonesian gook pilots are responsible for Max crashes, just because they don't know how to turn off a simple feature which bugged a little.

>> No.24063943

>>24063878
>All companies are up, taxes were lowered.
Huh? All of those companies are up since 3 administrations ago, wtf are you even saying? Youre just grasping at straws at this point

>> No.24063978

>>24063809
I reported what times you have obviously not experienced were like. You're the one who don't get anon boards and are wasting time calling me a liar over unverifiable claims. I'm telling the truth, take it or leave it.

>> No.24064130

>>24063943
You just referred to the last five years. Now your changing the so called argument. Your definitely right were talking about the top corporations. Were also talking about the future effect of the more recent diversity hires. These companies weren't started by pink haired lesbians. Still no real argument.

>> No.24064168

>>24063940
They were dependent on the feature tho.

>> No.24064238

>>24063978
Ok verify your age and country of origin. You won't because its the internet. I'll leave it because I don't believe personal claims on any of these boards. You dont seem to understand what anonymous means. Thats means you could be anyone

>> No.24064275

>>24059651
Intel engineers in 2001 fucked up by making changes that guaranteed speed at the expense of security. 17 years later these security holes were found on every single Intel chip and they're exploitable, too.

So Intel had to introduce a bunch of mitigations that destroy their performance.

In 2007 AMD decided that the future of computing would be multitasking, so they made their CPUs with better parallelization in mind. Intel decided that the future would be a programs with one thread that barely use other cores so their multicore CPUs follow that.

These bugs are unpatchable and they need a new architecture, which they don't have. They're probably scrambling right now to make a new architecture from scratch that is performant, doesn't have the security holes of their previous architecture and takes modern software design into account.

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>>24064130
>Still no real argument.
Lol, I already proved you wrong, and your response was "prove youre in the industry bro I don't believe you!"
meanwhile you readily believe everyone else in this thread who has a story that confirms what you already believe, no questions asked. I'm sure youre not being intellectually dishonest at all bud.
All fields

>> No.24064503

>>24064296
Ok you claimed to be an insider. Most people here are just giving a story or opinion. You saying you know whats true because your an insider. And your not even giving any examples. I don't mind if some gives me their anecdotal experience. You could but instead you just stated you were an insider and knew better. I can tell your full of shit BTW. A tech insider using pepes, its shit like that. Also you fail to see the point of the thread which I restated in the previous response. The effect of diversity for future innovation and growth at these companies. While your just stating that the top corporations stocks have risen. We all know these are big companies anon, that's why we're talking about them. Maybe tell me your thoughts on how diversity will affect innovation and growth in the future.

>> No.24064565

>>24063051
That you're retarded for presenting 150% growth (wrong figure btw) as impressive.
Also if you have trouble telling posters apart there are these nice IDs, ask your tard handler to explain.

>> No.24064657

>>24060857
I worked at airbus till 3 years ago and although they had their handful of pajeets there was not really alot of focus on diversity as I see in the US.
It's just not talked and focussed about as much (still too much but less) as in the US.
The company was roughly 85% men of which 83% white men. Now this was in a department in the countryside though.

>> No.24064676

>>24064296
Also you failed to address anything in my previous post. Your a troll or just stupid. Go get your mom to cook you some tendies

>> No.24064764

>>24059460
the only people who are getting eaten alive are racist straight white men sooo who cares ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.24064791

>>24064764
and you'll never be a woman.

>> No.24064832

>>24064764
Of the corporations fail we all fail. If America fails your rights and diversity fail. The racism and seismic that you fear returns if this country fails because the rest of the world doesn't give a fuck about any of that and they will oppress you. And when you look to white males for help there will be none.

>> No.24064861

>>24064764
i wake up everyday thankful i dont have a low IQ because of my inferior genes like yourself

>> No.24064924 [DELETED] 

>>24064832
a tranny with a nuclear weapon will produce nuclear holocaust in this century.
if i do trips then this decade.

>> No.24064947 [DELETED] 

phew, no dubs or trips.

>> No.24065006

>>24064924
Troll, if not I hope you understand what the fall of western civilization means especially if your a "diversity" hire.

>> No.24065043

>>24059600
>stock go up
>therefor company is good
TSLA is up thousands of percentage points yet has never turned a profit

>> No.24065074

>>24059460
Boeing and other aerospace companies. I'm also seeing apple go down the tubes based on some of the people from my school who now work there with me. Additionally, just look at any tech company and tell me if there has been any serious innovation over the past ~10-12 years.

>> No.24065164

>>24059759
pajeets literally write the shittiest code. i'd rather hunker down and ball up than have pajeets write any of my software

>> No.24065165

>>24065074
I agree, I also think the tech innovation is being done in the crypto field. These companies need to start thinking about it or they get pushed aside. Atleast Facebook tried but everyone hates them. Google should be on the forefront of stuff like this.

>> No.24065253

Thankfully Fortune makes a list of this:
https://fortune.com/best-workplaces-for-diversity/2019/search/
They started in 2015 so maybe plot the 'best' and see how they have been performing.

>> No.24065311

>>24065165
I agree. I'm beginning to feel like crypto is the bleeding edge where the true innovation is going to come from. Getting in on that would be a dream. I've definitely been casually shopping for jobs in the space but its almost guaranteed I'll be taking a pay cut. Sometimes i think it might be worth it.

>> No.24065328

>>24065253
This is a great link anon thank you

>> No.24065352

>>24065253
ok. when the fuck are we shorting cisco?

>> No.24065364

>>24065311
It would be like joining Amazon or Google in the early 90s. Long run its a good idea especially if you get a piece of the pie. Also its risky because there are hundreds of major projects but only a few will come put on top.

>> No.24065385

>>24065165
Ironically crypto is the most male dominated sector in the tech world too. lmao

>> No.24065423

>>24065385
Makes sense most programmers are male.

>> No.24065483

>>24065385
that doesn't surprise me because of how important product and market viability is in crypto. HR, middle management, and everything else that brings muck into the design and development of an actual working and functioing platform/ product are distant afterthoughts

>> No.24065493

>>24065311
youre a little bit late, but still in the early majority. load up on BTC, ETH, LINK and whatever other shitcoins you want to gameble on. link should be most of your bag, btc and eth next. youll be good to retire in 5 years. i already have buying link in 2017.

>> No.24065499

>>24060565
i disagree with the premise of this thread but google does in fact kill shit all the time for no reason

hangouts, music, photo sharing apps, etc. i'm sure there's an extensive list somewhere online that will show this number of killed products is between 10 and 50

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>>24065253
I think of note is:
Hulu: 12% gays and 53% minorities
These are the top female companies (that arent in healthcare sector) on the 2015 list.
Only 1 (Marriot) outperformes the S&P

>> No.24065546

>>24065499
https://killedbygoogle.com/

This site says 219

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People here won't like it when I say this but...
I've come across a lot of mtf trannies that are very smart, for whatever reason. Every other demographic is a burden. It's not like they are KILLING companies, but they do stunt development and innovation.
Women on average are a lot less creative than men, but there's plenty of exceptions who are at the top of the game of their respective fields.

>> No.24065586

>>24065493
oh yeah, I've definitely been buying in though. I accumulated quite a bit during and after the corona crash after lurking here a while. I really wish I had gotten in earlier and not listened to a friend who fomoed into ETH when it was like 800 last bullrun and sold for a big loss

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>>24059460
Don't forget how they blew the launch of the first next gen console.
Charge a subscription fee, but charge full price for every game.
It can run any hardware. Only runs current gen titles with no raytracing to be found.
They knew they needed compelling exclusives to sell the console. They went with GYLT.

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>>24065516
Here's the top 20 of minority companies.
Only Marriot and carmax match the S&P

>> No.24065627

>>24065568
I don't think people should be discrimated against anyway. I bet there's plenty of people of all races and genders that are innovative. I just don't like laws and corporations forcing it. It would suck if someone else got your job over race/gender/creed. I want it even across the board. Equal opportunity not equal outcome.

>> No.24065651

>>24065627
Yeah I agree

>> No.24065661

>>24065610
I actually use the Microsoft version with my phone and its great but I would've never bought that. I think Microsoft it going to kill it with their game streaming. I just beat halo 3 on my phone last week it ran perfectly. The idea was there but the execution on Google part was terrible.

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>>24061591
a large portion of white male engineers working on (actually) critical national security did not quit because of bullshit like "critical" race theory, which is divisive and oppressive bullshit

>> No.24065691

google is just coasting on past sucess
women and niggers will be their demise

>> No.24065695

>>24065627
exactly. true meritocracy. the postmodern idea of total relativism in all aspects of life is completely incompatible with a free market and when the free market is blamed and called racist it's just absurd

>> No.24065709

>>24065568
I don't doubt it. Being a tranny requires a cocktail of mental illness, but things like autism are often in that mix too. Savants with a lot of baggage.

>> No.24065763

>>24063809
stop being a faggot

>> No.24065773

>>24059460
The corpses of the old masters will be the food the new ones

>> No.24065780

>Ctrl + F
>See Mozilla

Still a board to be proud of.

>>24063211
Tranny developers fucked the browser up just so, so badly in the past several months. Especially the mobile browser. Down to 3.9 on the app store.

>> No.24065784

>>24063878
Reddit spacing faggot

>> No.24065789

>>24065709
Being a trany was a severe mental issue, along the lines of personality disorder and schizophrenia until less than ten years ago. Society has failed these people by letting them mutilate themselves. Its kinda fucked up but it seems evolution has found a way.

>> No.24065803 [DELETED] 

>>24064130
>>24064168
>>24064238
faggot

>> No.24065810

>>24065784
>>24065763
Great

Points

Really

Appreciate

Your

Input

>> No.24065844

>>24059460
Searched ATVI, Activision, and Blizzard, and no mentions of it, so I'm going to go with that.

>> No.24065858

>>24065568
>on average
>plenty of exceptions
pretty much this should be the end of the discussion right here. On the one hand there are diversitards who think injecting more brown queer vaginas into an organization magically makes it work better. On the other side are angry idiotic white males who use vast sweeping generalizations to characterize all women and minorities as emotional and stupid. Stuck in between are a vast number of smart, creative, stable exceptions to the rule of 'x minority is on average less y' who just prefer to be able to get a good job and contribute their talents without having their achievements deligitimized and called into question by way of hiring quotas. If I was a smart brown person I would be campaigning to end all affirmative action because nobody is going to take me seriously so long as there is a sliver of a chance that I got my position because of my skin color. The worst part would be not even knowing myself if that was the case or not.

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>>24065810
F A G G O T
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>> No.24065973

>>24065858
Yet they're campaigning for more not less. And I doubt they care because there getting position they otherwise wouldn't have gotten. Why aren't women and minorities (not included asians) making crypto start up. Sure there's a few exceptions but most aren't and only hire the best because they are not publicly traded. Its clear who's good at programming. Look at any university's cs class

>> No.24065993

>Predictors of success
>Large, gender-diverse and racially diverse team with a range of talents, rather than an individual entrepreneur
Graduate degrees
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrepreneurship#Predictors_of_success

It's like you guys haven't even read the wiki for success

>> No.24065999

Watch out for other defense contractors that are literal “whos” especially when it comes to prime/sub relationships. I’ve seen it on the “green” side where the prime will be some female/minority “owned” (placeholder) business and since they meet the SBAs certification for a female owned or minority owned business X appropriations are set aside for them for contracts. I saw a USCG contract years ago went under. The literally “who” no name defense contractor that partnered with a bigger, slightly more well known firm just stopped paying their employees.

I was a prime/sub. So the prime bidder to the USCG was that no name business and they were awarded X to hire, staff, preform that contract and half way into it they just took the money and ran. They paid their employees for about half the year, and after the business mysteriously folded and the sub, a better known company had to pick up the pieces and was essentially in a position to strong arm the government for some sort of breach of contract.

>> No.24066062

>>24065993
Where are the start ups then? In the last 20 years, where are they? They seem to only apply to large already established tech companies. List some innovative startup that are fully diverse? I'll wait...

>> No.24066089

>>24065810
Go back, tranny.

>> No.24066092

>>24065999
Sounds like some real capitalists have figured out how to game the system. Good for them i don't want this shit mucking up our defense tech.

>> No.24066103

>>24065568
>a lot of mtf trannies that are very smart, for whatever reason
>mtf
>for whatever reason

I wonder what the reason could be

>> No.24066138

>>24061490
That's what product testing is for.

>> No.24066171

>>24059966
Australia?

>> No.24066207

>>24066062
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marenbannon/2020/06/25/rising-startups-to-watch-with-diverse-founders/?sh=1cb3f43f330d
literally everywhere

>> No.24066230

>>24065546
jesus fucking christ, i way lowballed it...

>> No.24066237

>>24064238
>Ok verify your age and country of origin. You won't because its the internet. I'll leave it because I don't believe personal claims on any of these boards. You dont seem to understand what anonymous means. Thats means you could be anyone
I already have by means of stating facts that anyone of my age and origin know to be true. Unless a Nordic oldie pipes up that I'm full of shit, you have no reason to doubt what I have said. But I think you don't get the nature of an anonymous board: I don't give a shit if you believe me or not, which is why I'm unhindered in telling the simple truth.

>> No.24066254

>>24066207
I'm referring to a start ups that became successful. Like Facebook or chainlink. Anyone can start a business.

>> No.24066276

>>24066237
You can Google that stuff its pretty easy. Also it's an anon board just stop. No 55+ year old would do all this shit. Stop trolling

>> No.24066286

>>24064275
Too bad they have more business types in management than actual engineers. Intel is the new IBM. Stagnant dinosaur that doesn't innovate.

>> No.24066292

>>24066207
Please save this link and watch what happens to these companies.

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>>24066207
This is gold, these are some trash ideas. Great link anon

Fucking poetry

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>>24065661
This is why exclusives are critical for any sort of a new console launch.
If they had anything worth playing, I would've bought it.
They could've just remade hotline miami in 3rd person with fancy pants graphics, then BANG it would have some sort of user base.

Even if they provided a better streaming service than xbox, we wouldn't know, because there's no reason to try it out.

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>>24066327

>> No.24066396

>>24066332
Your right i wouldn't have bothered. I think Microsoft just made it convenient. I already had a controller for my pc and I had game pass so I just needed to buy a clip for the controller. My cost of entry was $10 bucks so I tried it out

>> No.24066407

>>24062217
Companies need an excess of resources in order to have diversity and inclusion programs. It's not surprising that large, profitable enterprises have bluehair trannynigger Chief Diversity Officers.
Also
>McKinsey
Literally globohomo hitmen whose entire business model is parasitizing profits in exchange for advice which doesn't work. These fags have a vested interest in pushing the diversity agenda because it gives them something to advise on where it isn't immediately clear they have nothing useful to say

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>>24066358
Almost all of these would be better non profits.

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>>24066415
This is embarrassing, none of these are remotely profitable

>> No.24066455

>>24059966
Checked, but you need to add the parameter that this country of whites and Asians doesn't have the liberal mind virus. God damn, a right wing hapa ethnostate would be so amazing I can barely even stand to think about it in comparison to this gay world.

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>>24066440
Last one I promise

>> No.24066486

>>24060196
The titanic hit an iceberg

>> No.24066588

>>24066486
>the titanic is said to have hit an iceberg
fixed that for you

>> No.24066672

>>24065568
I'd so far as to say mtf are disproportionately selected to have really high IQ. The only two trannies I personally know are S tier researchers.

>> No.24066687

>>24066276
I said 50+, but you're wrong, just give up. The fact that you have no idea what the world was like before you were born doesn't mean people telling you what it was like are trolling, also I've been online since you were in diapers and this is one of the few places that remain for free speech on the Internet, people who have been around for a long time come here.

>> No.24066729

>>24065568
no cap, i think it takes some serious mental fortitude and balls (lol) to both understand your brain feels at odds with your body and to take a jump that almost all of society will shit on you for, all for the sake of feeling comfortable with yourself

not saying all trans people are geniuses or anything, but it doesn't surprise me there are some really smart people in that small demographic

>> No.24066743

>>24066687
A 50 year old arguing he's 50 on an anon message board. I hope your telling the truth, fuck off. Participate in the thread or leave i dont belive anything you say. Stop trying to affirm your age on an anonymous board. If you can't see why thats stupid go to reddit or post on quora.

>> No.24066796

>>24062217
Top corporations operate with the margins of literal money printers

They can afford to virtue signal with a ton of diversity hires, because there is that little pressure on their business. McKinsey didn't determine causation.

>> No.24066812

>>24066672
because trannyism affects two kinds of people, grifters and autists.
grifters because it's easy social validations for them and open gates in society they wouldn't be allowed through otherwise thanks to political correctness, and autits because they are brainwashed into thinking they're girls.
The ones that kill themselves are often post op autists, the autists that don't kill themselves or fall into destitute madness have very high IQ and are basically unleashed.
The grifters work in media/politics/HR or do low level grift like income leeching off vulnerable people (see Briana Wu).

>> No.24066839

>>24065568
Genetically high IQ people are also more likely to have schizoid disorders (gender dysphoria falls under schizophrenia)

>> No.24066983

> be me
> Work for massive consultancy
> Excellent performance reviews
> Sold at 2 grades higher + do the work of someone 2 grades higher for 1 year now
> Pull long hours cucking for the wage
> Bring in the company $100s thousands of dollars profit
> Stock at all time highs
> Massive dividends. Share buybacks. Pipeline strongest it’s ever been
> Appraisal time, perhaps some better market-rate compensation
>....
> 4% Pay Rise
> 0% Bonus

Fuck being a white male anymore. Going to change my diversity information and embrace the ‘he/him’ tag profile, it’s my only hope of fair compensation

>> No.24067087

>>24066983
Help grow a smaller company that will compensate you and relies on you more. Hopefully one that'll let you grow with it. You may take a pay cut initially but if you join a fledgling company and if it grows you could make a lot. Kinda risky though but better than being discriminated against.

>> No.24067214

>>24061984
>legally required to not discriminate,
Nigger what?? These laws are literally government-mandated discrimination.

>> No.24067906

>>24059558
I wish it would be really true.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMvjeBFFYU

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>>24059600
Dilate tranny

>> No.24068676

>>24059966
Singapore

>> No.24068695

They chased off all their talent (see the memo the guy got fired for a couple years ago) and replaced it with nigger kike wamanz culture.

Go figure they don't innovate anymore, the average employee's IQ got halved.

>> No.24068702

>>24059966
Singapore

>> No.24068782

Tl:dr. The problem isn't diversity itself. It's when they prioritize diversity over competency. There are some really talented minorities our there, but you can't hire a whole team based on that

>> No.24068785

>>24061523
Excellent point. How do I bet agianst companies that are using cheap debt to buy back shares and for companies that are investing in innovation and genuine progress ?

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>>24066983
Wagecucks get what they deserve. If you were actually as intelligent and useful as you think you are, you'd just start a consulting firm with what you know.

>> No.24069095

>>24067087
All new companies are hit and run startups trying to make it before cashing out bigtime to some corporation.
You can get very rich with the stock.

>> No.24069490

black dude here. being a diversity hire has worked out great for me. I started two months ago and already banged 6 white girls in my office. meanwhile i hardly do any work and some white cucks do 90% of it. now is the age of the BBC and you white faggots better get used to it.

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>>24069490
You will always be a nigger. By the power of Kek, your ID will always reveal your true color for the rest of your days on 4chan

>> No.24070023

>>24059460
Embrace the decay of our dying civilization.

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>>24059460
Threads like this make me so feel so glad to work for a small firm. Don't make as much as some of you MEGACORP INC. fags but I also don't want to rope on a daily basis.
>Work on all white team
>Leaders all Christian family men
>Provide services to MEGACORP INC.

I see so many clients that have outsourced their IT environments to pajeets, it really is an epidemic. Some pajeets are OK to work with, but the difference in quality is undeniably noticeable. It really is an epidemic.

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>>24070192
Cope you’re still a wagecuck.

>> No.24070452

>>24070329
Nice wall of text NEET faggot, I work from home and shitpost for a majority of the day while collecting checks.

>> No.24070789

>>24066743
holyshit anon you're a faggot just shut up

>> No.24070965

>>24064832
imagine being this much of a cuck