/biz/ - Business & Finance

a relic from 2017
never mooned
never flatlined
a true anomaly

>>23956999
Useless coin. Still 600% overpriced (or more)

Mine Safex.

>>23957452
What's safex?

>>23956999
investing in BAT is not investing in Brave
monthly payouts are centralized and do not actually send BAT to your wallets
tips that you send are done the same way
nobody worth anything is ever going to make BAT their main source of tips
so useless its been used more for staking to accumulate other coins instead of its intended purpose
LINK whales control most of the supply and use it to bait newfags into wasting their money on something that will 10x max while other shit 100x's every day
most people would rather payouts and tips in ETH if offered as an option which brave has alluded to multiple times
Eich not only donated to anti-lgbt proposals but now claims that COVID doesn't exist and openly says so on twitter, meaning he has zero friends in any powerful positions and multiple very powerful people who want to see him fail very badly, including the owner of twitter and facebook
both of these sites will implement their own version of crypto tipping as soon as it becomes relevant leaving Brave as the most useless download anyone could bother with
completely failed experiment.

>>23956999
Spyware

>it's an ad-driven browser that panders to advertising agencies with a blockchain-redistribution scheme while pretending to be ethical by hardcoding deprecated web extensions into it's core (https everywhere & adblock plus)

>and contains a ledger system that measures user attention aggregate to accurately reward publishers.
https://basicattentiontoken.org/about/

>The Brave browser knows where users spend their time, making it the perfect tool to calculate and reward publishers with BATs.
https://basicattentiontoken.org/

https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html
https://hub.packtpub.com/brave-privacy-browser-has-a-backdoor-to-remotely-inject-headers-in-http-requests-hackernews/
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/facebook-twitter-trackers-whitelisted-by-brave-browser/
>>/g/thread/S69748437

>the data is stored in-browser
https://twitter.com/tomscott/status/1085238644926005248
https://bitcoinist.com/brave-browser-donations-not-optional/
https://mobile.twitter.com/tomscott/status/1076160882873380870
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999
https://np.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/ap9149/brave_privacy_browser_has_a_backdoor_to_remotely/eg6vckb/

>uses open source, fucks over anyone who forks from them...
https://decrypt.co/35146/brave-forces-rival-browser-braver-change-name

>The browser sees everything you do, including actions to stop that annoying phenomenon of retargeting where an ad chases you around the Web, often for something you just bought or decided not to buy. We keep user data out of our cloud Brave Vault by default.
https://brave.com/blogpost_1.html

>Brave has been redirecting searches to crypto companies to affiliate links that give it a commission.
https://decrypt.co/31522/crypto-brave-browser-redirect

>>23956999
Yeah don't buy OP. You and the rest of the genius in this thread have seen through Eich's ruse congrats go buy Chainlink many happy returns.

>>23957564
Stored locally.

>>23956999
Anyway, OP. If you want to be "sold" on it you should see above anon's FUD and consider that it is going to be profitable in the mid to long-term regardless of that particular brand of autism.

Think about it this way: the success of BAT is dependent on Brave in the same way that Windows is dependent on people that legitimately liscence their software.

People will pirate and even create their own images of Windows to remove the bunk and telemetry. However, the product "as-is" from a consumer standpoint is enough to make a humongous amount of sales and profit.

In the end I cannot in good conscience 'sell' BAT to you - but that goes without saying that it has a trajectory of profitability in the future because of their approach. (And another Windows comparison could be their embracing bash... It seems to be working in their favor.)

Lol at all the FUD in this thread.

Just to give a bit of perspective. Twitter had a $1.2B valuation in 2009 with 18m users and no revenue. Brave has 20.5m with users that are much more valuable. Sitting at a $280m valuation. Theres a massive gap to fill and brave runs their business much better that twitter.

to be honest I think BAT will actually run to new ATH but it just really really looks like shit RN.

BAT X Apple 2021 , get your bags loaded, BAT will unironically be $7 eoy 2021

>>23958823
BAT is the most undervalued crypto that is close to success, and people are betting on overvalued tokens that are more than likely going absolutely nowhere. Whats that saying? You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink.

>>23959080
How do you measure value?

>>23959471
The same way they have been doing it for hundreds of years. Cost per customer acquisition, lifetime value of customer, current customer base size, projected customer base, projected future market size and penetration.

You don't have to look very far. Just take a look at dogecoin compared to BAT. There is your signal, drown out the noise, profit.

>>23959659
What's penetration?

Do you have any sources on the numbers or is this an estimate?

>>23959806
Im not going to spoon feed you everything. Im not a paid analyst putting together financial reports, and I don't have all the paid subscriptions to market data that they have. Im just doing ballpark estimates on what is readily available data. Whats frightening is people are putting more faith and stock into crypto startups with zero data.

I can quickly go off similar companies like twitter that had funding rounds with comparable user sizes. I can go further and further into it, but its a lot of work and even if it pointed to a 100x opportunity nobody on the ocelot milking forum would even care anyways.

>>23959985
Thanks bro, I was just trying to get some extra wisdom

>>23960041
I'm OP, switched internet

>>23958254
But the value of a twitter user seems comparatively higher? Still struggling to see how revenue per user can be extrapolated for Brave, since they can't sell customer data (I think)