/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23930151
it happened in russia

>>23930165
>>23930165
when? elaborate pls

>>23930151
In theory, but probably not. At least in the US.

>>23930151
This is why you need gold.

>>23930238

Misspelled guns

>>23930151
That would be the one thing that could actually start a civil war

>>23930250
Misspelled bio-weapons.

>>23930151
Government doesn't know I own crypto.

>>23930151
Everyone is just going to go along with it and commisar La-A the morbidly obese and pink haired becky the abortion clinic evader are going to efficiently redistribute wealth from billionaires that have most of their funds in places like the cayman islands and millions of people that make up the middle class?

>>23930238
if this scenario unfolds gold won't help as this will be seized as well... unless you stack it somewhere safe inside your place but there is always a risk of theft

>>23930215
im not a history buff i only heard about it i think actually from chico crypto but my understanding was similar to the uniswap airdrop russian citizens were airdropped equal number of shares in companies which paid dividends but they all ended up selling those shares for $1200 cash to the now russian oligarchs which the guy made the point is what people selling their uniswap airdrop are doing. So effective takeaway is russian gov seized companies, gave away, and someone other than original owner rebought now its their company.
The tax on property is the first step to us being greatly reset on. What happens when they add tax for all possession and eventually raise it to where we cant pay?

This is why you need Monero.

>>23930321
This.

And some side bets like ARPA

>>23930314
i also know about cases where USA gov siezed gold and the railroad industry if im not mistaken

>>23930151
>Everyone has to give away their wealth to the government

You realise the people that make these decisions will be the ones most impacted...

This will never happen

>>23930376
I hope so

>>23930151
Move with solid assets until there are no remotely free countries left or until my movement is completely restricted. Then just use the black market like everyone else in such a scenario.
>>23930238
>>23930250
Both. And silver.

You can't have your vax taken away anon. Just take them and your social credits will be back.

>>23930151
*laughs in XMR*

>>23930151
How will they take away something that only exists in my head anon?
You do know all it takes is you memorizing your seed and you’re set?

>>23930151
well then you don't cash out... you put your ubi into crypto

>>23930151
id take out my great shotgun and start blasting faggots until they take me down lol the "great reset" more like the greatest mass shooting u will ever see on minecraft

>>23930848
one of the cringiest larps ive ever seen

>>23930300
The billionaires are the ones pushing for this retard.

>>23931337
But why

>>23930151
This is a precedented scenario.
>wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102
They'll only be able to seize online wallets and centralized exchanges.
Anyone with any sense is keeping his money out of Coinbase etc. Bitcoin is traceable though and they could knock down your door and seize your hard drives.

Good news is that crypto will go up as it gets more rare and as the dollar goes to shit.

>>23930296
Lmao

>>23931431
Because they don't actually give up any assets. They get to hide theirs through companies and shell corporations, and get their payroll from banks through their line of credit. It's the same as any taxes, they don't pay a penny more. You do.

Dude if they go full communism there is nothing you will be able to do about it.

Full surveillance of the internet means you won't be able to use crypto. Precious metals will be heavily regulated, and using them on the black market will be considered tax evasion and will be made effectively impossible.

It will be worse than historic life in the USSR or East Germany, because the technical capabilities of the government to close loopholes and stop people operating outside the system are so much greater.

>crypto? Keep it, but you won't be able to use it without the NSA/FBI finding out, tracking your location and black-bagging you
>gold? okay, you've buried it in your backyard, but the sales tax is now 80% so you will lose most of the value if you try to sell it legally to a dealer and using it as currency without government permission is a felony
>guns? okay but under a Biden administration more and more states ban open and concealed carry almost anywhere outside your home and county sheriffs are authorized to confiscate if anyone makes a credibly claim that you're mentally unstable

>>23930277

As if anyone actually is going to stand up and do something. All these gun nuts are all big talk no action.

>>23931559
In the case of PMs, goldbugs always say the government won't be able to go door to door confiscating that shit.

Problem is, they won't have to. Their main objective will be *making PM ownership impractical and undesirable as a way to store wealth* to avoid a crisis of confidence.

Because stackers are still such a small percentage of the population, it will be SO EASY to do this. Like I said, just make it a felony to use it as currency and put some ridiculously high tax on legal sales. Sure, some people would break the law and others would bitch about it.

But because most individual Americans aren't PM stackers, the outcry would be minimal. In fact, because of the crabs-in-a-bucket effect, in the event of a future sharp fall in the dollar vs. PMs, it might even be somewhat POPULAR. The average person would see stackers as greedy speculators trying to profit at their expense and that of the country as a whole, and would be happy to see them get fucked over by the government.

>>23930349
The motherfucker Roosevelt, he didn't only seize gold but also silver. May he rot in hell.

>>23930238
FDR seized gold his first year in office.

>>23930151
>gee, what crypto, taxman? I lost it all betting on trump.

>>23931757
That’s why in those circumstances you go full mole. These scenarios always bring the rise of an enormous black market, nobody does anything “legally”

lmao retard if you don't sell or you buy back into crypto then you got nothing to worry there will always be a market to buy and sell things for crypto like it has been until now

>>23930151
>Basically communism 2.0
Find an other name for great reset. It's not communism if the rich get richer.

>>23931431
Capitalism died in 2008. They understood it in 2012-2013, when they saw that quantitative easing wasn't restarting Capital accumulation. Since they cannot maintain their position as a dominant class throught Capitalism, they are trying to push for a system where they dominate, but without doing it throught business. Basically, they want a system where no one owns anything, but they own everything. If one owns the means of production, whether it be fields, factories, medicine, one owns society.
They want the transitioning from Capitalism to this neo-feudalism, but most importantly, they want to stay on top after the transitioning.

>>23932279
at what point is the greed satisfied? after they take everything from everyone else the only people left to take more from are their peers

>>23932279
Some say the world ended when the mayans predicted as that was the year crypto was fully entrenched and couldnt not be adopted. Its not that capitalism is dead its that there is about to unfold a great wealth transfer to new elites and some old elites will become even more powerful. Agendas will change, propaganda will change, life and bartering will go on

>>23931757
In these countries there are always, ALWAYS massive black markets for the sole reason that they are the only way anyone can survive. See: Argentina, Venezuela, Soviet Union, Zimbabwe, Weimar Germany, etc.