/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23929969
Nonetheless this being accurate, I want to make a counter: BABA has too much power in China. Making anti-trust laws will only give way to BABA's competitors to rise up. BABA's upper hand was having a big fat share of stocks of most logistic companies in China, and thus making it harder for competitors to rise up. I believe that, surely, BABA is a great investment, BUT that investment probably have higher returns if done into Pinduoduo. Obviously, Pinduoduo has a much debt, but it's steadily rising in terms of popularity.

Who /bearish/ on the American middle class?

Good idea to hedge my March 2021 NIO calls with short terms puts into earnings? At its peak this week, NIO was up over 30% on the week and after the dip its up 8% on the week.

i want to be part of a meme pump and dump on /smg/ for once

just regard the buy as playing money and maybe have it moon

do you guys use stops on the meme stocks or do you just ride it out

>>23930157
No such thing as a middle class anymore after this pandemic bullshit. Middle class is dead and will never come back. We 2 tier society now.

>>23930157

under Biden? me

>>23930125
>Pinduoduo
It has already shot up from this though. Not sure if its safe to buy right now.

Surely we will be green Monday. There is literally nothing that can stop this market. All negative news has already been priced in.

>>23930193
>Trump pandering to the poor and low-wage cucks
>starts no wars: bad for defense stocks
wtf i hate Trump now

>>23930259

>>23930240
I completely agree with your point. It's a very risky stock.

>>23930259
never learn, bobo...

I work in the auto industry and I routinely get financial reports for carmakers ahead of embargo but I'm too scared of getting done for insider trading to ever capitalise on it desu.

>>23930267
>liberals played themselves by electing bad neo-liberal man because orange man bad
Americans get what they fucking deserve.

>>23930267

I mean yeah if you're a crony capitalist that can't see the danger in a progressively radicalizing and impoverished USA then sure he was bad for your short term stock gains. For those of us who would rather not see a desperate socialist revolution here we were liking the increased parity and peace.

>>23930295
Just tell your friend or something.

>>23930193
What was the number? If you're under 46 he's the first president in your lifetime not to start a war something like that.

>>23930327
it's not enough to succeed - others must fail

>>23930183
i dont use stops on anything, meme or not

>>23930355
>the breakdown of non-dysfunctional society summarized in one post.

>>23930193
>thinking that any president is going to go against major corporations.

NGMI. Right wingers think that the democrats are against big economies and leftists think that democrats have no impact on the economy, but are instead good "in the long run". Both are *almost*.

Democrats can do what republicans cannot because of A E S T H E T I C S. If you think that democratic presidents aren't still cucks for major corporations you are too caught up in your own ego to see it. Biden isn't necessarily going to help the same companies that grew under Trump (and believe me, we will hear about it) but he is definitely going to grow different companies. I'm thinking defense, housing, and healthcare will be the major ones to grow.

>but what about muh nationalized health insurance.

If you look into it at all you will realize that "nationalized health insurance" under Obamacare (which I have no doubt Biden will only make stronger) is just absolutely bonkers levels of good for the healthcare sector.

>everyone NEEDS to have insurance
>no increase in bargaining power
>insurance companies "pay" for more drugs (jk, it's still 100% the consoomer)
>healthcare sectors still allowed to charge retarded amounts of money for cheap products
>asymmetry of power between the consumer and the supplier only grows
>and so on

I'm telling you, Biden is not necessarily going to grow coal mining or whatever else Trump grew, but he is going to help fuck over consoomers in such a way that everyone is fine with it and stocks will rise.

I'm looking at dialysis, shitty housing trusts, and techno-dystopian stocks over the weekend to decide which ones I'll long for the next four years (or, at the very least, until Biden dies of being old as fuck). PLTR, unironically, is perfect under a Biden presidency because Biden's constituency (leftists) is much more chill about mass surveillance than Trump's (auth right).

>>23930355
okay Chang

>>23930476
based

>>23930435
>PLTR, unironically, is perfect under a Biden presidency because Biden's constituency (leftists) is much more chill about mass surveillance than Trump's (auth right)

What? In Europe it's the other way around. Also wasn't it Bush who made way for all the mass surveillance with the patriot act after 9/11?

China Mobile Puts (CHL stock)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-securities-exclusive/trump-administration-readies-crackdown-on-u-s-investments-in-chinese-firms-sources-idUSKBN27S2X3
Full list:
https://media.defense.gov/2020/Aug/28/2002486659/-1/-1/1/LINK_2_1237_TRANCHE_1_QUALIFIYING_ENTITIES.PDF
Ban comes into effect January 11
Statement released by China Mobile on 11/13:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1117795/000156459020053767/chl-6k_20201113.htm
>The Company preliminarily expects that the Executive Order may have an impact on the share price of the Company’s publicly traded securities.
(NO SHIT!!)

>>23930567
I also thought being against surveillance was a liberal thing back then but apparently they were only against it because Bush was president at the time and they love it and think it's great now.
c l o w n w o r l d

I NEED TO TRADE SOMETHING FUCKING HATE THE WEEKEND

>>23930639
Only reason I trade crypto

>>23930639
Shitcoins. Protip: Almost all of them just go down

>>23930627
>leftists being petty tyrants that want to micromanage the lives of ordinary citizens to the type of toothpaste they use.
>clownworld
I don't know chief, sounds pretty normal to me.

>Muh triple top
>Muh rally not sustainable
>Muh line go up so line go down now

red week coming up?

>buy stocks cheap
>sell them high
>outdo 90% of day traders
basado

The real question is when is the Fed going to unload Fedcoin on the general public.

>>23930627
This. Libs were "against" it because it was a republican president and big-dick moves like mass surveillance are perfect for republican aesthetics, even though they truly serve authoritarian (left or right) goals. Republicans pass bills that say "fuck you" to their "enemies" (minorities, libs, and everyone else outside their paradigm; Democrats pass bills that just further cuck Americans, but are really high minded and nice about it.

Again, buy stocks that will cuck you in the long run. Government backed companies especially: student loans, housing, healthcare, corporations that are "too big to fail", they will all do well under Biden.

>>23930692
yeah, retarded bobos never learn

>>23930696
>>23930692

>>23930108
whys the footlocker logo so jank

>>23930708
>not buying and holding forever

>>23930766
>*shits himself*

What are the odds of PLTR mooning in the next three or four years?

>>23930567
Remember how Obama expanded the surveillance powers of the NSA and no one complained?

Here's some dark pool shit from Friday if anyone is interested.

I suffer from chronic depression. which tickers do you think could solve this issue?

>>23930839

$ROPE

>>23930839
SPY

Pizzahut has added beyond meat to it's offerings. Is nothing sacred anymore?!. WTF, my favorite thing is the stuffed crust. Reminds me of when I was a teen and they had the PSX demo disc deal. Buy a stuffed crust, get a demo disc. (There were 3 total discs to be had; I got all 3)

>>23930731
I dont get it. Are you suggesting that red weeks don't exist?

>>23930793
Where do you get the option trades from?

>>23930793
why would anyone care about off-market trades. i've come to the conclusion that only because it sounds mysterious that people are interested

>>23930871
first, nobody knows
second, it doesn't fucking matter
but if we dip, you buy

>>23930776
100%, just a matter of when

>>23930839
Just bee yourself

>>23930567
bush did a little bit, obama did a lot. I don't have a bead on biden but I know he authored the original senate version of the 94 assault weapons bill, so there might be some affect on gun stocks I dunno
>>23930852
>>23930860
this year has been so goddamn stupid. I can't believe you can make this kind of return in the middle of a pandemic while throwing darts at the wall using a bullshit broker editing "pies"

>>23930627
It’s important to note the difference between neoliberalism and leftism. Actual leftists (e.g., Chomsky) are against mass-surveillance. Neoliberals and neocons pretty much have the same domestic and foreign policies. Neoliberals just present a “woke” veneer.

>Muh stocks only go up
>Muh absurd P/E doesn't matter whatsoever
>Muh line has gone up so will keep going up

>>23930717
This guy fucks

>>23930971

I'm a permabull, I am concerned about PE of certain shitty companies but I chose not to buy those companies and permabull other things.

>When you have one stock dumping so hard it evaporates all the gains you made on other stuff

>>23931042
BABA?

>>23930971
>Muh line has gone up so will keep going up
are you suggesting that the stock market will not be higher in the future?

>>23930979
im not denoting his celibecy... fuck how to spell it in english... so the man fucks! we get it! The validity of his statement makes me want to throw up... How can you further encourage more of this and use words like "big dick moves" to justify it? don't give me history don't change the past, change your self and change the future.

>>23931042

What is diversifying?

>>23931054
I am only suggesting that being permabull or being permabear are both equally retarded in the short-run.
You need to be willing to adjust positions based upon the data available to you
[yes, in the long-run, of course permabear is more retarded than permabull]

am i the only libertarian with a fucking voice... they're giving up their rights right now.... I hate it, I will never turn my back on the American people, and hope you all have a good day.

w-when do i sell bros?

>>23931051
You got it
>>23931100
I am diversified. Doesn't help when one part dumps 20% and the rest goes up 3% though.

>>23931112
Now

>>23931102
this
in general it's a good idea to err on the side of 'what goes down must go up' and buy cheapies, but you have to be ready to cut losses and not fall for HODL

>>23931111
damn that's my second quints this week... im going to saturday catholic mass.... I'm going to pray.

>>23931112
Sell when insiders can dump their shares or at the very least hedge with puts.

>>23931102
>You need to be willing to adjust positions based upon the data available to you
nah, you can't out-maneuver the market in the long run

I'm thinking of a way to boomer invest with leverage that's disciplined and blind to emotion.

I was thinking that on the 3rd Friday of March, June, September, and December, I buy VTI call contracts expiring 1 year out. They will be bought at a certain percentage moneyness (say, 15% OTM) every time, no matter what the market is doing. Even with all the crazy shit happening this year, VTI is up 11.12% YTD, a respectable return for a boomer portfolio even if COVID never happened.

Sell when one or more criteria are met:
1) A certain percentage moneyness
2) A certain percentage delta (if the delta approaches 1 you've used up the leverage)
3) A certain amount of time is left in the contract (worst case if the market goes down while you held the contract)

As I write this I see that VTI doesn't even offer contracts 1 year out, so maybe replace VTI with SPY.

To decrease the risk of a 2% pullback and crab right after you buy, maybe every single Friday buy 1 contract for the next monthly that's at least 1 year out.

>>23931146
yeah, my plan was to accumulate on every dip until then (feb) then shave half my position the week before.

the million share ark buy complicated things, i believe, its pushing me to double down premarket monday instead of DCAing like i have been

>>23931180
>unironically larping as an algo IRL

You might make it.

>>23931112
Never.

>>23931164
>investing
>trading
pick one
There are a lot of people here on /smg/ that make a living through trading [not through investing]

>>23931180
it's pretty soliid... but what is the percentage of monies, delta doesn't apply to anything other than contracts and your whole statement needs to be reformed, since its fucking retarded and your shits all fucked up.

>>23931180
I was going with VTI first because it captures the entire equity market instead of just the top 500 in case there's a black swan of an "index bubble" popping like Burry warned about. However VTI liquidity is absolute shit if you look at the spreads. To buy 1 you'll have to meet the ask and to sell 1 you'll have to meet the bid (I've tried).

>>23931180
>I'm thinking of a way to boomer invest with leverage that's disciplined and blind to emotion.
Sell OTM calls and ITM puts
Buy ITM calls or OTM puts
It isn't rocket science. Buying OTM calls is lotto tickets. The house will always win.

I have 3k in GME at a 11 average. I am thinking of selling half to buy into PLTR when it hopefully dips next week. I wanted to then put money into my GME position to average down and build back up to 3k since q4 is a fair way away now and it’s likely to go down in the short-medium term. Would other anons recommend?

>>23931211
>There are a lot of people here on /smg/ that make a living through trading
nah, there aren't. there are people who live at home with no expenses that like to pretend though

any good podcast or shows you guys watch? I cutting back on the amount of time i pour into current events/politics and plan on putting my much of my time into the markets... Just need a base and learn all the terminology.

>>23931140
Lol you are a massive faggot
Nice quads tho

>>23931042
Why anyone would invest in a Chinese tech stock in light of the current US presidential situation with its tech companies is an unimaginably incomprehensible play. It might just be so stupid and crazy that it might work.

>>23931180
>r
>>23931217
nevermind... my gookfu's mom passed away last night and im not thinking clearly.... im going to bring her to saturday catholic mass and hopefully they let us in as we'll be there ahead of schedule and if you need a 25% capacity at least we're in the front of the line.

>>23931252
Invest talk is decent

>>23931255
Investing in China is a great idea. Huge growth and some great companies like JD, Alibaba or Tencent.

The problem is all the trickery and fake stuff. Even Baidu makes up numbers to appear bigger. And then the party politics turning stocks into shitcoins pumping and dumping at a moment's notice.
Tencent could go up 20% on Monday if Xi says so. Or dump 50%, if Xi says so.

>>23931253
i post here... we're all faggots, i have a big heart... so big the doctors were befuddled and unable to do anything... so fuck 'em, let me die slow, and deeply i want my children to grow..... when i was a teenager... i used to dream of being 70 years old and knocking up a 17 year old and giiving her everything i had accumulated.... how my ambitions have changed... i know now i'ma knock up a broad who's older than me and pray for health.

>>23930906
>le dark pool
Literally the stock market equivalent of the super scary "Dark Web" that normies talk about and use in shitty sitcom dramas.

i was given a big heart, no wisdom teeth and kike heritage.... blonde hair blue eyes... ii have the world by the ass.... and it has been an amazing journey, but I am so in love....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzWGWQ0jUY0

it is so nice not to have to see what this subhuman has to think. I eagerly await the day he fucks off.

>>23930906
I just use it to get a feel of what the big boys are buying. I typically don't use it to make buying decisions, but I hoped on NIO cause I kept seeing nothing but calls, calls and more calls. Up bigly because of it, but probably got lucky.

>>23931405
you should look at the autism hes spewing right now. Pretty embarassing

>>23931428
Just filter him dude, no one wants to see what that fucking mouth breather has to say.

>>23931405
I don't think he thinks at all he just posts whatever nonsense enters his head at that particular moment without any filtering process whatsoever

>>23931042
this is why diversifying is a meme

just stick to the few picks you're actually certain about, don't buy something else just because it sounds stable or cool (better to just stay as cash to write puts)

Guys, I truly think PLTR will be around 150 in 5 years or less.
I was on the GME Train and I bought pretty early, but I see it going to $40 max and it will take a long time to do so. An infinity squeeze isn't in the MM's, Shorts, or Managements best interests.
I've been in PLTR for two weeks and I'm going all in on Monday.
George Soros just invested into it, he's an evil fucker, but you know what that means.

>>23931298
Amazing how you build up, then tear down your own idea with retarded logic

>>23931325
Dumbass... just have an ortho insert a sternum expansion in front and open up a few mm, you'll feel better.

>>23931458

he got btfo because he wasn't diversified and your interpretation is that diversification is a meme?
What's gonna dominate your rperformance is the unexpected ie the things you can't be sure about.

What dominated everyone's performance this year? the kung flu. something that came out of nowhere and crashed the market with no survivors.

Anybody looking at MOON? I like their exposure to PLUG and NIO

>>23930108

The bulk of my portfolios is 60/40 stocks bonds with appropriate weightings of US / INTL for both stocks and bonds.

401k is 60/40.

I'm just going to be diversified as much as I can and 60/40 historically has the best risk adjusted success (in case I have 'special' thing where I need to pull money out on a short term notice).

I don't let anymore than 15% of my portfolio go into individual stocks. I attempt to buy when I think the price of what I'm buying more isn't expensive relative to the future prospects - then I decide if it's IRA or brokerage based on the dividend alone as I don't like tax drag. So something like AMZN would be in brokerage long term and something like MO is in the IRA feeding a target date retirement fund dividends for the most part.

>>23931503
I think its easy to suggest heavy diversification when you're trying to protect and grow your wealth. If you have a small portfolio under 50,000, I'm not sure if it is worth it.

This tripfag is even worse than the real baggie

you guys havent been married and... my reservations are solid.... i live with this woman 6 years and we change together mutual goals and ambitions, i put some kids in her and stay with the whole family? that's how it's supposed to work?

>>23930906
>>23931375
>downplaying dark pools
>ngmi
40%+ of all trades are through dark pools
paying zero attention to dark pool activity = you are a mouthbreathing retard sheep
>not paying attention to smart/big $$$
>ngmi

>>23931503

401k is 60/40* domestic right now as the rest of the funds are high fees and pointless. Did have S&P 500 originally but transitioned with everything going on. Not worried about bonds dragging I still believe in the asset class diversification.

>>23931526
lmao at how /smg/ has a resident glowie who intentionally writes like a retard
just like brit/pol/

>>23931522

your thinking is all backwards. you should opt for diversified portfolio with good expected value and if you want more risk you should use leverage. this is much more succesful strategy than yoloing into 5 meme stocks.

>>23931492
everything dumped with kung flu, diversifying isn't going to help you with that
after that, continuing to diversify into garbage like oil and airliners that are fundamentally fucked this year would be the dumbest thing you can do

diversifying for the sake of diversifying is dumb in 2020
you can go back to dumping into VOO after 2021 or something when VIX goes back down under 15

>>23931550
I like to think most glowies on 4chan are chosen to go here because they're so stupid they'll never get red pilled. Like loyal dogs.

>>23931522

Ah I did forget to say that I've been fortunate enough to get past that mark.

Otherwise I'd say S&P 500 or Vanguard/Schwab/Fidelity low fee target date funds.

For me it's more about risk adjusted gains now as I do have a 'long term' ahead of me but also do side biz things where if an opportunity presented itself I'd like to be able to pull out money that is 'risk adjusted' versus being in a situation where I'd have to sell low due to even more volatility.

Good point.

>>23931405
I use to have him unfiltered to inverse his plays, but now I could fucking care less what this retard has to say. He said he was gonna stop tripping, that lasted like a day and posts like 30-50 times in a single thread. Hopefully one of these days he loses all his money and never comes back.

>>23931467
source on soros?

>>23931487
my lung capcity is higher than average... way above average... i crack my sternum... it's 3 bones... you don't take deep breaths and see how long you can hold it... probably never dove, probably don't understand when im not typing a message i'm on a phone and have everything until i crash... and when i sleep my gookfu snuggles up with me... when she's horny she gives me the reach around and arouses me i love making love to her.

>>23931572
nah they would be susceptible to leaks
they have to play a shitty persona like this guy does. You can guarantee that all of his posts will be reviewed in a debrief meeting later today and a carefully 'crafted'.

>>23931540
for every trade there is a buyer and seller. a transaction between two parties off the main market in order to keep the price stable is neither bearish or bullish. all of your posts ITT have been [retarded]

>>23931526
In my dads case he lives at his work and only came backa after a stroke from bad nutrition

>>23931575
Yeah, I agree with you. When I get to a point where I have a comfortable amount of wealth, I'll be focusing on safe plays.

>>23931428
made me look lel
it's just c r i n g e with some trying too hard to be schizo

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>23931582
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3636367-soros-exits-bank-of-america-jpmorgan-adds-palantir-disney-and-axalta

https://thefly.com/landingPageNews.php?id=3196536&headline=PLTR;MCHP;U;VAR;TDG;GRFS;BK;BAC;JPM;DHI;DRI;ARMK;GM;ATVI;PCG;TMUS;NLOK;PTON;C;LBRDK-Soros-takes-stake-in-Palantir-exits-TransDigm-position

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/jtwe80/pltr_soros_bought_18457516_shares_of_palantir/

Its now his 5th largest holding. That's insane.

>>23931582

>>23931565

>everything dumped with kung flu, diversifying isn't going to help you with that

yes but some things recoverd and other things didn't. if you were one of those people with a portfolio of oil, banks and consumer staples for divvys then you are permanently btfo. if you were diversified you end the year positive.

I'm not suggesting buying airlines I'm suggesting not let your years performance depend on one stock like that anon just did because what's gonna happen to any one stock or sector is impossible to tell.

>>23931614

>XBOX releases
>GME stock goes down
>PlayStation releases
>GME stock goes down
B-bros? How can we squeeze the bears if we are going down in price? They are squeezing us!

>>23931624
bloody hell he's balls deep

With institutional investors coming into PLTR will it really boom?

>>23931644
Its going to be a big part of the Great Reset. Can you feel it?

>>23931614
>>23931624
holy fuck its going to explode on Monday

>>23931640
>Kfyafliefi
wat

>>23931625

winner winner winner

something something first rule is never lose money anons!

>>23931582
https://fintel.io/sob/us/pltr

>>23931661
I can feel it, Mr. Krabs

>>23931591
"a transaction between two parties off the main market in order to keep the price stable is neither bearish or bullish"
False. Jesus christ.
>not understanding that you can look at the aggregate of buyers and sellers
>not understanding you can see if there is more buying than selling activity
>not understanding that you can look at calls to puts ratios
>not understanding you can look at increased puts
>not understanding that by looking at large trades conducted through dark pools in conjunction with other market data enables better understanding and ability to assign probabilities to events
You are a retard. You are actively trying to not pay attention to 40% of the market. To other people reading this - do not do this. Look at dark pool data. Add it to the indicators that you watch. Do not base your trading solely on dark pool data - but incorporate it into your calculus

>>23931649
Perhaps, but the investment just became 100x safer and a guaranteed longterm hold.

>>23931625
it's november already
im assuming this guy is crying about a loss AFTER march

I think my assumption is valid that he probably diversified into some dumb shit like AMC. I give enough credit to this anon that he wouldn't be crying about losing money on an airliner since February almost a year later

like i definitely know some retards here bought AMC, or even HTZ recently after being baited by the refinancing (that was supposed to help them file for bankruptcy lel, not save the company)

>>23931614
Wtf Soros, fuck off from our shit

>>23931644
Its the 5th largest position in his portfolio as of the 13F filing. As like other institutions in PLTR, average cost per share is $9.50.

>>23931624
Concerning and also bullish

I think you guys are being to hard on baggie. He's good entertainment for the weekends and he generally is this autistic during market hours. I also I'm under the impression that he is user the influence of something as he has been posting like this since last night. That being said, I'm gonna need you to post lewds of your gookfu.

>>23931696
it makes me glad to know that you're never, ever going to make it. there is nothing worse than a smug retard

>>23931468
>Stocks either have only upsides or downsides
There is no perfect investment.
If you want to invest in MSCI World to be "ultra safe" then sure go ahead. Biden could nuke Amazon or Apple to tomorrow, that's just the risk involved when investing in it and you have to see for yourself if that risk is worth the upside.

China is a market growing at retard speed. Not being invested there is just plain stupid. Just like not being invested in US big tech is.

If you in stuff that apparently only has upsides, that is called "a scam"
>>23931492
Diversification does not help when one tiny part of your folio loses 20% of its value in one go. The rest was up like 2% this week so all in all that just became a crab.
Meh.

>>23931700
I saw it was Soros and something about JP Morgan, was there any other money comign into PLTR I should know about?

>>23931752
Great refutation, great explanation for why you shouldn't look at dark pool data - I really appreciate that you refuted my argument so thoroughly, you clearly know what you're talking about

Alright weekend /smg/, help me understand why I would ever use funds in an HSA to pay for medical expenses when I could instead have this grow completely tax-free and submit receipts for healthcare costs after I retire. If I have the cash on hand to pay out of pocket, is this the best approach? It seems too good to be true and something that will be limited in the future.

>>23931696
That's why I posted it. Dark pool buys are just one indicator that can be used to slightly increase your edge when trading, but is completely retarded to buy/sell based completely on them.

>>23931298
I do agree that some gook stocks are great, I made a few bucks off the EV stuff but I dont trust them pumping higher than a few dollars. However, it was kind of obvious the tech sector was going to take a hit after what Twitter has been doing.

>>23931765
ark-invest bought 1milli shares for their most popular fund

>>23931750
>t. GCHQ

Hey anons

I was the faggot who told you all about MPLN on thrusday...did you make money? I did...was a nice 6% pop and fits into my new trading strategy ive gamed out which has been generating 2-8% daily gains with only a few losers.

Anyway...i got another one for you

Watch REVLON....watch it closely..bankruptcy is now odd the table and earnings were not that bad...the selling has slowed significantly here amd the chart indicates an upward push anyday now.

>>23931765
If Soros is in PLTR, at least you know that whatever PLTR is doing, it's evil as fuck.

>>23931776
I'm agreeing with you anon, and I appreciate you sharing the dark pool data you have available from Friday here >>23930793
The other retards in this thread arguing that you should stick your head in the sand like an ostrich and pay zero attention to 40% of market activity are who I am arguing against
>completely retarded to buy/sell based completely on them.
Agreed 100% - it should be taken with a grain of salt, but you should still incorporate it into your analysis

>>23931781
This BABA stuff was Jack Ma doing some retard stuff though. His fintech company Ant being denied IPO and then some comments to bring him to toe the line.

Has nothing to do with Twitter.

these are my top hodlings, am i gmi?

GOOG
MSFT
INTC
JNJ
RTX
KO
XOM
VZ
SPY

>>23931806

This will pop to $15 on any vaccine headline may not even need that...bitches and trannys need makeup. Always let the shorts and sellers overplay there hand before jumping in. Always

RKT vs Palandir?
Huxley's funtime zoomer mortgage app vs Orwell's big brother IT helpdeck.

Where do I put my cash?

>>23931765
Canada Pension Plan has 24 million shares, so they're confident in it helping in growing the national pension fund. Just scroll through the institutional owners, there are a tons of buyers.

>>23931806
I bought the bottom and sold the top of MPLN thanks to you
Thanks for the new recommendation, will watch it

>>23931907


No problem man.

Theres no reason we all cant make it

The selling is just about done on revlon

>>23931878
>Doidld Tyatstr

>>23930435

based neocons

>>23930108
Y the fuck do ppl still trade on the stock market, u can literally make a shitload more from cryptos and defi, albt,link, eth

>>23931822
Well if there are a few people such as yourself interested in this data, I'll post them on the weekends. I'm too busy planning trades and shitposting during the weekdays to bother.

>>23931932
>Expecting Americans to know how retarded their use of cyrillic is
lmao

>>23931503
International is a total fucking meme and holding bonds during a zero interest rate multi year period is also retarded. Switch it up

>>23931952
What do your data mean? I'm a still noobie.

>>23931948
Fuck off street shitter

>>23931972
what does your date*

>>23930183
OPTI, get in and don't sell until $5

>>23931967
Holding bonds from before March is great. It is trying to acquire them now that is a waste of effort/time/money.

Putschads, we're gonna make so much money on monday.

>>23931878
Who is that man and is his IQ in the negatives?

>>23931854
Do you think you are warren buffet or something ?

How did you faggots miss KCAC which is merging with Quantumscape later this month, backed by Bill Gates and Volkswagen. It was up 40% on Friday on the merger date announcement but it's risky to buy now.

>>23930108
Very soon all these boomers gonna have to move to alliance block and trade n invest. These bitches probably don’t even know what ALBT is, it’s the first decentralized global capital market

>>23931952
Please do! I know that there are a lot of other people that would appreciate it other than just myself

>>23931112
At 100 or higher.

I would like to say, to those investing heavy in PLTR, when it goes to $150 a while from now I hope you give some of your money to free speech advocates or other good places.
You are investing in an evil corporation, don't stain your soul too much.

>>23931972
That picture is a listed of a variety of calls purchased in dark pools on Friday that is publicly known about. Dark pools are used by institutions to make large buys or sells without affecting the price of the underlying stock.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dark-pool.asp

>>23932005
no... but i like solid companies

>>23932005
Warren buffet gonna buy ALBT once he learns about it, cause the guy is smart unlike u retards

>>23932001
Nah

>>23932067
>>23932021
>>23931948
Jannies pls ban this Pajeet shilling his crypto in /smg/

>>23932067
yeah, he's also gonna invest in ETH, definitely

>>23932036
Better to invest in good projects doing good things for traditional finance and defi, my soul is with albt

>>23932036
If it actually goes to $150, I will unironically donate money to death squads in south america. Maybe some money to Russia's navy aswell so I can watch them drown a couple of greenpeace activists on a live feed

>>23932083
>bull-brainlet cope

>>23932111
Ya keep calling for red Monday every week and one of these weeks surely you’ll be right!

>>23932087
While I agree with you, don't beg jannies.

>>23932175
I don't think there's anything wrong with asking the jannies to do their job, especially when it's a pajeet shilling crypto
If your house was on fire, would you object to calling the fire department?
...I wouldn't - as they're the ones to do the job..

>>23932140
lol This was 3 weeks back.

>>23931885
>Canada Pension Plan has 24 million shares
i still find this hilarious
guess im technically a PLTR anon now too because my money is going into PLTR whether i want to or not

>>23932105
Death squads? Eh.
Russia's Navy and destroying Greenpeace? A worthy cause.

>>23932105

You are a fucking piece of shit, seriously and so are are all of you Palantir buyers. CHUD fuckers.

>>23932202
Jannies are fat disgusting slobs that work for free and generally do more harm than good. Fire fighters risk there lives to help others and also get paid. Let's not compare the 2.

>>23930435
based anon
Thanks for this write up I swear biz is getting dumber by the day with their childish ideology glasses

>>23932232
Dilate your axe wound.
Unless I'm being baited, in which case, here is a (you).

>>23932232
How jewish is this company? It seems pretty damned pozzed.

>>23932232
kek every single person in that pic looks like a low T panty wearing males and the females look like carpet munching man hating dykes

>>23932256
Incredibly, despite what some Anon's here tell you, its in deep with some of the most evil people in the world. Why the fuck would Soros dump money into it?

Palantir chads, are we hitting 40 by year's end?

>>23932232
I'll buy more.

Also, Soros added D. R. Horton (a Home Building Company) and QQQ. He also dislikes Trump. Is he betting on a civil war followed by a tech rally while PLTR tracks down Trump voters?

>>23932232
Chud poster, you are definitely in the running for being a virgin this week.

>>23932232
I honestly can't tell if you're shitposting or being serious. With that being said, 20% of my portfolio is in PLTR. Cope more you fucking tranny.

>>23932232
looking at that pic I might buy some pltr when it dips

>>23930435
also, can someone form US shed a light on how does UNH operates in US and if I should long it

>>23931972
The big boys are preparing for NIO to moon

>>23932283
shit I hope so. Ill have ~50k by then

>>23932298
it doesn't seem to dip for long, stay watchful.

>>23931765
Blackrock has 29 million shares.

>>23932337
Blackrock is just a middleman for ETFs, i wouldn't put too much weight in that

When the market is closed, I am alone sad and bored

>>23932368
That's when you come here to shitpost and share stories.

>>23932368
is she feeling guilt for killing that rhino with her bare hands?

>>23932391
i think shes a ranger or some shit and shes crying because poachers killed the rhino

>>23932416
She went up to the rotting carcass of the Rhino that was likely killed a day earlier, and posed in front of it for a picture.
Amazing. Put it in NatGeo.

>>23930295
I work for a fortune 50 tech company and I play earnings all the time. So do a bunch of other people I work with. You have to be a big dog in the company to attract the attention of the SEC

>>23932283
Would be nice, my LEAPS would be $30 ITM if that was the case. I plan to cash out my 2022 LEAPS before the share lock up period ends, buy the dip and load LEAPS for 2023.

>>23931223
>The house will always win.
Tell that to my account. Nearly every single sell call I sell becomes deep itm and nearly every single buy call I buy ends up worthless. I gotta reverse myself the moment I consider selling a call and double down on shares or buy calls.

>>23932368
Use the time to improve yourself for the following week, to set yourself up for success
>exercise
>read a book
>eat well / meal prep for the week
>research stocks
>research markets
>research bonds
>learn more about new indicators
so much to learn and read everyday - nice to have some time to focus solely on improving the self

>>23932359
I think it still bodes well for Palantir that institutional investors are placing faith in it. You don't see that with scams like GME or NIO

Question to those holding PTLR: won't the price fall once the lock-up period end?

>>23932506
GME isn't a scam, but the opportunity cost is getting too great. I was one of the first big shillers of it, the collection anon that made the images with all the blockbuster posts.
Do I think its a good investment for Q4 and long term turn around? Yes.
Do I think its worth missing out on Palantir? No, fuuuuck no, not after seeing Soros.
I honestly thought Palantir was a meme stock but the more I look into it the more disturbing it becomes.

>>23932499
based, this is what I've been doing with my downtime after taking a leave from uni due to coronachan.

solitude is heavily underrated for the strong mind. i'd add deleting all social media and drink water, fight against detrimental habits and double down on reading and learning. it becomes second habit so quickly

>>23932515
Yes. We'll sell before then.

>>23931458
>just stick to the few picks you're actually certain about
I've had more success with this than listening to 4chan whose mainly lost me money. Too bad I'm still terrified of losing money otherwise my account would be up by at least 25% in a months time.

>>23932499
>meal prepping
Real men make time to cook fresh everyday.

>>23932515

My extremely unqualified opinion:

I think everyone is expecting a dip for sure. Maybe not as much as if we were still hovering around $10. I think if we were still at $10 insiders might want to get while the getting is good. If feels like right now that this will be worth a ton moving forward so I am thinking people have more faith to wait and not sell a ton once the lock up is over.

>>23932543
>>23932515
And buy back in after, to clarify.

>>23932567
>>23932543
Thanks for your input.

>>23932543
>>23932569
I am not eating those short term capital gains tax cost for a theoretical couple cents on a stock. You should hold above all else.

>>23932506
GME is just a value trap that's priced at bankruptcy when it should be priced slightly better because its balance sheet and future prospects are improving
institutional investors are very much placing faith in it too, don't compare GME to NIO lol

>>23932559
agree with trannyposter on this one, meal-prepping is straight soulless.

>>23931854
Too tech heavy. Ditch INTC, that company does nothing but crab.

>>23932515
The price dumped below 9 when the first sell off happened, so it will likely dip again once the lock up ends. A lot of people are thinking the same thing, so its gonna be hard to time securing some profits and buying the dip.

>>23932528
Well I was one of the original anons shilling Palantir and the fact that you have the intellect to see that PLTR is for real yet somehow can't see that GME is a dying business model blows my mind.

>>23932506


Palantir doesnt make money. Its a joke and all the shills pumping it here and probably part of some boiler room operation

>>23932515
>>23932611
The hope is that by that point shares will be at 40 or even 50. A 20% drop from that price would be negligible. It's all dependent on when you get in.

>>23932608
thanks. yeah, worse even. bought it thinking that the initial -20% was exaggerated but turns out they really are fucked.

>>23932559
What kind of basic bitch shit are you making where you aren’t even setting up marinades and sauces?

>>23932590


GME is a meme but a way better play than palantir.. palantir will be a penny stock in the next 6 months.

Theres literally no reason to own pltr. No profit..no profit in the future..no plan to make profit. Its a pump and dump

>>23932621
You really think so? That scumbag jew Soros is deep into it so you know it's going to be around for a long time.

>>23932621
>all the shills pumping it here and probably part of some boiler room operation
That's some schizo level thinking my dude. Almost as bad as the people thinking GME's price decline is 100% due to short sellers and not because there are a thousands of better plays out there.

>>23932621
Did you not see the Q3 report? Almost all of their net loss last Q was a result of the expenses from selling at the direct listing. They otherwise would have been profitable. Q4 almost absolutely certainly will be profitable.

>>23932621

>>23932664

S>>23932664

Still Doesnt make money

>>23932662
>you have to prepare 5 days in advance to make a sauce

>>23932638
You think Palantir will grow by 500% in two months?

>>23932675

I know the shills hate me but
Still not profitable and no plan to become profitable. Not worth owning

>>23932694
lmao can you not do math? or are you just short on PLTR?

>>23932682
You make a big ass batch of it and put it in a jar. Lasts all week. I bet you don’t even make your own beef/vegetable stock.

>>23932682
It's not that you HAVE to, it just makes it so that during the actual trading week you can spend more time focusing on markets and less time cooking / preparing meals
For me, my time is more valuable when the markets are open than when it is closed.. therefore it makes sense to do as much prep as possible when the markets are closed..

>>23932662
You only need to marinade for 12-24 hours. You make dinner one night, eat the leftovers for lunch the next day, rinse and repeat. Under no circumstances will I ever eat the same leftover shit for 5 straight days. Meal prepping is for lazy white women.

>>23932664
That's some serious DD, man. Not bad.
People also told me that Hertz won't file to BK because Icahn holds it.

>>23932676

Revenue??

Look closer ibto the balance sheet. Most of that is from selling stock to idiots

>>23932663
a national pension fund doesn't just dump over $200 million into PLTR without some sort of DD and conviction

if you get flagged for PTD does it restrict all trades for 90 days or just day trades.

>>23932677
So you think Soros invested because he's a retard that intends to lose money? Do you think you are smarter and have better info than him?

>>23932718
Just day trades - you can still buy and sell, just can't buy and sell on the same day

>>23932709
lmfao okay, confirmed an absolute brainlet.

I was wondering for a second if you had an honest reason to dislike PLTR or not. Now its painfully obvious you know nothing about business and took a stupid ass short position and are here trying to cope lol

>>23932677
>>23932721
this, sorry friend. but there's no argument you can construct that will make me think buying PLTR loses me money

>>23932701

Im not short or long

Its just a trash stock yall pump everyday that makes no money and im warning people not to waste their money.

The company makes no money whatsoever. Only spends it and steals from shareholders.

>>23932736
thanks fren

>>23932706
Thanks I'm thinking of starting a discord with a monthly fee.

>>23932721
Just pay not attention to that retard. He’s smug about buying some shit penny stock in his earlier posts and thinks GME is actually still a good play. Complete fucking brainlet.

>>23932506
Do you even know who are Nio investors? BlackRock and other big boys are in too

>>23932746

Great if you made money nothing wrong with that...but You will lose money if you hold it with expectations of it hitting $20. It will hit $2 before it hits $20.

This is the only article you need to read. They sell stock to stay alive

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/palantir-shares-fall-sharply-after-first-earnings-report-as-public-company-11605216662

Keep holding it

>>23932783
I'm always willing to listen to other anons opinions but when a company has a big dog like buffett or Soros involved, I expect there is a good reason.

The funny thing about the Canadian Pension is that they were in GME before PLTR, so I’m pretty sure they browse here.

Anyone else in on NIU? I'm closing the last 25% of my NIO position while still ahead to go into NIU.

>It will hit $2 before it hits $20
Ok you're definitely trolling and not gonna even bother giving you a (You).

>>23932676
Odd how do they suddenly make that much revenue/profit out of nowhere after over a decade of failure? They're not gonna dab on us next quarter are they?

>>23930938
>Actual leftists
Like the ones in the Soviet Union? Real bastion of freedom they created.
You’re right about neoliberals and neoconservatives though, they are 2 sides of the same coin, one just supports abortion and the other doesn’t, that’s about the only difference

>>23932832
Insiders do post here every now and then, but not all of them are true and some are just larps. In recent memory there was that anon that said to short the DAX because of France lockdowns a few weeks ago. There was also pic related last weekend that posted. While NIO's price dipped all day past 10 AM on Friday, it took a serious shit past 2 PM dropping from $44 -> $40 before rebounding.

>>23932232
Sorry your puts didn't work out.

>>23931812
>>>23931765
>If Soros is in PLTR, at least you know that whatever PLTR is doing, it's evil as fuck.


Palantir being evil as fuck is the only reason why I went all in

I didn't even sleep the night before. I was too excited to be able to buy the moment the IPO went live desu

>>23932721
Soros and his team is extremely active in buying/selling, their average entry on PLTR is 9.5 which means they can sell now if they want to for a big profit and leave you in the dust. Never use these big boys as examples of when to buy in, sell or hold

>>23932902
based and nwo pilled

>>23932902
Absolutely based.

>>23932888
checked, but also because so few are real it makes it pretty much impossible to trust anyone. the only reason why i was able to get in on GME early was because the shill has really good, detailed DD which i looked into myself and agreed with the premise. that's the only sort of thing i'll ever accept, not just a simple "BUY THIS" or "SHORT THIS" but really detailed DD that explains why it's a good bet. and even then i only bet $2k on GME in my $50k account.

it's honestly just easier and safer to make consistent gains on brand name stocks with a long bias. usually worst case scenario you just DCA down and hodl until it goes up again so you never lose as long as you understand TA well enough to know what it means to buy low and sell high in an objective, quantitative manner relative to the long term average price.

>>23932902
If you can't beat them, join them
>>23932918
Soros selling would be a definite sign to gtfo.

>>23932888
Supremely based

>>23932941
Yeah, but you won't know he sold until the report comes out and by that time it's probably too late matey

>>23932941
No not really. It might be a sign that management is not willing to listen to his bullshit. Which I highly doubt they are. They are pretty right leaning.

>>23932799
>Analysts surveyed by FactSet on average had expected the company to post earnings of 2 cents a share on revenue of $279.4 million.
>The company reported a third-quarter net loss of $853.3 million, or 94 cents a share, compared with a loss of $144.1 million, or 24 cents a share, in the year-ago period

So they went from expected +$0.02 per share, to actually losing -$0.94 per share... and this caused the stock to go up?
Also they announce stuff like $90 million contract with US army, $30 million contract with National Institutes of Health, etc, but this is like 15% of their losses for the QUARTER. Why is this shit going up?!

>>23930692
You think youre in control?

>>23930273
LINE.
GO.
UP.

>>23932975
>they are pretty right leaning
I've heard the complete opposite

NIO is going back up right?

>>23933005
Thiel is close to Trump buckaroo

>>23933031
Yeah but isn't Alex karp a complete beta cuck?

>>23933018
yeah I'm holding over the weekend, I bought the bottom
data anon showed some encouraging signs too

>>23932984
we've been in control since March

>>23932931
>but also because so few are real it makes it pretty much impossible to trust anyone.
Completely agree with you on this. However, something in my gut was screaming at me to trust this guy. I bought a few 11/13 $50 puts on NIO at open and sold them for a 2k profit. Used some of the profit to get a $55 call for Mar 2021. So even if it expires worthless, I'm playing with house money.

Does anyone have the gamestop meme, with the bro that says babe listen?

Also I'll bake

Hey you fucking bitches, how many updates do you need to do on Musk's covid? You're up to 10 "updates" so far.

https://imgur.com/a/G7Of8wr

Fresh migrate when ready
>>23933155
>>23933155
>>23933155

>>23933147
I hope he tweets more shit about how Covid is a fat nothingburger and pisses more people off, I'm not in TSLA but I just think it's funny

>>23933018
Dark pool data still tends to point to being bullish. NIO day is in Jan I believe and this will either make or break the stock completely.

GUYS DID YOU KNOW NEW CONSOLES ARE COMING OUT. NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS.

>>23930567
> In Europe it's the other way around
surveilance has always been a classic leftist (communist) tool. Just look at china.

>>23933178
>Dark pool data still tends to point to being bullish.

>>23932902
if you can't beat them, join them

>>23933313
I bet he just made that up, what a faggot

>>23933005
Because they are the complete opposite. The guy in charge is socialist and progressive.

>>23932837

You will see faggot.

Only dumb money chasing garbage like palantir.

Its a joke...why cant they makr money?

>>23930782
Every president in my entire 30+ years of life.

The USA PATRIOT act is the real motherfucker and we basically begged GWB and frens to do it to us.

>>23930793
> Buying a call and shorting the stock is a much safer way to be a bear.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/021715/how-protect-short-position-options.asp

your data tells me nothing I do not already know. Everyone who is not bullish is a fucking retard :(

>>23933196
YOU MOTHERFUCKER DONT GIVE IT AWAY

ALL THESE GRAPHICOOOMERS FORGOT ABOUT THE NINTENDO SWITCH PROOOOOO

>>23933502
oooooooooooooooooooooh you are so wise I will close every position as soon as I can

NOOO whyyyyy whyyyy did I buy PLTR
whaaat an idiiiooott whyyyyy whyyy did I buy sooooo muchhh. NOooooo IM NOT WORTH THE PROFITS

>>23933313
Nio has 1/3 of Tesla's marketshare in China. Tesla is failing hard and Nio is mooning in the biggest EV market in the world. Expanding to Europe next year, raping the Europeans brands in the process (Tesla is pathethic in Europe btw) Still low market cap compared to Tesla.
The downgrade was made from a retard who shorted Shopify at 150$ and failed miserably shorting Tesla. The big boys buy literally every dip that they can.

>>23933502
anooon you sooooooo smaaart every IPO that doesn't make money riiight off the baaaaaaat is gaaaaaaaarbaaaaaageeeee we are all sooooo stupid nooooooooo nooooooooo anon soooooo very smaaaaaaart

>>23933502
AMD was also shit when I bought it at 2'32€ per share. Good investors see the good opportunities when nobody else does. No, you're not smart by buying Microsoft after 20 years of upward movement

>>23930108
any dutch bro's here? is this thread usefull for us ? i am looking at degiro and i cant find a lot of murica stocks i am allowed to invest in.

>>23933634
I'm from Europe too and I find it useful

>>23932902
If you can't stop it
Profit

>>23933658
what sites do you use to buy stocks ?

>>23932979
They're loses totaled 870.5 million
870 million worth was due to stock based compensation. So their losses for the whole quarter were ~ 800k. Seems bullish to me

>>23932368
>>23932416

>>23933669
The best European brokers are Degiro and Interactive brokers

>>23933765
i looked at degiro a bit but is it just me or do they have almost no murika stocks?

>>23933781
They have a lot of murika stocks. If they are popular they most likely have them. If you don't find them you can look if the company has an European ticker