/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23894069
Spyware

>it's an ad-driven browser that panders to advertising agencies with a blockchain-redistribution scheme while pretending to be ethical by hardcoding deprecated web extensions into it's core (https everywhere & adblock plus)

>and contains a ledger system that measures user attention aggregate to accurately reward publishers.
https://basicattentiontoken.org/about/

>The Brave browser knows where users spend their time, making it the perfect tool to calculate and reward publishers with BATs.
https://basicattentiontoken.org/

https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html
https://hub.packtpub.com/brave-privacy-browser-has-a-backdoor-to-remotely-inject-headers-in-http-requests-hackernews/
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/facebook-twitter-trackers-whitelisted-by-brave-browser/
>>/g/thread/S69748437

>the data is stored in-browser
https://twitter.com/tomscott/status/1085238644926005248
https://bitcoinist.com/brave-browser-donations-not-optional/
https://mobile.twitter.com/tomscott/status/1076160882873380870
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999
https://np.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/ap9149/brave_privacy_browser_has_a_backdoor_to_remotely/eg6vckb/

>uses open source, fucks over anyone who forks from them...
https://decrypt.co/35146/brave-forces-rival-browser-braver-change-name

>The browser sees everything you do, including actions to stop that annoying phenomenon of retargeting where an ad chases you around the Web, often for something you just bought or decided not to buy. We keep user data out of our cloud Brave Vault by default.
https://brave.com/blogpost_1.html

>Brave has been redirecting searches to crypto companies to affiliate links that give it a commission.
https://decrypt.co/31522/crypto-brave-browser-redirect

>>23894069
I think i made this pic

>>23894069
i sold a while back and im always up when i did. just sell anon its alright, itll only pump when every single /biz/reali has sold, except for the link whales that hold most of the supply and ruined the ICO.

>>23894136
You're probably correct, but I don't think anybody is ever pumping this shitcoin. It's completely fucked. Always has been.

>>23894069
bat is literal trash. Im getting like .50 cents a month for pop up ads. How do they justify this?

>>23894168
>How do they justify this?

It's no longer justifiable. It's already a failed project.

>>23894151
nah trust me itll pump now that i sold. i got whales watching my wallet cause i whined too much here instead of /adv/ for a while earlier this year

BAT FUD picking up is a bullish sign. It would be one thing if nobody was using Brave/BAT, but they just keep setting more and more records. Longing rope futures right now for everyone who is selling. IYKWIK

Who the fuck still holds this shit I dont even get ads anymore lmfao fuck this scam coin at least defi shitcoins can do 100% easily.

>>23894521
just admit that eich fucked the project up beyond repair, you'll feel better.

too cautious. too risk adverse. worried about his fat-head reputation, hyper nervous someone would say "pump n dump"
the result is the nascent grassroots community that could've been built now never will be.
its got the stink of failure on it now and no one is "excited" by it in any shape or form.
eich is a great engineer, but absolutely horrible business leader.
goog / edge / firefox are just going to steal his ideas and make them a success....and the fat headed fag has only himself to blame.

>>23894821
lmao do you honestly believe this? They are going to be one of the only success stories to ever come out of this market. They are forecasting profitability in q1. Nobody else is even anywhere close. Enjoy your vaporware goals.

>>23894821
Yep. Good post. He had serious people backing it initially. All interest in the project is lost now. "Too risk-averse" is probably spot on - they're fucking terrified to make moves on BAT's utility. It's fucking USELESS! Nobody wants a fucking Basic Attention Token, you can't do SHIT with it.

worthless token, price should drop closer to 0 soon.

>>23894521
delusional. Nobody even gives a fuck about BAT anymore besides like 10 posters on this board, it's a dead coin. All hype and interest has long since passed. useless

>>23894967
I was there when people called it quits on ethereum in 2016. While everyone was abandoning it, I was loading my bags and evangelizing. It paid off, and big. This isn't any different. This is a value investing play, and I put my money in teams that know what they are doing and great products. I know what lag is, and when it stops it catches up.

All this FUD only makes me stronger

god damn this thing fell hard
can't believe its going to go even lower since btc is about to hard moon

Dead coin, swapped all mine to ATOM

>>23895887
And when bitcoin eventually returns to the mean, which it will, it will just push this shit even further down. I love BAT but its time is 3-5 years from now tops. By then the crypto landscape will be completely different and this will be one of the few projects that survives.

>>23894521
Lmao dude just buy bitcoin before its too late. Bat entire use case is to be tip money... You know what works better as tip money... Actual fucking money!! Imagine going to a restaurant and needing a special token to tip the waitress with instead of just using money that is accepted everywhere. Its fucking pointless, dead end idea and non starter

>>23896220
lol at thinking BAT is tip money. Brave is becoming a multi billion dollar business that uses a token to function. Im not buying your boomer bucks.

>>23897211
the big debate in early brave days for eich was whether he should use bitcoin or not....eventually he went with his own token on eth.
in retrospect, even tho btc isn't a great currency currently, it would've been a 10x better choice then a useless erc20 token.
its funny because he bet on the wrong horse. LN would've been the perfect infrastructure to base brave around...it scales with micro-sat payments...something that eth can't even do now.
face it, he bet on the wrong tech stack. was too cautious. is deathly afraid of "kyc issues" and basically fucked up the whole premise of the idea.
good news is someone less gay will steal all his ideas and make them less stupid and succeed wildly

>>23897379
the ad system doesnt even work that well, theyre still way too expensive to run for small players and theyre moving way too slowly. the token really isnt needed, if there was a way to get payouts and tips in eth everyone would prefer it

>>23897379
he did use bitcoin, the fees crippled the whole project. Lighting wasn't ready then and its not ready now, and it likely wont be ready for a very long time. You can't just shove some shitty software like lightning into the browser and expect it to work. They are doing everything the right way and theres a reason bitcoiners fight brave so hard. Even Adam Back has blocked Brendan on twitter.

Outside of these echo chambers everyone sees bitcoin as a scam with the value proposition being "buy it so the price goes up so you can sell it to someone for more than you paid...hopefully" Most of society views bitcoin as one extremely huge chinese ponzi scheme and they are not wrong. Brave actually has revenue to facilitate the tokens use. Bitcoin brings in zero revenue.

>>23896195
>>23896220
>>23897379
>>23897435
>>23896047
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>>23897623
> everyone sees bitcoin as a scam
are you self-aware enough to know how stupid you sound?
you fucked up your project fat fuck. just accept it instead of blaming the whole world

>>23897660
All this FUD and they dont even know where they are at.

>>23897727
Yeah, fear. BAT IS A PIECE OF SHIT.

>>23897727
>>23897733
hahahahah
so let me get this straight..... 0.30 bat was "New Paradigm!!!!" levels of hype.
that is unironically correct and so depressive for this project

>>23897623
The reason they didn't use lightning is because they couldn't enrich themselves and line their own pockets. Its a fucking erc20 with the goal of being a payment coin. Its dead on arrival man you need to take a step back from this project and realize how fucking stupid it is. It is going nowhere, if you get lucky and it pumps a little during the bull run just make sure you exit this scam because I can promise you it will bleed sats until it hits 0

>>23897886
Hey friend. You seem awfully committed to saving us wayward souls. Out of the kindness of your heart? That we not suffer as you once did? There's still time to change our course for the better?

>>23898095
Nope, I've never bought a single shitcoin bud. Enjoy holding your worthless bags

>>23898429

>using brave exclusively on my computer and phone for 3 months
>22 BAT which is approximately $4.25

this shit is terrible lmao

>>23897886
oh yeah? What are your credentials? Why should I believe you over myself? Bring proof or you are just a salty larping fag.

Why can't we just all be friends?

>>23895064
When raoul pal is name dropping brave on the wwbd podcast and ranting about the rapid onset and global proliferation of tokenization then you know youre onto a winner.

>>23894069
Who the fuck cares anyways? Just use the browser, redeem BAT and buy any other meme coin. Or is there a browser that pays more?

>>23894069
Haven't you seen the pic of the slide, Brave and BAT are partnering with Apple to create a search engine aggregator. ADs will be served in a private fashion utilizing BAT. Its only one slide but its a very good one. Ive mentioned this once before and now, this is the last time I will ever bring it up. BAT $10 2021

>>23899284
because people on /biz/ contacted my whore of an ex who ruined my life and made her rich just to spite me, and at the same time suppressed the price of BAT for three years so i wouldnt get rich. if you ever meet a link marine in real life, kill them to make the world a better place.

>>23899650
Id like to hear more about this, thanks anon

>>23899666
based satan trips
His name is Cameron, he is a low T cuck

>>23894069
I've been trying to tell BATBOYZ since 2018 that this token is useless. It's still 6x ICO too.

Wait for Badger Finance. It's a relief when you finally sell dead bags. Trust me.

>>23899650
Kek wtf happened you schizo cunt lmao

>>23899650
calvin pls

>>23899978
>>>/pol/

>>23899693
Thx

Unbelievable people hold a token they get for free lmaooooooooooooo they can't just print more ahaha XD scam coin! Browser explot haha bredan smol brain lmao ahah xx thanks gents I'll see myself out

>>23894069
Sold what I had left for more LINK few days ago, this sunk cost fallacy had to stop. When I think I could have had 10x more LINK I had done this few months ago, and 100x more if I had done that years ago.

I really wish you well and if BAT moon and leave me on the dust I won't even be mad I think. I don't know what is wrong with this coin, the fundamentals seemed good, but it's time for me to move on.

>>23895064
>>23894917
We're gonna make it bros. See you when we're rich.

I just bought more BAT because of this thread.

Low IQ FUD is the best indicator of success.

My browser gives me money. It's like getting paid to breathe

Everyone is buying coins when they have no idea what they do. This is the dot com boom all over again. Most companies will fail when the consumers realize that we don't need yet another DeFi, oracle or (insert buzzword here) platform.

Do you know why I believe in Bat? Because I tell my friends 'I use this browser called Brave because it's faster than Chrome, blocks out all ads, then pays me to see ads if I so choose to', and then they say 'That sounds awesome!' and get the browser.

Try to explain chainlink to a normie. You can't, right? Because you have no fucking idea what it does, and even if you do, they certainly do not. In fact, they'd have to have a PhD in computer science to even understand whether Chainlink is a good solution to this problem or just a bunch of spaghetti code someone threw up onto their keyboard.

Brave has 20.5 million active users and is dedicated to making BAT an integral part of the system.

I'd love to see someone who has actually read a book on investment debate me on this.

>>23894069
>Buying BAT instead of just using Brave

>>23901615
BAT will be worth $40 each one day, and I get 5 a month. Maybe you'll be happy with a few thousand dollars but BAT is literally going to make me a millionaire.

>>23901495
Its easier than that. Braves userbase is growing extremely fast, and has the largest userbase by far. There are other tokens out there, but would you rather have a niche "next bitcoin" moment on some obscure token or would you rather have it on the one with tens of millions of users? Brave is making its way into mainstream society. What do you think is going to get there first? Some flavor of the month defi token or a coinbase token thats running mass media commercials?

maybe when the time is right, me and a group of autists can astroturf a couple hundred tiktok stars and push BAT to a hundred billion dollar marketcap. The script is simple. The business is there. You are buying a piece of the next twitter or google arent you anon?

>>23901789
I'd legitimately invest a couple grand into this.

>>23901823
I think brave is about to do it for us. They will handle the mass media campaigns. We just need to push the token as "the next bitcoin or ethereum"

>>23898690
Better than getting shit all. I might be poorfag, but I'm not stupid to look away from free money.

>'Imagine paying for something you get for free'
>'I BARELY GET ANY BAT'

Pick one.

What other cryptos are BATfriends invested into? Might buy back depending on the answers

>>23902490
BTC, ETH, Theta

>>23902490
pnk unironically
...and pictures of brendans head.

>>23902551
I'm gonna need to see some proof of said head pictures, anon

>>23902551
Only PNK?

>>23902514
A bit bland but could be worse

>>23899666
this is someone trying to bait me into saying shit to get me arrested. BAT very seriously ruined my life. ill keep using brave but fuck eich, fuck jenny, fuck the team, and fuck me for thinking it was a good idea with a good team, none of that matters in crypto.

>>23904276
you posted cringe dude

>>23904315
if someone had just directed me to /adv/ earlier it never would have happened, but /biz/ would rather fuck with people going through shit until they kill themselves. you wanna talk about legos or apples?

>>23904350
when?

>>23904276
>>23899650
You got a pink id two times in a row my dude, maybe you're just unlucky?
Or maybe you should buy pnk idk

>>23904536
when /biz/ decided to be a bunch of simp cucks instead of doing the right thing. every bad thing i do is going to happen because of /biz/.

now ask me what the bad things are because you baiting assholes want to ruin my life even farther. again, killing link marines is a public service

>>23904601
when did I ask jackass. hit the road.

>>23904651
kill yourself you basement dwelling anime faggot. if youve ever watched evangelicon or whatever that stupid shit is suicide is the best thing you can do for the world

>>23904676
wat

i dont watch cartoons my friend. i hope you make it my dude.

>>23904719

(LOOK AT MY REDDIT SPACING LOLOLOL)

i hope /biz/ finds whoever hurts you the most and makes them a millionaire for fun

>>23904780
Based schizophrenic

>>23904856
if you think im schizo you havent been here long enough and youre not in the discords, i hope your siblings cum on your childrens faces

>>23904910
Cringe loser lmao. Keep posting sweaty.

Fellas, fellas, relax. Let's just vibe to the frequency of Eich's fuckoff big head, look at some Asian cuties, and wait for our ship to come in.

>>23905038
LMAO SO TRUE IM SO CRINGE GREAT COMMENT BRO

>>23905065
i hope jenny gets raped to death with a bonesaw

>>23904601
what the bad things are?

Reminder. BAT is for pajeets.

>>23905269
posting on /biz/ and buying link, you know only harmless stuff nothing irl or else that would be

I L L E G A L

>>23894069
I really like Brave but never understood how the fuck anybody could have seen BAT as a serious investment lmao

Search for FLEXI instead my man

I bought $1k of bat. I don't feel bad because it's going to be like xrp last bull run and not do shit until it goes crazy at the end, but most my money is in other baskets.

>>23894069
what don't you understand about BAT is a $0.25 stablecoin

>>23906984
itll pump because i sold dont worry.

what happened to the we dont talk about BAT meme? it was super popular just a year ago

>>23899666
Meds now Satan.

this is the easiest and most obvious get rich opportunity ever in crypto and everyone ignores it. too funny.

>>23907004
Short version is people are pissed they held for three years doing nothing with their bag and are jumping ship right before things get good. The amount of salt will be legendary; this is the sort of stuff you could include in a book of children's fables to talk about opportunity cost and patience.

>>23907363
hes part of the discord group, he doesnt take meds because his life has been perfect and he got spoiled by circumstance and now uses his happy mindset to get others to kill themselves

>>23907395
if it takes you three years to make it in crypto you're a fucking retard

>>23907395
also what the fuck are you talking about? the we dont talk about BAT meme was around in 2018 and 19, every post about BAT back then got slid right off the catalog, it ended for no apparent reason and now its going to moon because i sold, fucking perfect. LINK whales deserve the rope for what they did to BAT

>>23907493
??? You can buy back in right now. BAT's not doing the ***thing*** for another year or so, maybe more.

>>23897379
bitcoin is still totally worthless for mass small transactions like BAT wants to have

>>23907493

>>23907493
why would sell NOW? things are just about to start getting good. 2021 is braves year. if you dont have at least a 10k suicide stack (which is literally fucking mcdonalds money right now) then you have nobody to blame but yourself. how about you learn from your past mistakes instead of complaining and repeating them over and over again

>>23907527
link whales took advantage of the terrible BAT ico, i dont trust them in the slightest because they went out of their way to ruin my life

>>23907570
damn fucking straight im furious

>>23907574
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT BRAVE DOES
IT MATTERS WHEN THE LINK WHALES WHO FUCKED THE ICO WANT
THATS ALL THAT FUCKING MATTERS
WHY DONT YOU RETARDS UNDERSTAND THIS

>>23907633
Whales can effectively set walls at their choosing, but outside of that they can't manipulate the price strongly. And by the time any of the big guys choose to liquidate partially/fully, we'll already be in a good place.
Can you elaborate more? I understand the general threat of ICO whales but it does not seem relevant to your hatred.

I've been around long enough to see BAT outlast shitcoins, and I've also been around long enough to see people claim "WOW LOOK AT ALL THIS FUD, TIME TO BUY MORE BAT" back in like 2018, 2019, etc.

we're closing in on 2021 and BAT is still languishing in the 18 cents to 23 cents range. If I told a BAT fanatic this 2 years ago they would have sold on the spot

I do not see this shitcoin mooning. I just don't. It cannot gain traction. I know Brave is gaining users but it's so fucking clear by now that means NOTHING for BAT. In fact most Brave users wouldn't touch Bitcoin, let alone BAT, with a ten foot pole.

>>23907419
What the hell goes on in that discord?

>>23907633
you sound like such a faggot right now