/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23882293
WHERE TO BUY?

>thinking honeycomb is going anywhere

I'm not worried

AHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHH SELL CHAINLINK KILLER AHHHHH OH NOOO MOMMY MOMMY I PUT ALL MY MONEY IN CHAINLINK THEY HAVE 3M FUNDING FROM PANTERA SELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY LIFE SAVINGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>23882355
You should be the article is juicy
Chainlink has a chance of maybe 20% to succeed

>>23882293
>chainlink killer
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>ethereum killer
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
allow me to
>giggity

>>23882293
>api3
ahahahahahahaahahahahaha
AHAHAHAHAHAH
MUH CHAINLINK KILLER
HOW COPY CHENLENK VRF? SIRS PLS BUY API3 SIRS

>>23882293
Chainlink has over $1billion in treasury. $3M is like a penny for them

>>23882293
bullish as FUCK this means chainlink has succeded and now has ''KILLERS'' tag to it. Chainlink is now a serious threat and our ticket to freedom.

>>23882453
>pulls a fucking number out of his ass
ok pal

I thought dimebag was dead and not gambling shit coins

>>23882293
oh boy I love getting dumped on by VC bags before the project conveniently flatlines and dies shortly afterward!

>>23882293
>Tries to FUD with article
>Article is actually a strong buy signal

>>23882293
Chainink has brought in half a billion in the last couple of years. Bring it on

>>23882329
You can't buy it goyim.

>>23882489
This. No one tries to unseat a loser (unless you're running for government)

>>23882293
>First-party oracles are operated by the API providers themselves. Third-party oracles are not operated by the owners of the data they serve, acting as middlemen between the data source and the blockchain.
>https://medium.com/api3/first-party-vs-third-party-oracles-90356e3cffe5

>>23882293
>chainlink killer
>next chainlink
>chainlink competitor
These are the buzzwords to look out for if you want to avoid shitcoin pajeet scams

>>23882732
>The “Oracle Problem” is an abstract and overgeneralized problem that has been somewhat more formalized as: two arbitrary systems needing to interoperate with one another — through their technical interfaces — in the most general sense imaginable. This over-generality necessitates an ever-flexible interface that can only be supported by third-party oracles.

>Solutions birthed out of an underspecified problem, however, are often not optimal because the practical scope of the problem is far more constrained. In most cases — especially now, with the current state of the blockchain space— the decentralized interoperability problem is actually, in practice, the problem of receiving services from traditional API providers in a decentralized way.

>>23882293
What is this, like the 6th chainlink killer now?

>>23882749
>Lack of transparency

>A price feed fed by x oracles rarely represents x unique data points. The number of oracles serving a data feed does not necessarily correspond to higher quality and more robust data — it’s a bit of a game of optics. Oftentimes, the users of decentralized oracle networks overlook this fact and confuse decentralization at the oracle level with the overall decentralization of the system. This is primarily caused by a lack of transparency regarding the data sources used by the oracles, which disguises the fact that decentralization is severely bottlenecked at the data source (API) level.

>>23882775
>If we attempt to detect malicious behaviour at the time of aggregation, the only information we can use are the oracle responses themselves. That is, we can only compare the oracles responses to each other — since they are reporting off-chain data, we cannot compare their responses to any on-chain “gold standard”.

>So this leaves us with “outlier detection”. However, critically: an outlier does not imply a misbehaving node.

muh staking

>>23882293

Anything that markets itself as :

>the next “...”
>Link/btc/eth killer
>Link/btc/eth but “...”x times faster !!!

Is a scam

When the fuck can I buy this

>>23882520
Burniske literally has more Twitter followers than the Chainlink project, kek

>>23882997

So has Justin Sun, your point?

FUCK CLCG
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>>23882293

>another article with 'Chainlink Killer' in its title

Bullish af for Chainlink

>>23883022
My point is that Placeholder is legit. Also, Jake Brukhman of CoinFund used to be a Chainlink advisor when they launched in 2017, and now he’s backing API3. These are not Justin Sun type people.

>>23883279
If they were so good why didn't they start years ago?

>>23882293
>API3
>chainlink killer

Oh boy. Where do I even start

API3 and google have something special planned for tomorrow at 7 AM EST! https://youtu.be/iao6anwTDhw?t=1502

>>23883404
chainlink and google not api3 and google you turd

>>23883484
Woops! Must have made a mistake! I’m sure there is a big API3 announcement somewhere other than coindesk!

Competition entering the market signals legitimacy to LINK

>>23883596
This usually... what happened when "superior" BTC competitors and killers started emerging?

Thx bought more link

>>23882293
So this is why he was bashing link lmao.. he's competing with it.

https://twitter.com/cburniske/status/1294319646913384448

>>23882293

If I own 0.00135% of the total link supply, I’ll probably just buy an equivalent bag of any new oracle project while its dirt cheap just in case.

This competitor sounds shitty but we shouldn’t discount the possibility that just “good enough” oracles eat some of link’s market share

>>23884110
PFFFFFFFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>23882293
Already debunked by a Chainlink labs spokesman if you read the article. Just add it to the pile

delicious, salty, linkie seethe. (You) me when staking is live, I'll be playing this obvious oracle pump at the start of the bull market

$3 million investment lol

Good luck

>>23884110
>https://twitter.com/cburniske/status/1294319646913384448
based chris

>>23882293
Chainlink is not the Google or even yahoo of oracles. It's the lycos, Alta Vista, askjeeves of oracles.

>>23884734
Would that be allowed in a regulated market? Using one's audience to spread fud about a competitor.
Chrises investment will probably end up bein a node in links network.

>>23884794
Cope seethe and dilate.

>>23884802
Do you think a fast follower can copy links network effects, their experience, team and community?

>>23884794
Cope seethe and dilate.

>>23884794
Do you think a fast follower can copy links network effects, their experience, team and community?

>>23884844
>links network effects
network effects apply if you have a truly decentralized network of independent node operators (e.g. bitcoin, ethereum). Chainlink is a permissioned network.

The only network effects that Chainlink really has is the community. But the rest of the cryptosphere can't stand them. And most partnerships are whos trying to get a pump via link marines.

>>23884902
They will become truly decentralized once their core infrastructure is build fully and a proper track records for nodes is set up. You can't scale an oracle network in the same way you can scale eth or btc, there are too many factors playing a role than just mining and validating blocks. This is old fud and was debunked long time ago.

>>23885001
>it's been deboonked
how is chainlink even close to becoming decentralized? where is the security? e.g. staking, sybil attack prevention, etc? why don't you hear them talking about these things? they should be priority #1. instead you hear them talking about muh definitive truth (some pseud terminology you'd expect from a philosopher businessman)

>mfw I already predicted this in 2017
>when we start hearing about 'chainlink killers', that's when we know we are definitely going to make it

>>23884301
Thank you biz for looking after my financial well being

>>23882293
>$3MM vs Sergey's stack of $500MM+ by now from all the sales
Good luck to them.

>>23882293
Pantera?
CANTCHA SEEEEEEE IM EASILY
BOTHERED BY THE LINKIIIIIIEEEEEES
ONE STEP FROM
LASH ING OUT ATCHU

>>23884153
No. It’s DOA

Top kek literal biz scammers scamming Pantera
Meanwhile a year ago the Pantera moron missed out and was fudding on Twitter
Imagine trying to get back at link by funding literal biz pajeets and turk roaches

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>23883279

He looks like a little bitch

>>23886119
what's your point?

>>23882293
>chainlink killer
Why are coindesk so anti chainlink? I've noticed before they seem to never report on any good shit, or the negative.

>>23883279
why shit talk link then
I never saw chainlink bashing other projects
just build your shit and if it’s good people will notice
they just try to jump on the data/oracle game
but they are to late and probably incompetent

>>23882293
buy QTUM, NEO, and ICX as well. They are ETH killers

pretty sure the API3 team didn't want the article worded this way

(((COINDESK))) do this all the time to generate drama and to clickbait

>>23886391
Also EOS. Another ETH Killer. Just a matter of time kek

>>23883340
>Where do I even start
Well, can you give us b brainlets brief overview?

>>23883404
25:03 in that video.

>>23886229
>refactor

>>23886658
>>23886119
low-tier fud.
>search "chainlink" in the airnode repo and find an old commit that has since been deleted.
a+ sleuthing

>>23882453
hmmm yes I thinks this chainlinks coin I think this token it is scam and is having hmm maybe 20% chacne to succeed or maybe 22%

trust me sir ,,

>>23882293
Fuck I love cowboys from hell

>>23886736
It’s not fud. Why is it chainlink killer if it copy paste from chainlink’s code?

>>23886785
>overinflated 1 billion big token supply
>token not needed -> more middle man -> more friction
> not permissionless, not decentralized
> gaming price feeds instead of making central banking absolete

>>23886915
https://widgets.weforum.org/techpioneers-2020/chainlink/

If it's good enough for NWO jews it's good enough for me bro

Is it fucking over for us or not

>>23882293
It's so insanely bullish that there is so much of the same kind of fud that was pushed on ETH in 2017. 1K EOY is pretty much inevitable at this point.

>>23882293
Didn't read, not selling.

>>23882453
>has a chance of maybe 20%

>>23886800
reluctant check. it's not copy-paste. it's an old commit that heavily edits the chainlink aggregator contract and, more importantly, it's since been deleted from master branch.

Is this the new Mobius sirs?

API3 TO THE MOON SOON!!!

>>23887131
Do you even code?

>>23886994
as if any of this means anything. the list of the WEF tech pioneers is full of copy and paste meme platform ''startups''. at this point the startup ''industry'' is such a joke that you could think its only exist for VCs to launder money. remember 95% of startups fails.

>>23884734
https://twitter.com/cburniske/status/1326959531843178497?s=20

>>23887179
yes actually, former faang faggette

>>23882293
JOE BIDEN WON
API3 WILL WIN OVER LINK
WE THE PEOPLE WILL DEFEAT FASCISM

>>23887425
Define “refactor”

>>23887466
kek

>>23887466
ehh something tells me api3 has more trump supporters than the chainlink team ... not that it's relevant

>>23887724
You will never be a woman.

>>23882293
Kleros will be used to decide if the claim is to be paid out based on the presented evidence.

>>23888007
>for the alchemists, the squared circle stood as a metaphor and symbol for attempting the impossible, i.e. the magnum opus.

>>23882293
That's the same group that seed funded Arbitrum, right? This is bad.

Daily reminder to sage all API3 jeet threads. They have their capital now so they can fuck off and build something.

>>23882293
>5049th ethereum killer
>fails
>4938th chainlink killer
>fails

>>23882453
this has been debunked

>>23887655
checked and waiting for >>23887425

Why did CLCG and Honeycomb have a fight with Sergey? Why were they working behind his back?

>>23882293

I wonder how much meth and opiods and other types narcotics this dude does.

He doesnt look healthy.

>>23887655
When u change code to improve readibility and modularity etc but don’t change the functionality. The fuck is your point?

>>23888587
sounds like something a very Chinese thing to do kek

> The recent DeFi boom saw Chainlink node operators cashing in. For example, the monthly subsidies earned by each of the top three Chainlink node operators was close to $100,000 per month between August and October this year. According to research carried out by The Block, between August and October, ChainLayer made over $322,000, LinkPool over $306,000, CertusOne over $293,000 and Fiews over $282,000. September was a particularly good month for them, as the top three nodes all made over $160,000 in said subsidies.
> By contrast, the API providers are paid a couple of orders of magnitude less and don’t even know their data is being resold in these applications, said Vänttinen. The monthly subscription fees paid to those providers by node operators could range between $100-$200 per month, perhaps running as high as $400, Vänttinen said, adding that the terms and conditions of these subscriptions usually prohibit the third-party reselling of data.
Kek even the article has API3 as a "light" cheaper option

>>23882293


>Mobius will kill Chainlink
>Augur will kill Chainlink
>Oraclize will kill Chainlink
>Rhombus will kill Chainlink
>Witnet will kill Chainlink
>iExec will kill Chainlink
>Band will kill Chainlink
>Zoracle will kill Chainlink
>api3 will kill Chainlink
<<<YOU ARE HERE>>>

>>23882293
is this real? holy fuck i remember this shit happening with ETH, we unironically did buy the next big thing in crypto. just the fact that LINK is in the headline is bullish as fuck. there's going to be alot more of these and i am shaking holy fuck we made it.

>>23889021
Oh the memories Mobius and Witnet. Haven't heard of them in a long time. What happened lel

Shame on you dave connor

>>23882333
Checked and comb pilled.

>>23882293
$3 million vs sirgays $5 billion war chest lmao oh no no no no no

>>23890943
pretty much this
if they were a thread it'd get bought out by chainlink and either folded in or killed outright

>>23882293
>Link killer
RLC already exists

>>23882293
Sold thanks OP!
fukoutta here these articles are published by bloggers pushing their bags

>>23890943
This. Gay market sells more than that every few days lolz

>>23882293

good i need chainlink to dump so i can buy back at a lower price

Incredibly bullish. We now have pajeets and shills coming out of the woodwork promoting "Link-Killers". First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you (we are at this stage)

Then you just win.

>>23882293
you guys need to shut the fuck up about this. it's not even trading yet. just let keep it quiet

F

>>23891952
>>23891952
just go back you fucking faggot

>>23883532
Kek

Has there ever been anything labeled "The ____ Killer" that has actually succeeded?

>The Halo Killer
>The WoW Killer
Both failed.

Pride comes before a fall.

>>23890943
Damn right sir, Sergey can sell tokens to drive these guys to ruin! I sure am glad sir that I am holding the tokens he will sell sirs,,

>>23883077
You have GOT to be kidding me. Is this real?? He’s wearing my clothes!??

>>23882520
Rest In Peace...or prob more like stop making Satan blush

>>23892445
The Altavista Killer
The Yahoo Killer
The Sega Saturn Killer
The Betamax Killer
The Postal Mail Killer
The CD Killer - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/27/digital-killed-the-cd-compact-disc
many such examples

>pantera
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Literally a nothingburger. Everything they back up end up failing

>>23884794
>askjeeves
Kek, I remember that shit back in the day

>>23882293
isnt this the same team that ditched their older project?

>>23893072
>backed Offchain Labs > Arbitrum

>>23883077
wtf is this real?

3million vs 5billion
i dont see much chance for capitulation

>>23893356
i remember the ask jeeves commercial about a dude fishing while asking questions to jeeves

>>23894068
5 billion based on pure speculation by cult members. staking is the only value proposition for link and it isn't implemented nor will it be in the near future.

>>23882293
I’m actually a little worried about this.

>>23883077
How did they teach that cat to dance like that?

>>23889021
>>23889087
You are underestimating what API3 is. That is your problem.

>>23894145
> underestimate muh power level
screeches the API jeet

>>23894092
no 5 billion based on 9 of the 25 largest companies in the world banking on the chainlink oracles,i bought in a 85c aud and have seen a new "chainlink killer" arise every fortnight and subtly return to obscurity after making the exact same claims this one won't be any different considering its another team of literal who's who game themselves the title link killer.

>>23894171
I hold link you fucking idiot.

>>23894211
Link is kill, Timo

>>23894211
you should sell

>this intermediary function is handled by rent-seeking middlemen who run nodes on Chainlink, which in turn operates an opaque system of governance.
based&api3pilled

>>23894180
>no 5 billion based on 9 of the 25 largest companies in the world banking on the chainlink oracles
yea, you're proving my point. the 5 billion is based on delusional and speculation on the part of link marines (i.e. cult members)

>>23883313
because burek just thought of the idea

a whiteboard session on "how to make money when your first crowd sale was a failure"

Anyone who properly researched API3 care to answer to the following? No one seemed capable of doing so last time:
>>23806848 (minor correction: replace the word "thus" with "also")
>>23807188
>>23807405
>>23807542

>>23894407
Cultists and memes are the future boomer. Brand based guarantees are worthless if everything is manufactured in China for example. If something is so good it has become a religion it must be good.
No one will worship at the Church of Burek lmao

this is the same guy that said he didnt see why link was worth as much as it did

>>23894583
No one will answer you and everytime API3 jeets get btfo they just ignore the point and change the topic.

>>23894583
Burak and Timo are not smarter than Sergey and Ari

Remember 3 years ago people laughed at Oracles even being needed...who saw beyond that

>>23894661
>Cultists and memes are the future boomer
completely disconnected from reality

>>23894749
burak is unironically a genius. read his writings, code, and whatever else he has in his small internet footprint. if u know u know, high iq recognize high iq

>>23894790
no they're actually ahead of their times

another company helping bring real world data on-chain. everyone should be celebrating

>>23894790
imagine thinking there's an objective reality out there the observer has no impact on. Kek
>>23894749
This. Burak and tranny Timo literally went against Sergey and frens and are now seething they missed out
>>23894837
> small footprint
this is doublespeak for literal who lmao

>>23894837
Whatever he should’ve done something before we all made millions. Now I’ll spend that to see him fail bc I have nothing better to do but seek destruction over my enemies

>>23894837
You will never be a real genius. You have no PHDs, you have no cited papers, you have no prestige. You are a homosexual man twisted by Ari and Sergey into a crude mockery of intellectual perfection.

>>23895210
>we all made millions
millions made on the promise that one day staking will be implemented

>>23895376
>thinks sergey is intellectual perfection
muh definitive truth

ChainLinkGod is absolutely seething all over twatter lmao what a cuck

>>23896392
who gives a fuck, you're even worse for giving him an audience

>>23896405
Seething is my fetish, keep going plz I’m almost there

>>23896392
this. Twitter Frogs need to direct new faggots to official documents or to the discord to speak with actual team members instead of getting into flame wars on Twitter. Fucks sake

>>23882293
when the fuck is Sergey Nazarov's birthday

no one has correctly answered this

>>23894790
>"Fuck that shit brah, you can either be a sick cunt or you can be a sad cunt, don't be a sad cunt brah" Zyzz
Stay salty we are the future, the memepower of dogecoin opened my eyes and ever since iv started looking at the world in 8bit glasses and winning daily.

>>23884110
>So this is why he was bashing link lmao.. he's competing with it.
What a weird argument. If someone observes a market inefficiency it's normal to try to profit from that.
>Michael Burry thinks a financial crisis is coming
>Ignore him he's short

>>23897498
>the memepower of dogecoin opened my eyes and ever since iv started looking at the world in 8bit glasses and winning daily
i'm not denying memepower is real, fren. but to truly excel in this world you need to balance the intellect and intuition; you need to balance your subjective beliefs and desires with external reality (which is the confluence of every conscious beings subjective reality)
>https://montalk.net/metaphys/138/transcendence-through-intuitive-thinking

>>23892379
go fuck yourself nigger. the less biz spams bullshit about this the less dumb faggots like you will buy in

“With its Airnode design, API3 makes it seamless for primary data providers to pipe their information into cyptonetworks with zero blockchain expertise,” said Burniske.
Sounds like he has no expertise.
> “That means the reputation and quality of existing data providers can carry into cryptoland, simultaneously allowing these entities to turn a profit from crypto participation.
>cryptoland
oh it's retarded

>“With its Airnode design, API3 makes it seamless for primary data providers to pipe their information into cyptonetworks with zero blockchain expertise,” said Burniske.
Sounds like he has no expertise.
> “That means the reputation and quality of existing data providers can carry into cryptoland, simultaneously allowing these entities to turn a profit from crypto participation.
>cryptoland
oh it's retarded

>>23897452
C_A

>>23897744
Trusting my gut has never failed me because my intuition is my ancestors intellect manifesting its self metaphysically upon the physical realm, my desires and beliefs are one and the only variable as to if i achieve them is myself.

to think that they could have just accepted their rightful place as a node operator while trying to get some traction their api marketplace. they'd even have a nice grant by now.
but unfortunately burak is as greedy as he is smart. as soon as the ico failed (due to greed, of course, and then timo's fuckery on twitter), he was off looking. now's he pulled in some "vc" money and will muck around for a couple of years.
he'll make his million but he would have got the same outcome by accepting his place and contributing to oracles in a way that actually reflects his ability/intelligence.

>>23882293

>>23898116
>rightful place as a node operator
the delusional arrogance. or maybe burak et al found multiple faults with chainlink (see sasa's analysis of the eth/usd price feeds) and decided there's plenty of marketshare for a better product

>>23898231
they would have been far more useful in house. chainlink is just too far ahead
but yeah, greed is a powerful thing. at least we can blame timo for all of this. if only he hadn't gone rogue on twitter

>>23898230
it's sick that as soon as they were aware of this threat the chainlink team attacked infura to head off the opposition at the pass

>>23898231
> identifies problems for chainlink to solve
> builds a new solution instead of contributing
you cannot make this up

>>23882293
Shut the fuck up about API3 until next year.

>>23899444
Checked

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>>23898116
A smart turk roach is still a turk roach

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
API3 IS THE CLCG TIMO FAGS TRYING TO REBRAND THEIR FAILURES

>>23900592
say something nice about Timo /biz/
he wants you to buy his new xdai kleros scam

>>23885232
>muh no security
Decentralized nodes that post responses on-chain with everyone to see with reputation systems tracking their historical performance

>muh no Sybil resistance
Nodes are security reviewed and run by known entities that sign on-chain with their private keys

>muh not decentralized
Can visually see the decentralization on-chain on each network

>muh staking
Highly complex problem that they are likely leagues ahead of others on and tackling more important problems like launching networks and scaling off-chain

>muh decentralized governance
Doesn't fucking work in an immature technology and an immature market. Only virtue-signaling naive plebs think decentralized governance is an advantage at this stage of the game given the complexities and tough decisions of provisioning oracle networks.

Stay poor pleb

>>23895662
>Thinking staking is the single factor to Chainlink's success.
You have such a naive view on how to build a widely adopted oracle network

>>23892959
Can you find a single example of any of their competitors labelling themselves as e.g. the sega Saturn killer? No you cant. Just because products get replaced by superior versions does not prove that things calling themselves 'the X killer' are just try hard scams biting at the heels of the big dogs. Facebook never had to market themselves as the Myspace killer because doing so would have acknowledged Myspace superiority.

Tldr youre a retard and your api3 bags will go nowhere.

>>23900986
*aren't

Oh look another VC scam that will instantly be Top 50 and then dump for the next years just like avax tezos and polka