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Charles is more likable. It makes for a more stable scam

>>23842782
The sad thing is Tron is utter centralized, copy pasta, pump and dump hypeware but Cardano will never have the dapps, usage, community and usage of Tron. Poor bastards who are investing in Cardano thinking it's an ETH killer and developer mindshare will migrate to Cardano are utter retards.

>>23842782
Made 27k on Tron in 2017. Lost it all hodling after his fap dungeon webcast. Tron is better

why does everyone in crypto have an asian twink lover?

>>23842801
Doesn't everyone who worked with Charles in the past hate him?

>>23842782

Scammers meeting.

>>23842887
ERC-20 converter is a thing. AGI is already moving over.

>>23844861
This chart looks like complete bs to me

>>23842782
>Cardano is vaporware
Staking mainnet has been live for months now. The promise of Cardano is actual hard research, functional programming, peer review, audits and formal verification. Almost no other crypto does this.
>trusting your money with anything that's not at least audited
>putting your money into "dude, trust me" coins

>>23845039
you are a host
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibQydeS0IHw

>>23845039
Watch the video then
https://youtu.be/jWyBjjgdWWU?t=2010

ADA holders will get transaction fee rewards from Native Assets as rewards, just for staking their ADA. Some of those native assets will moon.
>Holdt/stake ADA
>Get wrapped BTC and any other token
Thanks Charles!

>>23845120
I dont want to watch that boring shit

Look at the first checkmark on that chart you posted. They're saying no smart contract is required, but instead it uses a foreign policy script.

How is that not the same fucking thing? This is a bunch of shit.

>>23842887
Cope harder, mETH-head

Cardano isn't TECHNICALLY bad. It's just that contracts are going to be a desert because functional code is unreadable. I hope they have a VM that accepts nonfunctional code, and that haskell/ghc isn't their actual bedrock of contract code.

There are already expereimental functional contracts for ETH. Are there imperative contracts for cardano?

>>23845193
It uses ANY foreign policy script supported by Cardano. First it will be Plutus (Haskell) and Marlowe (DSL), later there will be multiple languages supported on Cardano.
On Ethereum, everything relies on Solidity spaghetti code.

>>23845494
>Code will be unreadable
You must not have heard of Marlowe. It's even simpler than using Excel.
https://alpha.marlowe.iohkdev.io/#/blockly

>>23845494
>Are there imperative contracts for cardano?
There will be. They re-partnered with Runtime Verification to finish IELE, a superior EVM, that will run on Cardano.

>>23845550
The class of contracts possible to write in Marlowe's domain is incredibly restricted by ETH ecosystem standards. It's for classical financial contracts like swaps. You can't write AAVE in marlowe, not even close.

Cardano shills love selling Marlowe while omitting just how limited it is.

>>23845595
That's cool, I'm genuinely happy to hear that. What is the foundation of ADA contracts, is there a VM or is haskell the bottom level currently?

>>23845499
Solidity isn't the point dumb ass, a script and a smart contract are the same fucking thing.

>>23845499
>On Ethereum, everything relies on Solidity spaghetti code.
EVM is the bottom level. Vyper exists, though I'm not sure of it's development status atm. Any language can be implemented, solidity is just what people use right now.

>>23845653
Haskell, Plutus and Plutus Core is currently bottom level.
>Cardano shills love selling Marlowe while omitting just how limited it is.
A masjor benefit of it being non-turing complete is how easy it is to formally verify. You get Plutus for everything else.

>>23845736
>A masjor benefit of it being non-turing complete is how easy it is to formally verify. You get Plutus for everything else.
I get this. It has its applications.
>Haskell, Plutus and Plutus Core is currently bottom level.
This isn't good. They should go with a VM as bottom level allowing multiple ecosystems to flourish. Free market of programming languages. Hoskinson's haskell fetish has cost him years.

>>23845653
IIRC, they are also looking to crosscompile Javascript to Haskell --> Plutus. There's already the GHCJS, Haskell to JS.

>>23845793
>Hoskinson's haskell fetish has cost him years.
He's aware. Ben Goertzel loves them for it though, and their fetish for formal verification.

>>23845808
This is basically using Haskell as a VM. I don't see why anyone would do this except as a post-hoc. and I'm a fan of FP where it's applicable. I use it all the time.

>>23845835
Anyway good chat man. I wish you all the best. Bedtime in euroland.

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