/biz/ - Business & Finance

Here's an 11 year old Apmex ad for Krugerrands, I thought /pmg/ would find entertaining.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zUso5ol1Nqk

>>23832557
that ad is based. I love Krugerrands.

>>23832578
There's also this even older ad, the first one they put up on they're Youtube Channel. I'm not sure why, but it makes me feel nostalgic.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZzZtlTjkpZY

>>23832618
were you even alive when they made that?

>>23832633
>video uploaded on Oct 27, 2009
are you saying you think that poster is 11 years old? I doubt many 11 year olds are posting on /pmg/.

>>23832633
I was probably 8 or 9 when that ad was filmed, too young to care about money or remember that ad if it was ever on TV.
Apmex's Youtube Channel is full of old ads like that.

>>23832683
that looks older than 2009

I just made a really big order.
Really big.

Will post when it arrives

>>23832708
Judging from the Computer monitors it looks to be from sometime in the mid 2000s.

>>23832755
based frog poster. get anything special?

bold precious metals has 2020 libertads on pre-order
https://boldpreciousmetals.com/product-category/silver/silver-coins/mexico/libertad/

>I got grams
>I got ounces
>I got pounds of this shit
>I got kilos
>I got bales
>I got planes in this bitch

>>23832756
yeah, that was my guess also. The dress and filming looks like pure 80's but neither APMEX nor the internet was around then.

>>23832793
560 ounes of silver

>>23832838
beautiful man. that is a fantastic order. hopefully you got some fun stuff and not just all 10+oz bars. gotta get some fun art stuff too!

>>23832831
Apmex is based in Oklahoma, which tends to be frozen in time in some regards.

>>23832838
normally I'd asked what the hell is wrong with you buying that much as once, but with the market and economy the ways they are all I can say is good on ya

>>23832838
Let me guess, the entire mintage of 2020 Libertads?

Intro time!

Hi! Stacklet here. 28oz Ag, some coins from the Russian (due this week!!), and about $8 in junk (none of which was "purchased" as it were; just stuff I fished out of registers during my time as a cashier/wagie). I first got a Monument "10oz@spot" deal about a year ago for $180, then had to stop due to life shit, but I've restarted (slowly) to accumulate. Got more generics, some ASEs, a few Krugerrands, a few Brits so far. My question is about junk though. How did you all get over the mind-hurdle of "buying" coinage way over face? I only ask because I just ordered a $5 roll of Mercs, and my brain was like, "Don't spend a hundy on a five dollar bill, dumbass!" I know I should be thinking of them more in terms of weight, and being fractional vs full ozs. But damn, did I think long and hard about abandoning them and just getting a few more rounds. Anyway, I'll go back to lurking.

Thanks for reading my blog!

>>23832578
Here are some silver ones

>>23832852
>>23833009
just plain bars. but I love cast bars. They make me feel so wealthy
>>23832972
I had an epiphany and needed to dump fiat asap

Ten-year yield is creeping towards 1%, market crash will come soon. Then expect the Fed to step in with more Q. E. and destroy what little is left of the middle class, before releasing Fedcoin. COMEX will be emptied in December, and BTC will be rug-pulled by the exposure of the tether scam.

>>23833677
2021 is the year it all comes crashing down

>>23833677
>>23833692
So what do I do? Buy more miners? More silver and gold? Get a bit of XRP since many people this this will be the basis of FedCoin or at least of many other countries crypto?

Decided to be an autist tonight and reorganize my bigger tubes/bars in my hand safe for funsies, got some cute photos to share out of it
Looking at them takes me back to when I was when I first starting stacking. I’ve grown both as a person and as a stacker since then. Feels good

Asahi stacklets, what is your excuse for not having this?
Hint, there is none

>>23833824

Buy both, physical metals for no counterparty risk, miners for greater leverage. Yesterday's paper gold crash was one of the worst in history, yet most junior miners barely dropped (only -2 or -3% on average), and some were even green on the day (FWZ +6%). Some got panic-dumped (e. g. SVE was -25% at one point), but were aggressively bought (ended -3% on the day). People really don't seem to trust the COMEX price any more. Indicates to me that something important is coming. I recently added NAK to my portfolio as a hedge against Trump winning the election via the state legislatures. It was interesting that it held neutral on the day.

Why should I buy more silver than Bitcoin when Bitcoin is seen as digital gold and it has still a x10 to do?

genuinly curious

>>23834140
because when the lights all go out and people are killing each other are feeling their homes they aren't gonna be hiding bitcoin in the soles of their shoes.

>>23834140
Don’t need to have a charged device to use your gold
Power goes out, have fun remembering your 12 digit code to pay for shit

>>23834140
you should own both. silver has some downsides that bitcoin and gold solves, gold has some downsides that bitcoin and silver solve and bitcoin has some downsides that gold and silver solve.

bitcoin can go 10x but it can also go 1/10. gold and silver are your savings

>>23834140

BTC is worthless as a currency,

https://blog.plan99.net/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7

controlled by Blockstream and the banks,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfcvX0P1b5g&ab_channel=BarelySociable

and only propped up by the ponzi-scheme scam of tether.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFVK9SxKR5c&ab_channel=GoldSilverPros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzDjJ-SrojY&ab_channel=GoldSilverPros

Do not let yourself get rug-pulled. It's a banker-created distraction from precious metals, and it is going to zero. When the reset happens, BTC will be priced in gold, not gold in BTC. Russia and China have accumulated precious metals to back their currencies with, not cryptos.

>>23834244
is that why its been fairly easy for the government to seize BTC lately?

>>23834167
lol

>>23834391
>political violence, civil wars, societal collapse, changing demographics, and genocide never happen!

>>23834423
your doom porn will never be real chud

>it's a vaccine creates hope pump before the realisation the economy is fucked either way episode

>>23834530

>>23834530
>Happy Holidays

>>23834167
because you dont need to, you just have to hide the codes in your shoes

>>23834380

I think what the recent BTC seizures prove is how easy it is for the government to track and trace it. Deso goes into it in the first of these two videos. >>23834244 The public ledger never goes away, and you always have to cash out into fiat at the end. That's when they get you.

>>23833677
What should i do if I own a lot of stocks?

I have 200k invested in four different mutual funds like vanguard and blackrock and I have a meeting with my investment manager on Wednesday. Should i tell him I want to pull it out and go physical or should i leave it in on the basis that I'm not going to pull it out for at least five years or beyond 20 years?

>>23834707
Tell us you're trolling because if you are not, what the fuck are you waiting to get out? Check Mike Maloney hidden Secret of money series to at least make an educated decision before listening to internet shill.

>>23834707

If you mean mainstream stocks (Dow Jones, Nasdaq), get the hell out now. P. E. ratios are higher than in all human history and the economy is only getting worse from here. The stock prices are only kept up by Fed money printing, not on the basis of fundamentals; when the world dumps the dollar, all of them will revert to their true value. Either convert the stocks into physical bullion or buy gold miners. They already have excellent dividends, P. E. ratios, earnings, and will only become more attractive from here as the price of gold inevitably rises. The indices are GDX and SIL for the majors, GDXJ and SILJ for the mid-tiers.

>>23834707
I'm up 17% on my 401K.
This morning, I reallocated everything to bonds.
In an (alleged) global pandemic and economic shutdown, I'm up 17%. It's time to take the chips off the table and cash out. 17% is respectable even in a good year.

>>23834831
Im not trolling. It was an inheritance and ive always been worried about it but noq im pretty worried. I thought that if I just left them in there i could ride out any uncertainty and even make gains in like 20 years. But then the debt reset thing happened.

>>23834707

If you mean mainstream stocks (Dow Jones, Nasdaq), get the hell out now. P. E. ratios are higher than in all human history and the economy is only getting worse from here. The stock prices are only kept up by Fed money printing, not on the basis of fundamentals; when the world dumps the dollar, all of them will revert to their true value. Either convert the stocks into physical bullion or buy gold miners. They already have excellent dividends, P. E. ratios, earnings, and will only become more attractive from here as the price of gold inevitably rises. The indices are GDX and SIL for the majors, GDXJ and SILJ for the mid-tiers.

A caveat: Whatever you do, don't hold cash. People in the stock market will lose 90% of their money, but people holding cash will lose 99% of it.

>>23834870
Should I transfer all of my wealth to gols miners or do like a fifty fifty split? You think i should move them over to sprott trust funds or like peter schiffs euro Pacific or itm trading?

>>23834890
I dont know a lot but arent bonds one of the worst things you can do right now?>>23834927

>>23834927
>>23834909
Bump

>>23834890
>Bonds
Short term right?

>>23834903
Don't listen to your bullshit artist.
I remember circa 2007 where everyone was a financial expert. I walked into a Fifth Third as a kid, and some greasy 'financial planner' was trying to pressure me into giving him all my savings for 'only' a 4% fee. I closed my account that day. Fuck Fifth Third and all those planners.
>>23834943
They're a safe haven. You might see 2% growth, or 2% loss, but it's damn better than a 40% loss that you may be looking at.
>>23834958
Of course. 6-10 months at the most. Then I'll shift towards an aggressive S&P or something

>>23834890

Bonds are in a historic bubble, they are going to plummet. Interest-rates can never go up again, only down, otherwise the whole system would immediately crash, as it did in late 2018. Yields, therefore, can only become increasing negative from here onward, thus making a bond-market crash inevitable. Also, once the dollar gets dumped, bonds will literally become worthless. "Cashing out" should mean converting your money into gold bullion.

>>23834903

In 20 years, most of the companies in the Dow Jones and the Nasdaq will be bankrupt. They only survive because of Fed bailouts and Q. E. When the dollar gets dumped, there will be nothing left to sustain them.

>>23834927

50% in bullion, 50% in gold miners is a completely sensible thing to do. If you buy miner ETFs you are spread across dozens of jurisdictions and hundreds of companies, so the only risk you take on is that there won't be a PM bull market and gold will go down. (But that isn't going to happen.)

Sprott's PHYS and PSLV are considered to be the safest ETFs for buying bullion, but it's better actually to hold it in your hand, or at least use an allocating/segregating service like GoldMoney, BullionVault, or Kinesis. Never buy GLD or SLV, that means that you own a claim on a bank, not on real bullion, and the banks are going to collapse.

>>23834989
If it were up to me i would liquidate them all right now and put it into physical gold. However i dont have control of these investments because it was an inheritance and i dont get access to it until im 35. I don want this money to just sit there and then I lose it all because of fiat bullshit.

>>23834244
>>23834380
>>23834692
Hence why Monero is the far superior option if you want a glow-proof, decentralised currency with functionally zero percent inflation

>>23834707
You should definitely hold a lot of gold in your circumstance anon. Put in some silver for good measure too. Those will protect your wealth. Put at least half of those savings in physical commodities. You can of course hold something else that keeps its value, namely collector items like vintage cars or whiskeys but you need to know your shit at that point.

If you still want some gains, pick stocks related to commodities: mining companies, oil (has been going down a lot so a rebound will happen at some point), agriculture and energy (nuclear going to go big at some point in the future). Steer away from consumer-related cyclicals like tech and definitely move away from funds since those will all dump when the eventual collapse happens

>>23834995
I just dont know how much power i have over these investments. Im not supposed to have access to it for five more years. What do you think if I could at least get them to move them towards more stabke commodoties at least like oil or something if I cant get them to bite and move the funds over? I have to convince the financial advisor along with my boomer grandfather who is the executor of the estate.

>>23834167
>because when the lights all go out and people are killing each other
schizo
opinion discarded

>>23835067

Oil is going to do well, so buy oil stocks if you really can't get access to miners. But the major gold miners should be available in the fund. NEM is even in the S&P 500. Newmont Mining and Barrick Gold will see you through. See if the GDX ETF is available as well.

>>23834995
The silver miner anon is back! And you’re recommending gold miners over silver miners? Is that just for brand new PM investors, or has something changed to shift your predilection back towards gold stocks?

>>23834203
>you should own both. silver has some downsides that bitcoin and gold solves, gold has some downsides that bitcoin and silver solve and bitcoin has some downsides that gold and silver solve.
don't you think that being in gold this early is a way to avoid gains from inflation and stocks?

>>23835031
There are a lot of tax and other issues with doing so.
It's not horrible to have money 'in the system', especially if you're young.
Yes, shit is changing. Yes, there are dark times ahead. Yes, the middle and lower class are, and will, be raped in the ass. Yes, PM are a good vessel to store wealth when the seas get rocky.
Is everything going to crash and next week there will be civil war, our dollar will be worthless, and guys with a few Mercury dimes will own entire countries? I'll let you be the judge of that.

>>23834903
I see, then check Mike Maloney video on wealth cycle too, it's pretty short and will explain to you why it's a bad idea to hold stock when time is up.

>>23835125

Glad to see you again, only came to make a few posts today. I still believe in silver small caps 100%, simply telling KlBwHaYF to buy the GDX or Newmont because, if he doesn't have any other choice, that's 1000x better than not having any miners at all. My portfolio is still exactly the same as ever, the one exception is that I sold some Silver One when it mooned and did two things with it, 1) bought NAK when it dumped as a hedge against Trump winning the election, 2) bought Adriatic Metals for jurisdictional diversification. Social unrest and or a Democrat win with Democrat regulations may be bad for U. S. mining stocks.

>>23832525
I got made fun off in a crypto thread yesterday for buying silver. I feel so fucking stupid now :(

>>23835215
Thank you for this reply. So it seems we are heading full steam ahead towards a crash in the financial markets very, very soon, probably in a matter of days to weeks. The fed can only Ratchet up the quantitative easing, and that is their only course of action, nothing else, do I have that right? So it would seem that another round of QE, probably the largest ever by far, will probably be announced in the next few days. Is that basically what you think is going to happen?

>>23835215
Based small caps anon is back, what a good day. Just have a question for you. For someone with small income like 1k per month, do you think a portfolio of 6 strong small cap silver stocks is good enough if a good physical pm foundation has been prepared? So 500$ in two stock each month, 3 month for a full cycle. I'm afraid of having too many stocks compared to my means, not investing enough and missing the big ride upside. God bless you and Have a nice day.

>>23835215
Can i get a quick review? I hold

Impact
Silver one
Dolly varden
Viscount mining
Silver spruce
Bayhorse
Defiance
Tinka
Sprott gold miners
Sprott junior gold
Vangold
Kootenay
Klondike silver
Canada silver cobalt works.

12k total invested.

Thanks

>>23835360
Why feel stupid for making a smart investment and being laughed at by scam artists and retards hoping for a lottery win?

>why yes I have 2019-S 1-oz. ASE $1 Enh. Rev. PF Coin x10. How did you know?

>>23833677
>>23833906
>>23834244
>>23834592
>>23834692
>>23834909
>>23834995
>>23835111
>>23835215
GUESS WHO'S BACK

BACK AGAIN

>>23835398
I don't know. Everybody called me an idiot.

>>23835461
Don't worry about it. Keep investing in gold and silver; they rebounded sharply after the market overreaction yesterday. If they were weak they'd have dumped and stayed low. But investors are going to fight over them soon

>>23832838
ya did good kid

>>23832838
Big if true

>>23835373

I don't see how the markets can keep going up when you have the yield approaching 1% and the Dow Jones reaching a new record high. It's absolutely absurd. There will either be a crash and then stimulus, or there will be stimulus, but we are going to get stimulus either way. Then the next leg up in the PM bull market comes. Of course with the social unrest which is going on in America right now, you could simply have a civil war, which might cause the dollar to get dumped by foreign nations far more quickly than we anticipated.

>>23835388

6 stocks is a very sensible number when you truly believe in each and every one of the companies. If I were to choose 6 they would be IPT, DV, SVE, IRV, TK, and ADT (six jurisdictions). I don't think that a portfolio should exceed 15-20; to me, that indicates a lack of confidence and research. Sprott is in about 60 stocks, but he only has real money in about 20 of them; the rest are mostly small investments like $100,000 (which is only 0.01% of his net-worth).

>>23835392

I own every single one of these stocks.

>>23835388

By the way, @sheldonreinhart said on ceo.ca a few days ago that 100% of his money is in only three stocks (one of which is CCW), so there are people who are even more concentrated in their investments than you are.

"Thanks no debt just a $528,000 mortgage on a house appraised at $710,000 last year. Yes 100% of my investments in the 3 stocks above $DIAM $ENDR and $CCW. Once they hit I will be pulling out and putting into safer investments. But no where I would rather have my money than in Junior miners right now. Sorry @greenanon my portfolio will beat yours in 2021 IMO and by lots. Watch and see."

https://ceo.ca/diam?9e5e4b7ba66c

>>23835577
He threw shade at you too lmao. Confident man

>>23835577
My entire silver allocation is in-between 4 juniors
>Bayhorse
>Pacifico
>Klondike
>Vangold

If we're right about silver these should all explode exponentially. I recognise that if we're wrong I'll loose everything, but this is make it or break it for me. I'm only young and want to leveraged myself to this upcoming opportunity as much as I can. Do you have any recommendations? 8k in the market so far, with 3k disposable income a month and aiming to get all of it into miners over the coming months

I manage my parents retirement fund and have already bought them 1500oz of physical silver. I want to get them to some safer silver miners like impact and discovery. Still don't want more than 1/3 of their portfolio in silver though so I'm looking into other commodities like rare earths, copper, uranium

>>23835577
>>23835549
I see thank you very much, I'm into DEF, IPT, VGLD, DV, CCW, KS. So it's pretty much the same, the only problem is juridiction I guess with half Canada and Mexico. Thanks.

>>23835549
>we are going to get stimulus
Are we? Or have we been strung along - most Americans spending the stimulus they assumed was as good as gold - to help prop up the economy and sensationalize things?
I'm sure big companies will get another bailout and free loan, but Rule Number One is to fuck the little guy.
Their only saving grace is to pillage small and medium size companies and send the revenue to the top few companies. That's all the Dow and S&P is, a collection of the top companies. Kill the competition and bleed them dry with fees and hoops along the way. Then get record profits through fuzzy mergers and acquisitions.

>>23835215
>Silver One
has anyone heard if Nevada passed that increased tax on miners? Could have a negative effect on Silver One

>>23835549
It’s so interesting to read the opinions of “financial market experts” Who say that we are entering a golden age for the stock market, and that the next decade will be the biggest boom we’ve ever seen. As you and I have discussed, I am still in amazement at how these educated people can be so completely wrong, and so enthusiastic about it, when the warning signs are readily apparent. It’s almost as if this type of information is being suppressed Or there is rampant lying in the investment portfolio advisement space.

>>23834244
That first video about Adam Back is unreal, someone needs to tweet it to Peter Schiff, he'd have a field day

>>23832755

You're going to make it BIGLY

>>23835640

I don't own Pacifico only because it wasn't available on my broker,--otherwise I would,--but BHS, KS and VGLD, as you say, are pretty much the ultimately-leveraged silver stocks in their respective jurisdictions (USA, Canada, Mexico). Because of their low mcaps, they are likely to outperform everything else unless we have a black swan, like a mine collapse, nationalization, a war, crippling regulations, etc. As three thirds of your money is already in them, you might want to choose the larger silver small-caps from now on, like DSV and IPT. (Although obviously all silver stocks will collapse if silver goes down, so nothing is technically "safe.") If you want another speculative investment, get CCW or IRV.

>>23835681

The coronavirus hoax and now the election fraud have really taken the mask off the mainstream institutions for good. They have no credibility left. You turn on your television or look at a news website and literally every single word which you read is a disgusting lie. That's one reason why being against the herd doesn't make me doubt myself in investing in silver, because I already have to be against the herd simply to understand reality in this topsy-turvy authoritarian nightmare.

>>23835647

When I say stimulus, I mean both U. B. I. and Q. E. If we only get Q. E., the chink in the armour there is that foreign nations are preparing to dump the dollar. Russia has already accumulated the reserves for a gold-backed currency, and China is widely speculated to have done so in secret. Q. E. causes less consumer-price inflation than U. B. I., but it still destroys confidence in the dollar when they prove that they have to keep printing trillions simply in order to prop the system up, and foreign nations won't stand for that.

>>23835640

I don't own Pacifico only because it wasn't available on my broker,--otherwise I would,--but BHS, KS and VGLD, as you say, are pretty much the ultimately-leveraged silver stocks in their respective jurisdictions (USA, Canada, Mexico). Because of their low mcaps, they are likely to outperform everything else unless we have a black swan, like a mine collapse, nationalization, a war, crippling regulations, etc. As two thirds of your money is already in them, you might want to choose the larger silver small-caps from now on, like DSV and IPT. (Although obviously all silver stocks will collapse if silver goes down, so nothing is technically "safe.") If you want another speculative investment, buy CCW or (for another jurisdiction) IRV.

>>23835681

The coronavirus hoax and now the election fraud have really taken the mask off the mainstream institutions for good. They have no credibility left. You turn on your television or look at a news website and literally every single word which you read is a disgusting lie. That's one reason why being against the herd doesn't make me doubt myself in investing in silver, because I already have to be against the herd simply to understand reality in this topsy-turvy authoritarian nightmare.

>>23835647

When I say stimulus, I mean both U. B. I. and Q. E. If we only get Q. E., the chink in the armour there is that foreign nations are preparing to dump the dollar. Russia has already accumulated the reserves for a gold-backed currency, and China is widely speculated to have done so in secret. Q. E. causes less consumer-price inflation than U. B. I., but it still destroys confidence in the dollar when they prove that they have to keep printing trillions simply in order to prop the system up, and foreign nations won't stand for that. Civil war may be what starts off the dumping, and it may happen very quickly. austrolib says that we may simply wake up one day and see that the dollar index has collapsed by 10%.

>>23835577
>CCW
according to this chart (if it's correct) CCW is only sitting on 7M silver ounces. That's not much, where's the big upside with these guys?

>>23834244
>Russia and China have accumulated precious metals to back their currencies with
So why their currencies are not priced in gold?

>>23835848

CCW's grades are 250 ounces per ton; I don't know how to emphasize how high that grade is. People get excited about silver stocks when they talk about grams per ton, and here we're talking ounces. And not merely ounces, but 250 ounces. @mackvorkian, who invested heavily in Spanish Mountain Gold before it went up 6x, calls CCW's grades "possibly the highest Silver grades in the universe, as in mega ultra high grade." https://ceo.ca/ccw?53392a4b4840

"Its asset is in northern Ontario and consequently in a safe country, province and mining district. My view is that CCW is flying under the radar. When the POS (Silver) breaks $30 and holds, the viciously manipulated paper silver market will capitulate and the rush to $50 plus Silver will send all Silver jrs up, up and up. For those trading illiquid jrs like CCW, beware. The company is one news release away from 75 cents."

7-8 million silver ounces are simply what is proven. A news release at the end of September announced that the mineralized zone had been expanded by 500%.

https://ceo.ca/@newswire/canada-silver-cobalt-expands-robinson-zone-by-500-percent

People carp about the CCW management for being slow in making news releases, but that doesn't bother me in the slightest. All I care about is the resources in the ground.

>>23835856

China's foreign debtors pay them in dollars, so they have continued to hoard gold, silver and commodities in secret until the last possible moment. It has been in their temporary interest for the gold price to remain suppressed, and for the dollar to remain the world reserve currency, but they are going to show their hand soon enough.

>>23835549
I have about 5000 shares of tinka, but fuck if this stock is like a rock. It just doesn't move up or down.

>>23835946

Drilling results come early next year. It went up yesterday when other stocks were dumping.

>>23835928
thanks anon, maybe there is potential there and Canada is a good jurisdiction, but current oz are Bayhorse level. Wouldn't Silver One with over 10x the oz be the smarter buy?

>>23835928
>but they are going to show their hand soon enough.
Don't forget that this is your immagination/schizo

>>23836118
Nice try. Go back to your English lessons, ping pong.

>>23835825
It has been theorized by many that the coronavirus lockdowns are a way to condition the masses to not only accept authoritarian control over their lives, but to ask for and crave it. It seems like, when this global bust happens, as David Hunter calls it, mankind will already be conditioned to obey government authority and not revolt as a response to their livelihood and future being so quickly flushed away. Sorry for derailing the conversation away from PM’s, but these are thoughts that are difficult to voice in normal interactions.

Anon's, the sunshine rounds are still on sale at JM Bullion and appear to be the cheapest there. If it dips today it's a good round to beef up your stack.
https://www.jmbullion.com/1-oz-sunshine-silver-round/

Finally, after being lost in the mail for nearly 2 weeks. A little 1881 morgan arrives safely in the UK. When it comes to older coins you Americans sure do have the best.

How do I buy this in ireland

>>23835549
Can you help a noob out? I own physical, but I've wanted to branch into miners. Unfortunately, I've only ever bought stock through Robinhood - and these 6 you listed aren't available there. What's the easiest platform to buy miners, especially juniors or the few that you mentioned here?
Any help would be appreciated.

>>23836833
I usually use TD Ameritrade, they charge a flat $6.95 fee to buy the penny/foreign stocks that are under 2 bucks

>>23832525

anyone got the sauce on those oracle cards?

>>23836798
Buy what?

>>23837026

Ok Joe, settle down

>>23837035
Delet

>>23837062
Fug, what a great idea

>>23836707
nice one m8

>>23837004
Gold and silver coins and bars, do all these sites ship to Ireland

>>23835055
Fren have you looked at Secret Network? Still a work in progress, but I need help from pmg bros that still see the value in privacy coins

>>23837149
Thanks! I'm going to hunt around for some more in these nice cases.
>>23837218
Of course they do, get stacking.

>>23836592
Didn't JM Bullion have a big security breach, exposing all of their customers' credit cards and addresses? The deal is very tempting but I have been avoiding them.

>>23837330
Same

>>23836833
Try SIL or SILJ, which are silver mining ETF’s

what are the odds of an enormous day?

Support your LCS. Become good friends with them. Keep local PMs trading strong.

>>23837393
Probably more crabbing.

>>23837330
Well, I ordered some during March so I'm fucked regardless. That being said, they don't have my CC info since I pay by mailing checks.

>>23837062

ARE WE GOING UP OR DOWN?THE MARKET OPENS IN 15 AND I NEED TO KNOW

>>23837607
>he cries about day-to-day dips

>>23837466
The world bank estimates silver demand will increase by 300,000 tons + per year over the next 20 years, get in while you can.

>>23837667
What's to stop them just printing more silver though?

>>23837607
up day fren

>>23837695
>the world bank starts printing 800+ tons of silver a day to suppress prices

The fucking bankers are always one step ahead!

>>23836833

There are ETFs of the larger gold and silver miners, which you can buy even on Robinhood. GDX is for the large-cap gold miners, GDXJ is for the mid-tier gold miners; SIL for the large-cap silver miners, SILJ for the mid-tier silver miners. The safest one to buy is the GDX. In order of risk reward:

GDX
SIL
GDXJ
SILJ

The truly small small-cap stocks won't be on Robinhood, but there are still some excellent smaller-cap producers to buy if you want to branch out from the ETFs. You can see them in my picture. I especially recommend Great Panther Mining, Alexco, AUMN.

The largest gains are to be made in certain selective small caps (like the ones which I mentioned in the post to which you replied), but those also carry the greatest risk. I am 100% in small-cap silver miners, but that is only because I feel 100% confident that a silver bull market is going to take place.

Before you buy a mining stock, you can always research it on the company website and ceo.ca; see what people are saying in the chat there, look at the news releases and financial documents. I also recommend listening to Sprott Money, Mining Stock Education, Palisade Radio, Baby Farm, Drew Stegman, Allan Barry Laboucan, Departures Capital, for some entry-level Youtube channels. Don Durrett also has some excellent articles for beginners who want to invest in mining stocks; you can't go wrong with his suggestions:

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4376036-how-to-ride-this-precious-metals-bull-market-to-top

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4367147-silver-miners-shine

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4315726-top-10-gold-mining-stocks-for-2020

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4315151-10-best-silver-mining-stocks-for-2020

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4311495-10-gold-mining-development-projects

>>23836024

SVE is a must-own stock, because of its proven ounces, but the unexplored potential of CCW is immense, in view of how high its grades are. That's why people are so anxious for assays.

>Finally made it to 100 ounces

Prepper bros, if I wanted to store a bunch of oats for a long time, what's the best way to do it? Heat seal vacuum bags with desiccant in them?

>>23838001
solid post, should have been trips

>>23838001
What do you think about defiance silver? A lot of potential with their tepal project for gold. Their silver project seems fine too, it was shilled pretty hard on Twitter with the sitfolio. Does it deserve all of this over someone else?

>>23838011
Next is an ounce of gold. Then another 100oz and so on.

>>23838533
I'm trying to finish off my gold stack first since it's harder to accumulate then silver.

>>23838462

Don't understand how the $160 million mcap of DEF is justifiable when IPT is still sitting at $130 million. IPT is already producing silver, is in the same jurisdiction (Mexico), and the exploration potential, given the size and history of the property, is pretty much unlimited.

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/moriarty120606.html

"Fred's guys (who happen to be the best and most professional group I have seen at any mine in Mexico) have discovered almost 200 surface workings. In other words, mines, and it's clear there are twice as many around. This is a district, an entire district with 400 mines which have been on and off in production for 478 years and they have barely scratched the surface.

There are no good historical records but a reasonable estimate would be production of a million ounces of silver a year for the last 478 years except for the frequent civil wars and disturbances. Bear in mind that the Spanish didn't value zinc and if they came across a high grade zinc vein, they left it. With 1% zinc now being worth $40 a ton, Impact is in the enviable position of being able to focus on the highest value ore which at present is going to be the high-grade and previously-ignored zinc."

I also think that VGLD looks far more attractive than DEF at less than 1/5th the mcap.

Holy shit doubleview found visible gold in their core sample

>>23837466
My lcs kinda blows. Nice guy but narrow selection and high prices

>>23837575
They ask for your CC when you create youraccount so they can charge it if you Welch on an order

>>23838598
What are your thoughts on the disconnect between the fanboys and hype around Aurcana, and CEO.CA’s overall distaste for the company? I’ve seen Aurcana shilled here and by “experts” for months now but the knowledgeable insiders seem to dislike it.

>>23838625
Well, looks like I'm damned either way. Card's linked to my bank app though so I'm able to cancel any suspicious transaction.

>>23838663
Ceo.ca also has aurcana bulls

>>23838663
Don Durrett has been defending Aurcana since January and it's gone up over 3x since

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4315151-10-best-silver-mining-stocks-for-2020

Is there any scenario at this point in which PMs don't smash through ath in 21?

>>23838663

I recommended people to buy AUN many months ago (see in the list on this old picture for an example). However, I don't recommend many of the stocks on this picture any more. That's because I revise my point of view as I gain more information about better stocks, or as a stock starts to look too overvalued to me. I haven't recommended Vizsla Resources, for example, since it went up 5x, because it is comparatively overvalued now. In March the $60 million mcap of AUN was such a joke for a 30-million-ounce resource that you couldn't go wrong by buying it. At a $260 million mcap it's a much more tentative proposition. They have silver in the ground, so they will thrive in a silver bull market, like any silver stock, but much of the mcap comes from the idea of pricing in production. What happens if production goes wrong? And why should I trust the management to deliver production when they have harmed their shareholders in the past? Alexco is also near to production, and their mcap is still under $500 million, so not even double that of Aurcana, but it has one of the best management teams in the business as well as some of the best exploration potential. Or again, as mentioned before, CCW, has 8 million proven ounces at 250 _ounces_ per ton, as against the 700 gpt grade of AUN; but CCW only has one fifth the mcap of AUN. So AUN is simply starting to look a lot less attractive at this point when compared to other silver stocks. It's not a bad buy though, I simply don't think that people should be obsessed with a single stock. Somebody was asking for advice in one of these threads once who had literally no mining stocks, and somebody was incessantly shilling AUN to him as a must-buy. I always tell beginners to buy the ETFs.

>>23834203
>you should own both. silver has some downsides that bitcoin and gold solves, gold has some downsides that bitcoin and silver solve and bitcoin has some downsides that gold and silver solve.
don't you think that being in gold this early is a way to avoid gains from inflation and stocks?

>>23838663

I recommended people to buy AUN many months ago (see in the list in this old picture for an example). However, I don't recommend many of the stocks in this picture any more. That's because I revise my point of view as I gain more information about better stocks, or as a stock starts to look too overvalued to me. I haven't recommended Vizsla Resources, for example, since it went up 5x, because it is comparatively overvalued now. In May the $60 million mcap of AUN was such a joke for a 30-million-ounce resource that you couldn't go wrong by buying it. At a $260 million mcap it's a much more tentative proposition. They have silver in the ground, so they will thrive in a silver bull market, like any silver stock, but much of the mcap comes from the idea of pricing in production. What happens if production goes wrong? And why should I trust the management to deliver production when they have harmed their shareholders in the past? Alexco is also near to production, and their mcap is still under $500 million, so not even double that of Aurcana, but it has one of the best management teams in the business as well as some of the best exploration potential. Or again, as mentioned before, CCW, has 8 million proven ounces at 250 _ounces_ per ton, as against the 700 gpt grade of AUN; but CCW only has one fifth the mcap of AUN. So AUN is simply starting to look a lot less attractive at this point when compared to other silver stocks. It's not a bad buy though, I simply don't think that people should be obsessed with a single stock. Somebody was asking for advice in one of these threads once who had literally no mining stocks, and somebody was incessantly shilling AUN to him as a must-buy. I always tell beginners to buy the ETFs.

>>23838001
Amazing explanation, thank you!

>>23838033
Not sure, but be sure to protect your oats against pest insects, pic related can for example chew through plastic vacuum bags. So at least store it into glass or cans.

>>23839150
Silver miner anon, what do you think of :
Dolley Varden, Skeena, or Puregold? I'm thinking of getting into abraplata and switiching out maybe Skeena.

>>23839150
It seems like a lot of these stocks are ones that I should buy and sell after a short while, is that true?
Are there any stocks you'd recommend as a long-term hold? I'm looking for something I can buy and then forget about for a few years, if not longer.

>>23839303
I’m not him but personally I’m viewing all my miners as very long term holds, ideally years, unless they get nationalized or go bankrupt obviously. They haven’t even enjoyed $30 silver yet, let alone $50+ silver, so it makes little sense to sell them now IMHO.

>>23838033
If you're gonna store oats, remember to store other preserves to mix it up, really great morale boost to have your oats taste special every few days.

Also, if you're storing oats because /fit/ (even if not, really), then also get stacking peanuts.
Gram-for-gram they have the most fat and protein at the lowest cost and smallest footprint of any food I've found:
If you buy them in little 200g cans you get:
>1310kcal
>52g protein
>98g fat

They stack, they keep forever and with a blender, a little rapeseed oil and some protein powder, you can make sweet peanut butter deserts.

If you're gonna buy a sealer, consider going getting a chest freezer, seal and freeze several kilos of meat (and vegetables, if you're some kind of queer)
The freezer also protects you from >>23839284

>>23838663
WTF are you on?

ceo.com is very positive about AUN

the only people against it now that its funding and production is assured are people with an axe to grind against management for daring to keep the company alive through share dilution while the mines were closed.

This company is not hyped, the fundamental economics of it are displayed and anyone who knows how to do DD knows that a mine that can produce 3-5 million oz of silver at 8$/oz for ten years is worth a lot more then a dollar a share.

in two years I expect it to be 6-8 million oz per year, and this is without new exploration (which is being done) if they reinvest profits to maximize yeilds similar to what majestic has done, they will be ridiculously profitable.

>>23839524
*almost assured

>>23838663
these are 3 of my favorite silver stocks (at the right entry point)

>>23839657
I like your portfolio, impact is one stock that I think is also low-medium risk/high reward like aun, only reason I didnth throw more at it was because I simply thought aun was the better buy at the time i bought it.

FSM looks more and more like a really low risk for med-high reward the more I look into them. I dont think they are undervalued, but they have the potential to capitalized on a bull market with so much production, good exposure to both silver and gold, and its well run.

>>23839303

I did a lot of buying and selling during the first half of this year, simply because I hadn't concluded my research yet. So I got rid of a lot of stocks which I thought to be overvalued and bought ones which I thought to be undervalued. I don't intend to buy or sell much from now on. This would be my personal sitfolio, in an ascending order of risk:

1) IPT, DV, SVE
2) FWZ, IRV, CCW, ADT, TK
3) BLLG, VML, CNX, ELO, AZS
4) BHS, KS, VGLD, SSE

I feel comfortable to recommend these stocks at their current mcaps on the basis of exploration potential and resources in the ground. Only one of them (BHS) is a near-term producer, but sentiment is so low and the mcap is so much in the gutter that the idea of production isn't even priced in, so that's why I feel comfortable to recommend it. They _will_ go up if silver goes up, simply on the basis of what is beneath the ground.

Bear in mind that this portfolio would go to zero if silver crashes, so I don't recommend it to anybody who doesn't believe in silver 100%. Most people should stick to the ETFs and producers, as outlined in this post. >>23838001

Hapless stacklet here. Currently sitting around 50oz Ag, no Au. I'm contemplating whether I should focus my stack money to getting towards 1 oz Au and then finishing my 100 oz Ag, or if I should focus more on getting to 100 oz Ag and THEN go for the 1oz Au. Any advice? I currently have about 500/month to use.

Are we really gonna have to wait 5 years for a 3x? And then lose 25% of that anyway because of taxes and shit?

What is the fucking point?

>>23839935
>What is the fucking point?
Having something of value when the collapse comes.

>>23839697
thanks bro, Fortuna releases Q3 earnings in 2 days which should be great, I wouldn't mind a little dip before then to pick up 300 more

>>23839700
>VGLD, SSE
>CCW
>FWZ,

I agree these are top tier picks, sse is my #1 explorative speculative pick that I think will go up many fold no problem should their results be proven and if that happens along with a silver spike, skys the limit. VGLD is my #1 gold position (they hold silver too), and while I dont hold CCW and fireweed zinc thats simply due to not having a good entry point/cash at the right time for me, both are on the to buy list once I have cash and a good entry point at the same time.

Still disagree on BHS, management was just too shady with the various halts that seemed designed to hype the stock. This is mostly an opinion based reason, but due to their SP declining from 17 to 10 cents since these hype stops, it would appear much of the market agrees with me. The sitfolio has also removed BHS from his list too for similar reasons I would expect.

mandatory AUN pic because "AURCANA GOOD!"

>>23839935
>imagine paying taxes

anon... you need to give yourself a financial education there are many many vehicles you can use to mitigate taxes, if not completely eliminate them. I wont pay a dime in taxes on any of my gains, and its all 100% legal.

>>23840045
Please tell us your mystical ways, so I too can avoid the leeches we call the IRS.

>>23839991
>letting the flag touch the ground
>useless break action shotgun with no practical military value

>>23840045
bro, do you have a favorite site for tax tips?

>>23839860
I’d reach 100 oz silver to begin and save for full oz. or half oz. gold.

Where do I look for a gold 20 yen to finish my Au meme stack?

>>23840094
>>23840126
In leaf land between a TFSA, registered RSP, and LIRA I have all the tax mitigation I need since I am no whale. If I were to get bigger, opening up a company/trust is a great way to trade up.

You burgers I am less well versed on, but Recommend reading rich dad poor dad to get into the right mindset, then just do some google research. I just read books on how to avoid paying taxes in my country legally, and im sure you can google up some good books. Research and Contact a tax accountant and pay them for an hour of their time to ask questions, I cant really give you good advice for the US outside of 3401 deferrals for real estate. Its always best to do your own research because not only will it train you, and educate you, it will make you invest in yourself, which is 100% the way to go.

Hope that helps.

>>23840030

A lot of really good stocks are still 30-40% down. I was going to add Excellon Resources to my portfolio last week, because their German silver mine intrigued me, but I just missed it by a day and the stock went up by 30% in a single trading session. When BHS announced production in mid-August, it instantly mooned to 0.24 CAD a share. We then had the silver crash from $29 to $22 and it quickly fell along with other silver stocks. Then BHS announced the Harrison acquisition, and the suffering bagholders who have been holding the stock for years started to throw a tantrum because they wanted production, not more exploration, causing sentiment to plummet. But nothing in the fundamentals of the company has changed--it still has a 100%-owned silver mine, fully permitted with capacity for production, and producing right at this moment, and we're about to go into a silver bull market. Geos who work for BHS are highly respected by their peers, so there's nothing disreputable about management. The thesis for these stocks is only really going to be proven once we get over $30 silver again. Anything until that point is mostly noise. The BHS exploration-acquisitions which people are complaining about will only make the company more valuable, more less, once we get the next leg up in PMs.

What does /pmg/ think about 250g silver bars?
Pic related, same price as 1oz silver bullion where I live.

>>23839522
This guy is spot on. Also look into pepitas and lentils.

>>23840312
250g of silver is a sliver over 8ozt. If you can get 8 for the price of 1, what do you think?

>>23840275
thanks bro!

So whats the news? When are we hitting 40 dollars?

GDX down over 2% today when physical gold is up $18, that sucks

>>23840299
>capacity for production
thats my other gripe with BHS, the are capped at 200 TPD, and only can do 50 TPD. thats very low. To an extent I agree that having more in the ground resources is a good thing, but you need to be able to produce and sell it as well, it could take many years to get production to a level that would truly take advantage of the bull market. Plus pan man brought up that their management team is really small for what they are trying to do, which seems to me like they are biting off more then they can chew. Best hope is for a larger company to buy them out, but even that puts full scale production far in the future as permitting caps production at 200TPD still.

I truly look forward to 6-12 months from now when we can compare gains, at 8-10 c a share I think they are fairly valued for what they are and their current potential, if they can get production up or even get permits for higher production, Id think they were worth more, which is a sentiment many faithful BHS holders share.

>>23838001
>Great Panther
based. been adding to my bag a lot on this one.

>>23840312
>>23840453
I think he is not the best english speak and meant same price per oz, not same price.

Anon, if two silver products are the same price per ounce, always buy the product that is in the smaller size (ie buy 8 x 1 oz rounds for 100$ over 1 x 8 oz bar for 100$)

the reason being that you can more easily sell smaller units.

Unless one of the products has additional collector's value of course. Also people like floor stacker prefer larger bars simply because they, well, stack better so they dont run out of space.

Hope that helps.

>>23833130
Considering you knew to fish Constitutional out of the tills because they were more valuable than face, you need to train your mind to think that way instead. It's not easy to do, especially when you can look at two quarters, just a year apart, then grab the one that's debased and spend it, but that's how I manage to think when I'm dropping $120 monopoly on $6.50FV real money at the LCS.

Also, get pics of the Russian's stuff when it arrives.

>>23840312
And what price is that exactly?

>>23839522
>>23839284
ty frens. Yeah I'm trying to keep a good healthy whole foods that are cheap. I don't know what queer would seal fresh veggies instead of just getting cans

>>23840601
>he is not the best english speak
apparently neither am I... hurr durrr

>>23840524

I can't say definitively that BHS will achieve its goals, any more than I can say that VGLD will find the Veta Madre on its property, or that SSE will prove the 120 million silver ounces at Pino, which is why I put it on the highest level of risk. But it is very likely that it will do so. The reason why BHS can have such a small team, or even produce at all, is because of some ingenious innovations made by the CEO, like buying its ore-sorter. It is an ambitious project, but, if successful, the current mcap will come to look like a joke. Most explorers never get into production at all, most mines take ten years to develop, and yet here we have a company which is actually producing silver and the mcap is still sub-$20 million. At $23-an-ounce silver, and with their current production capacity, they already have the ability to make about $17 million per annum. And I expect $30, $40, $50, $100 etc. silver to come. At any rate, hope that both AUN and BHS do well, and I am sure that they will. The miners are so ridiculously undervalued that anybody who owns any silver stock at all, which isn't a complete scam, is probably going to make a fortune.

>>23836707
Man, I dunno who you got that from, but that is in no way an uncirculated Morgan. I'd give it XF40 at best. Just look at the hair right above the ear, and how it's worn flat. Now, search for an MS63 Morgan and check THOSE pics.

What'd you pay for that thing? Depending on the amount, you need to get a refund.

>>23834943
Bonds are extremely bad because of how little interest you make right now. Right now I don’t even think you’ll make enough to beat inflation.

>>23841266
What's wrong anon?

>>23840884
What would have to happen for silver to NOT increase in value over the next few years?

>>23840884
Butthorse is the worst stock shilled here.

>>23840721
0.75€ per gram of silver

>>23840994
You know, the hair above the ear is a strike point and not necessarily an indicator of wear? That being said those black holders are cancer so it's probably AU deets with a cleaning

>>23841311

I believe that silver not going up is mathematically impossible. Either inflation continues, so that real yields keep getting more and more deeply negative, and people have to turn to precious metals to protect their wealth as a matter of necessity; or the authorities stop printing and let the whole system crash, i. e. every social program, stocks, and all the banks, so that people lose all confidence in mainstream institutions. (Then see what happened to mining stocks during the Great Depression.) In either case, foreign nations are going to dump the dollar, which means that real things will take its place, and the hundreds of trillions in purchasing power which currently lie in the bond/stock market/housing bubbles will be transferred to gold and silver as a matter of course. Our whole financial system is a ponzi scheme, it simply has to collapse.

>>23840994
Probably better than XF40 but it certainly ain't even AU and was definitely cleaned/dipped too. Morgans are cool though so not a total loss.

>>23841507
In the long term, yeah. In the short term, deflation is going to kick silver in the teeth. Just don't get shaken off and do NOT play with leverage.

McEwen Mining is still low DESPITE having fixed all of its aforementioned issues if you've kept up on it. It has not only 1, but 2 Gold and Silver surges to catch up on, and it will be that momentum that'll give it the space to become the next Goldcorp.

Got this one today in the mail.

>>23838033
Buy dry ice and big sturdy airtight containers. Put dry ice in the bottom, then fill with your oats/rice/whatever and allow the dry ice to sublimate and purge out the air, then seal. Prevents oxidative spoilage and kills critters too.

>>23841266
Don't feel like that bro. What's got you down? Is it the price action? If so, don't be depressed; unless you were planning to sell soon, the price will rise again later on. If you're feeling sad because you bought when things were more expensive, no worries either; that's just what happens, and buying silver somewhere in the $20's is still cheap compared to what it could be later on.

>>23841311
>massive austerity (extremely unlikely)
>massive rise in interest rates which magically does not crash the economy (impossible)
>Massive decrease in world wide monetary supply (extremely unlikely)
>Elon musk makes it possible to mine asteroids for under 2k /oz of gold (extremely unlikely, but best bet in the list)

>>23841676
MUX bagholder here, I agree they are undervalued at the moment, I expect them to catch up more q4 barring more catastrophes. Right now I suspect its mostly sentiment and worries about them being shut down by covid again since their area seems extra strict on covid protocols for work.

>>23841862
>>Massive decrease in world wide monetary supply
This actually happens a fair bit because of the eurodollar system that no one has control over. Dollar liquidity issues internationally arise often enough to be something to worry about and the Fed doesn't consider that in their policy. The Fed is a domestic institution. Nobody is making policy for the eurodollar system. It's the wild west.

>>23840994
I paid £35

>>23842071
I wouldn't sweat it, especially if you didn't have an American Silver dollar and like collecting coins. Please avoid slabshit in the future though, never worth the premium if you know how to shop for deals.

>>23841559
>>23841437
>>23840994
I though it looked better than ms63

>>23842193
It did put me over the 7kg silver mark though!

>>23842194
Maybe because it was cleaned/polished, but unfortunately it is not Uncirculated. In-hand you'd definitely be able to notice the difference. Don't worry about it though, when Silver moons everyone and their grandma would wish they mortgaged the house for £35 Silver dollars.

>>23842269
Maybe it was cleaned?

>>23842325
Reverse. What should I have paid for it out of interest?

>>23841637

We have inflation, not deflation, according to the Austrian definition of the term inflation as an expansion of the money supply; after all, the Fed is still doing more than $1 trillion a year in Q. E. But nevertheless, metals and miners have always done well in what people mistakenly call "deflationary" situations, i. e. when the price of assets goes down. The Fed doesn't even need to turn on the money-printer again for metals and miners to do well. Homestake Mining went up 6x during the Great Depression, and gold more than doubled. Modern stock market crashes have caused liquidity crises, which force the price of paper gold and silver down temporarily; but if such a thing happened again, it would be extremely short-lived. The COMEX nearly collapsed in the middle of March, and the real-world pressure of rich people trying to exit the financial ponzi scheme, has only grown since then. If silver went down to some silly price again the COMEX would simply go bankrupt, and then it would attain true price-discovery forevermore.

>>23842325
Wow that picture looks completely different than the first one, I'm confused now lol. Lots of bag marks/dings but it doesn't look cleaned in that pic.

>>23842389
I hit the ENHANCE button. Same coin though.

>>23842325
>>23842341
AU deets like I said, surfaces too busy for MS I think but I'm more conservative than most. Probably 30$?

>>23842435
Well it does look AU in those later pics, common pre-1921 Morgans in that condition will go for $30-40

>>23842511
>>23842569
Thanks guys, very informative!

>>23842386
Sorry Anon, but QE is not inflationary. It’s technically deflationary, but CAN be inflationary if banks in turn actually grow lending. Debt growth is inflationary, but QE is not. QE is just a fancy mechanism of creating bank reserves. That’s it. The institutions that participate in QE or any other asset purchase program don’t actually get cash from the sale of the assets. That cash goes into an a restricted account at the Fed in their name and only counts toward their reserves. That what most the the Fed’s balance sheet is. It’s not money freely flowing into the economy. It’s just bank reserves sitting under a mattress at the Fed. The only part that is actually inflationary is when the Fed monetizes Congressional budget deficits. So annual deficits get monetized as do the stimulus payments they passed as part of the CARES Act. The Fed can’t just go brrrr. That’s a meme. Believing in this meme actually helps the Fed do what they do because their only effective tool is PR and making people believe they are doing things that they actually can’t do that it has a self-fulfilling prophecy type effect. Sorry, but until we get more stimulus, deflation is where we are at. Money is not printed into existence. It is lent/borrowed into existence. Debt is currently being destroyed faster than it is being issued and that is deflationary. Tens of millions of people out of work is deflationary. More lockdowns are deflationary. Until Congress turns on the spigot for the mother of all stimulus bills, we will have deflation. Even moderate stimulus at this point will only temporarily ward off deflation and it has diminishing returns. Yes, we will eventually get inflation, but it requires Congress to act and act big. We are currently deflating as we wait for it.

>>23841266
Good times will come anon, make yourself better and the world will follow.

>>23842753
All you're saying is that we need fiscal policy along with monetary policy to see inflation. That's coming numb nuts! It already has because of the previous, and upcoming, stimulus

>>23842753
Genuinely wondering what the process would be called when foreign holders of ~27 trillion dollars start dumping them and prices rise as a result? I don't possess the granular technical vocabulary and would just call it muh inflation.

>>23842753
>but CAN be inflationary if banks in turn actually grow lending
BlackRock does this. Numerous other fucking corruption corporations DO THIS. Besides, it's not like it's been EXTREMELY fucking demonstrated that the government and Fed can just make up the rules on the fly to whichever way suits them.

Look, I understand the Bank and Government had this nice little Ponzi scheme between each other going for the last couple of decades, but it's run its course. People (Commies and BLM)WILL destroy everything, either literally by burning it down, or by simply catering the value of the USD.

TIME IS UP. Everybody pick a side or be swallowed by the coming storm.

>>23838598
How come the vangold stock isnt moving and it even dumped today 20%. Its been at 20 cents for months

>>23842940
Most people ignore the eurodollar system and think that countries could just dump the dollar if they wanted to. If they decided to dup the dollar, the entire global financial system would go nuclear. Too much of global debt is denominated in dollars, creating a steady demand for dollars. Ironically, the problem we most see is aa shortage of dollars in the eurodollar system and that creating problems, because the Fed doesn't recognize or take any responsibility for the system of offshore dollars, so it is completely neglected by the only entity that could influence (the Fed since it creates dollars). They do have swaps they set up with foreign central banks to try to alleviate some of these issues, but still no where near what you would think a central bank would be doing to maintain order...but the Fed disavows any responsibility over this MASSIVE monetary system that has MASSIVE influence on the global economy and literally no one at the wheel driving.
>>23842932
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But what I'm also saying is that the stop gap stimulus measures have diminishing returns and will reflate less and less for a shorter and shorter period of time. We are at the end of a long term debt cycle and we can't sustain this level of debt. So in order to fight against this wall of deflation, we will need to see them go to UBI or having the Treasury backstop all lending in order to get banks to start lending again enough to create inflation. But these things are so politically dangerous at the moment, that it will take economic pain in order to get Congress to that point. They have to be scared into doing big things. Currently, they haven't been scared enough. So that means that you should not at all be surprised if we see big moves downward at various points. We need to experience the deflation in order for them to do the things that will actually create the sustained inflation and maybe into hyperinflation. Nothing is automatic in this.

>>23842753
Dat stack. Hnnnnnggggg.

>>23843063
It hasn't happened yet. That's my point. I do think the MMT voices will get louder and louder as the Fed continues to fail. The game will be over and they will actually merge the Fed and Treasury and yeah, then we will be in some serious shit. Just don't expect it tomorrow because the controversial moves they will need to make will require some more pain first. Don't listen to Schiff and the printer go brrr folks expecting metals to moon and be confused when they actually go down. It's not manipulation making these big moves (although they sure as fuck manipulate the markets to farm bonuses). The metals prices do in fact move in big picture according to the broader macro trends, and those are deflationary...until the acts of man make them inflationary.

>>23843133
Not sure where you're getting that its hard to pass fiscal stimulus. We've had government deficit spending for years, and its been easier than ever to get voters on board with deficit spending.Hell republicans don't even care about deficit spending.

The point is: Deficit spending is funded by treasury purchases. This alone will lead to inflation. We don't need some grandeous stimulus plan to do it(although I think thats in the works too). So the government will just try to spend its way out of this reccession and thats impossible now, because of the diminishing returns you're talking about. They will print us to infinity.

>>23843133
You're not saying that there will be a dip bigger than March, right? The aid and stimulus passed earlier this year should definitely prop it up above those prices, correct?

>>23843066

Vangold isn't down, you must be looking at the illiquid OTC. Somebody accidentally did a market sell there and lost a lot of money. They're talking about it on ceo. The stock is up 30% since October, that's one month ago. You are mistaken when you say that it has been at 20 cents for months. In fact, I recommended it here two months ago, at the start of September, and it is up 50% since then.

https://ceo.ca/vgld

>>23842753

We have to be careful with our terms here. As I say, under the Austrian definition of inflation, inflation is an expansion of the money supply. So Q. E. is inflationary by definition. What I think you are trying to say is that Q. E. doesn't cause rising consumer prices, but that's actually a central-bank falsehood, and ShadowStats and the Chapwood Index give the lie to the notion; increase in consumer prices has been 10% per annum for many years now. You can read financial news articles from the early 2000s where they tell the same lies as they do today, claiming, "there's no inflation, central banks are desperately trying to get inflation but they simply can't manage"--and yet gold, the measuring-stick of inflation, has gone from $200 to $2000 since that point, so evidently there _has_ been enormous "inflation" (according to their definition of the term). The bankers always pretend as if inflation is the farthest problem from their minds because, if they acknowledged the existence of high inflation, the system would collapse very quickly. Hyperinflation is much more a psychological phenomenon than it is a direct result of monetary policy, and they know this. Q. E. means inflated bank deposits as well as an artificial increase in the price of bonds, which real investors then get rid of in exchange for dollars.

>>23843218
I personally think it's bank failures causing these metal moves. A anti-bubble is working it's way through the system as we speak. You can already see it in Turkey and other desperate countries. When it makes its way through these banks, they're forced to liquidate their gold holdings, which I have no doubt is being seized by whichever counterparty they owe these debts to. So in a way, the milkshake theorists are right, except every country who hasn't capitulated to one world power or the other now sees the writing on the wall.

>>23843133

China and Russia have so much gold that it doesn't matter to them that global debt is denominated in dollars any more. (See >>23835825.) The gain from dumping the dollar, and causing gold to become the new world-reserve currency, will bring them immense wealth and power, as against collecting the debts of those to whom they are the creditors. They have everything to win from the collapse of the dollar at this point. They are in full position to profit from it. And they despise America and have no desire to do it any favours.

>>23842325
>>23842341
Best thing your coin has going for it is that nice long die crack going around the top of the word UNITED, ending at the eagle's wing.

£35 was a bit too much, considering exchange rates, and you probably could've paid US$30 (do your own exchange math).

>>23840720
>get pics of the Russian's stuff when it arrives
For sure. (Same stacklet, btw, if my ID switched.)

>>23843630
I also ordered a few hundred bucks worth of Russian coins. Looking forward to receiving and posting them

>>23843295
The problem is that we are reaching the end of the debt cycle. Previously, deficit spending would be sufficient. But the deflationary forces are too strong for even deficit spending unless it is yuge. It will be hard, but that's where the pain comes in. When the Fed continues to fail and the pain becomes too much, THAT is when politicians do crazy things. That's when the MMT folks will get their way and it will be insane.

>>23843550
Oh, sweet. I wondered if that was an error of some kind. In the UK even really tatty morgans sell for £25+
My local dealer has aunc morgans for £60 regular dates

>>23843529
Is this why it is easily perceptible to Americans that Biden is obviously pro-China and that everything is pointing to the dollar losing reserve currency status while a strengthening China waits patiently? It seems like there are anti-American actors in the highest levels of our government who are helping facilitate a “smooth” transition of the reserve currency/debt scheme to another empire (China) while the US implodes.

>>23843355
Anything can happen when you are in a market that is really dependent on the whims of politicians. If they come out and pass UBI right away, no. No way we get to March levels. But does it take a March-like crash or worse to scare Congress enough to go with MMT and some kind of UBI or similarly inflationary policy? How much pain do we need to feel for them to act. I suspect big ups and downs as it will be a bumpy ride until they finally get that we can't just coast our way out of this.

>>23843820
>It seems like there are anti-American actors in the highest levels of our government who are helping facilitate a “smooth” transition of the reserve currency/debt scheme to another empire (China) while the US implodes.
Wait, did you think that there weren't any?

>>23843529
There would be too much collateral damage and in all likelihood a world war. The value of reserves is dwarfed by the overall economy. China's 5 year plan will indeed be to turn inward away from globalization, but it will be a process, not overnight. The unwinding of the eurodollar system will be 1) slowly over several years to the degree it can happen without creating instability, 2) through some kind of Bretton Woods type agreement with most of the world signing on, or 3) a major war involving major powers. But it just simply crashing? Even China would help keep that from happening. Central banks have no incentive to let that happen as we are all in a financial mexican standoff with massive counterparty risks. The derivatives would explode. It will be some kind of orderly unwinding or it will be a military adventure. Those are realistically the only options. It is just too big and too pervasive.

Anything happening this morning guys?

>>23843992
Meh, not really. Slow day all things considered.

>>23843820

I think that most people view Biden as pro-China because he doesn't believe in tariffs, unlike Trump. People think that tariffs are what you need to bring industry back to America. But high taxation and regulations are the cause of America's loss of manufacturing, not a lack of tariffs; tariffs, generally speaking, only do even more harm to the economy. Unless Trump is secretly on our side, and wants to return to the gold standard in his second term, then both Trump and Biden are pro-China, insofar as neither believes in a balanced budget, and hence taxes which are enormously lower than where they are now. They both believe in deficit spending and money-printing.

>>23843936

America couldn't fight a world war if China and Russia dumped the dollar. It doesn't have any manufacturing, so, without the dollar to buy things with, it would be left completely helpless. You need real wealth to fight a war, not empty paper. Additionally, I don't think that the process of the death of the dollar will be slow, because demand for physical metal on the COMEX is so overwhelming that many people think it will default as early as December; it can't keep going on for much longer, and, as soon as it does default, gold and silver will instantly reach true price-discovery, and do what Palladium did once its suppression ceased. Or again, imagine what will happen to the dollar if we get a black swan, like a banking crisis or a civil war in America.

>>23843550
even in canada there is a large premium on US coins, even easy to get things like cull morgans/mercs


latest picture here, traded in all the loose change and bottles for this 2020 leaf, now I just need that 2020 libertad to arrive from presale!

>>23844106
I'm trying to find a way to dodge the meme premiums we have
I'll get back to you if it works but it should let us get burger goods for under what we get charged, even after shipping + gst

>>23844195
def keep me in the loop anon, lots of yanks want canadian coins without the prem, and vise versa.

how many gold niggas killed themselves yesterday after that huge dump?

>>23832525
Alright lads I've decided to go from only physical to miners as well, but I'm in the UK: which website will give me the best access to the markets abroad?

>>23844106
I have a 2020 reserved too. Its going to be a collectable year.

>>23844272
This isnt SMG where everyone turns pink wojack on a dump... like anyone who is in to something good:

Price go up = yayyy profit!

Price go down = yayy cheapies

>>23844285
just do some google research, main things to look for are:
can you get both American and Canadian exchanges (most good miners are on the TSX, and might also be on NYSE, but some are TSX only)

How much you pay for commissions and fees (obviously try to minimize this)

Other then that just make sure you use an account that mitigates the taxes, not sure if England has the equivalent of a TFSA or RSP but look into that, dont be afraid to spend 20$ on some financial advice from an accountant

>>23844299
checked and very true... from things like bat bois/fafnir, to low mintage eagles and extremely low mintage libertads, in 50-100 years who knows what that stuff will go for. Never selling my 2020 stuff though.

is there a 2020 nippon coin at all or is asahi it?

>>23844261
Well I don't think that it'll work in reverse but I'm going to try and do up a process that enables leafs to use burger dealers that ship to Canada (namely APMex since everyone else is a cuck) and dodge most of the fees from couriers. Some stuff isn't economical to ship back, such as maple leaves, but common burger coins or other coins you can't really find in Canada would be accessible.

The biggest thing you'd get gyp'd on is the exchange rate, but even that isn't that bad if you use something like Bitcoin through Shakepay.

Tell me why I should NOT buy a golden brick right fucking now and sit on it for 10 years. Is there literally any downside at all?

i got some maple leafs
i cant believe how small an ounce of gold is. crazy to think a couple of these can buy a decent car

>>23844506
Careful, you might hatch a dragon that way.

International travelers, does it make sense to have small gold coins in your carry-on bag like pic related so they look like loose change? I figure if you have 2x1/4 and 5x1/10 you could have a divisible 1oz in case of emergency. In the metal detector it simply picks up a pouch of loose change.
Good idea or no? Could they tell it's gold without taking it out and looking at it?

>>23844506
Not really. It'll be worth more then a fucking Bond lmao.

>>23844546
Why would you need gold for an emergency?

>>23844299
im stoked for my 2020 libertiddies to come. congrats if you got/get any - they will be bought up instantly.
300k 1oz minted and 8900 5oz minted

>>23844603
Say hyperinflation breaks out while you are staying in another country. Or a civil war. Anything that makes people not want dollars.

>>23838431
>the perfect woman doesn't exis-

>>23844055
Can you please let China know tarrifs are hurting their economy

>>23844546
as long you don't go over 10k in combined currency/PMs while traveling you don't really have to really worry about confiscation. I would say it best to have a nice tube of 1/10ths if you need to trade in for fiat or barter for some service in a case of emergency. tho depending on where your traveling if someone catches words you have PMs on youre probably a dead man.

When you cannot acquire gasoline....
How was silver distributed in pay for a horse tending barn dweller & how was the upkeep handled?

Honestly expecting to be on horse back unironicly when trucking & supply chains shut down.
We have no oil refinery around my parts & very little drilling. Sitting on massive amounts of oil, but no way we are tapping in the next 4 - 40 years here in time to control an oil base for the regional area power play.

how to transmute lead into gold

>>23844967
Wood gasifiers anon, look at WW2 and postwar Japan and Europe. Interesting and technically simple if not a bit finicky.

>>23845055
I can’t help you with Lead but I can help you with Mercury

>>23845055
I can’t help you with Lead but I can help you with Mercury

>>23845055
Put lead in a gun, you should be able to trade it for gold pretty easily

>>23844285
Interactive brokers will give access to most markets, without the need to buy OTC shares with low liquidity

>>23845720
What's wrong with otc shares

>>23845758
Harder to buy or sell, sometimes a takes a few days for the transaction to complete, as they are fewer buyers or sellers. So you might miss the dip/peak sell

>>23845758
Like I said low liquidity, if you are placing big sell or buy orders they may not be filled and you miss out on opportunity to realise profit or buy cheaply. May not be a problem long term but sometimes it is useful to do a bit of trading if a security is overbought or oversold.

>>23845834
>>23845854

So I've been buying aunff and tkrff and you're saying I should be buying aun and tk instead? I use interactive brokers but would rather not have buy stock in CAD unless I have to

The main one I've had problems with is tinka, but impact and the others I usually don't have any issues buying or selling

>>23845915
It depends on what your strategy is and the size of your order compared to daily volume. If you don't have large positions and not planning to sell them in one go, then it may okay for you to hold otc

>>23845915
Not sure, I haven't bought/sold OTC shares exactly because I am afraid of the low liquidity risk.

>>23832815
Yeah, it's dead. When you look for libertads on their site, they should just show a picture of a fat Mexican in a sombrero laughing.

>>23833852
very nice stack, fren

>>23834167
They won't be hiding gold either, invest in bullets

Should I include some platinum to my stack?
And if so what would be a good ratio compared to gold and silver?
Currently I have 15oz gold, 600oz silver

>>23846014
>>23845960
So are you leafs or are you just comfortable with having a sizable portion of your portfolio in CAD?

>>23844055
So much bullshit
For first world nations to stay competitive you either have to dump wages (this is what globalists like most and what has happened the last decades, it destroys the middle-class makes them richer and xreates a slave caste), destroy regulation/taxation OR tarrif the shit out of china to make their bugeconomy less competitive (this is the best option as it makes waging in first world actually worthwhile)

To fight a war you need arms and manpower
Usa has the gigantic military industrial complex and makes his own arms, manpower is not as important anymore really

>>23847030

I suggest that you listen to this lecture by Irwin Schiff to understand how things used to be in America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PldyfV8QBcA

You don't need low wages to "be competitive." America was an industrial superpower at a time when wages were so excellent that a man could support a wife who stayed at home, along with a family, with the simplest of manufacturing jobs. The manufacturing then got destroyed by taxes and regulations.

As Schiff also explains, you can't fight a war without a manufacturing base, it doesn't matter how many expensive toys you own if you can't maintain them. He points out that America couldn't even provide shoes for its soldiers if there was a new draft, because it doesn't so much as make its own shoes any more. (Timestamp 22:45.) He then points out that all the ships which were damaged at Pearl Harbour were back in service after less than nine months. Now all the naval yards are closed.

>>23847030
>>23847232

Another important quote, from about 23:00:

"We've heard of Nero fiddled while Rome burned. We have a council of economic advisers. Couldn't they see our whole industrial base was disappearing? So what our government did was rationalize it. We're going into a service-sector economy. How many of you have heard of that? Well, go fight this new war with our services! It takes planes, it takes oil, it takes tanks--material THINGS."

>>23846773
Nah Dutchfag here, have some in EUR, pharma, barrick and first majestic. Also some dutchfag stack

can someone with a brain please tell me how the fuck Gold was up 1% today but GDX was down -3.4%??

>>23847365
Is it the same?

>>23847232
>at a time when wages were so excellent that a man could support a wife who stayed at home, along with a family, with the simplest of manufacturing jobs
Yea having working factorys when others do not does that, these times are over
>He points out that America couldn't even provide shoes for its soldiers
People already have shoes, they dont need fancy uniform boots, sneakers do too
Hell the vietcong fought in the jungle in rice sandals
You need weapons and food, rest is just luxury
>It takes planes, it takes oil, it takes tanks
Wow stuff that the usa still produce today

>>23847365
I was surprised that gdx wasn't down more yesterday when gold lost 5%

>>23846165
yea they were gone by this morning, they only had 500 1oz. just wait to see if JM SD provident or APjewmex gets em...it'll probably be soon if they do preorders

>>23847541
>>23847574


of course its not the same. i'm just looking for an explanation. usually they track together

>>23847555
>You need weapons and food, rest is just luxury
Will to fight is pretty handy too. Assuming you actually want to win.

>>23847232
>The manufacturing then got destroyed by taxes and regulations.
Yeah, nothing at all to do with other countries offering to do the manufacturing for lower cost, right?

>>23847555

>Yea having working factorys when others do not does that, these times are over

The truth is, America simply had a stronger economy in those days. A working man was able to support his wife all the way until the inflation crisis of the 70s and 80s, which caused the dollar to be downgraded in the eyes of the world.

>Wow stuff that the usa still produce today

With its feeble manufacturing base, enormous trade deficit, level of debt, destruction of its railways, shipyards, etc., America simply doesn't have the capacity to fight the rest of the world if it chooses to reject the dollar. I will continue to maintain that.

https://mises.org/power-market/us-military-isnt-invincible-it-thinks?page=1

>>23847785
America has working intercontinental nukes
Stop living 1900

>>23847706

Americans are currently living at the expense of the rest of the world, they are not injured by it. The low wages which these second- and third-world workers are paid are actually undeserved. When the dollar gets dumped, America's impoverishment will be the second- and third-world's enrichment. You presume that their workers are undercutting American ones, but the truth is that their workers already ought to be getting paid an enormous deal more. When the dollar gets dumped, there will be a wealth transfer from America to them; they will become just as rich as Americans become poor. Right now they are forced, by the petrodollar tyranny, to throw away their valuable commodities in exchange for worthless Federal Reserve notes. America is living under the delusion that it can simply buy things from foreigners for ever and ever with worthless notes which are backed by nothing, and expect them to keep putting up with it. It is precisely for this reason that China and other nations are getting ready to dump the dollar, and investors like Peter Schiff are investing in foreign equities. After the collapse, America is going to have to cut taxes and regulations, and build real wealth, in order to compete with everybody else, and only then will it revert to a good standard of living.

>>23847807
Ah yes America will just begin a nuclear world war

>>23847807
MAD worked.
Stop living 1980's.

>>23833521

I agree that silver is incredibly undervalued but I feel I should wait until ~$30/oz to buy so that I can short it at $30.001

>>23847984
Why are you in SLV? Get in physical. All silver that is under $200 an oz is cheap.

>>23847953
>>23847807

To be perfectly blunt, you are both wrong. Targeted bio weapons are the future, keeps infrastructure intact and extremely plausible deniability, + no way to fight back.

US is way ahead in this regard in every aspect except the will to use it.

>>23848030
>Targeted bio weapons are the future
This is true for offense, but threat of nuclear retaliation wins against every conventional army

>>23847953
Far more realistic than a conventional world war before we reenter mediaval age again

>>23848018

I'm pretty new but it seems like physical silver under $80,000/oz is pretty cheap. It's not like any other element in the universe can replace silver.

>>23848155
Threat of biological retaliation works in much the same way, plus if you are the most advanced nuke holder it wont matter, you are still vulnerable to a cheap dirty bomb. Those who are well advanced with bio weapons can neutralize / mitigate more primitive ones. You wont even know who to launch nukes at if you are hit by a bio weapon, and may not even know you have been hit until its much to late to trigger a response of any kind.

>>23841507

gold bags are so heavy

Currently baking new bread.

New Bread

>>23848376
>>23848376
>>23848376

>>23848309
>>23848384
Based

>>23848263
>You wont even know who to launch nukes at if you are hit by a bio weapon
In that case just launch at everyone. If you're going down, might as well go down swinging.

>>23848438
That isnt how people work anon...

>>23837285
I'll give it a look

>>23848018
those are funny numbers, you may want to stop calculating in us dollars or atleast state what the purchasing power of 1 USD would be compared to now.

>>23847365
pls respund

>>23844055
>But high taxation and regulations are the cause of America's loss of manufacturing, not a lack of tariffs; tariffs, generally speaking, only do even more harm to the economy. Unless Trump is secretly on our side, and wants to return to the gold standard in his second term, then both Trump and Biden are pro-China, insofar as neither believes in a balanced budget, and hence taxes which are enormously lower than where they are now. They both believe in deficit spending and money-printing.
Trump has been working toward reducing regulations, giving tax benefits to corps and defended key industries. Yes, they may be more likely to be his friends, however the industries still stand. Tariffs are universal to any country that exists today. It does get passed onto the people, but it levels out the playing field to foster domestic industry.

>>23834244
Friend I see you doing good work in the BTC shill thread, man I was somewhat rosy on bitcoin before but this has really opened my eyes. Thank you for this post

>>23835392
>>23835549

As a counterpoint, a lot of PM speculators hold 50 or so stocks as a way to diversify risk. Mining is never ever 100% and you can always get blown up by fire, flood, plague, earthquakes, politics, riots, terrorism, corruption, environmentalism, activism, general poor management decision making, etc... And it'll absolutely blindside you.

Some examples include Sandstorm getting blown up for having turkey exposure; Sandstorm was considered a sure bet royalty company for a while now.

Mcewen Mining getting blown up by the guys he hired to analyse the geology at one of his projects, who told him the veins run horizontally instead of vertically. Also getting floods and fires and their mines from some contractors fucking up. Rob Mcewen is as trusty of a name as you can get out there.

First Majestic's tax dispute with the Mexican Gov't requiring Nafta arbitration causing their stock to lag behind as all other producers have rocketted up this year.

This is just to name a few off the top of my head, and I think these companies have some fantastic management. But it's just mining, so you sometimes get fucked. That's just the risk.

Guys like Rick Rule hold smaller portfolios as they're able to stay absolutely on top of management and all newsflow so as to be able to sell on a dime. Regardless that's a pretty good portfolio on the risky side, depending on your exposure amount to the ETFs.

>>23841397
>Anon lays out a well thought out coherent argument
>DUDE YOU'RE A SHILL

I'm guessing you bought the absolute top, kek

>>23847365
>>23848743

They're not 1:1 correlated. It's that simple. Gold can get overbought or gold miners can get overbought within the shorter timeframes but overall they're highly correlated. You just need to be thinking in the long term.

>>23838462
Here's Tavi Costa and Quinton Henneigh diving deep into Defiance. The Geology looks very promising for finding something huge, and Quinton has a track record of finding world beater type assets.

>>23850751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQMAgyZj6ZY&ab_channel=CrescatCapital


>>23838462
>>23838598
Forgot link