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23765332 No.23765332 [Reply] [Original]

you were told

>> No.23765357

>>23765332
You're so smart anon. Thanks for posting this, never been posted here before over and over again

>> No.23765410

And then what? Everybody wins?

>> No.23765421

>>23765332
fraud

>> No.23765527
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>>23765332
can you do an altcoin stock to flow?

>> No.23765569

>>23765410
institutions will dump it around 2030 on millions of retards. bitcoin will be at the center of the next financial crisis

>> No.23765571

Why does the Stock to Flow model work for Bitcoin? WHY DOES IT DEFY PHYSICS?
Because Bitcoin is not a physical asset. It is BY DEFINITION an INTANGIBLE , mathematical model , an ELECTRONIC ENTITY that has a predictable supply . NEVER BEFORE have we seen an asset that is ABSOLUTELY PREDICTABLE . That is why these "analysts" who have only worked with traditional assets are wrong. We know for certain Bitcoin the EXACT block reward that is released every 10 minutes, we know every 4 years the block reward is halved, causing a supply shock that is only felt by the market months later, we know the absolute supply of bitcoin. THE SAME CANNOT BE SAID FOR GOLD, or any other precious metal. NO ONE knows the supply of Gold on this planet, NO ONE knows WHEN the supply of Gold is restricted, or where the bottlenecks are in production. You almost ALWAYS get RANDOM FLUCTUATIONS in the production of the Gold from both the production and technological advancements in mining. PHYSICAL ASSETS ARE IN SUMMARY, UNPREDICTABLE. There are TOO MANY VARIABLES AT PLAY. UNLIKE BITCOIN. That is why Stock to flow works for bitcoin. And to anyone who thinks the price is not affected by the supply in a monetary network that has reached critical mass, you better read up on supply and demand, a very basic market dynamic.

>> No.23765592

>But s2f only works if it assumes demand is constantly increasing

No it doesn't. Demand SIMPLY has to STAY CONSTANT for it to work. The s2f is an ELASTIC model that reflects the reaction of the market to a SHOCK IN SUPPLY, WHICH IN THIS CASE, IS PREDICTABLE. The secondary driving force behind the demand in S2f IS THE NETWORK EFFECT explained below:
Because Bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency thus far that has REACHED CRITICAL MASS, the Network effect dictates that the first network to reach critical mass is the winner-take-all , in a monetary sense, it becomes unfavourable to hold any other coin than Bitcoin due to the size of the network and the effortless crystallisation that follows when a developing nucleus achieves critical mass. This ORGANIC GROWTH is the secondary market force that DRIVES the constant demand and hence S2F. By saying “why don’t altcoins follow s2f but Bitcoin won’t?” Is like saying why does my garbage not follow stock to flow when Bitcoin can follow it?

>S2F is flawed because it assumes newly mined coins are immediately for sale

The model represents the theoretical price of Bitcoin and what it would be if there was no time-lag between supply shocks and the market’s reaction to the supply shock. Every single cycle before 2020 has shown that there was always a time-lag in the reaction of the market to the sudden increase in the stock to flow ratio. The model therefore realistically predicts a price of $20,000 USD by year end of 2020.

>But S2f predicts Bitcoin reach one trillion dollars?

Answer this question: what is the ceiling to the amount of money that can be arbitrarily printed by the federal reserve or any central bank of any country? The answer is there is no ceiling. What this number represents, is the death of fiat currency due to the mass adoption of Bitcoin, instead of what Bitcoin is worth in TODAY’S USD worth.

>> No.23765651

>>23765569
And then everybody would buy the dip and it would go even higher. Do you realize how retarded you are?

>> No.23765715

>>23765592
this is true but the part about holding other cryptos only applies to the knock offs that are just shitty versions of bitcoin with less security.
other tokens that offer real utility are more similar to "stocks" vs bitcoin as a commodity

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>>23765651
do you?

>> No.23765782

>>23765715
agreed. Bitcoin is booting up to be money. If we're only looking at the monetary value of a cryptocurrency, then Bitcoin is the winner take all.

>> No.23766054

Problem is by 2026 $1m will only buy you a potato.

>> No.23766164

>>23765569
>institutions will dump it around 2030 on millions of retards
And who shall be that? Why are you even talking abput dumping at this point global adoption should be achieved and the dollar nonexistant

>> No.23766189

>>23765332
NOOO I DIDN'T ACCUMULATE ENOUGH YET STOP GOING UP YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>> No.23766200

cope
its already been proven wrong

>> No.23766212

>>23765782
Buttcoin is useless as a currency. The only true cryptocurrency is USDT. Anything else is useless.

>> No.23766230

>>23765332
Bitcoin is so retarded, so dumb to try to use

but if it makes money... who cares I guess

>> No.23766733
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23766733

>>23765332
I'll laugh so hard when it dump back to sub 10k

>> No.23766748 [DELETED] 

>>23765332
I just made a discord because I want to be able to talk cwypto with biz anons

GUSYd8Jf

>> No.23766763

>>23766733
I've been laughing at you for the last 10 years.

Btw, you had 10 years ;)

>> No.23766786

Are we getting a dip before 20K?
I got my first whole BTC, but now I am basically priced out if it keeps going up. I have about 3k more I wanna throw at it.

>> No.23766809

>>23765571
Dude.. you fucking had 10 years

>> No.23767026

>>23765357
You had 11 years

>> No.23767042
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23767042

>>23766763
The dump will be glorious.

>> No.23767122

>>23767042
the amount of companies cropping up in crypto and institutions looking to put a toe in is 100 times higher than when btc hit the previous ATH.

>> No.23767153

>>23765332
imagine ignoring this

>> No.23767183

>>23767026
Yes. And I bought? You had xx years to grow braincells

>> No.23767220

>>23766230
not too hard but for retards it is. it would be way easier if it was mostly focused on sending dollar amounts instead of .029384381238 btc

>> No.23767271

>>23767042
Yeah the dump from 50k to 30k is gonna suck

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>>23767271
>He thinks there is going to be dumps

Stock to flow is fud, bitcoin now has lower inflation than real estate.
Has real estate ever went down since the gold standard was abandoned in 1971?NO

And bitcoin won't dump ever again neither. every time bitcoin goes up it's fiat dumping , (and real estate is going up as well as bitcoin).
This is why bitcoin is reacting to the dxy index so well.

>> No.23767443

Bitcoin doesn’t need to be a functional day to day currency, there are already coins far better suited. The real value proposition is in storing vast wealth in a safe and secure way, you can’t store 100mil in non fiat e.g. gold easily because it needs a huge arse vault. BTC isn’t there yet but it is starting to be a solid alternative to fiat, gold or stocks.

If you need to buy coffee or dildos you just sell a fraction of a bitcoin and that for a year.

>> No.23767790

>>23765569
this isn't gold retard. you can't fake the supply.

>> No.23767947

>>23765571
Most predictions have been wrong. Lot of people said it should be 100k by now

>> No.23768626

>>23767947
Lot's of predictions have been wrong, because many of these people did not look into the fundamental driving forces behind adoption and the network effects that come from that, and the supply and demand dynamics that result from having a halving event. They simply looked at it as a non-stop lift into space. People like John McAfee etc. Stock to flow is the first true model that is based upon sound monetary network fundamentals

>> No.23768672

>>23767443
YOU DONT SELL FAGGOT

Take a small % of your fortune and put it to work for an interest.

Use the interest to pay your dildos.

That’s how chads do it. Bitch

>> No.23768710

>>23765592
do you unironically have a blog because this is based

>> No.23768735

>>23768626
“Sound monetary network fundamentals”
Are you retarded ?

Sound money means an asset that doesn’t lose value because the market pays the same regardless of the outcomes.

Is a deflationary currency that always be worth the same.

It’s a theory and it doesn’t exist yet.

Bitcoin can become sound money when it decouples completely from the stock market, but that means a huge market cap and a lot of regulation.

Ether in the other hand can become sound money as soon as transactions starts burning ether like in Phase 1.

There’s not something called “sound monetary network fundamentals” that’s something you pulled out your ass to sound to brag about your stupidity.

>> No.23769381

>>23765571
>>23765592
DR;NS

>> No.23769425

>>23768672
do you unironically have a blog because this is based

>> No.23769543

>>23765332
>you were told
Please keep updating this chart and posting it here every so often. Im curious how well it holds up. Looks like bull market should be ending around early to mid 2022.