/biz/ - Business & Finance

UVXY

I bought SQQQ. cheers to a quick profit, cheapies, and a rally next week!

praise c

FUTURES PFFFAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i cant stop following the schizo posts on yahoo finance

something about a loser selling at $6.18 and another schizo who keeps rubbing it in

Gamestop online order numbers are sequential. If you have a selection of online orders from Gamestop you can calculate the total order flow.

Protip: $200M+ in Q3 alone.

IT'S STILL FUKCING GOING DOWN JUST FUCKING CLOSE ALREADY YOU PIECE OF SHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

So when’s the drop?

How much will we moon when Biden wins?

holy shit i cant focus and i have work to do

Closed a position to have some cash, what cheapies are the best

I'll short whatever ticker is in my ID tomorrow

>1000 shares available @ 12.8%

xth for CNBC has spent literally all day gobbling democrat cock

>>23706595
birds are such bullies

So my calls are gonna get IV fucked hard tonight, right?

>>23706638
>FWJ
Berlin Stock Exchange

>only 1000 shares left to borrow at close on GME
wew

I'm about to vote. Who do I vote for?

What stream should I watch for the erection? Is there a stream with based and redpilled naked babes painting the states on each other's tits as they're called?

>>23706685
William T. Sherman

>>23706685
Terry Crews

Does he even realize that his son is dead?
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1323725227487100928

>>23706679
its now at 200

>>23706638
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/quote/LFW%3DF/

>>23706685
Donald J Trump and Michael R Pence
t. Canadian who got cucked by Trudy

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

B R O S

Is NIO the new TSLA?

Should I sell TSLA and go full in into NIO?

>>23706701
You think anything will happen? I'm not sure

ITS OVER
BIDEN WIN GUARANTEED
SELL SELL SELL
BIDEN WON FLORIDA
SELL SELL SELL
4 YEARS OF LOCKDOWNS

Biden rambling on cnn about swimming pools and black churches lol they need to cut him off

>>23706593
I know man, those dudes are fucking insane.

>>23706711
thoughts on Trudeau's latest immigration policy to welcome 500k immigrants/yr for the next 3yrs?

>>23706721
NKLA

>>23706735
What causes someone to make a post like this

Where can I get a live election map that shows counties and also compares them to 2016?

>>23706756
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA but not unexpected because it's fucking trudy

>>23706762
Aren’t they a scam?

>>23706735
Fuck off, Chang!

>>23706762
When did Nuka cola ipo?

>>23706735
Zero results are reported anywhere lol

>>23706591

https://www.strawpoll.me/21203026/

>>23706756
cold hard truth is that if you're rich you want immigrants to keep coming in
if you own a house, you need immigrants to keep flowing in to sustain the bubble

i still vote conservative though because Trudeau is a retard
how the fuck does someone get away with like three blatant conflict-of-interest scandals
like legit embezzling and he gets away with it because he is young and photogenic

>>23706734
at this point the squeeze is a fucking meme but last time the shorted percentage of shares was this high end of august there was a nice bump up in the share price right after so the same thing might happen which might trigger fomo and then then console excitement too so maybe we break 16 leading up to q3 report but I dont know if it will stay up or sell off before and then when it comes out breaking expectations it will skyrocket in january 2021 according to my napkin assumptions based on less than a year of /biz/ lukring

>>23706735
hoes mad but election day data in florida aint looking good for Trump

>>23706645
check again its 200

>>23706700
lmao, this is unironically why if you're a dem you should vote for him, because you know he won't be in charge of anything, they'll only wheel him out once a month to give a 30 second speech and the dem establishment will run everything for him.

IS intel trash or no

TRUMP IS UP 20 POINTS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. LANDSLIDE INCOMMING!!! I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO OUT AND WAIT IN LINE NOW!!!

>>23706778
OH CANADA
>Tue., November 3, 2020, 12:28 p.m. PST

Online platforms like Netflix and Spotify may end up spending more than $800 million on Canadian content over the next three years under a series of policy changes the federal government has proposed in a new bill Tuesday.

The proposed changes to the Broadcasting Act are meant to ensure online streaming platforms experiencing booming revenues face the same regulations as traditional broadcasters, which have seen profits decline in recent years.

"A separate system for online broadcasters simply doesn't work. This outdated regulatory framework is not only unfair for our Canadian businesses. It threatens Canadian jobs and it undermines our ability to tell our own Canadian story," said Heritage Minister Steven Guilbeault at an Ottawa press conference.

>"The government believes that everyone who benefits from the system should contribute to it fairly."

>>23706820
yes but they buy their own shares back using billions so it kind of stays afloat.

>>23706830
Pls go out and vote. Don't let anyone fool you.

I have 3K cash. Do I buy anything EoD?

2000 TQQQ and 1000 SQQ?

It'll probably do kangaroo spikes and drops tomorrow and can cash both out.. Right?

What did he mean by this

>>23706816
>at this point the squeeze is a fucking meme
i agree, this is why i plan to cash out around 30% of my position at ~$20 to cover my cost basis then i can just let the rest ride out as PURE PROFIT

pretty sure ~$20 is actually a sane price target, heck probably really conservative actually, after the MSFT partnership. If ther was no MSFT partnership i would have trimmed at $15

>>23706593
>>23706741
The comments are mostly worthless, I only check them as a last resort if the price action can't be explained by other sources

>>23706551
Why did it pump so much today? Expectation of certain winner?

>>23706700
I get that people hate trump but who will vote for this man.
I secretly think joe Biden is just proxy to get Kamala harris in office because the democrats couldn’t get her to win.

>>23706846
Kneepads

>>23706840
If Trump is up 20 points in New Hampshire this shit is over. He can flip California with this kind of support.

>>23706846
try it and let us now

>>23706700
The fuck?

>>23706830
>>23706840
nah don't vote bro you know he has it in the pocket just bet all your money on him getting 60%-65% of the popular vote on BetFair and you'll be rich

>lost like 20% of my portfolio in a week betting against this gay clown market
f-fuck

>>23706833
lol

hey if it puts money into Canada that's good

a landslide...gee, who would have guessed... it's always the same thing this is even easier than 2016

>>23706872
reload the page?

>>23706833
> it undermines our ability to tell our own Canadian story
I can't believe they say that with a straight face.

>>23706816
Nice, thanks!

>>23706872
reload, happens all the time be Twitter are retards

>>23706819
On the other hand, you could build a second White House, put Trump in there, let him pretend to still be president and he wouldn't even notice.

I don’t care who wins bros I just wanna see a circuit breaker on futures. I wasn’t here in March...

>>23706875
Same bro. It's gonna drop soon r-r-right?

>>23706833
>This outdated regulatory framework is not only unfair for our Canadian businesses. It
So the regulations you have are outdated.... so your solution is to force them on even more businesses?

>buy TLT in my options account
>use it as collateral for short puts
>write calls on TLT as well
How smart is this? I don't see the downside.

the only good thing about canada is the gibs are generous and the TFSA exists, with expert leeching you could go straight from gibs to retirement

>>23706911
>911
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE???!

>>23706875
stop betting, we're respectable investors here, not gambling addicts

>>23706909
and his fans would put stickers on their pickup trucks that read "Trump STILL is MY president"

>>23706857
It pumped because some anon bought SQQQ.

>>23706857
Part of me thinks everyone and their mom is buying stocks expecting them to rocket after Trump wins. The other part of me (with a shitload of puts currently bleeding me dry) thinks it'll drop like a rock in a day or two.

>>23706933
*CRA teleprots behind you and claims your earnings as business earnings*

psshh nothing personnel kid

>>23706951
I keep hearing this meme. Is it true?

>>23706948
Fed meeting next 2 days, whatever pump we get will be killed by Jerome talking about niggers

>>23706685
cut out the middleman and write in Benjamin Netanyahu.

>>23706700
>TIM APPLE

>>23706958
Search around, some people do get the CRA on them, because they either A. Made a shitton of money or B. Make multiple trades a day

>>23706946
wouldn't buying SQQQ dump since it's an inverse?

>bought high
>pre election crash -50$
>currently at draw

The fuck am I supposed to do

>>23706969
What do you mean?

>>23706856
no you dont understand

there's some schizo with multiple accounts who has been nonstop posting about some other schizo and it's like an endless argument ever since I started looking at yahoo finance in August
it's like a bunch of boomers trying to /pol/ post but cant say anything NSFW, i cant help but keep following it

>>23706987
Define shitton of money. I'm just a poorfag with a 4 digit portfolio. Am I at risk of being raped by CRA?

>having fun getting wasted while watching the election results with some bros
>drinking 6 beers on a tuesday midday and midweek
>tfw forgot to buy uvxy before close

>>23706927
when you write a put you have to put up cash, since you're giving them the option to sell you shares at the strike, fucking retard.

So BABA is permanently fucked now?

>>23707015
Justnormiethings

>>23707012
https://www.moneysense.ca/save/investing/cra-tfsa-accounts-court/

If you've got six figures and don't make a billion trades you shouldn't worry, it's super gay though

>>23706855
my same thoughts people are looking at the order #s and estimating 3.9M online orders for q3 2020 so we are still below average multiple of .4 so shit should pop when people realize bankruptcy isnt for another 7 years at least and thats if they completely fuck up somehow

>>23707042
this fucking guy

>>23706992
Cannabro here. Invest in the AMERICAN Cannabis market.
>IIPR-sells shovels to gold miners
>GTBIF-Owns Central/NorthWest
>TCNNF-Owns FL
>CURLF-Owns Midwest/NorthEast
>PLNHF- The Cannabis Entertainment Complex located on the strip of Nevada

Just a friendly reminder. Biden trannies we going to continue posting that they won in an increasingly nervous manner all the way up until he loses.

>>23707038
It's a margin account. I can use equities as collateral and don't need pure cash.

>>23707042
Kang, i kneel.

I sold all my fucking dollars to cash in last week

>>23707012
i wouldn't worry even if you had a 6 digit portfolio as long as you aren't straight up daytrading and raking in too much tax-free money from selling premiums

If you just get lucky a few times, it's basically winning the lottery in their eyes and Canada doesn't tax lottery/casino winnings

>>23707042

I bought AAPL today

>>23707095
Same I'm a dumbass

>>23707103
Now sell it and buy MSFT.

so is GME just a leveraged etf now

>>23707103
probably not a bad play with their event on tuesday. i just hope you left some cash in case of election volatility sending us down for a bit

>>23706911
lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>23707059
>>23707100
Alright cool thanks frens. If I ever do grow my portfolio to 6 figures, I'll strictly just sell covered calls and buy LEAPS.

>>23707124
Yes, 3x short shorts

>>23706482
"holding" puts I wrote makes the daily balances look really weird.
+$3,600, or +1.80%

>>23707124
Always has been. 3x up some days and 3x down other days.

>>23706756
Trudeau is a traitor who wants to destroy the country. He is a card carrying globalist NWO devotee. That is why he wanted a better position in the UN so badly. That is why he is importing the third world at unprecedented pace.

>>23707015
STOP

LONGING

VOLATILITY

YOU

FUCK

literally just wait for it to go up then short it with the ability to short more and handle margin calls, *just in case*. it is LITERALLY rigged to go down idk why i have to keep posting this shit to you retards but i will keep doing so.

>https://sixfigureinvesting.com/2016/10/is-shorting-uvxy-tvix-vxx-the-perfect-trade/

why is the boomer dow going up so much lately compared to my zoomer tech

>>23707076
no

How do I filter cannabro on 4chanX?

>>23707113
Why

I missed dingdingchan. Up 3.20% today largely due to NIO, TSLA, NVDA, and ARKK.

I bought BABA at 291 because I've wanted some for awhile and I saw it was down while I was taking a shit at work today. What's going on with BABA?

>>23707208
missed him in the last thread

>>23707208
China's end game goal of corona was to fuck over other markets while making theirs stronger. It's finally come to fruition chinese market stronger than ever and everyone else still having lockdowns.

>>23707208
The IPO of AntFinancial got delayed

I WANT GME TO FUCKING DIE HORRIBLY TOMORROW. I WANT THOSE CHEAPIES

>>23707181
>literally just wait for it to go up then short it with the ability to short more and handle margin calls,
Your own article:
>And a lot of people short these funds; it’s a crowded trade—to the point where it’s sometimes not possible to borrow the shares to short them.
I guess "sometimes" means "when it spikes".

>>23707181
holup...is there any reason not to do long expiration puts on SQQQ?

>>23707226

I cannot believe the absolute faggotry that happened today with these two massive fake pumps in the morning and the afternoon only to be completely wiped by the EOD sell.

>>23707181
What about based the VXZ mid-term VIX play? It seems to go up on volatility and never really come back down

>>23707208
I bought TSLA at 436 because I wanted to long and didn’t buy at 380 last week.

>>23707242
I know. I hope you're bearish frens

>>23707178
Canada has no gold. Their currency is absolutely fucked. The country will fall.

So how much did all of you faggots get rekt who bought puts?

the market is going to crash whoever wins tomorrow at open

>>23707247
Why didn't you sell 380 puts instead?

>>23707276
I always say I'm gonna hedge and never do. Today I hedged. I believe what you're saying 100% though. Tonight will be interesting.

>>23707208
>-- On pace for largest percent decrease since Jan. 29, 2015 , when it fell 8.78%
>-- Earlier Tuesday, Alibaba's shares fell after China called a sudden halt to the world's biggest initial public offering, Ant Group Co. Alibaba , which owns a 33% stake in Ant, said in a statement that it will be proactive in supporting its sister company, and will help Ant "adapt to and embrace the evolving regulatory framework"
>-- On pace for second largest percentage decline since its 2014 IPO
>-- Currently down three of the past five days

i don't trust China but to be fair it's around the price where i'd at least start DCA'ing in if i really wanted to get into it. just did a quick check on the live news in ToS on it. depends what you think of that in terms of FA, idk the in-depth FA on it myself but here's the chart.

is there another TA anon here or am i the only one posting charts? im just wondering if i can take up the mantle or if i should go by KeltnerAnon or something. seriously though the 200 hour SMA and 200 daily SMA are really powerful, again really good video with timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caLyY6kNihw&feature=youtu.be&t=2448

>>23707291
Because TSLA is crazy as fuck and I don’t trust it in the short term

>>23707299
I sold some calls on my holdings for a little hedge. Hopefully enough. If not, oh well

>>23707231
This might actually be genius. Either that or fully retarded.

I'm worried Trump might lose. I felt way better about this 4 years ago. That was a magical night.

Guys "Shy" Trump voters have erased Biden's lead in Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina and Iowa. It looks like my model is accurately predicting this election.

>>23707341
I went to sleep positive that hilldawg would win.

>>23707313
>im just wondering if i can take up the mantle or if i should go by KeltnerAnon or something
pls dont

>>23707345
Trump will win at least 2/3 of michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota

>>23707258
tbf if Canada needed gold we have a fuck ton of it on federal land, it's just still in the dirt

>>23707375
how long until its cheaper (likely due to volume) to mine gold on an asteroid then in the dirt under our feet?

>>23707345
What are you following? There's a huge media clampdown going on right now.

>>23707313
I like you and all but please don't become a dumb namefaggot or tripfaggot

>>23707362
Nobody likes Hillary. People have no strong feelings about sleepy Joe on the other hand. I don't know, could go either way.

>>23707102
KEK it actually looks like may as well

>>23707345
Biden never had a lead. The lying media needs to be prosecuted for their crimes (treason, bribery, defamation, election melding, violations of the constitution, incitement to violence, conspiracy to commit murder, arson, grand theft, market manipulation).

>>23707362
>hilldawg
I was at uni 4 years ago and the moment my boomer professor referred to her as "Hilldawg" I knew Trump had it in the bag. I still remember the salt going to class the next day. That was a glorious time

>>23707387
when we get to that point, we'll all be NEETs living off UBI (at least in 1st world countries)

>>23707387
Starship is the next step leap in space. Elon's targeting a five order of magnitude cost decrease over conventional rockets. If that works, the doors are blown open to space.

>>23707375
>we
You mean the chinese. They've been buying multiple federal gold sites in the past year alone.

>>23707009
Yeah I see him everywhere

He is fucking insane

>USDJPY did precisely what I expected, but the spread shot up 10x at 5pm and triggered my stop
I clearly have more to learn, but this is doing great overall.

Link for those that wanna see election bullshit
https://electionnight.news/channel/the-alex-jones-show

>>23707441
That'll be nationalized when the inevitable big Pacific war kicks off, if the government has any sense. But I don't assume they do. If China and America fight over Canada I'm defecting immediately to the States.

>>23707076
> Actually believing these are the biggest
You need to do research, just because a companies the biggest public company doing something doesn’t mean they’re remotely close to the biggest name doing something.

>timing the bottom
why is it so difficult bros and why does it feel so good when you get it

>>23707456
Pic related, the trade in question.
Who else /forexgang/ here?

>>23706990
it's a joke
/biz/ and 4chan are retarded, so anything an anon expects causes the opposite

>>23707437
what does starship utilize that conventional rockets dont? right now it costs about $11K to send 1lb payload into space

>>23707387
It takes decades and millions just to set up a mine on Earth. We're centuries away from asteroid mining.

>>23707463
This is the same reason (one of them anyways) that Virgin Galactic is a shitstonk with terminal value of zero by 2024.

So when do we get the actual winner? I really just want this election to stop getting shoved in my face

>>23707477
Because it's a higher-end version of winning money at the slot machines.

>>23707345
votes no longer matters, new york times decides who is the winner :)

so where can I see real time data on the election without media jews spinning it?

>>23707484
Reusable hardware, which is 95% of the cost of a launch.

>>23707513
Trump wins at 7pm, immediately starts campaigning for 2024.

>>23707345
>"Shy" Trump voters

>>23707484
Conventional rockets are rockets. You fire them once and they fall into the ocean. Every rocket ever flown except Shuttle (which dropped a big orange tank and boosters every flight) and Falcon 9 (which drops the upper stage but lands the lower) has fallen into the ocean (China drops stages on villages, I shit you not). Starship is fully reusable, upper and lower stage. So you're not throwing away half a rocket. Imagine the cost of an airline ticket if you threw away all the engines every flight.

Starship can be reusable hundreds of times, all parts of it. The exception is this hilarious lunar lander, which can't return to Earth because it lacks the heat shield.

>>23707513
mid December

>>23707521
your system is a joke

>>23707228
really depends how many shares you're shorting. us retailers don't short all that many, as someone who has done it a lot with thousands of shares it's really not as big of a deal as they make it out to be. maybe it's a big deal for funds idk. you also want to have a method (like, again, keltner channel on the hourly or daily) to know when it's "high", or just historical values (hint: VIX itself, at 40+, is high, backtest it yourself, then compare to the VXX or UVXY or whatever you want, RIP TVIX. 80+ is literally apocalyptic and only happened in 2008 and covid, a.k.a. once in a decade essentially. before that? 1987. yeah.) you'll be fine for liquidity, trust me on this. the key here is being able to handle a covid or 2008 type scenario, *just in case*. as rare as it is you don't want to get margin called and fucked on something that is literally rigged (look up in contango) to go down. high volatility is LITERALLY unsustainable, as a phenomenon, like gravity is to physics. high volatility can literally, LITERALLY never last, idk how else to stress this fact. but if you short you must be able to handle holding and maybe DCA'ing just in case shit really hits the fan for a bit. your strat for that is up to you.

otherwise it's literally free money. here i can show you in pic related if you want to not include the covid crash for some recent examples. notice a pattern, anon? except that VXX is even worse than this in terms of downtrend because of in contango.

in short: if you short the VXX or UVXY it's free money as long as you can handle margin calls and time it on volatility spikes. that's it. that's the long and short story.

Wew, lads! Glad I didn't buy today!

>>23707527
>https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-us-election-results
this just reports the state-by-state results

WHEN I WAS A YOUNG BOY...

>>23707540
>>23707484
Here's a Starship (slightly older render) compared to a Saturn V and a Falcon 9. It's welded together in a field out of stainless steel by Mexican workers, which brings the costs down somewhat compared to the clean rooms of ULA and Boeing.

Both the upper and lower halves return. The upper half is a spaceship that can be refueled and sent to Mars. The lower half flies back to the launch site, so it can be refueled and launch another Starship.

>>23707572
>https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-us-election-results
Nice thank you.

How close is Starship to reality? This is Serial Number 8. SN9 and SN10 are well underway, and they've got most of the ring segments done for the booster. It will fly a 20km test flight in early November.

>>23707341
>I felt way better about this 4 years ago
Really? Trump's early numbers were worse back then. Voting day evening was dicey until Florida turned red.

>>23707578
I TRIED TO LISTEN

>>23707578
>pic

>>23707582
>It's welded together in a field out of stainless steel by Mexican workers, which brings the costs down somewhat compared to the clean rooms of ULA and Boeing.
It's going to have more accidents than the shuttle, isn't it

>>23707578

>>23707521
>the role of declaring a winner of the presidential election in the US falls to the news media

I've been clearing my throat a lot the past few days, is that COVID?

>>23707578
MY FATHER, HE TOOK ME TO THE CITY

>>23707622
The mexican thing is a meme, it's local Texans because ITAR. They have made excellent progress!

>>23707601
We should test it out on Iran.

>>23707639
TO SEE A MARCHING BAND

>>23707639
TO SE A MARCHING BAND

>>23707642
Ah, never mind then.

>>23707643
They're going to fly a trial for the Department of Defense as basically a giant missile full of space marines, yes. It can do 50 tons plus, anywhere in the world in thirty minutes. And then you can refuel it and send it back for more.

Imagine a Space Force Starship with just a simple point defense laser, something the Navy already uses.

We are living in the best and worst future.

>>23707559
before you ask:
>what's the catch?

the catch is you have to be able to account for pic related, the covid crash in march. it's an extreme, and i mean EXTREMELY, rare event. once a decade like i said. rare enough that if you actually follow the news and current events, you should know this might happen well ahead of time (like the elections, their possible contention, and possible, albeit unlikely, civil war, lmao). note how the shit drops like a rock afterwards? yeah. that's volatility for you. that's how it works. it always goes down in the long run. high volatility can never be sustained, remember that. and this was an event that literally priced in the death of all humanity, the second black plague. it's important to consider the FA on this, how powerful it was at the time. it's also important to consider on the daily time frame where the VIX was at 80+ and where the SPY was, because it basically called the bottem, as i will also repeat to you fellow anons. if we get another crazy crash like that, 80+ VIX is where you want to start DCA'ing into shit for the long haul, because either that's the bottom or we're all legit dead.

i've studied and backtested this shit a lot so feel free to ask questions. im getting drunk tonight while watching election results so you may not get another chance. volatility is really interesting and it makes sense the jews don't let us trade the VIX directly because it's basically free money if you understand it. if i could i'd long VIX at around 10-20 every time but i can't. backtest for yourself if you don't believe me.

>>23707639
TO SEE A MARCHING BAND

>>23706721
All in TSLA.

NIO might be, I may diversify.

>>23707678
>>23707663
>>23707657
>>23707639
HE SAID, "SON WHEN YOU GROW UP, WOULD YOU BE THE SAVIOUR OF THE BROKEN, THE BEATEN AND THE DAMNED?"

>>23707540
This will never work in its current configuration and you should stop being a simp for a hype man and his hype company.
>t. Mechanical Engineer

>>23707657
>>23707663
HE SAID SON, WHEN YOU GROW UP WOULD YOU BE THE SAVIOR OF THE BROKEN THE BEATEN AND THE DAAAAAMMMMNED?????

>not pouring at least 10% of your net worth into AMD
Lisa kicked out the pajeet cancer and has an amazing lineup both now and for the future in all fields they're competing.
Best case scenario and AMD reaches nvidias marketcap in 5-10 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iNbnineUCI
Why the fuck was $ZIV delisted?

>>23707636
You're just an old man now
https://youtu.be/7d6NmnUYXIA

CNN just reported exit poll that 31% of those voting for Biden were voting not for their candidate but against the opponent. You don't win elections by voting against.. you win elections by voting for..

>>23707678
>>23707657
HE SAID:"SON WHEN YOU GROW UP"

>>23707534
Shy trump voters are a real thing
>Who do you vote for? Are you voting for the right candidate or are you a nazi?
Uhhm my vote is private

>>23707015
Did you jerk each other off after all those midweek beers?

>>23707714
Not with sitting Presidents. It's normal that people will vote for the opposition because they didn't like certain desicions.

>>23707707
AMD seems like a good idea.

>>23707702
>>23707705
HE SAID, "WILL YOU DEFEAT THEM?"

>>23707714
>only 20% polled report being worse off than 4 years ago

>>23707739

How can the market tank anyway when we're back to stimulus talks next week? Nobodys gonna unload their whole portfolio when we have a 2nd round of gibs coming. Are bobos just stupid?

>>23707756
>>23707705
>>23707702
>>23707678
>>23707657
>>23707639
lmao I love u

>>23707772
You still believe the stimi shit?

>>23707756
YOUR DEMONS AND ALL THE NON-BELIEVERS?

>>23707636
sounds like post nasal drip

do you get it during allergy season or when you drink/eat certain things?

>>23707755
Why is that

>>23707784
I bet he still thinks Biden is winning too, lel

>>23707787
THE PLANS THAT THEY HAVE MADE

>>23707787
THE PLANS THAT THEY HAVE MADE?

>>23707783

You guys DID buy the BABA sale, right?

>>23707702
>1^n+e^n+pi^n+13^n
lmao nice one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjwlzs1OJcY

>>23707794
well idk really, martin shkreli recommends tho. i have an amd gpu too

>>23707521
all the more reason why Trump has to win. maybe some of you now understand, if you didn't before.

>>23707813
>>23707817
BECAUSE ONE DAY

>>23707822
sure, thats what causes my good mood

>>23707817
BECAUSE ONE DAY I'LL LEAVE YOU

>>23707772
Ahh im COOMING AHHH

>>23707822
>getting involved with BABA immediately after serious CCP intervention in largest IPO in history
>getting involved with BABA immediately after the Jack Ma's speech critical of CCP
>ISHYGDDT

Mostly cash into election day, but I'm still holding on to some penny shit.

XDSL is still a buy in the $0.03 range.

FPX Nickel is always a buy.

It's pretty unlikely that Trump wins. He fucked up corona too much. Also, the stock market tends to do better under Democratic presidents than Republicans.

Who could have thought of a more Cinderella story than Stamps.com?

>>23707848
>>23707851
A PHANTOM TO LEAD YOU IN THE SUMMER

HOLY FUCKING SHIT BEARISH OR BULLISH WHAT DO I DO

>>23707885
the only winning move is to not play

>>23707858
BABA will not have any action taken against them by any form of government either us or imperialist.

>>23707879
TO JOIN THE BLACK PAAARRAADDDE

>>23707874
So Democrats tank the economy in their last year, Republicans build it back up and the Dems ride it to the top before tanking it again. Got it.

>>23707861
When do you think FPX Nickel will be profitable?

>>23707925
You're retarded. That's not what the graph is showing at all.

Seethe harder magafag. Republicans are incompetent.

need a quick rundown on the baba meme one just red week candle is because earnings will be shit and chinese pump and dump exit scams

>>23707961
BABA is not a Chinese pump and dump scam. Literally China’s Amazon

>>23706654
I think that is a tiny stuffed animal.

>>23707578
>>23707639
>>23707678
>>23707702
>>23707756
>>23707783
as someone who was never part of the goth crown, and rewatching the music video in 2020, let me be the first to say:

i don't get it.

>>23707874
>>23707944
No, you're the retarded one considering you refuse to question why it "tends" to do better under democrats even though no major policy changes happens that influences the market much at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYHu9PMY_C4

>>23708000
newfag spotted

Just voted from Trump lads. Thought it was too late to register to vote but apparently last minute votes are allowed.

Saw one of them BLM shirt wearing terrorist there too. He'd prpbably go violent if a person was wearing All Lives Matter or Trump 2020. Lol they say the left is peaceful pffft.

>>23708001
Can you pls stop shilling your youtube channel here, thanks.

>>23708000
newfag

>>23708012
Based

>>23708000
Good job outing yourself for having 0 taste

>>23708001
Wow you're right, policy changes and investor sentiment only matter during Republican presidencies, then magically don't matter when a Democrat is in office. Why didn't I see it before?

>>23708000
Wasted quads you fuck

>>23708000
Cringe

also
>tfw no Boxxy gf :(

>>23708012
Based

>>23708000
Newfag alert

This doesn't add up...

>>23708044
Take your ADHD meds and try watching the video again, you only got ~3 minutes in anon

>>23708070
11.36 is the bid and 11.57 is the ask at the time of this post

>>23708100
Yahoo actually shows that? I thought it only shows price action, thanks anon I'm now smarter

>>23708000
Damn I remember when posting "When I was a young boy" was considered a forced newfag meme.
God damn it's true you can never leave this site. You're a fucking new fag. Nice waste of digits.

>>23708134
>>23708066
>>23708055
>>23708052
>>23708030
>>23708025
>>23708011
>waste of digits

feels good, man. you're a bunch of fucking no life faggots i hope you know that :^)

>>23708096
"Stock market out-performance during Democratic leadership is an empirical fact."

Wow! Great video, and great quote at the end to sum it all up. It's a little embarrassing that you shill your channel on here, but that's besides the point.

>>23708100
what? It's 11.57 at close and 11.35 after hours (in other words the actual price that matters now)

Which site shows this though? Because the NASDAQ site still shows the AH price at 5:40 pm.

Ayo ma niggas, wuz gud?

>>23708118
No just checked my broker. It’ll fluctuate between those 2 numbers unless there’s some big buys in AH. Don’t pay attention to it though, low volume AH today so doesn’t really matter.

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

not sure if i should average baba down on this dip or just see what happens since you never know with these china stonks risk

>>23708156
kys

How many points will Tesla likely go up if trump wins?

Likely to go to 450?

>>23708164
nvm it's Yahoo, why does Yahoo have more recent after hours prices than other sites?

>>23708156
post your portfolio I want to laugh newfag

>>23708165
le based

hahahaha yes GME DIE!!! FUCKING DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>23708156
Go back to r*ddit, you don’t belong here

>>23706721
NIO is NIO. Years from now people will be asking: "is X the next NIO?" And the answer will be no, because NIO is so different from the rest of car companies

>>23708165
Impressive, Very Nice

>>23708156

Yo tranny we need a new thread

when do we start seeing voter data?
8pm?

>>23708219
Don't confirm him with your faggot cartoons, Anon.

>>23708165
Why the fuck is there korean on that ballot?

>>23708223
Loled

NEW @_@ !!!

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>>23708232


ERECTION!!!

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>>23708232

>>23708165
ahem

N

>>23708219
Cute Shamiko.

>>23708243
>290
uironically kill yourself

>>23708231
I-I'll post what I want

>>23708157
Jesus fuck you're dumb

>>23708156
You sound salty? Not at 6 figs yet niggah?

22 and rich, unlike your broke ass, remember to get up and wage. Wear your fucking mask too please.

>>23708219
>>23708210
>>23708189
>>23708176
guaranteed you all started hanging out here this year.

>>23708246

>>23708286
nice LARP. how's high school english class? do your homework yet? lmao

>>23707943
They'll be bought out long before the mine gets built.

I've been trading FPX since around $0.13.

>>23708287
Don't listen to them Anon.
I hope you enjoy your time here. :)

>>23707677
Supremely based, anon. Would you consider buying deep ITM puts on UVXY to be just as good as a straight up short or will I run into some liquidity or whatever issue?
Also, which specific volatility instrument should I short? UVXY, VXX, VXZ, etc.

>>23708287
Here since 07

>>23708323
idk, i don't do options. either way the point is as long as you can account for margin calls or """"extreme"""" events, shorting volatility is free money because it is rigged to go down. again, backtest it yourself if you don't believe me, both VIX and the actually tradable instruments based off of it (really, based off of /VX, which is only problematic because the contracts are short term compared to shit like VXX or UVXY which you can hodl for longer).

>>23708382
What indicators are those? You wrote those?

>premarket coom on Nasdaq
Trump is going to win isn't he?

>>23708396
nothing all that special, the on-chart stuff is just the keltner channel and SMA's, assuming you mean the "My_" stuff, those are just alternate versions of the Williams%R and Awesome Oscillator indicators that i added to. i basically added a MA (that i don't even use) and color coding to the W%R, and i made the AO adjustable (normally it's just high+low/2 of the 5 and 34 SMA's, i altered the code so you could put in whatever type of MA's you wanted with whatever values you wanted). i use the W%R for entry signals and AO for confirmation. i try to keep it simple for day trading.

>>23708382
Thanks anon. I know you don't do options but I'll drop this on you anyway. Pic related is a 150 put on VXX expiring 6/17/22. This put is so far in the money that changes in volatility and the effects of time decay are negligible. The upshot is it's basically a leveraged short with no possibility of a margin call. Look into it and next time an opportunity presents itself maybe pick up some of these. The benefit is no possibility of a margin call no matter how bad you mistime the top and since a put like this being far in the money and having a long expiration date means it is almost totally composed of intrinsic value so you don't have to worry about the usual options bugbears like losing out to time decay and IV crush.

>>23708475
oh, also,
>Also, which specific volatility instrument should I short? UVXY, VXX, VXZ, etc.

i just do the VXX. UVXY is basically the same thing but 1.5x. you could theoretically make roughly the same trades on both if you accounted for the 1.5x in terms of your position sizing, i feel like the VXX is just easier to use and calculate. if you want to get deeper into volatility and the UVXY feel free, but i figure ultimately it would basically be the same but you'd short fewer shares to account for the volatility. someone might say "well you can do shenanigans based on decay" but i don't bother with optimizing that much. VXX is a lot more straightforward ultimately. pretty much the closest you can get to straight-up shorting the VIX on a 1:1 basis with added in contango to make shorting even more appealing.

again: you can't lose shorting volatility. it will literally, LITERALLY, always go down. even more so because of in contango (based on /VX futures, that article i linked describes it iirc). so, double rigged to go down over time. the only thing you have to account for is margin calls, but as long as you do, it's literally unlosable. the trick is in how you manage margin calls in case shit truly hits the fan like covid or 2008 (12 years apart, mind you).

if you really want to get into shorting volatility, i suggest you study the VIX a lot, historically. you'll eventually come to understand what i mean by how it is a mean-reverting phenomenon and high volatility never lasts long, especially at 40+ on the VIX. see for yourself.

someone make a new thread

>>23706629
If you are into value stocks, the best stonks under 20 dollars are: KEY, HBI, HPQ, KGC, SCS, XRX, and MPW.

GE and GPRO are also notable stocks under 10.

Also, if you have a small account, you are probably better off doing option spreads instead of buying stocks outright. They lower your cost basis significantly and provided a consistent stream of income.

>>23706685
Jo Jorgensen.

>>23706696
Either he himself or as Camacho are better choices than what we have now desu

>>23706721
YOLO your life savings in weekly NIO calls.

Thank me later.

>>23708520
i might look into it. considering margin calling is the biggest problem to overcome. it saddened me the first time i started researching the VIX and realized it called the bottom in both 2008 and 2020, if nothing else. how you couldn't directly trade it because VIX around 10-20 was basically free money to buy if you could since it almost never got much lower than 12. basically, the vast majority of the time the volatility is stable, and very rarely does it spike during crazy shit happening, before it returns to the mean. like, if you could buy the VIX around 10-20 and hold it as long as you wanted (you can't do this with /VX), it would be free 100%+ trades over and over. i guess it makes sense why the jews don't let you do this.

i guess the main concern with options i'd always have is the cost of premium. i don't do options but i'd assume the MM's would account for volatility and would make the premium high enough to fuck you. if not, then yeah it'd be a great trade to take advantage of over and over again. i'll take another look at it this weekend when i have the time, at least. i think you can do options directly on the VIX too, although i don't know how much of a difference there is between options on the VIX and on the VXX. saved the pic at least, though.

>>23708543
This is gold. I have a mid 6 figure account built mostly on bitcoin and leveraged bull ETFs. I look for unique strategies that defy conventional wisdom with a high return and lower risk than the market gives them credit for. Right now I'm really liking your volatility short when VIX is sky high. It looks like a can't lose play. That coupled with buying deep ITM VXX puts is really making the wheels turn. I will study up and if I hit it big I'll post about it

>>23708570
>>23708243

>>23706820
Its a good boomer stock.

Low P/E ratio, good dividends, low debt, high quick and current ratios, etc make it a good buy.

People are judging it by meme stock standards (since it is a tech company that has to compete with more dynamic companies like AMD) so they keep on shitting on it.

Its not going to moon, but its going to be a reliable dividend generator for decades to come.

>>23706857
I am guessing since we had a red week last week, its already priced in.

>>23708640
again i can't stress this enough: the key is that you understand the limits of the VIX and why, and how to manage margin calls. but otherwise yeah. if you really want to dive deep into it, i highly suggest getting really knowledgeable about historical values of the VIX back to at least 1987 (black monday). considering laws that have been passed since then, that should basically never be physically possible again. 2008 and 2020 are more important """extreme""" values. 80+ VIX is a key point that you can line up with where the SPY was at that time, for example. of course that happens like once in a decade, and due to very obvious events you could probably figure out due to keeping track of current events. i also highly recommend learning all you can about the 2008 financial crisis, like literally all you can learn about it. some good starting points:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0BHAD4tQwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QozGSS7QY_U

honestly the more you can learn about the 2008 financial crisis, the better. truly. it's one of the most important events you can learn about in regards to volatility. you can learn about 1987 too but that is long gone, but if you've got the time it's good to learn about.

>>23708625
>i guess the main concern with options i'd always have is the cost of premium. i don't do options but i'd assume the MM's would account for volatility and would make the premium high enough to fuck you.
I posted before I saw this but, yes, often that is the case. The trick is to get those long expiration date and deep in the money puts. An option's value is made up of two numbers, intrinsic value and extrinsic value. The intrinsic value is what you'd get if you assigned the option and liquidated the proceeds in the market right now. Extrinsic value is the fraction of the option's price that accounts for time and volatility. The larger fraction of the premium that is allocated to extrinsic value the more the option is at the mercy of market makers. The solution is easy. You want options that are very far in the money cuz the for every dollar an option is in the money, that's a dollar of intrinsic value. The relationship is linear. Get this though, every dollar an option is in the money, it loses a certain amount of extrinsic value. So if you go far enough in the money, the option is almost complete intrinsic value and almost no extrinsic value rendering the market maker powerless. You also are no longer subject to hardly any time decay and changes in the underlying volatility don't affect you. The only thing you are affected by is the price of the underlying. In this case you have a put so as VXX drops your put would moon.
Do some serious research and I think you'll find these puts the missing part of your puzzle.

>>23708733
What's your position sizing on these things? How much of your portfolio do you use on VXX trades?

>>23706927
literally can't go tits up

short puts are synthetically the same as a covered call.

TLT does not collateralize the put, it collateralizes the short call (hence a covered call). You basically did the same position twice.

Also, naked puts are better than covered calls since, being one transaction, there is less slippage and commissions. Also, if you trade on margin, naked puts allow you 5:1 leverage (covered calls only allow 2:1 leverage) and the leverage is interest free (since you are not actually borrowing money).

That being said, I like to sell put credit spreads (a short put protected by a long put at a lower strike) on TLT. Its a great hedge against the other bull spreads I have against various stocks.

>>23708737
thanks, i'll definitely be looking into it. always fun doing this end-of-thread talks lmao. hope you anons make it who are interested in this stuff, hope i'm around to see if you guys post about it in the future. i'll check the end of this thread for an hour or two more in case anyone wants to talk more about it. the charts do all the talking.

>>23708761
assume the VIX will never go higher than, say, 90 (80+, really), and plan accordingly. ideally you'd just throw on a 10x keltner channel like: >>23707559 and short VXX/UVXY/whatever when the VIX is up there, with a single position, and hodl. because most of the time it won't last up there before dropping. then you can consider selling half at some point like at the 50SMA or 200 SMA. i mean most of the time as in literally years it will act like this, again backtest for yourself on the VIX. but once in a decade shit will hit the fan like 2008 or covid, and you have to be on top of current events to handle that. a good rule of thumb is that VIX above 40+ is high, so you can start any potential DCA'ing from there on something like the VXX or UVXY or whatever is available at the time (TVIX used to be a thing and no longer is, who knows what will be available in the future if you want to use leverage). literally go back and look at where the VIX was during 2008 and covid, and where the SPY or NDX was during those times, for example. that's basically the highest volatility will ever get considering shit like circuit breakers now in place.

if you want to get in this game the best thing you can do is look at historical VIX values all the way back to 1987 and note the peaks and how long they lasted before cratering back to around 10-20. also note how often volatility is around 10-20 (hint: basically all the time).