/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23666881
Delete this Pajeet smart money is accumulating!!!

>>23666921
nigger, you should have been done by now. what's taking you so long?

LOKI's the only real alternative to XMR. Zcash is backdoored shit.

>>23666881
It was proven to not be private. Ruins the whole point of it.

>>23666998
>he still believes this fud in 2020.
thanks for still proving how early I am.

>>23666881
because "zcash's privacy guarantees are questionable"

>>23666881
Because it's a Jewish glownigger coin, with fake privacy.

>>23666881
What's your price prediction just before halving, OP?

>>23667039
https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/593.pdf

~1000usd for 21 ZEC
Easiest buy of my life

>>23667059
Well I'm not sure if it'll moon before the halving, but it's AT LEAST a double from these levels. I reckon within the start of the new year, and if/when Grayscale makes their ZEC fund available to OTKMKTS, we'll see a nice pump. I'd say $250+ by mid 2021.
>>23667101
you WILL make it.
>>23667081
this is a good paper that a lot of people should read. I really doubt you read it in its entirety, because if you did, you would understand why Zcash receives fud from /biz/. the tl;dr: is that implementing shielded support on exchanges/wallets has been cumbersome in the past. the more support for shielded transactions, the bigger the pool grows, the more obfuscation there is.
>>23667051
blah blah blah jews, niggers, blah blah, XMRfags rise up, amirite?

>optional privacy
>trusted setups
>zero adoption
>centralized company
>dev tax
>asic miner pump and dump

>>23667214
>optional privacy
perfect for real world application when you need to verify that a transaction has been sent when you buy a house.
>trusted setups
halo debunks this fud.
>zero adoption
>$13,288,846 in the past 24 hours
>centralized company
the ECC is a company that is funded to support ZEC growth. all open source projects without any company backing fail (just like BTC has blockstream, chaincode, etc backing it)
>dev tax
needed for above, obviously.
>asic miner pump and dump
kek. still using 2017 fud (most likely when you joined crypto).

>>23666881
PirateChain is better

>>23667361
yeah you're right. I'll delete this thread now.

>>23667361
Anything is better than this, even XRP, and that's saying a lot.

>>23667191
yes but that is the fatal flaw in zcash. by not making it mandatory for all transactions makes it easier to trace and therefore less anonymous. why not make it all mandatory and allow a view key when proving a transaction?

>>23667466
checked. because historically, it was complicated to implement shielded txns on exchanges + wallets. it's getting better/easier. soon it will become the standard. IYKYK. IYDKYDK.

>>23667466
this
i own 50 zec and when i watch monero i feel like a bcashie staring at btc, sad

>>23667504
>The old bull and the young bull were standing at the top of the hill overlooking a paddock of many gorgeous young heifers. The young bull said, "Let's charge down the hill, knock over that fence and service one of those heifers each". The old bull wisely replied, "Why don't we saunter down the hill, open the gate, take a sip at the water trough and then service ALL of those heifers?"
patience and trust in zooko is all you need to make it with 50 ZEC.

>>23667494
well good luck i truly hope zcash does go down the path of achieving true privacy in the future
>>23667504
i know this feel, i was a btrash holder for a long time...

>>23667610
in any case, the future is private whether or not people want to believe it now. just look at all the changes to the adtech industry with the potential (eventual) removal of cookies. consumers are going to start demanding more privacy. whether or not it's XMR or ZEC, my money is on ZEC, but one will win (or in some strange universe BTC adds privacy but I'm doubtful that will happen).

>>23667354
>perfect for real world application when you need to verify that a transaction has been sent when you buy a house.
Garbage anon sets mean this privacy isn't achieved. 99% of zcash transactions are unshielded. People will never use zcash because people will never need to move off of Bitcion for privacy unless it is an easy baselayer application that only requires the knowledge of how to send/receive with a wallet. This is why people use Monero. They don't have to spend time researching how to use privacy. They can just have it.
>halo debunks this fud.
soon tm. I've read conflicting things on this anyways.
>$13,288,846 in the past 24 hours
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-xmr-zec.html
The dark nets are moving to monero and not to zcash. This is because monero is actually practical to use. Monero has zero adoption outside of speculation. Anybody who seeks privacy uses Monero.
>the ECC is a company that is funded to support ZEC growth. all open source projects without any company backing fail (just like BTC has blockstream, chaincode, etc backing it)
Bitcoin is doing fine these days, and so is Monero. Outside of that, look at all the decentralized projects within the linux ecosystem for example. It is very possibly for a company to succeed open source. It just requires an actual interest in the privacy. Zcash does not have that community.
>needed for above, obviously.
Nope. Monero has better privacy than Zcash because it has superior anon sets, and this is because of BUILT IN privacy that is non optional.
>kek. still using 2017 fud (most likely when you joined crypto).
I'm not fudding. This is literally the only usecase your shitcoin has.
Fudding would be pointing out that this shitcoin was developed in Israel. But that is actually true.

>>23667718
anon, just out of curiosity. why are you so bullish on zcash which has potential privacy rather than a project that has true privacy such as monero? i'm guessing you have a pretty big stack?

>>23667718
>>23667994
a-a-anon ... ?? did u die?