/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23658242
Easy Sunday mornin frens!

what has /pmg/ ordered this weekend?
anything?

I haven't bought any PMs for awhile. doing other things. but tempted to buy a few coins just as a maintenance fix for the stacking addiction

>>23658242
Ok i've been up all morning baking!
now time to wake up and come to the table you lazy bastards!

I havent done a full write up for this yet so ill keep it short, but if silver and gold go as far as we believe they can, Bayhorse will reach a $1,000,000,000+ market cap. Thats 100x+ from here.

Im not saying its a sure thing, and there are additional risks, but there are few, if no, better ways to leverage yourself to the price of silver and gold.

Looks like I posted this in the wrong pmg, but here's my comfy story from yesterday
>>23658896

>>23658918
why not give us that write up then ? I think its good to put these kind of things if you're willing into OP. Too many people ask all the time about minings stocks. Also, I'm fucking hoping for a drop on Klondike Silver like in August.

>>23658918
Oh, please, stop baiting people by pulling imaginary numbers out of your ass. Why Bayhorse of all? They struggle to maintain their production pace in their silver mine, producing about half of their production goal. They're supposed to ramp it up to 200tpd but are struggling at 50tpd. Instead of buying new property and exploring that they should've first straightened themselves out at their silver mine.

As you said, there are better companies to invest into

>>23658969
ya did ok fren. nice looking coins

>>23659031
Thanks fren

>>23658242
MY STUPID FUCKING SILVER IS FUCKING WORTHLESS!!!!!

oh no, my Silver is priceless!

>>23659385
Yukari-anon, how is the engelhard box going?

So I’ve decided every other week I will buy 20oz of silver and on the weeks in between I will buy gold sovereigns. I need to make my stacking more organized and consistent. Any of you guys do something like that?

>>23659385
>>23659364

>>23658286
On the lowest price this week I bought a roll of Niue Athena owls. This week a gold sovereign. Excited for my owls.

>>23659398
ah, only have 5 of the ten ounce bars. not enough to build an entire fortress of silver yet

>>23659407
I kinda do anon. I have a lot of my silver in weeb rounds while having some generics as well. I managed to get two philharmonics from generics while it allows the coin collector in me to be satisfied since you can always resell some of the random ones for a bit more premium than weeb rounds if it becomes a lot more rare.
>>23659438
Gotcha. Will you buy a Nadir bar? MM has a kinda good deal for them.

I have a old pokemon collection I need to get graded and sell for silver.

It seems like most people here stack silver over gold. Why is that?

Do you think it's gonna go up further than gold, or is it that you can get a physically bigger stack?

>bigger physical stack
size matters

>>23626419
It doesn't matter who. There are a lot of people out there.

>>23658991
I love coming across a fool who thinks he has it all figured out. You somehow think that focusing on production instead of buying other brownfield exploration projects NOW, while they can afford them(as apposed to 6 months from now when they appreciate 10x in value) and therefore add even more longevity and value to the company, is somehow bullish. It is the sort of long term thinking that only someone with real experience and wisdom can see the logic in(which is why you have misinterpreted it so poorly)

>>23658978
I will eventually. Very unlikely to see a major drop in KS anon, I think it's exhausted most of its downside potential. I will be the first to scoop more up if it does.

>>23659490
G/S ratio will eventually crater. Strategy is to swap under 30

>>23659547
>is somehow bullish

*is somehow bearish. its too late for me to be getting wound up by small minded fags. im off to bed. goodnight /pmg/

>>23659554
1:1:1

>>23659547
>You somehow think that focusing on production instead of buying other brownfield exploration projects NOW, while they can afford them [---]
>while they can afford them
have you taken a look at their balance sheet retard? They can't afford to buy properties. They already have Brandywine, they had no reason to buy Harrison. Management is unfocused as fuck and shareholders will pay for their stupidity.
>[---] is somehow bullish
YES. The company has to cover their finances first and foremost.
>as apposed to 6 months from now when they appreciate 10x in value
nobody knows when the PM run begins, it could be tomorrow or 2030. Are you sure it's not you who thinks you've got it "all figured out"?
>It is the sort of long term thinking that only someone with real experience and wisdom can see the logic in(which is why you have misinterpreted it so poorly)
pic related

>>23658286
i got a helvetia 20 franc for 10 over spot from my lcs. BU, very nice coin, always wanted one

>>23659658
>nobody knows when the PM run begins, it could be tomorrow or 2030. Are you sure it's not you who thinks you've got it "all figured out"?

you have exposed yourself noob. The bull market has already begun.

>>23659669
>digits
very nice Helvettias
I just got two of those not long ago. they are beauty's.
I paid a higher premium for mine though

golden beauty's

>>23659490
I just stack silver because it's cheaper to buy, so I can make miner stonk investments while buying physical. I started with a big 100oz Ag purchase but thinking back I should've at least bought one ounce of gold. Now I don't want to buy gold because it's a big investment as a single purchase (and no I won't buy 1/4 or 1/2 oz because of the premiums). So now I'm just kind of stuck with the silver although in the long run that will go up regardless
>>23659711
Yeah seems like another March might be coming though I wouldn't be 100% certain. Nobody knows what's going to happen after all. But sure go ahead and go all-in on a company that will dilute their shareholders substantially in the future and that has proven that it's incapable of providing real results. I'll stick to more trustworthy companies that also will benefit from a huge bullrun (whenever that happens)

>>23659715
not sure if ill get more, but theyre a really nice coin. might look into old fractional US. i looked on apmex or wherever after and i realized i essentially paid the 50+ with cash amount for just one. LCS are very comfy

>>23659759
>(and no I won't buy 1/4 or 1/2 oz because of the premiums)
You know that you can buy gold sovereigns and 20 francs for only like $15 over spot right?

>>23659778
in yuroland too?

>>23659787
Oh well in that case I have no idea, but it might be worth taking a look at them to see if the premiums are as high as other fractional gold

>>23659787
I thought coins were cheaper in Yuroland I saw a post saying they were tax free compared to bars. I feel bad for Europeans sometimes.

>>23659759
>I'll stick to more trustworthy companies that also will benefit from a huge bullrun (whenever that happens)

typically euro pussy

>>23659547
KS already went down last week, I will probably buy it if it stay that low, dont have a position yet. If it goes down another cent then its just jackpot in my eyes. I removed Silver One and Golden Mineral from my portfolio, too poor to afford 10 positions. 8 is probably my limit.

>>23659833
Sure gold is tax free but silver has VAT in most countries in Europe. Only a couple of countries (I think Belgium and Estonia only) don't have VAT on silver coins.
>>23659828
I guess I'll have a look. The bullion dealers in my country rip me off even when buying, they charge like 100€ premiums for 1oz gold too though
>>23659894
I'll remember to laugh at you when BHS dilutes ok?

>>23659669
have a few of those
check out the french 20 franc roosters also
nice coins

U.K. lockdown part 2, how does this effect metals?

>>23660044
asset flight from most equities because no money velocity, should be bullish for PMs

>>23659468
>I have a old pokemon collection I need to get graded and sell for silver.

Do it now but only for the few best cards if they have a chance of being 10/10, it's a bubble and you should sell quickly. My brother is a savvy ccg trader and in a few days is getting back from grading 5 mint condition early Charizards to sell asap. He also got in very early on this new "Flesh and Blood" ccg and in just a few months prices have exploded 10x for some things. He actually sold his Silver last week to buy big batches of cheapies from people who don't know that the game mooned and just yesterday had over 7k in sales (4200 profit) with more pouring in. He is hoping to buy back his Silver and more and also get a nice mining stock portfolio built within the next 2 weeks.

Have any of you guys used monumental metals? I’ve used JM and SD and they were fine. Just making sure I’m not about to get jew’d

>>23660168
monument is my preferred online dealer, ive stopped using the others unless theres a good sale

>>23660168
>>23660201
yeah, ive gotten some of my best deals at monument. good selection, good prices.

>>23660201
Their gold prices have the lowest premium in the stuff that I like. I think I might start using them.

post stacks

>>23660168
Monument is awesome and has never done wrong by me, only thing is they can take a long time to ship but I don’t fault them for that.

I got memed. The only bullion my LCS has are silver eagles that are 3x spot for some reason.

>>23660327
>3x spot for some reason.
this is how they rape the normies who don't know any better
sad, many such cases

>>23660327
wow yikes, 3x is awful

>>23660303

>>23660303
nice
stack posting

>>23660327
Based grifting LCS owner

How do you guys keep track of your stack? I’ve been keeping it in memory but my stack is starting getting hard to remember exactly what I have. I’m thinking of just making a spreadsheet.

>>23660327
I feel so lucky. My LCS is the man.

>>23660303
Classy taste in gold anon, very nice. Haven't gotten any in months but should probably bring the ratio back down around 1:1000, albeit against the inclination of my argentautism.

Do you know offhand who has good deals on those gold restrike/homage coins?

clown world

>>23660458
i use to add everything to an excel. i lost track so long ago

MU FUCKING STYPID SILVER IS GUCKING STUPID WORTHLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

about to grow my stack 50x lol
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001260521593.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.8aa35313INeONh&algo_pvid=5a23bce1-73bc-47cb-918c-ce3f363a7ff3&algo_expid=5a23bce1-73bc-47cb-918c-ce3f363a7ff3-7&btsid=0bb0624216042429193948675ee548&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

>>23660488
I do not. I paid a heavy premium for the gold restrikes. Worth every penny.

>>23660544
You'll buy plated silver?

>>23660493
This is whats referred to as hell

>>23660572
>Worth every penny.

It's a rare thing for me to agree regarding gold but seriously, those are awesome.

>>23660493
the birb does have good moves, gotta give credit where it's due

This week I will be receiving:
1881 uncirculated Morgan dollar
20 x mixed silver dimes
1 x gold sovereign 2020
1 x 1957 10 schilling

>>23660727
>20 x mixed silver dimes

Good man, there will be many women in need of gainful and protein rich employment soon.

>>23660727
Hey out of control Bong stacker, where did you source your Mongolian gold from?

Could some one post the American junk silver guide pot favor?

>>23660903
I got it from a forum member. Seem to be quite rare.

>>23658918
I have seen this 100x claim being made over and over with nothing to back it up, over and over.

>>23658918
Yeah Bayhorse is going to be the LINK of mining stocks.

Will this be enough shiny to lose my virginity when shtf or should I have gone into crypto?
What kind of shiny’s do women like?

>>23661034
think there might be an updated one now, or did you want the us specific?

>>23658286
Got my batboi in recently, pretty happy with it.

Whilst drunk, I apparantly bid and won this coin lot on ebay for £7. I think I fucked up!!

>>23660889
FWTDHWAHQAAD status

>>23661169
Still drunk?

>>23658242
Hold up

>>23661152
I was looking for a guide in which American coins were silver, like a type, year, percentage type thing.

>>23661142
Yeah but if you've got nothing else to offer besides shiny things she might stick a shank in your back while you're getting cosy and take them. Keep your wits about you, virgin fren.

>>23658918
This is what bag holder cope really looks like... and it’s hilarious.

>>23659778
where are you getting sovereigns/francs for so cheap?

>>23661206
Ah, yes. Safety comes first. Will be looking into getting a gun.

>>23661142
The best women don't care about stacks. My wife says money matters are for men. She just cooks, cleans and raises baby whilst I stack. Its great.

>>23658286
I got some mechanical coins and the 5 silver shield coins I want (crazy premium on them)

>>23661215
He is really biased but its not unfounded. I mean, if BHS do succeed in ramping up their production, the gain will be enormous. Its more of a too strong faith than blind confidence. He is wrong about no company equal to BHS though, Impact Silver is completely levered to Silver price too and its pretty strong (no debt, good BS).
>>23661247
yes, that's why the divorce rate is so high in the world, especially in western country. Divorce rape is a joke known to all men now.

>>23661247
Sounds too good to be true.
Sure she’s not a Jewish alien, waiting for your stack to get large enough so she can beam it back to their lizard planet?
If I were you I’d consult /x/, better safe than sorry.

>>23661215
Would it be dumb to buy a few thousand shares of BHS during the next dip/crash as a minor speculation? It's down like 30+% from when I first remember it getting pumped here.

>>23658286
I got this from my LCS, and the BU condition makes it a worthwhile treat.

>>23661247
unbelievably based

>>23661190
i think i have it on my laptop, gimme a sec

>>23661308
She is straight outta the 1800s. Despises the feminist movement. Thinks a womens place is in the home.

>>23661414
Indubitably based

>>23660465
I will try another who is a farther drive. I was floored because everyone on pmg sings the praises of LCS compared to online retailers.

>>23659430
The owls are great. I've got ten, first coins I bought. You'll find it hard to keep them in the tube!

All I have to protect my stack in bongland...

>>23661575
tfw no owls

>>23661640
Crossbow and bowie knife FTW!

>>23659468
I found a 1st edition error print at minimum PSA 8, not worth a lot but it's $140 according to some sites I see. Gonna have it graded when the price comes down from $50, I want to sell it but at the same time it's just kinda neat and I wouldn't be surprised if we get a second bubble in the future (or it just goes the way of the beanie babies)

>>23661640
Are those air rifles? Your crossbow is an extremely based choice regardless, I'd honestly expect that a silent broadhead bolt that instantly appears sticking out of the face of some leftard rioting in the street would be infinitely and immediately more terrifying to enemy bystanders than just shooting pellets. I got proper guns like all burgers worth their buns but a crossbow and specialty arrowheads too. Compound bows are awesome as well.

>>23661677
>Gonna have it graded when the price comes down from $50
What I mean is that PSA is charging $50 to grade shit rn and I don't know what other graders are good

>>23661658
Its a good combo.
>>23661738
Yeah just air rifles but I hunt with them every week and a quite powerful. The crossbow is great as its the most lethal thing you can own here with no registration.

>>23660122
It's always fun to see new TCGs but I don't know if there's much of a market for them and it makes me hesitant to get in on them (also because most fail)
Seems like 80% of the market is just the same nerds playing magic over and over, 15% is black people still playing YuGiOh, and the remaining 5% are contrarian card games trying to make it

I'm pretty new to the stacking game and was hoping to get any canadabros opinions on coins vs bars. My understanding is that as long as you sell a coin for under 1K here, you don't pay any capital gains tax. This has me looking almost exclusively at fractional gold and silver maples for my stack vs bars, because even if the premium is slightly higher, it should in theory get eaten up years down the line when I get hit with capital gains. Where do you guys fall into as far as bar/coin breakdown? I'm also really tempted to buy a few of the maplegram 25 packs for the same reason.

>>23660727
nice haul fren

>>23661977
Ngl chief as a leaf I don’t even know when gains are a factor
I have like 2 silver bars, 1 2g gold bar, the rest is silver rounds
Realistically if the limit is actually 1k then smaller coins/bars with the lowest premiums you can manage are your best bet, but don’t fall for the fractional gold meme desu. Premiums way too high

>>23661153
>Asuna and the Batboi
i see a story arc spinoff in Batbois future

>>23662009
Thanks fren. Its 120g gold and 7kg silver

>>23661834
What do you hunt? I was looking into going after (((grey squirrels))) but I live in a city.

>>23659903
Why did silver one get the ax? They are an amazing company from my research. Only problem i could see with them is they wont be producing for about 3 years.

>>23662070
Rabbits mostly, occasionally squirrels, pheasant, wood pigeon and rats if the dairy farmers ask.

>>23661834
Not knocking the air guns, I've always appreciated the engineering even if rate of fire is low. You're very well armed for a bong good work man.

>>23661886
I agree overall but my brother has been saying that MTG has completely shit the bed and sold out, evidently it leaked that they will be making Walking Dead and Rick and Morty cards, as if power creep wasn't pissing off the OG players enough, so there is a mass exodus from MTG into the tiny print run Flesh and Blood game. Booster boxes that were $75 in the spring are actually selling for $900+ now, numerous individual cards worth over a grand, it's completely ridiculous and he is raking in the loot.

I found a way to access overseas non-anglophone markets and shopping services for him where the popularity hasn't mooned yet and he's getting dozens of sub-$100 booster boxes and rare singles shipped right now that are worth instantaneous shitloads on eBay and other english language sites. I wouldn't get in now as it's definitely a frothy hypefest but it's performing way better than PMs or anything else ATM.

>>23662150
>hypefest but it's performing way better than PMs or anything else ATM.
So you’re telling me paper cards with cool graphics on them are a better way to spend your money than gold and silver?

>>23662117
>Defiance Silver - Mexico - 117 MC (core)
>Impact Silver - Mexico - 121 MC (core)
>Vangold - Mexico - 30 MC (core)
>Silver One - USA - 121 MC (core)
>Dolly Varden - Canada - 89 MC (core)
>Canada silver cobalt - Canada - 59 MC
>Strikepoint Gold - Canada - 30 MC
>Klondike - Canada - 11 MC
>Aurcana Silver - USA - 207 MC

This was my list, had to reduce to 8 after removing Golden Mineral. They're all good so I'm still thinking about removing Silver one, not done yet. Only have 1k per month to invest, 9 is already stretching it and its better to have fewer position and large money invested than the opposite.

>>23662126
Pic came out weird

>>23662126
Sound, with the price of proper meat nowadays that's got to be a boon.

>>23662014
The capital gains exemption only applies to coins and not bars which is why I've been looking into fractional gold. I figured that if gold hits 4K cdn an ounce, then even at the lowest tax bracket you are covering the premium on the maplegram coins, which oddly, have a lower premium than 1/4 ounce and 1/2 ounce gold coins per gram. Plus that way if gold moons, you have ten times as much room that you get to ignore capital gains. I'm really not sure what to do. If inflation keeps going it seems like the better play long term if I have to sell (which I don't really plan in doing, but emergencies comes up sometimes).

>>23662215
I love free meats!

>>23662150
Well yeah WoTC has been sellout mode for a while, I should liquidate the cards that I have
I’m suspicious that FaB is getting pumped because everyone’s going retard mode for trading cards but either way less your gainz. I don’t plan on being involved in it but damn I wish I could get free money like that lol

It’s fascinating how crazy the collectibles market can be. I wonder what it’s going to be like when people actually have jobs again and have even more $ to throw at this shit

>>23662308
Arg phone posting

>>23658286
waiting for after the election to see what happens, I'm hoping metals crash as anxiety for the election passes putting major pressure on them for a short term bear trend.

>>23662180
LOL no way, he is just fleecing the retards fast so he can triple his Silver stack and buy a fat pile of Impact Silver shares.

If you had the option of spending 27/Ozt now, or instead could spend the money on cheap crap that dumbfucks are spending gobs on and then quintupling that initial investment in a week or 2 so you can then buy back a bigger physical position plus a mining portfolio during the next dip/crash, wouldn't you do so too?

Good business sense as well as a healthy risk tolerance runs in the family.

>>23658242
Things are going to get crazy at 6:00PM

>>23658918
kek, I threw $600 on the glue factory horse at 12 cents a share so I'm down like 30%, but since I firmly believe we'll have silver over $30 within the next 2-3 months and that will mean a 2-4x increase for even these clowns I'm holding

>>23662324
Bloody hell mate I'm jealous. I crossbow or stab the rats if they come into the garden but I'm not eating them.

>>23662373
So you’re telling me that you can make more money selling playing cards to fat neck beards than on the stock market?

>>23662432
Nobody eats rats! I do it as a favour to the farmers sometimes for letting me shoot the rabbits and game birds.

>>23662306
Maplegrams look pretty based but the $300 premium kinda hurts especially with gold at a peak and likely to decrease soon™
Although it depends on the election because at this rate everything could go literally fucking ape and everything will be destabilized

>>23662446
It can be far more reliable if you know what you’re doing

>>23662470
Pic related is for when they hide behind foliage or on the wall, and I don't want to risk hitting the neighbours with a bolt.

>>23662525
Oof, brutal. Bet that makes em squeak.

>>23662552
Not if I do it right. Had one stuck vertically behind a fence and I caught it in the bowels rather than the chest, so it made it known. Quickly corrected though. I really dislike causing any pain but the niggers who live around here leave scraps all over and we get too many rats. Honestly, I walked out one day in heavy rain and trod on maggots because the spooks next door had a wheelie bin overflowing with them.

>>23662446
Yes absolutely, but you need to have a knack for it. Trading the market is very different than trading cardboard crack, it's a much more "inefficient" market so if you know how and where to buy cheap and how and where to sell high to fatbeards then it's very good money. If you don't have the mind for it you'll screw yourself. I used to make bank buying and parceling out MTG collections 15+ years ago, lots of amazing stuff passed through my hands it hurts remembering all my pages of Dual Land playsets, p9s, all sorts of awesome old cards I'd kept for free by selling enough mediocre stuff to pay for it all but decided my autism would be better directed elsewhere and cashed out. Missed out on some sick gainz but it was the right decision.

>>23662664
Inefficient markets are the best though, that’s literally where money exists to be made so long as you have an IQ
Efficient markets are shit for business

Wait America was once great?

How many days after the election do we have to wait for the big dip?

>>23662840
>Inefficient markets are the best though

No argument here fren, but they are very hard to explain to the uninitiated. You either "get it" or ya don't.

For example, I've made thousands the past few days selling bulk pharmaceutical powders (legal loopholes, not explaining further) that I've marked up 1,800% and can get more of whenever, it's easy as fuck and you work your own hours, dunno why NEETs even exist when easy money is laying around just about everywhere.

>>23662414
Go watch Get Me Roger Stone and tell me he did nothing wrong. He's actually so prideful in his wrongdoing. If youve ever wondered "Why is politics so combative these days? Why do politicians spend so much effort tearing each other down? Where did it all go so wrong?" then look no further than Roger Stone. He might not be the sole culprit but he was certainly a catalyst.

>>23662976
>I've made thousands the past few days selling bulk pharmaceutical powders
See shit like this is something that I would do but I feel like no-one would ever buy my shit and thus it basically forces me into a non-starter situation
I need to build up the confidence to sell stuff 'cause it perpetually feels like no-one would want my product offering, regardless of what it is

>>23663085
>it perpetually feels like no-one would want my product offering, regardless of what it is

Simply a lack of confidence derived from your lack of experience man, don't undermine yourself so much. Remember that most consoomers are retards and if you package it nicely and are the only or the cheapest source on whatever platform then you'll definitely get sales. Study pricing and competition and then figure out how cheap you can get whatever it is in bulk for, very easy.

>>23663179
>Remember that most consoomers are retards
This is probably the disconnect that I experience
I'm pretty conservative with my money and don't buy meme trinkets n shit and thus I think that everyone else does the same
Gonna just fuckin give 'er when I find something that I'd be comfortable with selling, I don't know why I don't take more business risks desu

okay george is pretty based

>>23663265

>>23663273
>>23663265
Based, I like this guy but he's too boring. Peter Schiff is much more interesting.

>>23663211
>I don't know why I don't take more business risks desu

It's literally been engineered out of us by 120 years of the Prussian educational model; it shatters our confidence, creativity, and independence to instead mold us into compliant cagie wagies instead of energetic competitors against our self-appointed masters. It's fucking evil and I hate what they've done to humanity.

Stick it to the man and take some smart risks man, you'll learn a lot and probably succeed too, even a safe little side hustle will boost confidence and expand the future options that you'll be able to recognize and take advantage of.

>>23663341
Makes sense, thanks King. I'll be sure to put that mindset into practice more often

cocksuckers

>>23663467
That’s why I only buy from Monument

>>23663467
wow, thats a big yikes, i mean this shit can happen to anyone,but be sure to use paypal and monument.

>>23663538
It is what it is, can happen anywhere I guess. Goodluck to the other JM Bullion buyers. Hack was in effect from Feb - July it seems, stealing payment processing info. I guess the hackers will know I have a batboi and 2x Kraken. But I have guns too so come get em.
Already called and had card cancelled/replaced that I used, havent noticed anything strange though.

>>23660168
One more upboat for MonMet. I've bought coins (ASEs, Brits, K-rands) and rounds. Always hassle-free.

>>23662525
Sneak attacks do 6x damage if you get the right perk.

>>23663467
Rebbit users say letters went out to Provident purchases for the timeframe too (JM owns Provident)

>>23660493
>GIBE ME MONIE PLZZZ

y r u all betting against america?

>>23658242
Test

>>23664050
You're banned.

>>23664009
>Implying

>>23658918
I really wish Bayhorse could get their production up to speed like they planned. They could move on than to other projects at Brandywine or Morrison. I really think they need to build up their management team.

anyone remember this thing?

>>23664050
I can't see what you posted

>>23664158
Nah, I'm not that old.

>>23661224
Usually a good price on Sovs at Atkinson Bullion and they're a good supplier, I've never had any issues with them.

>>23664009
Because america is a communist shithole at this point and must be destroyed so we can have a free market.

How we doing today guys? Just helped the guy I was working for this season put his mine to bed for the winter. All the machines are properly winterized, gear is all put away and gates locked up. Now to see what vanished in the spring.

>>23664351
anti semite

>>23664367
Hurting Panman. Still up from my initial entry in June, but these Mining investors have jello for hands. We haven't dropped bellow $1800, yet they've all scattered to the fucking wind.

>>23664158
Yes.

>>23664367
Good PAN MAN always love your posts. What do you do in the winter?

>>23664425
did you buy the other one?

>>23664397
its really frustrating but its not without reason that mining stocks get a bad rep. Brex fucked everything up back in the day and that stigma hasnt really ever gone away that you should bail on miners the first sign of trouble.

>>23664352
That's a lot of sovs.

>>23664432
at the moment it looks like i am going back underground this winter at Bonanza Ledge under Barkerville Gold Mines. Have to do a few refresher / update courses on my certifications though first.

>>23663265
George Gammon is the only libertarian I actually enjoy watching, basically because he's just a rich guy who likes money and sticks to talking about macroeconomics rather than the degenerate AIDS that is libertarian social policy

>>23664464
They're sixpences. I wish it were Sovs.

Historically the two are linked because at one point they had the same design, and you could paint a sixpence gold and likely rip someone off.

Ok fuck trying to sell silver on the black market these people really must think I'm some retard trying to sell his grandfather's stack or something

>>23664158
Based, I've got a non-silber pesetas coin with Franco on it

>>23664546
You should agree to the deal and tell him to meet at an extremely out of the way place then never show up

>>23664534
Aren't you an Americaner? Have to pay any extras when ordering sov's from England?

>>23663467
Someone collecting data on bullion owners so they know which houses to rob in the upcoming, post-election chaos. Smart.

>>23664573
That one’s aluminum right? What’s it called?

>>23664452
>Brex fucked everything up back in the day

Who or what was Brex? Seems like an important historical/psychological component of the sector I should learn about. Also congrats on your underground operator job! Will you be allowed to take pictures of juicy ore from the gold ledge you'll be working?

>>23664587
this, give him directions to a comedy club

>>23664546
is there any reason /pmg/ doesn't have a buy/sell telegram or something?

>>23664624
arriba esbana :DDD https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces781.html

>>23664679
ULTIMO BASADO

>>23664634
Have a watch of this, it gives a good overview of the Brex scandal and its overflow into the Canadian stock market. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i5LvQ2jeXE

Basically though a company annonced it had found a massive gold strike, got a massive stock boost, than it was discovered to be fraud when Freeport was brought into double check the results. The lead geo on the project was shaving his wedding ring off and putting bits of gold in the test samples. He also bought placer gold from local natives to salt samples too. It was a massive fraud and nearly destroyed the junior mining sector.

>>23664727
It was also another example of the effectiveness of helicopter rides

>>23664434
No, I bought mine back in August.

>>23664659
>is there any reason /pmg/ doesn't have a buy/sell telegram or something?

That would be awesome, when my bro cashed out (temporarily) last week he got screwed by the shop, only got 80% of spot for his Canadian .9999 and I didn't have the spare cash to buy him out at spot (ain't a Biden so I'm not gonna fuck my family). I've got lots of cool stuff I'd sell below eBay price and if anyone was in a pinch, selling at fair price to /pmg/bros looking for deals would be a win-win.

>>23664759
oh
mine's a specific one from a thread a couple weeks back
a couple anons thought it might be fake
pretty neato coin I might get some more if possible
also stackpoasting

>>23664727
>The lead geo on the project was shaving his wedding ring off and putting bits of gold in the test samples. He also bought placer gold from local natives to salt samples too

Holy crap that's some OG 1870's wild-west-tier swindling. Thanks for the link and rundown, you're the man!

>>23664831
I think it would be pretty good too. It could save us all some money and maybe facilitate some high-quality networking.
Shouldn't be too hard. We could keep the trust data in a pastebin.
Let's see if anyone else chimes in with interest.

>>23664910
its this kind of fraud that made the canadian gov and mining sector device the 43-101 reporting instrument. Its forced controls on how companies store samples, records and independent monitoring have stopped most of these sorts of frauds since. Its not perfect but its for sure helped a lot since its inception.

>>23664986
I am willing to facilitate payments for this new system. People can send their money to me and I will send the money to the seller. There will be a small handling fee but it will help with keeping everyone anonymouse.

>>23664986
>>23664831
That would be a good way to get infiltrated by federal agents

>>23665025
other forums have things like this. >>23665024
lol

>>23665071
I don’t think we need a Telegram channel, just anons offering to buy or sell things ITT

>>23665156
Threads do go quickly though, and there might be a lot of spam. Best option would be websites with a paypal option for security, but most people don't have the stock to warrant such an effort. Even then, did you see the trouble Nikolai had to go through to get started up on here? Sending out freebies and whatnot.

Accountability is key, and anonymous threads don't cultivate it.

>>23665156
I will buy Niue owls for £10 each. Shipping included.

Got a grand to spend before the election what should I buy lads? Any of you buy crypto or is it only shiny rocks for you? Have a comfy sunday frens

>>23665266
I invested heavily in fleshlights so I can set up a fleshlight saloon after the apocalypse. I don't think there's enouggh room for two fleshlight saloons so you should probably invest in something else.

>>23665254
Kek.

>>23665266
A sovereign and 30oz silver.

>>23664999
>43-101 reporting instrument. Its forced controls on how companies store samples, records and independent monitoring have stopped most of these sorts of frauds since

Czeched. So big picture, the 43-101s have fixed most problems involving such fraud, but the psychological damage and skittishness instilled in investors is still rippling through the sector? Hot damn that makes me even more bullish.

>>23665326
>bullish
I agree. Silver's been sitting at near 80:1 against gold. If people aren't investing in physical or the sector generally they are absolutely mental.

>>23665326
Pretty much this.

Its even caused juniors in the past to under report or be extremely hesitant with great results being reported or face abandonment by investors. The shadow of Brex still hangs hard in many old school investors minds. Its no where near as bad as it was in the early 2000s though, 10-15 years ago the sector was basically fucked because no one wanted to believe in explorers discoveries anymore. Two projects I worked on in the Yukon and BC went bankrupt because of it. They released good results and people dumped and left because they thought Brex was happening again.

>>23658242
Why does Franco look so fat on the 5 pesetas?

>>23664727
kek, a fucking flip. I'd never heard of this but this is exactly why I avoided Discovery Metals with their shifty turban wearing CEO and both Strikepoint/Dolly Varden with their poo CEO, I'm not putting my money on the line with brown bastards

>>23665481
Today though it would be nearly impossible to get away with what Brex did. The way samples are stored, audited and even book keeping is done do stop fraudsters from working in this buisness. Look at Frank Callahan as an example of getting caught by the system. He was buddies with his lead geos on the Barkerville gold project and they thought that they could make their drill results look better by drilling the vein on an angle to make it look bigger. Theyre 43-101 report was flagged almost immediately and the samples were redrilled. His geos were black listed and Callahan was ruined.

>>23665315
Maroon saint

>>23664153
I share the same sentiment. They're unfocused as hell and they can't use their great portfolio to their advantage because of their lack of cashflow.
>>23664397
Just remember pic related and understand that there are many gamblers among the investors, especially for speculative companies. Don't mind the major commodity markets, focus on company-specific details and invest into what they can offer.
>>23664727
fucking disgusting

I buy gold coins every chance I get!

>tfw want double sovereign because big
>but regular sov is more regular
big think

>>23665758
Niceu. From MM or SD?

>>23665849
Buy coof sovs

>>23666156
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

>>23664009
betting for m8, need to get back on track

What ever happened to that one trip anon who always talked about silver mooning into a new financial paradigm like this year? Always claimed to have insider knowledge and other bullshit.

>>23666415
your gonna have to be more specific, thats all of us lmao

>>23666415
Not sure who you mean exactly but nobody here has a crystal ball

>>23664352
>Retasu's legs
those nice beautiful thighs
hnnnng,...

>>23660303
Stax

>>23666415
>>23666430
>>23666444
Found it

>>>/biz/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=Schiff+will+win&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

https://news.bitcoin.com/central-banks-dump-gold-for-the-first-time-since-2010-precious-metal-drops-9-since-august-high/

>>23666591
obvious schizoposter

>>23666598
>banks going all in on dollars
bullish for PMs, the time to buy is now

>>23666598
>Turkey
>Uzbekistan
Yes. As Americans print and rack up debt, the costs of countries central banks to continue become increasingly strained. Turkey and Uzbekistan and insolvent, and will spiral into chaos soon. Liquidation of their Gold assets is a last ditch effort to stay solvent, and their fate is a prime example why countries will seek to wean off the USD, because as long as it's the reserve currency, their fate is directly tied to how much money the Americans are willing to print.

>>23666743
I just find it funny that the article doesn't mention the bank runs in those countries.

>>23661186

Is pic related a good buy? I love the look of the Asahi bars. I have been holding out on buying for a few months now and I don't think it is going to get any lower. I'm still fairly new to PMs so idk if this is a good decision. I have about 75oz of silver and 1oz of gold right now.

>>23667425
i mean, yeah those are good prices, but you could get a kilo asahi for a bit more if your gonna get 30 oz. lib coin is a trusted ebayer

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kilo-32-15-oz-Silver-Bar-Asahi-Refining-999-Fine/401745906276?hash=item5d89ec0a64:g:ANYAAOSwygFee6-5

>>23667425
I believe the Asahi rounds are a little cheaper than the bars if you're looking to save a little bit more.

>>23667496
Cool, I have been wary of ebay but I'll look into it. Thanks

>>23667425
that Victoria half sovereign carries an added numismatic premium, I'd get a generic one

>>23667543
Yeah, I really like the look of the bars. But if I want to get serious about this I should probably look at maximizing the amount of OZ I get for my fiat

>>23664588
You can Sovereigns online for near to spot. So I think a lot of them mad it over the pond a while ago.

Remember anons. This is what has been admitted in the COMEX. The market want to manipulate down gold and silver to continue the manipulation of the stock market. Remember history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAZjlxWNszw

>>23667425
I’ve got a pair of asahi 10 oz bars and they look fantastic. I definitely recommend anything asahi.

>>23661142
More detail pics of the gold Britannia plz

>>23666551
good start

>>23667251
yeah i'm gonna say based

>>23666551
Any of you guys post your stacks behind a vpn?

>>23658242
>>23666666

comfy Sunday

>tfw no free market

>>23665961

Hah I wish anon! I just buy one gram instead with my meager paycheck.

>>23668772

Damnit I forgot my image.

>>23661215
If you truly believe we are entering a precious metals bull market with both metals seeing new ATH, it is VERY likely that this anon is correct in his estimations. Companies like bayhorse with good properties bad balance sheets are simply a hyper leveraged way to speculate on the price of PM'S. The management are clearly betting on a bull run of this proportion. If they're wrong, the ship will sink. If they're right, sky's the limit.

>>23668476
no. thats why we post pictures of our guns too

>>23668476
No, that why Yuropoors post stack with crossbows and knives

>>23669044

That's a nice kukri. What brand?

>>23668800
she could pay me to fugg off, if you know what i mean

Bump

>>23658242
How often are the Belgian 5 francs coins faked? Would I be safe buying one off eBay? Thinking about picking one up for the Chad hand chopper Leopold II

>>23669921
Don't take my word for it but I've seen far fewer fakes with foreign coins than I have with a lot of burger stuff
I'm of the opinion that you get high-value historic coins slabbed, buy cull stackables from a reputable dealer, and you should be dodging most good fakes, just diligently check your foreign coins. Don't get anything gold unless it's from a dealer tho imo

>>23670011
Checked, and yeah I would never buy gold off eBay no matter how reputable the dealer lol. I’ve seen some other anons recommend “mbarrcoins”, do you have any experience with them?

War chest is finally full. Time to get a real place to hide my stuff.

>>23670044
I've seen that seller, I think they're okay in the sense that they'll check what they sell but I would still get it independently verified. apmex is another reputable company and I have to laugh about how they have an ebay front on top of their website

I always hesitate to buy coins on eBay but with the relatively large amount of spec data for 20th-century foreign coins you can normally very quickly ID fakes, especially because they're not as profitable for the chinks to fake and sell
Usually it's good to also do a quick google search for "x coin fake" to see if people have recorded encounters with fakes
Either way you're relatively safe so long as you test your coins and have them looked at by a third party since you can find a fake and just get your money back

>>23670758
I need to get rolls of cull shit desu
They're surprisingly high value

>>23670838
i only have 1 roll of cull, the rest are in better shape. I put them in rolls cause of storage. Sucks when I want to check them out.

>>23664659
Because we're mostly buyers

>>23670881
yeah, that's the real answer

>>23670817
Thanks for the advice, I found this https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=375625 when I searched “Belgium 5 frans fake”. Apparently there are no know fakes but some of them were shaved to extract silver, so I should be able to get a genuine one on eBay

>>23669044
Condor kukri eh? Nice, I've always loved a good chopping blade. An excellent short sword type weapon that operates similarly is the ancient Greek/Thracian "Makhaira" that was recreated in 22.6 inch full tang by Schrade. It's pretty cheap and a truly awesome versatile brush sword or commiechopper, my favorite all purpose blade.

I have an unremarkable original 18th century katana that I painstakingly resharpened and was able to chop down live trees up to 4.5 inches in diameter with one clean slice, katanas are no fucking joke but I'd rather avoid being called a weeb and use something cheaper and more replaceable in minecraft.

>>23670044
I bought that 100 pesetas coin from mbarr
no complaints

How much of a PM stack in current USD value does one need to make it?

>>23671223
I spent 12k so far this year. It's never enough.
Anyway, does any anon know if monument metals does mint sealed silver eagles? I'm only seeing it for preorder on jmbullion and apmex.

>>23671223
A 500 oz silver 10-20 oz gold. I wish i had gold.

>>23671337
there was a tube of 2021 preorder for the half year of old (good) design. should still be up

>>23671360
I thought the suicide stack was 10oz gold AND 1000oz silver?

>>23671411
I know, I just wanted to see if I can get a mint sealed one though.

>>23671431
what do you mean, like a monster box? i dont think the us mint does holo stickers for sealed tubes

>>23671454
https://www.apmex.com/product/218590/2021-1-oz-silver-eagles-20-coin-md-premier-pcgs-fs-tube

the Japs are pumping lads!

>>23670044
>buy gold off providentmetals.com, a reputable company
>their ebay store is clearly only fakes and chinese forgeries
The eBay FUD'ers never fail to amaze me

>>23671505
wow, color me impressed i wasnt expecting that, i dont really see the point though

>>23671223
I have something like 4-5k and I feel like a complete poorfag retard. I wish I had $1000 worth of food stored up and at least double my current stack.

>silver currently outperforming gold
Is it happening?

>>23671967
Yes.

>>23658242
whos got opinions on cuff links and nicer men's accessories

>>23672022
Are those gold filled?

>>23672048
naw, sterling silver with funny lighting.

>>23663467
Kek now anyone with a stack worth stealing is in some criminals blackbook. With jew you lose

>>23663467
Good thing all of my precious metals were purchased locally with cash

>>23671586
It’s ok, I’ll take care of your stack once you starve.

>>23672585
>Money has no motherland
True, and in my case this is beneficial because I am a le*f

A little Kinobar, a 2020 sovereign, PHYS, GOLD/KL/NEM, or wait it out a week?

Should I buy $18.50FV for $270? It's under melt but I'm scared of getting burned if PMs drop because I already spent my budget for this month

>>23673097
>I'm scared of getting burned if PMs drop because I already spent my budget for this month
My guess is that price will drop, but you will probably need to search hard for a deal. I'll bet there are going to be far too many buyers.

>>23673167
He's been trying to sell these quarters for a while, I was going to buy $10FV but I had to cancel on wednesday. Was thinking of buying them all and selling half to a LCS but that might be a retarded idea

>>23673211
I guess it would depend on your stack and goals. I'd be happy to swap out some loose eagles, maples, or generics for 90% right now.

>>23671223

>>23673334
I love junk silver but the best I can get is 90% melt at a LCS. With maples and ASEs i can get a $1 over spot minimum. I don't intend to sell for a long, long time so it's not the biggest deal but if an emergency ever came up that -10% could make a big difference

>>23673428
Tabulate your opportunity cost and consider a purchase based on the spread. I still doubt you'll get near spot often enough moving forward. If that was my wad for "the dip" id be holding onto it

>>23673428
you can sell for over spot on r/pmsforsale or r/coins4sale

>>23673428
Sell it on Ebay, it's full of retards who'll pay well above spot for all manner of junk silver.

>>23663467
I got the same letter. Thye probably outsourced their site maintenance to pajeets. We should all call them pretending to make a big order, waste their time asking for quotes, then cuss them out.

https://twitter.com/StrikepointGold/status/1323100873229168641

For those interested in Strikepoint Gold. I thought they would release a news very late so I was going to buy them in january, might just back them this month instead.

>>23674223
finally! they were having the same issues as Ascot and a couple other companies with all the new covid safe guards with the vancouver assay office. Cant wait to see what they have found.

>>23669306
It is the Condor 13 inch machete kukri, Condor makes two, this one and the heavy kukri

>>23671064
Hey if it gets the job done who cares being called a weeb, although I agree 18th century is antique and a bit precious got any pics?

asteroid mining

I bought the Combibar, I finally did it. I will never recoup the premium, but it was worth it, it is so beautiful.

>>23675784
Happy for you, brah.

>>23675784
In the UK the individual 1g bars sell for £5

>>23675120
>pipe dream

will gold dip again if trump wins?

>>23676142
No, that was it. We're going to the moon now.

>>23675836
thanks man, I could never justify it to myself, but I finally said fuck it, who cares, it's more for the joy of holding it than an investment.
>>23675949
>1g bars sell for £5
do people actually pay that though? I can't imagine paying for an individual gram.

>>23676253
Every single day.

>>23676253
At least £3-4 per every bar listed anyway

>>23676298
>>23676279
I'm thinking I need to start finessing the market here. those prices are insane. I have never met a person in the US who has bought a single 1 gram silver coin. I've bought a gram of gold, but buying a gram of silver seems insane. the premium is like 500%.

>>23661152
Is it possible for someone to add aussie pre-decimal coins to this chart?

>>23676142
“After the election, we’ll get the best stimulus package you’ve ever seen,” - Trump

no.

>>23658242
Who’s baking?

>>23677089 (You)