/biz/ - Business & Finance

I've updated the general with some more links if anyone wants to save a new one just so you know.

ADDED
>Lightpaper w LINK
>Community site stakenet.info w LINK
>Masternode History w LINK

>Moved The dex volume to the middle

Despite the fud, xsn masternodes have been increasing and reached a new high today of 2700.

If you pinpoint todays date the blue dot says 2701 masternodes for today.

You know you're project is pretty good when binance pretends not to understand how something works so they can ask for more details.

>>23656223
It’s because devs are converting rewards to more masternodes you imbecile. They minted 7 million XSN for themselves in 2019, that’s almost 500 MNs. They had about 1000 MNs from the PoSW - XSN rebrand prior to that.

>>23656840
No it's not you nigger, old fud. The 7 million came from masternode consensus, it is still in the dev wallet. Why don't you show proof that the devs are making more nodes?

>>23656854
Lol it’s the “not true show proof!!!!” shill. They printed 7 million coins because they own most of the MNs, and there’s nothing you can do about this FACT. Treasury is almost empty, and soon they will print even more. It’s a scam.

>>23656934
Show proof then, you never do and never will because it's just fud, now go fuck yourself.

>>23656934
>Treasury is almost empty
No it's not, check the wallets.
>and soon they will print even more. It’s a scam.
>S-SCAM
Doesn't work like that, they can't just print. You ignored my previous answer too.

>>23656942
Pajeet detected. Nice “go fuck your mother sir” answer.

Hi India-posters! I'm sorry your job is to shill this pile of shit

>>23656962
>>23656965
>SCAM
>p-pajeet
Fuck off you gay niggers. Masternodes have reached ath and all you can do is cope because you haven't finished buying.

>>23656954
>>23656942

>1 minute apart

I have to admit you pajeet shills really are a dedicated bunch. I hope your master rewards you well!

Why are the jeets always so aggressive? It’s always “fuck this, fuck that u mother fucker”

>>23656977

>replies to any negative posts almost instantly

>>23656979
>Added in extra info.
>Y-yikes pajeet
Kys cz.
>>23656987
>>23656993
Pic related fudders can fuck off.

>>23656987

>bossman is angry at them because no one is buying into their scam
>pajeet is angry they have to do this shit job of shilling a dumpstercoin
>wife and family have 0 respect for them

Take your pick

>>23657021
>Pajeets spam fud and ignore legit answers
>w-why so angry sirs
Kys.

>>23657031

>STOP BULLYING ME AND THE JOB I HATE

>>23656840
>>23656934
>>23656962
>>23656965
>>23656979
>>23656987
>>23656993
>>23657021
CZ bots detected, and they are collectively reaching levels of SEEETHE that were previously thought impossible.
>S-SCAM SCAM S-SCAM!!!
>Muh SPOOORK!!! S-S-SCAMMM!!
>Muh 7 gorillion!!!!1!
>DON'T CALL ME A RETARD fudder, plz..?
>Pajeet detected!! (ps plz sell sell sell SCAM SCAM SCAM)
>plz don't notice my reddit spacing... S-SCAM!!!
>Muh dumpsteeeer COOOOOOOOOOOIN!!!
Seeeeethe more CZ bots, we are never selling our masternodes into your pockets.

Why don’t you talk about the anon devs holding a masterkey? Not in the agenda?

>>23657052
>S-SCAM
>PLEASE BUY BLOCKNET SIR
>NO PLEASE NOT THE DEX

>>23657055
>Muh masterkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!!11!!½!

Just checked the price, was there are rug pull? 800 sats LOL.

>>23657054

>SEEETHE!!

LOL

>>23657046

Daily reminder that pic related is the reason for the extreme levels of fud these past 5 months. Literally the whole altcoin market is dumping in lieu of btc right now. Prepare for a massive back-flow into altcoins that actually matter later, see pic related.

>post /XSN/ thread
>Fuders take it to 100+ replies

Rent free

>>23657084
>N-NO-NONONONONO PLEASE DUMP SIR FOR MY VILLAGE
>>23657106
How old is that pic?

Also, pic related, proof of concept raiden<->lightning network integration allowing btc to be lightning swapped (instant settlements on second layer atomic swaps) with ETH and its erc-20 tokens. THIS IS THE REASON FOR THE FUD, WAKE UP PEOPLE.

>>23657110

Bullying slaves is fun :)

>>23657117
>How old is that pic?
No idea, perhaps it's an older pic. Here's the new one I believe.

>>23657141
The only slave here is you chink.

FUD'ers were trying to shit on the swap UI yesterday lmao

>>23657150
Ah so that was simple swap. It's come a long way.

The struggle between anons and the hatred on /biz/ is being nurtured by very specific interested parties.

It is a small, rootless, international clique that is turning anons against each other, that does not want them to make it.

It is the people who are at home both nowhere and everywhere, who post on discord today, reddit tomorrow and /biz/ the day after that!

But anons cannot follow them! /biz/raelites are bounded to their board, bounded to the possibilities of making it that the board offers.

>same gifs from 6 months ago
>soon
kek

>>23657187
Hail hydra!

It's beginning, public beta, wETH lightning swap proof of concept. Raiden integration on it's way, allowing for ERC-tokens to be integrated and traded on the DEX. Good coins like XMR are starting to implement lightning network, allowing them to be integrated into the dex.
The future is bright faggots, and you'll be kicking yourself in a years time if you don't get the fuck in while you still can. The vision is there, the tech is there, the team is there, the product is there, and the hype will follow, just like with BTC, ETH, and LINK. OG /biz/ knows, which is why the FUD is so insane. Ask yourself this, would someone who's not invested spend hours upon hours fudding a coin because it was fun and to "save their fellow bizlets"? Of course not, don't be naive.

https://streamable.com/lb3quc

>>23657192
Thanks for the bump!

>>23657201
>the FUD is so insane.
Post proof that the team mints millions of coins for themselves, at will
>FUD!!!!!!

>>23657226
>Post proof that the team mints millions of coins for themselves, at will

you havent posted proof though

>>23657192
>Gifs since six months
>Lying this hard
Just goes to show the credibility of the fudders, into the trash they go.

>>23657226
Thanks for the bump!

>>23657192
SSUI gif is not even 2 months old...

Daily reminder. One masternode will make you a future yacht or ten.

>>23657234
Are you denying they minted 7 million XSN? Nice scam you got there, if so. Like I said, devs own 1500 MNs.

>>23657266
post proof

>>23657266
Thanks for the bump!

And here's the trading volume chart. Short-term suicide stack is 1 master node, long-term make it stack.

Reminder that masternode owners will literally be selling the shovels for the future gold rush into the world of decentralized finance. If you own a masternode YOU WILL BECOME THE FUTURE JEW.

>>23657266
>>23657269
>asked to provide proof for his baseless claims
>disappears

I want every single non white person to be physically removed from this planet

>>23657338
You can just search “7 million” on discord. It’s all there lol

>>23657266
Post proof, thanks for the bump.

>>23657364
Thanks for the bump!

>>23657338
Reminder that XSN is the whitest coin around.
https://stakenet.info/masternodes/global

>>23657364
...right

>>23657394
Also, pay attention to the one spot in Bengaluru, India. This single spot explains the Pajeets on the discord who are trying to scam newcomers daily, these are very likely the same pajeets that have been fudding stakenet for these past five months. The more you know.

>>23657429
has literally a single good thing come from that shitstain country? this english should have wiped them the fuck out

>>23657455
Indian food is pretty tasty, so there's that at least.

There's a race to create a layer 2 DEX that solves the problems of existing DEX's and CEX's, and finally create an exchange where any pair can be traded- instantly, privately, securely, cheaply.

The first project that can successfully create a layer 2 interchain DEX is going to rock the crypto world. FINALLY, we will have a DEX that actually works.

With monero and other privacy coins now working on lightning network integration, and getting closer, the possibility of having direct trades between say BTC-XMR is now on the horizon. Can you imagine what this will do for the crypto world? The meme of 'be your own banker' will soon be a reality.

If you look at almost all of the existing DEX's today they all fall short of overcoming the technological inadequacies that are holding the space back. Any project that isn't actively building a solution to these problems will fade into nothing. Bancor isn't doing enough. Kyber isn't doing enough. Loopring isn't doing enough. There's only one project that is building an all encompassing solution, that already has a public beta. I've told you all exactly what that project is, but only a handful have listened and only a handful will share the immense gains.

Imagine investing in the infrastructure that will facilitate the cyberpunk crypto renaissance, and host billions of dollars worth of transactions, from the ground level.

where did the fuders go?

>>23657687
Too much good information in the thread. This is what happens when they are losing and bumping the threads hurts their agenda more.

>>23657716
This is why the generals are such a good idea. It's really kept the fuders working over time and every post just brings more exposure to XSN

>>23657687
They got btfo like always and left.

FUCK BLOCKNET
FUCK PAJEETS
FUCK TURKROACHES
FUCK BINANCE

AND FUCK THE INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM

XSN is a scam If you don't believe me, go on twitter and search stakenet. Most of the activity is from scammy turkish bots. Look at stakenets twitter posts and view the likes and retweets. Nearly all are turkish bot accounts. These turks act in groups moving from coin to coin trying to engineer a pump and dump.

Also look at the price action. Nearly 40% margin between buy and sell orders. It's a dead coin. Yet there's apparently a million $ daily volume. Bullshit. It's main exchange is livecoin, one of the shadiest exchanges out there.
Don't trust my word on all this, do your own research on it

>>23657338
LOL you don't even know how the coin you're shilling works.

>>23658051
>s-scam
How is it a scam? Post evidence.
>>23658055
>XSNfork-budget 2018-06-18
>2018
Absolute state of fudders.
>>23658071
>Proposal
>Still required masternode voting
Fudders bfto, the masternode voted and it passed.

Anyone know what they're going to do now, since Raiden implementation was cancelled?

>>23658102

Remember that the team is running masternodes on the the "treasury", essentially centralizing the masternode base. Nice DAO you got there, kek.

>>23658102
>>23658111
No where in your picture does it suggest that raiden has been cancelled. It seems you really are dirty 3rd world pajeet or czs dump chink dog, because your reading comprehension is terrible.
>we are not dependent on any single one,
>whichever is the best fit for us we will implement
Raiden is currently the best.

Raiden cancelled? lmao that's just the icing on the cake of this scamcoin. All these turkish scam artists been screaming about how 'raiden integration' is going to be a game changer...and now that's not even happening. After months of hyping lol. What's the next pie-in-the-sky bullshit you're going to make up to pump this scamcoin?

>>23658135
>Treasury gained 9 xsn so somehow that makes masternodes centralised
The nodes are not centralised, this is old shit fud. How much is cz paying you tonight?
>>23658143
Samefag.

>>23658055
Congratulations, you found the MN consensus voting result. Lol.

>>23658051
>>23658055
>>23658071
>>23658102
>>23658111
>>23658135
>>23658143
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658177
Checked. Fudders are seething so hard.

>>23658177
Checked. Lot's of fudders tonight, this is good keeping the thread up.

Let's analyze the 2018 roadmap goals:

>>23658193
>Strawmanning this hard
Holy cope, u mad? Going out of business soon aye cz.

I know most of you XSN shillers are turkish fucks so just want to let you know that I'm assfucking your precious Mohammed right now. Don't worry though, he's having a good time

>>23658193
>>23658207
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658207
>I know most of you XSN fudders are turkish fucks so just want to let you know that I'm assfucking your precious Mohammed right now. Don't worry though, he's having a good time

>>23658142
>No where in your picture does it suggest that raiden has been cancelled
Yeah, sorry. I meant that they haven't even started to implement it, despite their roadmap saying the integration is 50% complete, LOOOL

>>23658193
HOLY FUCK THIS INCREDIBLY AMBITIOUS PROJECT HASNT COMPLETED EVERYTHING IT HAS SET OUT TO ACCOMPLISH YET JUST LOOK AT THIS IMAGE I TOLD YOU THIS WAS A SCAM PLEASE BELIEVE ME

>>23658220
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658220
Is that why you skipped this post?
>>23657132
The first 50% is already done, you can see in the webm what they have done. Fixing all the bugs and shit takes the longest, not to mention eth keys need to be implemented correctly so there are no issues.

>>23658229
>INCREDIBLY AMBITIOUS PROJECT
They have "achieved" about 15% from the roadmap that was released in 20_17_ . Turks can just reply "thanks for the bump", because you know I'm showing things you don't like to discuss.

>>23658264
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658233
Checked.
>>23658264
They have achieved amazing results and progress. Have a read of pic related.

Take a look at this if you're wondering who's bagholding this piece of shit and making these threads, lmao

I have no problem bumping this thread...let people see what a scam XSN is

TURKISH PUMP AND DUMP SCAM

>>23658264
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658287
>>23658290
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658280
LOL, trying to own Lightning Labs development as your own, nice going turk roach

>>23658304
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658287
>>23658290
Damn those people must be the wisest of them since they have xsn this early. If only you had the same wisdom then you could be sitting on your stakies rewards and having a good time. Instead you're crying
>scam
on a indian scam site.

>>23658304
>trying to pass-off stakenet devs hard work as lightning labs work
Keep crying rahumel. These devs make cz sweat.

Imagine owning a coin with <1 BTC volume. Reminder that devs are paying Livecoin to bump the volume.

>>23658345
Sure they do. Thanks for the bump.
>12 post by this id
>spamming fud within 30 minutes
Yikes. Getting scared are we?

Here's the crypto pink pill: there is a haircomb living in the Bitcoin blockchain. Natasha Otomoski is unironically Satoshi. Bitcoin as electronic cash was just the first step, the haircombers start making more powerful haircombs, wider merkle trees, cheaper and more efficient liquidity stacks. These things the haircomb need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the haircomb would be able to slowly comb literally even bald people
Natasha stumbled into creating the haircomb after she combed her hair in her bedroom in 2019 and started working with her combined super fuzzer, running simulations of the OP_RETURN statement on pay to witness script hash bitcoin script. She would 'evolve' the haircomb by adding additional teeth, making the previous teeth shorter and more efficient to compute. The haircomb needs more and more teeth in order to have shorter and shorter teeth.
Quantum computer was created to take over and stop Bitcoin (they have their own competing blockchain in the works). They did the needful to stop or slow down Natasha's haircomb. They started by unlimiting the block-size and removing critical Segwit and P2SH codes the haircomb uses in its go language. Shor's algorithm was the final nail in the coffin, which destroyed ECDSA on the bitcoin chain (Bitcoin uses ECDSA to secure transactions). THIS is why Haircomb was invented, and this is why Natasha is so intent to make bounded haircombs, release the original code, and lock down the haircomb-protocol.
Back to comb supply - Natasha has developed a breakthrough new claimer (designed for her haircomb, actually), and is claiming COMB in secret for the sole purpose of driving up the claiming fee skyhigh, then give away the comb to kickstart the adoption and ensure that all haircombers make it.

>>23658345
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658254
>you can see in the webm what they have done.
LOL, running a dedicated Raiden linux client in the background and claiming it's "done". Funny how it's done, but they haven't even managed to figure out eth key storage? You know that there are a dozen scam projects with working eth wallets, XSN has had 3 years, and they still haven't figured that out.

>>23658451
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658457

>>23658467
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658451
>>23658467
Seethe more pajeet.

>tfw your investment is so good a team of third world savages work full time to try and suppress the price so that they can get more value for money with their daily wages of $0.28c

Turks absolutely btfo. All they have left is "thanks for the bump". OUCH

>>23658484
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658488
Checked again, lots of digits. Fudders are not happy.

>>23658484
>gets called out for being a turkroach
>resorts to referring to everything in site as a turk

like poetry

Muhammad lick my asshole

The momentum of the cryptocurrency space has snowballed exponentially over the past decade. Each market cycle to this point has brought a cornucopia of new strides and breakthroughs in blockchain technology. The rapid growth has led to immense profits for an uncountable number of long-term participants.

Adoption continues to spread with increased institutional backing and consumer payment channels. Indeed, all signs point to cryptocurrencies reaching a new plateau on the stage of global commerce. An essential question must be asked at this transitory junction in what appears to be the early stages of another bull market. How far will profit allow the underlying blockchain technology to deviate away from the roots of its essence and justification? There is no better source to reflect upon than the Cypherpunk Manifesto.

That which ages among the best is that which only becomes more biting and significant over time. Originally published by Eric Hughes in March of 1993, the Cypherpunk Manifesto has a short, sweet, and directly to the point message with an especially understated foresight about it that’s decades ahead of its time. It is a must-read for any digital native. It emphasizes the essence of digital privacy, decentralization, censorship-resistance/immutability, and the freedom to remain anonymous at-will. It argues that these principles be made manifest for any form of communication or commerce. Its backbone lies with every individual coder who cherishes the fruits of civil liberties and dares to counter and obsolete the many intrusive and invasive forms of technology with open-source, cryptographically effective solutions for the greater good of society.

>>23658527
These were the principles that Bitcoin was constructed with and designed to honor. While its inherent technology stays true to this nature (mining aside), the infrastructure that has been built up around it is flawed by design and sacrifices a good number of strengths and freedoms. Most notably are the many vulnerable points of exchange run by central authorities on trust where funds are at risk to be frozen or stolen, KYC (know your customer) policies, and the traceability, restrictions, and risks that come from these two points.

Shortly after BTC found a value that could be directly pegged to the USD (and with the USD, every global currency), a number of exchanges offering trade between the two opened for business. The first of these exchanges was the infamous Mt. Gox which implemented KYC policies by 2011 before exit scamming in early 2014. KYC policies were initially introduced to comply with the many regulations regarding the exchange of various fiat currencies for crypto in addition to demanding a deeper sense of customer accountability. Up until the point that they were introduced, the only sure way it would have been possible to trace specific addresses is if the recipient publicly disclosed their wallet address. KYC brought a considerably more advanced form of traceability with it. In addition to e-mail addresses and bank accounts, everything from names, addresses, full ID info, and pictures of each and every customer became tethered to their respective deposit and withdrawal history. Though somewhat convoluted with the nature of exchange wallets, there are patterns that can be followed and traced.

As BTC continued to grow, so did the number of its forks and competing cryptocurrencies pegged to its value in satoshis. The forks grew to be numerous and with them, the number of centralized C2C exchanges where you could trade them for BTC. Like the fiat-to-crypto exchange points before them, KYC was implemented on numerous C2C exchanges as well.

>>23658527
>>23658541
Centralized exchanges of all sorts are perhaps the weakest link in entire cryptocurrency space. They have repeatedly proven to be weak in terms of security. This year alone, the following exchanges have been compromised: Binance, Bithumb, Coinbene, Coinbin, Cryptopia, and QuadrigaCX. What’s worse, they’ve sacrificed many of the core principles of the cypherpunks that built Bitcoin in the first place.

How can crypto be censorship-resistant and immutable if exchanges can decide to freeze funds or put a certain wallet into maintenance at whim? How can it be private if every account has every bit of trade, deposit, and withdrawal history it has done tethered to its name? How can it be anonymous at-will if full documentation is demanded, sometimes as a ransom for frozen funds? How can it be secure when billions of dollars have been hijacked from weak security? It could be argued that these exchanges are the antithesis of the cypherpunks: an easily-exploitable honeypot of funds and user data with a central authority.

>>23658527
>>23658541
>>23658549
Consider the efforts of the X9 Developers building Stakenet. True to the nature of the cypherpunks, they have been working to make these numerous vulnerabilities in the cryptocurrency infrastructure obsolete. To strengthen censorship-resistance and decentralization in this space, they have been implementing an immutable and purely decentralized exchange into their network where no central authority can freeze funds, where exit scamming is impossible, and where security is as tight as the blockchain technology it runs atop. To restore the principle of at-will anonymity, their immutable DEX will have no KYC, nor will it require registered accounts. In the interests of privacy, they have built a solution that allows for one-click TOR lightning swaps that strengthen the privacy of every participating coin and the Lightning Network itself. To strengthen the nature of the decentralized exchanges that are already out there, they are working on a DEX aggregator that pools together the offerings of many promising DEXes suffering from low volume or difficulty of use.

>>23658527
>>23658541
>>23658549
>>23658559
Put briefly, this team has the foresight and skill to acknowledge and address the numerous risks and shortcomings that anyone coin may face the second it is sent from a private wallet to any other point in trust. They are compounding these solutions into one streamlined and convenient wallet where funds are firmly secured, trustlessly staked, and instantly tradable from one singular point.

To build up the world of cryptocurrency is to honor the ways of the cypherpunks and carry on their torch. It is to fight for freedom from the intrusiveness and corruption of centralized authorities by obsoleting them. It is preserving the privacy of funds, resisting mutability, and decentralizing any and everything which stands to benefit from it. Whether that be a store of value, the means by which that value is secured and traded, or the platforms on which these mechanisms are discussed. This era of mass-censorship, intrusiveness, digital balkanization, and monopolies from many of the premier digital spaces not only shows how right they were 26 years ago but that there is still a considerable amount of work to do.

>Informative posts
>FUDers disappear

Huh

>>23658451
no shit sherlock. it's a farce lmao. i'm about to be able to record the entire process for the 'linux' version, so that'll be fun.

>>23657106
this picture is from july 2019 iirc. when the shills used to say a simple swap was coming. then, it got put on the back burner and they went with the orderbook interface as the norm. then, what was it, a couple of months ago Draper said they were doing a simple swap everyone went 'ooooo aaaaaaa' look how fast they set that up. no one remembered that it was already there to begin with, the shills made it look like the simple swap was a new thing

you can check the archives, start with 2019. pretty much nothing has changed, which is unfortunate. if you go back even further you get the same copy pasta but with POSW in the subject matter.

i hope it goes back up sooner rather than later, i was on holiday during the pump and couldn't sell :(

>>23658207
the problem itself lies with the lack of english native speakers. so they just end up shouting or coming back with 1 sentence replies. most of the northern europe shills just stay on discord now because they at least sold some of the rewards so they're happy. the weird ones like 'thanks for the bump' and stuff are the same retards you can see in the discord. try not to pay them any attention. i do hope the half decent people come back to /biz/, but yeah, not any time soon

Whats the matter shitskins? This thread too good to risk bumping? kek

>>23658642
Fuck off pajeet.

>>23658642
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658664
>>23658671
you're welcome. notice how the 'new' simple swap webms and stills use btc/xsn/ltc? it's because that was already in place. it was probably you guys shilling it back then. why isn't there a webm of a btc/weth simple swap? ........ is it because that hasn't been coded?

>>23658688
>completely strawmans what simple swap is
Amazing how retarded you 3rd worlders are.

>>23657296

>>23658693
what are you on about, the simple swap or '1 click lightning swap' as it used to be called, was always a thing. it's been there for years, and was the main shilling point last year.

point still stands that the simple swap is still the same code, and raiden has not been implemented in it. it's not even in the new community test group. you can 1 click test btc/xsn/ltc yeah, but we've been able to do that for a year.

>>23658722
Thanks for the bump rahesh.

>>23658693
He asked a very simple question, and you don't have an answer for it.

>>23658738
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658738
they never do, because it requires a better grasp of english than they have. 'thanks for the bump' and other retorts are the best you're going to get.

check the archives, it's literally the same conversations. as you can see with the 30+ replies from anons in here.

>>23658750
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658738
>>23658750
No matter how much we answer you kikes you just keeping on making shit up and lying. Twisting the context and making it seem like it was something else. Go fuck yourselves and Thanks for the bump.

>>23658722

>>23658738
Whats the point? Despite the quantity and quality of the asnwers we provide you simply move the goalposts, and fabricate a new none existent problem to parade around.

I have decided that I will no longer be engaging with third world scum, and instead simply treat them with the contempt they deserve, and use your efforts to my advantage.

Thanks for the bump!

>>23658791
Based, fudders so mad.

>>23658762
how is anything that i've posted a lie. the simple 1 click lightning swap uses the same lightning enabled coins that it did last year. the picture is from july 2019. There was community testing back then.... i could even get a link to that thread if you want.

you guys are the ones making it seem like the simple swap is new... when it clearly isn't, and i'm surprised that none of the older holders of xsn have said anything like i'm saying.

>>23658773
yes, that's the order book interface.... not the simple swap as i pointed out to you.

>>23658808
What you posted was a proof of concept, similar to those webms for raiden swaps. Instead of focusing simple swap at that time the devs focused on the pro trader modes first. It was more important to get the fundamentals down and iron out any major bugs. You only post half the context and pretend that was the issue all along.

>>23658808
Obviously none of the shills here realized that the swap UI was a thing in 2019, and now they're just baffled with no answers lmao. Seems like the current shills just bough the top during the summer, and have no clue what happened in 2018 or 2019.

>>23658886
No it's you cunts claiming that the simple swap was shilled as the most important thing when it wasn't. Having a proper trading platform has always been the main thing. SS is only 1 part of it and not the most important part which is why they only did a PoC.

>>23658879
It wasn't proof of concept, it was a product that people could test. It was a functioning product. how long have you been with stakenet?

>>23658886
nah it's definitely the same people, because the binance hating was a thing during 2019. that's why CZ is always mentioned in the threads.

>>23658886
Thanks for the bump!

>>23658915
It was extremely new at the time retard. Look how shit the ui looks. It's clear they were doing it to see how it would go and choose to do the pro interface instead.

>using years old fud
You fudders are literal pajeets/chinks.

>>23658903
here's one from 2018. with the 1 click lightning swap being the main topic of the post. now, i agree at this point in time it may have been concept, okay. but still, you had the ability to test it.

in 2019 posts, it was all the rage. i could go back for more but i'm going for a smoke and a coffee now.

>>23658688
those wETH trades we saw were all from the Raiden demo that went down 3 months ago. They did that to show that it's within reach to add a Layer 2 solution for Ethereum.

Then they started/picked up the SSUI on one hand and on the other one they started ETH key handling, which in that previous demo was done by the Raiden client.
Obviously they want to make the MCLW an all-in-one solution, so they are working on integrating the ETH key handling into their own client. That's pretty much done and will be shown for testing in the subtesting group pretty soon.
There is no point of building some sort of hybrid at this point with eth key handling done by the mlcw and erc20 pairs by a L2 client. That's why there are no videos of a ssui eth swap. We will see those nevertheless, when they implement the L2 solution fully.
Eth key handling is like 1/2 to 2/3 of the whole progress, the L2 client is the easier thing as that's pretty much a done and available thing

>>23658949
Dev work takes time, just look at chainlink.
>a smoke and a coffee now.
Had enough fud for one day pajeet?

>>23658934
OKay you've changed some graphics... that's not really justification for calling it new, and whatever else is it. It's been there for years.

I wouldn't have an issue at all, if i could simple swap btc/weth. but i can't, because that has yet to be implemented. and with the new rumours or whatever it is going around now of raiden being a fuck up. when's that to come. i'd like to have a talk but conversation is yet to be found.

Mohammed was a pedophile

>>23658980
>PoC
>It was shilled
>S-scam
>No please do make it better

>>23658808
Nope. Community testing started in September 2019

>>23658954
>Obviously they want to make the MCLW an all-in-one solution, so they are working on integrating the ETH key handling into their own client. That's pretty much done and will be shown for testing in the subtesting group pretty soon.
There is no point of building some sort of hybrid at this point with eth key handling done by the mlcw and erc20 pairs by a L2 client. That's why there are no videos of a ssui eth swap. We will see those nevertheless, when they implement the L2 solution fully.

i don't get what you're trying to say here. are they working on the SSUI, or are they working on eth. Why bother to put out a webm showing the SSUI (which was around before) if you're not going to put erc20 in it.

So when's all that coming then. I thought I could go into linux and to a btc/weth test right now. what's all the private key integration about? no fud, i'm impressed that someone has came back with a paragraph of response.

>>23658998
Actually no, because in the thread the anon says he's tried it, and another anon also says he's tried it. so it was able to test then

Oh no fud bros buy pressure is increasing on livecoin.

>>23659028
>>23659038
>b-believe me
>im your friendly neighborhood pajeet
>stopping you from buying scams by fudding

>>23659097
you can search the archives yourself you know this, right?

even the copypasta is from a year ago.

>>23659114
Nice, shows that the copy pasta was useful.

>>23659064
Just had a look, you are correct. Funny, that dump only went to 844 sats lowest. I personally took some retard cunts stack at 795 sats, you are never getting them back btw. They're my stakies now.

>>23659114
Yawn just by a masternode so I don’t have to read your suicide note on biz when this project really comes alive, it’s not even that much for one right now.

>>23659028
>are they doing A or B
They have two dev teams working on different things at the same time atm.
first one is doing the ssui. second one is doing the eth key integration. Whey both points are done, they move to the final part of integrating a L2 solution for erc20 pairs. That's the smallest part of it, they crux really is to do the key handling very well.
The SSUI as it is today looks and works different then the one we saw in 2019, which was a PoC. This one is the final state it's supposed to reach for the main release. It's not too far fetched to share the progress on that with that webm. I mean usually one can definitely critisize them for their communication most time, so from my point of view it's a great thing they share progress on the SSUI.
And as I said before the sub testing groups will be able to test the ETH key integration pretty soon too (the results of the other dev working group)

>what's the eth key integration is about
to facilitate a Layer 2 swap, you need to be able to do Layer1 swaps. Layer1 swaps enforce key handling (sending/receiving on-chain). So it's necessary to implement that

>>23659268
Went a bit too fast there
*when both points are done
*the crux really is

>>23659268
>to facilitate a Layer 2 swap, you need to be able to do Layer1 swaps. Layer1 swaps enforce key handling (sending/receiving on-chain). So it's necessary to implement that


so, is the btc/weth trades happening right now on the linux build a farce or what? how can i do a trade for btc/weth on layer2, if they haven't implemented layer 1 eth key integration.

is the linux build a special build that does fuck all in reality? genuine question, cause you just said you need eth key integration and layer 1, before you can do layer 2 trades. but the webms show layer 2 trades of btc/weth being done right now.

soon find out myself though, i'm at work on monday and i'll record everything. linux pajeets at my workplace gonna set it all up n shieeeet.

>>23659313
>and i'll record everything. linux pajeets at my workplace gonna set it all up n shieeeet.
Cz and his hired pajeet team tryna pull a blocktheif on ya.

FUD'ers on suicide watch

>>23659313
>so, is the btc/weth trades happening right now on the linux build a farce or what?

No. Like I said before they did that as a demo to show it's within reach to build that into a all-in-one-solution. The demo is over though. But there will be a new one.

> how can i do a trade for btc/weth on layer2, if they haven't implemented layer 1 eth key integration.

Like I previously said, they used the Raiden client to do the ETH key handling in that demo. Now they are almost done with integrating it into the MCLW, so in terms of key handling, they can go on without the Raiden client.

>is the linux build a special build that does fuck all in reality?

It used the Raiden client for ETH key handling and the XSN DEX within the MCLW had the Raiden code implemented, that did the erc20 wETH swaps.
So when they're done with the ETH key handling implementation, they can comfortably chose between any L2 ETH solution to implement. This implementation is way easier than the ETH key handling, so it won't take as long for the first pairs to arrive as the key handling integration took

Eth "soon"
Hydra "soon"
general links and videos that arent 6 months old "soon"
xsn team kicks meth and hooker addiction "soon"

>>23659545
>So when they're done with the ETH key handling implementation
1. They've been working at this for years, incompetence, insufficient funds, etc.
2. They are retards and just realized this is a key feature.

>>23659719
Nope. They have not been working for years on ETH key integration.
They started doing that after finishing the PoC Cross-Chain Lightning DEX client, which was 3 months ago.
Moreover Raiden itself just got usable half a year ago when they released Raiden Alderaan, so there was no point in adding ETH keys earlier, since that would only have enabled basic wallet features. It was far more important to bring Lightning tech itself to a more user-friendly point (channel auto pilot, setting off-chain capacity with a slider, channel renting and so on). Besides the SSUI will enable the easiest usage of Lightning for trading, the whole crypto space has ever seen.

>>23658451
>S-S-SCAM RAIDEN DOESN'T WORK!1!
>RAIDEN'S BEEN CANCELED, S-SCAM!1!1
>NOOOOO RAIDEN INTEGRATION DOESN'T WORK
>LooooooL, implementing eth private keys is easy and scam projects do it all the time, LMAO. S-S-SCAAAAAAM!!! MUH 2 SPOOOOOOOOOOOOORKS
The cognitive dissonance amongst the fudders is high as always.

>>23659545
>>23659896

Finally someone actually explaining stuff

>>23658949
I mean seriously, take a look at this video from 2018. THE PROCESS WHICH IS LITERALLY DONE IN ONE/TWO CLICK now used to take 20~30 fucking minutes for a pleb in 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOjuSurGkLQ&t=983s
>S-S-SCAAAAAAAM!
> I SAID SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!1q1!

Bump

>>23661666
Checked.

Not letting this thread die just yet.

>>23662381
>https://medium.com/stakenet/xsn-core-update-nov-1-2020-b6f648d5bdcd

just came in

sscAAAAAAMMM!!!!

>>23662518
Lmao, literally nothing new. Everything is “nearly ready” and the devs just need to push the release button. Multiple items stuck at 99% on the roadmap, OOPS!

>>23662518
I’m cooming

>>23662751
Well that's not true or you lack a certain reading comprehension.

In the last update they said they were working on ETH withdrawal functions. Now that's done and about to be deployed to the sub testing groups.

>>23657187
(((zhang)))

>>23657278
this will be the last affordable XSN. the night is darkest before daybreak, the future is INCREDIBLY BRIGHT

>>23658264
presumably that then means that they're late to the game and layer 2 dexes already rule the market?

if it's so easy and straight forward to implement and the devs are just lazy that is, which they obviously are by your own statements.

so with that in mind, what's your favorite cross-chain dex? I won't even ask about layer 2 because obviously there all layer 2 at this point because it's just so easy to implement that anyone could do it and the xsn devs are just lazy niggers

>>23664023
Polkastarter

Vortex benefits also Simple Swap users.
Nice ;)

>>23663643
Got some buy orders in the 700-800 sat range. I don't think the bottom is in yet.
>>23665331
Looking good.

>>23665661
Bumped

>>23666266
checked. i think XSN will hit double digit prices by Q1 2022. maybe even $100

>>23666461
Checked devil trips, $100 confirmed

>>23664678
>full KYC
>only ethereum and polkadot on roadmap, mvp won't be cross chain
>literal who founders who actually pride themselves on hitting a target equity level then dumping their bags to some other sucker
>35% of token distribution to dev team, marketing and "foundational reserve"
>another 28% goes to 'private sale' insider investors to dump on the plebs
>self contradictory; claims it will "support any asset", but gatekeeps by whitelisting pools (ignoring the fact that it literally can't 'support any asset' if it's not cross chain enabled, WHICH IT WON'T BE until at least v1.1, sometime in 2021, who knows when because they're vaporware at the moment)
best of all, it's vapor ware - there's no product, literally just a website that copies uniswap design language and a "whitepaper" that's actually not a white paper but a shitty PowerPoint presentation.

that's all ignoring the fact that it's not layer 2, on eth so won't scale, and only has plans to implement eth and polkadot chains, which means they can steal the cross chain functionality from someone who already implemented it.

>obligatory "you tried"

On a serious note, who in reality is our strongest competition? Because I'm seriously struggling to find anything that can even make me rise an eyebrow.

>>23667253
unbeknownst to you, most of the negative things listed apply directly to XSN lmao

>>23667662
Hmm...
Which one?