/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23394815
Do you have a Bachelor's? Otherwise you'll never make it past middle management, if even there.

>>23394815
corporate ladder
does not exist
that's a boomer meme

It depends if you’re Jewish or not in some companies

It's possible
But you're just setting yourself up for piles and piles of bullshit that just isn't worth the money

There is no upward mobility in corporations.

If you are an engineer, you will always be in the engineering group.

Most corporate leaders start out as corporate leaders. There is no upward mobility into this group, you pretty much have to be in "circles" to be here in the first place. Just look at any "corporate leader's" career, and you'll notice they always start out in an executive or C-level position.

>>23394815
Depends on the company.

No. A pajeet or woman will always be hired over you, usually as your boss and know nothing due to degree or sucking dick
Or boomer manager will never quit even if you were qualified for his job

>>23394815
If you're an anxious sperg who can't deal with people you're never getting a management position, every job is a dead end job.

People with actual skills don't move to the top. At best they become senior engineers or whatever.

The people who go to the top are the ones who are the best at jerking each other off.

btw keep in mind women are the victims of being willing to suck dick to get ahead not the man who couldnt resist them and got blackmailed into giving a position.

>>23395135
so kneepads is the /biz/nessman way

>>23395135
People at the top are those with people skills. If you have no people skills you don't go up the ladder.

>>23394815
of course you can. and you don't even need to "create solutions". you just need to be very good at your job and confident. firm handshake never hurt either :^)

>>23395205
>people skills
>trashing people you work with to appear better

>>23395228
Literally what it is anon

>>23395069
>>23395160
>>23395225
hello incel

>>23394815
>>23394854
posts like this wake me up to just how retarded this board is. bunch of zoomer fags with no money, who've never even had a real job trying to tell each other what the world is like and how to make it. thanks for the reminder guys.

>>23395252
Just kill yourself already boomer

>>23394815
Sell your soul.
Lie your ass off.
Betray everybody.
Suck dick like there is no tomorrow.
Master copy pasting someone's work and pasting your own name.
Never say you don't have experience. Just give a training in SQL even if you don't know what it stands for. Nobody cares.
Laugh at the jokes of the person who ranks above you.
Chat with everybody who ranks above you. Schedule coffee chats with them, have lunches with them, get as much dick sucking in.
Always ask questions at the end of events/ big meetings when the boss is there.
Have someone else ready to be blamed for your mistakes.
Be a shitskin.
Be a woman.
Learn all company buzzwords.
Oversell everything.

>>23395228
Yes, making yourself appear better to your superiors and being well liked by them is what matters. There are more management levels than there are executive ones. If you're a sperg you're gonna get stuck in an executive position forever after 1-2 promotions.

>>23395250
Im not an incel but apparently youre a cunt woman

>>23395294
top tier advice, gmi

>>23394815
The Peter principal says you'll find your own level of incompetence.

>>23394815
Yes in a free market. No in regulated cronyism.

>>23395325
not for me sir. I just got drained out at the bottom doing grunt until i realized gambling is unironically better than working

>>23395276
keep coping zoomer. we boomers will continue to make more money than you, and have better sex than you.

>>23395135
Most of the top tech companies were founded by and have engineers as CEOs genius.

>>23395442

You don't become the founder of a company by moving your way up a ladder

>>23394815
i work "in corporate", corporate accounting at a large medical manufacturer. upper echelon of management is ivy league pedigree or former banking (goldman sachs m&a and such), or sociopathic boomers who started in entry level sales/marketing 20-25 years ago then very quickly pivoted to management and climbed the ladder very rapidly. there's no exceptions in my experience.

if you're asking about moving up to middle management, that's a different story but still predicated on years of experience and luck. i can't even dream of becoming an accounting manager for another 3-4 years, even if i job hop.

It's a carrot used to string along wagies, very few will actually make it past middle management which is pretty much a small increase in pay for a large increase in responsibility and stress.

>>23395712
I never claimed that. I’m saying that director or CEO of tech companies generally have skills. However I will agree with you guys that a good amount of people in upper management just smooth talked their way in. It’s pretty atrocious.

I feel like the people “working from home” right now who are just kicking their feet up playing vidya and posting cartoon frogs on /biz/ would be perfect for upper management

>>23396304
Imagine having to manage women.
Nope.

>>23394815
It used to be common. Every decade since the 40's has made it significantly harder.

Minimum wage laws force you to pay for your own training (college) when you used to get hired on the spot and do menial shit and learn on the job.

Excessive taxes, regulation, worker protections, unions, and litigation make it extremely expensive and risky to compete with the big dogs, either within the corporation or in terms of creating tour own business.

Overpopulation and globalization has led to an endless hirer's market. Employees have no leverage to negotiate raises when there is an endless line of other candidates ready to replace them. In addition, the bloated workforce in and of itself is problematic. Look into Price's Law.

The modern job market is an endless game of employee hot potato. Qualified employees constantly jump from employer to employer as most companies would rather hire a replacement than meet the 2% raise their loyal employees gets by leaving. On the other hand, employers are constantly hiring underqualified diversity candidates due to political pressure and bad market research, and constantly let them go due to underperformance and high litigation risk.

The only way to make it in today's world is to make a great bet on a good penny stock, or start a business catering to a very, very, very niche market monopolized via a patent or trademark.