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they'll leak your email too

>>23380084
Why when I try to swap tokens or try to move tokens from hardware to metmask account it doesn't let me approve on the ledger? It works once every 20 times. I have to exit out of Chrome and when I go back into Chrome it says it didn't work and that there was probably a problem with the sign up stage or something.

>>23380084
>DOESNT WORK ON ANYTHING BUT WIN 10
Post proof; it works on Windows 10, never had an issue with

That said, I like Trezor more, but retarded claims are retarded

>>23380084
>WHY DIDNT I JUST GET A TREZOR
because you are clueless

>>23380164
>using chrome
Haven't had this issue with Firefox, possibly try Firefox or Brave, different USB cable, change the allow to deny then back to allow for the setting on the actual device that makes it work with Metamask (Allow contract data may be the wording)

>>23380084
I have used a ledger for a year or so now and have had no issues that I wasn’t able to solve within 5 minutes. Are people on /biz really this retarded. You probably wouldn’t be able to use a trezor correctly either.

>>23380164
Don’t buy shit coins anyways. Problem solved

>>23380099
Where do they even get your email? Never had to enter one to use it

Still if you are buying a device and do not have one, buy a Trezor unless you need XLM/XRP and a few others that the cheap Trezor doesn't support; or just stop being poor and buy the $160~ Trezor which is infinitely better than any other option

I use mine on Linux just fine

>>23380203
>retarded
Many such cases

Same brainlets saying "car doesnt work"
>it ran out of gas

>>23380211
search up ledger email hack
1 million email addresses got leaked, meaning the pajeets can now spam you with shitcoin ads.

ledger also doesn't have the best track record security wise, someone figured out how to trick people into thinking they were sending 1 LTC when they were sending 1 BTC in reality.

wtf? literally selling my ledger and buying a trezor right now

literally never had a problem with anything

>>23380246
Anon I am not doubting the email fiasco and I do agree open source is much better (Trezor) than closed source (Ledger)

I am genuinely asking where are these people inputting their email information, I have yet to see any prompt to request this information? It definitely is not in the initial setup steps, those are as simple as PIN/Seed/Genuine check/Password for Ledger live program. No part of that requires or even asks for an email

>>23380362
Well, buying a ledger through the official website requires you to register I think

>>23380084
never had an issue with mine desu

Just use a ColdCard

>>23380420
ok bitcoin maxipad

>>23380425
self custody of altcoins is retarded. it's like storing your used underwear in a bank vault

>>23380384
Makes sense, I would recommend buying from Amazon then, you would want to confirm it is sold by 'Ledger official' and not try to save a few dollars ending up buying from non genuine seller

Again, I really would encourage Trezor over Ledger but it's worth knowing these negative claims are mostly baseless, aside from closed source vs open source, that should be simple enough for everyone to know which is better based on that alone

>>23380479
>still thinks eth is a shitcoin

cringe

>>23380084
>Not keeping all your crypto on metamask
ngmi

>>23380552
lmao based 12 word seed phrase keylogger wallet

stop it anons you are scaring me about my ledger I bought it when I started getting into crypto because it seemed like the responsible thing to do...Ive never had issues with it but im scared now I havent used it in 6 months

>>23380570
Did you register on their website with your personal information?
I would be a bit more concerned if you have done that, otherwise not much to worry about. If you did add your personal information, possibly consider buying a Trezor and send half of assets to that just to be safer than sorry

>>23380548
would you store batteries in a bank vault?

>>23380084
I'm literally using a Ledger with Linux. Zero issues

>>23380084
Anon i bought a trezor months ago and just yesterday got my ledger nano s. Ledger is a bit weird with tx's on metamask, but the functionality is infinitely better and i feel much safer using it.
If you use metamask at all, youll know that ledger very clearly shows you WHAT address youre interacting with and what you are sending(100 usdc, etc). On trezor, all you get is a meaningless blob saying "send message to 0x90182391301928391273891hsiudhjwiajd yes or no?"

>>23380598
do you even know what ethereum is retard?

>>23380647
do you store your gasoline in a bank vault?

>>23380673
if it was worth $378 a gallon, yes asshole

>>23380587
>Did you register on their website with your personal information?
yes but would they be able to hack a hard wallet with just my email

>>23380725
no lol, the whole idea of a hardwallet is about needing your physical wallet to access your funds

>>23380709
and you're confident that it would hold that value?

Both are shit.
Just store your private keys in a cryptographed pendrive. Or write them down and store the paper in a safe.

>>23380813
I'll introduce you to a word: convenience

>>23380725
Will not be able to hack based on that information
>>23380762
Is correct

The only concern with personal information is that they have supposedly (I do not have a source) have leaked this information in the past or someone has compromised Ledger's database and pulled this information
This would mean someone would know who has and who does not have Ledgers (IE potentially lots of crypto assets), no different than if someone knows that you have a few nice watches or other physical assets that they can prey upon/take

To my best understanding, funds are safe on Ledger and Trezor

>>23380179
does it work on win7?

>>23381079
I haven't tried that, based on their download page it only looks like Windows 8+ are supported

https://www.ledger.com/ledger-live/download
>Ledger Nano X
>Windows 8+, macOS 10.10+, Linux. 64-bits desktop computers excluding ARM processors.
Use a USB cable to connect your device.

>Ledger Nano S
>Windows 8+, macOS 10.10+, Linux. 64-bits desktop computers excluding ARM processors.
Use a USB cable to connect your device.

>>23381079
>>23381199
it works on win7

>>23381316
Good to hear, thanks anon

Can i use aave on mobile with ledger?

OP here
Update: 5 hours with this flashing logo and a "Please wait for your update to finish" in their app

Just placed an order for a trezor one
Hope ledger gets fucking hacked by some pajeet and takes all your fucking moneys

>>23381536
fkforgot pic

>>23381551
Lmao sorry to hear but it sounds like you should try resetting via Ledger live software if you cannot access the device's settings/security/reset all

Ultimately Trezor will do you well, but it has the same firmware situation as Ledger in the sense that you can mess it up or it can glitch for any reason and you will need to figure out how to troubleshoot it

If your device is not acting up due to water damage and you somehow cannot access via Ledger live reset or device reset, it would probably be best to get a hold of Ledger support or even check this boomershooting out/setup Ledger in the software as an uninitialized device/brand new device

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QLJSI4VZo

>>23380164
Flush dns on cmd prompt

>>23380203
>Are people on /biz really this retarded
Yes, just read the retards in this thread.

>>23380084
Give it to me straight ripplebros, do I have to buy one of these to get muh flare?

>>23380211
I bought a ledger not that long ago after comparing the two for a long time. I chose ledger because it generally has more support, and trezor has a physical vulnerability

>>23380084
kek and investing in xBTC would be even better than that. at least then you'd be able to hedge other options

>>23382353
I believe you are citing that electrical shorting vulnerability?
If you use a passphrase that negates the potential. Equally think about your common criminal/thief, if they even know what a Ledger or Trezor are, the pin is likely enough for them to 'grug hit with rock' and give up

Everything in life is a compromise and there is always balance. Convenience or security you pick where on the spectrum you feel comfortable and make decisions based on this.

You want most secure failproof? It will not be convenient.
You want convenience? It will not be the most secure option.

Cold paper wallets are the most secure if you have a location that it is hidden and safe from weather/moisture/etc

You could equally create a wallet via Trezor, then wipe the device while recording the seed phrase, stash the seed phrase in a location safe from moisture/fire/theft and have the BTC/ETH/XRP/etc addresses saved somewhere that you can SEND to them without risking connecting that wallet to the internet


Source for the Trezor vulnerability
https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/54631/kraken-security-labs-hackers-can-exploit-trezor-hardware-wallets-with-only-15-minutes-of-physical-access-to-the-device

>>23382618
Also worth noting that just because nobody has posted a physical vulnerability with Ledger yet, does not mean it is without one, just has not been found yet

No electronic is perfect and in fact nothing made by man is perfect

>>23381536
>Hope ledger gets fucking hacked by some pajeet and takes all your fucking moneys
before or after you manage to access your ledger and send them to your new trezor?
Its clear that you struggle with day to day tasks when they involve technology. You should just stick with gayming

>>23380084
Just get a dedicated ssd. You can put a bootable linux os on it and lock down as many encrypted folders for as many things as you like. You can do anything with an ssd that you can do with a hardware wallet. You can hide your data in a massive porn folder for plausible deniability. You can steghide your keys in dahnald memes.

Its superior in every way

>>23380084
>MUH 100 DOLLAR USB BECAUSE IM TOO MUCH OF A FUCKING IDIOT TO NOT COPY AND PASTE MY KEYS INTO A PUBLIC PASTEBIN I NEED A SECURE USB THAT I CAN SHOVE UP MY ASS FOR SECURE STORAGE

>>23380318
>selling a used ledger

>>23383079
well how do you expect me to shove a pastebin up my ass?

>>23383269
actually kekked thank you anon

>>23382980
>You can do anything with an ssd that you can do with a hardware wallet
no you can't
your private keys are exposed when you sign transactions

i swear almost nobody on this board understands anything about crypto.

>>23380084
>WHY DIDNT I JUST GET A TREZOR

that's why you FAGGOTTTTT:
https://blog.trezor.io/fixing-physical-memory-access-issue-in-trezor-2b9b46bb4522

>>23383214
isn't that a poem by Hemingway?

>>23383079
ngmi

>>23383269
wait so you shove the ledger up your ass though? no wonder you're so butthurt about it

i haves no problem

>>23380099
And home address.
Get ready to be tortured by a gang for your keys op hahaha