/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23340618

2023 agrees with the document:

https://www.clevelandfed.org/~/media/content/newsroom%20and%20events/speeches/sp%2020200923%20pdf.pdf

"Our goal is to bring FedNow to market as soon as practicably possible. The target release date remains 2023 or 2024, but we will announce a more specific time frame once additional work is completed."

>>23340618
>>23340651

How likely is it for a run on physical to where theres none left? Im thinking about getting some gold now because I only have silver just in case

>>23340782
>how likely
It's a matter of when, not if

>>23340782
this has already essentially happened this year anon

>>23340718
Continuing the discussion of Britannia colour.

Whelp boys its been real but no more stack posts from me these threads have been glowing too hard lately - I'll still lurk and add discussion.
Very concerned about the dystopian hellhole we are headed into (if not already there), pic related is from https://www.clevelandfed.org/en/newsroom-and-events/speeches/sp-20200214-modernizing-our-payments-system.aspx

>>23340853

"Central bank digital currency could offer a more practical way to implement negative interest rates." Also agrees with >>23340618 and >>23340812.

>>23340812
>>23340853
this is fucked

I don't think our shiny rocks are gonna get us outta this one pmgbros

wat do

>>23340936

First i've seen that mentions pms. Imagine being capable of the mental gymnastics necessary to compare the gold standard to a global fed coin

>>23340936
Every time there is a concerted effort to fud in the pmg I make another order.

>>23340985
Good job bro.

>>23340579
Your daily reminder not to trust Hitlerites and Greenbackers.

https://www.garynorth.com/public/department141.cfm

Whether you have a central bank print paper money, or have the government do it directly, MMT and communism are just as evil.

For weeks now, every thread has had infiltrators from /pol/ virtue-signalling about Jews in every post, triple-bracketing every other word, promoting communist, neo-Nazi, Greenbacker rubbish like A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind. Expect those whom you attack to fight you back.

>>23340985
If 99.9% of the population are FedCoin slaves, what good will owning gold and silver do us? Are we going to break off from society and build our own?

>>23341001
not now bait pasta anon
there's HAPPENING going on

>>23341001
You are the one anon from last week that severely ass pained by a couple anons who posted their nazi silver coins and threatened to buy some yourself just to melt them down arent you?

I think you are.

Daily reminder that I like to derail threads with dumb politics with a pointless copypasta that shadowboxes with an enemy that never really existed before I mentioned it. I actually don't care about any of you, I want to ruin /pmg/ forever, and I don't own a single ounce of metal.

See you next thread.

>>23341054
>>23341020
stop giving him (you)s for fuck sake. its not hard to not reply

>>23341080
basda

>>23341007

China, Russia, Iran, and other countries which we are taught to view as the ultimate evil are now our only salvation. They have their faults, but we need them to dump the dollar for the world to be free. If America controls the entire world, then, yes, it can ban gold and silver, impose FedCoin, and make everybody into a literal slave. (Which is what you are when the government can inflate away the purchasing power of your store of labour at will; see Hitler, Stalin etc.) But if the world dumps the dollar, then FedCoin will collapse.

>>23341080
Also I am gay

>>23340579
Whoever bid that 100 peseta on eBay up to $10 I hope you and your entire family gets raped by niggers

>>23340782
Look at the premiums yoy and ask yourself if you are retarded

>>23341007
Why do you think any digital Fedbucks will be more infallible than the already failing fiat currencies? Fedbucks will just lose confidence even quicker than paper money because they can be created even more recklessly. The endgame after Fedbucks fail is a digital bimetallic standard, digital central bank currencies backed by grams or micro-grams of gold and silver. I thought it was obvious to everyone that this was the endgame.

>>23341237
>Why do you think any digital Fedbucks will be more infallible than the already failing fiat currencies?

idk, I'm extremely demoralized and feel like the j*ws have unlimited power at this point, not gonna lie

>>23341266
just dont hold paper & imaginary digits. Own things.

>>23341266
checked

>>23341266
>j*ws have unlimited power
They are the only one playing the game.

Don’t tell me fednow is actually happening. It’s a meme right guys.....?

>>23341089
this should be the real "Daily reminder"

>>23341429
https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/fednow_about.htm

>>23340611

>>23341486
when I make it I will marry this Mongoloid beauty and make lots of retarded babies..

>>23341510
This is the same woman as>>23340611

So is this video legit?

Is the actual happening happening on monday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXKIaRKdy4Q&feature=emb_title

>>23341441
god help you guys to the south. holy crap thats bad.

>>23341001
You're right and I love when you post this.

Keep it up Austrian bro.

>FEDNOW Happening
>FEDCoin Immenent
>IMF calling for new Bretton Woods
No wonder why there has been such a coordinated effort to derail these threads lately.

>>23341547
k

>>23341596
I don't think it's co-ordinated.
The SLV shill probably was, but he's not the one posting pro-austrian stuff.

>>23341578
Yes

>>23341626
Do I have another week or so? I'm getting $10k thursday and I want to invest in miners.

>>23340579
how valuable will our merc dimes be and when?

>>23341639
Hedge now before speculation hits, then buy later if there is no fallout. https://www.americanbanker.com/articles/banks-brace-for-big-bang-switch-on-80-trillion-worth-of-swaps

>>23341644
I can’t even tell if she’s the formerly well to do housewife or the questionably underage daughter

>>23341592
I'm thankfully not from America, I'm the Finnish dude. I'll be watching in terror & awe, and waiting in fear for the EU to inevitably adopt a similar "service"

>>23341613
The SLV shill used a "Daily reminder" copypasta spam like this dude is doing recently.

Chances are high that this is the same person with the same goal of derailing threads.

>>23341644
If we extract the time we went into the Bretton wood system with how much money 1 oz of silver would buy. You would be able to make a downpayment on a house for half of what it could be in the suburbs for 1 merc. Also, I have no idea since the loan reset was not even on my radar, and it has huge financial ramification.

So FedCoin was more than just a meme...

>360 ounces silver
>40 ounces sterling in flatware
>2.5 ounces gold
>2500 AUNFF at 55 cents
>1250 MUX at $1.40

Am I going to make it?

>>23341699
>"Daily reminder" copypasta spam
So? Lots of people do that?
People post the same shit every thread to try to influence people, it's kind of how forums work.

>Chances are high that this is the same person with the same goal of derailing threads.
But I support his message and we should be getting people to support the austrian school above all.

>>23341651
I just need a week.... aaaaahhhhhhh

>>23341723
No....You need more silver anon.... You are overreached in stocks

>>23341723
>>2500 AUNFF at 55 cents
>>1250 MUX at $1.40
Literally the same stocks I'm invested in and solely due to /pmg/'s advice. I hope I'm not making a big mistake...
Fuck it bro, we're all going to make it!

>>23341732
YOU HAD YEARS ANON...WHY DID YOU NOT BUY?

>>23341547
yikes

>>23341732
The only people that did "daily reminder" spams to this extent in /pmg/ were SLV shill and this spammer. Don't care if you agree with the spam; stop supporting derailing spammers from any side.

If you support thread destroying spammers then you are an accomplice.

>>23341751
I've been listening to Peter Schiff since fucking 2009 and I've always been a poorfag never having any real disposable income to invest in PMs. This has changed recently though.

>>23341781
>The only people that did "daily reminder" spams to this extent in /pmg/ were SLV shill and this spammer.
daily reminder to simply ignore them

>>23341735
I have 7800 in mining stocks, but I have 6oz in gold and 200oz in silver. I only started working 2 years ago so this was all I could save up.

>>23341798
The point of contempt right now is you being a cheerleader for spammers.

Will people start shilling Fedcoin and FedNow here?
How many Youtube videos and News Reports will we see in the months leading up to FedCoin's implementation promoting the idea of negative interest rates?

>>23341825
What's there to shill if it's going to be mandatory?

>>23341782
It is all about small gains over time anon...
>>23341809
You should have focused more on silver anon.

>>23341816
I don't think it's spam, but okay.

Daily Reminder to ignore all Daily Reminders and other forms of derailment bait.

>>23341781
>>23341699
>>23341816

"Spam" isn't making one post per thread. The "spam" comes from the Nazis who pile in to whine about it. The SLV shill was both a Nazi himself and would post about 100 times per thread. Yu2CLCTZ only posts his daily reminder once per thread. If there were no Nazis here to object to his post, it would pass by completely unnoticed, and eventually disappear.

>>23341835
I generally see shilling for silver over gold and even over mining stocks. Why?

>>23341834
You need to get people on board with the idea so the adoption goes more smoothly. If people are led to believe it's the "smart" thing to do they'll do it without question.

>>23341842
>Lazy name throwing copypasta with large baits
>1 post by this ID every time

It's the definition of bait spamming, and you're its cheerleader. You're the exact opposite of simply ignoring spams and you couldn't do any worse honestly.

>>23341885
Mining stocks can fluxuate, and lag behind gold and silver. You can pick up more in the future under fednow. However, gold and silver can not be under fednow.

>>23341885
Silver is undervalued. Although I wouldn't tell anybody not to focus on gold, it's much less volatile and goes consistently up

>>23341217
melt on that thing is $11ish isn't it?

Does anyone have a transparent background asahi round or cares enough to change the guns to silver and replace the symbol in the middle of the flag to an asahi round?

>>23341878
Alright I'll stop replying or mention that copypasta. Hopefully it will disappear?

>>23341217
It's half an ounce of silver. $10 for it is well below spot.

>>23340812
if the coin expires, what do the do to prevent a hot-potato effect? Seems like a time-limited currency would have parabolic velocity as you approach the deadline.

>>23341896

It's only bait if you're a Nazi, a Jew-hater, or anti-gold standard. I don't know why it frightens you so much. You have ten posts in this thread, and every single one of them is a complaint about this one post. The defining attribute of the SLV shill was flooding the threads with posts.

>>23341694
Canada's only a few years away from this as well. I would not be surprised if it was announced in a few months in fact.

>>23340930
actually makes me feel like i'm going to throw up

the final castration and gutting of every common man

>>23341769
it was a terrible pose
not particularly flattering
and not interesting or alluring at all

>>23341885
Silver is cheaper, has more upside and is easier to get into. That's basically the only reason why it's popular with younger people.

>>23341965
You, your copypasta friend and Nazis all belong in /pol/. My primary complaint was that copypasta making /pmg/ to /pol/ which ironically is what that copypasta is warning about. I'm just confused.

>>23341924
Or just ignore it...?

>>23342077
So you're saying that I have to see that copyspam every /pmg/ for years to come?

>>23342039

The BLLG poster makes one post in each thread, which is seen as unobjectionable and peacefully ignored. This person is doing nothing different, only he doesn't get ignored, because his words threaten the ideology of those who find it impossible to ignore him.

>>23342111
Do you know how to use the 4chan filter system? It's pretty easy.

just realized that the race riots in america are probably a cover for this shit

>>23342122
>which is seen as unobjectionable and peacefully ignored
It's off topics politics that belong in /pol/, and it's claiming that this general is being "infiltrated" with no proof. It's objectionable and the copypasta is seldom ignored.

Your opinions ITT shows that you too have a clear political conviction in this thread and it belongs in /pol/

>>23341007
>everyone gets digibuxx
>"yayyyy we are all equal now" say the retarded sheep
>very quickly it becomes apparent that there are still "more equal" animals
>at some point enough people will be impoverished/dissapeared that even idiot normies clue in, so even if they wont/cant do anything to stop it, they now desire someone who can
>people who have been restraining themselves out of the goodness of their hearts have carte blanche to rip apart the new order

Can someone who uses the 4chan IRC complain to them about the level shills on this single general?

>>23342229
its all one big psyop

>covid
>the shut down of the world economy
>the shut down of america
>the total and absolute destruction of the american economy
>the destruction of american businesses
>the race war

>>23342297
>dude the the mods to ban opinions I don't like lmao

>>23341965
Why is there so much crying about Nazis. Go to any other fucking website on the planet and you won’t have to deal with 1 post per thread where someone posts a book.

>>23342122
>>23342234
Reread your comment and I made the mistake of thinking the "BLGG poster" meant the person ITT.

Besides that none of my comment changes

>>23341592
I expect canada will follow suit, if not lead it, as soon as IMF coin/world currency is a thing it will be adopted here.

>>23341909
Yeah but I’m a stacklet so I want to get things for cheap

>>23340812
Even if gold and silver bullion was banned for purchase with FedCoin, there are alternative stores of value, like cigarettes, whiskey, luxury soup, Air Jordans, whatever people want that doesn't perish you can buy it and barter it. Also jewelry and watches made out of precious metals and stones, unless you ban that too.

The government can make it harder to save, but I don't see how they can even come close to making it impossible.

>>23341965

>>23342309
The end of November will be the results of the game

How do you guys feel about fractional silver?

>>23342147
The person is making the "Daily reminder" alert that is making a massive claim that /pmg/ is being infiltrated by external forces with malicious intent and you're just going to ignore it? Let it slide? Even if it provides zero evidence?

This actually goes beyond /pol/itical discussion; this is /meta/ material.

keep in mind, this will be a temporary thing, any sort of fed coin or world IMF coin will fail, and it will fail spectacularly. Much like the lead coins get spent, while the silver coins get hoarded, thebad money will flow while people hoard the good.

Even if the extremes happen, like outlawing of PM's, no selling/buying allowed (more likely they will let you sell it to central banks but not buy) its only a matter of making it through to the other side.

Fed/world coin is the reset, not the solution, once debt and the chaff has been removed with this, its time for PM's to come into play. Likely with CB's and the big players having used the chaos to ensure they have most of the PM's meaning they get to keep everything they had before, and everything they bought for peanuts during the crisis.

>>23342474
>massive claim that /pmg/ is being infiltrated by external forces with malicious intent
No he's not lmao. He's calling out the national socialist /pol/tards that come into these threads and spam their economically illiterate pro-central banker nonsense.
Are you saying this isn't happening? Just check out the threads from the past few weeks.
It's not a coordinated effort, it's just individual retards with bad opinions.
Not everything is a conspiracy, holy shit.

>>23342474
>>23342234

You can look at most /pmg/ threads from the first half of this year without coming across a single triple bracket or reference to a Jew. At best you will find one or two. Threads over the past couple of months have been completely inundated with them. The Nazi invasion started after the SLV shill came here, who was a Nazi himself, a fact which is easy to prove from the archives. "Schlomo" and triple brackets in almost every other post.

>>23342473
It's fine if you can get it at the same premiums as the full size stuff.

>>23342474
>Let it slide? Even if it provides zero evidence?
Yes. It's not like people here don't make massive claims all the time anyways

>>23342417
My other thought was to buy something with fed-coin and immediately trade it off for silver at a pawn shop. Which item could be used as a go between without getting raped too bad by the middle man?

>"Muh holocaust"
>"muh anti-semitism"
>"muh racism and oppression"

> - brought to you by proud supporters of the '''criminal nigger scum lives matter movement''''

>>23342529
I was in almost every /pmg/ thread for a while and all "triple bracket" posting was in negtive reference to banks and financial institutions. Didn't see a single poltard or Nazi actually defend central banks, especially when their central belief is that central banking is run by an ethnicity they hate.

Not sure where you got that bullshit from.

>>23342473
In my opinion the only good fractional silver in junk silver, everything else has an insanely high premium

>>23342602
>>23342544

...Although SLV poster was an anomaly. Not sure who the fuck that guy was and people across the political spectrum all wanted him gone from the general.

>>23342602
>>23342474
>>23342234
Stop replying to these people. It’s clear they’re not arguing with you in good faith and only have malicious intent. They’re using Pilpul and Bilbul to shit up the thread and get you angry, I’ve fallen for it too.

>>23342602
>I was in almost every /pmg/ thread for a while and all "triple bracket" posting was in negtive reference to banks and financial institutions.
It's not just that, people were saying hitler was the good guy and would free us from this monetary slavery, which is fucking stupid because he was a central bank supporter himself.
>Didn't see a single poltard or Nazi actually defend central banks
Are you knew here or something?
>especially when their central belief is that central banking is run by an ethnicity they hate.
They don't believe that. They want their own central banks run by whites, it's essentially the same thing.

>>23342474
>>23342544
>>23342234

More of the SLV shill from the archives.

"((( )))"
"Shlomo"
"Jewish money changers"

>>23342474
>>23342544 (You)
>>23342234

More of the SLV shill from the archives.

"(((anti SLV shill)))"
"Shlomo"
"Jewish money changers"

only paid jidf/blm shills would bother s;enidng time and effort doing this.
and its obviously a newfag that doesn't belong here / isn't from here

>>23342687
>They want their own central banks run by whites
Don't remember anyone saying something like that in my memory of /pmg/ threads this year.

>>23342692
SLV shill was an anomaly that came out of nowhere and was universally hated by everyone

>>23342687
The "Nazis" and "/pol/tards" all invaded at this general at the same time a few weeks after the SLV shill was banned. The "anti-nazis" showed up en masse a few days later. The timing of all this leads me to believe that they are all artificial and exist purely to turn the thread into endless squabbling instead of Precious Metals discussion, which it appears they've succeeded in doing.

>>23342714
>>23342544
>>23342474
>>23342234

"You gave the other 32% to Shlomo as his commission"

"No one who bought physical silver has made even a penny. You got shlomoed by fomo."

>>23342714
To me it felt like this guy was just using Nazi rhetoric to fit in, like say "I am just like you."

Especially when those antisemitic rhetoric didn't really fit the context and make any sense.

>>23342596
I suspect they might introduce a special windfall tax to be paid on the SALE or barter specifically of precious metals, to ensure that they can’t regain a monetary function.

They will probably avoid doing this to various other assets that appear less threatening though, and concentrate their attention on ensuring that no universal currency emerges.

So I expect you will get away with bartering and selling other items, but I wouldn’t be surprised if future governments absolutely pounce on under the table PM deals of any significance.

We have to face the real likelihood of the general public viewing stackers with intense hostility as wreckers trying to profit from or even induce the failure of the economic system and with it their currency. And let’s face it, that’s self-evidently what we are doing.

If PMs actually do soar the way goldbugs hope, there will be a lot of people who don’t have much or any who will very much want the government to screw you/us and prevent us from profiting.

>>23340618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUXHB5U-Vl4

>>23342728
seems like every bank will end up doing this eventually whether they are jew, german protestants, irish catholic

>>23342764
>Don't remember anyone saying something like that in my memory of /pmg/ threads this year
lmao what? It's literally what national socialists believe and support and it's what those people have said they wanted. Hitler was a keynesian.
Have you ever talked to one of these people in /nsg/ on /pol/? They support a strong central bank which loans out money interest free to fund government projects and war.

>>23340960
"Stablecoin" a new term they just created because they're fucking retarded

Got 10 of these for spot today. Pretty damn pleased.

>>23342781
Fuck man what you're saying is right. They did come in waves. I remember a few weeks ago /pmg/ had a massive unnatural Nazi spam and now /pmg/ is suddenly populated by several Antifas. Where did they all come from??

I really should stop fighting. I am part of the problem.

QRD on FedCoin?

It won't be able to stop the death of the dollar and the explosion of national debt. All it will do is allow them to track transactions, censor BadGuys, and implement NIRP, but shit will still collapse nonetheless.

>>23342848
>Antifas
Fuck antifa. We're Austrian Libertarians.

>Where did they all come from??
We were always here. Do you really think the goldbug thread wouldn't be populated by Libertarians and Ron Paul types?

>>23342794
its common for any thread to get some innocent (nonserious) shitposting of German ww2 era references. it can get confusing. it started early this year with posting pics of reichmarks coins and paper, completely innocent and merely interesting historical coins

the actual serious jidf/blm shills try to take advantage of it to incite /pol/ wars

>>23342866
>that pic
Respect is earned, giving a child everything they want will make them hate you. He was unable to learn his and now is begging for pity. What a fucking faggot.

>>23342866
Those texts actually made me like Joe better than his son

>>23342835
wrong, not a bank run by the people, held accountable by gold and silver.

>>23342872
>>23342848

You are intellectually dishonest to use words like "BLM" and "Antifa." Austrians are the direct opposite of those things.

theres one jidf/blm shill faggot positn form multiple IPs trying to make it look like theres a base of beleievrs in this spamming lies about "muh evil nazi" boogeyman.

just fake strawmen claims of "systemic nazi fascism" that doesnt exist here and never did.

it is paid blm movement shills

>>23342908
Ignore the and filter the bait and shills. Don't let them derail the thread into political debate.

there is no such thing as nazi fascism here and never was. just like there was no systemic racism in america

just socialist jidf/blm shills pushing a dialogue for their socialist agenda

>>23342936
What if I hate both BLM/antifa and fascist larpers?

Quit this shit boys, it's /pmg/ not /pol/

First purchase @ $548, still waiting on a 10oz silver bar @277. Going to save up for more, but what is worth the investment this late in the year? Also, anyone know any lithium mining stocks to look into?

>>23342936

Pretty obvious to me where the false-flagging is coming from and what the motive would be.

"The media is gearing up to make gold holders into "evil neo-Nazis," it's coming."

>>23342544
You don't understand. We dont think that faggot actually loved slv. He is a troll and trying to derail pmg. It's the same guy. Also fuck kikes

>>23342979
Why haven’t you made one post about precious metals this entire thread?

>>23343008
But I did...?

>>23343005
Peter Schiff and Ludwig von Mises are/were jews.
Why do you hate them?

>>23342848
Some of /pol/ came here back in late July because of a few pm threads created there during silver run-up. Pol didn't "infiltrate" pmg, they've always hated the fed and bankers. Aren't you forgetting Ron Paul was and still is a mainstay there?

Why does nobody ever buy half ounce Gold coins?
I've only ever seen people posting about buying ounces, quarters and tenths, but never halves.

>>23343043
Premiums are much higher per oz

>>23343041
>Pol didn't "infiltrate" pmg, they've always hated the fed and bankers
So? They still support central banking. Their ideal system is extremely similar to our current system except it's run by whites.
Hitler was like FDR.
>Ron Paul was and still is a mainstay there?
The national socialists there hate ron paul and libertarianism.

>>23343019
>20 posts by this ID
>only 2 of them talk about miner stocks, the rest are sperg outs
You need to actually kill yourself

>>23342871
>We were always here.
I'm sorry but you'll have to let me cringe a bit because that phrase is what raiders always say when there is a raid. I experienced multiple leftist raids in /k/ and /biz/ throughout the years and they always say that line as if they have a script or something.

Could it be that this time raiders are trying to get /pmg/ away from the far right and into something more tameable?

>>23343043
Sorry I didn't read your whole post obviously. Maybe because the premiums are through the roof and most people who buy the fractional goldmare buying fractional junk gold like 20 corona, where the premiums are still higher than a full ounce, but somewhat tolerable

>>23343043
quarters and dimes are cute because they're smol
wholes are satisfying to hold
halves aren't really cute or satisfying. They just sorta suck.

Some bad news from Nome friends, a boat working with Vernon Adkinson from "Bering Sea Gold" went down in heavy seas off shore from Nome. Its unknown how many of the crew made it to shore. I will never in my life understand why people get on these shitty little boats to try and mine in that kind of weather. Its not worth it. May God have mercy on their souls.

>>23343069
Whose system?

>>23343080
it's not a raid. Plenty of leftists use 4chan, and lots of us laugh at you morons thinking you own the place. As long as you stay on topic you'll never know you're talking to a leftist, but you idiots can't even do that right.

>>23343076
>>only 2 of them talk about miner stocks, the rest are sperg outs
Because people are saying dumb shit I want to respond to.
Take your meds lmao not everyone is a shill.
The other anon arguing with me is posting almost exclusively non-PM related posts as well.

>>23343041
>totally organic surge of "/pol/tards" in /pmg/ a week after the SLV shill was banned
>none of them post anything about PMs
>Nothing about Ron Paul
>Only constant Nazi spam

>>23343041

>>Pol didn't "infiltrate" pmg, they've always hated the fed and bankers

This is exactly what this post is talking about. >>2334100 It doesn't matter if you "hate the Fed and bankers" if you do it for the wrong reasons. Ron Paul hates the Fed because he wants gold and silver to be money, Nazis hate the Fed because they want a dictator to keep the gold standard abolished and print paper money directly, which is even worse.

>>23343080

Nazism is far left, not far right, as Kuehnelt-Leddihn shows in "Leftism: From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse." Stalin and Hitler were essentially identical insofar as their aim was to seize absolute power by abolishing the gold standard, and then stealing the labour of their subjects via inflation.

>>23343080
>I'm sorry but you'll have to let me cringe a bit because that phrase is what raiders always say when there is a raid.
Except for the fact you have schizophrenia and need to take your meds.

>OH MY GOD WHAT ARE LIBERTARIANS DOING IN THE PRECIOUS METALS THREAD, THIS IS A THING THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN

>>23343112
Nazi monetary system.
https://mises.org/library/hitlers-economics

>>23343134
> Take your meds lmao
Alright now I know for sure you’re a shill. I think you need to use pic related

>>23343088
I guess Half ounce Gold Bullion is in a sort of uncanny valley in that it's too big for the smaller buyers and too small for the larger ones.
>>23343095
That also probably has something to do with it.

Should /pmg/ migrate to anon.cafe or zzzchsn so we can have our own moderation? I feel like keeping things centralized will ruin /pmg/

>>23343144
>This is exactly what this post is talking about. >>2334100 It doesn't matter if you "hate the Fed and bankers" if you do it for the wrong reasons. Ron Paul hates the Fed because he wants gold and silver to be money, Nazis hate the Fed because they want a dictator to keep the gold standard abolished and print paper money directly, which is even worse.
Fucking this.

>>23343167
How fucking stupid are you?

>tfw when /smg/ is now more coherent then here

>>23343193
great idea, lets hide out in some corner of the internet and stay irrelevant forever.

>>23343205
If only people were smart enough to ignore and filter all the derailment attempts...

>>23343193
>our own moderation
Is it the same as infinity-chan?

>>23343135
Slv shill postings lasted much longer than late July. Overt nazi talk has only begun in Ernest ever since slv shill started posting his anti Hitler retardation in the last week.

>>23343144
>horseshoe theory
Do libertarians really?

>>23343167
wouldn't it be difficult to load and cock a pistol like that? You'd have to keep flipping it around

>>23343216
most search engines in the US block 4chan. You can't get a lot more irrelevant than here.

>>23340579
I’m just going to bake a new bread so the shills will be more obvious and we can leave this clusterfuck

>>23343216
Yeah because you know how much we draw people in when we are constantly infighting with shills
>>23343223
I believe so

>>23343227
>anti Hitler retardation
Without sperging out and calling me a jidf shill.
Tell me why you think the PM thread should support a central banking keynesian like Hitler?

>>23343165
Germany nationalized it's banks and used a labor backed currency. That is about as opposite a system as we have. How can you tie your own shoes if you are this fucking stupid

>>23343245
>>23343223
Does 8kun actually have mods that do their job?

>>23343239
Sure, just make sure that you post the video from lynnnet in the bread.

>38 posters in this thread
Jesus

>>23343261
your problem here is you think it's the mod's job to ban anyone that disagrees with you.

I'm not sure that's actually true.

182 posts and no Aurcana shilling, fixed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Gocm1u9Zk&ab_channel=121MiningInvestmentTV

>>23343249
Stacking silver is a means to an end, not an end in itself

>>23343261
I’ve heard that 8kun mods are all bitches but then again that’s coming from lynxfags so idk. I like zzzchan if it can stay online for more than a half a year

>>23343258
>Germany nationalized it's banks
Exactly, that's even worse than the current system. It's central banking on steroids.
Socialist banking is fucking stupid.
>labor backed currency
This doesn't even make any sense.
If you print money to devalue people's money, the wages and savings of laborers goes down.

>>23343266
Actually would you mind doing it I don’t have any ideas for the edition

>>23343280
Nigger we don’t want this to become a complete shithole not ban anyone’s who disagrees

>>23343291
Have the next edition be buy the silver edition

>>23343287
>that doesn't even make sense
Maybe you should educate yourself on what they actually did instead of coming into pmg shouting about a bunch of political shit nobody wants to hear and clearly you know nothing about

>>23343291
Don’t put pmg in post

Isn't it interesting how the moment major Fedcoin news hits a bunch of people here start arguing over Nazism instead.

>>23343286
> I like zzzchan
Yeah but you need registration, at that point just use tapatalk or the silver forums. If there was a place without registration but had mods that actually did their fucking job that would be ideal

>>23343295
I've been banned repeatedly for disagreeing with you over the last year or so. On topic, still reported and banned.

you guys can't tolerate differing opinions, that's why trolls have so much fun screwing with you.

>>23343319
Who would have fucking thought, shills come here and normies and newfags are too retarded to realize how obvious the bait is
>>23343322
Only mods register and its not like you put in much. Just a username and a password

>>23343308
>Maybe you should educate yourself
Maybe you should try to have an argument next time.
You people do the same thing marxists do, when backed into a corner and unable to defend your position you go "uhh read a book dude".
Our current system is failing due to central banking, how is MORE centralization and nationalization the "opposite" of the current system?
Idiocy.

>>23343333
It’s sad that quads have to be wasted on such a braindead post

>>23343258

It isn't "labour-backed" to have a dictator print paper money, it's slavery. When you abolish the gold standard, you give the government absolute power over you. All it has to do is turn on a printing-press or, in the modern era, type numbers on a keyboard, to steal everything you ever worked for to enrich itself. WW2 would never had happened if Hitler hadn't abolished gold. That was what gave him the power to spend all of Germany's production on building an enormous military as his people starved.

>>23343334
So is registration required to use the site?

>>23343347
that's another thing.

gets don't matter on a slow board, you fucking ridiculous newfags

>>23343354
Just like on 4chan only mods need to register, so for that vast majority no

>>23343357

>>23343357
Nigger I know you only come from /b/ and /pol/ but for most boards this isn’t slow. Just because you’re too shallow to use boards that have niche interests doesn’t mean nobody else is

>>23343367
Shit I might consider using it then. How active are the mods? Will they range ban shills like the ones ITT?

So, to gt this back on track, here's some recent pickups from my LCS. Wound up getting the 2 ASEs because he was out of generic, and I wasn't about to walk out with a ton of Constitutional (I'm getting bullion to even out my stack), and the Krug I got for generic price.

Shame it's a 2019, but there weren't any 2020s there. If I see one though, I'll grab it. I'm just about buying what's cheapest right now.

>>23343379
I've been on /an/ and /sci/ for longer than you've been alive. I used to lurk /new/ before /pol/ even existed

gets don't matter here. Stop being such an obvious newfag

>>23343152
>Except for the fact you have schizophrenia and need to take your meds.
...And that's what they often say alongside "we were always here."

I guess I made the right guess about this being leftist raid seeing you react like I kicked a hornet's nest;

>>23341970
Saw an article about Canadian digi currency few days ago, big time bs

>>23343216
there are 38 unique posters here anon.. rarely are we above 100... usually 4-10 of those are shills.

Only two things you need to know:
no more brother wars
buy silver and gold.

>>23343409
protip: if everyone you meet says you're crazy, perhaps they're right.

nothing wrong with that, it's fine to be crazy.

>>23343385
If the shop has 2019 ASEs or AGEs, you should choose them over other dates, for most bullion coins 2019 was a lower mintage year, so you might get back extra for them if you're planning on holding over a longer timeframe. I'm not sure about Silver Krugs, but it's true for nearly all the other coins I looked up the mintages for.

>>23343383
Pretty active since they don’t have too much to moderate. I’ll put on a request for a board rn

i love the 2020 canadian maple leaf coins, but the premium for the silver ones are 25%

>>23343117
>As long as you stay on topic you'll never know you're talking to a leftist, but you idiots can't even do that right.
see >>23341001

>>23343418
>no more brother wars
That’s actually a neo-Nazi MMT kenyesian greenbacker false flag infiltrator phrase and I’m going to have to ask you to leave

>>23343409
>leftist raid
lmao holy fuck HAHAHAHA you're actually retarded and insane
yeah right... the leftists are supporting ron paul and free markets now
I should probably stop responding to you since you're going to keep sperging out and spamming the thread.

>>23343429
Based, are you going to request a specific /pmg/ board or just /biz/?

>>23343432
>see >>23341001
How is a pro-free market, anti-socialism post a "leftist" post now?
Please take your meds.

What will loans be like in a negative interest rate environment? Will they have a negative rate too or will tht still be unavailable for plebs?

>>23343336
Yes, go read some books and don't come back

>>23343432
Remember how I said earlier to stop replying because of the Pilpul and Bilbul being used by the shills? Now they’re using Bulbul, calling us schizos and idiots

>>23343448
you're actually losing it

>yeah right... the leftists are supporting ron paul and free markets now
If they learned anything from the past few raids in /biz/ they know that nobody here takes Marx seriously. So might as well just silence the right and make it into a more tameable Libertarian.

>>23343468
>still has no argument
you got rekt by me and the other guy
you have to go back

>>23343471
yeah I'm dumb I'll stop replying now.

>>23343458
/pmg/ probably. I see doing /biz/ without many people an easy way for pajeets to shill their shitcoin to a degree we have never seen before

>>23343480

Ron Paul is explicitly anti-racialist, against anti-semitism, and pro-gold standard. There's not a single thing which the Austrians have said in this thread which he wouldn't say also.

>>23343480
>you're actually losing it
dude lol, you're gone off the deep end
You're actually saying pro-free market people are leftists now and they're coordinated shills.
Seriously take your meds, you're actually insane.
>So might as well just silence the right and make it into a more tameable Libertarian.
LOL This doesn't make any sense.
>leftypol is raiding /pmg/ with pro free market propaganda to um... uhhh.....
Where does this logic flow?

>>23343501
why would they shill on a board nobody visits?

you guys really don't understand, do you? Nobody shills in /pmg/ either, it's not worth it to shill to all 32 of you idiots.

i really wish this thread would get its shit together and not respond to this obvious bait, anyone posting to argue should take a break. i dont care what your ideology is, i dont care what your religion is, i dont give a fuck about anything you care about outside of metals and metals accessories. i just want to be comfy and post shiny rocks. stop responding to bait and shills and whatever. have a good time, nothing we say here is going to change the eventuality that the dollar will either die or be replaced. your argument is being baited for a reason, stop giving it to them.

>>23343431
25% premium? Where o you live?

>>23343491
https://youtu.be/mmR13Vz0RlM
Watch this video and read the description. It explains the tactics (Pilpul, Bilbul, and Bulbul) that shills use to disrupt free conversation. After watching the video you’ll see the EXACT tactics have been used by the two shills ITT

>>23343431
Where do you live where there's a 25% premium? That's insane
t. leaflander

>>23343517
>>23343501
Lol now the shill is desperately trying to prevent us from migrating to a platform that doesn’t allow for shilling

>>23343445
nah its pretty simple.
Acquire real money.
Dont kill your brothers.

Following either if these generates shilling on unprecedented levels.

>>23343517
You are an utter retard

>>23343517
I get paid 30 dollars an hour by leftypol to shill pro-gold standard, pro-ron paul libertarian propaganda to a GOLD/SILVER thread filled with 30 people. This is real and is totally logical.

>>23343523
the end got me lol

>>23343523
>(Pilpul, Bilbul, and Bulbul)
Do you people unironically believe that everyone and anything that disagrees with you is a jewish/talmudic conspiracy?
Answer the question without calling me a shill.

>>23343574
Connery was one of the last men.

Well lads, looks like it really will be a whip saw week to end all whipsaws.

I hope you all have some dry powder to spend on PMs and have your lead/steel stacked deep.

>>23342473
premium sucks, but when you need bj's the ladies aren't gonna have change for a 100 oz bar

>>23343600
I fomod some blue lagoon as it was rising on Friday. Does everyone really think markets are going to crash on monday?

>>23343574

Interesting that you portrayed yourself as an innocent bystander in the first 90% of your posts, but you're now sympathizing with a person whose theory is that Jews are inherently deceitful. You also seem to hate libertarians, to judge from this post. >>23343480

"If they learned anything from the past few raids in /biz/ they know that nobody here takes Marx seriously. So might as well just silence the right and make it into a more tameable Libertarian."

>>23343600
All the big news coming during the weekends is unusual. The market opening will be wild.

>>23343377
based ellen page
a pity the mods archived the thread seconds later

>>23343620
I was laughing at the sudden slap at the end shut up retard

Submitted the request. Will update soon for now I’m going to sleep. Goodnight and I hope this clusterfuck doesn’t last

>>23343501
When you make the board let us know and link it here, if mods actually do their jobs then we won’t have to worry about the shills anymore

>>23343622
Pump or dump?

>>23343616
no clue, no one can predict anything, but with 20 trillion in swaps being re evaluated I would expect volatility to increase even more. up or down is anyone's guess, I expect large movement both ways

>>23343667
All my predictions were wrong so far so I'd rather not say anything. Anyways my gut feelings tell me that there's still a long way before a big pump.

If the world has a cruel sense of humor it will crab despite all the news. Yeah it will just crab I just know it.

>>23343667
likely both, I would expect anyone who got fucked by the LIBOR to OTR change to be liquidating to cover, while enough people may be spooked out of the "fairy dust and wishes" financial vehicles into more stable equities to cause some real changes.

>>23343282
Aurcana should be shilled in every thread desu

>>23343687
Is that a Godzilla made out of grasshopper parts?

>>23343377
checked!

>>23343719
Grasshopper? Sure.. let's settle with grasshopper.

since it hasnt been posted in a while

>>23343662
>if mods actually do their jobs then we won’t have to worry about the shills anymore
then you'll discover most of the regulars in these threads are also the 'shills' you're so afraid of.

have fun showing yourself pics of your stack as you congratulate yourself on being so right about literally everything ever.

Give me a QRD on FedNow and FedCoin, I have a vague idea of what they are, but I'd like to know more.

>>23343787
its fucking awful and an absolute travesty no matter who you are or what your background that people will accept because they cannot self govern

>>23343428
Well, when I fired my coofbux dry powder back when the prices were low, I got some 2019 ASEs since the 2020s were more expensive (also got the 5oz batboi, and a tube of generics, plus another couple rounds I'd wanted. Got something like 32 ounces total). Got tax refund money on the way sometime soon too, and a fair bit of that will be getting even more silver.

>>23343687
Well, at least you found SOMETHING to do with those when all those fuckers crawl out of the ground.

>>23343707
it was interesting to see their strategy will be to mine those narrow high value tetrahedrite / galena veins. Alimak setups are great too.

>>23343801
Good choice. 2020's are plagued with milk and black oil spots.

The black spots are a mystery to the coin community. That shit is new.

>>23343768
What years were the Chilean 100 peso coins gold?

>>23343811
Its basically the best stonk I can recommend at this point. Ive been contemplating just throwing the rest of my cash at it even if it doesnt dip again.

>>23343842
I can't remember exactly, I think one of the common years was 1945. They sell them on APMEX, iirc.

>>23343851
Why do you think it's best stock? Impact has done far better for me at least inn the short term

>>23343827
I wonder if the milk spots and black spots are intentional to try to create demand for the new "improved" ASE?

>>23343811
I'm more curious how they're going to meet EPA standards for arsenic and lead in their waste.

keeping it contained is far more expensive than it's worth to mine and sell at that scale. Most of our mines died by failing to contain those 2.

>>23343800
Thanks anon.

>>23343888
there's already way more demand in place than there will be ASE's to sell.

your thought pattern is paranoid schizo typical

>>23343883
i think its a good company to have and its in the top layer with a number of projects that I think will turn into operating mines but it doesnt take the number one spot for me. I am thinking Skeena's Eskay will be that spot in my books but thats because I am bias.

>>23343888
I actually thought about that. If spots magically disappear starting in the 2021 redesigns then I would be very suspicious.

Will wait and see. The spotting issues really suddenly happened out of nowhere. ASE's were popular for not having milk spots and then it suddenly happens on the eve of the redesign? Very suspicious.

>>23343787
>>23343903

See the images in these posts:

>>23340812
>>23340618

>>23343932
>your thought pattern is paranoid schizo typical
These shills really need to come up with new buzzwords

>>23343883
because they are set up to be producing millions of oz of silver in a year or so. Even for people who it isnt their #1, they recognize that its a very strong company. see >>23343933
Do your DD and see how many OZ they are set up to pull out of the ground and at what cost per oz, speaks for itself. all the permitting is done, Q1 2021 barring something catastrophic they will be producing

>>23343811
>>23343851
4:17 "We have not made a production deceision yet, but we hope to do that very soon."

maybe if every anon on pmg sent Aurcana $5 bucks they will start production

>>23343901
New processing tech exists to catch lead, zinc, cadmium and arsenic in contaminated water. I am trying to remember the name but its basically like giant wine presses that you force the discharge waste water though before going to the settling ponds, this setup catches 95% of heavy metals in water. Its been used at Mt Polley and a few other major mines in BC, I am sure its used in the US as well. Also I am betting the back ground water near the mine from the hillsides has elevated heavy metals naturally leaching which they will be given credit against. So long as they dont go over their allotted water discharge rate they should be fine.

>>23343972
yea i was a bit bugged by that. They have the gear and setup ready to mine, but havent started yet. I think a big part of why they havent started up yet is because their looking for underground guys. Its surprising how few underground miners are left in the US and Canada under 50.

>>23343932
The 2021 redesign will have an as yet unannounced Security feature and the old design will continue to be minted until mid 2021. If the security feature is a turn off to buyers the old design having a bunch of milk spots might tip the scales in favor of people buying the new one.

>>23343933
is there something that makes Skeena better than Ascot?

>>23343865
I just checked that coin out and it’s pretty cool, the only thing I don’t like about foreign gold is that the amount of gold and its fineness isn’t stated on the coin and they aren’t widely recognized

>>23340782
Everyone's got their snappy saying but the truth is you posted this looking for some level of validation. So here it is:

Get an ounce of gold and sleep better at night. Add to it if you want, but right now just get an ounce and feel happier and safer.

>>23343968
not even shilling. Why would the mint sabotage its own products? They get paid the same whether people like the coins or not. And it's not like people aren't buying the flawed coins anyways.

>>23343977
I work with several of those new technologies, but they cost more than lead or arsenic is worth, so it's a net loss to mine on small scales.

afaik nobody is allowed to discharge water above EPA guidelines even in naturally contaminated areas. They won't be responsible for natural water outside their property, but they'll have to clean up ALL water coming from their site, including natural contaminations. US law is weird that way. If you own the mine you have to clean up any mess that was there before you. Including stuff that's been contaminated for millions of years.

>>23344017
I think the new security feature will just be privy marks and small details just like what other major mints are doing. Nothing nefarious or dystopian.

The 2021 Britannias just released their new design which features much more smaller details to prevent counterfeiting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wRbTlGpmM0

>>23344020
Skeena is further along than Ascot in planning and permitting. Both main projects of each company have major camp and power setup, Skeena needs to build a new mill complex and Ascot is upgrading their existing site. Both projects are good just ones been going on longer.

>>23344017
Possible, but they mostly sell to numismatists, not paranoid antigovernment stackers. So I doubt it.

>>23343972
>>23343999
Yeah it looked to me like he wanted to say, but couldn't. They did order all the equipment they would need it looks like, so kind of sounds like they just need to cross some ts and dot some is, before releasing the announcement. Man power can be an issue, but I think its one they can fix or at least is something that just affects the scale of production, rather then preventing it entirely.

>>23344077
Thanks, would you say one has better management than the other

>>23343943
Mints are always in danger of being undercut by their own products.
That's why Canada only makes .999 bullion tax exempt, if lower purities were exempt a number Canadians would prefer to stack the Canadian Silver Dollars from the 60s over Leafs, taking away revenue from the government.

>>23344063
yea thats the same way it is here, although often the Canadian gov will allow you some leeway with ground water if its at a specific level naturally emitting from the ground. Our regs are written so the miner has to clean up the last guys mess but if the natural environment is naturally contaminated you only have to do the best you can. I don't know the finer details though about our water regs as well as I should, I am not a water techie.

>>23344081
>they mostly sell to numismatists
Do they really? I thought paranoid stackers are the ones buying en masse.

>>23343809
A slightly updated version was posted after this

>>23343972
anon... i personally have sent aurcana more then 5$ for every poster on PMG

>>23344063
I wouldnt look too much into it... the canadian mint had a lot of issues with milk spotting too. I cant recall right now if it was the blanks or some treatment in the process, but its not uncommon.

Truckbucks.

>>23344099
could still be Aurcana needs cash

>>23344099
manpower shouldn't be a problem right now with automation halving the workforce and then corona halving it again.

we have a lot of miners looking for work atm. They're old, but they'd love a project using old tech

>>23340579
Who’s baking?

>>23344106
Skeena is a much larger company in manpower and corporate management than Ascot. Ascot though has only existed in this form for 5ish years I think. Both companies though seem to have great management teams who want their projects to work.

Mind if I make the next bread?

>>23344114
They only sell numismatic coins on their website. The ASEs and ATBs that you get at a coin shop or online will have been sold in bulk specially to the dealers.

>>23344131
lots of old boys to teach the new ones how not to kill yourself on a muck machine.

>>23344117
>anon... i personally have sent aurcana more then 5$ for every poster on PMG
kek, I guess I sent them $2950 for 5000 shares to be exact

>>23344118
Thanks.

>>23344147
Well if he meant like that then he's not wrong.

>>23344126
maybe do you have a source for that at all? but i dont think so the last release said they were looking for 10 mill and got 12 or 15 (cant remember offhand) and that was a while ago that they raised it.

>>23344134
Bump cuz I dunno how bake

>>23344112
I mostly deal with mine water and soils, which usually costs more than mines make in the US. It's the main reason we have relatively few small and medium sized miners. Heck, we lose a few enormous miners sometimes over it. You've seen it I know.
>>23344114
>Do they really?
I could be wrong, and I'd guess stats would be hard to get, but all the ASE's I know of personally are in the hands of coin collectors who'd like a few security features to guarantee authenticity.
>>23344117
>its not uncommon.
that's my thinking too. They don't need to fuck up the coins on purpose, it happens often enough by accident.

New bread

>>23344180
>>23344180
>>23344180

>>23344156
Yeah I kind of feel like man power wont be such a big issue, mining is not popular, but it pays well, and eager young guys will learn from the salty veterans fairly well I would expect. Outside of standard safety courses its not like the workforce is bottle necked behind multi year university degrees or anything.

>>23344156
that's a thing of beauty right there

>>23344138
Go ahead baker-sama

>>23344157
not bad at all, im hoping to break 8k shares.

>>23344190
we're just equipment operators that took a 3 day class

>>23340812
>>23340853
its actually going to happen, isn't it lads?

The writing has been on the wall for a long time I suppose. We're going full dystopian.

>>23344200
i hate muck machines so much. So easy to kill yourself or your buddies with them.

>>23344167
Just 2 month old or older youtube videos of them looking for $

>>23344241
that's a classic though. Nobody uses adits or drifts that narrow anymore

>>23344294
yes they do in fact! I was trained on them, but thankfully that particular mine also had vein runner type scoop trams and haul trucks so we rarely used them.

Reminder you just need to buy 23 cents of silver coins to get your share of annual coin production.

>>23344309
I've seen em used for manways, haulage and ventilaiton, but even that's pretty rare in the US anymore. Now if you can't drive a truck through it, it's not big enough.

Damn. Somebody really does not want us talking about FedCoin/fednow.
Don't take the bait!

For my two cents, the new FedCoin is treasury issued, metal backed, and cryptographically secured. As long as it's issued under Donald "Andrew Jackson" Trump.

If it's issued under a Harris administration, it's full dystopian UBI negative interest coin.
2021 will literally set the course of the next 1000 years of humanity

>>23344156
>>23344309
glad you lived to pan another day, I'd probably be dead within 10 minutes

>>23344365
its surprisingly simple, so long as you stay in sinc with the muck machines throw, you wont kill yourself. These machines are tippy as fuck, and love to over power when turning, causing them to tip over.

>>23344338
>For my two cents, the new FedCoin is treasury issued, metal backed, and cryptographically secured. As long as it's issued under Donald "Andrew Jackson" Trump.

what is this assumption based on? anything objective?

>>23344728
>Donald "Andrew Jackson" Trump
>antagonistic to the Fed
>appears to have put the Fed under the control of the treasury
>nominates Judy Shelton, who likes the gold standard
>accepts gold for lease payments

>>23343763
Thank you Yukari-chan