/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23335189
Because they have a large organization of armed men

>>23335189
He’s looking a lot better

>>23335189
because we let them

>>23335189
jews, unironically

Diversity is expensive. Don't forget the roads.

>>23335189
wE lIvE iN a SoCiETy

>>23335219
You'd be doing better too if you started banging a young ebony chick

who will build the roads and the transport then?

>>23335189
For most people, they never actually get that money in the first place. So rather than thinking of it as making 100k and being taxed 30k, you're really just being paid 70k. The pre-tax number is just you flattering yourself.

>>23335374
don't most wagies ever look at the pretax numbers and realize they're being straight up robbed? their pay would almost double in some cases

Jews won and don't want you to be happy, so they need to steal your efforts to give to niggers and your foreskin stem cells to sell to their friends as said niggers rape everything you love.

>>23335189
because they have a monopoly on violence and they will use it on you if you don't pay them their protection racket

>>23335648
this but unironically

>>23335189
If you don't pay taxes, one day men with guns will show up to your house

>>23335554
Pretax doesn't exist outside of Michael Bay movies.

>>23335554
>live in a civilised country with good infrastructure
>think they're being robbed by the country
people are just searching for a reason why they're not doing/feeling well, they'll blame anyone but themselves

>>23335891
the US had good infrastructure before income tax

Roads

>>23335910
this fuck niggers

>>23335911
Fuck roads, everyone should drive 4x4 trucks

>>23335554
Normies/wagoes don't connect the dots until shit gets uncomfortable.

>>23335189
What are you going to do about it?

Imagine thinking your tax dollars go to infrastructure and roads.

All the government does with your tax dollars is give it to poorfags and Israel and random military companies who use your tax dollars to pay lobbyists to convice the government officials to spend more tax dollars on them.

becaus every year we print .5-1trillion out of future money and need to make 6% payments on that money we gave right to billionaires who dont pay an taxes.

>>23335911
Less than 1% of the budget is spent on transportation infrastructure. The large majority of our expenses are for Medicare, boomer gibs, gibs-for-nigs, veteran and military personnel gibs, and the best one: interest on our national debt.

>>23335337
who will support Shaniqua and her 10 children

>>23335554
>>23335910
What are you going to do about it?
>nothing
OK. Shut the fuck up.

>>23335309
this buy ironically

>>23335992
all the government does with tax dollars is deletes it. reducing money supply.

>>23335337
Part of the scam with taxes is helping corporations to get both customers and non-customers to pay for part of the framework required for your business to be operational.

If guns weren't pointed towards the people, the businesses would pay for the roads leading to their facilities just like they pay for the walls, cash registers, marketing, etc. There's nothing unconventional or mysterious, or in modern times inconvenient, about a private road.

>>23335911
what the absolute fuck does social security, welfare, and insane amounts of public education for idiots who will never use it have anything to do with roads.

>>23336084
interest that goes to who?

>>23336182
But the blend of lower and upper case letters should have informed you that the message was already ironic, anon.

>>23336382
i was being inronically ironic moran

>>23336337
>the businesses would pay for the roads leading to their facilities just like they pay for the walls, cash registers, marketing, etc.
Yeah, no.
The US interstate highway system is key for the modern US economy.
Businesses would never pay for it.
Businesses also won't pay for military research and development labs that experiment at a constant LOSS.
US tax system guarantees:
1) The mightiest military
2) The US world reserve currency is maintained because of 1)
3) Interstate highway system
4) Military r&d.

>>23336455
>1) The mightiest military
>2) The US world reserve currency is maintained because of 1)
>3) Interstate highway system
>4) Military r&d.
does any of this really benefit the average American?

>>23336527
Hell yes it does.
The world reserve currency = low borrowing rates and cheap credit.
Enough said.

>>23336455
thats nice, except the vast majority of taxes go towards keeping the most useless generation of morons; the boomers, alive, because for some reason they deserve UBI for being old but everyone else deserves shit for having terrible parents.

>>23335189
How will we pay for this if you dont give us your money?

>>23335189
Because you are cucks. Cope harder

>>23336552
the low borrowing rates and cheap credit are only for big corporations and the government. the average amerigoylem is shafted

>>23336554
The US one of the easiest/best countries in the world to start a business.
This still /biz?

>>23335276
>ITZ TEEEEEEEH JJJJOOOOOOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ S. N WHH NWUHNUSHSN JNS SHNSUSHUYSHMUH BAUM HYM W

Fucking kill yourself you fucking dumb retard faggot

>>23336585
>the average amerigoylem is shafted
No. You will see shafted if the US loses the world reserve currency.
I guarantee that.

>>23336587
youre literally not allowed to start a business if you dont have a nigger or woman on your team.

>>23336652
Found the non-biz guy with a low, low net worth.
Small business.
Start a small business.

>>23336455
>Businesses would never pay for it
Not in our current scenario where the government already does force the public to pay up at gunpoint.

Why don't you think businesses would find it a worthy investment to pay for logistics giving them access to literally millions of more customers. Paying for infrastructure is part of doing business in countless examples. If you wind an oil reservoir, you build the fucking pipe that goes on for miles and miles.

It's not like a small business will survive in the middle of nowhere in the current scenario either. Wouldn't the huge and plentiful corporations pay for infrastructures leading to their shared business centers if tax-financed roads weren't an option?

>>23335189
37% is the highest tax bracket in the US and that's only for income over $518,400. The effective tax rate if you make $518,400 is only 29.39% since tax brackets are progressive and only apply to income that falls within each bracket.

Welcome to /biz/, please educate yourself before posting.

>>23336554
redpill me and gib me a run down of that boomer-thing, pl0x

>>23336749
The current scenario?
It is to laugh...
What country has built a national or interstate highway system without government funding?
>none
You are an idealistic academic.

>>23336811
state income tax. sales tax. property tax. other fees. inflation. government is taking 30-60% of your income like i said

>>23336875
this has gotta be bait

>>23336875
Why should I be ok with paying for a business' logistics expenses simply because of tradition?
What tradition should we be comfortable with next?
Paying for their telecom? That's infrastructure too.
Why not pay for the land that their facilities stand on? Should the businesses get that shit "for free" courtesy of tax payer?

>>23336999
>Why should I be ok with living in the highest GDP nation in the world?
Easy suggestion for you:
1) Leave the highest GDP nation in the world.
2) Sack a government within a third world country
3) Implement your "ideas"

>>23337118
I live in Sweden though, so I'm a bit disillusioned about that feeding a bloated corpocracy results in benefiting the people

>>23335276
Redpilled
>>23336606
Bluepilled

>>23336689
you mean right when 90% of small businesses are getting shut down? found the over-optimistic retard

>>23336896
Even in California making $10,000,000 (nobody makes this, top 0.1% in Cali is something like 3mil, even Bezos only makes $80k) a year, Federal/State/FICA combined effective income tax rate is 52.06%. Sales tax, property tax, other fees and inflation are not income taxes.

Welcome to /biz/, please educate yourself before posting.

>>23337486
>assumes that I meant: start a retail business
Stay poor anon.
Stay poor.

>>23335207

this. the same reason your money is even worth anything to begin with, because it's backed by armed people who will kill anyone who says otherwise

>>23335207
fpbp

>>23335207
But when they gonna also take 30-60% of their income too, army might get way smaller. They are part of the sacrifice pawns too.

>>23335189
Dude gotta pay for brown people lmao

>>23337566
>assumes that i assume
bro just buy a truck and clean shit out of peoples shit tanks bro its good money bro people will respect you bro

>>23335189
because the government has a monopoly on organised violence
organised violence is self-evidently more effective than unorganised violence, and thus any state entity which does not have a monopoly on organised violence invariably gets invaded, or otherwise taken over, by an entity whose violence is more organised, and thus more violent

this is why more heterarchical (flat) systems of government (anarchism, communism, and the like) cannot function in any way similar to how they are described on paper; they are too vulnerable to external and internal monopolies on violence forming and enacting a coup d'état

for your government to even BE your government in the first place, it HAS to be the case
the law of the jungle is a inescapable law of reality

a more interesting question would be WHY they take 30-60% of your income

>>23335337
>Roads, I don’t need them.

>>23336382
dumbass

Because you work in a country where the money is backed by the whatever central bank distributes it. Fiat currency compared to money backed by gold can be digitally printed an infinite number of times. The debt never goes away because when loans are taken out, interest is applied and you pay back more than the amount you initially got a loan for.

It should be illegal but try telling the banks that.

>>23337682
Agreed, lets all get off road battle trucks

>>23337550
inflation is an expansion of the money supply. it reduces the value of the existing money supply so it is effectively a tax

>>23336211
>deflationary token burn was here all along

>>23338110
inflation is not a tax

>>23338394
Yes it is

>>23338248
the borrow and spend far more than they destroy with taxes obviously

>>23338435
false

>>23336360
zoom out

>>23335910
yeah and you would have been a little poorfag at best

>>23339693
Not an argument

>>23335189
so another government doesnt take 100%

>>23335189
Imported niggers need their ac on 24/7 someone needs to pay for that, cough up paypig

>>23335207
This. We live in a society, anon.

>>23335189
They don't. It wasn't YOUR income in the first place.

>>23341103
How is it not?

>>23335189
>PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE OR GO LIVE IN SOMALIA, RETARD.

>>23342031
Rightists really are snowflakes. That's exactly how it works.

>>23342169
Meanwhile the left wants to push even more taxes, which richfags will just get back from hiking prices

>>23342188
What's the problem? Rising tides lifts all boats.

>>23342818
you keep saying that as the gap gets wider, trickle down economics doesn’t work fag

>>23336455
Having the strongest military is useless when China just rapes you with propaganda , technology theft and economic warfare

>>23342830
So we agree that rightism doesn't work.

>>23335945
maybe its a defence mechanism, they know blackpilling themselves will make them depressed

God damn. This thread is still going.
>>23342881
Not arguing that there are no problems with China... The US having the strongest military ensures that it continues to hold the world reserve currency.
There is no doubt about it.
>>23343064
No.
Normies implicitly understand that the IRS has it's own police force that will kick down their fucking door if they fuck around.

>>23343024
people like you are so disgusting
your world is literally red vs blue
you are cancer to the world
it's unfortunate you probably went to school for at least 15 years of your life and still the end result is this narrow minded retard level drooler tier my team vs your team shit

>>23343149
Thanks for your epic projection, Ivan.

>>23335189
Someone need to pay the single mothers with mixed race childs.

>>23335189
Because women vote

>>23335319
Post the picture. I always forget to save it

>>23343924
>what's that peasant class? You're gonna shoot me with your second amendment? My spec ops private security would swiss cheese your ass before you finished sic semper tyranus. That's what I thought take your ass to the ballot box.
Holy shit how did he get away with mogging you guys like that???

>>23343924
>what's that peasant class? You're gonna shoot me with your second amendment? My spec ops private security would swiss cheese your ass before you finished sic semper tyranus. That's what I thought take your ass to the ballot box.
Holy shit how did he get away with mogging you guys like that??

>>23335207
This, and historically and optimally its good because the government is there for the common good and governs your people, your extended family.

>>23344103
yo shut the fuck up slandering women you're a piece of shit it isn't their fault faggot

>>23344287
This is textbook white knight, but hes right, its not womans fault. And if you think yes, explain.

>>23335337
That's the retardation...
Imagine if there were 5% taxes, the country takes that money then builds shit with it, if it doesn't have enough then it only builds what it can.
Now what happens IRL is that the government will want to build something, so they take a loan from the central bank for interests, then build your roads, the problem is your income taxes are used to pay for the loans your country took 30 years ago, the loans the country is taking today will be paid by your grandchildren, well the interests on them will desu.
(((They))) truly are the gods of money, they are the money.
They build shit with credit from future people and pay present workers and resources with currency that doesn't have a reserve, except they also take a huge chunk of it after paying these workers because income taxes, and they make money through the interests.
Plus when a crisis happens and people want to pull their money from the bank, since the banks have a very low fractional reserve rate, they'll go bankrupt if people want their money, so their central bank (they own it, check wikipedia) prints lots of money to save them from going bankrupt, the state allows it to do it because if the people lose their money at once they're turn on the state and it'll lose its power.
The future will unironically be extremely fucked up... as in economics will cause a third world war or some crazy shit like it.

>>23335189

Because america is a crypto plantation

>>23335189
women are on average mentally impaired letting them make crucial decisions that are imposed upon us all was a huge mistake i don't mean they don't deserve happiness but they definitely don't deserve having leading positions and being taken too seriously women are dumb and evil because of being dumb whoever doesn't agree is lower than a woman and deserves being thrown in cuck prison for simps

>>23335337

>private company can build rockets to mars
>can't pour some asphalt in an open field, though

>>23335189

The issue is the very concept of income taxes. If you tax something, you get less of it. If you pay for something, you get more of it. At the moment, we generally just tax success and reward failure (drug addicts, poor people, retards who were too stupid to save for retirement)

We should tax bad things: cigarrettes, alchohol, pornography, advertising, criminals (fines), obese people... If a company makes a shit product or fucks up, fine them. If that's not enough, add some Georgism.

And instead of subsidising childlessness and extravagant youths with the pension, we subsidize having children. We subsidize healthy people, pay parents for having children who are good members of society (or tax them for doing a bad job). If we just switch to this method, everything will be greatly improved.