/biz/ - Business & Finance

first for fuck my ass

>>23324055
I think I’ve seen porn of this one where she forces a guy to ejaculate between her feet while making him sniff her shoe

whoever shilled SRAC a few /smg/'s ago....thank you for bringing to my attention.

>>23324057
s'alright anon almost all my relationships have been freak luck. I think for anyone other than an absolute run-of the mill normie, relationships tend to happen at times you don't expect them to.

>bought GME at $13.19 AH
>it's already up to $13.41
Good way to end the week.

Had a RH account for the past few years, recently got into trading regularly in the past month. Is it normal to feel as hopeless and depressed as today? These losses and the lack of a wet hole to cum in are really making me sad.
I need to stick to boomer mutual funds.

>>23324119
Its prob slowly reacting to the new MS news about Bethesda games being exclusive for PC and Xbox mostly.
The fact that it takes this long, just like it took days for it to react to the whole revenue sharing deal, just shows how out of touch boomers are with gaming.
Finally, my gaming addiction will pay off.

>>23324072
oh my b, it’s her armpit not her shoe

>>23324149
if youre just day trading yeah ive felt that too. i like to have a lot of long holds and focus on a couple short term plays at once

>>23324149
Have you tried to freeze your cum loads? I've been freezing my cum in tupperware since March and I've never been happier

>>23324173

trump lost the election

>>23324165
I don't even want to day trade, it just seems like I have weak fucking hands. I've always been selling when prices dip so I could buy back in cheaper but I've always gotten fucked doing this.
>>23324173
I've considered it

>>23324119
small volume though, AH doesn't mean anything unless there's at least 1m volume

>>23324210
This
When FSLY dropped 30% AH it had over 5 million in volume and opened pretty close to where it closed in AH.

Alright I caved in. I'm one of the idiots selling FB and AAPL and buying GME afterhours.

I'm a retard!

>>23324193
trump will win easily desu tranny

>>23324260
seriously what the fuck is aapl doing? Do i need to wait another 2 years for the revolutionary AR device?

>>23324055
Not a single mention of HTZ which hit 1 billion volume today lmao

>>23324260
just dont be the retard who panic sells, you have the whole weekend to understand the numbers on GME yourself. There's more to this than just the short squeeze, this has been going up because of the change in sentiment on the future prospects of GME, not because shorts have started covering

the revenue share through Microsoft is basically 100% profit margin

Today is the last day we see GME below 13.30. I would say it in blue, but 4ch has no blue text function, so I'll say it in green.
>GME isn't goin below 13.30 ever gain

>>23324295
>Not a single mention of HTZ which hit 1 billion volume today lmao
? are you just baiting

>>23324340
speaking of shorts not covering,

Whats everyone's plan if they don't cover before Q3 (which is looking increasingly likely)

>>23324173
how does freezing affect the taste?

>>23324173
TUP

>>23324350
>again

>>23324361
I'm going to sit there and let GME beat Q3 earnings, then sell when GME hits 100 a share.

>>23324361
hold, stop averaging up

you'll miss out on scalping profits but at least you won't be bagholding if it starts dipping or crabbing like AMD does
there will be a point where GME stops being undervalued regardless of whether shorts cover or not, and you don't want to be averaging up after that point
price-to-sales ratio to competitors offers a rough estimate of that

i really doubt we'd reach that point before shorts start covering though, unless we're somehow thinking this will reach $50 without a squeeze by Q3 (very strongly doubt)

Who else /halloween/?

>>23324409
> beat Q3 earnings
as a survivor of Q2 I highly doubt this.
Was planning on swinging most of my calls from Jan into Apr through the dip Im expecting and selling some puts with high IV going in

>>23324439
realistically I expect hitting about ~$20 going into Q3
That's based on the expectation of 2 news-based catalysts

>>23324467
So you think we should sell before Q3 and then come back in after things have cooled down?

>>23324119
I want to sodomize this man

>>23324173
Loading up on TUP calls as we speak

I will give you my advice as one of the boys here since Q2 earnings.
There is no need to sell Q3. It will dip, the dip will be bought up, and we will likely be back to where we were but slightly higher in a day or two max.
You can try to time it but I suggest not doing it. The fact that Q3 WONT crash GME will be the final catalyst.
DO NOT SELL Q3. YOU MIGHT LOSE OUT ON SOME SMALL GAINS BUT THE FACT THAT IT WONT CRASH AND WILL JUST DIP MIGHT CAUSE SHORTS TO COVER.
BE CAREFUL.

>>23324467
this the supply of Nintendo Switches have caught up with demand and they get "more than a fair share" of them. Mario Kart Live, dunno if that will be huge but presumably they will get a large supply of it too
The 1UP sale might be the huge surprise though, Amazon Prime being delayed may end up being fantastic for Gamestop too, normally that would have been in Q2

>>23324515
I really, really hope we squeeze on news pump + borrow rates exponential before Q3

Just because Q3 is the biggest risk point in the strategy. Most likely they will miss Q3 expectations because it's pre-consoles. If priced similarly to Q2 that in of itself is a -25% percent move, but I'm more concerned about it breaking momentum and reviving the bear thesis.
Of course if they somehow beat Q3 expectations (which are negative anyway) like BBBY did on their last earnings, then its straight to the motherfucking stratosphere and missing that would be extremely painful.

>>23324566
also been here since Q2, that's why I'm concerned fren
I had swung Q2 I'd have so much more accumulated now

>>23324566
Holding for sure, if it dips I'm adding on, buy the dip to tip the squeeze

>>23324592
But fren, if GME doesn't crash and just has a dip the shorts will finally break. And that's what will likely happen.
I can't risk letting my guard down and selling until the shorts cover. That moment, when others are fearful, and you have iron hands, might be what makes you the most money.
I won't be kicked out of the fun when the first halt happens.

>>23324584
Fuck anon, it feels like the market's just going to react to fuck us over regardless of what we do sometimes.

>>23324520
no way that's a man

>>23324450
didnt get no trick or treaters last year, prob wont get this year either

Should I dump this trash Monday

>>23324639
that's a man, baby! ya!

>>23324584
im holding, it'll hurt to lose my unrealized gains but i was never going to risk scalping before a squeeze happens, unrealized gains are not real to me
as long as my cost basis is under the "floor" of Gamestop, I can comfortably hold until shorts run out of money to pay interest, if it takes longer than Q3/Q4 then I'll trim my position to cover my cost basis and let the rest ride

wait so is GME going UP? i bought the thing that makes me more money if the stock goes down

Welcome anon. See you on Jupiter.

oh no no no look at this dude

>>23324678
>betting on GME going down

>>23324678
who knows how long we have to wait for the next catalyst, $13 might become the new $9

>>23324677
Checked.
This is the only way to play this game. If you own shares, you just have to hold until they give up, which will be Q4 max.

>>23324092
Welcome anon. See you on Jupiter

>>23324659
>selling six months before the expiry date

Average day of a GME holder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olgn9sXNdl0

>>23324704
it did go down I made money on the drop today

>>23324722
I can’t stand to look at the losses

>>23324566
>>23324584
>>23324592
>>23324609
>>23324630
>>23324677
Interesting news from Justin in the comments of the Roaring Kitty stream (been chatting with him)

Apparently the new Mario Kart Live is selling gangbusters and its only really available at Gamestop right now due to allocation (not at walmart or other retailers). And it will show up at Q3
Q3 beat might be the final nail in the coffin. God that's fucking scary

>>23324640
Prolly best due to your restraining order

BUY SNSS

>>23324659
why don't you just sell weekly calls against it?

Unrelated, but I thought it'd be interesting if I journaled my calendar spreads today, pic related. For those who know double entry accounting, it's cool to see exactly how calendars make you money.
I have:
>nflx 540s
>tsla 445s
>t 27.50s
all -oct23rd/+oct30th

>>23324764
HEY HEY HEY
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME
THANK U BASED REGGIE

>>23324764
fuck i have it running on the side but I missed that
anything else i missed?

i wont be a pussy and i wont trim before Q3

>>23324764
more interesting news from some rando in the RK chat:
>I have a bet 10/30 calls. MSFT earning are on 10/27 after hours. I'm betting that they're going to mention the GME partnership. lol

What are your GME positions, /smg/

>>23324193
Well now that I don't have to vote. How are we going to profit after Biden gets removed and this Niggress is running the cuntry.

>>23324786
>SNSS
Retards like this guy and others biz degenerates playing NAK, HTZ, or GME weeklies will always lose money. Look at the fucking SNSS chart for fucks sake.

You don't deserve good advice, because you wouldn't listen to it anyway.

>>23324821
only shares just so i have less stress

>>23324821
300 shares @ $8.37 average
10 x Jan 2021 $15 call
7 x Jan 2021 $20 call
7 x Jan 2021 $30 call

really want to add, but scared of averaging up going into Q3

>>23324821
shares and november calls, will wait for the Q3 dip to buy calls for next year

Is this GME thing not even about a squeeze? Just a turnaround?

>>23324566
I wish I'd bought more NTDOY honestly.

I was going to buy these and maybe flip them when they probably sell out. Looks like I missed my shot
FUCK:
>>23324764

Well that idea fell through...

>>23324721
All these worlds are yours. Except Europa. Attempt no landing there.

Threw a grand in today and will DCA more and more every week.

>>23324055
Htz was as high as 5.53 less than 6 months ago. It looks like it has a fairly srtong resistance at $3. If it breaks above 3 on monday or has a strong premarket, it could push to 5

>>23324878
it's both it's a deep value turnaround story WITH 115% of outstanding shares sold short

>>23324764
>>23324817
>>23324878
I wonder if the strategy is just to sell cash covered puts going into Q3 to harvest that sweet sweet IV?
Dips -> get paid to buy the dip
Earning beat triggers squeeze -> moar money to go insta-all in

Can anyone explain the real reasons *not* to hold a 2x leverage ETF long term? (QLD or SSO)

I'm not anywhere near retirement age and I can afford to let it ride out if it draws down far. Everything I've read online seems to overblow the danger of """decay""".

>>23324821
I got like $500 spread on 5 calls for next Friday. Sorry I'm watching Cspan listening to the cunt from Michigan. The broad before her was giving a sob story about health care and how she has her own mental health issues since she married a dude with mental health problems and kept his babies.

>>23324911

3x exists. Also just compare things like beta slippage and rebalancing, on top of etf fees as little as they are.

>>23324878
NTDOY seems like an all around super solid long term pick
gaming is a great sector right now, the switch is doing gangbusters, and most "smart money" investors (read: Burry) are bullish on Japanese equities best surviving the coming dollar turmoil

Hey guys, rural retard here, sorry if i got too drunk last night. I promise to behave more gentlemanly

Guys i need some help please
Does anyone know anything about using webhooks from tradingview?
Basically I have a program that 100% prints money I just need to figure out how to get the trades to auto execute vis webhooks from tradingview.
If i get things running i could have that info go somewhere for people here as well, getting messages on telegram and twitter is easy

Anyone else have a similar portfolio? Anything I should change out? Been averaging into all of them like $50 at a time for the last week or so

> 25% TSLA
> 25% TSM
> 25% UPS
> 10% GME
> 10% TQQQ
> 5% ETSY

Today kind of wiped out my meager gains for everything except TSLA. Oh well, hopefully September was the worst of it all

I cannot get hype about a game being called by Beth Mowins

>>23324911
most of what you read is funded media bought and paid for to steer you into mutual funds or retirement products and away from etfs. Just look at the funds structure and fees and do what ever you want.

>>23324746
That is the literal definition of tranny paper hands.

>>23324939
3x or 2x, it still seems like the "danger hype" is overblown if you are willing to take the risks of a big drawn down. If you are still planning on being in the market for another decades or more that are the disadvantages? I have yet to come across an article online that makes it clear.

>>23324895
Am i a retard or not?

>>23324821
About 3k shares from when it was $9.
I'd put in more but that's all the money I have.

>>23324821
Thousand shares at 9.69 and a mess of calls and debit spreads, I'm learning options while riding a roller coaster. I missed profits on the q2 dip big time with TUP. Tup has been in my portfolio since march at around 1.50 and it's at 22ish now, earnings reports should be sweet for them. New CEO really tapped into online retail during all this.

>>23324878
>Is this GME thing not even about a squeeze? Just a turnaround?
i mean at this point i've done enough DD to believe I can also long GME with a smaller position
BUT you should still sell if it squeezes because it will predictably dump hard. Buy puts on day 2/3 of the squeeze buy the dip after at least a month

it'll probably look like the top chart of TLRY

HTZ was looking so good till I saw it’s down 6% AH. It’ll go to 3$ Monday right?!

>>23324821
something like ~1750 shares now

just averaged up with part of my paycheck today, but i could only add up 50 shares when it would have netted me at least 100 shares before

>>23325025
Oh God TLRY was fucking retarded. I mean hype from New consoles and a squeeze could do something like that.... 4 billion GME valuation doesn't even sound unreasonable and thatd be like a 25 30 dollar valuation.

>>23324994

Probably drawdowns since you tacked on a multiplier on whatever index you're buying. So if the nasdaq 100 was down 8% that day, the underlying 2x index etf will be down 16% when explained in theory. Most people just can't handle the larger than usual loss mentally, so they stick with plain vanilla index etfs or funds. Articles online just capitalize on said fears, and if you actually know what you're getting into and plan accordingly, you won't get shafted. That's all there is to it. Likewise to say, there's a lot of leveraged etfs these days so just look through them to find the most efficient one that isn't a turd.

>>23325025
What's the deal with tlyr

I should have just bought zoom

>>23324992
So you think I’ll be fine? I have plenty of time. I thought TSM will go nothing but up because of how much the semi conductor market is growing

Is buying TQQQ basically FOMO on a ten year level?

>>23325074
>HTZ
I thought they were a dead bankrupt company who filed for chapter 11 and fucked over shareholders when the news broke..

>>23325074
uh no, the moon mission is much much less likely since profit takers are overpowering shorts covering
doesn't look like it's going to be a chain reaction squeeze but coinflip might still be on by premarket

>>23325093
They're a pot stock and retardation dick waving between bulls and bears happened.... many on both sides got killed.

>>23325074
There was no squeeze. You had one chance to sell right after open. Enjoy your bags.

>all this bad WKHS news
>contract to be announced AFTER election
I'm not sure how to proceed. I've been holding 50 shares at 17.16 for quite some time. At worst, I've been in the red $100, and at best $800 green. I was mostly banking on our awful president and the Postmaster General's influence to secure the deal but now I'm not so sure.

Should I cash out now at $300 green? Wait for another meme spike up near 30? Or just hold the iron bag and take whatever win/loss comes with the contract announcement, as was originally planned?

>>23325093
that was back in 2018 during weed stocks peak
absolute tulip mania since at least bitcoin held its value after 2017

TLRY was a massive rally upwards with the rest of weed stocks on top of a short squeeze to top it all of in the middle. Notice how the line kept trending upwards after the squeeze (Canada legalization wasn't until October 2018)

>he isn’t all in on HD leaps
Ngmi ngl

>>23325139
>>23325156
Interdasting

>>23325165
I know lumber has been selling at a premium but why should I vest into home depot? Their ER isn't even until november.

>>23325156
They had like 10 employees a small building and were valued at like 10 billion.

>>23325025
>BUT you should still sell if it squeezes
how do you identify or prepare for this? trailing limit sells?

>>23325149
Its a long hold dummy

>>23325222
when SI finally drops you'll know

>>23325221
but baggie it's DUDEWEED bro
>>23325222
checkeroony. either a trailing stop loss or a limit sell if you're uberconfident. Or both if your broker allows octo-orders.

>>23325187
interesting to note, you wouldn't even know there was ever a squeeze on TLRY on the weekly if it was just a line graph, only apparent with candle stick

>>23325222
>how do you identify or prepare for this? trailing limit sells?
oh you will fucking know
if it does happen, call in sick on day 2 and day 3 because an hour difference could be a difference of +100%

APRN triggered an infinite squeeze because of a fucking tweet or something

>>23325221
Are you and bagholderextrordinare the same person? Ive seen both trips in the same thread before, am i a retard?

>>23324976
No one knows????

>>23325246
I see the long green line, is that volume???

Holy shit that broad from trumps townhall last night is on Hannity show. Shes not as dark as i thought she was.

MNKD
LCTX

>>23325221
Also did you blow up your account with options on purpose like 6months-1 year ago?

>>23324821
This is one of the biggest gambles I've ever taken, and I'm saying that as someone who was holding NCLH last week.

>>>23324057
>Gave her my discord
I think I'm officially unable to connect at a cultural level with the younger generations now.

>>23325289
candlesticks are a box and whisker plot. That was the extremum price value in that block

>>23324821
It's half my portfolio..my portfolio isn't very big but I buy everytime I get a little cash.

>>23325311
Oh got it, wow

>>23325289
it squeezed to a high $300.00 that week
trading halt stopped it from going further and killed the momentum

similar thing happened with KODK, trading halt capped it at 60.00 and by the time trading resumed people were in profit taking mode

>>23325301
>8200 shares
you gonna write calls on that nigga?

>>23325100
I do think it’ll be fine yeah, screencap this and post a pink wojack if I’m wrong

>>23325338
I don't know how to pick the right strike price, so no.

hi smg friends
we're gonna make it

>>23325149
Sell half next time it hits 30 and buy the dip.

>>23324881
keep accumulating until the December pop... when everyone else will learn about it because it is on a SpaceX rocket. 4000 shares deep myself at this stage.

>>23325352
If the bog pill is correct just write weekly ATM/slightly OTM calls at the thursday peak

>>23325286
yeah I mean when I first found this thread back in 2017 or what ever we were /rhg/ back then I came up with BagholderExtraordinaire for a title. Felt humble and likeable yet noble enough to take pride in. I got drunk and gave out the code #727 so people started emulating me and mocking me... enough people would refer to me as Baggie and when I entered my secure trip code I found God in it.

>>23325366
I fucking better, this trade went heavily in my favor today and I'm hoping to maybe cop out with a grand

What company should I invest in if I think automation putting high school dropouts out of work is the future?

>>23325378
Since we know this, we buy puts on Thursday. However, since everyone knows this and is doing the same thing, it will no longer work since it's priced in. Therefore, buy calls on Thursday.

>>23325406
unironically? probably one of the ark etfs

Looking at past EBITDA for GME, it seems that Q2 has always been the worst quarter for them. This time even more so with store closures. Now that stores are reopened I think that Q3 has a decent chance of beating the low expectations.

I want to write a limit sell of $80-$100 for gme but fidelity wont' let me because "it is too far away from current price"
I'm thinking about going to their local office and seeing if I can change that because who the fuck knows what will happen.

>>23325406
QQQ

>>23325300
I blew up 12k back in May over a weekend. I don't gamble what I can't afford to lose. I'm still debt free and basically in love.

>>23324055
PFE is the KO of medicine.

>>23325406

Unironically TQQQ.

>>23325410
I doubt enough people know who soostefan is, or that he's likely to be accurate for this to be priced versus the whale just continuing to bog

>>23325406
tqqq

>>23325406
ARKQ/QQQ

>>23325419
You need a firm price.. i mean you're just letting greed take hold.

>>23325428
>>23325420
>>23325457
What automation stock does qqq have?

i just want to keep buying and holding. more leverage etf? VUG?

>>23325475
FAGMA

>>23325419
its unironically not going 40+

30 is really high for it. It might hit 30. No im not a fudder. I think 20 is very realistic.

>>23325100
We’re at the end of that for a while honestly. I still don’t get why people assume massive growth indicates more massive growth. This is why u people buy at the top.

>>23325473
normally yes, but with how heavily shorts are wound up, it's hard to predict

I think it's going to hit 3 digits personally

>>23325112
I mean I’m happy w my modest gains. Yes I held HTZ all day with no stop loss and was busy wagecucking for much of it

>>23325366
dubs of truth

>>23325144
I held all day and made money

>>23324350

>>23325392
what kind of option play is that? that shit just looks green no matter what happens. How is that possible? that shit is profitable in a way wider range than a condor.

Also what website do options guys use to generate these plots? Retard considering moving into options here.

>>23325287
Sounds fuckin tasty. Reply w a discord link and your username

>>23325473
If the squeeze pops it may hit 3 digits.
I think 70 is being reasonable.

Remember that it’s impossible to beat the market and investing in passive index funds is the ONLY way to make it

>>23325490
If you think GME with a squeeze won't go past 30 you haven't done your DD.

>>23325547
Thank you anon

>>23325490
I unironically plowed your mother.

>>23325548
This is a calendar spread, $NFLX $540 -oct23/+oct30
The chart comes from optionsprofitcalculator which should be in the OP links.

>>23325335
>they halted it
how is that allowed wtf

>>23325490
$20 is the non-squeeze pre Q3 price target

>>23325622
Oy Vey, questioning that is anti-semetic.

>>23324439
Seconding this. I expect a crash on Q3 earnings, will hold regardless.
My bet is not on the console cycle, it's on a successful pivot to make the business LESS cyclical. Hoping for $40 minimum by end of 2021 based on comparable retail. The company must demonstrate growing subscription revenue and I believe it will.
Scaling out on the way, dumping on a squeeze.
If this fails I will take the loss. That's the nice thing about getting in early.

>>23324193
debunked

>>23325650
"loss" as in taking a smaller profit than hoped
that's why I say stop averaging up closer to Q3

next paycheck might be my last time to average up

>>23325673
Quick run down on this meme

>>23325548
If you manually enter numbers into options profit calculator, you can get too-good-to-be-true profitability charts.

>>23325602
Thanks anon. I appreciate it.

From what I have seen calendar spreads are just bets that the stock isn't going to do anything. That seems like pretty easy money.

>>23325622
it's an automatic circuit breaker

it took these many trading halts for SPI to reach +4000% in a day (well actually +1000% intraday with +400% premarket)

>>23325705
plug it in for yourself then fren
I'm walkin outta this ER with a fucking BAG swear on me ass
>>23325720
in all honestly I'm probably selling this RIGHT before ER for maximum IV gainz.

>>23325556
/VXdtdj
Anonmymom
Basically i have no access to the program or hnow it works but i do get to have webhooks or alerts for it via a friends trading view account. So i need something to take the buys/sells from trading view and turn that into trades. It works on any stock/crypto well, everything it back tests on has likes 80% trade success and is make shitloads if you follow all the buys and sells. Tesla the past 4 would have made me 90k.
Backtesting on anything works fucking great. Right now only getting alerts on soxl and gme but i can get alerts for whatever.
I just really need a way to take the webhook info and somehow get that to a system that enacts the trades

>>23324821
300 shares @ 9.82. Original cost basis was 8.05, but I started swinging when I noticed it spikes and the morning and crabs down the rest of the day. I don't plan on swinging anymore and only trimming when I hit my price target. I also have Jan 2021 calls and I purchase the occasional weekly if I'm feeling ballsy.

>>23325301
I don't even use discord really, I just have one to join troubleshooting servers if I have issues with debugging a script I'm writing or something. It's not some huge social milestone to have one. I don't have any social media and neither does she aside from Pinterest if that counts. Her insta has no posts, she just follows cute animal accounts on it. You can find socially autistic girls too, it's just going to be inherently harder since they're spending as much time indoors as you are. Try to go to events that you really care about, and if you're lucky you'll meet likeminded individuals. Only advice I can give really, but I know it's dumb luck for me. Meeting this girl is the only truly happy lucky break I've been granted in this life, and I treasure her more than anything. Al the riches in the world would be worthless without her, so for me I've already made it. I hope you find happiness as well, anon. I had given up and it came when I least expected it. Heading off to shower with her now before we continue reading Higurashi together again.

Take care of yourself, anon. Please don't lose hope.

>>23325622
because stonks are a jew ran scam and they look out to protect their own.
https://junto.investments/short-squeezes-and-market-corners/

How do I reconcile my love of stonks with my deeply held personal beliefs

>>23325731
I guess its there to protect the down side more but holy shit how crazy that would have been to sit there and watch it unfold

All that Biden stuff is picking up pretty fast now, and the Trumps administration just put out an official statement about it and Julianni is talking about using RICO

next weeks going to be red as fuck

>>23325602
I'll add it to the links for when I bake. What section should it be under? Educational? Misc?

>>23325790
>tfw not jewish enough
hot damn thats horrifying

>>23325850
probably educational/free charts
/smg/ never really had link resources for options though, maybe we should make a new category for that?

>>23325882
No
new people should get into options

>>23325887
AHHH
mean to say shouldnt

>>23325790
>https://junto.investments/short-squeezes-and-market-corners/
>But large short squeezes, like the Volkswagen or KaloBios stories, do not necessarily originate from a market corner or takeover attempt. The vast majority of short squeezes simply happen in situations where a signification part of a company’s float is shorted by a group of short-sellers who have a very different view of the company compared to the market. And when something happens that forces short-sellers to debunk that view, the exit door is sometimes smaller than needed at the given time.

>The obvious recent case is what multiple media outlets call the “Tesla mania”. For years, it’s been in fashion to either love or to hate Tesla and Elon Musk’s leadership style, and the stock has thus been heavily shorted ever since the beginning of 2011 of which the percentage of the company’s float shorted has fluctuated between 20% and 35% since 2015.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>23325887
I don't think you're the real kneepad. I'm pretty sure he died years ago.

>>23325882
Maybe risk management? RKG bakes a majority of the threads though, so she'd have to add them to her links as well.

>>23325909
I agree, but its just simply another tool link the other stuff in the OP links. Can't hurt to have it in there. A lot of people don't even look at those links anyway.

>>23325386
>>23325425
What is your current trade? Bhe said he did something specfic before

>>23325425
In love? I hope ill be so lucky as to fall in love again

every red day pushes me closer to biden. trump can't save the economy

When will shit hit the fan /smg/?

my insurance policy in case we get bogged around the election. What is everyone else doing?

>>23325909
ToO LatE

>futures

>twitter turns up the orwellian dial too much
>congress on their ass about to get CEO subpoenaed
>stock goes up anyway
how the fuck does this even work are they purposefully pumping it or wtf
how the fuck

>>23325684
>"loss" as in taking a smaller profit than hoped
You ready to hear a pessimistic scenario?
Another earnings miss will send the price back down to $8.
Even with great earnings, people think it's over and take profits after the holiday console sales. This happened to RKT after a good but unsustainable quarter, and TACO yesterday. Price could go to $7.
The $40 target doesn't make sense until the company shows sustained subscriber growth outside of the holiday season.
I think there's a big chance of having to hold on at $7 after next earnings, waiting for the CHWY style pivot to finally pay off. If it does, the short squeeze will make history. If it doesn't, we'll be lucky to sell for $5.

>>23326144
twitter massively undervalued for tech stock
look at it price
it been smashed and shorted for 3 years even though it biggest social media tool still out there

>>23326144
No idea. Its insanity.

>>23325792
The gains made through stocks will help you better realize your vision.

>>23326168
97% of GME is owned by institutions, so paper hands won't be able to affect the outcome regardless.
There is no way this stock goes back down to $8, don't kid yourself.

>>23326170
like seriously O_O
twitter been in accumulation pattern for THREE FREAKING YEARS
it going to hit 100 in no time whenever it pumps

>>23326168
$40+ targets are not fundamentals based, doesn't need a turnaround for those.
and yes killing momentum in Q3 is my #1 concern see: >>23324584

>>23326170
>>23326205
how is twitter a tech stock? does it have AI like facebook? it doesnt even have other avenues of revenue as far as I know. it's a piece of shit

>>23326168
consider the value trap perspective when gross margins are better than Best Buy and price-to-sales ratio is even lower with future prospects to stop the declining revenues
it'd be more plausible if we were still under $10 without the lifeline that Microsoft partnership introduced

>>23326234
>>23326205
I assume user is the product has to be the driving force for getting paid for them but im a pleb
>>23326178
I lost a few hundred in puts in a matter of hours so I gtfo before it got worse

>>23325335
how the fuck would you catch it at $300 or $250 or even $200? just set trailing stop loss for like $25 or something like that and expect it to never go down that much without rising far above?
I really want to catch the spike of GME when it eventually happens

>>23326225
>>23326196
the big holders bought knowing the company was in the negative already but I forget what it was. how much less negative is expected to stay on track? I have no idea how to gauge that or what someone who spent tens of millions expects to happen in a few months. if its anywhere in the positive as retail that would be amazing to me

>>23326302
sell in chunks
put trailing stops in chunks, but trailing stops are going to useless when shit will jump up and down massively.
don't fall for the mindset that you have to sell all or nothing (unless you only have like 100 shares or something and you pay commission costs)

The only thing that is for certain with all past short squeezes (assuming GME even does this, shorts could just cover gradually instead of covering into an infinite squeeze) is that taking profit on the 1st day is the worst. Being a bit too late is still better than being too early, pic related

>>23326367
manually selling in chunks seems like the best way to lose to quick price movements though, right?

>>23326196
You're saying institutions held on when RKT had its earnings dump? I'd like to know if that's true.
>>23326225
>$40+ targets are not fundamentals based
Wrong. It's based on retail comparable as outlined in one of the early Seeking Alpha pieces.
That's why it's my end of 2021 target and it depends on the CHWY pivot.
A short squeeze is still possible. I'm being careful not to conflate the two scenarios when thinking about price targets. The $40 target I cited is after demonstrating successful quarter-over-quarter subscriber growth AFTER the holidays.
>>23326243
Getting a piece of digital sales has always been part of the speculative gambit. The MSFT announcement made the deal certain, but it's still speculative until the partnership demonstrates POST-holiday POST-release strength. That's when speculative Best Buy valuation becomes actual Best Buy valuation.

Visa and MasterCard chads, what do we think of the P/E ratios?

>>23326170
>undervalued
>37b market cap
>never made a profit

>>23326195
I guess. I have made votive donations in the past to a monastery in my state.

The Monastery of Christ in the Desert

>>23326302
>>23326367
i should add though

that infinite squeeze is the wet dream scenario, we could see something like BBBY instead on a larger scale (gradual covering upwards) or OSTK in the best case scenario if the shorts still have the leisure to cover gradually, no reason to cover during an infinite squeeze if they can afford to wait the next week to cover

Who knows though? If shorts keep burning cash to pay interest, they might actually get a margin call eventually and be forced to liquidate if the stock price goes up +50% or something
They are borrowing from bigger boys than them and they want their money safe

>>23326302
The spikes on short squeeze charts likely lasted for a few seconds. You're going to sell during one of the consolidations and don't ever regret not selling for $1000. If you manage to sell in chunks at $300 or $100 or even $75 during a real squeeze, you won.

>>23326407
>what do we think of the P/E ratios?
look at growth, P/E ratio by itself is a useless measure. Amazon itself was a P/E ratio of fucking 1000 at one point and you need to look at other factors

a "low" P/E ratio of 5 can also be expensive as fuck for a company that doesn't have any prospects for growth

>>23326421
someone on the RK chat claims that he has a friend at an MM and that $18 will begin causing close-outs. That seemed plausible with Justin, but grain of salt etc.

We going green on monday boys

alright bros give it to me straight, is this shit ever coming back? are growth stocks peaking? seems like this has to go back up.

>>23325753
If you niggers help me that would be awesome.
I’ll post in the discord stonk buys/sells(soxl, tqqq, gme)
I figure i can effectively and actively day trade soxl/tqqq without breaking daytrade rules cause they have inverse funds.
Buy/sell at your own risk(this is me posting my own experiment) but it will show you guys it works and maybe someone will help me setup autotrading via tradingviews webhooks as thanks.
I had two buys on friday and like 4 trades on thursday so its not super active. System works on a 3 tier system every tier you x10 money so to do the system you need to be able to go Initialx10x10x10. In all back testing of random stuff it was pretty rare to go to the third and still VERY profitable without it.

do I buy DDS?

>>23326386
well that's my plan, i'd rather average out my profits than fuck myself over by selling my entire position too early

>>23326416
Twitter has been profitable for 2 quarters of the last 4

>>23324055
Questions for swing traders: what is your process of doing technical analysis?

It's going to be fucking insanity when the squeeze happens. Hope I'm here for it and not napping. I remember when this shit first spiked to 11 and the chaos afterwards to 14. Some faggots sold at 11, not world ending but imagine that on the infinity squeeze? I'm scared brahs

>>23326522
Lurk here till someone spoon feeds me DD.

>>23326493
i understand the DDS play but I can't justify doing it over GME even if DDS and BBBY has managed to outperform GME within some time periods

>>23324350
damn tho i want that doggo on muh dick like that

Realistically, this would be the last time to buy tech stocks for cheap before earnings IF there is no catalyst to cause the market to dump. I assume that most buyers will start strategizing when to buy tech stocks early next week. Amazon should be the leading indicator to determine how the rest of big tech performs for their earnings dates.

Beautiful.

>>23325371
Damn. I'll probably make it to around 500 or so by December. Grats!

>>23326589
>>23325371

Redpill me on SRAC

>>23326585
Gib clf fundies or whatever youre so bullish about

>>23326522
literally just roll the dice on shitstocks posted here
see CBAT, CREG

what happens next

>>23326684
it's a SPAC, don't jump into that shit until you understand what SPACs and the risks associated with them

>>23326743
Depends on the company

What shares have you guys been scalping lately? Aside from GME

>>23326748
>>23326748
I know what SPACs are. Who/what are they trying to buy? Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you don't want to spoonfeed.

>>23326684
Orbital servicing, delivering satellites to intended orbits through water propulsion, orbital debris cleanup, refueling and repairing satellites, asteroid mining.

Read this https://momentus.space/vision/

Why are people saying that GME's revenue decline is mainly due to being at the last year of the console generation? From pic related revenue fell far less in the year before ps4 released. Q4 2019, which should have been big for Gamestop, were dismal compared to previous years. It is clear that online shopping and other retailers have eaten into its revenue, even if somewhat overstated.

>>23326764
SRAC anon just says buy SRAC, he doesn't actually share DD

>>23326768
it's a mixture of things, it's a chore to list them all out

the shareholders themselves put out a better bear thesis than the bears themselves
>https://web.archive.org/web/20200614200223/https://f0c5bbc0-bc47-4244-ac04-93b6e88189dc.filesusr.com/ugd/b68ea3_2bb819bb66064decaae48fbb198ae0ac.pdf

>>23326487
https://www.etf.com/VTV#fit
>Holdings
You win if there's a sector pivot, you lose if Nasdaq remains king.

>>23325406
Oil. Gonna have to grease all them robots.

>>23325301
>entering late

>>23326585
Post options volume

if we get a short squeeze out GME, how long could we theoretically have before it massively declines again? I've lost a lot of money in other stocks by not taking profits in the past

>>23324055
new to stocks. how hard are taxes to do when they wanna collect? right now im writing on a piece of paper thats almost full of every trade ive ever made and keeping track of the ones that have made me money, then adding them all up with the assumption thats the value i pay tax on. doesnt seem like robinhood does that for me and i dont wanna get fucked by the tax man in april.

>>23326790
yeah true. just hard for me to imagine how something like AAPL is going to maintain its growth rate. doesn't seem very feasible. then you have all the antitrust threats on msft/goog, etc

>>23326574
No, wait until the post earnings crash to buy tech cheapies. I sold my aapl and msft lots I bought in 2018 today to buy back in. Price target for November aapl $65 msft $135

>>23327050
writing on paper?!
I don't use robinhood, but surely you can export an excel with your trades?

>>23327011
Don't think there is any real way to know, you already saw one anon saying hold through the first day but I think selling in chunks is the safest bet.

>>23327050
Robinhood will send you tax documents at the end of the year, or at least before taxes are due. whether you're using tax software or filling out tax documents manually, its literally "plug box 1 into box a" type shit

>>23327085
excel is only on my resume to get me jobs. ive used it like twice. just found my whole account history on the robinhoods actual website, but it doesnt say if the sells were for a profit. right now i know which ones are and arent but im pretty sure im gonna lose track at some point.

>>23325774
Oh, I'm not without hope, also I'm not one of the anons looking for love. I've already gone through that life experience, gotten married...

It's just things like discord, which I have literally never used, that other younger people are using to massive effect in their lives stand as a marker that show me just how far away I am from being even remotely "with it" anymore. I don't even have a smartphone. It just feels weird because in my mind's eye I still think of myself as being in my 20s, when people who are actually in their 20s today are living in a culture that's pretty alien to me.

>>23327104
oh shit. perfect. guess ill start going wild then.

>>23327050
also any realized losses will lower the dollar amount you pay taxes on. if you make $1000 on a good trade(realized), then lose $250 on a bad trade(realized), you pay taxes on $750 in earnings. any unrealized gains/losses aren't taxed, you have to realize them to be taxed. you can look up loss harvesting, too, could come in handy at some point

>>23327104
Here's a question: if you lost money for the year, do you still technically owe? This will be my first year having to claim a loss in anything

>>23327124
the other anon should be right regarding tax documents.
But really consider using excel or google sheets instead of paper to keep track of your trades/etc. You don't need to use anything beyond simple addition, subtraction and sums. It auto calculating everything makes life way easier.
Also back-ups, access from anywhere etc.
It's 2020 anon.

>>23327163
>If your losses exceed your gains, you can write off up to $3,000 of the excess losses each year against your income

https://www.fool.com/knowledge-center/how-much-to-write-off-on-your-taxes-with-a-loss-in.aspx

>>23327168
i'll get a google doc up and running before years end.
>>23327163
>>23327176
that was sort of my next question thanks. i was worried if i lost 1000 then earned 1000 digging my way out of the hole that id still have to pay tax on it. thanks.

>>23327176
Perfect, take this mallet as a token of appreciation to you all non-frens

Invest in AMC. It's literally free money.

First time here, Any millionaires here?

>>23327197

People buying tech stocks in the current time, what is your objective? What are you expecting to get? You think a $1.5t company is ever going to double? You think a 150 pe company will ever catch its earnings up to its price without crashing?
Value investing will always win . Remember that Apple and Microsoft were value stocks not even 5 years ago

>>23327197
I already lost money on CINE I'm not falling for your legacy media tricks again

>>23326766
Huh. I work in aerospace and know a fair bit about space systems. The specific impulse on their engine is like 700s according to people on NSF... plus it's going to form new ticker after merge. This is like pre-IPO buying almost.

Fuck it I'll buy $500 of it on monday and scale in.

>>23327197

Nah. I'm all in CLF calls faggot

>>23327252
>wait until the post earnings crash to buy tech cheapies
>Visa and MasterCard chads, what do we think of the P/E ratios?
>Remember that it’s impossible to beat the market and investing in passive index funds is the ONLY way to make it
>all in on HD leaps
yea, no.

>>23327333
Post volume on your options

Is anyone baking a new thread or do I need to take over?

>>23327252
lines only go UP

>>23327252
>he thinks companies poised the most to take advantage of advances in AI, machine learning, etc WONT make enormous leaps in the next decade

>>23326484

Based fat chick poster

Once the thread hits 300 I'll bake

>>23327318
As someone who works in the industry, do you think this is something revolutionary? I'm trying to gauge how much to put into it.

>>23324092
>>23325371
>>23326684
>>23326766
>>23327318

They're literally already under investigation.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/merger-alert-amci-lgc-srac-204000942.html

>>23327521
All spaqs go though that. it’s meaningless sweet summer child

>>23327549
Alright, say I believe you. Your older post seems to confirm your convictions (if that's real).

What do you think are the realistic returns on this? What do you think the risks are?

>>23326743
I think something like pic related but i'm not sure. Pic related is not intended as a serious technical prediction. It's a guess. I don't do sincere multi-move TA predictions. TA wise I expect a brief retest of the recent high before the election but can't say after that. I don't expect a strong bullish trend to form. It's crab pending election.
>>23326756
That's the nasdaq

hi /biz/ I'm banned from all the other boards I frequent so I'm just gonna say I hope you GMEchads make it

>>23327197
Cruises and theaters will be the LAST to recover

>>23327492
I mean, water is gold in space, for living purposes and for splitting into H + O for propulsion. Regular Liquid water propulsion systems are also advantageous for deep space because it doesn't need to be kept at cryogenic temperatures. It's also much denser than both liquid methane and liquid hydrogen, so your tanks are smaller for a given reaction mass.

From the business side, I don't know. NewSpace is saturated with startups right now, and even SpaceX, king of NewSpace, is running into demand issues. Without Starlink they wouldn't have enough launches to justify keeping their factory running at full shifts - they are so good at building rockets that the rest of the world hasn't caught up with demand.

On the positive side, this seems like an early as fuck company with reasonably solid and unique electric propulsion tech. If it ends up being a cheaper and more convenient option in comparison to xenon/argon ion or plasma thrusters (really expensive) then it could go far. In an asteroid mining world, it could actually be very popular, because a lot of asteroids have ice content alongside usable metals, and this would let you fuel up there without need for any kind of hydrolysis/sabatier reaction propellant conversion plant. .

>>23327492
>>23327649

I'll add though that multiple companies have ended up stillborn in the world of electric propulsion though. VASIMR springs to mind, everyone was talking about the startup working on it but it hasn't gone all that far. This looks cheaper and easier to work on, which I like. But it still stands that there has been a lot more hype than delivery in the world of space tech other than in SpaceX's stable.

>>23327569
It is a disruptive technology in the space sector so your guess is as good as mine. I would guess 10-100x return if they can execute on their business plan over the next several years.

There are inherent risks in all securities. They could fail to execute or many other things could theoretically go wrong. Orbital rocketry is difficult. They already have big name customers, LMT, NASA among others. Ridesharing on SpaceX rockets. I’ll take my chances with this one. Just thought I’d share my insight on something in the early stages. I really don’t care to shill anything to mostly degenerates on a basket weaving forum.

>>23327611
feel free to shitpost here

>>23327492
not him but while I'm not sure their niche is something necessary right now (the most I've read that they can do at this moment is reposition satellites into new orbits instead of deactivating them and launching new ones) it is absolutely a niche that will be necessary going forward into stellar expansion.
aside from the december pump when everyone sees their tech going on a spacex rocket you have a longer position you can hold where it'll most likely get bought out in 2024 if they can establish a reliable supply chain

>>23327611
Weekends are slow, any posting is welcome here.

>>23327611
how'd you get the ban hammer?

>>23327711
I bet he was sneedposting. It’s always sneedposting.

>>23327711
off-topic posting, shitty xfinity router/modem combo won't let me change IPs and my entire county's mobile IPs got rangebanned because of that discord an hero spambot

>>23327733
Buy a 4chan pass and use a VPN. Problem solved.

How do I profit from the inevitable ayyy invasion?

Dfen? UFO? Lockheed Martin?

>>23327676
oh I also forgot to mention they have proof of concept of their water plasma engine so it's not vaporware
>>23327745
>giving the gookmoot money
that dude can honestly straight up go fuck himself he has no idea what he's doing or doesn't give a fuck or both

>>23327611
Hail, friend!

>>23327649
>>23327667
>>23327676

Thanks for the insight. I guess I'll buy a few hundred shares and see what happens. Sounds like even if all the space stocks don't actually, necessarily all end up being required, might be the new crypto for a minute, pending how aggressively SpaceX markets themselves.

Do you have any takes on oil or energy in general? My Schlumberger position got slaughtered today, and XOM is on life support. Halliburton is probably the next to go. I was trying to hold out for an oil demand explosion post-C19, but NextEra is trouncing them it seems like. I see Tesla's on the road everywhere I go.

My heart tells me to get the fuck out of oil (and energy in general until people know what the next big thing is), but my brain tells me we're still at least 8-10 years away from a full-blown renewable energy revolution, and in that time, oil will make a comeback. Thoughts?

>>23324639
its a thread tranny

>>23327749
You spend everything ahead of time and when it happens you bend over and kiss your ass good bye. That's like what my grandfather told me.

>>23327749
Sell drugs to the aliens.

>>23327799
Pretty sure they're already here.

One day they'll just casually let us know but life will likely go on 40% as usual. Pretty sure the market will exist to the bitter end

Fresh
>>23327817
>>23327817
>>23327817

>>23327812
if the aliens full-on invade we're well past the point of stonks and you're making a bank run for guns and ammunition

>>23327812
That's mad pretty, is it a colorized real event or a fake?

Why does 4chan use the worst advertisers... like they're advertising duradry... i mean I use a product marketed for women. Its scent free somehow hides the funk. Socks you gotta wash it out. Cause it irritates skin, but the company I used lost all propriatarities and now charges 13 dollars for 3 ounces when the product is only worth 3 or 4 dollars for twice that much.

>>23327838
It is real, it happens when rocket launches happen just after sunset so that when the rocket is at high altitude the sunlight is able to catch it again and it refracts off the water vapour in the exhaust.

I mean you've probably never bought perfumes or learned how to make them... its basically 70 percent alcohol with essence and esters.. ugh. Surfactants used from everything from clothing to floors dishes and toilet bowls. Eventuality they end up into lotions but how do we profit off of these products.

>>23327910
Shitbi forgot I already made a pile off of this.

You lads putting, calling or just getting the popcorn ready?

>>23326455
The problem is many people think PE doesn't matter for a company by the virtue of it being a tech company that they assume will become as successful as Amazon while ignoring the many other companies that failed. Basically, these people are outright ignoring everything except their imagination.