/biz/ - Business & Finance

not selling!

I told you to invest in Sta, frens.

I'm really sorry about your loss. I hope everyone is okay.

>>23296727
Are you delusional?

>>23296749
I also hold STA
But it basically is the same shitcoin. I just should have bought XMR

I never understood how enforcement of decisions could actually happen. Wouldn't the offending party just go "fuck you lol"?

Project not needed.

wow. can i take kleros to kleros court?

>>23296935
This

>>23296680
ME LOVE KLEORS I AM GOING TO TAKE YOUR IP TO COURT AND THEN UNMASK YOU, HOPEFULLY SIRS U R IN MUMBAI SO THE KLEROS POTTY COURT AND ENFORCEMENT SQUAD CAN FIND YOU MY VINDALOO STREET SHITTING FRIEND

Meh, made $2k by selling recently. Wish I had sold the top but you can never tell where stuff is going to go. Just happy I got get a few dominatrix sessions now with my profits.

theres literally never been a better time to buy this coin

>>23296837
Yes. Courts only work with threat of imprisonment and force. Kleros is the most retarded project in crypto, and that's saying a lot.

>>23297111
Uhh...no, they just take the funds back. Like civil court...

>>23297153
How is Kleros going to take funds out? I would assume the offending party would have to agree to put funds in, and they would no chance in hell do that.

>>23297153
Civil Court only works with the threat of force or imprisonment

>>23297315
the come to your door

>>23297315
Kleros is the funds...

Just be thankful you're too stupid to invest in this. Holy crap, the layers of stupidity here.

>>23296680
>Years of runway (check the public finance report)
>$2m extra from selling all their UNI allocation
>Probably never have to do a sale again, I.e total supply goes down
>Clement is Vitalik tier
>Overhyped in the recent DeFi run

Yeah, PNK will be back, you fags with weak hands are gonna be on suicide watch this time next year.

BAKA

>>23297425
I feel very safe using funds that are recallable at the whim of some retarded NEETs and so do companies

>>23297111
They could always blacklist that user and area as punishment similar to how the dark web works

>>23296680
>bought at 0.19
>sold at 0.048
yeah, not falling for this scam ever again

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>23296837
>>23297111
Do you guys seriously not get it? For example, you could agree on Kleros beforehand and have funds distributed only after Kleros determines it was done correctly. You can use it to create lists, no need to enforce there. Kleros can be baked into other apps, so people using those won't have a choice to say "fuck you lol." Like with Omen. There's countless use cases for this.

>>23297625
Nobody is going to give up the value of their token to opt to use Kleros as the native currency just to be able to recall funds due to some arbitrary counsel of NEETs bro

>>23297032
Have normal sex

>>23297507
Blacklist them from what? Using kleros? Lol

>more covid lockdowns
>more people use amazon and ebay
>more online disputes
????????????

>>23297625
>There's countless use cases for this.
Yeah anon, nice cope.
There were a lot of nice inventions where people thought they would transform the world.
In the end they ammounted to nothing.
Same with Kleros. Cool idea, but absolute fucking bullshit in reality

>>23297711
Amazon and Ebay arent letting you solve their disputes.

>>23297748
Too early to say, seems to me like they'll make it into something great.

Nobody in the top 500 is selling

MY VILLAGE IS RUINED ALL OUR RUPIES ARE IN KLEROS IT'S NOT FAIR WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MOON TO $4 SIRS YOU BLODY BASTURD BICH LIES TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>23297625
Ah, I see.
Token not needed.

>>23297778
A few people in the top 100 sold, my position moved up a few spots. Probably why it dropped.

>>23297748
>that typing style
same retard who got blown the fuck out last night, fuck off

>>23297778
Is there a graph to see if the top wallets keep on buying or selling?
Like with LINK for example

>>23297778
So every small bagholder decided right then they'd all sell? Cope harder fag

>>23297809
It's fucking over when even the whales jump ships

>>23297848
Most of them haven't though, other whales bought more.

>>23296935
yes have kleros represent you

>>23296680
They got like 4 millions from the UNI airdrop, they don't care about the price, at least for now.

Literally don’t care. It’s only going up longterm. Are we pretending LINK didn’t do absolutely nothing but crab for a whole two years?
Omen disputes will rocket after the election.

>>23297848
I'm a whale (500k) and I just added another 15% to my stack.

>>23296680
dr;ns

>>23298013
Proof?

|||||| PSA: COINMARKETCAP(Binance) IS FAKE PRICE CHECK UNISWAP, COINGECKO or LIVECOINWATCH FOR REAL PRICE THEY ARE TRYING TO FOOL US INTO SELLING SO THEY CAN ACCUMULATE BEFORE THE NOV 12 BINANCE LISTING. ITS NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY DID THIS SEE PIC

>>23298054
>meme by II
what the hell is that?

>>23298082
>He doesn't know

>>23298077
Checked and truthpilled

>>23298077
>BEFORE THE NOV 12 BINANCE LISTING
Nigger, how do you come up with that bullshit?

>>23298077
>>23298190
>>23298228
wait what the fuck? I actually checked coingecko and its way higher than CMC. what gives?

Everytime i see these threads i buy more

>>23298312
Must be having a rough time then

>>23296727
>>23296986
>>23297046
>>23297315
>>23297478
>>23297625
>>23298077
What's this pattern called? I think it starts with a p....

>>23298272
Coinmarketcap/Binance is trying to trigger bots that use coinmarketcap as a price oracle into selling, notice if you list all the coinmarketcap exchanges none (not even the excluded ones) are near the reported price, it is changed manually, I can't say much more since CZ has paid our discord to not disclose the manipulation that has taken place over several months now.

They really really want kleros.

Just fuck my shit up senpai

>>23298387
Its still down a fuckload dude...

The point is that nobody on God's green earth would agree to do such a thing.

>>23298387
They really do this.

>>23298387
Yeah cmc is wrong. Like way fucking wrong.
>>23298352
Chilling. I'm down like 5% lol.

>>23296680
thanks for the tip OP. just loaded up my bags.

>>23298387
Genuine question:
Are you a schizo anon?

>>23298387

that screenshot is from march or april. dude

>>23297554
JUST

>>23296680
Do I buy another 50k now or in a week when ETH potentially crashes and takes it down even further

unironically just bought another 25k PNK

>>23296680
THE TELEGRAM HAS BEEN DELETED
>THE TELEGRAM HAS BEEN DELETED
THE TELEGRAM HAS BEEN DELETED
>THE TELEGRAM HAS BEEN DELETED
WE'VE BEEN RUGGED SELL SELL SELL FOR YOUR LIVES

>>23297786

Kek lol

the idea is just fucking stupid

>>23298788
Proof?

>>23298405
Based pnk btc anon adding to his pnk stack

I must not fud. Fud is the mind-killer. Fud is the little-death that brings total financial obliteration. I will face my fud. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

>>23298355
Seriously tho what is that pattern called?

>>23298355
Pissy Wilson? Prairie Whoopsie?

>>23296680
I told you all this is a fucking scam

>>23298405
How can someone be so rich but so dumb

>>23298849
u think i lie? Do the needful sir and accumulate before it gets listed

>>23298796
I hope so. Link?

>>23298796
Except it hasn’t
>Except it hasn’t
Wtf are you even talking about

>>23299183
OooooooooooooOoOO

>>23299183
>Do the needful sir and accumulate before it gets listed
Elaborate. What are those listing rumors

>>23296680
it's flat lining, there goes my 1k, fuck you pajeets.

>>23298988
double top

>>23299103
What's dumb? I'm still up 100k on cryptos mostly thanks to LINK. PNK is the only coin that reminds me of LINK back in 2017. I'll take my chances

>>23299385
Why don't you have any LINK if you're here since 2017?

>>23299414
Because I sold out at $10? I made 30x, why would I still hold? I missed the subsequent rally then selloff after that but who cares.

>>23299503
Ignore him. You’ve got a good stack

>>23299103
>so rich
kek

PAJEER PAJEET

PNK MAKES YOU SHIT IN A STREET

PAJEET PAJEET

YOUR PNK MAKES YOU STOMP YOUR FEET

PAJEET PAJEET

YOU WISH YOU WERE A NEET

PAJEET PAJEET

NOW ITS TIME TO SHIT IN A STREET

PAJEET PAJEET

YOU ARE LIKE A RAGIE WAGIE, STOMP YOU FEET AND SHIT IN A STREET

BUY CHAINLINK OR YOU WILL BE BEAT

>200 million pnk still not in circulation
>binance want 100 million pnk for listing
>chinks using bots to hammer down the price so they can accumilte
am comf

>>23299931
What's your price target EOY 2022?

>>23298988
>Seriously tho what is that pattern called?
pajeeted\

>>23296680
SIRS

>>23299183
$600 bucks makes you a whale in this shitcoin

Mmm do I but another 50k boys?
t. 350k PNK average buy of ~0.03

>>23298077
Price is 5 cents in uniswap. WTF is happening...

Keep selling you fucking retards I’m never letting go.

do the needful sirs

>>23296745

>>23300261
this. Im riding Kleros to zero or 4 bucks. If it can make 4 bucks it can make 10.

>>23299931
zero proof, no screenshot of devs discussing it only proof is a schizo thinking the price is being manipulated because a couple of nonames memed about it half a year ago
>>23299988
exactly 1(one) cent sir

>>23298355
peepeepoopoo

the kleros court meme is fun at least there's that

>didn't sell at $0.17

>>23299183
Jesus fucking christ, I gotta get more at this price before anyone knows what the fuck is up for the next news cycle.
Genuinely curious if youre holding more than me. Hopefully not after my next buy-in.

>>23300121
Smells like the LINK early days all over again. I cant wait for your wojak threads anon.

devs, expect a hearing in kleros court soon

>>23299183
Hey everyone, look at this fucking idiot.

>>23300313
It has to break through a ceiling of every single PNK autist on /biz/ at $4, that’s when everyone buying here currently will sell. 4Moon prophesy has unintentionally made that the top eta idk 2022 or something, if you don’t sell at $4 when it eventually comes enjoy having a similar 70% drop like we’re having now if you continue to hodl

>>23299183
>Pinakoin
Based

>>23300488
Nice dubs, youre def right. I DCA out anyway unless it goes parabolic so it wont matter

>>23300488
This. But if you get a large enough stack now, there’s no harm in holding a certain percentage well after the inevitable $4 selloff to see what it does afterwards.

Blatant price manipulating. I'm going to add more to my stack now, and another buy in the post election crash when ETH hopefully tanks.

>>23300488
>selling when the coin literally pays you eth for adjudicating
anyone seriously considering selling PNK instead of just earning eth and selling that is going to pink wojak no matter what price the sell at.

Sirs my tuk tuk needs repairs i needs the Kleros to moons please Vishnu please Asura please

>same supply as link
>only ranked near ~200
>solves an actual issue
>said issue generates a ton of revenue every year
>only $4
Especially during a golden bull run, there's no reason for PNK to not be at least $10.

>>23298077
where does nov 12th come from?

>>23300889
The fact that PNK is the same supply as link is some Illuminati shit so it’s destined to go up. I mean some autists here made that thing showing BTC/ETH/LINK and then the last piece of the puzzle was PNK and then they end up having the same supply too? It’s destined

>>23296680
What happened to kleros? Should I buy while it's low?

>>23301127
>same supply as link
Neck yourself loser
Total supply is 764.626.704

>>23301245
Based retard

>>23300228
What’s happening is the the prices on CMC and Coingecko are splitting from each other like the sea parts from the coast before a massive tsunami of causing massive death, and in your case as a PNK owner, endless PNK Wojacks as the price crashes into obscurity

>>23301699
Oh.

Still not selling.

>>23301127
You are so fucking dumb lmfao.
Link has a million potential use cases. Your French SJW shitcoin has one or maybe two.
Link has good marketing and a Chad team. Your frog shitcoin has a team composed of basedboys and some mulatta bitch who don't know how to market.

This piece of shit is unironically going to zero. Nobody trusts the retarded team except other retards.

>>23298355
Pajeet coin

>>23302138
Capped for future generations.

>>23301127
The difference is that LINK has actual use-cases wheras PNK is a joke memecoin that no one will ever use

>>23302138
Sounds familiar.

>>23297752
They will once they find out they can stop paying a jeet and let Kleros do everything for them. Same for Paypal bud.

>>23298387
>y
can someone link me to this server
i can't believe the price is being manipulated so much

>>23302215
What use case does LINK have? It is literally not used in a single fucking integration today. None. The token itself is completely worthless, it is the chainstink company that does everything with dapps for $ valued contracts that don’t use ANY smart contracts. The token is literally never used
The only time it is there is when chainstink pays some of their own approved and KYC nodes some of their own token made out of thin air. That’s it. These nodes are btw also done through a regular legal agreement with regular dollar amount there, the token payments are almost nonexistent
“””staking””” is nowhere in sight either
So fuck off with your token use cases and link because that shit is literally vaporware. Don’t confuse the company with the token

>>23302374
Will you continue to believe that Link was just luck after time will prove you were wrong?

>>23302374
Every smart contract will need trustless oracles. Literally every, single, one. Read the writing on the wall. SEC has prioritized total decentralization as a pre-requisite for a token not being a security. This means any single point of failure, such as a monolithic oracle, is a potential legal liability for legit projects.

By comparison, your shittoken does what again? Oh, right, a pajeet NEET court. Very impressive. So revolutionary.

>>23302446
>>23302374
LINK and PNK are both needed, don't fight.

>>23302446
What else is going to handle subjective data, LINK can't do it.

>>23302446
>Oh, right, a pajeet NEET court.
>Very impressive
It is indeed. T
Companies will adopt a CODR once it is fully functional. If you would not be such a newfag who bought LINK because you came here in 2019, then you could see that. But you don't think for yourself and rather follow the hype.
CODR is the next step and there was already big interest in it several years ago, but there was just no way how you could execute this properly. Untill now.
Simple ODR are not any better than normal offline Dispute Resolutions, because they are still slow and expensive.
Kleros is the future. Especially in a decentralized Economy where no middle man will exist anymore.
If you can not see the writing on the wall, then you must be a typical midwit.
Because sub 80 IQ retards as well as 130+ IQ anons, are clearly able to see how Kleros will transform a whole space

>>23302446
Lmao you said it yourself! Trust less. Literally ALL nodes in chainlink are trusted and KYCd. You’re so far in your own asshole you can’t see your own contradictions. Kleros has already provided trustless human answers, like see case 302.
>>23302427
I swear on all the gains I’ve made and will
make that I will take back my words if chainlink creates the decentralized, trust less oracle network it has promised. However, right now it is just a tech services company that provides on-chain data availability services just as any other service provider. I’m even going to admit that chainlink is doing really good in providing these services and they have given a standard of what that would look like, but it is all centralized services. This goes against all what crypto stands for, but fine, let them make that $$$ while the industry requires a stop gap. But their token is literally worthless. I mean it is used for NOTHING. It doesn’t even have its own chain where you could pay for tx fees with it. Nothing. There is not a single place where you can spend only LINK or something that link was created for. Everything that you buy is not only vaporware, but chainstink doesn’t even have any plans to incorporate it. they plan on just providing their services, and btw none of the revenue is going to token holders either.
0 value shit coin.

At least pnk is actually able to be staked to actually provide decentralized answers and actually gives stakers revenue TODAY

>>23302223
HAHA what a nigger

10/10 FUD thread, when we hit 0.025c I'll be sure to grab 500k

how the fuck this dumped almost 40 percent?! i thought i bought the bottom already

>>23302638
How big is your bag and where do you see the price going and when?

>>23302138
>Link has a million potential use cases. Your French SJW shitcoin has one or maybe two.
lmoa
PNK is unironically MORE useful than LINK. You're just too low IQ to realise it.

>>23302223
Thats actually not similar at all. His concern was communication, not use cases. I do realize that reading comprehension can be hard for a nigger, though

>>23296837
i don't hold any pnk but the idea is the platform implements it

say for example a fiverr clone implements kleros. then you pay some guy 5 bucks through fiverr to make a logo for you. the five bucks goes into a smart contract.

if he makes the logo and sends it to you, all good, then you confirm it worked out and the money is released from the smart contract and given to him.

but if something goes wrong, like the guy disappears, or you try to pull one over by saying he didn't give you a logo when he did, or the logo is complete dogshit (beyond even what $5 might get you), then it goes to kleros court.

indian jurors are selected in kleros court and then look at the evidence (i.e. you might say there's no fucking logo, but then the guy submits evidence he did make a logo, which the court looks at) to make a judgement about who to award the $5 to. through a complicated process jurors are incentivized not to lie or make random judgements (you'll have to read the whitepaper for that). so kleros is an implementation of an oracle for subjective questions that a computer can't easily answer

>>23298077
I checked CMC and saw that -36% dildo, but the metamask price was almost the same as yesterday. This price is bullshit. I even checked TradingView.

>tfw when bought the top of LINK sold at a loss then bought the top of PNK
I don't think crypto is for me bros. Never selling this one

>>23303539
His post said
>Link has good marketing and a Chad team. Your frog shitcoin has a team composed of basedboys and some mulatta bitch who don't know how to market.
That's the part I was referring to. People complained a ton about Chainlink for having "bad marketing" early on.

>>23303450
I am in top 100 and this shit is going to $10-100 unironically, except it will take them about 5-7 years at least.
Reasoning: while I’m confident this will be the defacto dispute resolution layer for all blockchain based freelancer job sites, it will take 1-2 years for such sites appear with a working product, another 1-2 years for them to get traction, another 1-2 years to get general adoption, and another 1-2 years to solidify themselves in the market. By that time, there will be a couple of behemoth dapps that will all be using Kleros for their disputes. The court will see thousands of cases a day and the amount of people that want to get in on that dispute resolution revenue will be in hundreds of thousands, all of which will drive the price through the roof. You have to understand that this requires vision and Kleros dudes are building a product that is needed by the future dapps, not even current ones, although linguo and hyve are about to go live, but they’re just initial prototypes. If you can’t see it, I don’t know what to tel you. You saw with your own eyes the Omen resolution and adoption, Vitalik shilling pnk several times etc. in general the human aspect on blockchains is a huge gap, and Kleros is one of the few that’s bringing it on. The gamble here is on the team, not the use case, and these guys are perhaps some of the most qualified, oldest dev teams in crypto that is well recognized within the crypto sphere, legal tech and fucking governments which is evident by the $ millions in several grants they received, which by the way paid several times over their operating costs. You faggots might not know, but Kleros has been around since 2018.
t. bought during the sale and sat through the retarded “no volume”, “pajeet scam” etc fud

bought more

>>23302446
>>23302138
You're a retard

>>23304073
Appreciate the answer. Do you think we can see movement towards the 10$ range in the next 1-2 years? I have about 250k PNK already. I’d rather have 5$ by mid year 2022 than 50$ in 7 years

>>23298067
Why would you need proof? It's only $25k, desu.

>>23304227
Unless there is a boom of services that need things like Kleros just like DeFi exploded this year, don’t count on it. This is getting some adoption in the form of gitcoin now (somewhat), a little like uniswap was in early 18. But there is no telling when this will explode
In the next 1-2 years, we will probably see $1, but not $10.

>>23304474
What do you think the upper sustainable limit on the price will be over the next decade?

>>23303603
Any decentralized project requiring human intervention is doomed by default if the rewards aren't worthy enough. It reminds me of what FORS wants to achieve, you'll be basically asking NEETS, degenerate gamblers and other lazy people who are in crypto to have a serious look on business mistakes, etc. Even if the jurors or participants were to be nicely compensated for their efforts, it's not as if everyone has the time or the mental acuity necessary to make proper decisions. Kleros and other similar projects MUST BE centralized. Even if it leads to corruption and stuff

>>23304548
a lot of FOSS decentralized projects do ok though. just look at linux

>>23304619
I'm a gentoofag but I fail to see the point here.

>>23304548
you'd be right but you forget that decisions in kleros are both incentivized and punished by financial means. nobody has the mental acuity to make proper decisions, unless they're getting paid for the right answer and get penalized for the wrong answer. then you better believe people will make the correct answer, which is already evident by over 400 cases solved by kleros, the vast majority of which were not very trivial
>>23304524
decade is very far and hard to look at, but, gun to the head -- around $100, putting kleros at $100 bil marketcap at most. this is assuming crypto will take off like an insane whore and kleros is in top 10, both of which I strongly believe in.
lower mark -- $10

>>23296680
I can't decide to buy more today or wait and see if it's lower tomorrow.

>>23304744
easy -- buy half today and half tomorrow. never time the market unless it is a bulk sale, but even then it can backfire

>>23304744
Always have a job and earn money. It’s the only way you can always buy and the only way to truly “make it”. I would put in 33% today, 33% in a month after the election, and ALWAYS have 33% cash. Always. Especially in a market as volatile as crypto. But hopefully in a few months you’ll have earned another 33% from your job and can put that in again.