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>> No.23196568
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23196568

>Biden/Harris - You don't deserve to know
winning campaign strategy

>> No.23196600

GME
WKHS
NAK

Am I missing anything?

>> No.23196602

>>23196558
>Links for Bears
>suicide
>dildos
Does this mean that bears are tranners?

>> No.23196603

i want to kiss reluctant kneepad girl

>> No.23196612
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>>23196568
I.. I don't understand the context

>> No.23196617
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will frugalism help me buy more stocks?

>> No.23196618

>>23196600
Clf

>> No.23196620

>>23196600
Logic

>> No.23196624
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>>23196247
>>23196297
>>23196380
to be clear the 43% capital gains tax is for people making over 1 million dollars a year. They plan on making long term capital gains count as short term for people making 1m a year or more. As far as I can tell capital gains tax would not change for us poor.

>> No.23196639

>>23196624
Those people will leave with their wealth

>> No.23196643

>>23196600
RMG DPHC are part of the horse deal plus one other company I cant remember that will make the bodies

>> No.23196650

I want a qt tomgirl gf who only lives to be bred by me and worship my cock.

>> No.23196652

>>23196612
https://mobile.twitter.com/thejcoop/status/1314929793524215808
based biden telling plebs to fuck off

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23196654

What are your honest opinions on the daily chart of SOX?

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>>23196603

>> No.23196666

>>23196600
is WKHS viable without a usps contract? thinking about cashing out monday right before close just incase they dont get the deal

>> No.23196670

>>23196624
Ah yes, I saw a Twitter checkmark account say that so it's probably true

>> No.23196675

>>23196624
But I'm a temporarily embarrassed millionaire until GME squeezes, WKHS gets the contract, and NAK gets the mine.

>> No.23196679

>>23196624
>not change for us poor.
>company/boss gets taxed more
>lays me off cause he can't afford it

>> No.23196680

>>23196639
and go where? its even worse elsewhere

>> No.23196693
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23196693

Any reason not to buy like 100 shares of AT&T?

>> No.23196699

>>23196624

And you think those people making 1M+/yr will not have exit plans or an army of accountants armed with mitigation strategies to safeguard their wealth?

>> No.23196706

>>23196624
>these faggots actually think they won't increase taxes for everyone else after demonizing "rich" people to get elected
Every fucking time. Retards fall for the trojan horse. Motherfucker, these politicians ARE the fucking rich elites and they only benefit from taking your money to line their own pockets.

>> No.23196708

>>23196650
Have sex.

>> No.23196718

>>23196639
>>23196699
are you implying the rich don't already avoid taxes at all costs?

>>23196670
no... i just looked at the biden tax plan PDF for a good 10 minutes

>>23196679
just be a chad that works for a small business that barely scrapes by like me

>> No.23196721

>>23196680
Europe, Australia... If you think the situation here is bad you're wrong.

>> No.23196744

>>23196680
>>23196721
australia is set to be the #2 currency in the world by playing by the US rules

>> No.23196746

>>23196718
>small business that barely scrapes by like me
Did you even see that picture? >>23196247
>39.6%
You're not gonna be working there for much longer

>> No.23196750

>>23196693
why does the volume just stop in 2020?

>> No.23196764

>>23196718
Mhm mhm, let's see what happens if he wins. Increasing taxes on everyone after promising to only increase it on the rich is not something out of the ordinary for these kind of people

>> No.23196780

>>23196750
Bullish divergence

>> No.23196785

>>23196693
isnt AT&T internet and shit? how is it doing so poorly in a corona world?
take a look at its fundamentals to make sure what the fuck is going on because it's probably fucked somewhere

don't base your play on TA going back 30 years

>> No.23196796

>>23196693
Oh, I dunno, how about the double top just pennies above this level?

>> No.23196799

>>23196718

Demonizing them won't make them pay any more. Sure sucks for those trying to make it in life.

>> No.23196804
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i got 20k in this beginning massive bullrun

i sure hope you are in this as well

>> No.23196823

>>23196666
yes but its irrelevant because they are getting the contract. don't bitch out now

>> No.23196830

>>23196744
australia is a cancer on the world. ive been there and everything is overpriced garbage.

>> No.23196832
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Posting this one last time:

At what point do you consider a portfolio to be no longer poor?
https://www.strawpoll.me/21083957

>> No.23196833

>>23196746
that image is obviously inaccurate and misleading, you guys are fucking clowns if you genuinely believe the dems are going to increase payroll tax to 50% and small business taxes to 40%.

>> No.23196846

>>23196693
I don't really see why not. I started with 100 shares and am slowly building it through covered calls reinvested divvies. T will still be around in 10 years thats my barometer for long term holds .

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I hate weekends because I can´t trade and the crypto market is 99% pajeet scams

>> No.23196852

>>23196804
COOMSTOP

>> No.23196862

>>23196833
Let's say you're right, your small business that barely scrapes by is still gonna get fucked with even a small tax increase
Small businesses are already fucked due to covid, this is just biden pissing on their grave

>> No.23196869

>>23196785
I have no idea about the business, but the chart seems like a buy. Plus they pay dividends

>> No.23196871

>>23196850
;_;
used love trading crypto on weekends until Poloniex rug pulled. Now there no one in US who offers margin at realistic daytradable fees

>> No.23196872

>People still not realising this is a globally coordinated economy reset
Governments are crashing the economy with no survivors

>> No.23196874

>>23196850
i think differently, mondays have been exciting ever since
weekends are much needed rest and time to do calm DD

im a bit spooked at how close GAMESPOT is getting to the $9-$11 gap though

>> No.23196882

BASF info dude did you already migrate?
Ich tendiere dazu dir zu glauben weil du viele unrelatierte Kommentare gemacht hast, unwahrscheinlich das fudder das machen
Pls frag deine leute nach mehr Infos

>>23196624
>Few years of inflation
>1million is new 100k
Tax brackets should not be decided by nominal fiat values, also it should not be brackets at all
They should be continuous functions based on what % are richer/poorer than a person with the goal of creating a sweet spot of tax efficiency at the median to strengthen the middle class

>> No.23196930

>>23196882
That's the trick anon. 1 million is the magic number for a lot of countries. The minimum to be considered a millionaire and therefore an excuse to tax you to death while ignoring the fact that every year that million value is less and less due to inflation. Middle class will dissapear

>> No.23196948

>>23196833

>you guys are fucking clowns if you genuinely believe the dems are going to increase payroll tax to 50% and small business taxes to 40%

No, but I'm not for taxes which are just elaborate embezzlement schemes to line those old farts' pockets with my money for free.

>> No.23196980

>>23196708
ohhh he's tryin!

>> No.23196997

>>23196882
>They should be continuous functions based on what % are richer/poorer than a person with the goal of creating a sweet spot of tax efficiency at the median to strengthen the middle class
That would be far too clever and competent. Ain't no way to scalp some off the top to line your pockets if you do that. Plus, who's gonna be paying YOUR retirement? It's not going to be the rich, that's for sure.

>> No.23197011

>>23196833
you're talking about the party that wants reparations and green new deal bro wtf are you talking about they'll raise any tax they can find

>> No.23197024

friendly reminder NAK is a pile of shit and their not getting their permit approved.

>> No.23197027

>>23196832
6 digits imo. Once you're there it is pretty easy to make more money. Prefarably 200k or above. Less than that and it starts cutting it a little too close for comfort to pull the plays I'd intend to do. 125k and below is just too close for comfort imo as a few bad plays can quickly get you back to 5 figures. 200k and up and I'd likely be able to make at least 10k monthly with low risk.

>> No.23197033

>>23196862
> Many companies are highly leveraged
> risk of bankruptcy
> stimulus keeps them afloat

How the fuck will these companies survive if you increase taxes?

>> No.23197038

>>23197011
>reparations
even if the dems controlled all parts of the government for the next 16 years this wouldn't happen
>green new deal
just buy clean energy and EVs

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>>23197024
this is going in my NAK cope compilation

>> No.23197053

>>23197027
You wouldn't have that problem if you learned proper trading because your risk would be tightly controlled and your returns would be as stable as you'd want them to be.

>> No.23197068

>>23197033
They won't. It's all planned.

>> No.23197099

>>23197048
dont worry i'll be bragging when my puts print

>> No.23197110

>>23197033

Leverage themselves even more and then ask big daddy gov to bail them out. You know the old saying; if you owe $100,000 it's your problem, if you own $100 million it's the bank's problem.

>> No.23197117

>>23197038
if that party gains all 3 branches its not going to be good, idk how else to explain this to your smooth brain

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Plan for tomorrow. Thoughts? Worst case I'm on the hook for $66,500.

>> No.23197125

>>23197024
im a leaf, i have to support it my leaf company (only if trump actually wins though)

>> No.23197126
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Is this legit undervalued or is it just meme?

>> No.23197132

>>23197110

>own

Meant owe.

>> No.23197155

>>23197126
no one gives a shit about those british boomer cars when TSLA exists for the luxury market

>> No.23197172

>>23197110
"In a democracy you have to be a player"

>> No.23197179

>>23197126

It's just the industrial segment of RR, not their car segment which has been sold off to BMW.

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>>23197053
Explain how to make a stable 10k monthly with low risk using only 40k.

My example can be taken as using risk migtating factors only to get wrecked every single time thereby getting to 5 figures. Which isnt difficult when ur 25001 away from it.

Now 200k on the other hand gives enough cushion for bad plays even with hedging.

>> No.23197197

>>23197099
no you'll probably just never post again because you will feel such shame when a bunch of incels on 4chan dab on you with their NAKfolios

>> No.23197205

Anyone have any insight into why gambling and casino stocks have been getting fucked in the ass last week?

>> No.23197207

>>23197155
I dunno man, few things say "Old Money" like a Rolls.

>> No.23197226
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So um, jan 15 $310 FDX call?

>> No.23197228

>>23197205
Pent up demand was literally pent up memes.

>> No.23197250

>>23196612
Joe Snuggles was asked again about whether he intends to pack the supreme court. The media dude asked the question chose a good phrasing on it such that Biden had to respond to 'don't you think americans deserve to know?' (paraphrased). Biden answered fast without thinking and said "No they don't deserve- look, i'm not going to play this game". That's a big banana peel slip this close to election. It implies Joe Biden does not think he needs to explain his intentions to voters. It may not gain Trump voters but it probably lost some moderate left wingers who get real nervous when a candidate shows a tendency to authoritarian mindset. Mindset being sign me a blank check and shut up.

>> No.23197255

>>23197126
>head and shoulder
YIKES!

>> No.23197271

>>23196617
Yes.

>> No.23197292

>>23197197
Not in NAK but I sure wouldnt be posting here if I was rich. 200k and up I'd be making 10k monthly at least barring unforeseen circumstances. No need to browse biz for early hot choices anymore at that point as slow and steady is perfectly fine when it's 120k yearly and requiring very little monitoring.

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>>23197250

>> No.23197315

>>23197126
Luxury cars during an upcoming Depression.
Mmm...

>> No.23197325

>>23197315
>he doesn't know about the 3x short rolls royce etf

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>>23197126
JUDGING VALUE BY THE CHART.

>> No.23197334

>>23197307
what the hell does pack the courts mean and why do I care. also doesn't drumpf routinely brag about how many judges he's appointed

>> No.23197337

If gme drops below 10 dollars it'll be bought up so quick. I've been debating buying at open all weekend.

>> No.23197341

>>23197315
>upcoming Depression.
oh no he's sitting on cash as we approach all time highs for the second time this year

>> No.23197379
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depression/end of the world fags are sad to watch. it's quite obvious that they've failed at their own lives, and then adopt a deranged world view that lets them cope with the fact that they're losers

>> No.23197397

>>23197328
line go down over years = company bad

show me ONE example where that isn't true

>> No.23197405

>>23196882
yo also der andere kollege meint, dass sich die stimmung im betrieb jetzt leicht gebessert hat
der andere kollege war da nbisschen apokalyptischer
auftragslage ist immer noch scheiße und bald wird ne neue anlage in betrieb genommen von der man sich viel verspricht

vom kauf hat er trotzdem abgeraten

>> No.23197416

>>23197379
There was a lot of that when gme spiked

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>>23197341
S&P gonna hit 4k this year nottant it @_@

>> No.23197440

>>23197379
A chunk of the population of every generation has believed they were living in the end of times
Every single one has been wrong so far

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>>23197337
GME is gonna be interesting this week. Don't really know what the hell to expect which makes me think it's just gonna crab.

>> No.23197460

>>23197027
I agree with you on it being 6 digits. With that size of portfolio, I feel as long as you're not making risky YOLOs, you should be able to make consistent gains weekly/monthly to continue growing your portfolio. Some people in here just lurk though and never reply, so I thought a poll would be easier than them having to voice their opinion.

>> No.23197469

>>23197191
>Explain how to make a stable 10k monthly with low risk using only 40k.
If you are already a professional trader, you can risk 1% per trade and you should pull off on average 20 to 40R per month (40R is a great month, 20R is a decent, though not very good, month. 30R is towards the higher end of good, and 10R is towards the lower end of bad). On 40k, you have R > $400. $400 * 20 = $8k (gross, not net).
Because you risk in %, it's actually more than that. Usually, you might risk as little as 0.5% of the account instead to be on the safe side (but with that kind of account that's not needed), so $4k-$8k on your first month on this account as a pro is considered rather normal.
If you're not a pro but just a strong beginner, you can still expect to make >10R or $2k-$4k on the first month.
If you're a complete beginner, you can expect to make between -20R and +20R the first year. For this reason, you usually use a fixed R of anywhere between $10 and $50 instead of 1% until you become sufficiently pro. You increase risk everytime you are consistently profitable for, say, a month or three, up to 1%.
At a fixed $10 R, you would need to lose 40 times IN A ROW to lose 1% of the account. That's more than you need to figure out if there's something systematically wrong with the way you trade and to adjust.
Incidentally, the usual winrate of a complete beginner is around 20% with a 2:1 RR all-or-nothing. That's an expected R of $4 per trade, so about 100 trades to lose just 1% of the account. Winrate is probably the easiest thing to improve as well: a good beginner can hit 55% consistently after 2 weeks with the proper education. The hardest is consistency and psychology.

>> No.23197475

>>23197334
Hmmm... I hope you're not american or hope you at least learn what's happening before you vote. Filling vacated justice seats =/= court packing. Court packing, in the context at issue, means expanding the number of total justices in order to force a partisan majority. Trump has had to appoint three scotus justices as three vacancies occurred during his administration. The total justice number for many decades now has been 9. It remains 9. The dems want to expand it up to probably 13 so they can appoint four extra justices to force majority aligned with their views. This is a disastrous tactic that weakens the validity of the scotus, turns it in to another partisan circus. And it would be short term anyway. The next time republicans get power, they could then pack further, up to i dunno 18 or whatever. And back and forth it would go with number increasing every administration change.

>> No.23197484

>>23197397
Of course its fucking true.
That's the point genius, he posting that stupid chart cause he thinks in his monkey brain *OH IT GO DOWN ALOT, SO IT COME BACK UP SOON?*

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>>23197456
we in clown world so anything can happen
but two years ago with longs this trapped Brokers and Hedgies would have tanked GME back to $6 and spend next 6 months laughing 24/7 as newbie traders die inside O_O

>> No.23197495

>>23197420
4k by December 1.

>> No.23197501

>>23197405
Ok ich denke ich vekauf morgen um 8
Hab den absoluten boden im Frühling gekauft tut also nicht weh
Mal schauen wie stark es dropt, vielleicht kauf ich mich wieder ein
chemische Industrie ist grundlage für so vieles, sehe einfach nicht das die verschwindet

>> No.23197504

GME will raise again for some odd reason watch it

>> No.23197505

>>23197484
kk

>> No.23197525
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I’m only going to say this one time . You guys need to buy ENZC fast because big stuff is coming. Do you want to be a millionaire? Buy ENZC right now at only .015 a share .
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=158718656

>> No.23197528

>>23197486
Well with almost no shares left to short, unless retail gets spooked and dumps, it seems like it only can go up.

>> No.23197536

>>23197334
Trump is talking about positions on lower courts, many of which were left open by Obama, while "packing the courts" in this context refers to the Democrat's threat of adding additional seats to the Supreme Court and basically just appointing however many judges they need.
The last time this was an issue was during FDR's 2nd term:
>Roosevelt proposed the Judicial Procedures Reform Bill of 1937, which would have allowed him to appoint an additional Justice for each incumbent Justice over the age of 70; in 1937, there were six Supreme Court Justices over the age of 70. The size of the Court had been set at nine since the passage of the Judiciary Act of 1869, and Congress had altered the number of Justices six other times throughout U.S. history. Roosevelt's "court packing" plan ran into intense political opposition from his own party, led by Vice President Garner, since it upset the separation of powers. A bipartisan coalition of liberals and conservatives of both parties opposed the bill, and Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes broke with precedent by publicly advocating defeat of the bill. Any chance of passing the bill ended with the death of Senate Majority Leader Joseph Taylor Robinson in July 1937.

So, last time this was attempted, the president's own party opposed it. It would basically mean the end of any pretense that the court is anything but a body of unelected partisans, and removes any kind of check on DNC rule.

What that means for the stock market though, who knows? I don't think the DNC is anywhere near as "socialist" as talk radio would have you believe and something like a sweeping green new deal could cause solar & EV stocks to soar even further.

>> No.23197539

>>23197416
Rent free.

>> No.23197543

>>23197475
Chucky Schumer also threatened adding more states like DC, Puerto Rico, Guam to expand probable democrat seats in senate and congress. More circus.

>> No.23197556

>>23197525
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=158718656

>> No.23197581

>>23197205
corona resurgence

>> No.23197589

>>23197528
this not really gonna matter unless SHO regulators get involved. DTC will just keep letting naked shorts happen until they get yelled at >_<

>> No.23197591

>>23197420
Too good to be true. I’m in 100k leveraged

>> No.23197656

>>23197536
The whole point if green new deal is to create an industry to syphon money. Bonus as it gets the public feels aflustered. Of course alternative energy stocks will moon in response to democrat win, especially if it's unlikely majority win. Global warming global climate change green new deal has alwats been about money. Nobody gives a shit about carbon emissions.

>> No.23197660

>>23197525
>>23197556
kek how much do i buy and at what price

>> No.23197667

>>23197556
>scientific articles span from the 1970's to 2004, nothing new since
Yikes!

>> No.23197680

been away since friday lads, what the fuck are we doing that doesn't involve GME tomorrow?

>> No.23197685

>>23197539
Stay mad faggot ;)

>> No.23197704

>>23197680
your mom, lol

>> No.23197707

>>23197656
>nobody gives a shit about carbon emissions
This is not true anymore. The crazy bitches of the new generation of political elites legitimately buy into all the commie bullshit Bernie spews. They're legit communists and they are the most influential politicians on the left putting those ideals into the younger generation who will also believe in that bullshit. They are a cancer on our country.

>> No.23197717

>>23197680
a*m*d going back to 90 next week

>> No.23197752

>>23197717
AMD going back to 90?

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Anyone long on XOM?

>> No.23197764

>>23197704
your loss
>>23197717
yikes
>>23197525
chart looks like a random crypto shitcoin. Looks like its going back to .0005

>> No.23197771

>>23197680
FedEx, etsy, cloudflare

>> No.23197776

What’s mooning after Trump wins the election?

>> No.23197787

Predictions for GME tomorrow:
Slight crab up due to the uptick rule. As Tuesday hits, it’s probably gonna dump. Guess we’ll see what actually happens in premarket.

>> No.23197790

>>23196624
>They plan on making long term capital gains count as short term for people making 1m a year or more
So they plan to take away the incentive for long term investment over speculative day trading. All the institutions will have no reason to daytrade their entire portfolios.
I’m not sure this will be great for long term stability of the market. Just imagine the god damn volatility when pension funds start swinging. Seriously though, it’s not about percentages being too high or low, it’s exactly the kind of misplaced incentive alignment that idiot politicians will thoughtlessly drive through because they sound good to the dumbest part of the population that can actually totally ruin a whole market and country. This idea from Joe is way more dangerous than if he tripled both the capital gains and salary taxes, which could also destroy America but not as readily as this incompetent proposal.

>> No.23197801

>>23196675
You are a leftoid nigger brainwashed by low IQ emotional arguments put forth by kikes and NEED to go back.

>> No.23197808

>>23197776
the market

>> No.23197812

>>23197776
SQQQ

>> No.23197814

>>23197790
The institutions will have no reason NOT to day trade their portfolios*, sorry

>> No.23197820

>>23197771
>cloudflare
i'm in NET but how long can this mooning continue? i'd expect a correction tbqh

>> No.23197831

>>23197820
>correction

Bruh, we have a longgggg way to go

>> No.23197834

>>23197771
>cloudflare
this has been one of my best gainers @ 184%, and I'm always scared to buy more because I don't want to fuck up my beautiful $16.55 cost avg.

>> No.23197839

After reading up a bit more about the Microsoft + Gamestop stuff, it doesn't really seem all that exciting. I used to work at GME a few years ago and there software and infrastructure was admittedly fairly shit, but switching it all to MSFT cloud based shenanigans leaves me wondering if this isn't more like a form of just product placement on MSFT side, while GME gets a discount on updating their point of sale hardware.

While interesting, I don't really have faith that the customer service experience at the brick and mortar stores will improve all that much, they already have order online and pick up in store so that's not really new. From my experience what GME needs is an overhaul in logistics on the order processing and getting to the customer side more than anything.

>> No.23197848

>>23197820
I think its heading towards $80 but I'm also a retard

>> No.23197859

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

It's ogre.

>> No.23197861

>>23197831
fine by me
b-but we are still not profitable tho

>> No.23197871

>>23197834
Damn, I wouldnt want to fuck that up either

>> No.23197901

>>23197839
because you're misunderstanding the Gamespot play
this isn't about growth potential or whatever, this is all about getting back to positive cash flow and it becomes a simple math problem

think about what happens when the dividend is resumed or if share buybacks continue

>> No.23197910
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Is this a buy?

>> No.23197912

>>23197871
Yeah I need it to dump at minimum 10% before I'd be OK adding more...but it never does.

>> No.23197926

>>23197834
>>23197820
There is no identifiable risk on the daily or the hourly for NET. 2m chart does show momentum slowing down but I don't see cause to be concerned yet here either. Net was also showing relative strength recently.
Tuesday could see large gains on NET depending on what happens Monday. Overall, sentiment is clearly bullish but not excessive.

>> No.23197930
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23197930

'ate tech
'ate growth
'ate gains
'ate china
'ate nothingburgers
luv burgers
luv me theaters
luv me oil
luv me divvies
I can wait 20 years.
When I see big gains, I say to meself "WHOA NELLY, SLOW DOWN NOW"
Always a special place in me heart for the king of beverages
*sips*
SIMPLE AS
___________________________________
Proud supporter of YOU'RE 45th President
USMC 1981-1981
Mall Security 1981-
All I need in my life is my hog, my dog, and my beer
-Sent from my iPhone

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>>23197525
>Share price so low you have to go out to the 3rd decimal
>Ever being anything more than a PnD

>> No.23197953

>>23197910
Clearly not. Even if it did go up right away, it should not be able to hit $20 before rebounds (despite pretty whipy movement), and there is no sign that it'll go up soon (so you're gambling on shit odds).

>> No.23197974

>>23197910
look into DDS's numbers instead

>> No.23197994

>>23197930
based

>> No.23197998

>>23197930
based

>> No.23198000

>>23197901
Hmm, so it's more about presenting to potential investors that a more 'solid' company like Microsoft is willing to do business with Gamestop, therefore more investors may be willing to buy in, and potentially additional positive trends could result from that (such as dividends like you mentioned) making the stock an increasingly valuable pick?

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>>23197926
cool, let's make more money
i need to buy more at some point

>> No.23198028

Can GME recover in the next few weeks and break 15$

>> No.23198047

>>23197760
Nope. I got out of oil, I think it has much more room to fall, that being said if I do go back in it'll be with RDS.B and/or TOT because unlike XOM they're looking ahead and getting into renewables which would make them a fuel and energy company instead of being all in on petroleum.

XOM is sticking 100% to fuel...not smart.

>> No.23198058

>>23197760
renewable is the future

>> No.23198060

>>23198028
hopefully not so I can buy more

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A-anons...

>> No.23198103

>>23198028
>Can GME recover in the next few weeks and break 15$

Been making a few bucks buying puts on pumps and selling them on dumps.....not really keen to push my luck any more.

>> No.23198107

>>23198028
It spikes insanely on any positive news. If we get something lift the MSFT thing last week it might break $15. Who knows what'll happen though.

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COOOMstop theme song Monday
https://youtu.be/rcYhYO02f98

>> No.23198125

>>23198101
I went to college for free, but I hope something like this passes to help out my (((fellow millennials))). Would be good for the broader economy too.

>> No.23198140

>>23197776
Inflation

>> No.23198143

>>23198047
unironically, xom, slb, hal, rds, bp, conoco, chevron, etc, are going to moon within the next few years. it's going to be hilarious watching all the weak hands seething during the next oil bull run, which will occur the moment there's another conflict in the persian gulf that threatens oil shipments.

>> No.23198153

>>23198101
>printin' big green wads for irresponsible zoomers
Only thing the government should print 'dem big green wads is to give to me when I can't make a mortgage payment.
Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps. *sips*

>> No.23198176

>>23197801
chill out mang lmao

>> No.23198195

>>23197707
Yeah but none of that matters without the people running industry being on board. They're on board because $$$. If industry told radical politicians to fuck off, the green new tree hug would go nowhere.

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23198202

Found this while shopping
I think it’s a sign

>> No.23198218

>>23198000
68.63 million shares short betting on G*ME going bankrupt
At 34.6% borrow rates, short sellers break even only if G*ME goes to $0 in a bit under 3 years. That borrow rate will keep creeping up because of how overcrowded the trade is (public float is 48.63 million shares)
Resume dividends, those 68.63 million shares have to start paying dividends, adding more pressure to cover

it's just math, why do you think so many people jumped in on this so easily a month ago?

>> No.23198221

>>23197197
lmao bet you been bagholding since 2013. A 40 year old penny stock is gonna make you rich??

>> No.23198254

>>23198218
Why is borrow rate down so much
It was at 50% weeks ago

>> No.23198281

>>23197760
Yup I bought more on Friday and I'll keep adding to my bag monthly whist it's this cheap

>> No.23198282

Wait, how many of you are algos?

>> No.23198285

>>23198143
>are going to moon within the next few years
opportunity cost is too great, while you have money just sitting in oil doing nothing, everything else is mooning
even shit like Bed Bath Beyond is mooning almost +100% within weeks recently, Dillard's too. If you're hoping for corona recovery plays, it's way too fucking early for oil and airliners. The first to recover would be shit like retailers with black friday coming up, plenty of other shit (just double-check their financials and make sure they're actually recovering). Even Party City was a 10x within months

or i dunno, just put money in shit with actual fundamentals right now, tech, semiconductors, couriers, etc

>> No.23198292

>>23198221
>A 40 year old penny stock

>founded 1983

Holy shit, you were close.

>> No.23198294

Anons give me a shot of hopium. Will my $3 FCEL calls print next week?

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I've been unemployed since July but tomorrow I'm starting a new job and won't be able to shitpost with you during market hours anymore or stare at lines on my phone all day and participate in Chinese bot P&Ds. I'm going to miss you /smg/.

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Oh wagies, cage tomorrow. Your slavery break ends again.

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>>23196693
The Empire is strong and will always be there long as smartphones/internet/entertainment exist. Consists of the following units: Communications (Internet/phone service), WarnerMedia (CNN/WarnerBros studios/HBO Max/Video games/Otter media/Crunchyroll/other), DirectTV. Truely shocking what's owned by the Empire. Just like all the stuff owned by DIS.

>> No.23198341

>>23198292
holy shit its like i did 5 seconds of DD

>> No.23198353

>>23198254
more people are lending out their shares, brokers are calling people out asking if they want to lend it out

not a bad thing, the short squeeze was never going to happen from speculation/hype catalysts alone since these are institutional short sellers. We need positive EPS from Q3 or Q4

>> No.23198376

>>23198299
congrats anon, good luck.

>> No.23198383

>>23198101
Don’t worry, I won’t qualify for some fucking reason

>> No.23198399

>>23197292
How do I make 120k a year of 200k please

>> No.23198400

>>23198326
Wait is this your div portfolio anon? Why the heck do you own citigroup

>> No.23198405

WKHS will get the contract on tuesday. check this 7

>> No.23198407

>>23198341
I never bothered looking into NAK based on how desperate its shills seem to be, I had no idea it was that old.

>> No.23198413

>>23198299
Good job anon, I hope you're not ditching everything for burger flipping though

>> No.23198432

>>23198101
As a leaf, I have 0 understanding as to why your guys' student loans are so damn high. I've seen so many people with loans greater than 6 digits. If that was the case over here, I would never get higher education. Good for you guys if it actually passes.

>> No.23198433

>>23198407
almsot 40 years of being denied the permit.
>But this time its different.

yea i'm all in Nak. all in nak puts

>> No.23198436

>>23198383

SHUT UP whyte boy, you know why you don't qualify you whyte nigger

>> No.23198477

Anons should i buy ups or wkhs on open?

>> No.23198499

>>23197660
It should be at the bottom now . I’m in at .0148 . 100,000 shares

>> No.23198501

>>23198433
checked. I'll scope some out tomorrow. any important dates in their permitting process to be aware of?

>> No.23198526

>>23196603
kissing boys is gay

>> No.23198530

>>23198433
$NAK has only owned pebble since 2001. It’s clear you’ve done ONLY 5 mins of DD. I can’t wait to see the NAK short seethe

>> No.23198536

>>23198218
The percent of shares short and the new console release likely bump were all reasons why I jumped in a few weeks ago, I was mostly just wondering about the scope of this microsoft deal and whether there was something else I was missing beyond the tangible asset and company operation changes it could mean in the future.

>> No.23198544

>>23198432
It's because they're
- Going out of state (out of state tuition for US citizens is the same as international tuition in Canada)
- To fancy-name schools (the others hamper your chances at a job, no joke)
- 3 years in, figure they don't like their degree and start all over again
- Get a 3rd degree for good measure
In canada, tuition is not waived in grad school if you get a grant. In the US, it is. On the other hand, Americans pay taxes on grants, Canadians don't.

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23198547

>am heavily short futures over weekend
>am not feeling bearish vibes at all

>> No.23198551

>>23198477
>not owning both
ngmi

>> No.23198560

>>23196624
Give an inch, and they'll take a mile. If you don't live your life by this philosophy you are a door mat and deserve all the suffering you get.

>> No.23198574

>>23198101
I can already hear millenials and zoomers cooming
>"loool drumpf bailed us out haha, now I can get a loan for that $80k BMW I always wanted"

>> No.23198579

Anon from previous thread looking at some more input:

50% of all my money into VOO, 50% of all my money into TQQQ. Is there anyway to fail?

>> No.23198580

>>23198281
You reckon it will test $30 again?

>> No.23198583

Why is everyone shilling UPS all the sudden?

>> No.23198588

>>23196718
You're no Chad and you deserve to starve not just scrap by. I hope you suffer, faggot.

>> No.23198590

>>23198579
rebalancing?

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>>23198000
It's partially about that, and it's also Microsoft being able to utilize Gamestop's existing network of capital. In exchange for this partnership, Gamestop gets some revenue and some more confidence in their name which is a solid shot at reversing the trend over the past five years or so. There are brands that have successfully transitioned from physical to an online brand; Gamestop is betting on being able to make that transition.

>> No.23198626

>>23198413
Nope, it's for my career in reverse engineering and cybersecurity.

>> No.23198652

>>23198590
You mean rebalancing to always 50/50? don't know

>> No.23198655

>>23198583
fedex

>> No.23198660

>>23198282
I mean, I'm autistic as fuck, so I'm kind of a robot. Don't know if that counts or not.

>> No.23198662

>>23198530
>20 years of waitin' for THE BIG GREEN WADS
>maybe even 'nother 20 years of waitin' for THE BIG GREEN WADS
That's how I like 'em
*sips*

>> No.23198663

>>23197941
Your loss

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>>23198626

>> No.23198693

>>23198547
I'm in puts myself. I think that this is the week where the failed stimulus finally catches up

>> No.23198713

>>23198400
Well it's cheap and kinda at the bottom of the range. It's still paying out that 0.51 divvy when most banks have cut theirs. The median target price is 64 a share. (low 40s now). The high is 80. 4+ yield.

>> No.23198717

>>23197776
Blockbuster

>> No.23198896

>>23198547
What would you say the proper length for a feminine benis should be without intimidating the man staring at it?

>> No.23198902

>>23198574
Degrees are mandatory to be a fully functioning cog in society's machine. There's simply no way around them. Most people in debt over them, contrary to common sense belief, are NOT those with women's studies degrees, but rather those with tech, life science, or engineering degrees. Biologists make minimum wage even with PhDs, and can't even do that with just a BSc. Engineers and techies get pushed away because of outsourced labor and illegals.
Womens' studies holders get to be Chief Diversity Officers, netting 300k straight out of college.

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>>23197787
>>23196600
>>23197504

GME BEAR CRUE ASSEMBLEEEEEE

Where are we taking GMEtards gfs after our puts print and our shorts moon tmrw?

Kid who lives down the hall has a QT who I've been really friends with for a while, unironically thinking of her to vegas to see the grand canyon when he looses all the money he earned working over the summer and commits sepuku.

If not I'll just take my own gay GF or try to swing a threesome trip.

>> No.23198934

>>23198662
>army core of engineers has recently determined that site will little to NO environmental impact. HMMMM if trump wins...!!!!!!

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>>23198902
Yeah the microbiologist techs in the building I work at make less than me, and I'm the janitor lol. I wish I were joking.

>> No.23198937

>>23198713
Dude I'm about to lose half my wealth if Citi options tank with earnings on Tuesday.

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>>23198547
Gg no re

>> No.23198950

>>23198909
3DPD
not even once

>> No.23198968

Futures in an hour. Green or red for Columbus/Indigenous People's Day???

>> No.23198970

>>23198935
Yeah, and he probably works 70+ hours a week, too. It's insane how skewed the paygrade across different professions are.
I mean here we are, trading stocks. Just needs a year or two of training and you're making more than SV techfags in just 2 hours a day, from anywhere in the world. That's the other extreme I suppose.

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Man I need less /pol/ and more /smg/ I made some money on SHLL and then put all 16k into Tesla and haven’t thought much about it in 2 weeks. What’s my next move bros?

>> No.23198976

When do futures start again?

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>>23198976
right now

>> No.23198997

>>23198974
mystery anon said to gtfo tesla man

>> No.23199002

>>23198896
Kek real men not intimidated by any penor size >_<
But as women me enjoy femboys for have under 3 inch so me can humiliation them

>> No.23199006

if trump wins in a landslide because all the polls are wrong like they were in 2016, what do we think the market will do?

>> No.23199017

>>23199006
Go up

>> No.23199020

>>23198970
To be fair it's an entry level job. But it's honestly one of the more disgusting jobs I've seen in the labs. Everything smells like shit, they have to deal with polio, ecoli, etc. And like you said, work terrible fucking hours. I'm starting to think large chunks of STEM are just a meme.

>> No.23199026

>>23198968
I'm thinking red. It's pretty overextended already and it just gapped up over significant resistance. It will probably retrace to the MA (~283-284 range) and then hopefully blast off.

>> No.23199027

>>23199006
Rally big league

>> No.23199028

>>23198997
Why???

>> No.23199034 [DELETED] 

>>23198935
Based. As I micro tech I can assure you that most of the time you are basically micro-janitoring in the lab. Literally is there such a thing as a non-janitorial economy. The way I see it there are two sides: those making messes and those cleaning it up. Its fucking retarded

>> No.23199037

>>23199006
line go up, bigly

>> No.23199042
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23199042

>>23198326
>T

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>>23198937
Here is proof. I'm down a lot of money on Citi calls. Hoping for good earnings and stimulus to at least get me close to break even.

>> No.23199067

>>23198968
>>23199026

I'm interested to see the accuracy of this relative to futures open price.

https://www.ig.com/en/indices/markets-indices/weekend-wall-street

At present they have dow at -.02%.

>> No.23199083

>>23198326
Hopefully direct TV goes bye bye here soon

>> No.23199108

>>23199034
People shit all over janitorial work but I love it. Plus you get to learn intimate details about people based on what they throw away and their bathroom habits. If I'm lucky I occasionally get to clean a bathroom after a qt pinches off a log of brap meat and I get free sniffs.

>> No.23199137

I hope GME turns around cause I have a ton of calls for November 14$

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>>23198950
BYE BYE GMEtards

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>>23198547
I told you on Friday to stop betting against America.

>> No.23199183

>>23198285
>give up your XOM for Dillard's
The coming sector rotation, which has already begun in earnest, is going to make you feel as dumb as you look.

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uh oh he's back guys

>> No.23199210

>>23198547
get FUCKED literal retard tranny FAGGOT

>> No.23199218

>>23196624

You want people with money to like your country because they invest and thereby create jobs for the plebs. If you scare rich people away then you have nothing left but unemployed plebs.

>> No.23199233

>>23199210
That's not a particularly nice thing to say to someone anon.

>> No.23199240

>>23199210
hey man that's not am nice

>> No.23199242

>>23199067
When I last checked it, it was completely uncorrelated. Meh.

>> No.23199243

>>23196693

AT&T is sure to make you money, it can't go wrong. But your money might be better spent elsewhere. In this low-interest rate environment I'm guessing Russel 2000 is gonna outperform T.
I'm very heavily invested in Telecomm, including T, but it's a defensive pick. Most likely Russel 2000 and SPY is gonna outperform T.

>> No.23199246

>>23197771
Will Cloudfare go back down to $40? I want more

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>>23198547
Why would be bearish exactly? Like in the face of the clown market, that it in itself is bullish.

I've made so much fucking money from just holding stocks like Microsoft, paypal etc its disgusting. Fuck wagies.

>> No.23199265

>>23199017
>>23199027
>>23199037

I actually think this is a probably outcome. Have been doing goog trends research with binary terms like "antifa" compared to "blm", "donate to trump" vs "donate to biden", "register as republican" vs "register as democrat". Peoples worldview colors the search terms they use and by this metric, for the 20 or so this vs that's i looked at, it is going to be a trump landslide. Exporting to csv on a per state basis and doing a weighted score show pretty much only district of columbia having a biden advantage. Kek.

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Guys I think my horse might be retarded. What do I do?

>> No.23199299

>>23199243
Who the hell still uses AT&T anymore. There service is too expensive for poorfags, and richfags just use verizon. Nobody uses direct TV anymore, and their internet is terrible.

>> No.23199329

>>23199298
fuck in the ass

>> No.23199333

>>23199183
>is going to make you feel as dumb as you look.
sounds like massive cope as you baghold XOM which keeps bleeding

DDS along with other retailer shit (BBBY and GME) are all fucking mooning, oh man i sure as hell look dumb

>> No.23199344

does any TA strategy work?

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>>23199344
Lol no.

>> No.23199384

>>23199265
I'm politically agnostic w/ Trump/Biden, but I don't think this kind of viewpoint has any basis in reality. Google searching and trends is one metric in a sea of metrics, most of which favor Biden heavily (including betting markets.) The EC math itself favors Biden heavily, not to mention states where even if Trump wins the Electors will give their votes to Biden as long as Biden wins the popular vote, which he most assuredly will do. Then you factor in places like Broward County, FL, where they just openly commit ballot stuffing and voter fraud and there's no punishment (my understanding is that there has been a massive (((dark money))) funding campaign to elect leftist DAs across the country, who will look the other way on shit like that.)

I think a Biden win is likely, but it doesn't seem the market has priced this in yet. Potential arbitrage there.

>> No.23199390

>>23199344
only seen it work for very obvious trends like a triple bottom

>> No.23199410

>>23199384
>I think a Biden win is likely
naaaaah

>> No.23199418

>>23199333
I don't own enough XOM for the bleeding to hurt me, and I'm only down 5% (at the moment, it could turn worse) which is outpaced by their dividend yield.

I congratulate you for making money on retailers, but in general I find your comments ironic don't think retail has a much better long term outlook than oil, if we're judging by market analyst sentiments.

>> No.23199446

>>23199344
Of course

>> No.23199452

>>23199384
Glowing brightly today
https://youtu.be/AbG6u86t4bA

>> No.23199459

>>23199384
an interesting line of research would be to find out what giant hedge funds back in 2016 conducted internal polling independent of the media and identify those that got 2016 correct. i just see massive turnout at all these trump events whereas like 6 people are showing up at biden harris social distancing events. remember the pols were so wrong in 2016 and even nate copper patron saint of statistics got it wrong. for the following 4 weeks after 2016 the incorrectness of the polling was attributed to the "silent majority". here we are 4 years later and it's like those words have been forgotten again.

>> No.23199474

>>23199452
Just trying to be objective about it, no need to get upset or let your personal feelings get in the way. Saying this election is going to be a "landslide" one way or another is just not a realistic viewpoint. I'd like to be wrong, because markets will react favorably to a Trump landslide. I just don't think it'll happen.

>> No.23199494

>>23199384
There are endless amounts of metrics that point to a trump landslide. Every time trump shows up anywhere, there are thousands of people attending at the very least. Biden is lucky when 5 people show up (FIVE! I'm not even making that number up. This is completely unprecedented. Even independents attract more people.). His plans are a turnoff to anyone from rich to poor, so anyone who would have been on the fence is virtually guaranteed to vote against biden (either no vote or outright trump vote). Re-weighting poll data based on population statistics for rep/dem in the sampling population shows a clear trump bias, which is extremely rare historically. That's just a few examples.

>> No.23199519

>>23199474
objectively, if big regulation, massive business tax hikes, giant social programs, and general anti-business sentiment are associated with blue administrations, wouldn't we expect the market to price that in and start seeing a flight from equities instead of the new highs being reached..what if trump landslide is priced in and only the markets are wise to it?

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>>23199193

GME is done for.

>> No.23199528

>>23198326
What brokerage service is this?

>> No.23199539

>>23199474
The likelihood of being a landslide eitherway is very high due to the ridiculous polarization among americans, but asymmetry in the division caused by the constant democrat divisive rhetoric.

>> No.23199540

>>23199418
retail is dead. oil is the backbone of the global economy and will remain so until some kind of battery technology that is superior to, and cheaper, than lithium ion, is invented and mass produced.

>> No.23199549

>>23199519
wall street boomers think biden will be a moderate like bill clinton

>> No.23199550

Should I hold or sell my NVDA?

>> No.23199556

>>23199474
I know I'm just busting chops. I don't have the slightest clue whose going to win this election. All I know is the winner is going to be the candidate who can rig the election more effectively

>> No.23199559

>>23199344
Absolutely, but there are a lot of bads out there that can't use them properly and thus say they don't work. But those are the people we make money off of.

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>>23199344
Nobody with an effective approach to TA is going to argue the point. TA does work for me, and I have proven so with results over long term, but I'm not going to get in to argument trying to convince anybody about it. What would be my motivation? Dumb money floundering around creates opportunities for me to make money. This is also why it's fairly rare for successful traders to write books about what they did until AFTER they have made the fuck you money.

>> No.23199591

>>23199550
If you held that long, you should probably keep holding. It could bounce back on monday.

>> No.23199597

>>23199474
Trump has a lot going for him currently. the silent majority are extremely distrustful of the MSM nowadays (only growing in that sentiment more and more as his term has unfolded), the stock market is reaching new ATH's, and he got covid and won (at least as far as the public is aware). the only way they can really beat Trump is if they rig it somehow, but the question is if they could do that why didn't Hillary win? and all of this isn't even getting into all of the problems with Biden and his many shortcomings, both politically and personally. i've still never gotten over this and i know most people haven't either, and the media constantly trying to shift focus from it and cover it up only makes it worse and worse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

>> No.23199601

>>23199410
>>23199494
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

inb4 fake news

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>>23199540
Exactly. The only question is which companies can weather price manipulation by Russia/OPEC for the next year or so, with the balls to still call themselves an oil company and run themselves like an oil company. XOM is the answer to that question.

>> No.23199629

>>23199601
inb4 people are lying to the pollsters, because trump supporters dont know who is doing the poll, or if their information will be given to nigger lives matter/antifa who will then burn their house down. i'm sorry democrats made it so polling is impossible, but they did, and that's not changing any time soon.

>> No.23199634

>>23199578
basically as far as i can tell, every system works sometimes and doesn't work other times. i can look at two setups and they look almost exactly the same except one fails and one succeeds. some days you have big wins, some days you lose a fuckload, and other days are in between, idk how you expect to get any consistency out of that unless you've got some way of knowing when the "good" days are going to be and when the "bad" days are going to be somehow. how do you know one day it's going to trend really well and you trade that, and this other day it's going to crab around sporadically and you just don't even trade that day? that's the big question, anon.

>> No.23199636

>>23199549
Biden wants to tax capital gains the same max rate no longer how long you've held.

Even if Biden some how manages to win with potentially the most anti-wall st. line ever, there's no chance anyones a fan. The only upside he offers is a slightly larger stimulus which most analysts don't care about or think is necessary.

On the other hand, he cuts their gains on assets theyv'e held for decades in half. On top of that he has all 3 electable positions in the federal gov, house, senate, and executive. He will rip into their gains and future prospects.

There has never been a candidate wall st. wants less, which is why they are pretending to support him now, they get to score brownie points when he looses. Trump isn't at all worried about which horse they're backing.

>> No.23199637

>>23199578
Pretty much this. TAs increase probability of correct analysis. All it takes is to be right 51% of the time, proportionally to investment, to make money. Anyone saying they don't work simply because they don't work 100% of the time aren't made for the market anyway and will be washed out. Those who understand this method will simply take their money.

>> No.23199661

>>23199418
you're looking at oil probably because you're value picking but you've failed to realized you're in a value trap instead. The only real value opportunity in oil was OVV back in March

no one was expecting XOM to ever go bankrupt, there's no opportunity there
>if we're judging by market analyst sentiments.
how do you expect anyone to take you seriously, the bulk of the market was betting on retail going bankrupt and it all backfired for them once CARES act was out among other corona bux shit, retail is still oversold to the point that even Party City was a 10-bagger since March

figure out the numbers yourself, bet you think Gamestop is going bankrupt soon too

>> No.23199660

>>23199629
Yeah, I actually refused a polling text a couple weeks ago because in the back of my mind it could have been doxxers.

>> No.23199662

>>23199601

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

>2016 nate copper
>i am forgotten

>> No.23199664

Give me 1 good reason why I shouldn't put my entire portfolio into DAL, LUV, CCL and RCL tomorrow and hold it for 5 years.

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>>23199601
Wtf drumpf is done for I'm ridin with biden now!

>> No.23199687

>>23199344
Most do. There are multiple critical steps to make it work though:
- Risk management (the single most important aspect of all)
- Scanning/stock finding strategy
- Pattern identification
- Entry identification (patterns say that it's 70% going up, but you have to wait for confirmation. What the confirmation is is an important part of this)
- Trade management strategy (when do you cut losses, when do you take profit, how do you adjust risk as the price of the stock moves, etc.)

Notice that patterns are a very minor part of this. Some patterns work. Some work better than others. For the most part, patterns never work in a vacuum, only in a context. For example, maybe by experimenting you will find that 3 white soldiers only works in downtrends when volume is low (I'm making things up, I mostly focus on reversals and flags).

>> No.23199694

>>23199459
I think it's even more simplistic than that. Trump represents opening back up. Biden represents extending this bullshit indefinitely. Literally none of my customers or subcontractors give any shits about a fucking mask. 90% of people I see in public wear them only into places that require them and then immediately remove them as soon as they leave. I have a client that's a literal 90 year old man that gives zero fucks about wearing a mask. Everyone is sick of it.

>> No.23199700

>>23199601
>polls

you're one of those guys who just believes everything they're told by the authorities without question, aren't you?

why should i trust the results of this website? if i made my own website and said "Trump expected to win in a landslide! Trust me!" would you believe me just because I said it on my website?

>> No.23199702

>>23199660
i said biden in the last one i got, because i could.

>> No.23199706

>>23199661
People still believe XOM will cut its dividend, which has the same effect. XOM won't cut their dividend.

>> No.23199710

>>23199664
Bold move. You can sell calls at least.

>> No.23199720

>>23199660
I told them I'd be voting dem across the board when I'm going to bother voting because they kept hounding me with texts

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>>23199634
>basically as far as i can tell, every system works sometimes and doesn't work other times.
Correct. You're playing probability. Nobody gets 100% win rate and nobody good even expects to achieve that kind of number. If your risk management is good you can do very well with 50% win rate. 50% is not necessary to be profitable either. I think too many people get cart before horse on this, try to put together TA system first and neglect the risk management side. Risk management is the biggest part of determining whether you win or lose overall.

>> No.23199726

>>23199702
Good. Make them think he's up double digits, lol.

>> No.23199735

>>23199601
I'll never believe another one of these dumb polls and it's literally just because of '16
'16 completely destroyed whatever small amount of faith I had left in the media at that point

>> No.23199742

>>23199661
no, make no mistake, retail is going bankrupt. the one no one will see coming is wal-mart, it will come out of nowhere, within the next few years. XOM, on the other hand, is being held down by endless loss-leader production in russia and saudi arabia, those nations are bleeding themselves white trying to under-cut american oil. when they inevitably fail, because no one beats america, xom is going to soar.

>> No.23199743

>>23199720
*not going to bother voting

>> No.23199752

Guys what do u think amd will do tomorrow and this week? Imo could dump hard af or moon to 90+. Leaning much more heavily to mooning

>> No.23199758

>>23199634
>how do you know one day it's going to trend really well and you trade that, and this other day it's going to crab around sporadically and you just don't even trade that day?
You don't. Main thing is to let the winners run and cut the losers off fast before they chew too far in to your principal.

>> No.23199760

>>23199742
Damn now I have a boner

>> No.23199761

>>23199637
but how do you know something will work even 51% of the time? besides, that implies a 1:1 risk reward on every trade, too. just because something has worked historically doesn't necessarily mean it will work in the future. and if your win rate ends up being not as high as you had hoped, you're losing money. potentially a lot of money. potentially all of your money, depending on what actually happens.

>> No.23199785

>>23199384
>The EC math itself favors Biden heavily, not to mention states where even if Trump wins the Electors will give their votes to Biden as long as Biden wins the popular vote
No.. this won't happen. This was SOOOO talked about last election as a thing "that will save america from Trump if he wins" but never happened because everyone and their mother knows that it would cause chaos.. this is just wishful thinking pushed by checkmarked twitter accounts again. That topic can just be ignored completely.

>I think a Biden win is likely
I am pro-Trump, but trying to stay as neutral as possible here.. the past metrics that have successfully predicted a re-election of a sitting president says that Trump will win. The only polls that are actively showing poor results for Trump are the same polls that showed poor results for him last election and this is like I said a re-election which is even easier to win, sure there's Corona happening but looking at his approval numbers, they are stable and haven't barely budged, especially not amongst his core which has even shocked some media outlets talking about the subject.
No matter how you put it, you CANT look at the media polls and go "hey, Biden leads". Trump doesn't have a "silent majority" but he does have people that are silent supporters, a.k.a people that doesn't want to get harassed or fired because they support him and that has never been taken as something serious for pollsters which is a problem

>> No.23199801

>>23199742
>retail is going bankrupt. the one no one will see coming is wal-mart, it will come out of nowhere,
how do you expect anyone to take you seriously

>> No.23199810

>>23199752
even if it dumps tomorrow it might be fine down the line if you hodl out because xmas and corona still kicking around

>> No.23199816

>>23199761
You are obviously afraid. Fear = ngmi. Let us make our money and shut up.

>> No.23199830

>>23199601
Methodology:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-fivethirtyeights-2020-presidential-forecast-works-and-whats-different-because-of-covid-19/
tl;dr: "if we write an article that says we like biden, biden now has 99% chance to win. Your move bigots! Statistics, methodology that makes sense, actual accurate polling methods? Fuck that shit, that's for wypipo!"

>> No.23199848

>>23199725
i understand the methodology of risk management don't get me wrong, anon. the issue i have is that you don't necessarily know if you'll get 50% or whatever % you need to be profitable. it's especially bad when you consider streaks existing, where even if you might have a 50% win rate over a large sample size, your first 10 trades might all be losses, and how do you know that it's not a problem with your system and you should stop using it vs. just a statistical anomaly that will work itself out at some point? this is the problem.

>> No.23199857

>>23199735

It's like the media is ignoring the absolute fact that the massive prediction flop happened. I'm really starting to believe trump landslide is priced in and the market knows what's up.

>Hillary Clinton has an 85% chance to win.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html

>Clinton +2.1, 69.1% chance to win
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

>After Donald Trump’s political-world-shattering upset of Hillary Clinton, the polling industry finds itself facing an existential crisis. A vast majority of the key polls were not just wrong, they were humiliatingly wrong. Though a very select few — most notably the LA Times, IBD/TIPP, and Trafalgar Group — actually got it about right, most pollsters ended up grossly over-sampling Democrats and failing to account for Trump’s “hidden” supporters. Below is a comparison of the final polling data going into the election Tuesday morning and the final results, which often ended up looking quite different.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/just-how-wrong-were-pollsters-final-polls-vs-final-james-barrett

>> No.23199862

>>23199664
Airlines were never a good investment, why would you invest when they're nearly bankrupt (again). Even if they "recover" they'll spend years paying off the debts they've incurred before another geopolitical anomaly inevitably fucks them over again.

>Cruise lines
Same thing except they don't even serve a necessary A-to-B transportation function and are purely a leisure item, one that can go out of style.

>> No.23199865

>>23199390
The trick is that even if precisely one pattern works and nothing else, it doesn't matter. You can still use that one pattern and win big.
The fact is, though, tons of patterns work. I have successfully traded 6 in either direction (i.e. bullish and bearish variants for all 6 patterns).

>> No.23199872

>>23199761
>but how do you know something will work even 51% of the time?
System has to function in an objective way. No feelsy feels and gut. You then take objective system of TA and test it against historical charts over and over. Measure point where your TA said buy to point your TA said sell. Do this hundreds of times on hundreds of charts. Collect your data and arrive at a general win percentage. If it's bad, tweak the system. In this way you can prove to a reasonable degree how your system will perform overall. You then use risk management to smooth out the wiggly tendencies of your trading, secure profits even though your TA says not to sell.

>> No.23199877

>>23199816
>how do you know?
>i don't. but im gonna do it anyways. hope i don't lose money kek!

that's basically your response in a nutshell.

>> No.23199902

>>23199872
any easy ways to automate backtesting large sample sizes, or do i have to learn how to code? i use ToS btw.

>> No.23199911

>>23199902
I don't know. I do it manually.

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>>23199742
>because no one beats america
except for rice farmers

>> No.23199917

>>23199910
>>23199910
>>23199910
hi
>>23199910

>> No.23199940

>>23199862
>why would you invest when they're nearly bankrupt
That is precisely why. Flying is going nowhere. If the companies are almost bankrupt it just means prices are at the bottom and will only go up.

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23199946

What do you guys think about BBRY?
BlackBerry has been down in the dumps ever since its catastrophic failure to push BB10 as a competitor to Android and iOS (I think around 2016 is when it hella tanked). Since then they have basically laid off like 3/4th of their staff and tried to pivot to infosec, cybersec, and iot in enterprise. These are all buzzwordy but they have a history of strong acquisitions. QNX specifically comes to mind.

The stock has languished for awhile but 2020 is the first year they have seen a YOY increase in sales since *2011*. That's nearly 10 fucking years ago (the company has failed to increase its YOY sales for a decade!). But they also incurred a fairly massive loss this year too.

Any thoughts on whether this is a potential turnaround to become a low-mid tier software company? QNX especially is used in highly specialized applications like cars, planes, nuclear, etc so they aren't completely "dumb". At its peak, BBRY was over $200. Right now its sitting at $6 and has been below ~$15 since like 2013. But it seems like now they have pretty much completed their transition to software. There's no more hardware being built by them at all. Can BBRY jump up to like $20-30?

FY sales operating_income net_income
2014 6,813 (7,163) (5,873)
2015 3,335 (423) (304)
2016 2,160 (223) (208)
2017 1,309 (1,181) (1,206)
2018 932 283 405
2019 904 60 93
2020 1,040 (149) (152)

>> No.23199950

>>23199761
nobody ever really knows. if you believe in the system you have picked strongly, and believe that it will yield good results, it will increase your risk tolerance. if you did actually pick a good system because of DD, then because of your increased risk tolerance you will make more money. contrast that with somebody with low risk tolerance who sort of believes in their system, but doesn't have full faith in it because they aren't really sure it is a good system because it might not be. nothing is guaranteed. faith+strong logic+sensible risk taking=profit

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WHY SHOULD I YOLO INTO NAK? WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE THEYRE GOING TO GET THE MINE?

>> No.23199962

>>23199877
Please shut up so I can focus on making this money.

>> No.23199984

>>23199344
Let's say TA does not work at all. If then enough people stated (irrationally) believing it works, it would actually start to work as it would create a predictable trend as a self-fulfilling prophecy. If a sell signal comes through and people started selling, the price would go down, making selling a good choice. So completely regardless of the fundamental value - as long as enough traders and algos believe in a fairly similar set of TA rules it does predict the markets (within limits obviously).

>> No.23199995

The portfolio I manage for my work uses a combination of fundamental analysis and simple technical analysis (basically noting 2+stdev moves and trends). We’re premium sellers and broadly long/short, so risk management is pretty inherent with the portfolio strategy.

>> No.23199999

>>23199848
>i understand the methodology of risk management
You probably don't, and it's not your fault. Lots of bullshit out there, and almost no good info.
>you don't necessarily know if you'll get 50% or whatever % you need to be profitable
Proper risk management means you can be wrong 100, 200, 1000 times in a row and barely take a hit to your account. That's a lot of trades. You can get plenty of accurate data from these trades, figure out what's wrong, fix it, try patterns and see which one does or does not work..., not to mention you can use paper trading for the same. That, too, is a kind of risk management strategy.
Only after you get the statistics you need do you ramp up your risk. THAT IS RISK MANAGEMENT. So it seems I was 100% on point about my opening comment.
>and how do you know that it's not a problem with your system and you should stop using it vs. just a statistical anomaly that will work itself out at some point?
By making more trades and derisking. You will never have good data on 10 trades. You need at least 100 trades and that's really pushing it. 300 trades starts to be a good sample.
Moreover, the overall system is either sane or not (either you lose more than you can afford or not). The rest is tuning: if you have the stats, you know that your winrate is 40% and that your RR is 1:1. First, 1:1 is shit no matter your winrate. Experiment for a way to fix it (are you being jitter and dropping out of trades early? Try bar-by-bar. Are you being stopped early often? Wider stop or pivot management. Always check what the optimal reasonable result for your trade was. If you went long, then stock went down all day, then it jumped to the moon, your entry was not reasonable and being stopped out was the optimal result for the entry. Then if entry is your problem, practice that).
Iteratively change one thing at a time and get 100-300 trades in. Recompute the stats, compare, etc.
It's a process.
The bootstrap is asking experts.

>> No.23200017

>>23199344
The market is just a giant feedback loop, so being able to see the source signal before the feedback can be hugely advantageous.

>> No.23200026

>>23199785
>No.. this won't happen.
Have you tried reading the news lately? It already happened. Some states put it up to votes and passed, some just changed without a vote.

>> No.23200042

>>23199999
Nice.

>> No.23200068

>>23200026
None of this matters because Trump will control the suprene court and call it a fraud election. Trump wins no matter what.

>> No.23200077

>>23196600
mnkd
lctx

>> No.23200118

>>23200068
I doubt trump would have the balls to do that. Civil war for real anyone?

>> No.23200140

>>23199984
>as long as enough traders and algos believe in a fairly similar set of TA rules it does predict the markets (within limits obviously)

what are the "fairly similar set of TA rules that enough traders and algos believe in", though?

>> No.23200144

>>23200118
Really? You think Trump is afraid of anything? I don't get that sense from him.

>> No.23200176

>>23200118
>onions latte gun control Democrats
>Fighting a civil war with good ol boys
Lol

>> No.23200201

>>23200176
They'll get the tramerican armyfags to do it for them, no worries.

>> No.23200215

>>23199940
>If the companies almost bankrupt the only way is up
Wrong, the *bond holders* can be bailed out to some degree but the *stock holders* will get nothing in a restructuring. And by the way, even if they avoid bankruptcy, why would the stock outperform? They'll have a huge debt load that will prevent them from making productive investments. By the way, if you assume it'll go back to the old stock price, you're implicitly assume air travel volume will recover as well, which is unlikely even after (if?) corona is defeated.

>> No.23200216

>>23200201
Army answers to Trump, retard.

>> No.23200242

>>23200216
Imagine believing this. They're super trannyfied nowadays. All the big boys are never trumpers, too.

>> No.23200253

>>23200215
>air travel volume will recover as well, which is unlikely even after (if?) corona is defeated.
You and everyone else is thinking very short term. Flying will be busier than ever in 5 years.

>> No.23200274

>>23200242
The military officially answers to Trump. Tranny detractors can join the Democrats in the civil war, I guess, and get killed.

>> No.23200312

>>23200274
We're talking about the scenario where the votes are in and it says biden won and trump says b-but court please say I won!
Not right this moment.
Also just because they officially answer to him doesn't mean shit, especially during conflicts.

>> No.23200326

>>23200312
In that scenario no one will know who the president is, and posession is 9/10ths of the Law. Trump will win or we will have a civil war.

>> No.23200388

>>23200326
god, I yearn for am*rican blood
>t. ame*rican

>> No.23200425

>>23196603
sorry she's mine and not publicly traded.
Try Baggie

>> No.23200438

>>23199857
I'd honestly be more worried if a predicted 85% happend 100% of the times. Clinton could have been a 96% favorite, still lost and it would have been a perfectly normal event. Rare things happen. Could be a cool stat test question to work out the odds of 85% confidence predictions being wrong across however many dozen elections have been where we have that kind of data.

But an 85% flip coming up on the 15% does not mean the odds are bullshit. It still was smart to bet on the 85% happening (but hedging for the 15%).

>> No.23200474

>>23200216
>Army answers to Trump, retard
If Trump pulls some kind of coup all his orders would be unlawful.

T. Was retarded enough to join the Army.