/biz/ - Business & Finance

i am monetarily upheaved

Is the fud ACTUALLY working on some people? Jesus some of you are dense. You’re going to witness the biggest percentage gain candle of your lifetimes. I will not elaborate any further.

>>23184346
yes just sold my stack

>>23184219
lmao i wish this was a gif like the link version. imagine the train coming into the station and them all jumping off the side of it onto the platform. there has to be some kind of .gif wizard kleros latrine that could make that for us.

>>23184052
Clement...not betray?

>>23184052
Mister, mister, pls buy Kleros, mister. I begging u. Pls do more needfuls to alleviate PNK into heavens..

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Good news anons! I voted coherently.
What should I spend my $16 on?

>>23185240
Aoba doll

>>23185286
What the fuck I just looked it up out of curiosity. Is this normal for weeb shit?

>>23185384
I didn't even bother, knew right away non of that weeb crap is gonna be under $16. Prob just get some meth or something.

>>23185037

>>23185462
I will note I have never gotten any ID color when posting my own meme than pink, and my ID confirms 1 PNK = 922k. Buy my fucking NFT to join my pajeet tyranny group. Pic related in reply

>>23184052
>Dumps sub .06

>>23184510
Agreed, perhaps if we're lucky some nupnker will make it for us when we hit 50 cents

>extremely bullish on PNK
>think it is the future of oracles, poh, and mainstream adoption of smartcontracting
>iron hands all the way down, keep buying more
>going to keep DCAing in while its under 50c
>go to a BAT/YFV/RLC/*insert shitcoin here*
>watch them all cope and say how the market is irrational and their chosen shitcoin is really worth $1-2b USD in MC
>realise that might be me
g-guys, kleros IS the future, r-right? I'm not just coping from losing all my gains?

>>23185742
I've stopped averaging, but never selling my stack. Who knows if it'll actually gain adoption, but it's gonna be months or years before we find out.

>>23185811
Checked and thanks. I think I'll buy another 30k in the next few weeks and reassess after I save up some more - I don't feel comfortable giving away too much of my cash when there's this much volatility, but I do want to get up to 250k pnk eventually.

It seems that the real reason any crypto has value is
>a) a use case which has been proven to work
>b) actual use occurring
>c) the team being around for a long time without walking away
I think the fact they've been developing revolutionary tech for years when the price was worth peanuts is huge. They've also put a lot of their personal reputations on the line - I don't think Federico would walk away from Kleros in the next 5 years. The fundamentals still haven't changed, and I think it'll get listed on coinbase and see significant coverage and potential adoption.

The only reason I'm not 100% in at this point is fear of a further market crash, and coinbase listing aragon, that useless fucking scamcoin, first.

>>23186001
realtalk, PNK is a great speculative play, but not something anyone should be 'all-in' on.

>>23186045
>PNK is a great speculative play
sir please elaborate because I'm an all-or-nothing chad

>>23184219
+100 PNK to this anon stat immediately!!!!!

>>23186111
>high risk, high reward

>kleros
>consensus of independent thought in an immutable digital ledger, incentivesed via game theory crypto-economics
>current applications include a result based betting site and a language translation freelance application
>Kleros jurors vote on the definition of words, sentences, phrases, or terms which can be made compositable into an alternative structure to legalese for contracts involving subjective human interpretation or independent thought consensus.
>Kanye West is complaining about shitty bloated legacy business agreements using courts of law are on Twitter
>Anons don't see the opportunity to partake in community driven consensus and opt-in alternative rule-books for the execution conditions of their smart contracts.

If I digitized my employement contract, and added a clause to permit me an extra week of paid time off in the event of a family tragedy, my employer would likely only agree on the terms that the funds at least go to an escrow service (haha) so there's opportunity for claim dispute to combat abuse. If I was choosing which escrow and dispute resolution service I wanted to use for my contract would I choose:
1) old and expensive lawyers that are likely friend with my boomer employer, or
2) a group of independent anonymous peers (verified to be my american peers thanks to a mix of LINKs CanDID and Kleros own PoH),
I'm going to bet on the anonymous peers to say my uncle dying does qualify as a tragic event in terms of my contract, and the tamper proof digital agreement will continue to function as designed from deployment, only relying or calling a session of Kleros "court" (which is really just a tool to verify humans agreed to a certain degree about a certain topic at a certain time) when the application or service, such as my employement contract, needs to perform an action in response to complex and inherently human question. I only have 5k. I want more.

wen $1 tho. that's the q.

>>23187386
A lot of people are going to be very pink when they sell at $1, it peaks to $1.70, then settles at $1.30 for a year and never touches their exit point ever again. They never rebuy or fomo back in at $4 like link.

>what an amazing morning to be on biz
*sip*

>>23187434
A lot of people will be very dead when the extend of this world wide fraud network goes public

>>23184052 if we don't touch 9c again by the end of the month i will be selling my 1m stack. the team is sitting on so much news about poh, linguo, layer 2, partnerships and other shit im starting to think they're losing motivation or marc zeller is no longer a believer.

inb4 ToK retards start seething

>>23188261
Sell now then

I have millions of PNK in various wallets bought from the beginning of Kleros' existence.

Will it 10x this year? I'm not sure but whilst the DeFi hype fads do their thing, Kleros will continue plugging away in the background for years to come.

They got one of the largest UNI airdrops of all ($2m worth when first dropped) due to being one of the earliest projects to provide liquidity en masse (based Clement strikes again)

This extra $2m means they'll never have to do a sale again, maybe all that PNK allocated from the WP era will never make it to sale either.

If BTC goes to even $50k (which looks more likely) PNK will be at $1 at some point during that Bull market.

It's quite an easy buy and hold despite all the recent dumps and FUD.

Reminder:

>Clement is literally Vitalik tier brainster.

Do people earnestly believe kleros isn't the dumbest fucking idea in crypto? Like do people believe this will actually be used one day? Im speechless.

>>23188413
>>23185462

>>23188442

reminder that vitalik unfollowed clement and klerosboard.com/graphs doesn't load anything

CLEMENT BETRAY

>>23188455
lmao

>>23188455

>>23188442
I'm sure the world will be jumping at the opportunity to put their arbitration needs in the hands of random 4chan NEETs with no real world experience or incentive to make an intelligent decison other than voting in the majority

>>23184052
SIRS PLEASE FILE THE MOTION
SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>23188675
Hey dingus, the shelling point use in kleros' crytpo-econ game has already been proven in multiple test runs and now live production on multiple products.

>>23186111

About 9 years ago, legal-oriented cryptoshitters started talking about something called CODR - Crowdsourced Online Dispute Resolution.

CODR is a real legal concept that various countries and NGO's have attempted to develop and implement for nearly two decades now, with varying levels of success, most of those levels being near nil.

The ODR part isn't an issue - if you google ODR or "online dispute resolution" right now, you'll find a ton of projects. the problem was the "crowdsourced" part.

Arbitration and dispute resolution are tightly regulated processes everywhere, which is to say: they're controlled by lawyers who are, in turn, controlled by laws written by ex-lawyers. Allowing Joe Schmo to be part of a dispute resolution process without "filtration" (a la jury selection or committee appoint ) was always a no-go.

The problem with this was that companies like Ebay and Amazon, who see shit tons of meaningless disputes between scammy vendors and scammy Karen customers don't like dealing with disputes in-house, they know that they could never write a set of dispute policies comprehensive enough to make everyone happy, and so they want easy ODR that takes the heat off their internal moderation teams and that doesn't require them paying lawyers. So companies like Ebay and Amazon pump a bunch of money into think-tanks to figure out a way around this shit, eventually coming up with bumpkiss. In the process, a bunch of lawyers actually become strange converts to this whole idea, and continue pursuing it even after tech companies stop funding it so heavily.

SO then comes Bitcoin, followed soon-ish thereafter by the Ethereum testnet. Convert Lawyers see their opportunity. Before the first ETH testnet is even fully burning, lawyers are lining up to start Decentralized Justice projects, with a bunch of them focusing on CODR.

Fast forward to 2020 - every single of of those projects is dead, founders moved on - except Federico Ast.

If you want any more spoon feeding you're gonna have to pay admission like the rest.

https://app.rarible.com/token/0xd07dc4262bcdbf85190c01c996b4c06a461d2430:28603:0xc1ca5a6007584961453e1148fbcfa9b2d6605a3a

>>23188772
>>23188784
This + PoH, and 24/7 live translation, and more

>>23188784
and you seem to need legal council, not some meme token

>>23188455
Hahahahahahaha. Imagine believing this.

>>23188455
>>23188621
destroyed

in his defense, I could not get the site to load at that moment either

>>23188820
>and you seem to need legal council

I'm quite alright my brother but thank you.

SEE U IN KLEROS COURTARINO

>>23185384
no, plastic models are usually like $15. don’t know what’s so special about that one

>I would like to buy 10 million PNK

>>23186891
Your reasoning starts well but ends stupidly. Maybe it's in your interest but you employer needs to agree as well, what about his interest?

>tranny faggot lost all his money

Just made this so that Kleros can x2 please sirs buy our bag of shit!!!!!!

just made the best meme of my fucking life

>>23191248
abhorrent

>>23191248
>>23191271
unironically make the new pnk meta pajeet tier shitty microsoft paint memes

>>23191271
Based, very nice

What are they gonna do about gas cost to vote

>>23191499
Something about Dai

I want to actually use Kleros but there are no onboarding cases to partake in :(

>>23190366
im british and poor anyways so being down £2k means absolutely nothing, not in this society. Do you really think I care about 'losing' money when I can't stop thinking about my country and how it used to be the largest empire to exist only for it to turn into the mess it is now? Yeah.....
bought 10k more pnk the other day btw
>>23191248
>>23191271
i like these, they're cute
>>23191499
they will possibly be using xdai in the future instead of eth or something, but yeah this >>23191607

>fud Kleros
>Suggest sta

>bruh you don't understand the usecase for my legal product using arbitration in a worldwide market on a currency with different laws and regulations within different countries bro. You stafags are delusion noooo you heckerinos it's gonna crab and dump to zero.

the only thing bad about PNK is the tranny avatarfag posting in every PNK thread

this is extremely bullish

>>23195054
yeah I'm out. I've sat on this coin for over a month now and it's gone nowhere but down. Plus the majority of you treated me like shit, but a few of you were really nice. Good luck, bye.

>>23195460
thank fuck the tranny got filtered

go shit up the STA threads now

>>23195054
>>23196232

>>23195460
Most of us genuinely don’t care, for what it’s worth. I‘ve literally never replied to you. But these boards are anon for a reason, generally speaking

>>23195460
Finally.

>>23195460
Why did you have to move into STA, trannyanon? Go shit up the XRP or UNI threads instead or something. At least dogshit anon was pretty funny

>>23190358
Being able to hire me? we're setting up a contract for my labor on my terms.

>>23184052
my pinkies stay stinky

I'll see every single one of you in the Kleros high court 8am Monday.

>>23195460
Thank fuck

>>23186045
true

>>23195460
bon voyage, transfag! we won't miss you

>>23195460
consider looking into surf whenever it gets released

im going to take you kleros faggots to kleros court

>>23195460
I really hope you’re joking, but if not we will miss you holiday-anon. Good luck.