/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23174716
First for fuck kikes

gold or silver? and why?

Posting my new silver shields again since I'm super excited to have gotten them today. I can post close ups again if any anons want as well

Is nazi gold worth more than regular gold? Is there any bars with aryan stamps in them left?

>>23174716
You forgot to put the comparison website for the EU

>>23174770

maybe if it dips during bitcoin's post-halving climb.

Just got a package in the mail with 50 dollars face junk, paid 868 for it on eBay. Now I have almost 500 oz of junk, woop!

>>23174716
Buying Silver !

>>23174802
>Is nazi gold worth more than regular gold? Is there any bars with aryan stamps in them left?
I think a genuine nazi gold bar would go for hundreds of thousands above spot. Most were melted down then recast by the Swiss to conceal their involvement, and the rest was probably stolen by the Allies or Soviets. There’s probably a few gold bars left in the families of Nazis that fled to South America

>>23174761
gold has a better usecase, silver is manipulated vaporware with a ton of promises and tons of moonbois

>>23174877
>500 oz of junk
nice. wish i had that kind of hoard

>>23174907
Don't forget the Nazi gold the Vatican holds they took as payment to smuggle people out.

I bet that's stashed away in their vaults. If there's one place I'd love unhindered access to explore...

>>23174919

silver has many uses, least of all currency

>>23174877
>Now I have almost 500 oz of junk, woop!
You could probably buy 10 sex slaves with that anon, congratulations

Can someone redpill me on precious metals? Where is the go-to price index of precious metals? What are the returns like on precious metals? Is it a slow, solid investment?

I finally got my replacement in the mail. The first one I got had a deep scratch on Elizabeth's face and a bunch of small ones on the doggo.

>>23174919
>cryptocoin is manipulated vaporware with a ton of promises and tons of moonbois
*ftfy

I got roughly $150 to spend, any suggestions on what to get?

>>23174986
Now I have the whole set.

>>23174991

with eth considering proof of stake, i think the writing is on the wall. btc is on borrowed time but it would be a mistake to exit too early.

>>23174716
Hey I'm new to metals but big into chemistry, think more shit than Cody from Cody's lab.

I'm interested in refining my own shit but eBay golds a meme at this point and way above spot. Obviously you can't keep your money in dollars anymore due to inflation, so I'd like a "cold storage".

I was thinking about tantalum, platinum, palladium, silver, and iridium scrap. Any advice? Also what about other metals?

>>23174961
feature creep and promises not fundamentals
>>23174991
silver is the crypto of metals

>>23174959
>Zakuro
based cute, yet powerful girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rmu7ilhcyk&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=Iwanttodie

>>23174716
is the nazi imagery really necessary OP? nazis were arguably the most evil group to ever exist. keep that shit in /pol/ im here to discuss gold

A question for the anons debating MMT vs gold standard currency in the last PMG thread:

What are your thoughts on the first and second national banks of the early United States and the Hamiltonian policy of an government that uses its largesse and credit-worthiness to finance and construct massive revenue-generating infrastructure projects?

>>23175047
>feature creep and promises not fundamentals
you just described the state of the entire investment, banking, commerce & monetary system


Silver is merely an innocent bystander in this, just like most other things. Most here understand this

>>23175087
>nazis were arguably the most evil group to ever exist
NGMI

>>23174919
Unless you're talking exclusively about Use cases in trading, silver has plenty of use cases in electronics.

>>23175087
>M-M-MUH HOLOHOAX!!!

>>23174877
Show us your junk!

Anon buy Silver!

>>23175152
>killed millions of innocent people in a brutal fashion
how can you possibly even debate that they're not evil? not even trolling but just curious what's wrong with you people

>>23175164
L E w D

>>23174716
What are the odds someone gets FWTDHAHQUD as their ID?

>>23175087
>He says this as US taxpayers literally pay sluts to have their own children cut to pieces
>He says this as some states are turning little boys into trannies without the parents permission

>>23175173
Is there evidence that this actually happened?

>>23175141
kek
>silver
>innocent
PMbois just have to present themselves as victims, metal speculators have never done nuffin no how
>>23175162
gold historically is a superior hedge against inflation which at least for now is the only legitimate use case for PMs

>>23175087
It would be one thing if op was promoting nazism. This is purely objective discussion. Go slurp up some more main stream media soup cuck

>>23175087

>>23175087
I'd gladly argue for the merits of Libertarian society over Socialism(National or otherwise), but I'm too busy being poor and trying to make enough money for a homestead. Something for (((you))) to consider.

>>23175238
>gold historically is a superior hedge against inflation which at least for now is the only legitimate use case for PMs

most silver mined is consumed for industrial purposes. it is inherently useful. i only invest in useful things. not to say gold isn't, it would be my next choice.

>>23175173
kys.
we dont celebrate the untold death and loss of the US civil war. but we remember it and honor the memory of it as a memoir of the price that was paid to get where we are and to remember not to repeat it. the confederate flag is an honorous symbol of those who believed in freedom and the right to rule themselves
it might not have been right. but to burn and erase these things from public speech and our history is the height of folly

just like you faggots crying over "muh evil nazis"

>>23175173
kys.
we dont celebrate the untold death and loss of the US civil war. but we remember it and honor the memory of it as a memoir of the price that was paid to get where we are and to remember not to repeat it. the confederate flag is an honorous symbol of those who believed in freedom and the right to rule themselves
it might not have been right. but to burn and erase these things from public speech and our history is the height of folly

just like you faggots crying over "muh evil nazis"

>>23175351
>>23175344
???????

>>23175039
>big into chemistry

Based. I dabble, got fun stuff like Gallium, Elemental Iodine, Calcium Hydride etc stocked up along with gobs of pure APIs which may be useful going forward.

>I was thinking about tantalum, platinum, palladium, silver, and iridium scrap.

I'm a silver scrapper (gold occasionally) and while you could potentially line up sources of PGM scrap it's not plentiful, nor are they monetary metals which is quite relevant now. Definitely some opportunities scrapping palladium though, as some older components used healthy quantities back before the price mooned.

Gold jewelry and other scrap gold (pen nibs are fun) is easy enough to get but I focus almost exclusively on silver now, buying cheap sterling off eBay and getting it refined and returned for less than $20/Ozt total currently.

If funds are more limited than time then it may be lucrative, I've snagged amazing deals but the general rule is to pay $0.50/gram or less for the sterling.

what's the important stuff you look for when you look at a miner's financials?

Not even a Jew, but you’d be hard-pressed to make the argument that Nazi Germany was a particularly strong advocate of precious metal currency.

To be fair, very few governments of the past century were. Britain probably had the strongest record overall of supporting precious metals among the Western powers, but after the first war this position was decisively smashed.

I think if /pmg/ has a spiritual homeland, it is probably South Africa. They had circulating gold and silver coins well into the late 1970s, something almost unheard of anywhere else. They also played a role in getting Americans to start buying gold again through their enthusiastic promotion of the gold Krugerrand, which was so successful Congress actually passed a law to specifically curtail it as a result of anti-apartheid activist lobbying (they were worried it was becoming too lucrative for the country).

>>23175400
Anon do you have a guide on sterling hallmarks? I want to start cruising garage sales looking for them but I don’t know anything about them

>>23175039
>Also what about other metals?

Pewter. Tin is a relatively valuable (~$9/lb) and especially easy to handle base metal. At 92% tin or higher, pewter items like platters and pitchers weighing several pounds are worth collecting if you find them for a buck or 2 at thrift stores or flea markets. Melt them down, pour 1lb pewter bars then sell them on eBay to toy soldier and trinket casters for $10-12/lb.

Trust me it's pretty slick, most people totally ignore pewter and it adds up fast.

>>23175235
Yes, there's tons of evidence of Nazis committing war crimes against captured soldiers and European gentile civilians in other countries. You should go visit the topography of terror in Berlin which contains archives and exhibits of this evidence of crimes the Nazis committed against non jews.

>>23175395
PMG is flooded with these bots/shills anon... best get used to it, it will only get worse as they get more desperate.

redpill me on uranium, the bull case shared by people like rick rule seems compelling. worth looking more at?
alternatively, would getting into clean energy be worth it? it's still inefficient, expensive, and all around shitty but in the event Biden wins he'll throw trillions of dollars at the sector

Sigh...

Spending $2K on gold is like a 2 month journey of busting my butt like crazy. I will be breaking 200oz of silver this month. I've come to the conclusion that ounce I'm at 200oz (or more) this month than I will be stepping up the gold game. It can't be helped. Anons always say premiums are too high for anything less than 1oz of gold, but 1/4th oz is a feasible thing to start up at with gold.

>>23174790

I'm not an ancap, so don't have any problem with government spending on infrastructure which is actually useful, especially when it is kept in check by a gold standard. But Alexander Hamilton believed in protectionist tariffs, high taxation, public debt, and other things which I don't like. I also don't like central banks, and see them as unnecessary. On the other hand, in some ways, Alexander Hamilton is unjustly abused on the internet, because of Greenbackers. He wanted a central bank partly because he wanted to put the U. S. on a gold standard, in other words on a system of sound money. People started to hate central banks because of the Ron Paul Revolution in 2008; and the Greenbackers, attaching themselves to that movement, implied that gold was a part of Hamilton's evil scheme, and that it would be better to go back to a system of Colonial Scrip. They deluded and misled the Ron Paul supporters by doing this; because the Ron Paul was against the Fed because he wanted a return to gold, whereas the Greenbackers want to abolish the Fed simply in order to have Congress print paper money directly, and employ MMT. This would be 100x worse than Hamilton's gold-backed central bank.

In regard to Greenbackers, see https://www.garynorth.com/public/department141.cfm

>>23175485
Are you a burger? If so, the vast majority of sterling silver items you'll see are unambiguously stamped "sterling" or .925, English hallmarks are a bit more confusing at first but excellent online resources exist so you can just bring the phone and start cruising sales now, good luck!

>>23175163

You don't need the Holocaust to condemn Hitler as evil. He started a war which got 10 million Europeans killed, in order to prop up his failing paper-money Keynesian welfare state.

>>23175235
>>23175563
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinkt_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciepiel%C3%B3w_massacre
etc.
I'm not even someone who thinks the Nazis are the most evil. The Soviets were worse.
Nazi propaganda and asthetics were also top notch.
I don't really give a shit about the holocaust, but the Nazis were fucking assholes and they probably would've considered you a degenerate and fucked you over sooner or later if they actually ran the society you lived in.

>>23175650
Is the Rick Rule video on advocating uranium publically available? The markets are so manipulated and fucked that pure sentiment can make meme stocks coast for years compared to actual practical things like Nuclear. Solar and Wind will cost trillions of dollars to fuel manufacturing, while Nuclear is simply a logically better choice, but I genuinely believe public idiocy and political pandering could keep them as bags to hold for a very long time.

>>23175400
>buying cheap sterling off eBay and getting it refined and returned for less than $20/Ozt total currently
Teach me..

I also think the Nazi gold bars and reichsmarks look cool, keep posting them, I don't give a shit.

>>23175721
>the vast majority of sterling silver items you'll see are unambiguously stamped "sterling" or .925
Is it really that easy? How many fake sterling silver items are there coming from China? Yes I am a burger btw

>>23175554
Are pewter items marked? How do you know something is pewter

>>23175700
>>23175740
Oh God the shill is back, faggots like these really make me contemplate signing up on The Silver Forum

>>23175761
I mean I probably agree with everything you said, except that I am actually German,
I don't have sex with strangers, and I lead a pretty normal productive life,
so I don't think they would have seen me as a degenerate.

>>23175761
>linking Wikipedia
Unironically ngmi

>>23175805

>Yes I am a burger btw

>>23175824

>Oh God the shill is back

Hahaha. Nothing more funny than a neo-Nazi who is also a yank. You must seriously believe that you have "pure" blood, eh.

>>23175700
Thank you. But aren’t protectionist tariffs a good thing for a nation that is either building or rebuilding (US is the latter seeing as how our economy is circling the drain)? Wouldn’t you need those tariffs to reestablish a robust manufacturing and industrial base, seeing as how the US has offloaded ours to foreign markets?

>>23175740
The war was going to happen regardless of who claimed power in Germany.
I don't think you realize why people voted for him in the first place if you can't see what the US, England, France, Russia, and international business families had done to the German people after WW1.

Anyone buy this? This is the only serious unbiased gold/silver analysis

>>23175235
A lot of evidence yes. But then again there's also many interpretations and many argue against the mythical "6 million". That number is accepted among historians and they know more about this than both of us I'm sure. However, I digress: what's important isn't the amount that died but the fact that these things really did happen. The Soviets were arguably even worse

>>23175922
Can I get a tldr?

>>23175650
uranium is a long term play. Basically barring a white swan even where massive progress is made in alternate energies (fusion is more probably then adequate solar for example) then fission is the next few centuries best option for power.

Currently uranium i sold for less than the cost to produce. but it is a lonnnnnnng term play, right now my personal opinion is that we would so early as to basically be "wrong" even though it is fundamentally the right play.

Id say do lots and lots of research now, because uranium is a very esoteric and complicated industry, have some plays planned out well in advance. Just dont expect to make them too soon, and be prepared to hold.

>>23175842
Alright go do your own primary research then instead of talking shit. Show me how those pow and civilian massacres didn't happen. You sound like one of those librarians trying to defend their careers after the internet took off.
>>23175840
Good for you. I'd say you posting on an anime forum is questionable but you'd likely get a pass.

>>23175911
Yes Germany was justified going to war after how hard they got fucked after WW1. They committed a shitload of war crimes though and it's understandable why someone from say Belgium would fucking hate them. Everyone was a piece of shit to each other back then.

>>23175650
>>23175977
Oh, but one thing I do know about a Uranium play is to make sure whichever country the mine is in is friendly with China and intends to keep it that way. The Chinese are actually building new Nuclear reactors and will be the largest consumer of uranium resources going forward.

>>23174716
I swear to God if every board had flags like /pol/ JIDF would be out of a job overnight

>>23175805
Silver is easy to verify. It has unique magnetism properties and its thermal conductivity is super high. If you can't tell silver from fake silver you're probably not cut out for pm.

>>23176089
You're really autistic.

Why do these threads keep getting raided by anti-gold standard, pro-central banking nazi shills? They never have any arguments and are very confused.
Imagine trying to get the PM thread to support MMT.
Retards.

>>23176075
yeah things like that will be important to know. Lot of places are low key ramping up more reactors, even canada has SMR's planned for the next decade

>>23175805
>Is it really that easy? How many fake sterling silver items are there coming from China?

Basically that easy, though beware of "weighted" or "filled" things like candlestick holders, they are just thin sterling sheet metal filled with pitch or cement and yield 10-15% sterling, rest is filling.

The Chinese (and Italians) do make fake sterling, but it's basically all jewelry. I usually avoid fiddly jewelry anyway as sterling tableware and other antique items are legit and much heavier.

>>23175821
>Are pewter items marked?

Yeah, just like sterling. Pewter items are stamped "pewter" or "xx% Tin" (Or "Zinn" for german pewter) so it's pretty easy. Pewter is a rather distinct and memorable sort of alloy so it's extremely easy to identify even across a room after handling it a bit.

>>23175112
Abolish all central banks and throw them in prison.

>>23176146
its just shills arguing both sides of the ebil nazi debate that belongs on /pol, likely to get these threads derailed/shut it down

>>23175881

A chief reason why U. S. manufacturing has vanished is actually because of the paper-money system, and the fact that the dollar is the world reserve currency. It's similar to what happened to Spain during the Renaissance, which, after making its gold discoveries in the New World, would send its raw goods to the Netherlands, rather than make use of them itself. There's little incentive for people to manufacture anything in the U. S.; when you have a money-printing machine which can devour the wealth of the world, and run up enormous deficits, why would you? The moral hazard is too great. Further to that, Austrian economists would say that tariffs (along with taxes and regulations) actually hurt manufacturing, and that the tariffs which America already has are a chief cause of its manufacturing loss. You can read the argument for this here:

https://spectator.org/tariffs-a-threat-to-americas-gdp/

Ron Paul, "Tariffs are not the answer": https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/03/ron-paul/tariffs-are-not-the-answer/

"The biggest cause of our economic problems is the Federal Reserve. America’s experiment with fiat currency has enabled a system based on private and public debt. This makes trade imbalances inevitable as the US government needs foreign investors to purchase its debt. Foreign investors get the money to purchase the US government’s debt by selling products to American consumers. A trade war could cause foreign investors to stop buying US debt instruments and could end the dollar’s world reserves currency status. This would cause a major economic crisis — but at least it would stop our shores from being flooded with "cheap foreign goods.""

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/09/gary-north/the-dollar-as-the-world-reserve-currency/

Gary North: "The present system of reserve currencies favors the United States government and American consumers. It is a subsidy to exports to the USA by way of holding down interest rates for U.S. government debt."

>>23175824
>muh shills
You faggots literally support central banking yet call us shills.
Go back to your neetsoc threads you dumb bootlicker.
Fuck shitler and fuck MMT

>>23175443
I look at their current cash situation, total equity, debt and total liabilities. If the debt-to-equity ratio is high (say, over 70% or even over 100%) I tend to be more careful because when the debt bubble pops that leverage could bankrupt the company. Also, even if they don't have debt but they have more liabilities than equity I also tend to be more vary of investing in them. Cash is always great to have, the more cash they have the more hits they can take. Liquidating equities during a bad financial situation isn't optimal so cash is important.

Income and return for investment are unnecessary for an exploration company because they won't be making profits when there isn't any production going on, but a company can have positive cash flow through financing or investments which are worth checking out. For a company in production it's important to look at their OPEX and compare it to the profits they can make with the mined concentrates, and for a company that's planning to open a mine it's important to see their projected CAPEX for starting production, and follow how well they are able to increase production. Remember to read feasibility studies and other related papers companies release, those are important and usually are able to predict how long a project goes on and how long it takes to pay back for your investment. Metal prices affect profits directly.

If I forgot to add something or got something wrong, somebody please correct me. I'm still kinda new at this too

>>23176214
>>23175881

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/09/mike-mish-shedlock/trumps-unwinnable-trade-war-gold-explains-why/

Michael Shedlock: "It is impossible for tariffs to fix problems caused by making the dollar the world’s reserve currency then removing the last constraints on global deficit spending!

If you support Trump’s tariffs as some sort of cure to trade imbalances, please read the above sentence over and over again until it finally sinks in that Trump is on a foolish path.

From 1866 to 1968 the US generally had a trade surplus.

The US had huge trade surpluses during and just after WWI and WWII.

Gold provided an enforcement mechanism against mercantilism, massive deficit spending, and huge government subsidies.

Starting August 15, 1971, when Nixon closed the gold window, there has been no enforcement mechanism.

That’s a problem that tariffs cannot possibly cure.

Nixon said it was “temporary”.

Guess what? It wasn’t.

Tariffs cannot possibly fix this issue.

Tariffs can only make matters worse by increasing costs on consumers and industries.

Trump is barking up the wrong tree, and loudly."

>>23176214
Based Austrian economics poster.
Keep redpilling the hitlerites in these threads, you are doing god's work.

>>23176230
Also forgot to add that producing assets (working mines) are even more important than cash of course. But cash is important for small-caps and exploration companies

>>23176225
>You faggots literally support central banking yet call us shills.
Please show me the post where I announced my support for privately owned banks Mr. JIDF

Anyone know when the price increase at the US might happens?

>>23176058
>it's understandable why someone from say Belgium would fucking hate them
Like this one?

>>23176198
Don't forget that if you try to bring the discussion back to PM's you're automatically a Jew and are part of the big conspiracy and shit
It's not like this thread is about PM's anyways, and it's not like there's an entire board dedicated for political discussion

>>23176274
>privately owned banks
Do you not even know what central banks are?
Do you know when know what you claim to support?
Hitler forced central banking fiat on his population. He stood for everything we're against in these threads.
Gold/Silver stackers support Austrian economics and Ron Paul.
Holy fuck you're dumb, go back to /pol/

>>23176259
>>23176214
Based, Keynesian monetary system just doesn't work.

>>23176330
>Hitler forced central banking fiat on his population. He stood for everything we're against in these threads.
I have never once mentioned Hitler in this thread, it seems like you and your shill friends did that as evidenced by >>23175740

Anons i urge you at this point to go do your own research with all of the discussion going on. I dont know enough on the subject to present an opinion, but with all the /macro/ discussion on this board lately, it wouldnt surprise me if the JIDF has sent their squads to try and mislead free thinking anons.
Money is the core of all other conspiracies and I would argue most of the evil in this world. We are the closest to understanding the truth, so again it wouldnt surprise me if they are using some tactics to try and lead us down the wrong path, thus making us think we have the answers when in fact we do not.
Stay vigilant anons

>>23176274
>central banking
>privately owned
holy shit

I just found out that Canada's Central Banks are playing with the idea of Negative Interest rates today. Aside from having people rush to buy more houses and stocks. How would Precious metals perform in a negative interest environment?

>>23176230
thanks fren

>>23176294
I mean, I'm sure there's some belgians who like nazism. There's russian neo Nazis today.

>>23175087
evil is purely subjective and a meme buzzword for normies to go `evil man bad`

>>23176330
There was this one speech had on why he didn't back their currency by gold.
If I'm not mistaken, Churchill tried to bring the gold standard back but it turned out to be an economic failure.
I think Hitler said that the currency was backed by labor. Don't quote me on this.

>>23176442
Remember anyone who mentions JIDF shills is automatically a neo-nazi from /pol/

>>23175685
I hear that. I'm WAAYYY late to the game and only had enough to buy just a 1/4 oz 2020 AGE and a generic 10oz bar of silver. Hoping the premium on the coin will pay for itself. But I had to grab guns and ammo as well (you never know what happens, eh?)
And even if you save, prices are still going up regardless

>>23176465
Glad to help. I'll also add more about cash: The more cash they have, the less leverage (debt) they need, which is good in the long run. Don't forget to look at previous quarters/years and compare the financing. If they've made a lot of investments like buying properties or doing drilling projects, their financials will obviously look worse so remember to look at what they've been doing, too -- don't just blindly look at the data, try to apply it to real life

>>23176519
Dude you're a retard who doesn't know how central banks work shut the fuck up
You need help. Here, educate yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe0bXAIuk0

>>23176519
>muh neo nazis
Literal cringe catch phrase by leftwing faggots. Kys
>muh from /pol/
>t. /leftypol/

>>23176462
Apparently the Canadian government is budgeted for so called "Corona Camps" with other uses other than dealing with Corona. I cant wait to see how far down the toilet my county really can go.

>>23174959
It's obvious you've never been.

>>23176569
Are you unable to recognize irony?

>>23176585
What the fuck. Smells like FEMA

>>23176442
>muh JIDF boogieman
I'd tell you to fuck off if you hadn't posted pics of silver earlier in the thread

>>23176613
i am thinking their going to be a "just in case" plan for people running away from the US incase of violence, but who knows. It doesnt make sense to need outside storage sites for live corona patients.

>>23175464
So what you are saying is America is the real enemy.

>>23176622
>implying JIDF doesn't exist
Okay moshie
Tell me whats wrong with telling anons to do their own research? You must be scared

>>23176610
My bad anon. There's a lot of shilling going on here and wasn't completely sure if serious or not.

>>23176585

I get the feeling that we will see some extreme riots later in 2021 and onwards. I wouldn't be surprised if these camps become de-facto prison tents too. But a US-refugee style camp seems plausible at the same time. Jesus Christ just thinking about it makes me more fearful.

>>23176673
Yeah something definitely smells super fishy there, especially this late in the game. How long have those camps been being built/planned, do you know?

>>23176425
>I have never once mentioned Hitler in this thread
You people constantly do in the other threads and think hitler's economy was an economic miracle or something.
Why are you being so dishonest?

>>23176517
>I think Hitler said that the currency was backed by labor
Lmao that's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

>>23176569
But we are literally more right wing than you.
You support left wing economy policies like MMT and central banking.

>>23176445
They literally have no idea what they're talking about lmao

>>23175087
the number of discrediting replies you're getting are exactly what I was talking about in the previous thread >>23167731
>the minute they're spotted, they deflect blame to another party. classic russian tactic

If you made a similar post on /g/ you'd be called a SJW, antifa, a plebbitor, a tranny. If you made it on a french board, you'd be called a muslim. same tactic, different triggers.

I also warned about them taking over the OP pics >>23167782 because that was the turning point for /g/ >>23167847

>>23167030
>The more your enemies react, the more you're onto something.

the fact the thread is swarming with /pol/tards doesn't help the deflection of every problem in history to JIDF. I wish they would think outside of their rigid ideology and realize the more subtle comments and posts are *by design* for arousing strong emotions and increase hatred, bickering, and division.

>>23175922
It's worth the money.

Brass anon from the last thread (or one before that?), I'm starting to sand my brass bar. I'm a total fucking brainlet so I don't know if its gonna work but I want to sand it enough to even the full side so all these little casting holes are gone. Probably more suited to post at /diy/ but like I said I'm stupid as fuck and don't know how to finish metal (and I'm too ignorant to learn).

>>23176730
I get the same feeling as well. I really hope things don't get violent but its probably already too late to stop. Also here is a vid from the Ontario government discussing these camps so I am not coming off as crazy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzWLlfwfD4Y&t=95s

>>23176485
You should look into him. He wasn't some rando. Same with Oswald Mosley. Things could have gone differently.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AMuoqdwoUk7q/

>>23176745
Where the fuck did i say I supported central banking? Fucking topkek seriously kys

>>23175922

Holy crap this is 300USD? that money could be used to buy more gold and silver instead!

>>23176755
>the fact the thread is swarming with /pol/tards doesn't help the deflection of every problem in history to JIDF. I wish they would think outside of their rigid ideology and realize the more subtle comments and posts are *by design* for arousing strong emotions and increase hatred, bickering, and division.
If you disagree with them, you're automatic a jew. They're like commies that call anyone they don't like a liberal or reactionary.
They can't think out of their simplistic low iq binary
Also, before anyone calls me a jew, I fucking hate Israel.

>>23176742
I have no idea how long this has been in planning, knowing our government though its probably been around at least since the spring. Whats interesting is these camps and sites are ear marked for "other persons". Thats not insane at all.

>>23176804
Classic straw man tactic, claim we support something that we obviously don’t then endlessly kvetch about it

>>23176804
Oh, so you think hitler's economic policies were terrible then?
Okay, glad we agree! :)

>>23176462
Negative interest rates would effectively just buy more time to the economy that's already running on fumes. Negative interest rates would give central banks the chance to artificially lower interest rates when they already hit 0%, meaning the debt bubble would continue inflating as long as there are people ready to buy aftermarket bonds, and sell them at a profit when interest rates go even more negative. This will go down the same way real estate does: when people aren't willing to pay an exorbitant amount for a bond because they're afraid that a "greater fool" won't then buy it from them.

The debt bubble itself is inescapable because GDP is increasing slower than debt, meaning that the US is essentially paying its debt with more debt. As long as GDP increases slower than debt, the debt cannot be paid for without more debt. The equity market suffers from this and needs stimulus to keep going up so the Fed prints out more money, buys government bonds and that way increases the debt burden while the government injects stimulus with its new money, hot from the presses.

There are effectively negative yields everywhere around the world right now, even if only Japan and Europe have negative interest rates. This is because the yield of 10-year bonds is smaller than the inflation of a currency. This is called "Return Free Risk" and it applies to the U.S. at least, and looking at Canada's yields and inflation rate, it seems it applies to Canada as well. George Gammon made a great video about this, I urge you to watch it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RViGGmxOk9A&ab_channel=GeorgeGammon

>>23176442
two rules for sucess:

No more brother wars
No more fiat currency

>>23176848
>national socialists don't support central banking and fiat currency
Now THIS is a new one.
Lmao you people don't even know what you believe in anymore.

>>23176878
>No more fiat currency
That means no more national socialism though...
:(

>>23175740


Just lol @ libertarians stuck in the Ron Paul mindset still getting buttmad at keynesianism

The period of Keynesianism (post-war until the early 1970s) was arguably the last time capitalism worked for the average American. After that, financial markets were deregulated, outsourcing was allowed and wages stagnated and wage growth decoupled from increases in productivity.

Not saying a return to keynesianism would be a magical fix, but it certainly isn't the evil boogeyman people who haven't outgrown their libertarian phase make it out to be

>>23176820
It's complicated this time. Things are not going to turn out as you expect and timing is important. $300 is anywhere from a half day work to 3 days. It's affordable.

>>23176878
>>>23176519
blessed

>>23176897
>>national socialists don't support central banking and fiat currency
>Now THIS is a new one.
>Lmao you people don't even know what you believe in anymore.
I never said I was a National Socialist.
I never said I supported central banking.
I never said I supported fiat currency.
Your strawmen are so painfully obvious

>>23176716
>arguing in bad faith
sasuga
Anons should do their own research, I encourage it. But I don't think it's very healthy to call everybody who disagrees with your views some member of a foreign organization, just to discredit their opinion. I've seen a bunch of you guys calling other posters samefags and JIDF agents in these threads. It's much like the leftists who call others Russian bots/trolls just because they disagree.

>>23176745
>Lmao that's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
Ok. This is where you can read up on it, as I think it was in reference to this.
https://positivemoney.org/2016/01/qe-for-people-in-germany-moving-beyond-weimar-a-history-of-qe-for-people-part-6/

>>23176519
my portfolio is PANMAN approved. Based small caps anon also approved of it, I can put my toilet paper into it safely and retire in 8 years.

>>23176928
>stuck in the Ron Paul mindset
We're literally right about everything and keynesian style policies have utterly destroyed the economy.
If you're unironically a keynesian, you are the enemy and need to get out of these threads.
>The period of Keynesianism (post-war until the early 1970s)
This wasn't keynesianism at all, we were still on a semi-gold standard and had a much smaller government.
Nixon getting us off the gold standard in 1970 is what created the modem neo-keynesian era with unlimited money printing and government spending.

>>23176941
Then why are you arguing with me? I'm trying to argue against the hitlerite brainlets that frequent these threads.

Does anyone here have a good safe to store their stack in? I want to get a safe, but I reckon I'm really going to have to pay lots for an actual decent quality one that isn't cheap shinese steel.

>>23176519
Neo anything tends to be shit. Remember the neogeo?

>>23175173
Present your evidence, if you are even allowed to collect it in your country.
The holohoax wasn't even damning numbers compared to other wars.
As far as if the holohoax actually happened, even if it did, it was well deserved... Just look at the collective crimes of the "by pure coincidence" Jews owning the media, brothels, theatres, banks, and politicians.
I can justify my stance based in their "pure coincidental" lack of ethics, and persistence against their neighbors.

>>23174770

>>23176863
As i said here >>23176442 I dont have enough information on the subject to formulate a solid opinion.

>>23176945
Anon its not that I disagree with them, as I've said I need to do more research myself. What I do see is shill tactics and possible misinformation. Im telling anons to be wary and do their own research before doing an opinion. I didn't even lead towards one opinion or another in my OP

>>23176878
Based

>>23176848
Reminder: this guy thought central banks are privately owned, see: >>23176274

You know maybe you shouldn't talk about economics

>>23177035
>doing an opinion
Formulating an opinion

>>23174749
yeah, I'm thinking based

>>23176928
Also this
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

It's hilarious to see you leftists repeat the same debunked mainstream narrative over and over.
I bet you think capitalism caused the great depression and government fixed it too.

>>23177012
>Then why are you arguing with me? I'm trying to argue against the hitlerite brainlets that frequent these threads.
Because you’re a shill. There are no Hitlerites that frequent this general and you’re just making up a strawman

The Hungarians lost like 2 million in WW1 and no one gives a shit. There is a long list of similar real events.

>>23177070
based
depression of 1920-21, where government essentially did nothing, should be a lesson to everyone

>>23177019
I’d recommend a good capacity floor safe to store your PM’s in, much more inconspicuous than a conventional safe that any and every burglar will recognize has valuables in it

>>23177035
>Anon its not that I disagree with them, as I've said I need to do more research myself.
>Im telling anons to be wary and do their own research before doing an opinion.
Ok. That's what people should strive for, that's good.
>What I do see is shill tactics and possible misinformation.
Where? Why assume an entity at all? Occam's Razor, look it up
>I didn't even lead towards one opinion or another in my OP
>I dont know enough on the subject to present an opinion, but with all the /macro/ discussion on this board lately, it wouldnt surprise me if the JIDF has sent their squads to try and mislead free thinking anons.
You really do seem to lean towards the idea that there are JIDF shills/agents in these very threads trying to do Jewish trickery to mislead anons. I don't know, maybe I misinterpreted but that's what it seems like to me. It's good to be vary and to think critically, I agree, but I just think you're painting boogeymen on the wall

Everyone that has gold and silver is a Nazi. Only if... this would have been over long ago.

>>23177113
What did he shill?

>>23177012
Yes, Ron Paul was right about a lot of things, but anyone with a brain has since outgrown libertarianism and moved on to the dissident right.

I literally said I don't think a return to keynesianism is feasible. but the fact is that when it was official policy, the system was working for the average american.

> This wasn't keynesianism at all
It literally was. Whether or not you have a gold standard is not the defining feature of keynesianism.


I don't believe in fiat money, that's why I buy gold. But the problem is not keynesianism or "big government", it's hostile elites that have decided that what was once your country is now going to be an economic zone of the global market that will resemble a favela before long in terms of demographics and living standards

O heres some interesting news to do with Osisko and the Barkerville Gold Project. https://www.northernminer.com/news/osisko-royalties-spins-out-gold-developer-raises-100m/1003823327/#.X3-wM29tAs8.facebook

>>23177258
Yeah I read that a couple of days ago, thanks for telling pmg about that site. I wonder when the new company gets listed, and at what price

>>23176673
likely for dissidents, anyone who refuses the mask, the vaccine, or whatever else is cooked up between now and then.

>>23177212
>What did he shill?
He’s shilling the idea that there are neo-nazis in the thread that support central banking and fiat currency. Literally nobody is doing that and he’s using it as a straw man to deflect against the people pointing out his shilling

>>23177217
>but the fact is that when it was official policy, the system was working for the average american
Communism also worked for a while, until reality started knocking on the door

>>23177276
I usually have more up to date info, I hadn't heard of this yet but its very interesting to see. Also I would expect they get listed early in the new year after the legal teams are all done.

>>23176923
Good.

It was a horrible failure that did nothing but destroy the best men of the west.

>>23177258
Please based Pan Man can you rescue this thread and educate us about the Osisko mining and royalty companies?

>>23177303
>He’s shilling the idea that there are neo-nazis in the thread that support central banking and fiat currency.
Well considering the types of replies >>23175087 got I'm not really surprised he thinks that way. As for central banking, you have some learning to do, as you previously made it clear you have no idea what they even are. How do you know whether or not you support them if you don't know anything about them? Again I urge you to watch the video I linked, educate yourself and learn

In any case this jews vs nazis discussion belongs on >>>/pol/

post stacks

So I was going through my change and was able to find some old coins. Do Canadian coins contain silver if they were made in 1968? Or is before 1968? Also the coin on the far right said 1967-1992. Does that mean it was made in 1992?

Post stacks or GTFO

>>23177438
Dimes and quarters from the year 1967 could be either 80% silver or 50% silver. Dimes and quarters from 1968 could be either 50% silver or 99.9% nickel. It’s easy to test if you have a nickel one or not, nickel sticks to a magnet. As for the 50% vs. 80% silver the only real way to tell is to analyze it with a Niton gun. Oh and nickels made before 1982 are 99.9% nickel and actually worth more in melt value than face value so make sure you keep them

Candlestackin'

>>23177326
>Also I would expect they get listed early in the new year after the legal teams are all done.
Plenty of time to prepare then, that's good. I wonder if I should wait out the first week or so because newly listed stocks tend to be overpriced at first and fall sharply after being listed

>>23177391
I can talk for hours about Osisko and how they make money but I am honestly not up to date on a lot of the other royalty holders. Osisko has I think 125 operations that they have royalties in, often they spin smaller companies off to operate or manage their own acquisitions, such as what they just did to their Barkerville Gold Project. They buy into projects to generate a revenue stream, build the company up and than if its the right choice buy the project out and operate it themselves. The drilling at and around the Barkerville Gold Project has been insane. Drill holes coming back with multiple cuts of veins grading over half an ounce per tonne and crazy anomalous results like the Cow Mountain Zone hole that produced 6430 grams per tonne over half a meter. The project has had some challenges but now even the community of Wells BC that opposed the project in their back yard are coming to their senses. I forsee BGM becoming one of Canada's premier gold camps again as it was in the 1930s.

>>23177438
If the 1968 Quarter doesn't stick to a magnet, it's Silver. The only other Silver coin in that picture is the 1960 dime, which is 80% silver.

>>23177555
>6430 grams per tonne over half a meter
also nice trips

>>23177547
i would expect that too, give them a bit than buy in. The project still has to build a concentration plant, the major underground infrastructure and other camp facilities to house the operation in. The town of Wells recently took a $500 thousand donation from BGM to help fund the construction of a new school, which the province of BC plans to match, so many who were against the mines plans are now converted.

>>23177438
>>23177500
Forgot to mention that 1992 dime isn’t silver, it’s commemorating the 25th anniversary of something. So your 1960 dime is definitely 80% silver, and your 1968 quarter is either 50% silver or not worth keeping

>>23177592
>many who were against the mines plans are now converted
Money makes the World go 'round, hahaha

>>23177500
Nice thanks for the info! I had a shit ton of nickels from the 1970s. Obviously don't have a lot, but where would you even go to sell something like that? I just used a magnet on all the coins and the only one that didn't stick was the 1960 dime.

>>23177572
Just ran a magnet over all the coins and the only one that didn't stick was the 1960 dime. Is there any possibility the other 1968 coins have any silver? Or would I have to get them tested somewhere?

>>23177555
any thoughts on Metalla Royalty & Streaming?

stack silver

>>23176445
I don't care about your debate but the FED is a privately owned organisation with it's own owners. Look up it's creation.

>>23177701
I ve heard of them but I havent looked into them much let me get back to you on them. Looking at Royalty companies isnt my specialty.

>>23177700
>I had a shit ton of nickels from the 1970s. Obviously don't have a lot, but where would you even go to sell something like that?
I don’t think anybody is going to buy them because they’re only worth 7 cents in melt value, but similar to copper pennies you should keep them regardless because their intrinsic value exceeds their face value.
>Is there any possibility the other 1968 coins have any silver?
If you’re talking about the nickels then unfortunately no. But there are 1968 silver quarters and dimes still out there

>>23177792

>>23177438
1967 is some 50% some 80% 1966 and before is 80%

>>23177555

Chek'd and thanks man, so is it OR overall that I should look more deeply at, or is it specifically BGM that I should study?

>>23177825
shares of the Federal Reserve are privately owned
>>23177795
ah no worries then, was just curious if you happened to have any thoughts

>>23177872
"Shares" of the government are also privately owned in the form of bonds. The Fed isn't privately owned but I do know that it's a separate organization from the government of course

>>23177819
Ah so its only 1968 and pre-1968 dimes and quarters that have silver, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I'll hold onto the nickels anyway especially the 1961. I didn't know Canada had a 12 sided coin. Pretty cool IMO. Guess I'll keep the 1968 quarter till I can figure it out its silver content. Thanks dude

>>23177833
Checked and thanks

>>23177847
Look into them overall, they have excellent properties and companies to work with. BGM is just one of the properties that they have turned from a burning trash fire into a possible world beater.

>>23177303

You can't go ten posts in a /pmg/ thread without seeing a neo-Nazi virtue-signal about Jews nowadays. Triple brackets and shoehorned remarks in every post, it's incessant. The debate in the last thread started because people were advocating for A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind, a neo-Nazi, anti-semitic, Greenbacker publication which attacks the gold standard and supports unbacked money created directly by the state.

>>23177923
>Ah so its only 1968 and pre-1968 dimes and quarters that have silver, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I'll hold onto the nickels anyway especially the 1961. I didn't know Canada had a 12 sided coin. Pretty cool IMO. Guess I'll keep the 1968 quarter till I can figure it out its silver content. Thanks dude
No problem anon, also Canadian dollars and half dollars from 1967 and earlier are all 80% silver. Regarding the quarter didn’t you say earlier that it stuck to a magnet? If it sticks to a magnet it’s not silver but rather nickel. The 4 magnetic metals are iron, nickel, cobalt, and gadolinium.

>>23177969
>a neo-Nazi, anti-semitic, Greenbacker publication
Holy shit is greenbacker the new buzzword with you people?

>>23176259
>>23176261
All the ancaps of 2011 turned into evil hitlerites and voted for Trump because we aren't stupid. You cannot have freedom without order. You cannot have free trade when other countries have protectionist policies against you. Protectionism is necessary for self sufficiency, we outsource so much it's a national security risk because we are dependent on foreign powers for the raw materials of our military. Factories don't just start running by flipping a switch. It takes a huge amount of capital and risk, once they're gone, they're gone and with it the skills and knowhow to get them up and running again if enough time lapses. Same deal with pharmaceuticals and food.

I used to be ancap I listened to FreeTalkLive every day. Voted for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 primaries. I know just how the gop and the media stole from him any chance of a nomination/fair shake. I wrote him in for president. I bought and read Mary Ruart`s Healing our World. I followed Austrian economics and Tom Woods. Lew Rockwell, strike the root, and Eric Peters autos were my daily internet stops while drinking coffee.
I was knowledgeable about bitcoin when it was 11 cents a piece. I didn't pump money into it or start stacking gold and silver because being a student I just didn't have any money at the time.

Nobody is "redpilling" anybody here. Anyone with half a brain who was smart enough to question the government in their formative years has figured out why there are so many problems with our country and the world. That's why there are so many so-called hitlerites on /pmg/ if youre still stuck in the libertarian craze from 8 years ago youre either an imbecile or you wear a small hat.

>>23174802
>>23174907
I bet if you ask any member of the Bush family they’d show you all their Third Reich gold

>>23178026
Damn that sucks about the quarter, oh well. Would a 1968 quarter that was 50% silver not stick to a magnet? I didn't roll any loonies or toonies yet, I'm talking a break right now. I roll my change once a year and this time around I decided to check and see if I could find any junk silver, so at least I was able to get something out of it lol

>>23177932
Should I invest in Osisko if I don't like divvies? Or do you mean that it's just worth it to follow what the company does because of projects like Barkerville they spin out?

>>23177049
>this guy thought central banks are privately owned,
They kind of are. Trying to draw back on my econ 102, it's "owned" by the member banks, but it is also vaguely a public institution. There's a lot of fishy crap there.

>>23175087
GTFO faggot, you’re not welcome here anymore

>>23178122
Wait so in 1953 both the Federal Reserve and the mint were printing fiat currency?

>>23177416
Based kookaburras. What's the green in the capsules?

>>23177217
>anyone with a brain has since outgrown libertarianism
I think there will be a sudden jolt or a very strong need for a jolt toward hard-line libertarianism.

>>23178083

If you don't like that one, I could be more uncharitable, and use Gary North's other term, false-flag infiltrator.

>>23178182
>Would a 1968 quarter that was 50% silver not stick to a magnet?
You’re correct, it would not stick to a magnet. Silver and copper do not stick to magnets but rather have an interesting quality called “diamagnetism”. You can look up “silver magnet test” on YouTube and see what I’m talking about. Also it’s funny you mention rolling change because I just did that earlier today, except it was in burgerland lol

>>23178123
This. Libertarianism is also ultimately self-defeating, because the libertarian believes that government inaction is somehow good. You won't win if you refuse to actually wield power to the benefit of your people.

>>23178195
Seconding this

HELP BROS

>>>23178257
>>>23178257
>>>23178257

>>23178123
>you cannot have freedom without order
almost every libertarian/ancap on this site agrees, that doesn't mean you have to embrace the idiotic national socialist policies
take the hoppean pill, briefly use the state to forcefully remove all commies, etc and libertarianism can thrive

>>23178233
No, that was 10 years ago - Ron Paul was the first time the internet brought people together on a massive scale who opposed the establishment from the right, but libertarianism was ultimately a cope for young white guys who were sick of paying for a system that hates them, but still naive enough to believe that things would be fine if people just leave each other alone.

>>23178195
>>23178329
back to your containment board retards

>>23178270
Thanks for the help fren, I'll look up that stuff on Youtube

>>23178357
>>23178374
Lolbert seething knows no bounds

>>23178187
Its up to you, I personally am invested in Osisko Gold Royalties, but I will for sure be putting money into the off shoot company that will control BGM. I will be following the other project this company will be operating as well.

>>23178374
Fucking jogger, I damn near started /pmg/, GTFO, seriously.

>>23178290
Tragedy of the commons well understood in libertarian communities. The most common thought exercise to demonstrate it is the common ownership of a pasture would destroy it from overgrazing because there is infinite incentive to graze more, since if you don't other farmers will anyway. It amazes me that after so long, they are still so myopic not to understand that the same principles apply to the very government itself.

>>23178399
Cheers fren, always glad to help

>>23178214
thats just a reflection of the green cloth that i have in the box.

>>23178123

>>All the ancaps of 2011 turned into evil hitlerites and voted for Trump

Trump isn't a Hitlerite, and most libertarians voted for Trump in 2016 on principle, not because they changed their views. Peter Schiff voted for Trump. The main reason why Trump succeeded was because there was already an enormous underground patriot movement which preceded him. Infowars, 4chan, all the alt-media blogs and Youtube channels, had already laid the groundwork. If he hadn't come along, somebody else would have done so instead. He talked about the bubble which the Fed was making, he went on Alex Jones's show, he made allusions to 9/11 truth, he spoke about stopping the overseas wars, and mass immigration. There was a general feeling in the air that he was essentially "one of us."

You suggest that, because libertarianism haven't achieved political success, therefore libertarianism is wrong. Well, it's already a lot more successful than Naziism. Naziism required an economic collapse for Hitler to get into power, and then plunged Europe into a war which got ten million Europeans killed. The economic collapse which may sweep libertarianism to power has yet to come. But Naziism is already a proven failure. In fact, it was a failure for the same reason that we are failures. Keynesianism. I choose to adopt the cure, not the disease.

>>23178290

Hitler didn't wield power to the benefit of his people. He caused starvation, shortages, and plunged Europe into the worst war in history. That's what happens under a paper-money system. Paper money enslaves the people, and gives the government unlimited power. It always leads to tyranny and ruin. The people are benefitted by respecting private property rights. All that is necessary is to reintroduce a property qualification for voting, as we had in the 19th century. We didn't need dictators to be successful then, and we didn't need Keynesian paper-money systems. We had gold, liberty, and prosperity.

>>23178123

>>All the ancaps of 2011 turned into evil hitlerites and voted for Trump

Trump isn't a Hitlerite, and most libertarians voted for Trump in 2016 on principle, not because they changed their views. Peter Schiff voted for Trump. The main reason why Trump succeeded was because there was already an enormous underground patriot movement which preceded him. Infowars, 4chan, all the alt-media blogs and Youtube channels, had already laid the groundwork. If he hadn't come along, somebody else would have done so instead. He talked about the bubble which the Fed was making, he went on Alex Jones's show, he made allusions to 9/11 truth, he spoke about stopping the overseas wars, and mass immigration. There was a general feeling in the air that he was essentially "one of us."

You suggest that, because libertarianism hasn't achieved political success, therefore libertarianism is wrong. Well, it's already a lot more successful than Naziism. Naziism required an economic collapse to attain power, and then plunged Europe into a war which got ten million Europeans killed. The economic collapse which may sweep libertarianism to power has yet to come. But Naziism is already a proven failure. In fact, it was a failure for the same reason that we are failures. Keynesianism. I choose to adopt the cure, not the disease.

>>23178290

Hitler didn't wield power to the benefit of his people. He caused starvation, shortages, and plunged Europe into the worst war in history. That's what happens under a paper-money system. Paper money enslaves the people, and gives the government unlimited power. It always leads to tyranny and ruin. The people are benefitted by respecting private property rights. All that is necessary is to reintroduce a property qualification for voting, as we had in the 19th century. We didn't need dictators to be successful then, and we didn't need Keynesian paper-money systems. We had gold, liberty, and prosperity.

Well JIDF is here alright posting with multiple ID’s and starting unnecessary discussions.

>>23178581

>starting unnecessary discussions

>>23178421
>I damn near started /pmg/
Big if true

>>23178622
Post IDed and timestamped stack

>>23178581
Lol he never denied he was JIDF

>>23175087
nazi imagery is a filter

>>23178622
Like an anon said in a previous thread, they pretend to be on the opposite side and then argue back and forth using multiple ID’s. It is ironically what rabbi’s use, it is called pilpul gaining power buy arguing something to oblivion, but whatever post stacks

>>23178543
>you suggest that, because libertarianism hasn't achieved political success, therefore libertarianism is wrong

Weak strawman, I did not say this. Never called Trump a hitlerite either. So many ww2 cliches. Begone boomer

>>23178708
>It is ironically what rabbi’s use, it is called pilpul gaining power buy arguing something to oblivion,
Tell me more about this Pilpul

>>23178677

>JIDF

I haven't seen a single person who defends or even likes in Israel in /pmg/. But to you, anybody who isn't an anti-semite is "JIDF." Even Craig Hemke said a few weeks ago that he would ban anybody from his website on sight for anti-semitism. Is he "JIDF"? Is Sprott JIDF? Is Peter Schiff JIDF? No, they're simply people. Anti-semitism isn't liked by anybody in the Austrian movement. Why would it be? It's part and parcel of the Hitlerite ideology, which scapegoats the Jews to get justification for seizing absolute power. Hitleritism is about the idea that people are too weak to make their own decisions; so any external force which can be used to justify it is useful to it, and none more useful than the anti-semitic conspiracy theory. Gold means that you store your own labour and make your own decisions; Hitleritism is about taking away your gold, and inflating away your labour to make your decisions for you.

>>23178677

>JIDF

I haven't seen a single person who defends or even likes Israel in /pmg/. But to you, anybody who isn't an anti-semite is "JIDF." Even Craig Hemke said a few weeks ago that he would ban anybody from his website on sight for anti-semitism. Is he "JIDF"? Is Sprott JIDF? Is Peter Schiff JIDF? No, they're simply people. Anti-semitism isn't liked by anybody in the Austrian movement. Why would it be? It's part and parcel of the Hitlerite ideology, which scapegoats the Jews to get justification for seizing absolute power. Hitleritism is about the idea that people are too weak to make their own decisions; so any external force which can be used to justify it is useful to it, and none more useful than the anti-semitic conspiracy theory. Gold means that you store your own labour and make your own decisions; Hitleritism is about taking away your gold, and inflating away your labour to make your decisions for you.

>>23178928
>>23178893
Lol these shills are so damn stupid

>>23178796
>pilpul
> noun Argumentation; searching debates and reasonings on Talmudic subjects among rabbinical scholars.

Doesn’t necessarily be Talmuldic texts, these verbal skills can be als used elsewhere e.g. Bulgarian dog spinning forums like this one. Personally I think they are pathetic, don’t you guys have other things to do? Like in protecting your synagogues against an increasingly higher muzzie population in Europe? Fuck off and again post stack or menorah (silver one) or whatever

https://www.wordnik.com/words/pilpul

How much money does it cost to start a mining operation

>>23179005
6 gorillion

>>23178123

>Never called Trump a hitlerite

You wrote, "All the ancaps of 2011 turned into evil hitlerites and voted for Trump because we aren't stupid. You cannot have freedom without order." I interpreted this to mean, "Because Trump is much closer to Hitler, therefore people who support Hitler (which is what a Hitlerite is) decided to vote for Trump." I don't see what other interpretation you can put on that statement. I then refuted you by pointing out that libertarians didn't vote for Trump because of any perceived affinity to Hitler or Hitlerite policies; they voted for him because he seemed to have a lot in common with the patriot movement.

>you suggest that, because libertarianism hasn't achieved political success, therefore libertarianism is wrong
>Weak strawman, I did not say this.

That's how I interpreted this comment: "Voted for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 primaries. I know just how the gop and the media stole from him any chance of a nomination/fair shake." It was as if you were saying, "Ron Paul and libertarians never had a chance, so we needed a strongman to get in and sort things out instead."

As for the rest of your post, it's clearly incorrect. As I pointed out earlier in the thread, the reason why America has a weak manufacturing base is because of Keynesianism. It's because of the moral hazard imposed by having the dollar as the world-reserve currency. Manufacturing would return to America if it was on a gold standard again. It had a lot of manufacturing before 1971. See >>23176214 >>23176259. You are supporting the disease rather than the cure.

>>23178209
interesting question

Wiki:

Comparison to Federal Reserve Notes
Both United States Notes and Federal Reserve Notes have been legal tender since the gold recall of 1933. Both have been used in circulation as money in the same way. However, the issuing authority for them came from different statutes.[21] United States Notes are, depending on their issue, redeemable directly for precious metal – as after the specie resumption of 1879 which authorized federal officials to do so if requested. The difference between a United States Note and a Federal Reserve Note is that a United States Note represented a "bill of credit"[clarification needed] and, since it was issued by the government itself and does not involve either lending or borrowing, was inserted by the Treasury directly into circulation free of interest. Federal Reserve notes are not backed either by precious metals or the full faith of the United States government. The privately owned twelve Federal Reserve Banks issue them into circulation pursuant to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. A commercial bank belonging to the Federal Reserve System can obtain Federal Reserve notes from the Federal Reserve Bank in its district whenever it wishes. It must pay for them in full, dollar for dollar, by drawing down its account with its district Federal Reserve Bank.[21]

>>23178123

>Never called Trump a hitlerite

You wrote, "All the ancaps of 2011 turned into evil hitlerites and voted for Trump because we aren't stupid. You cannot have freedom without order." I interpreted this to mean, "Because Trump is much closer to Hitler, therefore libertarians, who voted for him in 2016, started to be supporters of Hitler (which is what a Hitlerite is) and, on that basis, voted for Trump." I don't see what other interpretation you can put on your statement. I then refuted you by pointing out that libertarians didn't vote for Trump because of any perceived affinity to Hitler or Hitler's policies; they voted for him because he seemed to have a lot in common with the patriot movement.

>you suggest that, because libertarianism hasn't achieved political success, therefore libertarianism is wrong
>Weak strawman, I did not say this.

That's how I interpreted this comment: "Voted for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 primaries. I know just how the gop and the media stole from him any chance of a nomination/fair shake." It was as if you were saying, "Ron Paul and libertarians never had a chance, so we needed a strongman to get in and sort things out instead."

As for the rest of your post, it's clearly incorrect. As I pointed out earlier in the thread, the reason why America has a weak manufacturing base is because of Keynesianism. It's because of the moral hazard imposed by having the dollar as the world-reserve currency. Manufacturing would return to America if it was on a gold standard again. It had a lot of manufacturing before 1971. See >>23176214 >>23176259. You are supporting the disease rather than the cure.

I would love to get a PMV Pro to tinker with but can’t justify the price. I could see myself paying $800 or $900, but not the $1400 they usually ask for.

>>23179098
Interesting, I thought paper money was exclusively federal reserve notes after 1913 save for silver and gold certificates

>>23179146
>PMV Pro
OR
>Pic related

Choices choices

>>23179005
how big are you looking to go, even a small scale placer mine like what I do can creep into the $200k range when all the permitting and gear has been factored in. These mining projects we discuss here are in the millions of dollars range.

>>23179146
I think the standard version is on sale right now for $800

>>23179129

Intended for

>>23178792

>>23179201
Yeah, I see that one too but I feel like if I’m gonna shell out for one of these I want to go big or go home. I think they advertise that the base unit can check the surface but cannot check the core to see if it is just a coated base metal. Also the pro unit can use the screen to validate how big a bar or coin should be based on it’s purity.

>>23176525
Exactly. The prices is only going to go up. You look at about 5 oz of silver right now and it's going to cost anywhere between a 132 167. Now you take that into account with gold the smaller the fraction becomes more affordable yet here we are still smaller amounts. At this rate to 50 silver ounces and possibly to gold ounces are feasible within a year. With that said we all are trying to get out of the city life. And like you also said means of barter trade protection. Even then nothing scaring teed anymore nor was it. The election comes for the United States and so with it the verge of collapse into tyranny.

>>23179282
>I think they advertise that the base unit can check the surface but cannot check the core to see if it is just a coated base metal
If that’s actually true then the machine would be literally worthless. All fake gold and silver coins are usually plated base metal. Big bars are usually tungsten plugged with maybe 10% of the stated value of gold actually in them

>>23179330
They claim it has “sub surface measurement”, but that it does not measure all the way through the sample. I can’t find any info on how deep it goes, but yeah if you want true assurance you’re better off with the pro unit.

>>23179386
Huh that’s interesting. If I ever do get a PM tester I think I’ll just splurge and get a used Niton for $5,000 like that one anon who owns a coin shop

>>23179146
why bother? most LCS will let you use theirs for free so long as you are not trying to do a huge amount, and even if you are, a nominal fee is usually all they ask. Mine will let me test whatever so long as I do it myself so they can do whatever.

>>23175006
a job

>>23179502
You’re lucky you have a decent LCS, mine doesn’t even test their shit and they were charging $25 for ASE’s back when spot was $16

>>23179567
>get a jerb

>>23179575
dont give them your business... if they dont test shit never ever buy from them. They will buy fucking chocolate if they dont test.

Most fakes a simple weight/measure with calipers will detect. For the lay person specific gravity is easy/free to do and will get basically everything.

>>23175087
kek what a faggot

>>23179628
>dont give them your business
Trust me I walked out as soon as he said the prices for ASE’s. The guy is a full scale numismatic dedicated to serving boomers that will pay $40 for a common date cull Morgan dollar

wow the pmg threads are retard central on the weekend

It is interesting to see, whenever PM's fall apprecaibly, there is a flood of FUD from smgfags who love to make fun of people who bought PM's, as well as shills FUDing that the rug is being pulled.

When PM's go up is when we generally have the nazi/antinazi brigade talking to themselves to derail.

>>23179726
Yes. Regardless of political beliefs, just stack. It's all anyone can do really.

>>23179765
Their tactic a few days ago was FUDing oldsilver.ru into oblivion, it really pisses me off how an honest Russian who wants to provide a service to fellow anons gets brigaded by shills

>>23179770
Secure and unperturbed, in Yukari's Fortess of Solitude

>>23179898
sigh... yuki anon I am sad.. I tried to watch girls und panzer on crunchyroll and its not available unless I pay. I have no idea who yuki is and this bothers me.

>>23179191
And how much does that mining net you on a yearly basis? Don't have to answer this, obviously. I recall you saying something like 20k after all the costs are paid but I could be remembering something different. Not gonna start anything myself , just wanted to steer the thread back to being on topic.

>>23175400
Thanks anon you're a huge help.

If you ever need help with anything just hop on /sci/ and I'll probably see it. Say you were from /biz/ or something I'll screen cap your ID. (I'm a professional chemist in pharma)

Anyway, I'll look into pen nibs, Pd ceramic (and chem lab waste), and get Sterling at your recommend rates.
Side note, maybe I should sell some gallium on eBay, I have accounts with all kinds of suppliers might be a dope idea.

>>23179946
heh, I know. I've only been able to watch a few clips here and there myself. I've never even seen a whole episode. but the little I've seen I liked it. and I got exposed to it back in the day on old /k/

>>23179898
how much gold and silver do you have total

>>23179946
>crunchyroll
just torrent the anime from nyaa

>>23180054
I need to do an inventory, last time I added it up I was at 300oz silver, 1oz gold

>>23175554
Absolutely based humble tin merchant.

I'll totally keep an eye out for it.

>>23176934
Either post a mega or you are just a shill that wants to sell his book

>>23175087
Fuck off kike

>$33 cad silver
>$2500 cad gold
Shit spots, not buying.

Can anybody honestly look at this chart and say the world is going into deflation instead of heavy inflation?

>>23180212
Cant you just drive into burgerland and take the silver back into Canada?

>>23179984
depends on the year, I broke even this year around the end of August at around $24k this season, I did find a bit more gold but its only around an ounce or two extra. Its not a lot of money, but I dont have a lot of debt this season and I made a lot of money working for another guy this season too, so all in all I am in the clear til next spring. My only gripe is I cant do my drilling program this year, covid has stopped me cold there.

One canuck silver dollar is worth almost 20 canuck fiat dollars. Really puts into perspective what a scam fiat is.

>>23180251
well every asset class except PM's and defensives are going to deflate after the bubble pops

We probly going up again next week, gents.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-stimulus-package-larry-kudlow-trump-approved/

>>23180253
Does canada $ magically transform into us $ when you cross the border?

>>23180307
Not gonna make it through Senate dumbfuck.

>>23180296
If they keep adding trillions to the money supply they can keep the stock market bubble, housing bubble, bond bubble student loan bubble etc from popping but the question is how long they can keep them all propped up before food starts doubling price in a year and people really start to notice what's happening and try to protect themselves with precious metals. Once the average Karen in the food aisle notices inflation from week to week your opportunity to accumulate metals is over.

>>23180320

>>23176673
>for people running away
NGMI, there is no running anymore, it is all compromised and poised to rise or fall. It is fucking amazing actually, and the thing that is holding it all together with the seams bursting is the fucking media. But there is no more running and those that try will die first. Unless you have some bunker up north unknown to anyone but you and stocked , there is no running anymore

>>23180370
Both candidates promised stimulus packages post elections, fren

>>23180387
Only works with silverdollars

>>23180014

Alright cool man thanks. Yeah, old 14k gold fountain pen nibs, other nibs were made using PGMs maybe in the very top but I'm not sure. Sometimes one comes across bags of old pens with gold nibs or little cases of loose nibs with gold ones mixed in. I always thought it was an interesting source.

Regarding selling on eBay, there is good money to be made in countless products. I made fat loot selling Chloroquine Diphosphate until they shut it down near the end of March and then bought lots of cheap silver with the proceeds, it was an interesting time of year lol. Just search through eBay, see what chems and elements are actually selling, and if you can get it cheaper then you're in business!

>>23176585
>>23176613
>>23176673
My other train of thought on this is it is actually free housing for illegal immigrant voters while we argue that they are going to round us up.
Are (am I) we really the frog that is already boiling and I am delusional to think they could actually start rounding us up. I just don't see it, The resistance they will see then, this is what everyone is waiting for and it won't happen because they know EXACTLY how hard to push and where the line is drawn. They have crossed my line verbally, but NO ONE has stepped across yet. And I know they have crossed the line many times, but they have pushed to the end of the line now

>>23180418
>next week
>post elections
Well that was a pretty quick goalpost shift lol

>>23180384
>Once the average Karen in the food aisle notices inflation from week to week your opportunity to accumulate metals is over.
This is why I stack Mercs

>>23180384
one might think so, but I suspect the "average" braindead sheeple will never put 2 and 2 together and never understand what is really going on or what is really causing our troubles.
. they will go on believing it is all because of Trump / Russian collusion or Trumps "racism" lol

the will continue to deny reality and will willfully and belligerently set fire to any true remedies

>>23180471
What are some price goals I should aim for when looking for sterling? And how the hell to I gauge weights of weighted items or knives with filled handles? Or junk jewelry lots mixed with stones?

>>23180511
This is going to be the biggest case of natural selection in hundreds of years and it will literally be a case of wherever owns the most metals (or food producing land) wins. The fact that most people have been intentionally taught the wrong things by society is good for us and has given us years of more prep time than we rightfully ever should have had.

>>23180597
After following miners for a bit, I see the markets completely tank at the slightest hint of bad news, unless there is talk of stimulus. Govt will have to keep giving stimulus from here on out or else stocks keep diving. How aren't normies catching on yet?

>>23180384
Yes, true. It's the bond bubble that will bring down the whole system. World economy is dictated by debt cycles, and the long debt cycle is going to its highest point. Other bubbles can crash but they won't necessarily plunge the world into a deleveraging. If they introduce negative interest rates they can buy time for maybe a decade or so, maybe even longer.

>>23180418
I believe pelosi already rejected it, saying some bullshit that "it doesn't do enough for the families" or some shit.

>>23180620
because their so distracted. My normie friends are more concerned that the states are going to burn down after the election than the fact that our own government is doing underhanded shit to us all the time. Heck if you point it out to them they dont believe it, they dont want to believe it because their already so stressed that they cant take anymore news.

>>23178374
I not particularly fond of the anime here but I deal with it since ‘it’s always been a part of this site’. Same with racism. If you don’t like it, please fuck off back to red*it.

>>23180679
>>23180653
>>23180620
>>23180597
>>23180479
>>23180412
>>23180384
Oswald Spengler predicted the west would start its disintegration in the year 2000 and completely collapse by the year 2200, I don’t mean to rain on your parade but I think things are going to keep going like this for a long time until we’re able to start over

>>23180749
>west would start its disintegration in the year 2000
>will collapse by 2200
I think he was an optimist.

>>23180749
Ray Dalio predicted 2008 financial crisis and is already warning people of the coming debt burst. I'm not familiar with Spengler, what has he predicted correctly thus far? Wikipedia says he believes in social cycles, which sounds very similar to Dalio's debt cycles (when a deleveraging happens, difficult times come: war, poverty, etc. this happened last time in the 1930's and lead to WW2)

>>23180471
Holy fuck you're not mister frags are you.

Man, if only you knew. I bought a kilo of QC and was going to sell it myself but I wanted to get it NMR tested before I sent it out and I missed the boat. Now I'm sitting on literally 100 ten gram bags.

Glad it worked out for you though, just gay eBay banned it.

235oz silver, 3.2oz gold.

Stacking 1-2 sovs per month and 10-20 oz silver

Will my family make it?

>>23180686

"Racism" is a meaningless buzzword. I don't care about "racism," because "racism" is a false word. What I do confront is the economic and political doctrines of a war-mongering socialist tyrant. Whether that's Greenbackerism, the anti-semitic conspiracy theory, or the ideology of racialism.

>>23180686

"Racism" is a meaningless buzzword. I don't care about "racism," because "racism" is a false word. What I do confront is the economic and political doctrines of a war-mongering socialist tyrant. Whether that's Keynesianism, the anti-semitic conspiracy theory, militarism, or the poisonous ideology of racialism.

>>23180418
>a political candidate promised a thing

>>23181037
based hivemind-resistant libertarian

>>23174877
>50 dollars face junk
35.75 oz paid 868
24.27oz junk
no

>>23174716
Who’s baking?

>>23181088
>24.27oz junk
>no
That’s literally below spot what are you talking about

>>23180686
>racism
oh for fuck sakes stop dinking that koolaid
there is no "systemic racism "

there is an honest and well placed hatred that most honest working people have for "niggers" of all colors (criminal welfare burdens on society)

colored people, women, and LGBTQ all have the same rights and opportunites as the rest of us do and are equally rewarded and respected for honest work and honest positive contributions to society just like the rest of us

rioting niggers commiting acts of crime, vandalism, rapes, robbery, arson, assault, theft, murder only deserve the rope

dont be a degenerate gangster criminal
and your chances of getting shot by police go way down

>>23180067
naw I dont steal content, i like to make sure the stuff I like gets supported. Crunchy roll does phases where some stuff is free and others are behind a pay wall, just finished alicization and Ill probably look at re 2, might even buy a month or two to get some other stuff.

>>23180251
there's two sides to this coin i fall on the deflation side
inflation requires increase in money supply (which we have) and more importantly increase in velocity of money which we don't
eventually inflation will come which is why im bullish on metals longterm but deflation will hit first

>>23180969
Probably, you’re already in the new 1% just because you have some

>>23180251
its inflation 100%, when MMT people tout "deflation" they just mean some prices may have gone down, in a sea of rising prices, which is not deflation. The money supply has, is, and only will, go up, which is inflation.

>>23174716
Alright I guess I’ll bake, any suggestions for the edition that doesn’t include botching about “muh nazis” or “muh jews”?

>>23181082
It sounds like it's own kind of hivemind to be honest.
I baked new bread anons.
>>23181254

>>23177029
The ukrainians suffered more than those in the holobunga

>>23181268
Gold [X] Edition
>Gold Eagle Edition
>Gold Bar Edition
>Gold Sovereigns Edition

>>23181737
Dammit too late, welp looks like I’m restocking now