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Stop fudding so you can accumulate

>>23170549
>this FUD will be thrown out in kleros court

Sirs this of fud is not being assistance. I just buyed another stack of the suicide reasons

>>23170549
>rank 198
I've never seen such a good project being so undervalued.

>>23170549
>>23170560
>>23170569
>>23170629
>>23170635
;)

>>23170549
to the court with you sir!

>>23170549
you are fucking basterd bitch lier bloody

>>23170549
Why did he stop following Clement?

>>23170560
>>23170569
>>23170629
>fud
this is the downfall of your community
when people start thinking someone just stating things is fud, it's over
like the fantom fags
>>23170635
you unironically don't have eyes

>>23170788
This

>>23171068
It literally is fud. Number of cases is still going up, telegram is still active, devs still talking. The only thing he said that’s true is vitalik unfollowing clement on twitter

ladies and gentleman just look at the dissent coming from their share holders. Absolute anarchy on the horizon for Kleros.

>hello sirs I lost all my currybux why are you not increasing the price for me??? Hello?? Sirs??? The village will not be eating for a year sirs please help

>>23171223
>asking the devs to increase the value

>>23171223
>>23171282
Fucking kek

>>23170569
Have fun losing your money hodling like a retard

seriously.. it's not about quality in this market anymore. anyone who really thinks it's about qUaLiTy oF a PrOjEcT and tEcHniCaL deTaiLs deserves to get rugged and end up as a bag holder... it's a fucking fast pacing market.

Buy things like $CORE ... or better ape in the presale of $LYL loyal.finance or $RAMP and make 2-10x and be happy and jump to the next project.

>>23171223
imagine being part of the kleros team, working hard every day and seeing this tweet kek how rage inducing would that be

Many moons comig sirs

>>23171355
literally no one is saying that, we know it’s a speculations market. And no, we will not buy your rug pull projects.

>>23171188
>vitalik unfollowing clement on twitter
wow this is giving huge in my opinion

>>23171398
i would be mad too stuck in a shitcoin like kleros lmao and yea.. all rugpulls. like $CORE is a very mean rugpull. you look so stupid when you ape'd in at 8k lol

>>23170549
>telegram dead
>discord dead
these are out and out lies

>>23171355
>anyone who really thinks it's about qUaLiTy oF a PrOjEcT and tEcHniCaL deTaiLs deserves to get rugged
>buy my rugs

hmm with Vitalik pulling out they lost their best shill for this project. anything on the horizon for this coin? binance listing or some shit like that?

I find it odd that people are fearful when there is nothing to indicate there should be reason to, you faggots are literally just getting shaky because the price is low. It would hardly be worth me trying to comfort you fucks because ultimately it doesn't matter. The value will go up regardless of if this is shilled or not

Literally no fundamentals has changed and good new will come. Ofcourse we already pumped ALOT so we needed to cool off. The big problem is the uniswap vampire bot keeping down the price.

>>23171547
what an amazing kleros board we have here

the fuck you talking about? literally two partnership in last month, one chain and another off chain, just check their blog.

telegram is the platform and very active. slack was and remains less active.

the unfollow bit is true.

if you would be a juror you'd know the cases are growing and will continue to grow with HIVE adoption.

proper fud here, no merits.

Anyone know why Vitalik unfollowed Clemente?

>>23171905
he got tired of kleros going nowhere like a lot of people. see >>23171223

This thread was on the front page. I'm not sure what else there is to say ladies and gentleman.

>>23171318
i dont even own any pnk lol, i'm unironically holding bags of other shitcoins; xrp, link, rsr, sta, skm, libertas, coom, lition, ftm, and uni.

So this project really is dead?
Can't believe I fell for this shit.
What about the post from a while back. Is it even worth waiting till November to see if it's true.

>>23172318
that was just some asuka prophecy imposter. i really would have expected it to break .00056 ETH, their stupid insurance pilot program was just such a devastating failure that it only went down afterwards. i guess Vitalik saw that too. still hoping for a binance listing though to get out in the pump and pump that would follow.

>>23172318
that person planted their face across their keyboard and then pressed "post"
>>23172363
this, that pilot of embarrassing. look if you're going to hold then at least get out if it gets listed on binance

>>23171223
>imagine being this retarded
Nigga thinks the devs owe him something because he bought a highly volatile asset and it dumped. Lmao.

"It's a working product" is it? Kleros is asking people to buy thousands of pnk just for a chance to selected as a juror and that's if you're lucky enough to even find available courts to join since the system is rarely used. Even trash like uni and rot are worth more than pnk and they literally have zero uses, however they don't advertise having any use unlike Kleros.
>>23172639
dumped 70% within a month and then the devs went silent

>>23170549
Did Vitalik unfollow Clement?

>>23171433
When one of their favorite "selling points" that they love to repeat endlessly is "VITALIK IS SHILL THIS COIN" it does seem to be a pretty big deal

>>23172710
yes
>>23172724
the unfollow is probably why we see very little pnk threads now but the ones that do get made are essentially just filled with unfunny pajeet memes with zero discussion about Kleros itself

>>23172976
>unfunny
see you kleros court sirs

>>23171068
subtle fantom fud, never selling faggot

>>23172993
sir i have no pnk to even enter the court. I suppose this makes me a free man!

>>23172363
how did the asuka prophecy even get any credence, it was literally wrong about everything. I think it was just astroturfed as a joke / experiment on malleability of board culture

>>23171673
pls explain uniswap vampire bot sir my village need kleros pump thank you sir

>oui oui this is normal
the devs got the French government grant so had no incentive to advertise their product and now you're all stuck with chink wash traders and arb vamp bots because the devs can no longer afford to get your coin on even moderately popular exchanges

Seriously though if vitalik unfollowed clement who even notices that? O
Does someone keep an eye on everyone's friends list to see if they remove? And if it's true any valid reasons why?

>>23173152
December 2019 were tough times for crypto bulls, every bit of hopium mattered, this shit might have prevented a sudoku. but yeah it was kind of stupid.

Where

>>23173166
Dont know the techicals desu but some arbitration bot trades like eth > pnk > eth and actually ends up with more eth, hence the price drops. There where some posts here this week. The most affected tokens seems to be xDai and pnk.

>>23173663
Ubisoft sir,,

This is the most retarded idea ever. You mean to tell me that justice can be decentralized and enforced through a meme contract.

So if Tyrone robs a 711 at gun point and shoots the pajeet owner. The kleros court system will arrest and prosecute the nigger. Not even in our modern court system will that ever happen.

Face it guys kleros is the most retarded experiment ever. Yield farming ponzi schemes don't even come close to this curry nigger scam.

>>23174358
Nothing is beyond the reach of Kleros Court!

>>23171188
Because ADA is making moves and ETH2.0 might tank. Vitalik is a manchild.

just bought 100k

>>23175312
more lies from the Juror Defence Force(JDF) ladies and gentleman

>>23175712
JDF here. 350k PNK and still buying! Linguo is coming! Case count is growing exponentially! Stake for free ETH stacking before the next bull run!

I don't think he ever followed Clement to begin with.

>>23176319
This. It's a non issue.

>>23174358
You don't actually think Kleros is a court of laws, right..? I mean this is good FUD to keep low IQ idiots out but wtf

>>23170549
FUD harder with your lies bitch. I wanna be a top 10 wallet before christmas

>>23170549
*kwisses chu!*
bwy kwwewlow pwease~!!!

Look at the volume you babbon brain

>>23176426
based cutefag

Dapps on xDai will use kleros as the arbitrator through a cross chain bridge. See you on Pluto. Eth 2.0 phase 0 drops before 2021

>>23170788
OP is lie desperate to accumulate pnk for their village.

>>23171223
>are you pumping my bags or not? I waited 2 months, do something!
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF WESTERN PAJEETS

>>23171188
>vitalik unfollowing clement on twitter
CHECKED, SIRS!
HUGE BUY SIGNAL, SIRS!

I made it all up. Thanks for the laughs

What is the telegram link

>>23170549
Recipe to finantial success and free from Shelekstein's tentacles
1: sirs, do the needful
2: never sell
3: village now many Rupees
4: accept pajeet in ur soul

>>23178232
prepare your anus for a class action lawsuit on kleros court

>>23170781
lol based now u bailed op the fuck out mister 0N3tT5fq

>>23179000
>oooOOOOOooOOOOoOoOOOoooOOOOOOOooOOOOoooOoOoOOOOOOOoo

>>23170549
>number of cases declining
the most blatant of all the lies in this thread
Buy signal

>>23171467
>Buy things like $CORE ... or better ape in the presale of $LYL loyal.finance or $RAMP and make 2-10x and be happy and jump to the next project.
>you look so stupid when you ape'd in at 8k lol
lol what you buy rugpulls and he doesn't
>pls buy my core bags i buyd at 8k and now my money is halfd
imo mostly low intellect niggers fud good crypto projects unironically

Vitalik never followed Clement.

>>23171223
What a fag lmao

>>23171905
He did?

>>23172682
>since the system is rarely used
For now, you buy betting on future growth, if you want to buy assets that already had their growth go for telecom companies

>>23173219
Might legit be true, the French gov in notoriously a killer of industry

>>23176319
Thank you I think this is true

>>23172078
based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUH9jD__qHY

What's this pattern called?

>>23183379
First sell off/bear trap. We're in the awareness phase right now. Next up is the mania phase, then the blow off. Then the cycle repeats as it turns out we've been in the stealth phase all along.

>>23183379
People realizing major companies have lawyers and adoption of this coin as the new paradigm in cryptocurrency is based around 4chan memes and that no legitimate business wants random tendy eaters deciding "ethics" when big business has genuinely spent billions -- if not trillions -- lobbying to promote and exploit the laws of international trade in their favor.

>>23183787
>t. i did not read the white paper

>>23183787
Also anyone normie would just use PayPal, so there's no adoption there either. No one wants to convert their USD, pay capital gains taxes on that, to send money in a "secure" way with neet arbitrators. People who sign up to be judges will all be traumatized like Facebook moderators. Most will be pedophiles and sickos. Crypto is still mostly genuinely used to buy illegal shit from China for the average person phase.

>>23183820
I did. It's actually the most challenging white paper to read, because I genuinely cannot figure out the use case adoption. It's well written, but whether real world money will collect on this one is ambiguous for me. I'm interested in this one, because it has the marketcap where you can make decent profits and is bottoming out...but...I don't know where this is going. What is the scenario where this is actually used -- and by who -- and why will this make me money?

I understand the technology behind it. I just don't know how it will make me money, and Chainlink is also finding a new bottom. Why don't I just flip Chainlink as a more sure thing?

>>23183820
Please keep in mind my FUD does not mean to derail anyone who believes in this project. I am challenging the central idea of it in a way to figure out if it's a good investment. If it is, it would be a good time to invest. However, I would like for someone to explain my FUD away.

Good sirs this fooding is very not based. Do not speak any more badly of our Kleros Court or I hack your compooter. blody bastrd bich

>>23183887
What does Kleros do for the general public that PayPal does not? What does it do for big business that the packed legal system already does not?

How will this change the world as we know it? Why would "Alice" in the white paper not just use fucking PayPal.

>>23183921
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/seller-dispute-resolution

If this exists, and can easily convert between native currencies all around the world, why would anyone convert their money to a cryptocurrency, and pay a capital gains tax, as a first resort? Why? I genuinely do not understand. Please, someone answer this. It's legitimate FUD, but I will hope onto this project now. It's a good time to invest in it, if it has a use case.

>>23183946
can you please explain what you mean by converting your money into crypto currency and paying a capital gains tax? isnt a capital gains tax applied once you've realised a certain amount of gains? or if youve made a trade greater than what the threshold is that incurs a tax %? im sure its different from dif countries but could you please explain? and the mechanism that kleros uses is something called game theory if i remember correctly and it encourages economic incentives to be coherent in voting

>>23183995
Laws about converting currency into another vary by country. Kleros is complicated by the world legal system. Different municipalities have different rules regarding what is a taxable event in currency. You have to legally report buying anything

2. Sales are not the only form of taxable transaction.

"You have to report the disposition of a virtual coin if it is:

—sold for cash,

—traded for another crypto, or

—used to buy something.

But merely transferring coins, such as from a wallet to an exchange or vice versa, is not a disposition. Nor do investors who buy and hold owe a tax."

I kind of think the ambiguity of this statement alone will turn a lot of people off of using "kleros court." You legally have to report buying something with the coin in the United States, as of 2020. What a fucking nightmare this would be.

>>23171601
why are you so gullible

>>23170549
stay poor faggot

>>23184054
The idea is to unironically NEVER sell your kleros. You use it to earn ETH by adjudication, and the ETH you could either pay tax on as regular income, or capital gains if you hold it for a while. Kleros is not a currency, why are you talking about cap gains disposals or buying things with it?

>>23170549
Damn Kleros is still alive this is amazing

>>23170549
Yeah they leave for a while every time it dips.

I WARNED YOU ABOUT PNK BRO!!!

Unironically this thread made me deposit few hundred into Kraken. Gonna buy more on monday when my cash arrives. Thanks boys.

they way i see it, most crypto (defi) is a complete scam, only good ideas, this just has value that will skyrocket when compared to all the other shit tokens everywhere. I will sell it then.