/biz/ - Business & Finance

Alright anons, did you buy when we were $22?
I got a couple of 10oz stackers.

I bought a bunch of these from the US mint. Is it true that I'm retarded for buying from there? I'm thinking I will return them and just buy 2020 ASEs at half that price from JM. I think I got souvenir scammed by the mint.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>23157453
>return them
LMAO

>>23157531
You can return them to the mint for a full refund

>>23157453
you better learn from that because those coins are yours lmao

>>23157565
nah

Bayhorse is violently swinging today. Up to .11 down to.09. Up to .11 down to .09

>want to stack a bit more silver
>premiums through the roof
d-do I buy?

>>23157610
I think this volatility is just part and parcel of silver microcaps. Personally, I look at the prices everyday when it crosses my mind, but it doesn’t really many anything at this juncture because silver is crabbing, gold hasn’t seen a massive influx of panic investors, the dollar hasn’t pooped itself, no major downturn, etc. What I’m saying is, there hasn’t yet been a catalyst event that’s been strong enough to send metals prices skyward, so to that end, the price movements of miners, currently, are kind of irrelevant. They are a buy and long term hold (minimum 2 years, perhaps a decade+).

>>23157685
I was thinking that this week was going to be the mother of all buying opportunites but then they announced they are working on another stimulus so i think the can got kicked down the road further. Im still trying to place my money now though. I'll probably solidify my positions on Monday. Im going to spend the week studying.

>>23157751
In my brief interactions with you, I can tell you’re taking these investment decisions seriously. Probably more so than myself. I hope you make it, my friend, and that we all make it. Good to see other people diving in to the miner investment game.

I just want the stock market to crash and metals to moon, is that too much to ask!?

Die crab, die

>>23157822
Thank you friend. Im trying to.

>>23157822
I will of course share anything I do with this forum. We can all make it together.

>>23157920
aw poor little guy ._.

LCS closes in an hour and I want to reach 100 toz soon. Is it better to wait for the price to drop or is this mooning time?

>>23158169
Don't worry all crabs go to crab heaven (yes they exist)

>>23158210
I like to eat meat but I always feel bad about it later. Not going to be some faggy vegan though.

>>23157624
Lcs time

>>23158193
We will see once it hits resistance ($30) if there will be a breakout.

>first majestic up 7.42% today
YEAH IM FINALLY IN THE GREEN HOLDING MINERS

>>23145898 Prev thread for archivers

>>23158210
this statue is incredibly based. after the collapse and reset this statute will be worshiped as an alter to Crabulous the Crab God of war and his son Lobsteranimus the Lobster God of money and friendship.

>>23157175
Listen pal I don’t know if you’re a newfag or what but you’re supposed to link the new thread in the old one and the old one in the new one. God you fucking piss me off

>>23157893
I mean it's not moon territory but we got a sweet +$1.50 today, pretty comfy!

>>23158410
The baker seems new. He made this mistake for the third time now.

ITS HAPPENING

Word is getting out about Canada Silver Cobalt Works. Up at 16% in anticipation of an announcement which hasn't even happened. It was also interesting to see Dolly Varden go up 22% today at the peak, in reaction to drilling results which had already been released several days ago. Before then, the share price hadn't been touched. Remarkable to see even SILJ up 6.6%.

This is good for PM's, right?

>>23158247
lcs?

>>23158271
Nice to see a fellow FM chad, i am finally in green too today.

>>23157893
Someone should change the /pol/ to /PMG/

>>23158505
how is systemic anti-white racism good for PMs? $30B is a drop in the bucket for JPM, imho it's some other kind of laundering scheme disguised as virtue signaling, i can smell the kikery from here.

>>23158505
Yes. Since it is more money pumped into the system that will lead to a small increase closer to the crash.

>>23158543
there may be some overlap

Alright boys, after a month I finally got my free silver from RusAnon’s giveaway. I told him if he actually sent me free silver I would shill his site so here we are: https://oldsilver.ru/

>>23157969
Not me. My budget is too limited, I can only invest about 600€ a month. Wagie life, have to save some for school which I will (hopefully) start next year. I fucking hate this

>>23158621
I know oldsilver.ru is kinda legit, but time stamp please for new fags.

>>23158653
Think about those who can not save rn. Think about how much they are drowning in debt.

Is there a pmg discord? I want to have in depth discussions and i get bored waiting for you guys to post new shit

>>23158193
This is honestly not a bad place to buy even if it does drop back down. But to each their own. I personally think there's less potential upside in waiting than there is in making the purchase now.
Personally I am hoping for silver to stay lower for quite a while longer so I can accumulate more. But I dont think that's going to happen

>>23158505
Topkek this is literally the bankers setting up for government bailouts. The formula is simple. Lend to people who won't pay back and then ask the taxpayer to foot the bill. Yes bullish for PMs in the sense that the dollar will be inflated further since the loans will not be paid back or the government will print more money to do so.

>>23158553
Bullish because fractional reserve lending is one of the 2 ways money is put into circulation. Other is through fed buying government bonds. These loans won't be paid back for the most part as they by nature the loans will go against their "safe" lending paractices.

>>23158505
>JPM lends huge sum of money to lower class
>debt bubble pops
>lower class is now homeless and/or hopelessly indebted to JPM for the rest of their lives
First they buy all the silver in the markets and manipulate the price for huge gainz, then they assign themselves a slave class beforehand for the reset. 200iq play from JPM once again.

>>23157175

>they thought it was worth $27/oz

>>23158621
Does he take xlm payment

>>23158711
Get irl friends anon, and redpill them. Make a community of people that got your back when shtf. No man is an island.

>>23157610

Once silver gets past $30, there isn't a doubt in my mind that Bayhorse will quickly double, and that's simply the start. The depreciation in the share price right now is temporary, and arises from a combination of the recent private placement, along with angry old shareholders, who are throwing a tantrum because production isn't happening as quickly as they wanted. It is remarkable that the share price has even held where it is, at -25% from the local peak, just like many other silver stocks, e. g. First Majestic. Graeme O'Neil's decisions ensure that BHS will go far higher, not less high, from now onward. The other properties which he has acquired only make the company infinitely more valuable, not less so; and every ounce of silver at Bayhorse Mine which hasn't been sold so far, will now be sold in future, at far higher silver prices.

>>23158733
I was thinking the same thing at first but isn't the debt going to be mostly unsecured?

>>67 USD for ASE

Jesus Christ how is this even possible?

>>23158621
Posting my stack from russia bro

>>23158784
Yes. https://twitter.com/usmint/status/1314198133342113797

>>23158711
Dilate

>>23158797
The vodka token is really nice, did you ask for russian or german coins?

>>23157175
Managed to double my money today thanks to silver hehehe

>>23158510
local coin shop

>>23158620
Well I didn't find the image on retarddit. /pol/ has it's place when shit is going down, but is a cess pool on a day to day basis. Fucking shills and glowies

>>23158797
One more since an anon asked for a timestamp

>>23158621
>>23158686

>>23158698
Yeah I guess it could be worse. I can't help but feel sympathy towards people who don't know how to manage their economy at all. And for those who cannot put aside any money or work overtime at all, I feel empathy. Still I'm angry that I'm so late on investing, had to read up on it a lot before I had the courage to take the plunge. My family also held me back, telling me to save until I have at least 20k on my bank account. No chance
>>23158774
Sure there isn't a collateral for the bank but they'll just be indebted for the rest of their lives instead

>>23158863
Fuck me

>>23158867
That is how they get you. Old logic does not hold in times of extreme crisis. They just do not understand how hot the water is.

>>23158686
>>23158863
Sorry dunno why i didnt think to

>>23158386
You got the names pretty close actually

>>23158898
Yeah. My mom's reaction when told her that I had bought 100oz of silver was predictable but still I'm glad I told her. I want to make my family proud of me, and I want to show them that I can take care of my economy by myself

>>23158621
>this post is advertising or begging
You know the rules, and so do I....

>>23158883
>>23158921
Again. This is the thing. You need to show some validity to oldsilver.ru since there is mostly no one thinking he is legit until people get his goods.
>>23158968
Hey, listen dude. If your family is blind after you told them, find other people besides them to show how the system is broken. It is getting blood from a turnip. Unless things are affecting their lives rn, normies do not care that trillions are being reaped from their bank accounts in purchasing power.

>23156675

>Tinka- financial side looks good but they arent really doing anything and havent done anything. Theyre not really working the properties they have and no major updates in terms of actually working their property.

This was announced yesterday:

Tinka Commences Drilling at the Ayawilca Zinc-Silver Project

https://ceo.ca/@accesswire/tinka-commences-drilling-at-the-ayawilca-zinc-silver

You mentioned Viscount Mining's 5 million ounces, 7 million inferred. TK has 20 million silver ounces indicated, another 38 million inferred, and they are now beginning to drill for more in the Colqui Silver Zone. They already have one of the best zinc projects in the world, with 7 billion pounds of zinc, and were formerly considered a zinc stock with a silver bonus; but a rising silver price will make them a silver stock with a zinc bonus, and Carman is trying to take the company in that direction. Viscount mcap = $31 million, Tinka mcap = $64 million. Both Viscount and Tinka are sleeping giants, but Tinka is particularly interesting, because Buenaventura already bought a 20% stake at 0.24 CAD, when silver was only $18, and zinc was lower. The share price is actually _down_ 20% since that point. In other words, the rise in zinc and silver not merely hasn't been priced in, it has been completely neglected.

>>23158830
I asked for the nazi coins. I agree I like that silver stamp, but I looked up vodka token as I thought what that might be but I dont think its a vodka token. Just some sort of 999 silver stamp. Really cool piece nonetheless

>>23159001
Fuck off faggot we got like 70 dollars in free silver the least we could do is let people know we actually received the giveaway product (and 2 additional items)

>>23159015
I dont know what else I could provide. I already posted it with the Russian packaging. Unfortunately I already threw the packaging away otherwise I would take a picture of the tracking number.

>>23158921
Nice try Russian scammer. Imagine just putting a few of your own coins on a different coloured table with a torn piece of envelope and expecting people to believe this is a picture taken by a customer and not yourself. Lmao

We don't need a timestamp we need a picture of these coins beside something that can't be in Russia. Like... Mount Rushmore.

>>23158867
It is very, VERY rare to get good financial advice from family. Even people with good jobs are financially illiterate and too afraid to learn themselves.

All my best investments I did against the wishes/advice of my family... I didnt know it at the time but I was basically doing what kiyosaki was talking about.

IE I dropped out of university, flipped houses while learning a trade, invested, cut expenses, and only bought assets (outside of the home I live in+vehicle I drive)

its interesting because I only now started reading rich dad poor dad and its crazy how many things line up.


Fucking stoked, grabbed most of the silver/stonks I could at bottom of the dip, ill get some pics up when I can, 90 oz of poured silver for this anon.

>>23158653
>I can only invest about 600€ a month
Anon that is an accomplishment

>>23159073
ok cool thanks, im eagerly waiting to see what he sent, asked for russian ones.

Fucking sad to see so many losers blindly hating on russiabro. I feel like its the over flow of smg that we get here.

notice how on up days we never see those retards?

>>23158921
That table looks like it's in Russia.

>>23159187
Agree with this anon. Clearly a Russian table.

>>23159073
The tracking number will leak your location anon. Just make sure that next time you come around and the oldsilver.ru is on the bread. Post an image with the timestamp and the number so people can see you post it before.
>>23159091
Poured silver is quite based anon. I want to pick some up once it dips as well. If poured is out of my purchasing in the future, I might start accumulating copper coils to keep up a pouring addiction.

>>23159187
The shills aren’t even trying anymore

>>23159082
Jesus christ here faggot

>>23159187
Where is your fat stack Floor Stacker?

>>23159015
Yeah I'll try and tell some of my friends (the ones that are willing to listen). I'm just kind of worried about my parents because they've only invested in real estate (their own house as well as two or three apartments which they rent for tenants while paying for the mortgages). I guess that's better than nothing but if the bond market crashes and interest rates shoot up they will be in trouble. I get that they want me to save money for school but I want to think about the long term. They tell me to leave the investing stuff for after school, but a depression might hit sooner than that.

>>23159218
>He just printed out that Michigan driver’s license and Social Security card to look legitimate! Don’t trust the Russian collusion!!!

>>23159218
Don't reply to shills/trolls anon. Nice coins btw

>>23159091

Its good to hear that you've made something great of yourself. Great work anon. Be sure to check out his radio podcasts too since he does delve into subjects like PMs, unfunded pension plans, and debt.

>>23159241
Topkek. Im not going any further than that. But I do feel like I needed to at least try to prove its legit

>>23157175
For the anons ITT that post their silver with anime figurines, could you post your acquisitions from oldsilver.ru posed with them? I’m not listening to the shills saying he’s a scammer but I’m still a bit reluctant to buy

>tfw you bought a year back, and this is just a return to where it should have been
>>>>>>>inb4 bogged
Those COMEX defaults really can't start stacking up fast enough.

>>23159272
See >>23159218 unfortunately I am not a figurine poster

>>23159218
Poor poor American tourist.

Frens nickels made before 2014 are currently worth ~$0.0446 in scrap. If the prices of copper and nickel go up 12%, nickels will be worth their face value in scrap. Protect yourself from the coming inflation and hoard nickels.

>>23158801

Wait. So this is telling me to buy into ASEs now before the price jump? This is after thanksgiving? How will LCS react to this? Holy crap I won't see my paycheck before then!

>>23159218
This is proof that the scammer doesn't work alone and he is in fact in collusion with an American.

Absolutely disgusting.

>>23159227
Again, you are doing a hedging strat. Your parents are not. Why do you think people will side with trump? Because their 401k's are going up, and those are unrealized gains like the stock market once you close your position. If your parents do not realize this issue, then Idk what to tell you man. They seem like they need to sit down and understand classical economics and the cantillon effect. https://youtu.be/6Hi4pIjTQ7Q
>>23159315
Yes. However, Many people who came to kitco and all believe we will see a pullback in stocks around december january time due to earnings report, and people will have to meet their margin calls which will temporarily spike down silver no matter the president.

>>23159330
>DONALD DDDRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUMMMPPPHHH
I'm gonna buy from that guy next time. Truly top tier shilling by purchasing an Indian fud team. Jesus Christ. 42D chess omg wow

>>23159467
I’m embarrassed to ask but what does FUD mean?

>>23159218
Weeb round will solve this problem. Anon, post weeb round with russian silver. Only real pmg chads hoards weeb rounds.

>>23159015
>>23159082
>>23159187
Do they have palm trees in russia?

>>23159101
Thank you anon, I started working overtime during weekends and sometimes after work for a couple of hours. I try to keep my bank account cash flow positive even while investing. Still figuring out the percentages but I think 20% to investments from each paycheck is sufficient at the moment
>>23159091
>It is very, VERY rare to get good financial advice from family. Even people with good jobs are financially illiterate and too afraid to learn themselves.
They're not illiterate or even bad at managing economy, they just don't know about investing too much. They know that there are risks involved and they're afraid that I'll burn my money away which is understandable of course. They suffered and got through the 1990's depression here in Finland and are living in a big house in a beautiful, small suburban area surrounded by forestry and they go on vacations every year. They've essentially made it with classic hard work, and are unfamiliar with investing, other than real estate (they rent out a few apartments while paying for the mortgages). I asked them what they would do if real estate markets crashed and they just told me that they'll just keep getting payments from the tenants (which my parents also choose carefully).

Sell me on Rich Dad Poor Dad? I've heard about the book mentioned off-hand a few times before. Also cool Asahi bars
>>23159362
I guess it's just such a far-off idea to them. People tend to think about what's in front of them after all. I'm worried they won't be getting decent retirement allowances too and that isn't even because of the economic state of things, just because of the population structure. There are so many things they should start doing to protect their economy but they seem to think their real estate holdings and pension allowances will suffice. I sincerely hope so too

>>23158489
What do yo u mean hadn't been touched? It dumped from 1.09 CAD to .75, after results posted. Only now recovered a bit.

>>23159516
Based Florida stacker

>>23159362

Okay even if there is a dip coming in later this year. It seems very unprecendend to announce a price hike. If this has to do with the supply of silver and JPM's manipulation. I'd be pretty pissed. Just what the hell is going on behind the curtains?

>>23159295
Topkek. This is actually not a terrible idea for holding what savings you have, given you are okay with having that many coins

>>23159516
Anon you need to cut down one of the trees so other anons can see the approximate age from the rings.

>>23159499
Do Asahi rounds count as weeb rounds

>>23159516
Thanks, friend. I actually have nothing against Rusbro. I just wanted to sow doubt and shit on him until someone like you actually posted some good solid proof. Now I can go and buy some coins instead of trolling.

>>23159486
Fear uncertainty doubt
FUDding an asset or stock essentially means people are trying to cast doubt on it to people who don't necessarily fully understand it.

>>23159516
That’s not a palm tree dumbass

>>23159617
Thanks anon, seems very similar to concern trolling

>>23159565
Comex brought in chinese miners into the comex supply so they can keep up the illusion of supply. Comex to the fed about the short supply, and mint announces hike since they can write it off saying that it is the issue with making new molds for the silver rounds.
>>23159516
No, also based florida man.
>>23159517
They seem like the boomers that bought houses before the housing collapse, and also those who bought tesla stock 3 days before dump.
>>23159575
Asahi rounds are weeb rounds.

>>23159599
/pmg/ redemption arc??????

>>23159533

It didn't dump after results. Results were a few days ago.

>>23159767
K bro

>>23159668
>They seem like the boomers that bought houses before the housing collapse
Actually my father ran a house-building business with my uncle. The business went under during the depression in the 1990's and my parents got fucked in the ass by the government when they couldn't pay their mortgages anymore. My uncle restarted real estate business later and is still at it (though he retired last year because he was just that well off, he's back at it again because not having any work was boring him), my dad became a firefighter and is now a fire chief.
Real estate has worked for my parents pretty well even though it slapped them on the wrist in the 90's. You'd think they would be more wary of the risks after what they had to go through though. They probably think that they've seen the worst of it, while I think the worst is yet to come

>>23159516
How do we know those aren't houseplants?

>>23159886

DV drilling was announced in July, the first drill-results came out on the 7th of October. 1,083 g/t Ag over 2.70 metres within 12.75 meters of 351 g/t Ag.

https://ceo.ca/@newswire/dolly-varden-silver-step-outs-intersect-multiple-silver

Share priced remained at 0.75 CAD until today, when it jumped over 0.90 CAD. Retracement from 1.10 CAD to 0.75 CAD was -30%, normal in a miner bull market, in accordance with other silver stocks like First Majestic; in the case of DV, particularly, following a 350% increase in the share price since February. And at an $83 million mcap, the stock is still dirt cheap.

>>23159923
This is a good point. My suspicion has returned. Please stop fucking with us, Russian scammer guy.

>>23159999

>>23159923
>>23159989
I'm done fucking around with this bullshit, I'm just gonna order at this point to make the anti-Russian shills mad. If I lose the 150$ I don't give a fuck anymore. The Russiabro always seemed pretty cool to me.

>>23160023
Even if he was a scammer you would still get all your money back if you paid with a credit card, you literally have nothing to lose by ordering from him

>>23159965
I am glad to see Dolly Varden getting great results as I expected. There is so much ore hidden out that way at Alice Arm, and so little of the areas ever been properly explored.

>>23159965
Fm dropped more than any other miner because of tax dispute, using AG to compare your miner to is disingenuous because of this. The fall from 1.10 to .74 began well before October 7th and the stock price hasn't recovered at all until today, a few days after the news.
>muh 30% loss is just a normal retracement
>muh 20% gain after the dump is super special

Looks like winters about to hit my little corner of the world early. Got my last little bucket of concentrates before my hands went numb. Time to see whats in it.

>>23160102
>>23160023
Literally the same person changing id's.

>>23159227
Every major decision I've made has been without my (loving) family's approval or understanding. Marines, grad school, leaving high paying corporate job, and now investing and speculating. My dad has a stack of PMs, so he likes that I stack now, but they're all from a generation that grew up with different pressures and in a different environment. They're explicitly concerned ill blow all my savings. I don't blame them, I just dont listen to them or ask for their approval. That being said, I am a bit nervous when all my miners are down 20% and my crypto portfolio is down 60% from August. Finally able to print 1 eth every other day and 10 oz silver on the off days with crypto, but god damn it's nice to believe in yourself.

>>23159599
maybe you should just buy yourself a rope instead of derailing the thread

>>23159218
I'm gonna come down from the UP and take your silver

>>23157175
Anon buy Silver!

>>23157175
bought 25 silver eagle 2020 , when 67$

>>23160193
wrong. also why would I go to all that trouble anyways?
>>23160102
I ain't gonna use credit card, he seems like a nice guy but using credit card on a Russian website, lmao. I ain't that trusting.

>>23160193

>>23160302
>I ain't gonna use credit card
How else would you pay?

>>23160231
I would invest more if I wasn't hell bent on finally getting into a school next year. Godspeed to you anon, I don't know much about crypto but buy the -20% miner dips if you have the capital for that. I know I would

I wish the water would go down just a bit, I could get so much more done but with the water up and how cold it is, I cant reach the deep pay on bedclay.

>>23160351
>>23160302
Epic photoshop skills. Probably learnt in Russian scammer schools funded by Putin. I saw them on Infowars.

>>23160162

>Fm dropped more than any other miner because of tax dispute

This is wrong. Endeavour Silver, another mid-tier producer, dropped 30% from the local peak, and that had nothing to do with a tax dispute. First Majestic regularly dropped 30% in the '01 to '11 miner bull market. There's hardly a single silver junior which didn't drop 25-30% from the local peak in this latest correction. Aurcana, CCW, Silver One, Defiance. Many did so more: Sprott's favourite silver junior, Discovery Metals, fell 36%. I don't think you understand the point. I mentioned DV because it was interesting to see it only react to the excellent drilling-results days after the announcement.

>>23160162
>>23160404

Incidentally, any mining stock, after a 350% run-up in six months, is entitled to a 30% correction. That isn't "dumping," that's normal market behaviour.

>>23160367
I'll probably use a prepaid card.
>>23160399
>Russian scammer schools funded by Putin
fucking based. I haven't been yet, but I'm gonna enroll.

>>23159556
Florida probably has the highest proportion of stackers in the US
>>23159575
Unironically it's a great trade. A literal free call on industrial metals. Illegal to melt for commercial purposes, but copper pennies still sell for spot

Scored some 1967 Canadian quarters for $11.50CAD for $1FV which is $1 under spot. I paid the 50% silver content price for them all but the top ones are 80%. Got some Canadian half dollars too for $18CAD per $1FV— $2 under spot

>>23160404
You are correct, i fail to see the point you are making about the zomg 20% pump after the 30% sell off, days after the news. DV is a speculative microcap these swings are all normal market behavior when you are talking about penny stocks

>>23160630
Nice looking coins anon

>>23160687

A mining stock not moving an inch in reaction to excellent results, and then suddenly going up 22% a day or two later, is an interesting anomaly. VGLD, AZS, and CNX, all jumped 30% the moment their results came out. The jump in DV's share price wasn't random, it was a delayed response to the results.

>>23160591
That settles it. Im picking up a box of nickels tomorrow. Actually ordered a coin magnifying glass off Amazon that should be here tomorrow too, so that'll give me something to do with it as well

Now what?

>>23160735
Thanks. Wanna know how got such a good deal? Literally posted an ad on craigslist listing my prices and have been getting deals left and right

I'm honest and don't lowball but I probably could. If craigslist is dead where you live use another local buy/sell site

Forgot to post pic

>>23160925

>>23159055

>>23160963
Now we wait fro the crash. When GSR goes up, swap all that Silver for Gold, then wait for the food to begin to be rationed. Then, live like a baron and pick up FWTDHWs, 1 week per silver ounce.

>>23160630
How do leafs differentiate the 50% and 80% junk silver from 1967?

>>23160963
Calculate total worth and select an heir or heirs to it if you suddenly die

>>23160630
how are you differentiating between the 80% and 50%?

I thought all the couger/fish ones were 80% but i could be wrong

PM noon, got a 1/4 gold eagle and just ordered a 10oz bar of silver. should I buy some junk every other week or so, or wait and save for plat? trying to hedge investments, but might just dump most of it in metals and keep the rest liquid

>>23160961
Very nice anon. Not a bad idea if you dont have an lcs around you - can absorb a lot of the PMs the lcs would otherwise absorb at a cheap cost.

>>23160963
Nice stack

Hey any /macro/ anons on? Covid as a financial reset anon here - was trying to look out for the macro general today but couldn't find it. Decided I'd try to bake the first bread but I have since realized I am not very skilled in that regard.

>>23161104
I can bake the bread, but lets stick with pmg since we both help each other by sticking together. Macro economics are really lacking in this generation.

>>23161027
Personally I just found a 1966 quarter and compared the pings for each '67 to the '66. Not guaranteed but it's fairly easy to differentiate the ping tone if you flip them consecutively. The 50% has a noticeably higher pitched ping

Eric Sprott today, timestamp 17:00:

"My favourite board is ceo.ca. Has wonderful, high-level inputs from thinking people where they are trying to add some creative conversation to the analysis. That would be my favourite. I also use Stockhouse."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XR9NUiTmTY

Makes me laugh, this is exactly the advice which I have been giving people here for months.

>>23161135
Actually thats a fair point. You saying that makes me wonder if its best to just have macro discussions in pmg as long as other anons are good with that. A new general just means there's two places to look for actual relevant discussion and may pull away some of the bigger contributors to this general. Any other anons have any thoughts?

>>23158620
>>23158851
Both statements are true.
Also, Prep the BHLL lads

>>23161049
I believe all silver coins in 1967 were minted with 80% silver content in the first half of the year, and 50% for the last half. And then in 1968 the first half of the year was 50% and the second half pure nickel.

This is why I like the cut-and-dry silver debasement of American junk after 1964

>>23159218
a russian mexican illegal....
You have to go back

>>23161059
Might be a good idea to just stick to gold and silver right now, but it's your call. Junk silver's great to get silver near its spot value

>>23161290
66 and earlier is 80%, 67 is some 50% some 80%, i might just take my 67 commemorative stuff to the LCS and use the xrf machine to test and see.

I prefer the designs on some cad stuff like the 50c pieces, but the cut and dry nature of murican silver is nice, and I prefer 90% to 80%.

It is such a shame that so few understand how much we got robbed by swapping off silver/gold. three quarters as min wage back then is almost 20$ an hour now... well over min wage... and yet trying to explain to people why they cant buy anything and all you get is "tax the rich! we need more programs! big daddy gubment will save us!"

How much are the pre-67 quarters worth in leafland? I've always collected coins, and keep lots of the old ones because they're old.. So I have a fair amount of those quarters.

>>23161207

Was able to find some old posts where I answer somebody's questions about researching mining stocks. Really makes me laugh to think of Eric Sprott, billionaire, going on ceo.ca and Stockhouse and reading the same comments which all of us have to trudge through in order to do our research.

>>23158620
there may be

>>23161444
worth silver melt or slightly over to private individuals. worth just under melt to LCS.

>>23161440
Nice stack, I like the jewelry piece too. A guy walking around 60 years ago with a couple dollars in change has the same amount of money in his pocket as someone who has $100 in fiatbux in his wallet

>>23161444
Melt value for a dollar in 50% '67s is $12.53CAD
Melt value for a dollar in 80% '67s is $20.05CAD

>>23157175
Does JM Bullion keep records of my purchases? Do they have KYC and AML regulations? Will they rat on me to the gubment assuming I haven't already lost my gold in a tragic boating accident?

>>23161690
Only if you buy more than 9999 usd in a span of 24h

>>23161611
Holy that's not bad!! What about dimes?

>>23161775
For the '67 dimes the figures are the same for every $1FV, depending on whether or not they're 80% or 50%

>>23161775
The 80% stuff is 60% of an oz per dollar so divide spot x .6 by 10

>>23157453
Just wait a week and that’s what they will be going for normally

Is a big dog the next best option besides a firearm for stack defense? Other than keeping it well hidden in a floor mounted safe ofc

>>23162221
Shouldn't I cancel it and order 2020 ASEs from JM for less money though?

Check comes in tomorrow. I got $1000 I can throw at PMs. I’m thinking getting ASEs cause the price rise. My stack is Junk, ASEs and a couple bars. Any advice on what’s best to get this weekend?

>>23162305
Cancel the order. Get from JM or whatever bullion place you’d like.

>>23160591
>>23160822
Copper penny stacking is based, do people really not think that if we ever go into some kind of dollar crash situation that copper pennies wont have any kind of trade value?

>>23162316
Hold anon. There is a pullback in the future. We do not know were it will pullback, but I am waiting until post election to buy for a potential October surprise. I will say, if you want to buy now. Get american silver eagles before their premiums go up.

>>23162327
Alright thanks man. I've been stacking ASEs for some time now from a lcs but I'm still relatively inexperienced. I didn't know the US mint is at a stupid ass premium that is impossible to recoup (until ASEs go to $60 anyway)

>>23161444
An 80% Canadian Quarter is ~0.147 ozt.
A 50% Canadian Quarter is ~0.09 ozt.

>>23160986
I could have sworn I saw a one kilo silver Britannia bar last year for sale but now I can't find a listing at all for one. Not even a sold out listing.

>>23162316

that's a kilo bar

>>23162420
I want one.

>>23162336
Penny hoarding is indeed based, but as far as the copper pennies themselves having trade value I couldn’t see it. If cooper were to skyrocket then the copper pennies would still only be worth 10 to 20 cents, not really enough for barter imo. But removing the zinc with nitric acid then melting them into bars would be a good idea

>>23162420
>>23162462
It’s a 10 toz bar.
>>23162342
I know I shouldn’t let fear guide my purchases but Ive only got 100 toz and I really have no confidence that things are going to remain stable.

>>23162496

i mean you should buy kilo bars.

>>23158653
You can still make some plays friend. For example, i havent completed my research on them yet, but Silver spruce is looking like a good candidate. Their stock price is five cents. You can take that 600 bucks and own ten thousand shares. I havent read their financials yet, but theres plenty of opportunities homie. Imagine that, ten thousand shares. If the stock goes up to five bucks you just made fifty thousand dollars.

more metal for the money

>>23162496
Again, remember margin calls. Those investors will pull out of silver market since they think are held accountable to stocks not paper silver.

>>23158711
Ive never used discord but that might be a good idea.

>>23162478
So *theoretically* if someone was to *recreationally* melt down copper pennies and pre 2014 nickels into bars, would that be more or less profitable than separating out the metals for pure bars

What price is silver gonna open on Monday lads?

>>23161746
Their website says bank wires and ACH aren't reported which is what I've been doing. Guess the bank has that info now though.

>>23158765
Thats what im thinking too and i agree with your observations. Bayhorse is making all the right moves to become a power player. Im holding my 10k shares for big returns.

>>23162478
Fair enough, the first step towards cashless society imo will be getting rid of the penny and I could honestly see them doing it within the next 5 years, I think once that happens people will start hoarding. Not as fast and rapid as in 1964 when everyone started saving their silver, but I already notice less copper pennies then usual in my change, I'd say they make up about 10% of pennies in circulation right now in my experience. Could also be the government confiscation them to deal with this "coin shortage" I have my theories about that just like I think everyone else here does, but thats a whole other thing

>>23159040
Thank you for chiming in. I was not aware of this. I will probably pick up a couple shares

>>23162538
Recognizability anon, would you rather have a 90% bar of silver or a bunch of 90% junk silver coins?

>>23161775
$1.70 in 80% CAD junk is a troy oz. Doesn't matter the denominations

>>23162542
45 hours 25 minutes to market open

>>23162564
I honestly might just get a $10 box of pennies from the bank and take out all the copper, I’ve only got a few pounds of pre-1982 and I’ve got some time to burn

>>23162586
Except it's illegal to melt down pennies and nickels for industrial purposes. Base metals don't get hoarded because you would need too much of it. Nickel is like $15,000 for a kilo ton.

>>23162632
Yeah, I've done that a few times, not really a great return on time investment but if you've got nothing better to do its a fun way to make a little potential money in the future and a way to stack when gold and silver prices might be a little too high for your liking

>>23162653
Exactly, since melting pennies is illegal (not for much longer imo) I would just hold off on doing it atleast until it is legal. However if you wanna smelt a couple copper bars in modded minecraft just for fun then go ahead

>>23161467
He might even be here for all we know....

Hey guys , I got my silver eagle today! I think I'm going make it

>>23161467
Silver miner anon, have you uncovered any more “diamond in the rough” microcaps lately, like you did weeks ago with Silver Spruce? I’m looking at Latin American Minerals as an interesting microcap for maybe a very small speculative position.

>>23162693
>He might even be here for all we know....
if he is you probably reported him for disagreeing with you and he got banned

>>23162746
Im not him but some good ones ive found is viscount, tinka,sikver spruce and vangold. I havent completed research yet but heres where im at with each one.

Viscount- looks amazing from every aspect but i havent gotten access to Their financials yet. Thats my only concern is that i havent checked.

Tinka- looks solid

Silver spruce- everything looks great. They havent drilled yet but all assays they have done look really good.

Vangold- I need to look into them. Havent got there yet.

>>23162402
They are nowhere to be found

Is there a brokerage better for mining stocks? I typically stay away from stocks and I only here bad about Robin Hood.

So the price of 2021 ASE being $67 will cause older ASE to be worth more or no?

>>23162951
But I didn't imagine it right?

>>23162977
Wealthsimple which is a Canadian app gives access to most Mining Stocks globally on the TSX. But last time I used it, it offered no options.

>>23162914
One thing I find is that I have a hard time buying tinka. My limit is .135 usually and the stock dips below that, and I still don't get any orders fulfilled. Ends the trading day at 1.4 and all I can do is shrug my shoulders..

>>23162977
I think Fidelity is pretty good because OTC fees are free or low compared to other brokers

Someone needs to tell a mid level company to buy up the Zeballos gold fields over on Vancouver Island. The Privateer Mine alone would be worth hundreds of millions if only a competent company could go in and get it explored.

>>23162977
I use interactive brokers and it's gay as fuck because it has most of the miners but you have to buy on foreign exchanges. Another anon here likes TD. I think he said it'd a flat rate of like 7 dollars per penny stock commission which is cheaper than interactive brokers .005 cents a share when buying in any appreciable amount

>>23162996
Im not sure, after scouring every bullion dealer for some 10 oz Brit. bars and finding all sold out, I gave up. That was about a month and a half ago

>>23162711
One silver eagle? How does 1 billion dollars sound?

>>23163012
hundreds of millions isn't a lot

>>23163012
Why don't you take your information somewhere and convince them and then charge a 1% consulting fee

>>23162977
I use Schwab and it's pretty user-friendly

>>23163050
Maybe I saw the 100 ounce Britannia bar. There's one on Ebay right now for five fucking thousand dollars.

>>23162983
Probably, depends on how much the third parties are buying the eagles from the mint for, if there paying $67 a pop then eagles are basically unobtanium at that point

>>23162595
Based

>>23163030
I use td because of the tos platform but its recently gone to shit

>>23163030
I use IB because im australian and there isn't really a cheaper alternative that gives me access to the small cap foreign miners, but god damn the whole IB experience is a pain in the ass.

>>23162914
Thank you for the recommendations. I already have positions in all of these so we're definitely on the same page here. I just have this weird fascination towards finding a mining company with a market cap less than 10 million and decent potential. Latin American Minerals come close to fitting that bill from what I've read.

>>23163063
I am willing to bet there is an incredible mine waiting to be worked out there, it just needs the right company.
>>23163064
I actually dont know much about that particular area, I ve only been out there once, but I have read the reports about the areas geology and placers many times. I am mentioning it now because I was just chatting to a geo at the Wells Hotel who was working for Troubadour Resources out that way last year. He thinks it could be a world beater, but the company is junk due to poor management.

>>23163149
you and me could do it with a large tarp, a sprinkler system, a couple backhoes, and a few tons of cyanide

>>23163181
yea that could work, just need to buy the ground off Troubadour for a few million.

>>23163200
I have a few million but I doubt the wife will approve that transaction

>>23163146
Did you ever end up being able to convert your cash and buy what you want?

>>23163051
My silver eagle brings me to 14 oz of silver

>>23162746

To tell the truth, I can't find anything which I consider better than what I'm already holding. Right now, almost all my net-worth is in only a few positions. Have talked about them before. DV, SVE, IRV, IPT, to name the four most "reliable," in my view. My plan is to wait until these go up along with $30-50 silver, since I see them as sure bets, and only then to use the profits to invest in any laggards which have not gone up yet, or which are still presenting opportunities. You know my favourite small-caps, along with the four ones above-mentioned: BHS, SSE, KS, TK, VML, VGLD, ELO, CCW, FWZ, AZS. I was going to write a list of about 40 different positions which I take some sort of interest in, but only a few of them are microcaps, and I don't consider any of them better than what I already own, so I'd only be giving you inferior information. For example, one curious microcap which I know of is Black Tusk ($5 million mcap). But it recently got a heavy investment by Palisade, which immediately killed my interest in the stock, and they also seem to be messing about their investors with respect to their drilling plans. You may want to investigate Blue Lagoon, Mountain Boy Minerals, Silver Viper, and Nicola Mining, but these all have $30 million mcaps, so I'm not sure if you consider that low enough to interest you.

>>23162746
Keep an eye on Scottie Gold and Decade Resources. They both have done great this season exploration wise, and I expect them to do so again next season.

>>23159644
It’s called a Christmas Palm buddy, its just young

How much money should 5 silver dimes cost me from the 1950s? Not sure if im being ripped off here.

>>23162653
>>23162680
>it's illegal!
who fucking cares you cucks?

>>23163145
>I just have this weird fascination towards finding a mining company with a market cap less than 10 million and decent potential.

i doubt a single one exists now anon. under $20mil maybe, under $30mil sure. maybe a few months ago, but the cat is out of the bag now and we in the later stages of the accumulation phase of a bull market.

>>23163145

I think in answer to this I'd say, I don't know of ten different small mcap companies which I'd rather spread my wealth across, rather than put it all in (e. g.) BHS or KS. I consider these of such high quality that I believe I'll do better by betting big on them, rather than spreading myself thin across other potential opportunities.

>>23163362
The FBI man reading through 4chan.org/biz/pee_em_gee cares

>>23163362
>who fucking cares you cucks?
the people you're selling them to

>have multimillion dollar recycling company
>risk losing it for a few thousand in melted coins
doesn't happen

>>23163393
No they don't, no one cares about molten pennors.

>>23163254
Thank you. I have both Mountain Boy (which is the most curious name for a company I've ever seen) and Silver Viper. Will check out the other two. Perhaps I'm being reckless and should just fortify the "sure thing" positions I have, which significantly overlap with what you've posted, instead of spreading myself too thin. Thanks again.

>>23163145

I think in answer to this I'd say, I don't know of ten different microcap companies which I'd rather spread my wealth across, than put it all in (e. g.) BHS or KS. I consider these of such high quality that I believe I'll do better by betting big on them, rather than spreading myself thin across other potential microcap opportunities.

>>23163364

There are still some companies with $5 million mcaps which show a certain degree of promise ( e.g. Black Tusk, First Energy Metals, Blind Creek), but they all have problems, like predatory or incompetent management, and I feel that my money would go farther in any number of quality $50-$150 mcap companies. I'd rather have $10,000 in Dolly Varden than put the same cash in 20 different little bets, because I know that, with something like Dolly Varden, it's impossible for me to lose if silver goes up. There are a certain number of microcap companies which I like, and have talked about here numerous times, but I am very selective about them.

Is silver fraud a problem like gold fraud?

>>23163356
There's .0723 troy ounces in a silver American dime

.0723 x 5 dimes = .3615 troy ounces
.3615 x $25.14USD (current spot for one troy ounce) =
$9.09USD. You'll probably pay a bit more as a premium

>>23163512
No, the silver fraud is the basis of modern technological boom, and helps legitimize the 'power' of the dollar in people's mind.

>>23163541
I meant like this

>>23163471

Nicola Mining is particularly interesting for four reasons: They have their own fully permitted mill, they own 100% of a high-grade silver mine (Treasure Mountain), they own one of the highest-grade copper mines ever, and most importantly, the chat is dead silent, which is generally a good sign. I had to do all my research on them pretty much on my own. The CEO seems like a reasonable and intelligent man in interviews. I don't own the stock right now, but if it continues to be relatively cheap in future, I will buy it.

The CEO of BLLG has appeared on Arcadia Economics and the other silver Youtube channels; he will do a good job of explaining himself.

>>23163512
The fact that you're asking the question means you're on the right track

>>23163586
talk about being jewed

I LOVE SILVER SO MUCH
MY STACK IS THE BEST THING WHO EVER HAPPENED IN MY LIFE
NEVER SELLING; ONLY CUDDLING

I WANT TO MARRY MY STACK

>>23163586
That is a fat f.

>>23163586
Silver usually does not have that issue unless you buy off of ebay. If you buy silver shot, most likely you will get legit unlike gold shot.

>>23163702
Post proofs

>>23163702
The reason why is because silver is less known as a precious metal except in asia where you can expect a lot of counterfitting.

>>23163609
I mean molybdenum has a density of 10.28 g/cm^3 and silvers is 10.49 g/cm^3.
An ounce of molybdenum costs about 60c. Why wouldn't people do it?
>>23163702
Maybe I'm just being paranoid

>>23163598
Will definitely research this. Just wanted to share this, as I'm sure you'll find it interesting given his enthusiasm for Silver Spruce:

Colibri Resources (4m market cap):

"@oldbanker Under. The. Radar. 1$ by FEB 21 (my guess)"

"@oldbanker Massively under the radar. A true pearl of an explorer. Mark my words.
The company has a clear strategy for all of their projects, and does JVs with good conditions and partners. Very experienced management."

"@oldbanker I like the silence. As the metals rise and rise, the value investors will eventually rind out about this pearl of a stock (great projects with more than good JV partners) and realize that the asks are thin all the way up, so I see a splendid future in front of us. I guess 50 cents on or before Christmas are more than possible."

Trading at six cents as of Friday.

>1 oz silver costs $30
>price of silver is $25

Am i missing something? how do you avoid the 20% mark up?

>>23163737

Yes, I actually clicked on Colibri and saw those comments today. It's interesting that @oldbanker is literally the _only_ person posting there. You have a little community of people who are interested in Silver Spruce, but there's not a solitary soul in the entire universe who cares about Colibri apart from him. As he seems equally sure about Colibri as he is about SSE I preferred to put all my money in SSE, because SSE seemed the more promising investment of the two.

>>23163719
Dude you are not being paranoid, you are asking a very pertinent and important question. How many people ITT ever really check the purity of their stuff?
>acid test
Only works on the surface
>specific gravity
Molybdenum is really really close
>testing machine
Results will vary depending on manufacture

Nobody *ever* melts/cuts/drills their shit. Gotta protect that numismatic value after all.

>>23159516
Hand looks a bit dark skinned to me.

>>23163710
Dude, I am not a lcs dealer. I am passing info from previous breads.
>>23163719
You might, but better to have neodimium magnet to test or a sigma machine https://www.sigmametalytics.com/shop..

>>23163737
The.problem with silver spruce though is that their financials arent good and they havent found any proven silver. Assays all look good though... Im hesistant on that one.

>>23160231
Final use for crypto is metal.

>>23163831
You misunderstand me. I mean post proofs that your bullion doesn't have chocolate centers.

>>23163838
Hey fren, you promised us a follow up of your miiners' investigation in last thread, how is it going? I wanna read it!

>>23163838

Pino is only 10 miles away from Coeur's Mining's flagship mine at Palmarejo, which produces 8 million ounces of silver per annum. The geo who did field work on Pino and wrote an NI 43-101 said that there might be 120 million ounces of silver there. I'm there that _is_ silver there, it's simply a question of how right or wrong that geo was. The stock didn't get to $19 in 2011 for no reason. Pino de Plata literally means Silver Spruce in Spanish.

>>23163818
I only just started stacking and have a 10 oz cast bar bought through a reputable Australian dealer but it just seems like it's easier to fake than people talk about.
Thermal conductivity should change too.
Oh well I don't mind tooooooo much as long as I can get rid of them if I need to.

>>23163930
you guys concentrate way too much on the ground and not nearly enough on the company

>>23163895
I test mine with sound and slides since they are smaller than 5 oz. Once you hear silver hitting each other for long enough, you know if it is fake.

>>23163938
>it just seems like it's easier to fake than people talk about
Exactly. Realistically, the only way to get away with widespread fakery is to put chocolate cores in really big bars (100+ toz or similar) or put silver wrappers on chocolate coins, then seal them in a mint monster box. Don't trust anything bigger than a kilo, and probably not even some kilos.

>>23163986
Haha wouldn't it be funny if you got used to hearing the sound of fake silver and discard genuine silver because you think it sounds fake haha

>>23163710
tee hee

>>23164011
That is what the magnets are for. To test if I am wrong, and it sounds like it.

>>23164014
that image made my dick jump. If they made that coin in 5 oz with that level of relief...

>>23163818
anon... specific gravity works, the two elements being "close" does not matter, its like saying 1.25 grams is close to 1.4, sure it is, but you can measurably tell the difference.

secondly, xrf testers can tell, these machines quite simply work.

It is easier to counterfeit paper money then bullion, and less places will test the double fake fiat vs bullion.

>>23163966

@oldbanker |

"What I like about SSE is that they are no pushers. Not a Co. that brags about things. Good strategic management, will do the right steps IMO."

"been in here for years and am happy with mgmt"

"I trust this management quite a lot"

"I am stacking SSE. Top notch management (CBI related) love that, really."

"look at their financials (reported about 1-3 weeks ago). I see they are really cash conserving, and the only real "payout" was the options they issued (still out of the money!) as an incentive, so I am very positive."

@Canoff | "Management is solid here - and that they dropped Cocula is a good sign"

"Almost all of the times we have experienced insider selling, it was to re-fund the company through a private placement."

"I like that they report clean and fast. Management is up to date on everything. They have some good bite."

>>23163838
if it was proven, their price would be 50c to 1$+...
if you wait till everything is proven and known, then its also priced in. Is it speculative? sure it is, but its not blind faith or anything, there is really good ground in that area.

>>23163772
that's the premium you pay your dealer. It covers processing, distribution, the money they make on each sale to you.

>>23164286
I mean to be fair premiums more than doubled in the march crash. But yeah

>>23164002
I'm assuming silver that gets diverted for industrial use is melted down
>>23164109
but that only works if you replace exactly the same volume that you took out and doesn't take into account alloys. Granted at a certain point it becomes infeasible to test and hollows would make it obvious.
>secondly, xrf testers can tell, these machines quite simply work.
XRF only penetrates to certain depths depending on the tube excitation, the material and geometry (fluroescence also has to escape out). I don't know if instruments capable of analysing large samples are all that common (they might be, I just don't know).
You can test with ultrasound too, can't you?

>>23164286
But 20% is ridiculous.

>>23163772
>Am i missing something? how do you avoid the 20% mark up?

You must refine cheap silver scrap, mine silver ore yourself, or become a coin dealer and pay low dealer buy prices for what you want. Paying retail premiums sucks but it's not the only way.

>>23164327
This

How am I doing anons? I bought some of this and inherited the rest.

>>23164109
>xrf testers can tell,
no they can't.

xrf measures the surface, not the contents

>>23164125
I love that every one of those sounds completely fake

>>23164439
I see a loaf of bread and an egg in your future

>>23164439
V.nice
>>23164109
>smart people can't come up with ways to defeat these tests
Only way to tell for sure is by destroying the numismatic value of your stack.

>>23164459
Doesn’t seem right. There’s an 1.25 oz of gold there.

>>23164439
I don't even trust the morgans and seateds anymore after all the fakes I've seen bought and sold

>>23164455

@oldbanker advocated for East Asia Minerals before it soared 250%, and K92 Mining before it soared 163%, there's nothing fake about him. His choices are successful, selective, and passionately advocated for.

>>23164522
Thanks fren. Have some of my pidser.

>>23164322
>I don't know if instruments capable of analysing large samples are all that common (they might be, I just don't know).
they're easy to get for about $75k US, but they drill holes in what they test, so no good for coins

>>23164326
Buy paper than , and see how ridiculous it is after that

>>23164523
Exactly. That's how bad it's going to get

>>23164537
I bought from Apmex. Have any of those been found to be fake...I’m new to metals. Mostly a crypto and stock guy. Bought these as a hedge against inflation and because my family left me some stuff.

>>23164455
>>23164540

Just realized that I should have said 274% for K92, since he was advocating for that earlier than I thought. He also likes BHS, which doubled since he advocated for it.

>>23164540
fair enough, I don't know the guy. Nor do I care to.

it's the passionate advocacy that makes it all sound scammy

>>23164439
Need more junk and generics. You seem to buy only brand name which will carry you so far. Also, it seems like the person who can make your own silver. Try that out and get some silver shot and furnace.

>>23164593
Well, I’ve got a shotgun and storable food and water if it gets that bad.

>>23157175
aren't you guys tired of watching crypto make 500 times your gains?

Anyone know when the price increase at the US Mint happens?

>>23164455
>>23164540

Just realized that I should have said 274% for K92, since he was advocating for that earlier than I thought. He also likes BHS, which doubled since he advocated for it.

>>23164605

It _should_ matter to you who he is. Not personally (I don't know him personally); but the point about ceo.ca is that you can check people's post history, in order to verify their trustworthiness. It goes back years. You know who the credible people are, because they are the ones who choose the winners and avoid the losers.

>>23164597
afaik APMEX is good. Lots of fakes everywhere else though
>>23164604
sounds like cherry picking. Anyone can be an amazing stock picker if they delete all their bad choices.

>>23164644
>It _should_ matter to you
I own a mining company, why should I care to invest in other people's much smaller mining companies? Most of them strike me as scams seeking funding before they suddenly suffer some unfortunate business or regulatory mishap and are forced to settle all their capitol into the pockets of their poor owners.

>>23163912
I posted it earlier. I will post it again tomorrow morning. I gotta go to bed.

>>23164646

He doesn't delete his posts, people like that are mocked and blacklisted by other users. You can read his post history and see him consistently advocating for the same stocks in every post. He also has an account on Stockhouse where he advocates for the same stocks (Silverrichman), and I don't even know that you can delete your posts there.

>>23164691
then he's playing the insider track and the stock performance has more to do with his shilling than the fundamentals of the company.

>>23164646
Good to know. Thanks fren.

>>23164147
I understand. However i like to have something a liiiiittttllle more solid. Also. They dont own any of their properties i believe.

>>23164679

>I own a mining company, why should I care to invest in other people's much smaller mining companies?

It's common for mining companies to invest in other mining companies. To take a random recent example, Hecla is buying shares in Dolly Varden.

>>23164717

>then he's playing the insider track and the stock performance has more to do with his shilling than the fundamentals of the company.

Haha. Yes, of course. A random user on ceo.ca who gets six upvotes on a good day can make a stock like K92 reach a $1.5 billion market cap, or cause EAS to get environmental permits from the Indonesian government. Besides, if your theory is that this old gentleman is an insider, why wouldn't you take his suggestions?

>>23164786
>Hecla is buying shares in Dolly Varden.
indeed, but is it a takeover or an investment? or both?

>>23164786
>if your theory is that this old gentleman is an insider, why wouldn't you take his suggestions?
I would. But I don't buy stock in other mining companies. It's shady and well-regulated because I'm an insider.

>>23164786
Hecla is very interested in Dolly Varden because their looking for new ground to work on when their Lucky Friday property becomes exhausted. They have been around for 100 years doing the same thing. Operating a few mines, and buying into others to secure future reserves.

How do you interpret what happened to the markets today?

>>23164844

It's not a takeover, DV is simply very well favoured by institutions. Institutional investors own six tenths of the shares. Less than one fifth of the float is in the hands of individual investors (excluding Sprott).

>>23164853

Thank you, this is another interesting piece of history.

>>23164786
>A random user on ceo.ca who gets six upvotes on a good day can make a stock like K92 reach a $1.5 billion market cap, or cause EAS to get environmental permits from the Indonesian government
predict, not cause

that's the thing. Predicting events like that consistently is impossible. If something's impossible you have to look at what's possible. Cherry picking or insider knowledge are possible. Can you think of other ways he's doing it? I can't Fundamentals don't even predict who gets permits or buys or contracts ir capital..

>>23164927

Forgot to add, I excluded Hecla from the institutions, since we were discussing them; they own another tenth, and, excluding retail investors, Sprott owns the rest.

>>23164927
>It's not a takeover, DV is simply very well favoured by institutions
who never facilitate takeovers when things go sour?

>>23164966

There are some extremely successful investors on ceo.ca who consistently get things right. I'll give you another example, a person called Vette450. He's one of the most belligerent and arrogant people on the website, but he's also a self-made multi-millionaire at the age of 35, and his paper trades are excellent. He was consistently attacking NRN just before it plunged into the gutter, and he has been advocating for Benz Mining all the way to going 10x. Do I believe that everything which he says is right, no. But I do accord him much more credibility because of his record of success.

>>23164860
The US mint is the first to admit the physical market and the paper market are completely decoupled and the paper traders are freaking out and refusing to sell. Probably.

>>23164522
You have to literally replicate gold to defeat the tests anon. Your are a pretty obvious FUD troll or an idiot who does not understand science at a basic level.
>>23164455
not even close to true. You simply do not know what you are talking about, or are intentionally misleading people. Judging from the rest of your posts you are just garbage.

>>23165015
an actual great investor is right about 50.01% of the time. Barely over half the time.

if you meet someone with a better track record than 51% right they're an insider, not a picker. And in time the feds tend to pick them off.

>>23165027
>not even close to true.
single ray xrf goes almost 10 molecules deep. Google what I say or stay stupid, I don't care.

>>23165050

It's not insider knowledge, simply fundamentals. Vette450 bought Bz because it was trading at under $3 an ounce, and the market cap was ridiculously cheap. I don't have insider knowledge, and I have chosen any number of stocks since March which done just as well. It's simply about seeing an opportunity when others don't. The very fact that we are investing in silver mining stocks at all is seeing an opportunity when others don't. I chose to ignore the fud in March about silver and buy the low because I knew that the fundamentals would win, and I was right to do so. I will continue to ignore the fud and hold my miners for the same reason. Not because somebody tells me to do so, but because I understand economic certainties.

plz rate my folio stock anons

>>23165067
>single ray xrf goes almost 10 molecules deep

holy fuck you are retarded... or malicious.

no one take anything seriously that this idiot says.. he thinks that the most popular testing method, one which has clearly been proven to pick up plated fakes, doesnt work at all.

It works even through the plastic packages, which is more then 10 molecules thick. FFS there are many many videos of people finding fakes where the gold is layered thickly around non gold elements.

>>23165157
I'd expect all of your picks and 99% of Pan Man's to be bankrupt in 5 years. Because that's the track record. Showing gains in a 6 month period is great, but you're trading on psychology, not fundamentals.

statistically the fundamentals are almost always shit over a 3 year time frame.

>>23165206
I see you don't know the types of xrf.

>>23164625
Silver is about preserving wealth, not mooning.
Lurk more.

>>23165206
look, I'll explain because you're retarded

you can see through plastic fairly well, and so can x-rays. You can't see through metal and neither can x-rays.

to see into metals you need two x-rays focused at whatever depth you want to measure. Those machines exist, but they're not the xrf guns you're thinking of. They're huge, expensive, and destructive.

>>23165235

We have discussed this matter before, and all I can do is to repeat what I said last time, i. e. that we are no longer in a miner bear market, that this is going to be a lasting bull one, and that precious metals are going to be the only thing left standing once fiat currencies disappear, which is soon and inevitable. I know that you don't believe that precious metals are essentially money, and that's why we disagree on the matter. In my view, as I have sometimes said in these threads, you could throw darts at stock names with the word "Silver" in them right now, and still have a very good chance of success.

>>23164439
Nice Assay Office bar, there are people out there who'll pay a premium for those.

>>23165157
>>23165264
Sounds like some bored people just want to troll right now.

retards like >>23165249 and the people you are replying too are just spouting bullshit

>>23165277

>"hurr durr you see, x rays go through glass or plastic cause its see through, but have trouble going through opaque things, hurr durr"

KEK the absolute state. stay poor fag

>>23165296
fair enough

my perspective as a miner is that this game is cyclical, and this bull run will certainly end.

perhaps you're right and this will be the end of fiat, but there's enormous momentum supporting it. Either way, thanks for your thoughts. I don't recognize you from before and I appreciate the considered responses.

>>23164439
lucky bastard! nice inheritance!

>>23165330
read a book you fucking idiot

>>23165330
>https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/materials/can-xrf-analyzers-provide-accurate-results-through-plastic-bags/

>>23165309

I believe that he is sincere in his views, and that he may be jaded by a long history of involvement in the mining industry, and the cycle of boom and bust in precious metals. It doesn't follow that every single person who owns a mining company is going to believe in sound money or Austrian economics.

Actually wrote this post before this one appeared >>23165336 which confirms what I suspected.

I may be thinking of somebody else, but at any rate, thank you very much for your thoughts also, which I value as being in opposition to mine, and I am glad that we can agree to disagree in a civil way.

Does this count?

>>23165391
Priceless.

>>23165391
>https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86159.html
>Copper-Nickel
No.

>>23165381
cheers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpSqPNhOZRU

>>23165365
"XRF can nondestructively analyze gold, silver, and platinum group metals, as well as nonprecious alloying metals, contaminants, and gold plating. XRF can even be used to identify certain fake gemstones, such as cubic zirconia, titanite, and leaded glass.Jan 31, 2019"

Read a fucking book yourself, the xrf that bullion dealers use are specifically designed to detect plated gold/silver.

>>23165381
I dont know why you would believe him considering the outlandish claims being made by him.

He may not be lying about being a miner, he may not be lying about being a mine owner, he may not even be lying about being a multi millionaire.

But he is 100% lying about scientifically proven processes that identify elements being unreliable.

>>23165391

>>23165527
>the xrf that bullion dealers use are specifically designed to detect plated gold/silver.
we use the same guns they're talking about

which don't go below the surface

>>23165391
Pog slammers are based.

Once while plumbing the depths of a storm sewer for gold jewelry and coins under a residential area, I climbed up and stuck my hairy head out of an open manhole to look around and get my bearings. I peer around behind me and see this 8 year old black kid standing nearby staring dumbfounded at what just emerged in front of him, so the first thing that came to mind was to yell "Cowabunga DUDE!!" at him then immediately drop back down into the sewer.

I heard the kid hollering for the hills, it was hilarious. Found some silver coins that day too.

Someone make a new bread. I would but I’m phone posting.

>>23165551
Can you explain why xrf are sold, and advertised, as specifically detecting gold/silver plate?

Can you explain why I have personally used one and detected many plated fakes with it?

Mining ones are not designed the same for what its worth, so you may just be ignorant that other fields of work have ones designed specifically to detect fakes, vs ones designed to determine a wide spectrum of elements in ore that is rarely faked for obvious reasons.

Because even the site YOU linked advertises their XRF products as detecting plated objects
from https://www.thermofisher.com/ca/en/home/industrial/spectroscopy-elemental-isotope-analysis/portable-analysis-material-id/portable-metal-manufacturing-inspection-recycling-solutions/portable-precious-metals-jewelry-analysis.html

"Niton DXL and Niton XL2 gold testers are equipped with proprietary Thermo Scientific AuDIT gold-plating detection technology. Several independent, complementary methods in the AuDIT (Au/gold Detection & Identification Technology) software work in tandem to alert you to the probability that an item is plated, regardless of the gold concentration of the plated surface layer. AuDIT technology works for vermeil (gold-plated silver), as well as gold-plated copper, steel, tungsten and any other non-gold substrate."

This is not a rare feature for XRF's used in the bullion industry, it is the bog standard one in fact, even cheaper ones will detect plated material.

I feel the need to warn everybody in this thread to beware of who you think you're talking too. There's no evidence any of these people being who they say they are. Months ago lists on miners were put together as good investment candidates. Recently, these are all new names popping up.

>>23165645
depends on the thickness of the plate and what was used to adhere the plate. Thin plate or plate adhered to chrome or copper is going to show.

but we're not talking about plate. We're talking about fill.

>>23165669
pan man and floor stacker are the most commonly spoofed tripfags too.

People have even been caught trying to pass off others stacks as their own to gain "cred"

>>23165706
>doesn't know what a tripfag is
>doesn't know how xrf works
figures

>>23165712
Yah, he's a dumb sack of fuck, isn't he?

If your ever concerned about me, ask me to post nuggets. I have my specific nugs that i ve had for a while and have posted before. However I will probably be posting a lot less now that its the off season, unless people want me to tell them where to pan again.

>>23165753
I don't think he noticed he was talking to a fake Pan Man warning people about fake users, but whatever

irony

>>23165774
Based and nuggetpilled. Panman ain't afraid of no bullshit artists!

>>23165671
the word "plated" has been used multiple times in our back and forth, now you change the goal posts to "filled"?

Even with filled, it will be detected as not being solid gold, the machine will pick this up and I have seen it many times. Outside of extremely large bars of gold filled with chocolate you are good to go. For large chocolate filled bars, SG + XRF will do the job reliably.

>>23165774
yeah thats why I called out >>23165669

They seem to range from just dumb FUD'ers to people who may in fact have malicious intent to mislead people which is too bad.

You and floor stacker get faked all the time, and its not hard to tell if you know the mannerisms.

I love it when I catch you in K and you forget your name is there, always gives me a smile.

>>23165857
it doesn't actually detect plate or fill, it detects the elements used to attach the plate, and only if they're in the plate.

so if I know that mercury and chrome are common in plate, and I detect trace amounts of mercury or chrome I might detect plate. Not because xrf reads below the surface, but because signs of plating are present at the surface.

>>23165857
>it will be detected as not being solid gold, the machine will pick this up and I have seen it many times
complete bullshit

>>23165887
a fuck how often do i do that?? I am phone posting often and I didnt realize I still have the name on. I only intentionally do that on /can gen/ as I have friends who post on there regularly.

>>23165782
First thing I did was mention its the most spoofed tripfag and all you can do is pat yourself on the back for your 4chan lingo mastery because I use namefag/tripfag interchangeably. Pan man already had replied in the thread under a diff ID.

Meanwhile, with zero proof, you claim to be a multimillionaire mining investing guru/owner/miner.

post some proofs, or a stack at least.

>>23165896
well you may want to sue the manufacturers who make these claims.

Plenty of videos for any one to google of plated items being identified by these devices.

OH NO WAIT! someone could have
FAKED
all the videos too!

AM I A FAKE?!?!?

>>23165923
not thaaaaat often, but its always on cangen so you probably meant to do it.

Remember that guy who was saying slv is a risk less asset? Fucking Jews

>>23165930
>post some proofs, or a stack at least.
fair enough
notice the word "mine" on this document. I can post the company letterhead but Id rather not. How much do you make in a year? I've had 30 years of this and more.
>>23165950
I already said, it can detect plate by detecting the elements used to plate. It can't detect fill because it only reads the surface.

>AM I A FAKE?!?!?
you're real but you can't read or learn

>>23165970
hay those nugs reminded me of something. pic related are placer copper nuggets from the skeena river just past Kitsgokla BC. No ones ever been able to trace where they came from, the rock found in them is not local to the region. Probably dumped from somewhere else by glaciation.

>>23165782
Yes i am the real panman.

>>23166049
Are you in the states? I cant remember if most mining claims down there have to post assessment work each year like we do up here, I know Alaska did that for a while but I havent looked at US claim regs or info since this spring.

>>23166093
we have assessment but we usually do improvement in lieu of money

>>23166113
yep thats the same here, file assessment work or pay a fee equal to the work required. I am glad all claims lapsing is frozen this year, our government website to file has been busted all year.

>>23166049
>you're real but you can't read or learn

>>23166155
covid has been a blessing for miners so far. We need more stimulus in the states but we'll probably get that before the election

anyone baking a new thread? got some goodies to share

>>23166212
No. Share right now so only like 2 guys reply and you get mad

>>23166191
the government here stopped all placer claims from lapsing, but not hard rock properties. A couple juniors did not realize this and had their lands lapse without them knowing. Pacific Booker Minerals was one of the casualties from this. We might get an extra year of claim protection too this spring if covid doesn't let up by then.

>>23166227
>this thread in ~5 minutes

>>23166055
Mine were bought, so I cant say where they originate, guy I bought them off got em in trade, all he knew was somewhere in BC. But yeah same coppery colour.

>>23166049
so ten years ago you made 180k, according to a completely fake-able invoice of some sort that in no way ties itself to you with no hand or time stamp.

But I believe you entirely because your piss poor, old ass boomer who likely was born into the family trade, attitude of over importance is pervasive in your posts. Even up to breaking out the "my financial dick is big, is yours even that big" play.

You should have over a hundred million in the bank if you made that kind of coin coupled with your self proclaimed expertise in investing. I suspect this not to be the case however.

>>23166246
I remember you telling about the PBM fuckup, that was hilarious! I'm glad you got a free year though, we needed it

>>23166311
I'm not worth a hundred million, but I can provide you better proofs later if you like

new bread
>>23166366

>>23166366

>>23166366

>>23166352
naw I believe you. I just dont understand why you expect me to believe some anon about XRF over manufacturers, my own experience, and so on.

Especially since earlier in the thread you warn people against taking some random guy onlines advice RE stonks.

I mean I get it because its common in boomers to not have that sort of self awareness, but its just incorrect of you to state that XRF + specific gravity are not effective enough methods of detecting fakes.

>>23166397
SG is fine.
so is xrf for alloys or very bad plate

but the anon posted drill and fill, and xrf won't detect that