/biz/ - Business & Finance

Wagies are pathetic

In the end hIkikomoris seem to be the most normal ones.

>>23051262
Normal means common not reasonable

Opening the Wano borders was a mistake

>>23051164
Because their culture values hard work and common decency, unlike "fuck you got mine" burgerland

Be a good bug and work yourself to complete exhaustion.

they are larping, right. it's some shit status symbol thing. they aren't actually sleeping

>>23051536
>he doesnt know how hard these insect people are worked
lol

Are they actually working though? Never experienced Japan but in other Asian countries people seem to pride themselves in spending long periods of time at their desks but not actually doing anything during that time.

>>23051164
every country is full of idiots, they are just conditioned in different ways

it is what happens when you listen to others and when you believe

>>23051564
why not just go home like a normal person? it would be a lot more efficient since you could actually rest

>>23051658
They're so exhausted from work that they literally can't stay awake long enough to get home and they fall asleep in transit

sounds based t b h

>>23051589
No, they aren't really more productive, they just spend huge amount of time at work.
Part of it is that you cannot go home before the boss does, or before whoever is in charge says "okay guys, job well done, now we can go home".
If you're in some white collar job, chances are that person is some man in his 50s who didn't have a meaningful conversation with his wife and children in the last 10 years. He'll keep everyone at the office past 5, even just sitting in his office, browsing the internet or relaxing, basically doing in the office what he should be doing at home.
Meanwhile, employees are sitting there wasting time too. If you stand up and say "Okay boss, I'll go home now, see ya tommorow", he'll either be pissed or you'll start having the reputation of a bad worker, someone with no dedication, etc.
He can also decide everyone needs to go drinking, for team building and shit. Again, if you don't go, you're the weird one, people start being distant with you, and eventually you're kicked from the job.

I know this american guy who teaches english in some japan elementary school, and one time there was this kid who slightly hurt its knee at recess. The principal and the whole teacher staff had to stay in a meeting until 8 pm, to discuss and braindstorm solutions to avoid this happening again.

>>23051164
>working hard for my boss
You wouldn't understand because you've never been apart of an ethnostate. Their boss is one of them. One of their people. They are all apart of tribe. So, working hard is working hard for the tribe. Them working hard benefits all of them. Unlike in Europe or America, where your boss is some jew who doesn't care about you and has no relation to you. If you live in Europe of America, go work for a small business run by a white guy (assuming you're white) and you will see the difference. You are treated with respect and cared for. You become apart of his family if you're not some weirdo. Just like in Japan, they are one large family. And they recognize this.

>>23051164
death before dishonor

>>23051840
So what you’re saying is fascism only works for gooks

>>23051840
>>23051856
No fucking gook thinks like this retard. the common culture is a given and taken for granted, but people don’t believe that retarded shit

t. lives in an ethnostate

>>23051840
Yeah, I think this sentiment was true until the bubble era, and now, they're getting the worst of both worlds, the expectation of dedication without benefits of the tribe.

>>23051825
This is it.

My work is like this. The ceo hates wfh even though we are a software company. Even with the pandemic they try to get everyone back as fast as possible even though it doesn't actually affect devs.

They would rather you sit at your desk and appear to work, rather than work at home. Even if you brought your laptop home each day and work 55 hour weeks. If you are 20 minutes late, the rage of God comes down on you.

Luckily I'm still work from home. I need to start reviewing Java so I dont get stuck in this legacy business software

>>23051164
>Commuter trains

I'll never understand how people do this. I obsessively look at my phone every 5 seconds to make sure I don't miss my stop

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>>23051840
shut the fuck up you dumb weeb

>>23051164
It’s not a bad trait to be a hard worker. The problem is they’ve been subverted to work for the profit of Jews while believing they are working for the betterment of their people.

Whites have a similar problem in the west. We are the ones that provide so much value and all that value goes to is enriching jews and feeding their subhuman pets.

>>23051840
>ARTHUR WE NEED TO MAKE A WHITE ETHNOSTATE

>>23051840
Wanting work to be your family..

>>23051825
Yeah it's all for show. Pretty sure the US is in top 5 efficient production per hour worked, much higher than Asian countries.

My small company boomed from people buying much more online this year because of quarantine. I'm getting a 10% salary bonus because I worked in medication manufacturing, QC lab analysis, and order picking to meet demand. 60 hours average with not a single minute of down time.

It feels good, and there is no pretense. Someone always says let's get the fuck outa here at the end of the day. We go drinking sometimes too, but not because we have to like the Japanese.

>>23052160

>>23052288
Japan has democracy, but it's like they don't even need it.
>The LDP has almost continuously been in power since its foundation in 1955—a period called the 1955 System—with the exception of a period between 1993 and 1994, and again from 2009 to 2012

>>23052438
And the rich there are rich and the working class passes out in public due to exhaustion. Really makes you think

>>23051164
This is way too dramatic. It's socially acceptable to die in public as it means you overworked to death. But sleeping in public just looks like you are homeless. Plenty of office workers get laid off and end up sleeping on the street in the west.

>>23051333
fuck niggas get dat paper know i'm sayin.

without jews, you wouldnt have any infrastructure to thrive on, look at the south, midwest, appalchia for the outcome of white majorirty, sans jew influence. Americ is nothing without its urban centers. Youll still be digging cole and performing and ringling brothers circus part time

>>23052462
japan has much higher median wealth than usa, like 5x more in dollar terms. infrastructure, health care, pensions, and everything is clearly one notch higher makes most parts of usa seem 3rd world

>>23052622
>espouses seemingly complex argument
>misspells coal
Niggers everyone

>>23052685
the jew is the best thing you have going for yourself, you would fracture into a thousand different pieces without their hands at the helm. Youre just human capital and with colonialzation being mostly economic now, youre just as expandable as the rest, so your privilges has diminished being a the lackey to the little hat

>>23052767
>colonialzation

You’ve already been outed as a nigger once, quit while you’re ahead

>>23052767

>>23052660
Also has more than twice as much national debt to GDP. Cost of living is outrageously high.

>>23051164
Sounds like a form of virtue signalling desu. I wonder if the mask thing was done for the same reason before the meme virus started.

The correct take is: both whites and Japs are cucks, they only manifest it differently.
The reason they are cucks is the same as the reason whites are cucks, they sent all their best men to die for their dumbfuck Emperor in WW2.
Life comes at you fucking fast.

>>23051262
yep. most natural response is to be hikko.

>>23051164
>According to a government survey published in 2016, 42% of men and 44.2% of women - almost half of Japan's millennial singles aged between 18 to 34 - are virgins.
Just imagine striding in there as some Euro/American Gajin hired to manage the Japanese branche of your company, just fucking off at 5 and fucking a few crooked teeth slant eyes here and there while getting a full night's sleep. How will Japs ever recover?

>>23052811
>>23052811
nigger

>>23051164
If you did that ibln the US you'd wake up without your wallet, belt, watch, and shoes.

>>23051601
This. 90% of the population are unironically cattle, maybe more.

>>23051164
Nuclear war, anon.

>>23051840
This is all true. Working for a corporation is not based

>>23051262
this

>>23051658
they'll go to work sick too, and make everyone else sick.

>>23052622
>sans jew influence
jews run those places too. if you look at how the economy and financial system work you'll see all surpluses are constantly vacuumed up so workers can never benefit from them and have to work forever. there is plenty of wealth to go around, but they want to keep everyone poor for some reason. fear/resentment i guess.

>>23051262
Based. Neets will inherit the Earth.

>>23052767
the sad thing is you're not even a jew, as they are known for their language proficiency. not sure what your game is but you successfully wasted 5 minutes of my time so congratulations on that.

>>23054889
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>>23056062
I

>>23051840
This 1000x is why America sucks now. Most of the non white immigrants send the money they make home to their family's instead of investing it here. I also know a lot of immigrant families that will work there whole lives in the US, and then they will just go back to their home country, make no effort to get citizenship, and retire like a king. Its very counter productive.

>>23056175
>It's very counter productive

I beg to differ, goy!

>>23052660
They also love to fucking kill themselves don't they? Definitely because they're doing so great riiiiight?

>>23051840
This is not fucking true at all retard. Japs hate Japan you dumb nigger.

Japan will be one of the first few countries to completely automize.

>>23058053
atomize*

>>23051840
False. Chinese are super competitive against themselves and fuck eachother other. Not sure about Japs though.

>>23051840
>If you live in Europe of America, go work for a small business run by a white guy (assuming you're white) and you will see the difference
this is not true in the slightest and makes me think you have probably never worked a real job in your life

>>23051164
It’s sad but would you prefer entitled lazy niggers that don’t want to work and expect everything to be handed too them.

>>23057528
>>23057548
why so upset

>>23051750
this. lol people don't understand how hard the bug people work. and they don't understand that this "life style" is coming to america

>>23058097
*automatize
*automate
*automize

All correct.

>>23056175
>"MUH TAXES ARE BAD DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MUH MONEY"
Also:
>"HOW COME THE IMMIGRANTS WHO WORK HARD TAKE THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY WHEREVER THE FUCK THEY WANT"

>>23058218
That's been my experience, it's bullshit. I want to expand or make slight changes because it would increase profits. Either I get to credit or it gets shot down. Not like I'm trying to takeover or become a competitor, I'd just like to see it grow and get paid more. I really need to eventually strike out on my own and build something. I might not make any future employees a partner but if they know what they are talking about and have ideas for bringing in more money I'm all for it. It's just unfortunate how boomers have the bad combination of extreme entitlement and a kind of blindness to the market. Even when customers repeatedly complain or request for something they don't look at the pattern.

>>23051199
based

i don't know how accurate that site is...

My sign of hard work is sneaking out of the garage at 12 or so (I don't swipe), most days of the week... earning around 200k$

>>23059333
Trips confirm your suspicions, but stoner bitches are easy so ... I dunno

>>23051199

I nap in public all the time because I'm homeless

>>23051333

That's mostly boomers in burgerland.

>>23051840
I worked at a company where all my direct supervisors to the owner were white and all my coworkers except for some boomer SEA lady.

I didnt work extra hard because I liked them more. I worked extra hard because I was Second shift and got dumped on regularly and my SEA coworker didn't do shit, and often messed up when she did.

I feel like many in this thread would benefit from this:
https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/

>>23052660
They dont have nearly 40million niggers

>>23054544

Masks literally are a virtue signal and a way for high chair tyrants to bully you

>>23059333
Turns out, drug users tend to be degenerate fornicators. Wow.

>>23058668
You just put something he didn't say into his mouth

>>23051333

You can have those without having the absurd working hours and suck up culture in Japan.

>>23051658

Japs don't give a shit about efficiency.

>>23060262
Appearances matter more. It's a dead economy so it doesn't matter anyway, until the government implodes they will keep running at 0 or negative profits.

>>23051840

>wageslaving is okay if your boss is white

L E L
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>>23051333
>Nip detected

>>23051840
With posts like this I start to understand commies

>>23060663
with posts like this my resolution to take commie heads off just went 2x

You know that japanese culture isnt 1 dimensional? What do you think the hikkis are all about? The boso? Yakuza?
Younger generations in Japan arent about that shit. And many of the older generation arent either. Thats why bosozoku culture was so big.

>>23060677
Wasted dubs, eh

>>23051840
>tribe
cringe. remember that feudal japan was no more than 200 years ago. the people you consider a "tribe" now, well the two people sitting next to each other in the cubicle their families were probably slaughtering each other just a handful of generations prior.

>>23056175
You realize europeans only came to america so they could send money back home? LMAO!

>>23060538
Anon wont work for a hospital, because jews are on the board of directors.
But he'll gladly slave 12 hours a day in the middle of nowhere drilling oil or building railroads for his "white" slavemas-, I mean boss.
LMAO

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>>23051840
>go work for a small business run by a white guy (assuming you're white) and you will see the difference. You are treated with respect and cared for. You become apart of his family if you're not some weirdo.
in what alternate reality do you retards live in? nobody actually believes this, right?

>>23060973
Anon is one of those people who think his manufacturer world view he created from spending all day on 4chan is actually representative of whats outside.
Truth is in small business youll have employers who care more about their employees. Because they rely on their employees keep more business coming in etc.
Then again you also have small business owners who go through employees like its nothing and if you dont do free overtime or miss out of legally rightful benefits because "muh small business I cant afford" youll just be kicked the the curb and replaced with a sub 80iq monkey.

>>23056175
They exchange value for money. Then they do whatever they want with the money. That's not wrong. You already got value from the money that you gave them. Fuck off.

>>23051840
Disgusting protestant slime. Work is literally a sin.

>>23051164
He is submissive like a good samurai.

>>23051840
jesus you pol tards need to shut the fuck up

>>23056175
yes and we should also increase taxes to 60%

>>23051840
>working hard is fine as long as you're respected
While I get the appeal to human nature, it is ultimately a beta mindset that let's others take advantage of you so long as they give back to you. You're literally advocating becoming a beta male.

thats how you become a prosperous and respected nation. I bet most salarymen are happier than /biz/ people because they have a sense of purpose and rigid systems in place to socialise i.e. drinking with colleagues after work habitually (mandatory almost)

Meanwhile lazy /biz/ low IQ low drive low success people just gamble on crypto in the hope of being lazy, uninspired and unsuccessful forever

>>23062372
well, if youre not intelligent enough or smart enough to game the system and transcend being employed then you shouldnt bite the hand that feeds you. not everyone is deserving of being the 'winner'

>>23062448
> I bet most salarymen are happier than /biz/ people because they have a sense of purpose and rigid systems in place to socialise i.e. drinking with colleagues after work habitually (mandatory almost)
That's what I used to believe too, but everything must sound so fake. That also doesn't explain the suicide rates and the sexual misery most men are going through. I know sex and women are memes but the doujin industry wouldn't be this successful without problem deeply rooted in their social lives.

>>23062546
>That also doesn't explain the suicide rates and the sexual misery most men are going through

The same is happening in the west right now. thats caused by isolation and overuse of technology. You could work 3 days a week and people will just be sat inside doing fuck all with the remainder of their time isolated

it's all fake

enforced social conformity disguised as productivity

>>23051840
>When you're white, but get invited to the minority bro's cook out.

>>23051262
>WHAT?! YOU WANT TO SLEEP IN THE COMFORT OF YOUR OWN BED AND NOT THE PISSY SPIT STAINED CONCRETE GOY?!

>>23062568
At least it's better than working.

Working yourself to death and paying taxes wouldn't bother me as much if I knew my company would never fire me and my taxes weren't going to immigrants and single mothers so I can see why the Japs don't care.

>>23058097
gottem.

I mean these are things that happen at most American companies, maybe just not AS drastic. But they happen.
When's the last time you saw a company post record profits that didn't come as the result of slashing 50k jobs?

>>23063018
Amazon.
The key to success in every great large business is the same as the key to success in every large country: a slave class.

>>23063066
I don't know about that, America got to where it did simply by being in the right place at the right time. That's why I'm resentful of China. China is going to be the next empire, not necessarily because they deserve it but because America simply gave them all the tools and factories and they are resource rich and America is a kakistocracy. But because they abuse their workers like no one else every country in the world is going to look at them and decide they need to roll back all worker protections.

>>23063124
America always had a slave class whether domestic or abroad. China has just come into a slave class of their own via social stratification and internment camps. Every strong nation has a slave class.m you just have to know where to look.