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Phoneposterfag wasn't kidding you fags really never bake edition

>Brokers:
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq (embed)

>Stock market words:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ (embed)

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp (embed)

>Live Bloomberg stream:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Free chart:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings:
https://fintel.io/

>Misc:
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com

>> No.23010658

HOW MUCH MONEY AMI LOSING MONDAY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I LOST 734 ON FRIDAY AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.23010687

WHY DID I FELL FOR INLATION MEME
WHY DID I FELL FOR FED CAN SAVE THE MARKET MEME

>> No.23010699

>>23010687
To be fair those are pretty good memes

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>GME 1/15/21 15c

>> No.23010732

Trump is feeling well and just tweeted that we need a stimulus 10 mins ago

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If the market tanks I'll be financially ruined... Why did I have to fall for the EV meme, SPAQ and SBE will tank so hard.

>> No.23010758

The virus just keeps on giving. Cheap stocks that is a once in a generation thing (DIS @ sub 90!). Quick profits due to rapid shats and rebounds. You can uh "hide" your profits and thanks to the virus claim to be a "poor" fuck and no one would thank twice cause the virus has upended a lot of shat. Free money from the govt (maybe another round on the way).

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>GME 1/15/21 25c

>> No.23010768

>>23010621
Yeah weekend /smg/ definitely has a shortage of bakers. Apparently some people here have lives on the weekend unlike me.

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> >GME 1/15/21 15c

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>GME 10/23/20 10c

>> No.23010799

Best way to lose all my money Monday morning?

>> No.23010803

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4377179-gamestop-cash-flow-bro

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>GME 10/23/20 15c

>> No.23010821

Thoughts on Square? Their Cash app seems to be a real money maker.

>> No.23010836

>>23010768
I have no life at all other than 4chan and my Chinese cartoons so I guess I'm weekend baker now
I need to start saving more images for OPs

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>GME 10/23/20 20c

>> No.23010856

Imagine caring this much about a meme stock.

>> No.23010862

Oh shit
My old boss just called me and left a message saying she has a few questions to ask
I was furloughed during March-May, and when we reopened I decided not to return, however I've been collecting unemployment since then

Why the fuck would she call now if I've been collecting unemployment for so long already. FUCK I knew I should have stopped claiming, this most previous claim was even gonna be my last one

>> No.23010868

Stimulus buttcheeks incoming

>> No.23010872

>>23010799
All in on SSSS

>> No.23010877

>>23010856
Sometimes our memes become more than just dreams tho...

>> No.23010878

Funny, takes maybe 1 day for a stock to fall 40% or 5%. Takes a few months before it rebounds back to the point before it fell... Now if some major thing leaks, hey watch out, it'll fly like crazy on the hype..

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Green monday

>> No.23010913

This is the lowest quality /smg/ I've ever seen.

>> No.23010923

>>23010878
stairs up elevator down innit?

>> No.23010924

>>23010901
TQQQ calls? 10/16/20 129c

>> No.23010932

>>23010913
You should check out the first 50 or so posts of the last one

>> No.23010935

>>23010913
some autist is obsessed with GME and spamming soibois

>> No.23010937

>>23010901
Good, pass the check bill already. I want another 2400 bucks damnit!! (Married). 4800 in free govt money woo with no blow back on next years taxes either..

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>Sometimes our memes become more than just dreams tho...

>> No.23010950

>>23010913
It’s just one faggot shitting up the thread

>> No.23010958

>>23010901
This was written by an intern

>> No.23010979

>>23010901
>Written by member of a national security team
>Trump on life support hanging on by a thread.

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>>23010913
>>23010932
>>23010950
Just install 4chan X and put "GME" whatever into the word filter. You can basically filter crypto, gme and whatever shitcoin shills easily

>> No.23010992

>>23010901
Unfortunately not up to him unless he does an EO. Nancy and Chuckles keep putting poison pills in every congress proposal.

>> No.23011007

>>23010958
Interns write on iPhones, Trump does not, this was sent by Trump, this has been known for a long time.

>> No.23011021

>>23010982
Fuck you half the fun of this self-imposed hell is reading the shitposts with no worthwhile info in them

>> No.23011042
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>>23010913
n-no u

>> No.23011052

>>23010932
You took the OP image from a 1pbtid.
1 post in a 10 hour thread.
Last weekend /smg/ outed the GME fudders as paid shills using CTR tactics and no arguments. If you don't see the difference between DD and shilling, whether it's short or long, you need to lurk more.

>> No.23011058

>>23010992
He might
“We are at war with an unseen enemy”
Uses executive wartime power to go ahead with Trumpbux
Instant re-election

>> No.23011066

>> 23010830
You fucking retard ACOE never denied the permit in August. They requested a comprehensive mitigation plan which is a normal part of the permitting process. Trump has not spoken out against the mine, he said he was going to keep politics out of pebble and has historically been pro-mine. The record of decision to issue the federal permit is due at the end of the year and after that it’s a state issue and the democrats IF they win would have no legal power to prevent the mine. FYI you can make more off of NAK then whatever the CCP is paying you.

>> No.23011067

Daily reminder that stimulus won't pass until after the election.
>>23010752
Why not buy TSLA?

>> No.23011072
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>Last weekend /smg/ outed the GME fudders as paid shills using CTR tactics and no arguments. If you don't see the difference between DD and shilling, whether it's short or long, you need to lurk more.

>> No.23011077

>>23011052
Id say about half are paid and half are jealous of coom cat

>> No.23011078

>>23011052
Read what I changed the filename to, I'm holding GME too I just thought it was funny calm your tits

>> No.23011084

>>23011066
Fuck I did it wrong because I’m retarded. Meant to respond to
>>23010830

>> No.23011086

>>23010982
I got 4chanX but nah that takes the fun away. The only one I filter in these threads is that kpop spammer because it is literally fucking brain dead

>> No.23011098

>>23010992
Trump should insist on money for anti-pedophile campaigns and awareness of the pedophile threat in the stimulus bill and see what Nancy and Chuck have to say about it.

>> No.23011100

>>23010982
Then I would block actual DD like this helpful anon >>23010803
He's not shitting up the thread, only underwater shorts with no arguments are doing that.
70 million short interest x minimum $2 underwater at a $9 share price. None of the longs are underwater $140 million with unlimited downside. Fucking think.

>> No.23011109

>>23011086
Fuck you
Kpop Anon is our pet retard and you need to do your part to mold him into the ultimate being

>> No.23011119

>>23011052
>he holds GME
Enjoy bankruptcy.
>if I say random buzzwords enough times, I WIIIIIIN
The absolute state of GMErs.

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>>23011021
If I want to witness some "self-imposed hell" I'll visit /r9k/ or look into the mirror
>>23011067
I don't see any way Tesla is worth 400 billion dollars. They're not even the leader in self-driving cars and only have EVs/batteries going for them if there's isn't something that I'v missed.
>>23011100
I see his post just fine, "GME" doesn't block actual news articles but shitposts

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>>23011078

>> No.23011136
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>HYLN
>anything EV
>SPAC mergers with EV companies

>> No.23011138

>>23011058
The war on germs

>> No.23011147

>>23011125
Because it happened to say Gamestop in the link.
Holy shit everyone here is retarded. Is the usual weekend crowd sleeping in after the Friday premarket shitshow?

>> No.23011162

>>23011147
Anon... I filtered "GME", not "gamestop".

>> No.23011164

>>23010982
>not just having a mental filter
Weak minded faggot

>> No.23011171

Imo your best options for insane returns are NAK and GME

I’d ride GME until November then go full NAK
If both fail then just kys
Win win

>> No.23011177

>>23011109
I didn’t at first, but there is no helping that retard and I simply can’t stand the reddit spacing with his posts

>> No.23011179
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What are people doing on Monday? I loaded up on UVXY and DRIP yesterday. Futures are looking grim at the moment but we'll see

>>23010821
I was holding SQ last week, got out with like 1% gains before everything shit the bed. Overall pretty decent play but I'd wait for it to drop a bit more before buying.

>> No.23011201

>>23011171
Great, sounds like a fucking stupid idea.

>> No.23011221

>>23010830
>Trump has spoken against the mine.
Literally no he hasn't. His most recent tweet about the subject said that he would keep the subject matter apolitical.
We tried to make you rich, Anon. Remember not to cry when you end up having to buy in at the top.

>> No.23011228

>>23011136
You sound like you need some GME, bro.

>> No.23011248

>>23011171
lmfao

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>67 KB PNG
>>GME 10/23/20 15c

>> No.23011253

>>23011077
i'm pretty sure it's just jealous idiots who are sore they missed out on a low-risk +50% in less than a month
no one would pay shills to shill in /smg/, that's delusional

>> No.23011262

>>23010715
>>23010764
>>23010777
>>23010792
P O O
O
O

L O O
O
O

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST POO IN THE LOO???

>> No.23011272

>>23011179
>Futures are looking grim at the moment
wat

>> No.23011286

>>23011179
>futures looking grim
Name one tim futures have ever been correct

>> No.23011290

shan't be giving attention to a tripfagging schizo

>> No.23011322
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>/SMG/- Stock market general

>> No.23011345

>>23011162
>put "GME" into the word filter
>>But then I would block actual DD
>I see his post just fine, "GME" doesn't block actual news articles
>>That news article happened to say Gamestop in the link but others might say GME
>It's ok because I only filtered "GME", not "gamestop"
You are beyond help :^)

>> No.23011364

>>23010862
>My old boss just called me and left a message saying she has a few questions to ask
It's fascinating that they didn't say what questions they wanted to ask... And this wasn't done over email, so your boss wanted to minimize a record existing of the conversation.
Your boss doesn't want to contribute to any shit.

>>23011021
>Fuck you half the fun of this self-imposed hell is reading the shitposts with no worthwhile info in them
This.
If all I cared for was straight DD contributed by biased users, then I'd go to seekingalpha or that shit that big5guy posted

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>>23011322
No anon, we're actually right here

>> No.23011441

>>23011162
>>23011345
why do you fags even want to filter GME like relax lmao

>> No.23011443

Is the war in the Caucasus going to have any effect on the market, or does the majority of people not even know Armenia and Azerbaijan exist?

>> No.23011452

>>23010621
Hey /smg/. I am starting to invest in US recently. What do you guys think of creating a diversified portfolio of leveraged ETFs for the long term? I am thinking of:
25% QLD (2x QQQ)
25% UPRO (3x SP500)
25% TMF (3x 20yr treasuries)
25% UGL (2x gold)

The idea is that during big drawdowns in the market I can sell some TMF and UGL to buy more QLD/UPRO.

I prefer QLD over TQQQ as the volatility of Nasdaq and thus the decay is higher than SP500, which makes the return adjusted to the risk better.

Is this strategy too degenerate for long term? Maybe I will add bond or a reit ETF. If anyone has recommendations I would be glad.

>> No.23011469

>>23011443
Nothing's going to happen
Nothing ever happens

>> No.23011533

>>23011253
You weren't here last Friday. There is a difference between trolls, autists, and shills that becomes obvious after years of 4chan.

>> No.23011546

The senate is going to pass the bill, Trump is going to recover exceptionally and then he's going to pass the bill to win the presidential reelection. I'm not even into politics but this seems the likely scenario

>> No.23011564

>>23011546
I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if he never had it in the first place.

>> No.23011580

>>23011452
Buy gme you fucking retard

>> No.23011603

ABEO - Stock recently got a buy rating from annalist and a price target of 6 (median). Sept 18th. Few days later board members and ceo took a walk. Company put out a release stating it was looking for a buyer. Big institution owns over 15% of the stock. It's not hard to read between the lines; some company quoted a buyout offer. the board members and ceo turned it down. The institution got them shat canned cause they want the company sold. Soon the institution will have "yes men" placed on the board. Then the company will be sold. There's no poison pill in the company bylaws either.

>> No.23011622

>>23011564
Even if he does or doesn't have it he will use it as a way to boost his chances by "fighting off" the disease and executive order the stimulus OR he's going to use the disease as a way to downplay his loss. Either way its a win win but yhe market will tank if he loses because no stimulus

>> No.23011625
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>>23011564
Any one of these people could get a $20 million dollar book deal instantly if that was the case, and would be lauded as a hero whistleblower in medical and historical works for a hundred years.

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>NAK
>CLF
>chinkyflu kills the fatass president president, stimulus never happens and “American industry becoming great again” is revealed to be the bullshit meme dream to dump bags on idiots

>> No.23011647

>>23011452
Hyperleveraged ETFs make me nervous but we live in a clown market where green line always go up so that's probably one of the better portfolios you'll see posted here honestly.

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What do I do with this?
This single order has 2.8 million volume and is half of the daily volume of 5.6 million while volume is 1 million on a normal day. It didn't move the price nearly as much as it should have. Since the pr drop it's also barcoding as fuck.

>>23011603
https://bespc.com/abeona-therapeutics/
I don't know if I buy that story. Last time they issued SA PR they used the pump for a offering.

>> No.23011681

>>23011643
>Implying the current permitting time frame even allows for Democrat interference
We tried to make you rich, Anon. We tried.

>> No.23011707

>>23011546
There is absolutely 0% chance the Senate will pass the bill in it's current form
>releases illegal immigrants from detention centers
>pays out stimulus checks to illegal immigrants
>makes voting ID illegal nationwide
>creates new requirements for States for the election
The House has already been released, and was already recalled once for the Post Office funding debacle (all the Representatives are super pissed that they were emergency dragged back to Washington for post office funding instead of stimulus talks) so it's super unlikely they'll be emergency called back a second time
In other words, even if the Senate miraculously passed a 1.6 trillion stimulus bill, the House is very unlikely to be called back.
At this point, Pelosi doesn't want stimulus to pass. There is no other reason to include all of these poison pills in the bill. She doesn't want the bill to pass. She wants it to fail, and be able to say "Oh, but the Democrats were able to pass a bill, it's the Republican's fault" to boost Democrat chances in the Fall election

>> No.23011710

>>23011681
When should I get in NAK realistically
I won’t start seeing GME gains until later this month so I’m nervous

>> No.23011723

>>23011452
>TMF
No. Bonds are shit which is part of why assets are being valued with 5+ years of earnings factored in
>UPRO
Nasdaq carries S&P don't bother with S&P you're just adding all the losers on
>UGL
gold is bullish but the paper stuff is sketchy, be advised but like I said gold is bullish AF right now.
Volatility =/ risk and leveraged decay is a meme on something like QQQ, on commodities it's a more serious concern to consider. Just go for TQQQ or FNGU. Also, buy TSLA and Bitcoin.

>> No.23011734

>>23011707
Why don't you Americans just "give" everyone IDs for free. Just ship em when someone turns 18.

>> No.23011764

>>23011707
Democrats are fucking retarded kikes who care more about illegals than Americans which is why they would rather guarantee no one gets shit than let Americans get anything by cramming bullshit in every time. Holy fuck. Just pump these fucking bags already.

>> No.23011767

>>23011734
das racis.

>> No.23011774

>>23011734
How would undocumented Mexicans get IDs then racist?

>> No.23011777

>>23011734
you need to have your proofs of citizenship and be there to take proper photo ID.

>> No.23011778

>>23011734
Why that’s the mark of the beast! You’ll go to hell

>> No.23011779

>>23011710
At the latest get into NAK before middle of November. Late November is the 90 day mark from after the ACOE requested the CMP and when it is due. ROD will be weeks if not days afterwards with the new Trump EO. Funnily enough the current timeframe allows for gains on GME with the console sales and then immediately dumping into NAK right before the ROD is due

>> No.23011794

>>23011777
Proper is such a faggy white term.

>> No.23011806

>>23011777
Free market will fix it, just install shitboxes with cameras into malls.

>> No.23011817
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I'm voting for Trump.

>> No.23011837

>>23011723
>Bonds
Not the anon you were talking to but I'd like your feedback on how the hell bonds work. I am also looking at TMF, but not until TLT comes down from its current plateau. It seems like TLT always creeps upwards with inflation, but it rockets up into a plateau when stocks crash and QE starts, and falls back down when QE ends.
I want to buy TMF for risk parity but I plan to wait until TLT comes down from the plateau like in 2009, 2013, and 2016. Until then I plan to keep the risk parity portion in cash or UUP.
Am I stupid? Any help is appreciated.

>> No.23011847

>>23011723
Any stock that is "gold" is paper gold, is that correct? Or is there stock that actually follows the price of gold?

>> No.23011854

>>23011806
Also, just use strong identification online. Like login with your bank account to order the ID

>> No.23011886

>>23011603
I saw it be called out weeks ago but it's only been dumping since then so I'm shook out of this. Maybe I'll scalp something the day something more serious comes along.

>> No.23011893

>>23011794
Yet genetic inferiors flock to our proper nations, due to their inability to do anything properly that matters.
>>23011806
>ID Corp gets boycotted for not giving illegals ID's so they bypass ID laws and print them out, no one does anything, America becomes Beanerland

>> No.23011899

>>23011837
bonds are shit. they made sense in the 1950s

>> No.23011943

Draft kings Puts anon here.

WHAT THE FUCK DID I TELL YOU NOGGAHS?

Cam Newton got it now. Cheifs/pats postponed. More titans players got it.

You need to understand something.

October is the WORST month for catching viruses. These viruses are living organisms that will find any warm host to survive the harsh weather.

This month, you're going to see cases SPIKE big. Covid-19 is going to get aid from the Influenza virus as players:

1) Sweat
2) Spit
3) Breathe heavily
4) Launch snot rockets
5) Sneeze
6) Coof

All in dome stadiums and lockerroms.

This is just the beginning. Worst has yet to come.

Drafting PUTS starting to sound real nice.

0 players to start season. I think we're up to 20+ now....that was from 8 last week. 300%+ increase.

>> No.23011976

>>23011899
I said it's a portion for risk parity alone.
The question is if I understand correctly how their value changes related to recessions and QE.

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>>23011564

>> No.23012041
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God please let the retarded obese white middle american cornhuskers buy into the Lordstown EV pickup hype soon. Trump/Pence endorsed them a week ago and im not seeing DPHC (the spac holding Lordstown Motors) moving enough.
Where is the obese white american retard pump we were all expecting when Trump endorsed them

>> No.23012059

Can you imagine the fools ego sold off on Friday?
If there's a black swan event I'm fucking buying up EVERYTHING

>> No.23012066

>>23011899
What do you mean anon??
Why wouldn't you want to lend me $991 for me to give you $1,000 in 10 years??
It's not like inflation would make that $1,000 worth $817.. it's not like you'd lose $174 or roughly 17% by lending it to me..
It's not like inflation is about to be allowed to run past 2% for the next 2 years minimum anyway

So how bout that $991 anon? I'll pay you back in 10 years

>> No.23012071

>>23012041
Welcome to SPAC world. Every SPAC lost it's ass the past 2 weeks. When markets are violtile, they're the first to be trimmed.

>> No.23012075

>>23011847
Not exactly. I'm pretty sure Sprot stock is redeemable for physical shares if you have X amount. Otherwise yeah you're just betting on the price of the commodity.
Stay away from silver that shit is Jewed as fuck. >>23011837
Bonds are just federally backed notes that say they will give you X value on Y date. The rates are trash right now. Bonds are seen as no risk. If bond rates are good, say 6% it means you are getting a guaranteed 6% on your money, for low risk defensive investors this is a great opportunity. "Why risk all your money in the stock market when you can just have comfy bonds?", the say
Stocks will drop if bond rates go up because of that.
Bonds don't go up because stocks go down, stocks go down when bonds go up.
>>23011943
If we get locked down again I'm going to fucking snap.

>> No.23012097

>>23011710
Yeah what >>23011779 said. I missed the GME gainz period so personally I'm just selling puts to get an even better buyin price on NAK, on the off chance the USACE tells NAK to redo their proposal again. They're not going to be flat out denied, that's not how permitting agencies work. Worst comes to worst, the stock will tank like it did during August to around 60c while investor normies freak out.

The real problem is that if the existing proposal is denied, that opens up the time line to Democrat interference. It's not the fact that the permit to the existing proposal is denied that you'll have to worry about, it's Democrats trying to shut down American industry, which they will absolutely have the opportunity to do if Biden gets elected AND the existing proposal's permit is denied, because it'll take NAK at least another month or so to get another proposal put together to try to address the issues the USACE will bring up in the event of a denial.

>> No.23012122

>>23011533
bro how can you assume i wasn't here last friday when it was the fight to $10

>> No.23012128

>>23012075
Not familiar with bonds; however can't you buy up riskier bonds like whatever Carnival (CCL) issues or American Airlines (AAL)? I imagine they offer great rates and coupons.

>> No.23012127

>>23012071
On the flip side, don't you think SPACs, particularly EV SPACs, gain pretty absurd momentum during market pumps? I'm thinking if the stimulus is passed by the end of the month the EV SPACs holding ChargePoint, XL Fleet, and Lordstown Motors all get pumped as hard in bull markets as they get trimmed in bear markets

>> No.23012146

>>23012122
I enjoyed the Goku memes

>> No.23012184

>>23012127
October is Bloody October.

If the stimulus doesn't get passed THIS WEEK...congressional calendar shows congress taking off until MID-NOVEMBER.

You're better off staying away from SPAC'S unless your fully confident stimulus is going to pass this week. Could get ugly....but present nice opportunities after our bloody noses this month and elections.

>> No.23012235

>>23012127
I don't want to crush your spirit anon, but it's *very* unlikely the stimulus will be passed before the elections. We're already on fumes on hopes for it passing. It would require the House to be emergency recalled a 2nd time, and the Senate to reconvene (https://seekingalpha.com/news/3619639-senate-to-halt-work-until-oct-19-after-positive-tests))
both things in combination make it hard to get done - with all the poison pills in >>23011707
the Senate will not pass the 2.2T stimulus & will instead focus efforts on confirming Barrett
"Hearings for Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett will continue ass planned Oct. 12, McConnell says."
If you're holding shares, you should decide between diamond-hands holding, or selling and rebuying later (but requires you to watch & follow the markets closely to not miss re-entry)

>> No.23012249

>>23010821
Buy anything Dorsey is CEO of.

Shift4 is a good play too, I see their systems popping up all over the place now especially at non-chain resorts/hotels

>> No.23012254

>>23011779
>>23012097
GME until November
Then NAK pump
Then renewables if Biden Wins, Recovery if Trump wins

That’s my plan.

>> No.23012261

>>23012128

Only if you managed to get them as new issues. If you're buying from secondary market, you will also be paying the coupons claimed and appreciated present value, on top of the interest rate difference. If the bond is unsecured and the company defaults, you will be the second in line after the company pays out secured bondholders first or your obligation gets reduced to scrap paper. Lastly, high interest bonds will almost always be issued as callable, so the company can buy back at any time the bond in case the fed tanks interest rates again.

>> No.23012329

>>23012235
Agreed.

Pelosi is trying to put RepubliCHADS between a rock and a hard place.

Either:

1)Pass my bill- Which makes me look good for sticking up for the average person against Republicans

2)Not pass my bill- It's all Republican's fault!!!

Political tactics....in the middle of a depression.

>> No.23012338

>sold my 3x bear etfs at the top Friday
>bought 3x bull etfs at the bottom Friday
We're going to the moon next week

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How would the stimulus failing to pass affect NAK? It seems to be steadily tracking up in the pre market I was hoping to go balls deep under $1 but I'm thinking about just saying fuck it and going in at open on Monday.

>> No.23012359

>>23011723
Thanks for the feedback. What about REITs to balance the leveraged ETFs ? The problem of going 100% into TQQQ is the chances that it will go down 50% again. I wanna have some "cash" if that happens (in the form of gold or other stuff to at least have some returns).

of course going all-in on TQQQ was the best choice the last 10 years. But nothing guarantees that it will remain this way the next years. Maybe USA will become the next japan (crab market) for the next decade.

>> No.23012391

>>23012075
I don't understand. Why do TLT and TMF go up during recessions and QE then? Should I expect TMF to tank when the corona recession and uncertainty period ends?
>>23012122
I meant Friday after hours, my bad. I can assume because if you weren't there or you would remember the 'shill or troll' argument.

>> No.23012402

>>23012261
Doesn't seem worthwhile then. Was thinking about it for a bit. Carnival offered enticing coupons and interest rates on their bonds. But decided against it as stock market was taking off in March/April.

>> No.23012444

>>23012235
I know this is a right-leaning website and people have Trump's cum in their mouths most of the time (can't blame ya, capital gains tax cuts), but the The HEROES Act would allow immigrants who are in the country illegally AND who pay taxes to receive federal relief funds during the coronavirus pandemic, not just any unauthorized immigrants. You need an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) to receive that check.
Not only that, getting rid of state requirements to access voting is wholly good thing? Why would you be against policies that try to combat voter suppression?
Guaranteed this chucklefuck gives some shitty FoxNews excuse that handwaves away gerrymandering, voter suppression, and other demonstrable instances of real tyranny and things giving MUH ILLEGALS stimulus checks is the real issue.

>> No.23012454

>>23012391
Bonds are safe assets for hedge funds. If things get crazy, they flee to them for extra $$$. That's why some anons recommend the:

50% TQQQ
50% TMF

Combo to take advantage of the market on whatever direction it goes.

>> No.23012488

>>23012444
I am not arguing that I agree one way or another with the provisions of the bill, I am just stating that the Senate will not agree & will not vote for it

>> No.23012504

>>23011364
An old co-worker said that they're hiring people now for the holiday season, so she said maybe they're asking about rehiring? Idk, it just seems gay to finally contact me after months of me collecting

>> No.23012517

>>23012444
Only US citizens should vote
Also those unable to even have a form of ID have no business determining the future

>> No.23012558

>>23012444
I'm right leaning, and I don't mind Mexicans. My best ever sex episode came from a Latino girl (have pics if interested). Long black hair, BEST ASS EVER, super nice attitude, was actually into sex....good memories.

Illegals are OK by my book, even illegal ones. Just pay taxes and stop taking welfare...unlike trailer trash and ghetto rats.

Either way, RepubliCHADS are not going to like the stimulus bill by house dUMBacrats....and it's not likely to pass Senate by next week....

BLOOD RED OCTOBER...just in time for Haloween.

>> No.23012560

Going to drop a few grand into TQQQ on Monday. My NEE position feels pretty safe still so I’ll be TQQQ, NEE, and SBE for the time being. Wish me luck

>> No.23012572

>>23012402

Issue with bonds is that you need a lot of cash on hand to even secure any worthwhile payout from the interest and coupons. Bond/pension funds have billions on hand and can access the best offerings and rates so something as low as 1.5-2% will yield them something worthwhile. Not to mention they have the law on their side when it comes to taxes, so less overhead but that's beside the point. As for carnival, I know they're issuing those notes just to float their short term obligations since cruises are megafucked this year, but you need to read up on the terms because just like stocks, there's no free lunch.

>> No.23012584

>>23012444
If you dont have ID you don't vote. Simple as.
Not needing ID is some 3rd world banana republic shit.
If you need ID to drive, buy smokes and booze, i can guarantee every nig and beaner has ID to vote, and fuck the illegals that don't.

>> No.23012651

>>23012488
That is fair, sometimes I surprised myself when I forget about how stupid this political paradigm these fucking children in Senate playing Team Red and Team Blue. They'll try to compare the stimulus the Dem's were blocking back in March to the stimulus right now but the stimulus proposed by Team Red was fucking comprehensively worse than the the Repbulicans are blocking which is proposed by Dems.
back in march the GOP's proposal had a lot of industry bailouts without strings (Dems wanted to avoid repeat of 2008/2009 stimulus), and very few worker protections. In addition, someone making $30k a year gets less than someone making $70k a year, yet I can live off $70k comfortably, but $30k is paycheck to paycheck. it's bailout money for corporations and not the average man. And for those that say, well those corporations are the ones that will keep the common man employed. Well just go look at history. These corporations will still lay off huge amounts of their workforce, avoid tax cuts, and do buy backs of their stocks.

Republicans just want to band aid the problem until that band aid rips and they'll prob walk away from it in the end, let Democrats in the next term fix the economy and come back the term after with "let's make America great again" god I fucking hate how stupid the average middle American bumblefuck is.
GREEN LINE GO UP = ECONOMY GOOD

>> No.23012662

>>23012454
Yes, that's exactly what I'm getting at.
My only question is if TMF is going to fall off a predictable cliff like in this pic.

>50% TQQQ
>50% TMF
Assuming you were following that plan with a portfolio, what do you think of doing 50% UUP instead of 50% TMF until we fall off the cliff, and then switching to back to TMF?

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>>23012454
>>23012662
Forgot pic.

>> No.23012691

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.23012718

>>23010982
>Filtering out 99.5% of /biz/ so its just like 20 posts on the entire board at a time

>> No.23012727

>>23012572
Actual educational stuff. I don't peruse the bond market much. Only had 50k at the time. Just interested in Carnival...since it was $7 a share at the time....wondered about their bonds.

If I remember right

7k, between 7-12% interest for 10k bond.

Was fantastic...but glad I didn't...looks like Cruises are fucked and Carnival has A LOT of debt obligations to pay in the short term.

>> No.23012741

>>23012584
>>23012517
>>23012558
My point wasn't about illegals who don't have voter ID, they can't vote anyways. I'm saying that voting requirement/ voter ID laws have always targeted US CITIZENS. Voter suppression is an outcome of voting requirements, and that is what the stimulus is trying to combat. How much of a fucking smoothbrain do you have to be to defend voter ID laws in America that have veritably been found to facilitate voter suppression? Isn't that fucking concerning to you? Or did Fox News not talk about that part to you?
Voter ID laws by design make it more difficult to vote - the idea being that if it's too easy to register to vote, people might do so fraudulently. In fact, there's little evidence of that type of fraud occurring.
Voter ID laws typically require a potential voter to obtain a specific form of identification at cost to them. In effect, requiring that one purchase the ability to vote (a poll tax), and a barrier to the very poor.
Voter ID laws typically require a potential voter to obtain an ID from a specific location or set of locations, in some cases that may be dozens of miles away (in the case of Texas, some people have to travel >100 miles). This is problematic if the person cannot drive and no transportation is available to them (elderly and rural poor), and also difficult for people that have jobs that do not give them time off to do so.
Voter ID laws require documentation that may be difficult to obtain and is typically not available free of charge. Passports and birth certificates require money to obtain, and an out of town birth certificate can be complicated to obtain (depending on where you were born). Not all US citizens have birth certificates on file.

Not everyone gets a driver's license, since car ownership is beyond their financial means, or because physical limitations prohibit their qualification as a driver. These issues affect non-White and poorer American CITIZENS by large the most. Not fucking illegals.

>> No.23012765
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23012765

>>23011837

>> No.23012769

>idiots screaming about market moves
>on a fucking Saturday when it's closed
take your meds, schizos

>> No.23012787

>>23012741
And the smoothest brain this side of redd!t award goes to!

>> No.23012796

>>23012558
Where are said pics anon?

>> No.23012805

>>23011171
just kys now and save us all the trouble

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>>23012787
>voter suppression, transference of wealth to 1%ers, getting jewed out of better healthcare for much cheaper at a lower cost to the
country but you can't because its le evil socialism boogeyman, gerrymandering, etc
i sleep
>people wan't to get rid archaic voter laws that have been demonstrably used to prevent Black Americans from voting
THIS IS TYRANNY

>> No.23012838

>>23012584
>Not needing ID is some 3rd world banana republic shit.
Funnily enough, 3rd worlds tend to have extremely strong ID verification. In some countries they even have high-tech biometrics to check ID before you can vote, all the systems are wired (no written ballots), and so forth. I don't really know any country outside the USA that does not require valid ID to vote really.

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Bullish or Bearish right now?

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23012861

>>23012787
>voter suppression, transference of wealth to 1%ers, getting jewed out of better healthcare for much cheaper at a lower cost to the country but you can't because its le evil socialism boogeyman, gerrymandering, etc
i sleep
>people wan't to get rid archaic voter laws that have been demonstrably used to prevent Black Americans from voting
THIS IS TYRANNY

>> No.23012863

>>23012838
India manages to do it with a population in the billions of people and people who live in the bottom .01% of global wealth.

>> No.23012877

>>23012444

>>23012444
>The HEROES Act would allow immigrants who are in the country illegally AND who pay taxes to receive federal relief funds during the coronavirus pandemic, not just any unauthorized immigrants. You need an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number)

Nigs all have SSNs, they don't pay any taxes. just because someone has a government number doesn't mean they're a net gain.

>> No.23012889

>>23012249
>Buy anything Dorsey is CEO of.
I am legitimately interested in Square but why or how is that a good reason?

>> No.23012896

>>23012354
It'll probably tank a bit, like most stocks. It's been crabbing around $1-95c for a month now. You might be able to buy in at around 80c if the stimulus fails to pass. And honestly, you can probably afford to wait. It won't likely be until around mid-late November that the USACE releases their ROD.

I'm just selling covered puts to try to guarantee at least a 90c entry point until late October, at which point I'm gunna go balls deep.

>> No.23012897

>>23011779
yea somehow a trump eo to develop american owned mines applies to chinese owned NAK

>> No.23012903
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>>23012075
>I’m going to snap!

Don’t make me spend time with my family! Noooooooooo!

>> No.23012913

>US
>Two-thirds of states expect you to provide identification to let you vote at the polls.
wait what
i thought you guys were just kidding

>> No.23012926

>>23012097
>american industry
> foreign mining companies
choose one

>> No.23012931

>>23012863
This. This has always pissed me off. India is a country where mothers literally give birth on the dusty roads outside their village and then shit on said road right after and they eat mud pies to survive. Yet they have far better voter accessibility than America does. They literally send people out to random jungles in bumfuck central India to make sure people in tiny villages can vote.

They even made a movie about India's robust voting system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU6zMPFd4UU&ab_channel=ErosNow
here's the trailer

>> No.23012940

>>23012444
Found the Tranny.

>> No.23012942

>>23011817
I'll be dancing on his grave

>> No.23012948

>>23012897
Why do you say it is Chinese owned?
If you don’t respond I’ll just assume you’re full of shit.

>> No.23012953

>>23012861
b8/8, I'm not buying it.

>> No.23012968

>>23012861
>NOOOO IT'S TOO HARD TO ASK NIGGERS TO REGISTER TO VOTE LIKE LITERALLY EVERYBODY ELSE DOES THIS IS RACISSSMMMM
You have to go back.

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>>23011943
>viruses are living organisms

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>>23012861
>if you scumbags want a holy war then stop this vehicle

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.23013029

>>23012948
its not outright chinese owned but its financed by a lot of chinese investors. Slimy chinks are trying to slip their belt and road bs into alaska industry

>> No.23013033

>>23012857
check btc

>> No.23013037

>>23012727

7-12% interest is pretty high, makes sense since carnival is junk bond status for both their secured and unsecured lines. My biggest worry would be if they would get called earlier if the option was attached on them. So let's say you get 10% and 10 years, if they attached a call option on those notes they can buy it back whole for say, 5% interest within 5 years because one wednesday Jerome decides he's going to put us at flat 0% interest. Sounds great because you made 5% on the spot, but issue is that you are going to have to find another obligation that pays as well or invest in more risker assets to get that same payoff due to the call like stocks for say. Works well if you're speculating, doesn't work well if you're an 80 yo adult that is looking for a decent income stream during their retirement. Hence there's this duality with callable bonds. But what I explained so far is just the tip, bonds are a giant can of worms I don't touch since I don't have a million or two lying around.

>> No.23013038

>>23012354
NAK will be unaffected by stimulus.

>> No.23013071

>>23012354
NAK won't be affected until Pebble Mine is officially announced in December

>> No.23013082

>>23012913
We have a lot of propaganda directed at midwits like 23012741 to think more votes are suppressed by ID requirements than all the shady activity that flourishes without them.
Their only argument is oh yeah, show me evidence of that activity then!
Except we already had one presidential commission under Democrat Jimmy Carter which found mail in voting is subject to hella fraud. Democrats shut down the second commission under a Republican because they said it's all a Nazi hoax to disenfranchise black trans illegal women of color.

>> No.23013099

>>23012897
It’s owned by Canadians through a US based subsidiary but there’s very good odds it will get US funding because the mine is the largest undeveloped source of Rhenium which was named a strategic resource needed to be developed following trump’s EO.

>> No.23013107

I really don't care if ABEO gets bought or not or even if any drugs in the pipeline makes it thru the FDA approval process. I plan to sell on the hype that makes the stock price jump to least 2.5. Considering that before the management shakeup this was going for around 3 - 5, said spike back to least 2.5 should be a cake walk.

>> No.23013152

bonds are based
guaranteed returns
highest priority in liquidation
cool name

>> No.23013166

>>23013082
>We have a lot of propaganda directed at midwits like 23012741 to think more votes are suppressed by ID requirements than all the shady activity that flourishes without them.
Hey retard, the National Bureau of Economic Research has already disproven your retarded Fox News -tier claim. But keep on listening to Tucker Carlson's hot takes you fucking slackjaw.

>https://www.nber.org/papers/w25522
>https://www.nber.org/papers/w25522
>https://www.nber.org/papers/w25522

>> No.23013182

>>23013107
The board and CEO jumped off. If no buyout then probably bad news. Downside is definitely there.

>> No.23013201

>>23013071
early December or late December?

>> No.23013203

>>23012931
Yet like
>>23012877
said niggers can't be expected to have ID to drive or buy alcohol and newports or do anything adults do. People against voter id laws just want aliens to vote for our future and they should be honest about it. The mainstream will praise them as brave and woke for doing so I don't know why they hide their motivations.

>> No.23013213

>>23013166
Go to pol so they can laugh at you
This is for stocks, friendo

>> No.23013291

>>23013201
No one knows, the only thing that we've heard is that it should be approved "end of year". I'm not gonna bother reading about it till early December. The only reason I'm voting Trump is for his capital gains tax cuts and his facilitation of the Pebble Mine so i can buy NAK calls

>> No.23013310

>>23010621
ATTENTION SMG FAGGOTS

you will be able to trade stock synthetics using stablecoins on cap.finance in Q4

get ready dumbasses

>>23008856
>>23008856
>>23008856

>> No.23013319

>>23013099
>Canadian
is it better to own it as NAK or NDM though
im still wondering about that

i guess there's no reason for me to have to go through norbert's gambit or exchange rate fees, but being locked out of extended hours trading scares me

>> No.23013340

>>23013166
Your paper proves that ID requirements do not suppress votes.
It is literally called "Strict ID Laws Don't Stop Voters."
It is silent on whether a lack of ID requirements suppresses votes, but that question was answered in the affirmative by Jimmy Carter's panel.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667
Please educate yourself and stop supporting voter suppression policies. Our lack of a functioning voter ID system harms voters, and it's like a million times worse for black trans illegal women voters of color. Of course it's just one more thing the rest of the world can handle but stupid Americans can't because of your slackjawed Maddow and Cooper hot takes.

>> No.23013356

>>23013319
Explain the difference

>> No.23013376

>>23013291
I asked because I already bought Dec 18 calls on it. But now I wonder if I should sell back at a tiny profit while I can, and then re-buy calls with a bit longer-term expiry date?

>> No.23013380

>>23013356
im a leaf, if i buy NDM then it's in CAD, but if I buy in NAK I have to convert to USD first but I get to do extended hours trading just in case

i'll probably just do NDM anyways. What the fuck does NAK even stand for

>> No.23013392

>>23013380
NAK stands for we're all going to be rich

>> No.23013432

>>23013380
>Where my NDMers at??
Doesn't have the same ring to it.

>> No.23013438

>>23013380
>What the fuck does NAK even stand for
Northern dynAsty Minerals in USA
Northern Dynasty Minerals in leafland.

>> No.23013446
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23013446

TQQQ or SQQQ at open?

>> No.23013511

>>23013446
better diversify to be safe and get both.

>> No.23013521

>>23013446
TQQQ or SQQQ
http://www.strawpoll.me/21043028

>> No.23013532

>>23013380
naknek you retarded fuck do you know anything about this stock

>> No.23013542

>>23013511
>>23013446
>buy way-the-fuck-OTM SQQQ calls AND TQQQ calls
>QQQ does a thing
>???
>proft

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>>23013071
What exactly do you mean by "officially announced"? The USACE ROD is due sometime this Fall. I can't find information on a more specific timeframe, nor anything that makes mention of December.

I guess the ROD might drag out until early or mid December but that'd be pretty late.

>>23013376
Definitely a wise move. If you're not gunna hold stock, at least get call that expire sometime in the 1st 2021 quarter. That will cover you if the USACE deny the current NAK proposal and they need to take a month or two to submit a new one like they did back in August.

>> No.23013567

>>23013099
how convenient all of sudden its not a gold mine its a rhenium mine. I'll be sooo surprised when the rhenium play doesnt pan out

>> No.23013577

>>23012741
what a retard. I am from Brazil and we have stricter voter ID laws than in America. It is not so hard to print a piece of paper with a verifiable number to check citizenship. If even fucking Brazil can do it, America (the richest country of the planet) has no excuse.

>> No.23013600

>>23013577
You don't understand bro, only wanting citizens to be able to vote in our elections is basically like sucking Hitler's cock.

>> No.23013625

>>23013099
according to ndm their mine is gonna double the worlds rhenium supply as of a study crapped out in a day two weeks ago. totally not a scam bro

>> No.23013657

>>23013567
That's because the rhenium just started to get talked about back in August and September. Are you just seething because you bought at the $3 peak back a little while and are stuck bagholding? Just because rhenium is being talked about right now does not mean the gold is no longer there. It is still the largest undeveloped gold, copper, and molybdenum mine in the world. It's just that the rhenium is very significant because the amounts in the pebble mine alone would be enough to increase US production by 85%.

>> No.23013659

>>23013567
Stop getting all your fucking information from /biz/ threads and spend at least two minutes on google you ignorant shitstain.

https://www.mining-technology.com/news/northern-dynasty-announces-mineral-resource-estimate/

>> No.23013669

>>23013577
>>23013600
Another important point: if the government already pays thousand to niggers and mexicans, why it can't pay more $5 (it should be cheaper, but I am accounting for government fuckery) for a fucking piece of paper? If a paper is too much you can just give their number and provide a way for voting places to check that number.

>> No.23013699

any tips for which current dips to buy?

>> No.23013703

>>23013657
im seething because its a fucking retarded scam company whose ceo brags about owning politicians. bought in at .67 and sold at 1.47. bought back in at 1.00 just so sell covered calls to retards. NAK is a scam project and has been since 2001.

>> No.23013717

>>23013659
im the only mofo on biz fudding this shit stock. im definitely not getting my info from u guys

>> No.23013722

>>23013703
Post portfolio now.

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>>23013699
I've heard copenhagen is a good dip. Personally I prefer snus to dip tho.

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Is there any real reason for BPF.UN to have 25% dividends?

>> No.23013751

>>23013659
rhenium starts being talked about as critical to the US and all of a sudden pebble mine can double the worlds supply according to the guys that havent been able to make their mine happen in 20 years. Yea sure i believe them.

>> No.23013761

>>23012877
illegals are only a net gain when they don't get anything in return from us in exchange for doing underpaid manual labor, if you give them shit than the entire point of their existence is lost.

>> No.23013771

>>23013699
TQQQ

>> No.23013786

>>23013566
>>23013376
What are your 12/18/20 calls striked at? I also might do the whole NAK Q1 2021 calls strategy

>> No.23013789

>multiple nfl players with virus
>Drumpf with virus
>multiple us politicians with virus
>now Juventus with virus

Bro’s you might want to cash out some of your gains.

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>>23013722

>> No.23013806

>>23013789
Did that EOD friday. Now is a good time to be buying some dips

>> No.23013838

>>23013789
Why should any of this affect company earnings?

>> No.23013842

>>23011452
Why own TQQQ when you can just buy as few of the big names as you're comfortable with on margin? 2x AMZN, maybe others, is going to have less risk and similar/better gains than the leveraged ETFs

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>>23013722

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>>23013789
This is the oft prophesized "second wave" and it's going to be shorter and weaker than the initial wave and everyone is going to realize Kung Flu has always been a nothingburger and we go on Golden Bullrun and China collapses.

>> No.23013878

>>23013786
All my NAK calls are set for February next year, I'm probably gonna get some May ones too soon.

>> No.23013886

>>23013842
TQQQ does well so I use it often

>> No.23013908

>>23013886
do you just have to keep buying super short dated calls in order to profit of TQQQ

>> No.23013942

>>23013857
im retarded about options

does this mean you made $0.33 premiums on every share when you wrote the covered calls?? isn't that a lot?

>> No.23013948

>>23013857
>1 call
lmao

>> No.23013959

>>23013908
I buy shares when they dip and wait for a retrace to sell. Repeat that about once a week. You can make a few % trading intraday regularly. If you don’t make money just hold until tommorow. It really is that easy

>> No.23013998

When AAPL was 400 before the split i thought it was overvalued as FUCK and wouldn’t have touched it

Now that it fell heavily and is trading at 110 which means 440 i feel tempted to buy

FUCK i got years of experience and still fall for this bullshit

>> No.23014006

>>23013959
>It really is that easy
you ever short TQQQ or just buy the dip and wait for a retrace then sell? that sounds a lot more comfortable than a batshit swing trading options strategy on these leveraged ETFs

>> No.23014021

>put about 4000 in the stock market
>thought I was being smart by hedging and opening up a few money market accounts with some credit unions
>realize im getting and effective .8% return with the interest; with a total of about 7,700 in 3 different savings accounts


So this is it huh? My literal only option is to dump it all in the stock market and even if im braindead I should at very least be able to make a 1% return? Fuck this kike world there are no smart plays to be had.

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>>23013857
The hell is this font?

>> No.23014025

>>23014006
I said I buy shares. No options involved in my strategy

>> No.23014052

>>23013998
>tfw average trade price for AAPL is 125 for me
Will this fucking new KikePhone get released so it booms to 140

>> No.23014070

>>23014025
>>23013959
How much TQQQ do you hold at a time? Just TQQQ or do you swing any other leveraged ETFs? Do you use a cash account or do you have the $25k for day trading on margin?

>> No.23014080

>>23014025
That's why Im surprised, i haven't seen any non-options strategy on TQQQ posted here. I'm tempted to try your method out.

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>>23014021
What exactly are you hedging by putting capital into shitty money market accounts? If you're going to be that retarded you might as well buy muni bonds.

>> No.23014099

>>23014052
>he bought the literal top
I expect it to be underwhelming senpai... what feature could possibly surprise

Long term you should be fine

>> No.23014138

>>23014081
I just did the math and my whole post is me realizing said money market accounts arent doing much for me. I've made a measly 300-400 right now from the stock market and I got in semi mid september. I cant imagine, even with all the risk involved of not being able to take home more than fucking 63 dollars a month through the stock market.

So... I go all in?

>> No.23014139

>>23014099
>Long term you should be fine
that's obviously the goal but fuck me is this shit boring.
i also bought TSLA at 410 and its now 411......all my long term holds are sinking down or running a loss

>> No.23014142

>>23014021
You weren't hedging. You were letting your money waste away

>> No.23014178
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Most of you bought the dip right? Its going to be green next week. Trump recovery, senate bill pass then Trump will executive order the stimulus bill to guarantee reelection. There will definitely be crab days as the election gets closer but we're going to be trending upward based mostly on the stimulus and how Trump handles it. I don't believe Biden will have any effect on the stock market unless he literally wins.

>> No.23014185

>>23014138
You invest what you can afford to lose and keep enough liquid to buy good opportunities.

>> No.23014186

>>23014070
I have about 30% of my portfolio in cash for red days or for swinging TQQQ. I dont have $25000 invested yet so I just use my three trades wisely. Most of the time I hold overnight though. I put all of my profits into NEE or V

>> No.23014197

>>23010732
He also managed to send out a tweet during the debate

>> No.23014215

>>23014138
why do you think /smg/ keeps cooming over GME
even fucking Gamestop has made a bunch of anons here at least 20% even after it dropped down from $11 back to $9
and we expect it to go to at least $15-$20 by November
even fucking bed bath beyond has gone up +40% this week, and over +400% since April

>> No.23014218

>>23014139
At least you didn’t buy XOM..

>> No.23014233

>>23014215
GME is a bad buy right now.
t. Ive made decent gains when it went up to high 10s and back to low 9s and back up again.


Bad buy though

>> No.23014261

>>23014218
>he bought oil
>in the year of our lord mmxvii + 3

>> No.23014278

>>23014215
The reason why is because most of the people who bought that are gamblers who buy into whatever dumb shit gets shilled enough and they're too new to know better.

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>>23014233
the chart says you're wrong

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>the chart says you're wrong

>> No.23014378

>>23014307
you guys used the same chart to suggest we'd be at 11+ yesterday. the chart doesnt mean anything friend

I'll hold my 155 shares until it hits mid 11 but then im OUTTTTT

>> No.23014392

>>23014378
because trump got covid and if he dies we'll go into a civil war and there will be no ps5 release in the us

>> No.23014422

>>23014392
It's fine, regardless of what happens to him we'll get one more stimulus check and all the console peasants will use it to buy PS5s and make us all coom.

>> No.23014433

>>23014392
oh my bad I didnt even look. yeah im sure it'll rise. Thought you were talking about the shorts

>> No.23014441

>>23014178
>asians are superior they say
>no better than fat ameritards

>> No.23014456

>>23014178
>It's going to be green next week
God I wish

>> No.23014488

Can you still close out an option you sold?
I was under the impression that once someone buys it, it's out of your control and you have to wait until the buyer does something with it.

>> No.23014495

>>23014081
Been looking for that pic. Thanks Anon.

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Even if it's a bloodbath Monday, I'll buy some cheapest and sleep well knowing JPOW will save the markets again.

>> No.23014512

>>23014261
Will oil EVER recover?

>> No.23014522

>>23014441
The difference is in America that's a perfectly normal group of women. In Asia they stick out enough to be considered a spectacle like that.

>> No.23014531

>>23014512
Shell CEO said oil won't ever recover after covid pandemic is over

>> No.23014549

If trump dies, should we take out mortgage loans to buy leveraged SPY and QQQ when it crashes? Srs question

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Have you started selling covered calls yet?

>> No.23014593

>>23014531
So move to green energy or nuclear energy you think?

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>> No.23014605

>>23014563
No, but I will this week, I promise, Miss Loli.

>> No.23014628

>>23014593
TAN
PBW

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>>23014563
Soon as I scrape together 4 grand to toss into HYLN I swear I will. These premiums are actual retard tier.

>> No.23014651

>>23014593
Bruh if you haven't gotten the memo, green energy is the clear move. Buy EV and energy securities
>>23014628
what are the moves for these ETF's? long hold?

>> No.23014666

get out of the stock market ASAP

>> No.23014674

>>23014593
>NEE
They own Florida power and light (huge customer base and nuclear energy). And they own next era energy renewables

>> No.23014679

>>23014666
why satan?

>> No.23014687

>>23014674
Meant to add that they own the largest renewable energy company in America. Look into NEE for your energy play. 4-1 Stock split at the end of the month

>> No.23014692

>>23014666
well i mean donald is tweeting hes fine so the same faggot cucks who took everything out, SURELY will put it back in because they are that impulsive.

>> No.23014704

>>23014628
Why not ICLN?

>> No.23014710

>>23014651
Yes - solar is the future; big advances being made in cost effectiveness
Also China has announced they'll be carbon neutral by 2060, which means big subsidies for their solar companies, which means US companies will likely be given support too in order to not fall behind & be competitive

>> No.23014738

>>23014307
ps5 and next gen is DOA
there's nothing to drive any widespread interest this cycle
people are more hyped for GPU iterations than entire consoles

>> No.23014747

>watching tv with boomer parents
>awful lot of army recruitment ads
How do I wartime my portfolio?

>> No.23014762

>>23014738
PS5 is literally sold out everywhere I looked

>> No.23014793

>>23014762
A lot of that is scalper bots that buy them up the instant they go for sale and sell them on ebay. I mean it doesn't matter for us because sales are still sales

>> No.23014796

>>23014747
>not realizing that you're receiving that ad because the algorithm detected that you're a fucking loser

>> No.23014846

>>23014738
dorks don't care about consoles and care more about gpu's but normies have been gaming for a while now and make up most console plebs, your average wagie sports watcher can't wait to play the new CoD on PS5, and spoiled children can't wait to get one for xmas.

>> No.23014851

>>23013948
im not buying a bunch of underlying when its gonna bust to 0

>> No.23014914

>>23014793
no it does matter because real customers are far far more valuable to Gamestop when they come back to use up their reward points
fuck scalper bots

>> No.23014917

>>23014365
>>23013166
>>23013340
If you're going to get BTFO like this and just ignore, please put on a trip so I can filter your faggotry and speak with intelligent adults in peace.
You've been doing this soijack thing for like four days now.

>> No.23014948

>>23014738
Gaming is mainstream now retard. People buy new consoles like they buy new phones.

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i hate stocktwits boomers so fucking much guys

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So both DAL and CCL have earnings next week. Trying to decide which one to sell covered calls on.

>> No.23015000

>>23014738
This ought to be true, but isn't.

>> No.23015037

>>23013340
>Please educate yourself and stop supporting voter suppression policies. Our lack of a functioning voter ID system harms voters, and it's like a million times worse for black trans illegal women voters of color.
You realize I've been agreeing with this the whole time? A lack of functioning voter ID infrastructure that eveywhere else in the world has disproportionately affects non-White voters. Why did you get all worked up and emotional about something we both have the same stance on?

>> No.23015045

>>23014966
ccl's earnings are going to be negative several-billion lol. DAL will be similar.

>> No.23015069

>>23015045
Ok, but does that mean it will go up or down?

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Buy GME, wait until November, simple as

>> No.23015099

>>23014710
Where can one read up on solar energy news? It all seems like a liberal cope when nuclear energy already exists.

>> No.23015114

>>23015096
Change that to DIV and November 2028 and you’re right

>> No.23015122

fresh, someone else bake after this one
>>23015107
>>23015107
>>23015107
>>23015107

>> No.23015125

>>23015099
He is coping. Nuclear is the future. Solar is retarded.

>> No.23015131

>>23014645
is HYLN a good buy rn at 39.75?

>> No.23015154

>>23015114
DIV has a Negative 40% returns over 5 years.
It gets completely obliterated by just SPY, let alone QQQ or better yet, TQQQ.
A potential moon (not GME lmao my sides tankers v2 tards) gets a year's worth of TQQQ gains in a month.

>> No.23015172

>>23014796
It's on cable television which means it's for the meat puppet masses. I don't watch boomer vision.

>> No.23015173

>>23015154
Didn't read buying more DIV lm fucking ao

>> No.23015188

>>23015037
That's a complete 180 from this post >>23013166
You need to put on a trip because you're 1/10th of this thread and it's all utterly worthless content. I want to discuss stocks including GME. If you're going to post the same soijack response 10 times in a thread put on a trip.

>> No.23015189

>>23015154
some people just dont understand that dividend stocks are one of the worst investments you can make. it boggles my mind.

>> No.23015198 [DELETED] 

Getting pretty annoyed by this happening to me in stocks

1.
>buy stock
>keeps going down

2.
>buy stock
>sell call
>stock goes up
>stock keeps going up
>walk away with paltry gains

These arent even penny stocks. They're promising companies yet somehow I get the short end of stick more often than nit with stocks. How is it almost every pick I make ends up going down for quite some time after I buy versus up? Anyone else know this feel?

>> No.23015208

>>23015125
>He is coping. Nuclear is the future. Solar is retarded.
Think buying some of both might be wise? I'm all for nuclear but it feels like solar is pimped out despite being objectively worse by miles.

>> No.23015231

>>23015154
That anon is going to post some chart supposedly showing DIV is better. Then some anon is going to say that any stock that doesn't have a dividend is fundamentally worthless.

>> No.23015255

>>23015189
To me the Dividend Irrelevance Theory is a door that swings both ways.

>> No.23015264

>>23015188
My second post isn't a 180 from my initial post. Did you even read that article? It iteratively demonstrates that voter ID infrastructure needs to be changed due to its affect on POC..

>> No.23015291

>>23015208
>>23015125
Nuclear is the future. It has almost no waste, is sustainable, and with modern creations, is very clean.
Only downside is large scale natural disasters can impact them, but with new construction measures and proper location, this will never be a problem.
However, they won't use Nuclear until the world is on the verge of ending because of liberal (and conservative) brainlets who think we are going to have another Chernobyl.

>> No.23015297

>>23015208
Short term, solar i still viable so its not impossible to make money. Theres not really any nuclear stocks yet, uranium miners aren't very good, the next closest thing is buying power companies with nuclear holdings or municipal utility bonds.

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>>23015154
Blah blah, GME is the next tanker, blah blah
Fucken delusional if you think the price won't go up by November.

>> No.23015320

>>23015264
Here is the sequence of posts. I'm not going to tell you a story about a conversation you were part of just because you have memory problems.

>>23013082
>>23013166
>>23013340
>>23015037

>> No.23015324

>>23014645
What's the IV?

>> No.23015378

>>23014645
Why the hell are they like this?

>> No.23015380

>>23015291
>>23015297
I found this nuclear energy and uranium ETF: NLR. Think thorium should be looked into as well?

>> No.23015387

>>23015320
And I am explicitly telling you right now that your reading comprehension skills are so fucking poor that you cannot parse meaning from sentences longer than seven words. Your grasp on voter suppression laws is as bad as the average American (extremely poor) but your reading comprehension is actually Patrick Star pants-on-head retarded.
Strict ID laws are in place to deter non-White voters and not to stop illegal voting.

>> No.23015408

>>23015380
Like I said, it is the future, but it won't be used.
You will not make money on them for an incredibly long time, maybe near the end of your lifespan.
Not even meming.

>> No.23015435

>>23015380
>>23015408
This. Until energy demand becomes high enough that data centers and AI research need their own nuclear reactors, its not going to make money.

>> No.23015445

>>23015387
>NOOO MY HECKIN POCARINOS ARE GETTING SYSTEMATICALLY RACISTED AGAINST!!!
Dilate.

>> No.23015463

>>23015435
>humans start panicking about meeting enemy demands
>everyone is losing their fucken minds, world is ending, literal acid rain and shit
>WHAT CAN SAVE US
>Nobody acknowledges technology we've had since before the Cold War.

This will actually happen.

>> No.23015480

>>23015387
>Strict ID laws are in place to deter non-White voters and not to stop illegal voting.
You posted an article proving the opposite.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w25522
It is literally called "Strict ID Laws Don't Stop Voters."
The fact that you ever thought I was taking your side is comical.
Look at this sequence of posts again. I am clearly saying that strict voter ID laws would protect voters, especially oppression Olympics finalists. Your criticism of MY reading comprehension and intelligence is peak irony.
Please for the love of God put on a trip so I never try to help teach you anything again.

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So what the hell should we invest in after the election? This is post NAK btw.

Give me your picks if Trump wins
and
Give me your picks if Biden wins

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>>23015408
>>23015435
>>23015463
This is not really news to me but this stamping out of hope for rationality is making me angry. Don't mind me though.

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>>23015480
>I am clearly saying that strict voter ID laws would protect voters, especially oppression Olympics finalists.
This is how I can tell you didn't have the reading comprehension ability or attention span to read that literature by the Bureau of Economic Research. You read the title of the article, then you closed out the window, thats all. The upshot of their analysis was that revamped voter ID infrastructure with new ID programs would protect POC voters.
I can't tell if you're trolling at this point, but I imagine there are people retarded enough out there like you who would read the title of a comprehensive national policy analysis and think they can infer any meaning from just doing that. Please for the love of God stop pretending like you actually have the attention span/reading ability to read any of the literature I posted.

>> No.23015579

>>23015522
Neo-cities will require nuclear reactors.
Space travel will require nuclear reactors.
AI/ML data centers will require nuclear reactors.
Quantum super computers will require nuclear reactors.

>> No.23015611

>>23015522
If the human race was rational we would have embraced Eugenics, genetic engineering, and colonized the solar system a while ago.
Instead we babysit corrupt countries and sub 100 IQ retards, while giving said retards the same amount of voting power as the most intelligent people on Earth, and letting them outbreed the most intelligent individuals.
Think about that for a second.
We are growing dumber as a species because stupider people have more children, but we are so irrationally afraid of talking about it that without transhumanism we might all become sub 100 IQ.
The human race isn't rational. If we can get AI to take over without wanting to wipe us out, we'd achieve anything. We have so much potential but we are held back by things that make no sense.
Keep that in mind when investing in future technological industries.

>> No.23015667

>>23015491
if Biden wins he promised to decriminalize cannabis. Idk if that means current cannabis companies will do well or just that big tobacco takes over the market or what. I don't think most anons are on board with it, but it seems like a good play to me.

>> No.23015708

>>23015491
Anything


Nothing

>> No.23015835

>>23015611
So invest based on sound businesses today rather than the bedside whispers of tomorrow?

>>23015579
So tell my kids to invest in nuclear?

>> No.23015966

>>23015574
The content supports the title, dumbass. It's not some clever contrarian play.
Please put on a trip so I accidentally try to help you be less stupid again. If I wanted to larp as Sisyphus I'd buy DIV.

>We already had one presidential commission under Democrat Jimmy Carter which found mail in voting is subject to hella fraud. Democrats shut down the second commission under a Republican because they said it's all a Nazi hoax to disenfranchise black trans illegal women of color.
>Our lack of a functioning voter ID system harms voters, especially minorities
>LACK OF
>LACK OF YOU HOPELESSLY DENSE MOTHERFUCKER

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any reason Boston Pizza has dividends at 25%?