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Buy HD

chink pendy is fake news edition

Why is it so hot when girls burp?

Bros I can't stop losing money

>>22894701
>I went from 300 to 7k over 3 months and lost it all on the Sept 2nd """correction"""
can you elaborate more on this please? just curious.

>>22894905
He obviously gambled it away. Probably timed TQQQ wrong a few times

Jannies HAVE to start removing dupe threads.

>>22894847

>>22894894
He said that he forgot his trip but he hasn't been active on stocktwits either for some time.
https://stocktwits.com/Takedzi
Is he kill?

>>22894905
my guess is he bought weeklies on a 3x etf and won and then he did it again and won again and then he did it again and lost it all like the degenerate gambler he is.

>>22894900
burping feels good...

remember to spam red wojaks post and say "all is lost sell sell sell"

all the hedges are using deep learning and AI to run sentiment analysis on linguistics and basically if you guys are fucking telegraphing happiness then its fucking over for all of us

>>22894904
hodl spy and shut the fuck up

>>22894955
>He said that he forgot his trip
It's not Pendy then.

Buy NAK
Fuck salmon

ABBOTT PENCE
Is this shit for real? Cramer has been talking about it for a while, but I'm watching the cspan highlights of todays rose garden thing, and pence and the general that demonstrated it and now cramer tweeting again that it's good to go and buy abbott, it does sound appealing...

It also makes my UVXY hedge look dangerous as fuck.

My calculations tell me that its time for a bussi pounding

nice futures you have there

>>22894948
I ultrakek'd at "top bear: sell everything"

but yes i do buy the dips

my friend lost 40 grand this year in the market and hes refinancing his fucking house so that he can take a loan to day trade with to make his money back


I want to help him become a good trader I know he can do it he just for some stupid reason thinks like dogshit

how can I make my friend not think like dogshit

please let nasdaq dump again I want cheapies back and I won't hesitate this time

will the election dump for MSFT be cheaper than ehat it is now?

>>22894997
bears >>>/out/

BUY BOEING

I LOVE AH PUMPS WOOHOO

>>22895009
ell em fucking ayy ohh
tell him to go all in AMD at least

>>22895009
>how can i make my friend not think like dogshit
that's a matter of genetics, son
he's fucked

>>22895033
No

>>22894998
who is this semen demon?

>>22894975
Now THIS is bullish

>>22894756
good for you
making money swinging is perfectly respectable, but it's not the only means of making money in the market
there are many different ways that the market can be approached, and I like to approach it from a long term value perspective (the intrinsic value in biotechs is their science, not their financials, and most people have no clue how to assess that and therefore shouldn't invest significant amounts of money in biotech)

>>22894810
that's why you have to do DD and know how to distinguish a good one from a bad one (I'm not saying I'm an expert at this either, but I'm learning)
the odds of a given biotech making it from phase 1 to approval as a whole are low, but you can increase your odds of success by doing your research and making an informed decision
the exact same thing I've been saying, and I stand by it

>>22894997
You're a terrible spammer because you don't have the anti-social schizoid vibe going on, take notes from spammers of other boards and come back later. Try the scat spammer on /sp/.

>>22895009
If he's doing that then he has gambler mentality and lets himself be controlled by his emotions. He will.never make it and will go bankrupt. What you should be doing is convincing him to take that stupid loan.

>>22894998
futs are halted, nigqer

>>22895047
it's my wife

>>22895009
thanks for this. im the guy who lost over $300 today, stories like this make me not feel like such a retard. like im dumb, but at least im not a fucking retard.

Threadly reminder that Bears think they are more clever than everyone else, which is why they are so smug. It enrages, confuses, and infuriates them that "dumb bulls" can just buy and hold, and still make more money in a year than them. Bears make more money 1 or 2 months out of the year, sure, but they always lose in the long term. So don't get mad if you see a Bobo, just realize they are the same kids from school that said they were smart, but only got bad grades because they didn't try/the teacher hated them

Buy BBBY Puts (Thursday earnings)
Look at RSI
>reports positive #'s = BBBY up 10%
>reports neutral #'s = BBBY down 10%
>reports negative #'s BBBY down 10%
seems like a run-up to earnings - it's been dragged by the coattails of other retails like DKS / TGT / WMT
Go by your local BBBY before Thursday this week and gauge foot traffic for yourself
You can buy 1 Put for $100 - if it does tank, you're looking at $1,000; seems like decent risk/reward

Who's buying plm to be up 25% when you wake up?

>>22895053
YOU AM GALT TROLL AHHH YOU CANT JUST SAY THIS AFTER BAG HOLDING GALT @ 6 DOLLAS FOR 2 YEARS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>22895047
It says her name on her clothes anon. 428.

>>22895009
Sorry fren some frens are just retarded

buy tqqq or is this yet another bull trap?

>>22895053
>>22894981
>>22894955
>>22894894
You're not Pends

>>22895068
he just wont listen to me I have the knowledge to free him financially and he keeps ignoring me and watching youtube scammers for advice

why must he do this why

I'm voting for Trump.

>>22895089
everyone makes mistakes, who cares
if you learn from them and do better in the future, you aren't a retard

>>22894962
But you’re not a girl

>>22895086
your wife lusts for my cock

>>22895089
its sad, hes a fairly smart guy but he listens to the wrong folks or just only wants to listen to himself and hes just doing it so fucking wrong

>>22895110
I think he wants to be better than me at trading so he refuses to use my advice

is there any way to solve this kind of idiocy

>>22895009
your friend is a gambling addict and needs psychological help

>>22895019
THIS SO MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>22895033
I already did today

>>22895129
it is true

>>22895151
also the solution is to point him at livetraders or no nonsense forex and have him learn a system or setup with proper risk management. just have him do something simple like 1:2 risk:reward All or Nothing. here have him watch this video and take notes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEjUd82NVVg

if he can't handle an almost 2 hour video then trading probably isn't for him.

>>22895114
The fact that you think you have the magical answer is an indication that you're probably way over you head.
Freely fuck your wallet, but if you actually care about him just tell him to stay aeay from gambling.
I'm pretty sure you don't give a shit about him, you just want someone to listen to you because you want to convince yourself of your brilliance (probably funning-krueger's).

>>22895151
>>22895170
What exactly is his plan to trade back up his losses?
If he's actually day trading stocks, he's a a retard. If he's buying options, he's also a retard. If he's got discipline and is doing covered calls or spreads, he's still a retard because he took out a loan to do it but it's probably his best option.

Look if he's gonna do it, he's gonna do it. Think of it like this: you can teach abstinence all you want but teenagers will bang each other - make him wear a condom.

>>22895009
tell him to buy GME

he will say you're retarded but you can come back to remind him by Christmas how much GME has gone up

>>22895176
psychology isnt real but I do send him lots of material regarding personality because I believe a lot of self awareness comes into play when trading

>>22894995
What the fuck are you even talking about?

You guys ever just hold something that only gains like $3 after 6 months? Man time to get some cash back that could be used better

>>22895099
don't bet against BBBY
it's outperformed tech and even TQQQ so far for a reason

also
>Look at RSI
hahahahahahahaha

>>22895114
he is literally me, except figuratively
please give me the means, shit I don't even have a house to pay off yet...

>tfw i've been thinking about getting into SBE and SPCE for the past month or so

a-at least i have SHLL

ARE WE IN A BUBBLE?

>>22894847
GME Chads, update on that S3 report.
Someone with supposed access to a bloomberg leaked deets

TL;DR
counting "synthetic longs" real short interest is ~57% of float

>>22895203
Nice analysis but this isnt true, I have tried extensively to get him to play the game responsibly. It only encourages him to be more stupid.

>>22895201
He is intelligent enough, I believe his personality is just garbage.

SPY predictions by EONextW?

>tfw up 0.8% AH
Yup you gotta work for those gains

>>22895259
of course. but timing the crash is just gonna make you broke.

>>22895264
oh no no no

>>22895265
If you see him unable to control himself and you want to encourage him to keep going (just in your own "correct" way) then you are just sociopath. I am glad that I don't have friends like you (as far as I know).

Bobros where are you?

>>22895216
No matter what I suggest to him, no matter the studies I show him, no matter the audiobooks on finance and game theory, no matter what he just does a fuckload of weekly calls and puts based off what some youtube personality said.

It's frustrating to watch your friend set money on fire.

>>22895245
I’ve held Disney for over a year and am at break even still

>>22895276
240

>>22895313
Might as well sell abd put into something more upward trendy.

>>22895291
COULD WE BE IN A CRASH THAT TAKES 10 YEARS TO RECOVER, OR WILL THE GREAT DEPRESSION NEVER HAPPEN THAT BAD AGAIN?

>>22895327
No I like Disney

>>22895308
lol let him burn then; you're casting your pearls before swine.

>>22895264
mmmmm wonder if this true have never herd of such situation usually naked shorts just write up lots of credit they do actually produce these phantom long stocks >_>

>>22895264
so if im understanding this quickly, this is mainly because shorting 100% of outstanding shares also means you have 200% of outstanding shares in the market?

still a lot considering that's still around ~35 million shares that aren't behind institution, insiders, whales

>>22895330
>10 years to recovery
this isn't the 1930s, things don't move that slowly and governments are more than willing to enact Keynesian economic policies to jumpstart the market. If it crashes to 240, it will be back to 320 within a year.

>>22895293
the explanation seem fishy but even if we take it at face value 57% of float short is massive

TSLA was what, 18%?

So boomers say the average yearly gain is around 7%, but I assume that's if you're ultra conservative and you're only putting your money in VOO or some shit. What's the average yearly return for someone who manages their portfolio on a semi-daily basis? Is 23% YTD good? Am I spoiled by the current market for thinking 23% isn't enough?

>>22895350
>it’s different this time
Said right before every crash

>>22895218
fuck GME
>>22895298
He is totally capable. In fact most people are. Also, stop projecting your weird fantasy bro. I don't suggest those kinds of specifics to him. 99% of our conversations are me showing him peer-reviewed papers and talking about audiobooks I've listened to. The extent of my direct advice is "stop fucking trading weeklies please". I have all of the information anybody would need to win in the market long term. The personality of the person is the only true limiting factor, and this can be addressed.

>>22894995
Theres no such thing as a hedge. Thats just fancy wordplay for saying youre betting against america, and that wont be forgiven

I want to get gaped by big black cock

>>22895348
that's pretty much how I understand it
if we take the thesis at face value it doesn't discount the potential for the squeeze, just makes it less likely to happen on Friday with a massive FTD closeout as some were speculating

So if we are green tomorrow, we are officially in the uptrend right?

>>22895361
do you have a child's level of reading comprehension? i just said the crash is going to happen faggot

>GME moons to $20
>I have an impossibly difficult time trying to fathom someone - or even a collective of people that would buy my 100 GME stocks and $20 dollars a piece
>like how stupid would you have to be to put in an order for multiple shares at that price. How fucking dumb?


This makes me uncomfy

>>22895264
Explain this to me like I’m retarded

>>22895360
23% is stellar for a hobbyist. These mobths with huge vol are an exception (also the last two years were an exception as well).

>>22895387
>So if we are green tomorrow, we are officially in the uptrend right?
no, not necessary. $QQQ can still be green but not break 280. needs to close above 2

>>22895392
>it’s different this time
FED can only stop the crash so many times. They stopped it on 08 and they stopped it this year. The third time won’t be so pretty, probably a 95% chance that a 10-15 year bear market follows the 2021 crash

How many stocks is too many in a portfolio?
Five? A dozen? Two dozen? A hundred?

>>22895360
Are you a first year investor? 23% average per year is incredibly good, and you should apply for a trading job and make even more money if you can do that. 10-12% per year is decent

Buy SPCE

>>22895264
Why do you have to write so many words and create terms like "synthetic long" in order to explain something so obvious?
If the float is 60 mill and 100% is short then 120% million shares are being held as a long position. This puts short to long ratio to .5 but that number is meaningless. The only thing that matters is short to float. Half of the 120 mill longs are simply holding IOUs but that doesn't really make a difference. What a bullshit article.

>>22895264
hes basically saying once that share is borrowed it can be borrowed again, therefore expanding the lending pool infinitely i think

>>22895360
my guess is a solid 10% I dont think 20 is a thing

but what do I know

>>22895340
And I like your mom, but its better to buy things that gain value rather than lose or stay the same

>>22895383

>>22895443
Disney will be $200 by EOY 2021

Tips on how to suck cock in a porta potty

>>22895264
lol, this is literally just re-explaining the same situation but trying to frame it as FUD. There are still more shares sold short than in the float, if the synthetic longs do not sell the borrowers are still fucked

>>22895360
the 7%/yr figure comes from a combination of annual spy returns and the 72 rule, but I think spy's actually crept up to 10-11% a year now (since the 2010s) thanks to tech boom.

>>22895416
do you mean from different companies?
do you mean invested in one company?
do you mean all of your shares from each company combined?

Theres no answer for any of those questions.
I personally like to avoid diversification if thats what youre asking. I have never seen success from doing so on my end.

>>22895453
Wtf im buying now

>>22895351
Nothing personnel but you're a tard.

Should I DCA into SPY or just buy 100k of it right off the bat?
Need funds to bang malnourished Thai girls if that matters.

>>22895383
I want to gangrape a black sissy

>>22895365
You mentioned game theory, for example. If you truly believe that field is even remotely capable of generating realistic hypotheses, you're absolutely and completely lost. Game theory is about toy models that are still surprisingly able to replicate some interesting properties of lsrger scale systems. But there is no renormalization that will allow you to take those toy models and shit out stochastic differential equations that explain the macro behaviour (otherwise everyone and their grandma would be doing that).

>>22895415
>probably a 95% chance that a 10-15 year bear market follows the 2021 crash
DISREGARD, I SUCK COCKS

>>22895464
this also mean the more you buy the more they have to borrow expanding the bubble further

>>22895504
You’re probably bad at it

>>22895360
Well this year has been shit yet my total market fund has returned 13% so far. So if it can do that in an shit year pulling down least 13% when things are rocking good is a cake walk.

>>22895453
Mulan sucked dick though

WWR may hit >$5 tomorrow, if anyone's still in.
Another good probably PM mover is LMFA. It's already moving now and will surely dip, but it should go high real good tomorrow in PM too.

>>22895483
Dude count me in maybe we can rub cocks in her bussi uWu

>>22895109
No clue i was bulltrapped into TQQQ twice now. Wouldvebeen like 5 times had i jumped in every single time...it hurts

>>22895416
Everything is correlated now. Just choose good companies and try not to bet more than 10% of your portfolio on a single asset (unless it's a boring boomer spx etf or voo).

>>22895400
>I have an impossibly difficult time trying to fathom someone - or even a collective of people that would buy my 100 GME stocks and $20 dollars a pie
Bobo who borrowed it to sell at $4 and now must return it any price

>>22895482
Dca and go all in if there’s a crash from election chaos?

>>22895420
>>22895420
I started """investing""" first week of May this year. So still in the covid dip but no where near the bottom. I imagine if I had been in the market at the start of the year I would only be up ~10%. I'm a little worried if a retard like me can make gains like this we're in a hardcore bubble but I shouldn't worry too much since most of my positions are long term.

>>22895482
Time in Market is better than DCAing

>>22895420
I already have a job (that I can't quit for reasons) but how does one actually get a trading job that isn't from those DAYTRADE FROM HOME USING OUR MONEY firms like maverick trading?

>>22895496
game theory absolutely has a place in trading, options today are priced at toy models (black scholes, etc).

>>22895360
average investor makes like 2% per year because the average investor is stupid.

getting anywhere between 7-14% per year is matching/exceeding market indexes.

anything above that and you should get paid to manage people's money

>>22895360
QQQ is up 28% YTD...

>>22895535
Second WWR, rumor they're announcing a partnership with Tesla later this week

>>22895019
Should of bought the dip, I've seen this said at least 18 times this years so far.
BY THE FUCK DIPS, IGNORE THE BEARS they just shorting for a week/till expire.

>>22895548
Bull Markets are easy to make money in, that's all. Especially now with the internet. We can shit post all over the net and hear all sorts of ideas that we wouldn't have otherwise heard of. Do your DD on something and see if it makes sense. I started 10 years ago, and most analysis sites were (Still are) trash

>>22895365
>I have all of the information anybody would need to win in the market long term.
Bruh hook us up with some of that info. Hell just a reading list would be fine.

>>22895535
shill me WWR

>>22895480
ok nigger

>>22895385
and ultimately as every short covers, the "amount" of outstanding shares also decreases.
but it does explain how we get volumes of 30 million without any shorts covering, because the float is really still that big with all the shorted shares floating around

just means we're in this for a short burn and we have to make sure to trim positions as the price goes up or risk bagholding after November

>>22895565
Only retards use black scholes to price options.
Also, the hypotheses in black scholes at least are in the correct scale.

>>22895612
You're not even the same guy,
Why exactly did my random reply offend you?

>>22895496
dont you talk shit about game theory

I like to get high on meth and get fucked by bears in the porta pottys at construction sites at 3 am on friday nights uWu

>>22895626
because I am an Autistic Retard

>>22895264
oh wow there are some papers on this subject pretty math heavy tho
https://www.sec.gov/comments/s7-08-08/s70808-318.pdf

>>22895472
Never fuck with the mouse

>>22895639
To be fair ive had faggots sperg on my many times for using the “r” word

really wish I would have dipped into SHLL I only bought 1 share for funsies

>>22895624
>Only retards use black scholes to price options.
90% chance your exchange uses BS to price options. I know for sure RH, ToS, and IBKR do.

started investing July 15. this shit is hilarious

>>22895496
Anon, obviously you nor I have the resources to create an accurate fortune teller. This is an absurd angle to take. Absurd. The art of choice making has so many elements there is nearly no information, nearly no concept or theory, nearly no noise that you should discard at face value. Especially to discard something from the basis of it being daunting. Pathetic. Obviously you're well aware that game theory is not solely related to economics.

>>22895482
Just dca your entire portfolio and buy every dip. That's what I do.

Shill me some stocks to dump 70k on anons that are very likely to 2x by eoy.

>>22893670
Just looked into them. They dont make vehicles they just "convert" vehicles. Get the feeling ill get bogged on this one.

Since what company wouldnt just get the whole vehicle in one go from someone like tesla or hylion? Whereas with xl you have to buy a vehicle, than take it to xl to have it changed or whatever it is they do to the vehicle. Sounds like more effort desu. Shill me some logical reasons as to why i should toss 12k at them.

>>22894475
Anon im trying to get rich here not maintain. Im trying to not only escape wageslavery but also help my family escape it.

>>22895602
I wouldn't be able to guess which information would be specifically helpful to you. Have you tried googling things you don't know about?

>>22895609
See >>22895590
Also it's riding off the PLL hype.

>>22895360
8-12% on a normal year, but you must take into account fees of course.

>>22895660
Well if they’re using BS to price options, you have an arbitrage opportunity.

>>22895663

>>22895663
How correct am I?

>>22895627
Another retard detected.

>>22895677
>Im trying to not only escape wageslavery but also help my family escape it.
get a job.
build experience
acquire new skills
get a promotion
hit the gym
have sex
get a clue

>>22895264
So is this good or bad for GME call holders and share holders?

>>22895496
You don't need explanations, just predictions. Machine learning is basically magic and just works even when nobody has a clue why or how or what it's basing its accurate predictions off of. Game theory + ML = GANs, which are quite practical for what they do.

>>22895691
looks like a buy at the top to me...

Guys I think I'm fucked for a couple years with this position. Just like a lot of new investors I dropped a couple hundred into individual stocks for shits and giggles but I got too caught up in the "potential" price raise that I missed the chance to double my investment. I felt stupid that I got caught up with the long term so now I'm just saving since I'm not a good investor.

>>22895660
The exchange is not the one selling and buying the options, they mediate.
If you think investment banks price equity options with black scholes, lol...

>>22895482
DCA unless a crash, you can always increase your DCA amount when an official correction is called (DOW down 10% or more)

All in actually makes more money over the long long term, but that has a high emotional cost for most, too much for me at least.

>>22895736
Nothing changed. Ignore.

it blows my mind that people unironically LOSE money on the stock market

it's literally not that hard to come up on top

>>22895739
I think It's pretty topy as well, which is why I only really suggest it for people who came in early or those with risk tolerance. It can still hit $5 PM tomorrow (if not more) but it's up to you to see if that fits your risk profile.

>>22895736
Its nothing new. So neutral.

>>22895259
Likely, but when does it crash and will you pull out before it's too late?

Who else invests in The Walt Disney Company?

>>22895664
You cannot predict ecents, but you can be more ormless accurate in predicting the probability distribution of those events, so YES something CAN be done (and IS done by a lot of people and institutions).

>>22895690
Honestly, there's an ocean of info and I'm having trouble navigating where to get my feet wet. At this point I'm just buying large-cap Murrican stocks whenever it dips for long term holds. I want to learn more about swing trading, but I don't want to get baited with wrong information.

>>22895772
>Yes. Invest in China. It's inevitable.

>>22895664
Also, when the fuck did I say game theory is daunting? On the contrary, I clearly stated it's just stupid toy models. Retard.

Why is SNAP’s value climbing like a cat for catnip in high places? The app is junk. Cringe whores sell pics of skin on onlyfans now

>>22895736
see this discussion
>>22895464
>>22895518
>>22895423
>>22895385
>>22895620

>>22895743
>$463
If you have more money, invest in GME and BLNK. Maybe WKHS

FUTURES RED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>22895743
its all green whats ur problem

>>22895772
I do, but I only don't regret it because I bought at a really cheap march price. Otherwise disney has crabbed hard for like 5 years, and no dividend now. If I didn't get march cheapies I'd be pissed as fuck as my money would have been better in my 0.03% interest savings account

>>22895360
Go for 200% with the SAVA+GALT combo

>>22895387
>he doesnt remember the several bull traps with various length of time since September started

>>22895780
True, but that is not at all in any way shape or form the limit of what game theory can be applied to.

>>22895743
This is pathetic. Why didnt you sell GE last week when it hit 7 and pick it up again as it dips under 6?
>xspa
Nigger what are you doing?

Sometimes the dippy comes up once in a generation. The DIS march sale event was one of them. DIS @ under 90 per! (I got some in the 80s range). My avg for the lot is just under 119.00. DIS would have to drop under 108 for me to add more otherwise I'd fuck up my avg. Thankfully though DIS makes up a decent percentage of my port as it is.

>>22895738
ML is not magic.
If you meant deep learning, by the way, it's just a statistical estimator that remaps point in one space into points in another, it's not magic (intractsblr =/= magic).
Also, do your fucking research, "machinr learning" actually doesn't work most of the times, in fact more than 80% of hedge funds that try to use ML strategies eat dirt and go bust. A few do get results, though.

>>22895796
You unironically think the deterministic nature of our reality isn't there. You just don't have all of the information that would allow you to predict the future. That does not make things relative. That means there is a limitation to the data.

>>22895374
it's literally just a scheme to buy more TQQQ/QLD/MSFT/BRKB/etc.

Do you have any names that do well early-cycle? I don't want more consumer staples or live sports. Though bowling could do well if it somehow gets some excitement in the betting markets.

>>22895548
Not a "bubble" so to speak, you'll see that word thrown around constantly. We have heard it since 2008 onwards, that a bubble has formed etc etc ect

Whilst it is true that assets have increased, they simply formed their aggressive growth from aggressive Q/E and bank lending. If you sell stocks for this reason, you are basically betting against America, which is dumb long term.

>>22895848
Bowling is such a comfy sport. I should go out more.

Is $BP worth a gamble?

So does anyone bet against America? Any foreign companies that come across as lucrative?

Spacex launching ipo for starlink

How are Apple stocks doing? Is it a good idea to continue holding or pull out?

>>22895823
Alright. Just link me one of those magical papers. I refuse to believe your words, because I have never in my life seen game theory used for anything other than its inherent purpose (simulating discrete games in lattices) and used by brainlet economists trying to convince themselves of complety ludicrous shit.

>>22895758
cathy...

Just got off work, happy to see CLIS moving. They announce app launch?

>>22895841
>it's just a statistical estimator that remaps point in one space into points in another
You're trying too hard to sound smart.
That makes me think that you're actually just a tard.

This is my watchlist. I'm a broke college student who most likely has less saving than your weekly earnings. Point to me which if these you think will do me a solid in the next 3 months

Fuck I pay more in taxes than Trump does and I make shit... (Trump's paid just $750 in taxes for the past 10 or so years)

>>22895879
>Elon Musk says he likely will take Starlink satellite internet service public in 'several years'
You got my hopes up, I'll give you that.

Just sold all my portfolio and have about 2K to spend. Shill me on some stocks anons.

>>22895734
Take a hike npc

>>22895910
Do you own a business that you can leverage tax credits with?

>>22895895
This.
t. data scientist

>>22895910
How's it going, Anonymous Source?

>>22895848
What your gragh fails to show is that everyone knew it would fail.
That tank in the market before the rejection was because of the rejection.
Even if it hadnt happened yet everyone fucking knew it would get rejected cause dems offered Zero plans and only bitched and moaned and basically said they wouldnt and then skipped town. Dems representatives care about no one

>>22895910
Legitimately inspires me to become a billionaire instead of whinging about it.
Still voting for him too.

>>22895847
>reality is deterministic
You're completely retarded.
Also, just sticking to finance, the stochasticity of finant assets is more than proved, it's not a subjective opinion. There are criteria that determine them as such. Just like measures are made to compute how "random" a series of numbers is (used ro determine the quality of rngs) you can do the same to anything that has a series. Look into it.

With the current Vtuber drama over Bilibili how bearish does it look for a nice short?

>>22895881
Anon this is amazing just read the basic definition of game theory

it is literally just "choice making"

how often, throughout your day... do you make choices?

Holy shit.

>>22895913
Sorry only say the headline myself

>>22895922
NAK you faggot

>>22895908
get CLF off your list. Even if you miss out on gains, you wont have missed out on anything

AMD, GME and BLNK are your friend

>>22895941
you know its actually impossible to compete if billionaires pay nothing and middle class people pay the full amount

its math. you cant become billionaire

>>22895922
>Just sold all my portfolio and have about 2K to spend
>2K

get a job

>>22895922
Buy the mouse

>>22895922
JUST BUY TSLA BRO

>>22895743
Well you really aren't working with much funds so I wouldn't worry to much about it. You also learned a valuable lesson so congrats.

>>22895943
>he thinks things are relative

Big time wrong.

Remember, niggers.
>Buy the dip, sell the rip
>Sell the pop, cover the drop
Works 90% of the time which is enough to make it

>>22895956
Who is Bilibili and what is teh drama?

>>22895922
1K in SAVA 1k in GALT. Hold for 5 years. If one becomes a 10-15 bagger, put money into the other.

>>22895895
>>22895934
It's literally what it is. Neural networks AT BEST can do something similar to interpolation (in the feature space). Hence why you need so many points, or else your interpolation is absolute dogshit. The interpolation is not linear, but it's just based of the chosen sigmoid function.

Anyone still in oil, specifically MRO?
Been too scared to touch it since it tanked in June

>>22895966
I'm already holding GME, thanks for the suggestions man

>>22895235
talking about the new 15 minute test from abbott labs

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4910384/admiral-brett-giroir-demonstrates-rapid-coronavirus-test

>>22895956
>the current Vtuber drama over Bilibili
???!!!??!!???????

>>22895958
I've never made a choice in my life I let /smg/ make all decisions for me

>>22895913
>starlink
Idk, now if it was SpaceX you better blieve I'd go all in. Probably get a loan as well.

>>22896000
but this isn't true why do you want NN to be so limited

>>22896000
>interpolation
Overfitting is one thing but interpolation?
wew

>>22895908
>CLF

Does the rule of not buying at open apply to IPOs?

>>22895967
Its just sounds bad.
Imagine making billions and paying fuckloads of taxes.
Then next year you have BILLIONS in losses. You dont pay much.
Maybe then next year you make hundreds of millions but your losses from last year were so huge you pay almost no tax this year.
This is literally the same for anyone With a business.

abott is based they send me diabetes trackers on my arm for free whenever it breaks

>>22895102
>at $6

my cost basis is slightly under $4

>>22895958
Stop avoiding the question. You mentioned magical results and papers, send them to me. People are retards and they are not playing a game in stocks, they're playing against themselves most of the time. Also they are not efficient.

>>22895986
What is your education? Serious question. If you haven't studied why reality is stochastic then it's not something that I can convince you on a forum.

>>22896000
The game is extrapolation, chief

>>22896069
You're not pendulus. Get the fuck outta here.

>>22895967
You know very well that math says you can be one, it's close to impossible but it's obviously possible. HOWEVER it's impossible for people that flood threads on 4chan with koreans, that's proven

>>22895995
Are you the original GALT anon?

>>22896065
i didnt say donald trump i mean bezos and verizon and people

>>22895841
You are the dumbest buzzword-spouter I've seen during my 15 years on 4chan yet and that's saying something.

>>22896067
>K Pop anon has diabetes

People that manage funds probably spend all their time on reddit and 4chan lmao

>>22896050
It's literally true. Just google that. I guarantee you'll find interesting stuff to read.

>>22896053
In overfitting you are filling up a small region of the space and then you ask your mapping to interpolate in very sparse areas, or even worse, extrapolate.

>>22895971
Just started a bit over a month ago and only 20. I've been wageslaving at my UPS job.

Looks like McAfee is readying for an IPO.

>>22896104
No I was the SAVA shill mainly

>>22895758
i wanna fuck Cathy

>>22896083
No, it's not.
It's not because you're using previous results to do an induction that it suddenly becames a mathematical extrapolation.

>>22895307
I'm here buddy, check that volume. don't have paper hands

>>22896128
You do google, we do real life. How about that, Timmy? By the way, you're not allowed to browse this site, since it's 18+.

>>22896126
Biz is unironically a good place to start doing research.
I don't know if I could handle working with other people's money though. I'd feel fucken terrible if it went wrong.

>>22896067
>kpop anon fat to the point his pancreas stops working
We knew this all along though

>>22896073
I literally didnt say magic even once. The papers I usually send my friend are always related to technical analysis. You really need to work on your social skills. You are grabbing 10 things from my paragraphs that aren't there and having a fight about it. Lunatic.

Playing against themselves is part of the game. The primary part, for most folks. This is part of why the study of game theory is so important.

As for my education, I'm a full blown high school drop out. But I can however assure you, that if you try to gatekeep because of that then you're just a loser IRL. Reality is stochastic only with a particular lens, it is unironically 100% deterministic at the most basic layer. I suggest looking into quantum mechanics, maybe holonomic brain theory.

If you're saying is it useful for things to appear random, then yes, it is indeed useful.

>>22896117
Ok, bro. Show a oage of a book of the topic or even a wikipedia paragraph that directly contradicts what I said very strongly.

>>22895264
>On the other hand, keeping the active traders in the market maintains the scheme.
Increasing N leads to lower ) (2 * P , which leads to greater short selling by the informed investor and the manipulator and higher profits for both. The manipulator camouflages his short sales at time 1 to conceal their true purpose from the active traders. This provides a further incentive to naked short because trying to borrow the incremental shares could tip off active traders. By naked shorting, the manipulator appears to be a long seller.

O_O can short thesis of GME be completely wrong, and they am actually lots of manipulators trying drive up price with naked longs

>>22896160
I am physically facepalming. You have transformed me into a redd!tard by your abject retardation, and yet I am probably the only person alive who has never been to redd!t.

Is stuff like FNGU, TQQQ, NAIL and HIBL back on the menu? I have $4k I want to throw into something relatively solid with high profit potential in the short term, as in ~6 weeks

>>22896143
based. keep going anon

Who also went all cash for the coming disaster that is two old men with dementia arguing about the nation's future?

>>22896067
Lol faggot

Wtf I just bought in and /biz/ is talking about a new crash? Do I need to sell or HDL?

Why don't I have an option for recurring investments?

>>22894975

Prepare for war.

>>22896128
How can you take a constantly growing field and just say "it doesnt work"?

What goes through your brain when you declare this an acceptable way to navigate the world?

>>22896177
>>22896119
type 1 diabetes

im not fat

but i did pracxtically kms by sugar and overeeating and drinking once in too short a time

>>22896067
*slowly stops sipping on coke*
O_O

>tfw sold TQQQ at the bottom

>>22896165
I do real life alright, but I don't need to resort to call to authority to try and justify my claims. If you have an argument to disprove what I said, please shownit. I'd welcome learning that I am wrong.

>>22896128
Regression not interpolation. Interpolation is a very severe case of overfitting.

>>22896240
YOU HAD 6 (NOW 7) CHANCES TO SELL ANYWHERE BUT BOTTOM REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>22896198
>coming disaster
ah I see you are a biden guy

>>22896244
You don't know a single word you've been spouting thus far. You don't even know what real life is or does, sorry.

>>22896198
You better get some cheapies while you can you dumb faggot.

>>22896208
hope you're not serious, who fuck listens to 9/10 of the garbage posted here. Bare in mind bears here say we should be like sub 20k DOW-J right now lmao.

>>22896181
I have a degree in Physics.
You mentioned that game theory can be used for maby things and it is very valid. I'm asking you to show me examples instead of saying "trust me bro". I'm genuinely curious but highly skeptical.

>>22895908
Alright I removed CLF, I was just throwing random stocks together that were low and spoken of frequently on /smg/

I haven't bought into any of these, I was wondering if I could have some advice on which one I should buy

ABEO possible merger coming up: CEO and several board members resigned, stock went down 40%, bullish wedge forming. Last time that happened was on StemCell, which jumped up 600% on news of the merger following the same kind of resignations and bullish signals.

>>22896217
Well I don't think robinhood is equipped to do recurring investments. If you want to do recurring investments your best bets are stash and TD ameritrade.

>>22896309
just a heads up from me, dont buy AMD at the current price

>>22896296
Shouldn't you have been in the test chamber half an hour ago?

>>22896192
I haven't read it, but I suspect it might elucidate my point:

>>22896332
Thanks, don't think I would have, are the dips extreme enough for me to buy in >50?

You know, if GME goes to $20, I might be able to get to $120,000 next year. That might not be a lot for some anon's, but for me...
Anyone else in the same boat?

>>22895848
>no consumer
does not compute, buy Tootsie roll before it catches back up with coKola and Nestle

but In my humble opinion Google is undervalued and it will become the number one worldwide streaming service. It is early cycle, mid cycle, and late cycle

>>22896296
>I have theoretical degree in physics!
Classic.

>>22896309
I would say most of that is not great but PLUG and WKHS are a couple decent picks. AMD isn't really that bad but it hasn't had any big moves since July

Honestly I can't claim to be a math wiz (The highest level math class I took was geometry; 18 years ago; I don't remember none of those fucking equations either). But the bottom line is real simple; Is the profit/cash flow greater than the expenses for the quarter/year. If it ain't something is fucked.

>>22896192
Oops, forgot the link
https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.10451

>>22896296
Very nice about your degree

Alright, so game theory's applications in economics as for as I'm concerned pale in comparison to it's applications in evolutionary biology. If it helps you, please every time you see the phrase "game theory" just mentally replace it with "choice making". I don't feel like I need to prove that choice making can be studied and improved. Game theory has an application to all disciplines, all nuances.

>>22896332
Some of you guys are okay. Don’t buy amd tomorrow or ever

>>22896334
I think you need a degree in theoretical physics to get a job as a glorified cart pusher, not regular physics

>>22896374
idk i did the call lookup and i think id only have like way less than 100k if it went to 20

id have to get back with you on that . i think it was below 50k even

>>22896319
https://robinhood.com/us/en/support/articles/recurring-investments/

It should be right there.

>>22896374
I'm trying to hit 10k right now king so I feel ya.

Stay strong

>>22896222
1) I am only referring to applications that tey to forecast financial time series (or their properties)

2) I didn't say it never works, I specifically said that some funds manage to mske it work, but it's uncommon (might be luck and therefore survivorship bias)

3) we are talking about the currently existing techniques. I definitely think it's possible for something in the future to work way better

>>22896317
I want to believe but I only ever lose on bio stocks

My Boss's father is a holocaust survivor and every time I see him he looks at me like I'm an unchained beast.

>>22896374
Hell profit is profit. $10,100,100,000,etc, it's all good.

>>22896374
Fuck man if I had 120k all my problems would be immediately solved. How old are you? That's a great number to look at.

When did you buy in and how many stocks do you have?

>>22896317
I'm already in at 1.25, Bought to early. Might sell on a bounce though. What's your guesstimation on the timeline?

>futures

>>22896439
To be honest it just sounds like you want to download some software and print money out of nowhere

There is a competitive aspect involved here

>>22896443
I'm just throwing a few pennies in fren, if it tanks then whatevs, but if it moons it'll moon high

>>22896255
When very densely populated, a sample space is more accurate by interpolating, actually (regression takes into account useless neighbours). And if you do regression between closest points, it approaches interpolation. If you feel up your space a lot, it's almost interpolation.

>>22896271
Not even. It's been proven everytime Trump talks the market dips, Biden will be exposed tomorrow to be barely coherent. I don't see anything pumping because of the debates.

tomorrow is gonna be red, isn't it?

>>22896443
Abeo is good shit. Even if you have to baghold for a while it's very unlikely that you will have to sell for loss.

>>22896374
Lol is your phraseology here a reference to "this is eve?"

>>22896445
>Holocaust survivor
>In 2020
Was he one of the babies who popped out onto the gas chamber floor?

>FUTURES

>>22896273
Once again you just call me names instead of proving me wrong. Idiot.

>>22896366
it shouldnt go that low. I would have said around $75 is solid

>>22896490
Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask

>>22896488
This will almost never happen in reality. There are always factors that aren't in your dataset.

>>22896490
negatory. Tomorrow, we will test 11,200 for the 4th time and hopefully we pass it

>>22896507
My grandfather survived Dacau and he's still kicking around. Born in 1928

>>22896392
I actually think that choice making is better studied with (stochastic) control theory. You cannot really interchange game theory with choice making.

>>22896462
I'm all in with 30k+ with a cost basis of $9.46
If it goes to $60,000 I'd be able to invest it in some brainless recovery stocks that will double in a year or two.
I'm 27 trying to get my masters degree cause I worked after highschool.
I live at home to save money and help take care of my single mother.
Getting that kind of money would change everything.

>>22896507
He is at most 85 and he was telling me about how he barely survived and telling me about what he ate and the words the Germans used and shit.

It's amazing actually. I think he truly believes he is a holocaust survivor. He talks about it like it happened while he was in his 20s.

>>22896483
What made you think that?
I just think that game theory and blind deep learning aren't good techniques. But nothing really WORKS or else getting rich wod be a metter of making a few calculations.

>>22896552
go spend time with your grandfather anon

>>22896562
hope you make it fren
Might want to cash in some of the stonks on the next pump then switch them over to call options on the next dip

(/r/ing if someone has the GME hits $50 option pricing part of this article, since that's more reasonable)

Opinions on CSIQ and TREX?

>>22896462
I'm at 200k and I live with my parents 22. (I know u did ask me)

However, my problems are not solved. You still cannot buy a house and have enough capital left over to not have to go out wage slaving. There is also the risk of needing to keep your capital matching inflation, its either stocks or trash cash now days.

Just increases stress, but boy, did it feel good when I reach my first 100k

>>22896562
nice better gamble your life savings seems like a great plan

>>22896560
Control theory is nice but is far too restrictive and poorly reactive to unexpected events. Game theory is something that one should seek it's usefulness in all topics. You may not, at that exact time find a use. That is a personal limitation. Not a limitation of the theory. There is always a better choice to be made.

>>22896521
The end goal should be to get as much data as you can. That's why the BEST case scenario is for a neural network to approach interpolation.

>>22896562
Very cool fren, gl

>>22896616
It's regression. End of story.

>>22896615
>>22896560
>>>/sci/
Fuck off niggers

>>22896588
The fact that you consider it "blind" but obviously these systems are just immature.

>>22896611
This stock is safer than anything else I could find in the market that is even worth investing in.
The only gamble is how far it will go up.

you guys better be holding biib when fda approves aducanumab

>>22896562
thats terrible logic friend

if you get to 60,000 you have 60,000

you shouldnt be contingent on a string of things happening to "appear at 120k" wtf lol

>>22896615
You can try to use any technique in any given field, but results may vary.
I disagree on the effectiveness, though. In stochastic control theory you can define the underlying process that defines the state of the system as something that has an extremely fat tailed distribution, by giving it a jump component maybe (unexpected events).

>>22896656
eh, losing everything you have at 27 will be a good but painful lesson.

>>22896656
>This stock is safer than anything else I could find in the market that is even worth investing in
Holy fuck mate you clearly didn't look very hard then

>>22896684
I think you exist merely to be contrarian and I have zero respect for you

>>22896635
No, it's not the end of story. It's regression in a normal case and AT BEST it's interpolation, which was my inicial claim.

>>22896641
It is blind, apart from the assumed cost function (or hypothesis function, cannot remember the name they give to it in statistical learning theory).

>>22896712
I think you are easily offended and I couldn't give less.of a fuck about the emotions you feel about me. I will continue to defend my claims until proven wrong.

>>22896611
objectively ngmi

>>22896599
I do, he's really nice

>>22896756
Shut the fuck up retard nobody cares even the dude responding to you is half hearted just shut the fuck up

>>22896756
>>22896756
I'm not offended, but it does reduce my energy levels to get constant (you)s from a pedant that applies his own definitions to words that I myself have my own definitions for. It is a useless pursuit and you're wasting everyone's time with such behavior.

>>22896791
> I have a degree in physics.

>>22896424
Aha.... Its new.

>>22896738
I am questioning if you know the meaning of the word blind

making new

Could we not have an autistic argument next thread please and thank you?

>>22896791
>that I myself have my own definitions for
You cannot make up definitions for things that are already established. It's not my fault about that, but that shouldn't be a limiting factor in a discussion, because people eventually understand what the other person initially meatlnt (just like an equilibrium in game theory, kek).
Anyway, just stop replying to me altogether, then.

>>22896828
That must be the fucking click through I have to say No to every time I buy some random pump and dump. Fuck no I don't want to have a recurring buy of SPI, AMBO, OXBR, etc.

NEW you lazies @_@

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>>22894847
All my stocks broke even. Are we crashing again or what? Should I pull everything out? I’m scared

>>22896839
It makes no pre assumptions about the probability distribution of the variables being learned. That's what I meant.

>>22896859
Just use it on boomer stocks
>>22896849

Updated theory-crafting on the arbitrage strategy from Prather
https://www1.villanova.edu/content/dam/villanova/VSB/assets/marc/marc2018/SSRN-id3087564.pdf

>>22896704
Name one.
>>22896701
Even if it crashed to 6 I wouldn't lose "everything".
I bought actual shares dumbass.

>>22896824
>That cheeky excel table

>>22896856
Not reading this past your denial, you are unaware of the basic workings of reality and it's quite obvious.

>>22896887
Maybe 20 years ago fella

>>22896918
That post is literally schizophrenic, holy shit.

>>22895033
Too much desu

>>22896026
One of the most popular vtubers got a 3 week ban for saying Taiwan on her stream. Hololive put out a public apology and said they will engage in training everyone or some shit. Chinese fans sending death threats to her, fans outside of China are pissed and yelling at Hololive. Vtuber content only shows in China through Billibilli so they're directly linked with the controversy, but I don't know if it'll have any actual impact on the company lol.

>>22897032
>Chinese fans
>fans outside of China
Actual fans don't give a shit. That is CCP astroturf force doing the bullying.

>>22896155
me too anon. me too.

>>22894948
B A S E D
A
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>>22897051
Actual fans don't give a shit that she was banned for 3 weeks?