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Everywhere I read stories about loneliness, depression and general aimlessness of young guys (age 20-30). People don't realize how many people are lonely nowadays, it's insane. In the past a foreveralone was basically a geeky weirdo, but now even normal guys are lonely. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that traditional places where men would meet (clubs, fraternities, sports groups and so on) are becoming less and less. How can we change this? This whole world is catered towards women it seems.

Combine that with a low chance of making something of yourself in this world, and almost no chance to buy an affordable house.

I know this is 4chan and we like to make fun of only autists visiting this place but I notice this trend in all western countries.

>> No.22866322

>>22866271
No, it's just a small minority of incels like you.

>> No.22866380

>>22866271
just you bro all of 4chan is having sex right now

>> No.22866448

In any other system my charisma and self-confidence would be received as charming and indeed I get on a lot better with older people. But in this one it's only interpreted as an authoritarian desire to oppress and exclude women and minorities and abject arrogance (the latter of which I'll concede somewhat). I've got a gf but I've checked out of most other social interactions/obligations because of paranoia and distrust of normans. In short, I've isolated myself but that doesn't mean I don't feel alone a lot of the time.

>> No.22866503

>>22866322
and me

>> No.22866522

Hard to be happy and surrounded by people when you work a minimum work job and life looks like a dead end. I even missed the UNI airdrop, so I am also an autist.

>> No.22866579

>>22866271
Nice Jidf post. Kys

>> No.22866602

>>22866271
I like to poo poo and pee pee.

>> No.22866615

>>22866271
28. Ive been unhappy and lonely for years.

>> No.22866677

>>22866271
Because everybody is overly emotional and depressed before age 25, then after you even out. If you want young men to meet it's always been college or the military and that hasn't changed. You are a pleb, and the fraternities, religious orders, and masonic lodges don't want you. If you want a sports club and there isn't one then start one and advertise.

>> No.22866679

men have always been miserable. thats what drives them to take risks and inovate

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>>22866615
Shut up.

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>>22866677
Checked. Based and loser pilled.

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Reported for triggering.
Male!
Stop using the M word.

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Also, vax.

>> No.22866777

>>22866271

Oh me? I get drunk and get money with the boys. It was honked from the start. But we out here

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>>22866777
Get out nigger!

>> No.22866852

>>22866271
Yeah that's life in the 21st century
>>22866380
this, just fucked a loose 70$ hooker and now contemplating how 10 minutes of pleasure could be worth 70$, coomed twice today but still coomed in 10minutes fucking her, what sucks is that I have a gf but she was a roastie before so I'm trying to catch up x10.
>>22866448
Same, enjoy loneliness and don't care about social interactions, even having a gf I'm doing it just because everyone else is and she made the first move 3 years ago.
>>22866522
Every job is a deadend job, the best job is just wagecuckery with cream on top.
The problem is that science killed god, so the npcs are following consumerism and media for their meaning, and us are either accepting nihilism or we're following some conservative orderly state of things that requires npcs to believe in god and that will never happen post science.
>>22866602
based
>>22866777
checked

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It’s because there’s a conspiracy to destroy society

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>>22866271
true
>masculinity, standing up for your family / business is constantly demonized in media
>yet you are still expected to provide for everyone
>video games and various apps are programming you to crave sharp dopamine bursts from age 4, concentration impossible
>endless sugary / processed shit available cheap in most grocery stores
>lack of social clubs / sports avenues for exclusively men, everything is coed
>age of global competition and the absolute destruction of the middle class
>artificial intelligence continuing to grow more powerful and slowly invalidate more of your skills with every year
>be born right or suffer forever

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>>22866904

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>>22866904

>> No.22867025

you arent allowed to be happy as a white male in 2020+ cuz certain pointed nose shekel chasers dont want you happy and want you broken and defeated and queer

>> No.22867033

>>22866322
>>22866380

It's not about sex but I'm talking about forming a brotherhood of guys just chilling, or working towards a higher purpose. Friendships today are superficial.

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>>22866999
checked...

>> No.22867080

>>22867033
real friends are very rare and it has always been like that. most ppl just try to take advantage of you

>> No.22867120

Its 2020 wtf do you mean? Socialising is ILLEGAL!

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>>22867033
What would you guys do next? Suck each other's dicks? That would be kind of weird haha.

>> No.22867223

>>22866271
Yeah, I think a lot of them realise that the odds are stacked against them. Plus when they are brought up by single mothers, female teachers, female celebrities all going on about how men are evil, masculinity is bad, and women deserve more, it all gets so overwhelming and depressing. A lot just give up, after all, why bother when there is no goal/outcome to look forward to, and you are just going to get spat on for the slightest mistake?

As for your male-only clubs, they will never be allowed, some feminist will always be there to screech sexism while women can have their own clubs for "protection" and "support". And I keep hearing countless stories about how married men are being forbidden from doing hobbies and hanging out by their wives, all in an effort to dominate men.

This is never going to change until men are treated more equally and more than just expendable drones. It doesn't look like anything is going to change any time soon, because you are still going to have the top 20% of men who have no issue with the current situation because they have all they want, then you have the simps who will desperately side with women, and the women themselves who still demand more. And if you disagree with any of them, you are in incel. It's all so tiring, so men stop trying.

>> No.22867228

>>22866865
Sauce on this?

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>>22866271
I don't really notice that. Most people I know are unhappy to some extent but it's stress and bills not loneliness.

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>>22867161
yo come back, i got that meme you were talking about yesterday.
confirm you got it.

>> No.22867295

>>22866825

Yikes bro. Trip fagging and calling me an n word. Cringe

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>>22867259
Hahaha thanks fren!

>> No.22867315

>>22867223
it's going to change sooner than you might think lol. look at the debt. look at the reality that 70-80% of millennials, and virtually all zoomers, are not net-tax payers. everyone under 40 is checking out of a society that does not benefit them. white men hold up this system, and they're going to shrug the moment Trump loses in november. literally, the system fails when white men stay home from work for one day.

>> No.22867317

>>22867223

Good post, I always think about how we as men can change these things, because I don't want to lay down and rot. We always like to complain about the state of the world, and we have every right so, but we have to do something about it to take the power back to men.

>> No.22867436

>>22866904
Accept Christ who died for your sins anons, I'm a loser wagie, no friends, living with my parents, Yet I'm comforted by the lord and have peace of mind and soul

>> No.22867505

Seems relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jFRM0AnONI

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>>22867436
Based.

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>>22867302
nice, ty fren.

>> No.22867530

>>22866677
>everybody is overly emotional and depressed before age 25, then after you even out
Considering the suicide rate increases drastically in mens late 30s I'm going to call bullshit on this.

>> No.22867559

>>22867228
The Toronto protocols. You can find a pdf online.

>> No.22867575

>>22867530
That is the time when a lifetime of abusing your body, say, by doing back-breaking manual labor, begins to catch up.

>> No.22867654

>>22867575
People are killing themselves over back and knee pain?? I've got my doubts but either way I was just calling bs on the guy I responded to.

>> No.22867667

>>22867259
kek based norf

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>>22867530
really?

>> No.22867724

Fascism will fill the void.

>> No.22867757

>>22866904
>Masculinity is demonized by society but the hyper masculine chads are rewarded too well by society and taking all da wimmen!
You realize this is contradictory right?

>> No.22867882

>>22866271

Technology has disrupted our capacity to socially interact with eachother. Coupled by the death of the $, inflation, the attractiveness of drugs as an out, it's pretty hard nowadays to not be addicted to some habit/substance and to be happy.

>> No.22867891

>>22866852
Sammy's on to you.

>> No.22867925

It's because you're letting this place negatively effect your world view, and possibly projecting a bit.

>> No.22867928

>>22867704
Different data than I've seen but it demonstrates my point either way. Suicides sure as fuck dont decrease on men after 25.

>> No.22867958

>>22867704
bear trap at 65

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Because in the degenerate west people expect to be happy by default when it's a life long struggle to obtain and maintain. But honestly there is nothing for you to be happy about. What have you accomplished in your life that you haven't been forced to do. Do you have a career that you've spent time mastering your craft? Do you have hobbies outside of video games? Do you have money saved? Are you seeking meaningful relationships both in friendship and intimate with a woman? Na your wasting away in front of a computer passing around memes. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HAPPY! FIX IT!

>> No.22867962

>>22867925
no he's right

>> No.22867971

>>22866322
delusional
>>22866271
Most young men are lost because nobody teaches them basic stuff. They're the target of government entities who hate them for being white and male.

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>>22867302
Wtf is on with the WHITE suit?
Legitimately puzzled over this.
Any historically literate fren can clarify?
Ain't these fuckers supposed to dress darth style?
Pls hlep.

>> No.22868048

>>22867961
>>22867961
>seeking meaningful relationships... intimate with a woman?
How do you even do this? Casual sex culture basically blows that argument out of the water. There are no normal women anymore.

>> No.22868064

>>22867961

The point I am making in this thread is that people are unable to find meaningful relationships in either the form of male friendship or female intimacy (and I'm not talking about sex/hookups because thats basically the same as watching porn imo).

>> No.22868097

>>22867971
Men or male. If you can't even say a few words without contradiction you are a closeted leftie and redditor.
The above redundancy is for emphasis.

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>>22866904

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>>22868048
>There are no normal women anymore.

That's what the jews want you to think

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>>22866380
H-haha good one, anon. We're all fucking hoy babes, r-right?

>> No.22868213

>>22866852
>The problem is that science killed god, so the npcs are following consumerism and media for their meaning, and us are either accepting nihilism or we're following some conservative orderly state of things that requires npcs to believe in god and that will never happen post science.
I'm an atheist and I can admit this is true. Religion co-evolved alongside bigger brains as a security blanket against the bleak nihilistic truths about the world that our bigger brains started discovering. It worked for a while but our brains have gotten so big now that the safety blanket doesn't fit anymore. In the absence of a supernatural justification for why you exist and do what you do, people are adopting alternative that are less overtly incompatible with materialism and empiricism, like consoomerism and nationalism, but they also are less effective and fulfilling than a supernatural guarantee that your life means something and that you'll life forever beyond death.

I personally don't think it will get better until we a)solve space travel and offworld colonization and b)defeat death and become immortal. Until then, we're all just low, squabbling faggots fighting over meaningless trinkets and movements that don't mean anything because death is coming for us all anyhow.

>> No.22868281

>>22868181
Your oblivously optimistic about that one, dude. The jews are right about one thing: Shiksa is the best term to describe white women.

>> No.22868300

>>22866271
Demoralization thread. Fuck you faggot.

>> No.22868325

>>22867033
join some militia lmao

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>>22866271
>How can we change this?
Delete social media.
That’s never gonna happen though. That’s like trying to get rid of alcohol except social media actually has some noble utility.
Just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse soulless millenioids invented OnlyFans. Thanks guys!

>> No.22868422

>>22868213
Our social systems haven’t kept pace with technology

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>>22866271
A lack of purpose,
being taught to hate their own family origins,
and a society that has become less 'personal' thanks to social media bringing all personal interactions into the online space,
all of these things contribute to the isolation, loneliness, and sadness that is tragically common among young men in this era.
Pic is related, if you know, you know

>> No.22868451

>>22867757
He didn't explain it well. Jason Momoa is idolised because he's a 1% chad. He's allowed to be masculine. A young man working in accounting for example is seen as a beta provider, so attempts at masculinity get squashed hard.

Do you think this would happen to Jason Momoa? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7557947/Shy-awkward-student-19-faces-JAIL-sex-assault-conviction.html

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>>22868350
It's amazing society is happy with young women becoming digital whores. Why was such a platform ever allowed to come into existence? It is the destruction of innocence.

>> No.22868706

>>22867295
test

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>>22868350
>children
>late teens
Pick one.

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>>22866271
Ya I'm feeling about how you are trying to buy a house though I could get a loan working though a temp agency dropped 3k and 20 days out of closing they tell me I can't get a loan if this falls through I might just hop in my van and see how far I can get till my van breaks down or I deside to walk in to a lake

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>>22868634
Vax made you gay.

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>>22866271
The world is in a pretty bad state.

>> No.22868864

>>22868281
They call asian sluts shiksas too, Chang.

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>>22868451
No one is forcing him to work in accounting and be a beta provider.

>> No.22868983

As an financial immigrant from a Balkan shithole to a Northern European utopia (at least for my standards), I very much suspect this has to do with struggle. Comfiness breeds mental illness. Imagine taking a herding dog and raising it as a lapdog chihuahua.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=0&v=YPAesqaJ9tc&feature=emb_logo

>> No.22869015

>>22868983
How come you were too weak to hack it in the balkans when others could?

>> No.22869139

>>22868983
>Richard Nixon
kek
just keep strugglin for those satisfactoids and giving people like me 30% of all the value you create, one day it will all be worth it

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>>22869015
I know this is lowkey bait, but maybe you're right, if I had the balls I could have stayed. But I was 18, and it felt like too big of a gamble not to leave when I could. I now make x10 of what I would back home, while my friends work like slaves to make their bosses richer.

I know I have a responsibility to my country, but I also have one for the well being of myself and my family. I'm planning to go back when I have enough money to start my own business, without having to be the plaything of bosses and corrupt bureaucrats.