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Absolutely haram image choice.
This is why you should invest in GME. Only through the power of GME can you become a true chad.

Between all the shilling both ways, why are we still talking about gme? Can any honest anon explain if a few calls is worth it?

>SHLL, GME, and RKT

feeling bretty comfy desu

i wish I could turn my 10/10 sense of humor into capitalist gain ...
I'm good at finding partners because of it though

>>22849552
LEAPs yes, weeklies no
did you see how hard """they""" were trying to pin down GME under $10 on Friday?

>>22849552
>most shorted stock
>console cycle
>burry and ryan cohen (ecommerce billionaire) invested
>Pomp et.
>POMP ET.

I've been thinking about DCA buying INTC in the next couple of weeks.

Good or bad decision?

What's everyone's strategy right now? Are you holding? My biggest holding is VOO and I've been buying about $250 worth every week. Not sure if I should give it a rest for a few months since everyone thinks a crash is imminent. Still contributing to my 401(k) and IRA. I'm entirely in FXAIX that (S&P 500 index fund).

>>22847171

>>22849663
Just keep buying DCAing, if the market crashes for whatever reason start DCAing more

>>22849663
Holding everything. Im not selling anything anymore.

Just going to average down gme and tsla because I fucked up big time on both

>>22849663
im worried about a market dip which is why i have my money in GME shitcoins

>>22849663

Ultra short tbills and cash until I spot another big play. Was also thinking of putting some cash down on UNP since it took a beating the past 2-3 weeks.

>>22849552
it was a good trade but.... i would sell at $10

>>22849666
Are you bragging about having 13k? I remember having 13k of aapl and baba when I was 18 lel
>>22849749
Based chop choo chad

>>22849568
i made a lot of money on RKT.... i wonder if i should try to ride the RKT again.... but it would just be a random guess.

>>22848963

I'm not a good source for strategy, I just like posting here so people can tell me why I'm wrong.

If I want bet on recovery, all I'm looking for is high Beta. Beta is already reversion to a benchmark index so I trust it more than other metrics like EPS in Clown Market. I don't use official Beta, I eyeball it by overlaying competitors in one sector on a year to date and see which one has more recovering to do.

Second step is far more important, dig into the financials. I'm optimistic about 2021 but some companies are well and truly fucked. Maybe there's a reason WFC tanked and BAC didn't. To bet on recovery I also have to bet on solvency. I picked only one restaurant, DENN. Looked into it after it was shilled here and found they got PPP loans for 99% of franchisees and huge tax rebates for corporate.

FWIW I got both Carnival and Norwegian, I just want to be part of the meltup and bail when we're half way there because it will be volatile for years. It's one thing to say there will be growth in 2021, but how are you going to commission new cruise ships and plan for the future when every industry is suffering waves and waves of supply disruptions? I'm going to bail on all these picks eventually. TQQQ or bust.

>>22849782
i saw a guy here posting a $400 dollar portfolio at 19

you just gotta let them be lol.

Auy

So after the decent sized drop a few days ago, are chicken littles still constantly screaming that we're in a bubble, or have we corrected back to a pretty reasonable growth rate?

>Gold Scam Targeting Conservatives Raised $180 Million, Regulators Say
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>Ex-Deutsche Bank Traders Convicted of Wire Fraud in Market-Manipulation Case
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Looks like pmg will fall Monday. Good news for us stock boys

>>22849663
55% TQQQ
45% TMF
Increase TQQQ if you love America.

>>22849528
Sauce now

>>22849568
Is SHLL a long term hold?

>>22849872
based

>>22849782
I fucking wish I got into stocks a lot earler. I had 15k+ just sitting in a checking account for 7 years because boomers convinced me "you better be prepared to lose everything if you put it in stocks"

>>22849846
SHOULD I BUY IT?!

>>22849749
You think FLDR is any good?

>>22849782
Nah im just showing that the tsla and gme fuck ups haven't fucked my portfolio completely

>>22849782

I just like trains, also what gets me hard are quasi-monopolistic companies or oligopolies since some of them can generate profits out of the ass with almost no threat of competition based on their economies of scale. AWK, MSFT. and WM are some of my other picks. Would've said BA as well but they shot themselves on the foot hard switching to a corporate structure than being an engineering company that just made planes.

>>22849898
>you better be prepared to lose everything if you put it in stocks
good advice though, you just interpreted it wrong

Is CREG still going to get a Chinese bot pump like that anon predicted?
What about GOLD? That a long term hold? Im still a newfag at this.

>>22849578
Bump

Does anyone here care at all about dividends? Seems like it's an afterthought on this board. What do you think of Warren Buffet who owns virtually only dividend paying stocks?

>>22849308
SPY am daytrading vehicle, a real SPX proxy that has minimal slippage and great tracking. With real liquidity.

VOO am investing long term holding SPX alternative. It has terrible tracking and more "slippage" than SPY. And inferior liquidity. But VOO preform .05 % better than SPY over long term.

>>22849962

I don't really touch ETFs often enough to give any good advice on it. I mostly buy 4/8 week t-bills at auction from treasurydirect to float the cash since I go for big plays rather than day/swing trade and deal with market fluctuation. That and holding some slow growth companies.

>>22850014
I put some money in every month, and anything extra after buying growth stocks gets put into DIV

>>22850014
love it when I get my divvies
just felt the KHC and KNG divvies hit my account last night
still feels good

>>22848991
yeah ES all normal. If anything probably what caused it am AAPL split and crash
people had rebalance after AAPL split and it just fugged everything up O_O

>>22850050
>>22850014
I would care i just don't have enough money for it to make sense to by dividend stocks

>>22850050
Is your portfolio built around dividends? Is KNG your only dividend etf?

>>22850050
THIS HOW WE DO ANON
THIS HOW WE DOOOO

I only buy options

>>22850118
Lmao

>>22850099
I think most ETFs pay divvies
my high payout ETFs are KNG, QQQX, and SPXX

most things that I have are lower payout than those
across all of my different accounts, I have a pretty vanilla positioning, my robinhood account is the most "exotic"

so no, nothing weird. KNG and QQQX and SPXX are used as pseudo-bonds

>>22850128
let me see your portfolio line anon

>>22850014

Divs only really matter if you're either div cap strat or you have a low 6 figure portfolio to make anything meaningful from the payments or DRIP.

Any high payout dividend stocks that make sense to buy with a 14kish portfolio? Maybe in a way I don't have to go all in one one?

>>22850183
DIV pays 8-12% per year, is $15 per share right now, and pays out monthly

hows the stock market looking boys? whats everyone's sentiment regarding the way things are going

>>22850214
I'm quite bullish

im gonna dedicate myself to becoming rich.
Idk what to do tho..

>>22850230
Best way to get rich is for other people to just give you money. Find a job that entails that

>>22850243
I only know how to make others laugh

>>22850183
PSEC

>>22850014

I've had 11 thousand dollars in my emergency fund which is probably way more than I actually need. I figure I'll put like 6 thousand of that into DIV which is very unvolatile so it will act like a slightly riskier savings account.

>>22850214
Crab or upways. I don't think the bear case has much to it in short term.

>>22850181
I mean to me the ideal scenario for financial freedom is to have a dividend stream that pays all my expenses. Obviously you need millions in the market to achieve a dividend income to sustain a comfortable life. The question is getting there quickly but reliably

>>22849790
Thanks, bro. I agree completely that this is a Clown Market - there is no shame in eyeballing. In regards to solvency are you looking at assets/liabilities - what do you mean specifically?

Good pick with DENN - I am looking for something more volatile and higher risk, but DENN is a good one for long term (because of divvies). Cruise lines are good as well, and TQQQ is higher risk - but, I am interested in individual stocks.

Would you use my equation to predict an ability for recovery?

>>22849887
some say yes but I'm going to sell the post merger pump, maybe buy back in afterwards if it dumps.

>>22850211

I just bought some. Am I interpreting this right, that the ex dividend date for the whole year is january, so unless you buy in january you wait until next year to see anything?

>>22850284
You could make $50k per year with $500,000 in DIV. I admit that your life wouldn't be lavish, but you could still live comfortably.

>>22850284
what stops your ambitions? I used to blame others.

>>22850336
No, the last time it went ex was August 3rd, and paid on August 14th. Usually goes ex in the first week of the month, and pays in the middle of the month

>>22850284

>quickly but reliably
>financial freedom
>quickly
>reliably

Pick one and only one. Also there's more avenues in finance to a comfy life, the market itself is just one route.

>>22850118
why are you flexing your outlook and tinder notifications

>>22850118
Stop ghosting your tinder match.

Does anybody have that megsupload of biz financial books?
I saw it a few years ago

>>22850268
You the same anon from a month ago talking about your "emergency" fund again?

Still having trouble pulling the trigger huh?

>>22849663
I thought the market would bleed more so I bought a bunch of SQQQ but it hasn't worked the way I thought it would. If it crabs more I'll pull out and wait a bit. I want to go back into TQQQ and SOXL but I'm also going to consider a safer stake into SPY etf, or QQQ.

>>22850368
I agree, there's no reward in the market that doesn't carry equivalent risk. I just can't decide between holding TQQQ for dear life or comfortably holding higher dividend-paying more diversified etfs

>>22850431

folder/1R0QATqZ#Eb1_M5KC9gkxK6w32R2ETw

Should be this one. Sucks that old /biz/ community pretty much dissipated, things like these are relics these days.

>>22849581
What does that signify? I believe they failed in doing so anyway

>>22850493
What does your gut say anon?

>>22850513
Just the way it goes.

>>22850493

Depends on your risk tolerance honestly. One thing I just find most investors fuck up on is just not having a set boundary on how much risk they can personally take on when their "smart buys" goes south before they fold.

>>22850264
Hmm so that would be about 12k a year right with 2800 shares?

Let's consider if i held since the begging of this year..

I would have lost 4.6k holding them in march

Seems alright...as long as psec is fairly stable

>>22850513
Total idiot here; what’s the first part of the link?

>>22850596

The mega nz link, dunno if 4chan still allows full link posting but it's something I got used to.

>>22850513
Thank you fren...
Same link I downloaded two years ago ...
Thank u

>>22846576
Yes. I'm up about 20k thus far.

>>22846608
I keep getting rejected in the sense that I don't even get an interview. The few times they were interested ended up being the kinda job I will not do, tiny line in the job description and knowing how they operate.

>>22846620
Yeah I know, I know. Just need to stop being obsessed to the point of checking it for most of the trading day.

>>22846642
With 60k how long do you think it'd take to reach 200k?

>>22846649
Yeah I know, except I'm utterly obsessed and it's annoying. It's basically an addiction at this point.

>>22850211
What is difference between DIV and SDIV?

shit i don't remember how i saved half of this shit in the old op... now it's all rebrandeded... we had like over 50 books and shit.... I didn't read any of them except for like 3 of them... im thinking op needs to be re-arranged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGYzryyPImc

>>22849578
If youre so funny, become a comedian.

>>22850616
Bless you.
Thanks fren

>>22850431
>>22850513
I'm on my phone, whats it about?

>>22849784
Im hesitant on rkt. I don't think it'll go below 20. They did some crazy revs but the stock price doesn't show it. I got a few at 20.

>>22850666
yeah i have a bad issue about checking my portfolio during the work day, and now that I work from home its worse.

I need to stay away from penny stocks, only go with long holds that im confident in, check it a few times a day or set alerts.

>>22850701

Just some pdf scans of /biz/ approved reads back when it was actually about business and finance instead of the cryptoshillbox wasteland it turned into.

>>22850307
Yes, I'm looking for a good cash pile to survive the year, or some ongoing contracts to keep the company afloat. But the PPP money and tax refunds are really exciting because the whole market is denial. We need a second stimulus! Help us JPOW! Meanwhile some companies have already secured their future, but nobody seems to have noticed. Puts on DENN are high premium right now, as if it could go bankrupt at any moment.
>Would you use my equation to predict an ability for recovery?
Possibly. Is it current EPS? Then you're accounting for current market sentiment, that seems like it could have some advantage over Beta which is basically saying everything will revert to mean, but some things have more reverting to do. It might be worth doing some simulations to compare. I would say most retail is doing some version of eyeballing Beta, under a line go down? line must go up! theory. Just don't forget the fundamentals. Some companies are actually going to go bankrupt because they're not in a position to recover.

>>22850685
naw cancel culture would tear me limb from limb and fame isn't good in this society anymore. I almost did a webcomic series with my ex gf 3 years ago but she was worthless...would still get with a writer and do it again desu

>>22850701
Just a megsupload of biz books compiled a few years ago

>>22850734
In my line of work, I’m able to check my stocks about 20 times in a 9-5 shift. Too much freedom. With that being said, I would 100% prefer this then only being able to check once and missing real opportunities to buy or sell

>>22850734
no... you need to focus on your career, and understand your clients needs are like yours and focus closely on what matters the most... family and jesus.

>>22849782
>Are you bragging about having 13k? I remember having 13k of aapl and baba when I was 18 lel

Are you bragging about being born with wealthy parents?

>>22850760
I agree with everything except Jesus. And when the client needs something by a certain date I damn sure get it done.

But I do need to focus on it more closely, its just been past couple weeks I've been bad about it.

>>22849864
anon the stonk market is not inversely related to commodities.

I shouldn't have quit anti depressants this year.

i don't know why my life lead me to today, but the relationships i've created along the way have brought me closer to G_D and I feel the only respect on can feel is to the creation of everything... call it a big bang, or call it less than nothing. The biggest thing anybody can do in stocks, is set rules... obey rules, and just honestly the truth is... enjoying life is the #1 important thing. I've been told to kill my self countless times.... you can go back in the archives, but the worst is behind us. I expect volatility to increase, and if you're a young gun, dip your toe in, don't go balls deep or full retard... I have hope for all of you.

>>22849663
Buy a utility company. I recommend NEE for the growth potential and decent dividend.

mr bags is so old...

>>22850264
>>22850586
PSEC and DIV had huge drawdowns and haven't recovered as much as the DJ, forget SPX and NDX.
How can you justify that over holding VOO or QQQ and selling pieces for income?

>>22850830
yes jesus was a place holder for heaven and earth.... im sorrry, i spent all day listening to these evangelicals... my heart is in the right place, but my head is strait up my own ass.

>>22850878
Thanks baggsi I really appreicate that and your a very gneuine soul i'll go check the archives. i ahope the best for you too

Movie night movie night! Get in here! Tonite's feature is Branded To Kill (1967), classico psychedelic Yakuza film

>>22850918
I mean i was just playing with the idea.

I dont want to go all in on psec....i know nothing about dividens or psec and I only have a basic trading account

>>22850918
With dividend stocks you almost want the stock price to go down, allowing you to buy more when you reinvest your dividends. This is assuming the dividend yield doesn't fall an equivalent amount (which it typically does not)

>>22850916
no... im still young. like you don't even become a person until your 18.... then you get till 50 or 60 to be profitable, so 18 minus 50 is like 47 years old, and a 67 year old can still vote for smoking gun joe bun, we call him old smokin' gun joe bun around here. he does everything he can to hide from his ineptness and that's why we need more unions and #BLACKLIVESMATTER

>He didn't buy TSLA for the next squeeze.

>>22850873
antidepressants never helped me. They always made me blunted and worse, no personality. I did get diagnosed with add at 28...after trying so many different things.

Excercise, sleep, eating right, with military discipline were the only things that worked. But sometimes that's hard to do all the time. Best meds I've had luck with are adderall and a low dose of klonopin. I dont get depressed anymore at all. Just use them as needed, try to avoid using them too much. I get stuff done and it starts to snowball

Hello? PnD?

>>22851052
HIBB pumps Monday

>>22851052
Yes, this is PnD. Speaking?

>>22850994

You actually want some bit of growth and just average the cost basis if you're dripping. Downwards sloping stocks or stagnant picks like F or T will just do more harm in the long run since any div yield you get will get fucked by inflation and taxes. If you have a fat enough roll, you can even go for bonds and skip the cherry picking for your income portfolio altogether.

My autism in staring at meaningless numbers for fantasy football, translating 225 yards and 2 TDs into meaningless points, or seeing a star player traded and knowing that team will be passing more this season so to pick a WR, it’s all honestly translating well into stocks.

>>22851080
come over I'm lonely

>>22849663
Holding and accumulating more on dips
Plan on holding for over 20 years

>>22851106

Oh and real estate, since literally everyone is all up in rentals these days.

>>22851123
I'll be there shortly.
Just know you worf it baby.
Don't pull that trigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YP3pIPp8P8

>>22850994
I want to believe, but so many tickers have already recovered a decent amount and DIV is just sitting there.
I hope it triples for you, I really do. Some good food staples and other holdings that are bound to recover when people in cities stop pretending the sky is falling. I'll probably start DCAing into DIV or something similar when I'm older.

>>22850349
Wait no shit?

>>22851328
Yeah, no shit.
If you're a smart poorfag that's basically the grail.
Honestly I could get by on 400k in divvies.

>>22851352
That's pretty good and you don't have to painstakingly cobble together divvy stocks yourself.

I just need to get $500k into my traditional IRA so it'd all be tax free.

>>22851328
No, you couldn't. Max stable divvies you'll get are about 5% per year, whereas SPY is about 7-9% CAGR. Stocks that yield more than 5% just cut to 0 and/or go bankrupt within 2 years.

>>22851496
QYLD would like a word with you

>>22851352
holy fuck... why shouldnt I throw my retirement RRSP into this fund and drip for 30 years?

what is the catch on DIV?

>>22851435

>traditional
>tax free

Traditional is tax deferred so you're going to pay uncle sam once you take the money out. Roth is the tax free variant, since it's all post-tax money going in it.

>doubled my money in psychedelics (MMED), sold, and now going to put it in some low-risk utility or infrastructure stocks and hold until at least the end of the year while I focus on other shit

>>22851621
I think the idea is you want a traditional IRA during your peak income years so you can defer the tax to when your retired and earning noting. Roth Is for outside your peak earning years... or somet

but then, if you can defer for decades isn't that like an extra 20% that can compound for decades?

>>22851584
The catch are divvies underperform even the SPY.
>>22851502
>a non-divvy stock is a divvy stock because I got BTFO yet again
Why.
Why do you keep doing this to yourself.
Do you know what a covered call is or does, retard? Fuck.

>>22851496
DIV is an ETF

>>22851621
>you're going to pay uncle sam once you take the money out
Lmao that's for me way in the future to worry about

>>22851584
Captcha is fucking me so hard rn.
But it depends on how old you are, how much you're throwing in, etc. Divvies will always underperform the broader market.
DIV is great if you already have considerable capital to invest and want to live off of it.
Not so much if you're young and interested in growth.

>>22851788
It's a dividend ETF. Keep up!
Here's your return over 5 years including dividends, bro.

>>22851864
I'm seeing less and less of a reason for me to not dump around 90% of my paycheck into various ETFs t b h

>>22851584
because you have a TFSA which you should be maxing out first unless your company is matching your RRSP contributions

>>22851726

There's like 2 reasons why you open a traditional ira over roth. The first reason is that your personal income is out of the federal maximum income limit for a roth, and the second one is that you don't have a wage slave job to contribute into a roth ira. Traditional IRA withdrawals are going to be taxed at your income tax rate bracket so you will get fucked over if you succeed in life. There's strategies around the ira stuff but it's a different beast altogether.

>>22851896
You want to dump around 90% of your paycheck into a negative 40% return ETF???
Anyway just put it all in TQQQ if you want to make it. The only good ETFs are leveraged ETFs, everything else is just memes you can do better without paying the fee. For example, you can take SPY, look at the top 10 holdings, and invest proportional to their market cap, then rebalance once a month. This will give you far better returns than spy (20% CAGR stable) with similar downside.

>>22851896
because shit like MSFT and TSM doubled in 1 year alone while your dividend ETF took 4 years to double

>>22851986
Are those extra returns worth the extra short term capital gains tax you would incur from rebalancing every month?

>>22851986
Nah not DIV, but other ETF's like VOO and the aforementioned TQQQ
>>22852004
90% was an exaggeration. I'd definitely leave a chunk for individual companies

>>22851783
in share price yeah, so basically what you are saying is that the amount I made in divvies is going to be less then the amount gained per share had I just gone with an index?

Do i have that right?

>>22851783
You’re a fucking retard

>>22852103
unless you are already retired and need the dividends, growth stocks with 2%-4% div yield will grow 2x or 3x within years and will basically match your divvy stock's yields that stayed stagnant the entire time (e.g. REITs)

>>22851864
As long as the stock is alive and doesn't massively cut it's dividends, does he really care much about it's price? If his goal is to live solely of dividends and never sell his principal

>>22852103
As far as ETFs go, VOO and TQQQ are the much wiser options if you're trying to grow your stack as a young / youngish person.
I think a couple of anons misunderstood what I was saying about DIV and now I feel bad.

>>22852205
yeah sure if he was in his 60s already

>>22852205

There's better alternatives at that point and at lower risk if you just want a passive income stream. Plus if the price keeps tanking, the payouts will become more unsustainable and either gets cut or suspended.

>>22852142
Now do QQQ

reminder that day trading and making millions won't make you less of a manlet

CLIS app launches this week, expect some big percentages.

What are the best leveraged tech ETFs?

>>22852592
QLD

>>22852592
GME 20c 10/2

>>22852592
Tqqq

But I dont know if thats safe to hold long term.

>>22852666
Is QLD safe to buy and hold?

QLD or QQQ or ARKK

>>22852360
QQQ is riskier and has less history to show how predictive it will be for future results. But yeah lots of stuff make more money that div stuff. But nothing has more growth, stability, and safety. You can always leverage your account to increase earnings

ME NUMBER 1

>>22852298
What's an example of a better alternative?

What are you going to do with all of the money you'll make on monday?

>>22852513
Wednesday apparently. Maybe I should buy another 1000 shares

>>22852592
Anecdotally, SOXL has been my most profitable tech swing trading vehicle.
It's very predictable in TA terms, and the industry itself is solid.
Worth looking into at the very least.

>>22852691
QLD is 2x leveraged QQQ. Historically about 2x has given the best CAGR for the nasdaq 100: http://www.ddnum.com/articles/leveragedETFs.php..

yes, quite shallow and pedantic

>>22852142
im pretty sure this is quite literally a lie

>>22852758
T number 3

ii think the happiiest couples are the ones who share goals, honest true goals, and from a goalie you got to respect great couples.... i want to be proposed.

>>22852873
baggy are you drunk

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CRASH OR NOT

THE CORRECTION 3 DAYS AGO BROUGHT THE MARKET DOWN TO NORMAL LEVELS, RIGHT? NO MORE BUBBLE?

>tfw no gf

what if we crash....

>>22852936
>ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CRASH OR NOT
yes

>>22852987

WHAT THE FUCK WHY

>>22852873
There’s a reason I hide my Robinhood app on my phone from my girlfriend and tucked it into Shortcuts who no one ever clicks

you let your gf touch your phone?

>>22852718

Off my head, rental and bonds. REITs that aren't dogshit if you don't want to wait 3-5+ years to start getting any good ROIs on properties and deal with the tax headaches. Bonds you can go for TIPS/ordinaries or into corporate notes if you want to take a bit of risk for more interest. Preferred shares also work, but it's more illiquid and you need to know your shit if you want to dabble in it especially if they're convertibles.

>>22852920
i would never get behind the wheel of an automobile right now,,, it hurts i was slammed with a 30 day bad for being underage... look god is here, and honestly... im thirty-two years old. i hate how i got a ban but what ever blue boards should be no lies... i hate anonymity, i encourage individualism... im really the most free living person you'll meet, but i feel an upset user targeted me, signed up to become a jannie just to target me... all i got to say is this.

Redemption exists, and I hold no harmful feelings, who ever reported my jest joke, and to the moderator who's table is full... I want to apologize, the truth is, i've been an avid shit poster who's been unwilling to change the op,,,, i will change the op and the copy pasta will be better for everybody,

i thank you all... i won't be working monday Yom Kippur is my one day i get to attone and pray. give me that one day.

>>22853018
I'm sorry, I've reviewed the data.
It's a certainty at this point.
Now, later, why, what? Who can say?
But the answer is unequivocally yes.

>>22853112

THEN SHOULD I BUY NOW OR WAIT POST ELECTION

oh no, the data
the CRASH data
it's all there

Markets are open Monday right? Or is this Jew shit gonna affect us?

>>22853145
Well, you have two options.
You can buy, or you can sell.
Honestly my advice is to just go for it.

how many times does it take for them, (anonymous) to tell me to kill my self, take my own life, for me to give in and do it... I shrug this shit off all the time, but damn.... your kys and shit doesn't work... i started using this

kys= keep your-self safe


and telling me to kill my self only gave me inspiration to find reasons for life.... I want to thank the creator, and i'm upset of the personal attacks i receive almost every fucking day,

>>22853076
Any recommended REIT etfs?

>>22853274

Like I said I don't do ETFs, so I can't give you anything. Personally I invested in AMT for the past 5 years with my winnings.

>>22853180
Jews want to make money everyday

>>22853214

BUT WHEN SHOULD I BUY

DON'T GIVE ME SHIT ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO TIME THE MARKET, I WANT TO BUY IF THE ELECTION IS GOING TO CAUSE A DIP

>>22853274
Not an ETF, but look into NRZ

>>22853370
Well you see, this is the conventional wisdom.
If Biden wins, the market probably goes down.
If Trump wins, the market probably goes up.
Those are your odds. I'd pull the trigger.
Don't miss out.

>>22853388
why?

>>22852873
the happiest couples are one who are good partners (i.e, like business, ect) before lovers. You get alot more trust and acceptance when you know they can handle themselves. Dependency is the killer of romance, enjoy it, not need it.
As long as my half of shit is paid, what I do with my money (which is invest like a fucking retard) dosnt matter.

>>22852701
QQQ + covered calls

>>22853500
I was eyeing it before the crash so I'm somewhat biased, but it's got a decent yield and solid holdings.
It's been good to me. I said look into it because I'm fucking blasted rn.
If you don't like it, don't buy it.

>>22853508
the best thing to do in life is become happy.

i have never felt this way before... i almost want to scream from the top of my fucking roof, but you get iit...

I need to stop being a drunk loser, and become a winning individual, thanks anon! God bless you and everrybody you care about, you've made my whole life change in a single post.

>>22853582
But then who will i short?

>>22853331
AMT has impressive growth but mediocre dividend yield and if you're looking for passive income stream aren't you more concerned with the dividend yield? Sorry if I'm missing your point.

I don't know why you assholes keep screaming bull on these p/e ratios that just are hhype bull shit... I honestly hope you all prayed for Ron Paul, the man's son is a senator, like if your a congressman, and your son becomes a doctor and goes onto become an elected senator,, not just anybody, but he crafted a bill that was to end no knock warrents federally, on what's her cunts name... they gets assualted leaving the RNC event they had... I feel people are losing touch of reality.

>>22853703
don't short my calls anymore.. iit worked well, but ii'm not going to give you these calls. the bogdandoff's have forgiven me.

J'aim bein

Nothing should be confusing.

quantitatively inclined anon here in response to the fellow asking about estimating FTD shares

The SEC provides FTD for all securities at regular intervals
https://www.sec.gov/data/foiadocsfailsdatahtm
the latest available is through August of this year, so I was hoping to see if I could correlate it to any of the short data metrics from ortex (Estimated SI, short volume) and try and make some predictions about FTD shares into September

Unfortunately even the best predictor (the finite differences derivative of the SI, i.e. daily change in estimated SI) was very crappy, with all of it's predictive power driven by a single FTD outlier of 347,372 shares on the 25th of August. Essentially the data is too noisy and incomplete for a "quick and dirty" empirical approach.

Just to ameliorate concerns about settlement time
(it takes 2 business days for share transactions to settle which is when shares actually FTD, but the SEC wasn't super clear about whether the date in their data was the transaction date or the settlement date)
I tried testing against predictors timeshifted by T-2, but then all the correlations went to essentially zilch (no relationship) which makes me think the SEC date is the transaction date.

I'm gonna try to put together some sort of differential equation model for the shares (imagine modeling a tank filling with water) but it's gonna take some time, because
a) I don't work in quantitative finance
b) I couldn't find anything relevant to work off with a cursory literature search - everyone just reads the SEC numbers

GME data I compiled if anyone wants to look at it:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/v7yxd8xtaki49n4/GMEdata.xlsx/file

>>22853734

I just gave what I went with personally as my bias leans towards growth with a small dividend. If you want the generic response, I'd just say O. 4.69% annual yield, monthly payouts, 41 p/e, literal dividend aristocrat, probably in every boomer's portfolio whether directly or baked into some ETF.

Gentlemen, do me a favor. Google "second crash"

i think everybody should learn to hunt grow and cook, fishing it's like huntiing with different tools.

>>22853821
> GME data I compiled if anyone wants to look at it:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/v7yxd8xtaki49n4/GMEdata.xlsx/file

In what way is this anything of note?

>>22853853
thank god you use a trip.
filtered, you annoying faggot

>>22853847
fuck you google "the second comming"

eat shit bobo

>>22853869
thank god you use your voice to announce your censorship... aparently you can't do a fucking thing for your self or family.

>>22850014
The list of safe dividend stocks with anything close to a good payout just gets smaller and smaller. At this point I'd only look at T and even then I'm not sure any more.

>>22853864
just has all the SEC FTD data from october for GME compiled with the ortex estimated SI, exchange SI, short volume and volume tabulated so you don't have to dig through the SEC files yourself if you're interested (they have ALL the securities and they're pipe-delimited garbage)

>>22852503
If I ever saw this in person I would probably coom on the spot.

im going to give you my song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGYzryyPImc

Remember these Motley Fool articles?
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/09/25/should-you-avoid-gamestop-no-matter-how-good-the-p/
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/09/26/gamestop-investors-need-to-look-beyond-the-console/
Looks like there an erm *ulterior motive*

I hope those calls weren't naked

>>22853821
>>22853919
Beyond my level but I appreciate your analysis!

>>22853944

>owns shares of gamestop
>short calls
>those fucking short puts

No he's safe.

>>22853944
are you retarded? or is this your first short squeeze? liistnn, go ahead, ii literally called this shit at the bottom and it's just stupid, not a long term investment,,,, fuck i got a new car from the profits and walked before the real fireworks went off... but what do you think market cap is top? the truth is, buying more won't work at the top... i hate it,.

>>22853944
during a short squeeze just providing liiquidity creates exits, and don't want you get left holding the bag and 15 or 16 bucks, what everr have you fun...

>>22854045
>what do you think market cap is top?
Completely unpredictable. I intend to work off of the short interest and days to cover numbers to determine the exit to my position

>>22854039
hard to tell without knowing the size of his position. The bear spread is a bit of a lel though

>>22853944
>$9 September calls
F

>>22851003
>next squeeze

Explain

>>22854109
wasn't $9 the "max pain" for 9/25 calls

>>22854084

He's out what, $1000 per naked contract? Unless he closed or hedged his short after publishing the fud articles.

>>22854117
It's underway rn
Battery day letdown was the perfect setup

>>22854084
>Completely unpredictable
this is the most truth you will ever see from a GME holder, the truth is we are in a squeeze, but it's not worth long term investment and you should take profit, or get greedy and just like watch this asshole from the last thread making up shit. people believed him, but he was full of shit. his story didn't hold water.

>>22853944
>It's afraid...
>IT'S AFRAID!

>>22854223
>the truth is we are in a squeeze
we are not. SI has done nothing but climb since after earnings

>not worth long term investment
Holding past next earning is something I would recommend against yes. But right now the trend is your fren

>just like watch this asshole from the last thread making up shit.
you're probably talking about me you absolute retard lol

>>22854188
well the disclosure did also say he owned shares, so atleast some of his position was hedged

Must've hurt though. I bet he was hoping for another DOOOMP on Friday

>>22854149
i can tell you it's not close, wait till the DOT tells california to go fuck its self futher.... these asshole SJW's that just legislate from the power of a pandemic to use it to create a green energy mandate, look half the country, the part that works the farms and feeds you... go ahead those mountains and forest fires are your problem, and science shows solar panels increase local climate change and your going to have to set up desalination soon. or just surrrender to afriican roundball enthusiests.

>>22854260
no i was talking about this.,.. the faggot was you? dude acted like he went to a game stop store talked to the manager, i called you out on your lie you called me retarded again... what ever, you're trying to be a pig in shit, and i'm just saying you're full of shit.

FUCK YOU TELLME WHAT TO BUY

>>22854149
Not sure what you mean, it got pinned around $10 at the end of the day ending at $10.02 so I assume everyone from $10 down got assigned. Max pain was probably $2 given the hubris of some of the shorts.

>>22854283

Eh, he can always buy back the contracts for about ~$100 each, or go for the $10 strikes if he was feeling risky. Going with how OTM those short puts are, he probably was just some piker that bought 100 shares to gain some semblance of validity, as if posting on memely fool had any left these days.

why does 4channel.org advertise so much porn. can't i just keep my dick in my pants.

i mean i can show my penis... again, it'd be like the 3rd or 4th time. RKG want's to see spicy... I don't do piecings but, maybe this would be worth looking at.

What's your favorite indicator for volatility on a single ETF like QQQ?
ATR over a few days?

>>22850181

dividend companies outperform, or they don't. it doesn't matter how much money you have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADncN9HIa4

>recession era jokes start being funny again
Pretty bearish, not gonna lie.

>>22854487
Pink wojacks

>>22849581
What is exactly is the picture saying? Dont fully understand it.

>>22854571
look the whole reason a company pays a dividend is because equity holders don't want to sell, but the company has lost growth opportunities... most dividends are ok, honestly it's getting reallyt bizare, but just buy everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjcOJmoJwpk

>>22850256
Make me laugh BITCH

>>22849688
>Just going to average down gme and tsla because I fucked up big time on both
Iktf. Intended to buy tesla after it dumped...decided to wait some more....pumps up $40. I literally couldve bought the bottom at $355 and i didn't REEEEEEEEEEEE

Is dating a chink a good idea?
once the chinks start taking over its not going to go well for us white guys, so maybe having a chink gf gets me an honorary title

also should I buy BABA or Tencent?
Ive been keeping my eyes Xiaomi for while now too

>>22854733
Half white half black means you are black to the whites and white to the blacks. Half white half asian majes you asian to the whites and white to the asians.

>>22849887
Yes, even at 55, I would recommend it.

You need to understand something about SHLL. It's leading all the SPAC's. Not even NKLA was as high as SHLL was before merger. It could get nuts Monday when merger happens.

>>22853895
This. I see nearly the same trend in all of them. Like jeeez what are these companies doing that causes their value to go down along with their dividend. Im talking about companies with good dividends too. Not some stocks thats $50+ and gives you $1 total a year cause lol that almost nothing. I've only got 1 dividend pick and it's a reit that survived 2009.

>>22853370
>DON'T GIVE ME SHIT ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO TIME THE MARKET, I WANT TO BUY IF THE ELECTION IS GOING TO CAUSE A DIP
Based. Id much rather it time it than be the guy who bought the top in February (and likely panic sold at the absolute bottom)

do any of you incels have sex? I'm 70% horse 30% dphc and i have sex regularly

>>22854790
I really am tempted to sell at the pump, but i also have a feeling this fucker has legs. Not to mention, if it flies on monday due to merger confirmation, wont it be higher when they actually merge and the ticker becomes HYLN?

>>22854818
just had anal with my girl thanks
100% GME

>>22854818
>OWNS WKHS AND LORDSTOWN MOTORS...Has sex regularly

Oxymoron. Usually the only ones getting laid are Oshkosh holders...since they're going to get the USPS contract...obviously.

Also, pics or it didn't happen.

>>22854834
based lifestyle and based portfolio fren I hope you make it but even if you don't at least you're having sex

I want it here... known and true.

I officially surrender, Jesus was God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1yeC2wmtzw

>>22854853
yeah it sure sucks holding WKHS since <4 and DPHC at 11.30 I might as well kill myself

>>22854832
It's anyone's guess. I doubt traders are going to sell until it reaches 55-60. Why would traders sell at 45-50? For 5-10% gain...when traders expect 20%+

If I had to throw a ballpark figure. If markets are green it could go NKLA high...60+.

If markets are red 50-55.

It'll be fun, but unlike NKLA. This company has structure, a viable product, a truck that's better than any other EV semi, including Tesla. Once it receives 300+ million dollars from SPAC, it'll lead to more good news as time goes on.

>>22854733
>Is dating a chink a good idea?
i tried once. she's kinda socially retarded, doesnt know how to hold conversation, ie one word replies. dunno when we'll meet in person ill let you know how it goes

>>22854684
That's my sell signal! I need to spot the drop in ticker volatility as a buy signal.

>>22854869
Jesus I will make the rest of my life something you would do.... I will venture and make hard decisions, and if I get killed, it is because you Jesus are the only martyr who can hold my respect and thank you... I say one prayer, Hail Mary, Full of grace, the lord is with thee, blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy whomb Jesus. Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

>>22854884
Good on you. They will get some of the contract, especially because of California, but Oshkosh will get more of it and unlike WKHS, it's not priced in...

...God I wish I had PUTS on WKHS when it was 30...

guys... i've sinned ive helped people sin... ii've been a terrible person...

>>22852142
The hilarious thing about most people is that they don’t take into consideration the fact that many companies like Sears are now gone, instead they take the current dividend aristocrats and roll them backwards, like in this chart, if the analysis was at all in depth and at all not retarded it would look correct, which this is not. This chart is like saying, if you took the tech mega caps since 1990 they CRUSHED everyone else and showed a graph of Netflix, FaceBerg, Google, Apple and Amazon, when an accurate chart would include Dell, HP, Sun, Sony and Yahoo.

>Try not to be such a retard tomorrow.

>>22852735
I have 80k shares right now at a 9.1 average (I FOMO’d back in before beta) but I need to iron out my exit strategy

>Futures

im going to change my tripcode... i want to think hard... I'm thinking of my new name now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM8V1XOI-14

>>22854907
I got 100 shares at the exact last possible second via selling a 46.5 put. After reading up pretty happy i did. I think this is an excellent long term investment. Im very hesitant to sell a pump to get some short term gains when they are poised to compete and potentially dominate tesla in certain sectors over the coming years. Im thinking im going to hold

i say i hope for my last first kiss, but i'ma knock this broad up and you don't understand, we love them.... ii will kiss my babies...

>>22854733
Asian women are a double edged sword. They will do anything you want, fuck like champs, super loyal and if you get an academic one they are smart. HOWEVER, they all have an expiration date (well, proven from the 6 I dated from different asian cultures): after around 7-8 months of dateing, they start to show how fucking vain and inexplicibly clingy they can be. The "Oh, playing games again, instead of sitting with me..." type shit until its "REEEEE IM NOT GOOD ENOUGH FUCK YOU, YOU HATE ME" when all you wanted to do was take a nap.

And maybe BABA, tencent just dosnt seem like it had the appeal it onces did.

>>22855022
They truly are a long term hold. I mean, if it Pumps to the moon, buy a PUT, because the company will do great long term. Don't be surprised if it gets contracts with HUGE companies by eoy. It's going to get a lot of hype, FAST.

>>22855077
ah yes the emotional manipulation game, my viet ex tried this.
I ghosted that psycho after that

she was so beautiful I miss her...

>>22852936
Of course there will be a second crash. Much bigger than the dip we saw on march.

>>22855077
i don't think you reconginize your own expiration date, but i will tell you i've become a follower of jesus, and iit is through him I have a life with out ending... i am a man who's about to hold a woman's hand and ask for mariiage, i have a ton on my head... i will still fast for yom kippur, but i think ii should find a catholic, uhh i own guns and stuff, getting me near a mosque,,,, i stick way the fuck out, that asshole was a liar, and is the reason we don't have a union and love in america.

>>22855264
look at the hindu text, and no further than ghandi, and how bengladesh and pakistan seperated.

>>22855077
I've fucked so many hot women of almost all races...except black and asian. I need to try to dip my feet those waters

Girls love Hyliion shareholders, so it's easy to engage with them. Papa Healy truly blesses us.

Also, he's going to be youngest SELF MADE billionaire starting Monday at 28 years old. Align yourself with successful people anons.

monday will be blood red btw

Bros...

>>22855289
thank you for not fucking my future wife.

>>22855308
Explain

>>22855289
i don't need any more money... i just need a day off and to repent forever and become one of those catholic things.

>>22855310
Fuck off shill

>>22855313
Lol. Asian girls tend to be sought after in my area...so they have crazy standards.

Black women...It's hard to find a good looking one. They all look hideous except for maybe light skinned blacks like Rihanna types.

>>22855326
Hookers can provide the same, but can also relieve your other needs.

Since we are talking about BABA and Tencent: Any opinions on the 'Ant Group' IPO coming up this week in Hongkong?
Apparently it's an Alibaba-owned fintech company, and is expected to have the biggest IPO of all time, even topping Saudi Aramco.

>>22855380
why are you so less valued? shit let not be judge unless you be judged...

fuck this I give up I'm not even apealing my ip ban from my other isp... you have no idea what love is, or what god is.... i hope you search, why is being catholic wrong? i accept the pope! im offically a catholic. i hate niiggers.

>>22855380
you've lost your self in judgement... i pray for you to find happiness, for in your judgements of what isn't good for me, it's not good for them either, the worst thing is to bring a new life into the world that is unaccepted and unloved... jeasus loves everyone and he died for us to forgive our birth.... it's truly already ripping my heart out, i mean a blonde haired blue eyed didn't fiind god until he met a korean girl

i'm just unhappy the thread is so solemn, and un-pure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L4Rixya64

What does this means bros? Crypto dead? Turn /BIZ into pre-crypto?

ok yeah the pope was fucking wrrong... we need a nigger pope.

>>22854733
>cheekbone.jpeg

you know what... i think jesus needs me to help hold his faith.... i just get to become a catholic and introduce my gf to church, tomorrow iis going to be fun, she though big meal, no no no we're going to church. wait danny you said synogouge, and im like bitch im driiving.

>>22855612
You seem manic today.

>>22853238
I want you to be safe, Baggi bro. I unironically want everyone in this thread to make it and get rich (even smug bears). Be strong.

Do all of you a favor.

PUTS on draftkings.

No Covid-19 cases in football....yet. It's a matter of "when" then "if". Expect overreaction, because normies have small brains and are sheep. Not understanding that this virus is a nothing burger.

That's one of my favorite plays of the month for October. Should be easy gains as PUTS on Draftkings likely to be cheap, especially as high as it is RN.

October = Virus Season

>>22855563
crypto was always illegal they shut a guy down for printing his own currency in the 90s

but crypto i guess they were too lazy to control it because its on the internet

>>22850736
/biz/ really is 99% trash. I've only ever visited /smg/ and a couple times I checked out /pmg/.

>>22856114
I want to know crypto reaction when the digital dollar is created....It seems inevitable. China wants to do it and I feel the FED wants to beat them to it.

I doubt it's going to be a positive reaction. People likely to pull out of Bitcoin....and I'm going to have to have PUTS on MARA & RIOT in that case.

>>22856089
long puts where exactly?

>>22856219
The whole entire month of October is Virus season. The only bad news would be stimulus; however Draftkings has already made decent gains thanks to NFL season so it won't rise too much.

I'm going to base this on the weather in my area (midwest). I suggest as soon as next week or next following week.

>>22856204
not to mention 99% of cryptos that ever existed were proven pump and dump scams

you realize pump and dumps are illegal?

there would be thousands of people in prison if the state enforced laws but crypto is part of the mark of the beast with bill gates thats why it goes unchecked

>>22856204
What is a digital dollar? How is it different than my bank account? Nothing is backed by gold, so isn't a dollar and a digital dollar the same thing? Neither has intrinsic value.

>>22856421
but you have to use paypal to send to your friends easily

the point of making the dollar in crypto is so you can just make payments without any fees

>have $50,000
>spend the next year rigorously learning TA, FA, looking through thousands of companies and becoming an analyst from home
>paper trade until a financial quarter of positive results that can't be attributed to luck
>trade options until i become a millionaire
Where does my plan fail?

WHAT WAS THAT

>>22856452
paper trading isn't the same thing

>>22856452
>paper trading
you don't become a real trader without paying the market tuition bro

>>22856452
Not a bad plan, but paper trading isn't the same. It's easy to be confident when there is no risk involved. The risk does things to you, makes your judgement cloudy. But overall it's a better plan than most.

>>22856452
Read the book "Trading in the Zone". The most important factor in trading is psychological.

>>22856481
It’s good for gaining knowledge about the market. It’s how I learned to trade options without losing all my money. It becomes pointless or even detrimental when you’re chasing paper profits. Too many I should have done this on my actual account moments happen as well.

I missed the AAPL dippo
Unless it isnt actually finished lol
Is it a good price to buy in now long term?
Idk i just wanna own that bitch, shouldve copped at 104 but was waiting for 100 even

>>22856421
Digital dollar is the USD in digital form.

It's backed by nothing...just like the USD.

They say it's meant for emergency stimulus purposes....but it's most likely to track down EVERYTHING you do involving money.

>>22856540
Thanks, definitely will do.

>>22856542
>Too many I should have done this on my actual account moments happen as well.
This is one way it might be really detrimental. You might accidentally make 10% on one trade and get FOMO and then wipe your real account out.

>>22856558
and also delete cash and force you to be part of their new world order

Whats happening to Joe Rogan?

>>22856615
The tracking your spending I get, but this point doesn't make sense. Unless all of your wealth is in precious metals, you are already locked into their system. If the US collapsed tomorrow all your money would be worthless overnight.

>>22856552
I'm bearish on Apple long term. Without Steve Jobs, I don't see the same "game changing" innovation as the past. They seem like they're running out of ideas for iphones, ipads and apple computers...(See Apple Dongles)

Tesla, Nvidia are better picks as well as Hyliion.

>>22856452
Plan fails because during that time doing TA training, you're not going to get laid. That will eventual lead to cortisol levels increasing leading to irrational decisions and eventual suicide. Calls on SWBI.

>>22856643
read patent 060606 by bill gates

they get their chip inside you to verify you have the vaccines for covid and they also put your stimulis on your chip which is connected to the new crypto currency world currency

>>22856452
>he doesn’t know markets adapt to real trades

Sounds like a perfect plan to me, anon. Go with it.

how much SHLL to make it?

>>22856674
Not enough.

>>22856650
I'm not saying I'm for it, I'm just saying that digital currency would barely be a better form of control than what they already have.

i like weekends because i don't have to worry about losing everything during weekends

>>22856688
>digital currency would barely be a better form of control

actually once they have that scanner chip they can block you from entering walmart or getting on a plane because you have no evidence of vaccination

theyre able to kill off everybody who doesnt get microchipped and vaccinated

>>22856688
then once youre microchipped they have a way of giving you more stimulus based on your big government good boy points like china social credit

if you go on a jog exercise you get 2 bucks they completely control humanity

>>22856645
Actually i feel the same about apple
But i am jelly of the gains this year and FOMOing hard because of the dip

>>22856674
I’ve got 443.8 shares. Hoping the merger makes me lots of money

>>22856800
Social control becomes easier. If they take it in the way they seem to be going with their current efforts then people won’t realize what’s happening before it’s too late. The people will forget and society will go on as designed. Pain and suffering will still persist at the designed levels. Comfort and leisure aren’t profitable.

>>22856452
>paper trade
Here's what's going to happen, you're going to lull yourself into a false sense of confidence wasting your time with your monopoly stonks and then as soon as you have actual skin in the game you're going to panic and buy high and sell low just like every other beginner. It's like a retarded kid with a hot stove, the only real way to learn is to burn your hand.

>>22856452
Most of trading is psychology. Which is the hardest part to manage. You don't know what it is like. You don't know.

>>22849568
Holding rkt bc i bought at the top

> NEW BREAD

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