/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>22796547

All four are useless pieces of shit. Buy LINK.

>>22796547
BTC forked to enforce blocksize caps. BCH forked to have bigger blocksize caps. BSV hasn't changed.

>>22796572
LINK LAW
The law stating the the longer a thread goes on the more likely a 2019+ nulinker will show up in a thread not related to or talking about chainlink and mention chainlink
usual retorts to pointing this out are replying with muh 3yrs and implying the user doesnt hold chainlink

>>22796625
>the longer a thread goes on
it was the first post

>>22796547
there are way more forks than those
you're just a newfag nigger

>>22796607
>t. has never downloaded and read BSV codebase

>>22796688
exactly

>>22797389
Nobody cares.

>>22796547
Love roger, hate bch
hate Craig, hate bch
Hate btc, love Satoshi nakamoto

>>22797800
Sry, meant hate craig, hate bsv

>>22797800
Roger is a cunt faggot too.

>>22797825
RV has done more for the crypto space than all the people you know and will ever meet for the rest of your life anon

>>22796547
Craig is a fraud and BCH and BSV's block size increases don't make the blockchain scalable enough for true general adoption, and they increase the requirements on running a full node, leading to centralization issues.
Despite this, BTC is getting centralized in China anyways, and no one is using the lightning network (which would be scalable enough for general use, but requires too much technical knowledge for the average n*rmalfag to understand in the current state).
BTC will probably stay afloat as a store of value anyways riding on its first mover advantage and the unwavering autism of the bitcoin maxi.
I'm still much more fond of Monero (parallelization resistance, privacy and fungibility) and Ethereum (genuine use cases for crypto through smart contracts) compared to any of the bitcoin derived tokens.

>>22796547
BSV is real bitcoin sir. Craig is real Satoj sir. Vishnu on blockchain sir.

>>22796547
None of the forks matter. BTC will always hold value and is the only one worth accumulating for the long term. The sooner you get this the better off you will be. Always stack BTC with your alt gains after they moon.

Craig wins. It's already decided. We are just going through the motions now, but the outcome is the same.

>>22796547
>BTC
crippled 1mb chain which stifles adoption forcing high fees. Price will stay high for a couple more years till normies realize its unusable
>BCH
chinese fork of ppl who support illegal/unregulated stuff. Community will split in november, will slowly di off afterwards
>BSV
the original bitcoin protocol unleashed. Will keep attracting developers due to highest capacity and lowest fees, initially price will be suppressed because of people hating csw and not understanding tech, in ~5 years will be the dominant version since a bunch of killer apps will have been built on it

>>22796547
That is someone's grandson

>>22798061
The person that has actually done the most for bitcoin is Pieter Wuille. Roger Ver doesn't do shit accept scam people.
Real cypherpunks write code

>>22798436
90% of transactions on bsv are op_return, which any sensible node will immediately prune as the chain grows, since these outputs are provably unspendable.
Bsvfags think they are building this giant immutable database, but in reality they are literally paying money to have their data thrown away. The ultimate cucks

>>22798631
How do you think new nodes synchronize with the network? Do you think the blockchain gets deleted when nodes prune their merkle trees?

>>22798068
Lightning is a meme and nodes propagate blocks. BSV scales, deal with it. Monero will have to deal with this as well. Let's hope they don't shit the bed and just let nodes scale instead of being faggots like BTC.

>>22798592
>Real cypherpunks write code
Cringe

>>22798631
>any sensible node
Show me a node doing this.

>>22798631
specialization will happen, storage is really cheap so services storing op return data will appear, MatterCloud for example already announced they will offer that as a service. Most company storing in op return also store it locally in their database, there bsv is seein mostly as a backup/timestamp/signing service.

While the first wave of apps was mostly op return, now that higher level languages on top of bitcoin script have been developed (see scrYpt) we will start seeing a wave of more smart contract applications similar to ethereum.
I think the minimum timeframe to look at is still 5 years, but even without looking at op return or scrypt applications, just the micro transaction application per sé is a big killer app. Btc won't be able to compete,eth can't compete either, but might have a chance if/when eth2.0 is released

>>22798083
Lol except ur right

>>22798827
ETH 2.0 is just PoS scammery. I also don't think they can get it to work anyway. 2.0 is ETHs lightning

>>22798658
>>22798778
Imagine thinking the mining industry is going to use their bandwidth and storage to serve up tons of data that isn't required for consensus. You are paying fees to store data that will be pruned and ignored. What's the point?

>>22798913
This isn't happening. You can't point to a single instance of it and even when your argument is excepted Bitcoin still works as an index. There are incentives to store the data as the other anon explained and again even if for some reason literally ever node removes something (which again has never happened) the data can be backed up off chain and cryptographically proven using transactions as index.

>>22799148
I feel bad for you anon. Scammed so hard

>>22799203
This is why BTC will lose and BSV will win. You people think in theoreticals and not in real terms looking at real incentives.
Sure selfish mining is possible. 51% attacks are possible, heck your argument can be applied to btc transaction history as well, what prevents btc miners from deleting the whole blockchain history from their hard drives and only storing the last block hash and utxo? Theoretically nothing, in practice, economic and legal incentives are what matters though, not theoretical scenarios. You don't seem to understand that so you'll probably learn the hard way.

>>22798827
Just skip all this bullshit and use a regular database with AWS in the first place then instead of using an extremely inefficient blockchain. Basically the end game of bsv is just exactly like what we already have online, except it takes a round about pointless path to get there. Bsv version of youtube is literally exactly the same as regular youtube, just an extremely centralized server and database system
Blockchains are inherently shit at scale

>>22799326
>markets are inefficient
nope

>>22799308
No because you deliberately kill the benefits that a blockchain can bring which is trustlessness, and then end up being trivially out competed by a centralized design, so therefore you just revert to the centralized design. Its completely asinine, there is zero innovation here

>>22799376
in bitcoin you trust nodes to act by their profit incentive

>>22799355
Markets are stupid as fuck because humans are stupid as fuck. The fact that people actually buy bsv in the first place is proof of that

Thinking better

>>22799402
bitcoin is a market governed currency that can replace that fiat (by decree) money remember?

>>22799326
blah blah all theory no practice. I have built apps on aws and apps on bsv, the one on bsv are costing me literally zero to run and making me money from day one, while aws charges ridiculous amounts for anything, only suckers use aws. I don't care about your theory of how aws should be better "in theory", I know about the practice.
And your talk of centralized vs decentralized is dated. Bitcoin is more "centralized" than aws, both in terms of shareholders and server farms. Again look at practice not theory.

>>22799538
>I have built apps on aws and apps on bsv
do you have examples? just found out you can build on bsv, so i guess you cant on btc? 1mb is only enough for transaction receipts i guess

>>22799538
Ok now try thinking out to the future you fucking goldfsih brain where bsv has somehow managed to succeed. There are only a few server farms holding the bsv full chain and in order to access it you have to pay them because it is impossible to do it yourself. You just took a long winded path toward reinventing a worse version of aws

>>22796547
>BTC
boomer coin that will either die a long and slow death or keep its place as a value token
>BCH
useless
>BSV
useless AND a scam rollen into one. FUCK scamtoshi

They're all shit.

>>22799766

>>22799752
they are in closed beta now but they exploit micro transactions, every transaction is between 10/50 cents, that's not doable on btc due to transaction fees of course, they also need an identity protocol like paymail which btc doesn't have as far as I know.

>>22799766
you should brush up on economics,see if Aws stores my data that's a paywalled garden, and they still have to do backups, RAID, replication.. plus charging whatever they want for it. If the data is public (published on the blockchain), anyone can compete to serve that public data and price will tend to the lowest possible, just like bitcoin mining farms gravitate towards low electricity costs. Anyway that's just theoretical, again in practice right now it's entirely free and replicated across several nodes, since they all have an incentive to store it and serve it cause they wouldn't want bsv to crash. Also personally I mostly just use bsv for micro transactions and storing small data, personally I wouldn't use it to store pictures or vids but i also don't think that's theoretically impossible or anything.

>>22796547
Zcash will overtake BCH.