/biz/ - Business & Finance

even when i make it i'm going to keep my shitty job.
wage slaving > few to no social contacts
the NEET lifestyle is unironically a guaranteed ticket to insanity and "comfy" is obvious cope

>>22718792
I have $80k in chainlink today and will never work again. I might go back to school to meet a young woman to marry at some point though so then I will technically be in education and not a NEET.
I spend the day playing with my animals, learning Korean, writing, working out, playing video games, and making sure that I eat enough healthy calories. I recently bought a guitar and am going to learn how to play. This all ends up taking most of the day most empty space I fill with meditation.

>>22718857
>the only way to meet people is through your job
Mr. Shekelberg really has you by the balls doesn't he. Outside of his environment you don't even exist.

>>22718857
I figured out how to make it work. All you need is a few pets. What humans need is not other humans, but love.

So WTF happened in 1973? Qrd?

>>22718976
A shifft in common sense. Employees shouldn't be the beneficiaries from increased productivity, the shareholders should.

>>22718857
I've been there anon. I can tell you the normie lifestyle cannot make ANYONE happy. What they want you to do is wage and spend your bucks on fancy cars, gifting women with nice meals, luxury and money. Once the employer sees you've been permanently caged (wedding ring) they will make your life hell. They know you are chained (not in the stinky way) and will walk all over you.

Embrace the VR pill. Get a 5k top of the line gaming PC and a good VR headset. VR has much better people and every day you will have a unique special stress-free and cheap experience. Normie lifestyle is unironically the cause of all your problems. Get a sex doll to finish this off and you won't have to interact with anyone besides a delivery guy and a maid.

Living this way all you need is enough gains to cover rent and basic costs. I think you could easily live under 1k a month this way if you play your cards right. If you want to do this and live like a king on 1k a month, go to Thailand. You can literally rent something close to a villa and a live-in maid (less than 100 a month) that cooks your meals and cleans after you. Get one that's also fine cleaning your sex doll and you've won at life.

>>22718963
not the only way, but a guaranteed way
maybe you're too young to understand, but once you're over 30 it is insanely hard to meet new people. every functioning person your age is married and married people do not hang with single men.
it's like a shitty game where everyone not a relationship normie gets automatically and completely excluded from society
if you didn't build up a large social circle in high school and college you are royally fucked later in life

>>22719111
If you're over 30 why are you still trying to meet people? Just give up man, love between a man and a woman isn't real anyway. You should've had a child by now

>>22718976
1970 is when it all unironically went to shit due to greed

> Outsourcing manufacturing jobs en masse
> Getting off the gold standard
> Women's rights. This is the main reason you don't have a livable wage even as a single guy. Useless stacies creating extra work for you while getting paid more. It's said the wage gap doesn't exist. I think it fucking does. Women get their cake and can eat from YOUR plate too. Women get gifted with so many things it's not funny. If you account for that, women are fucking privileged beyond belief and MEN are the ones getting less for the same amount of time/effort spent.

Right now things are only getting worse for the people who stay in the current FIAT system and simp for women to get crumbs of that promised 50's nuclear family. That will never come back. Women aren't like that anymore and society actively punishes any honest man trying to achieve it due to alimony, pussy pass and no-fault divorce

>>22719099
>Embrace the VR pill. Get a 5k top of the line gaming PC and a good VR headset. VR has much better people and every day you will have a unique special stress-free and cheap experience. Normie lifestyle is unironically the cause of all your problems. Get a sex doll to finish this off and you won't have to interact with anyone besides a delivery guy and a maid.
My nigga.

>>22719111
If you're over 30 how do you not already have a wife, kids, and at least $500k?

>>22719238
autismo

>>22719238
>wife
>500k
Well fuck, at least I have the kid

>>22719184
So much this.

>>22718976
floating point currency, abandoning the gold standard. kissinger + nixon

>>22718792
I have more than $10k in crypto, make about $10k/month revenue from my Shopify store (around $2k profit) and wageslave for about $8k/month

I'll obviously make it, but fuck this is tiring boys. I literally work/research about 15 hours every single day, I feel like I'm just working myself into the grave. I'm only 27, but I already have grey hair and am starting to get a bad back. Having a strong work ethic but also having the self awareness to realize you're killing yourself is absolute suffering

>>22719249
But BTC has existed for over 10 years, you were working over that entire time and don't have enough money to retire? You can go back to school and meet a young woman, or churches, or language exchange apps. Town hall meetings, like get involved in your community.

Outside of a woman that is necessary for the procreation of marriage I do not know what else you need so many social contacts for. It is fine to have a few contacts as you only need to interact with that which is in the current domain and what that is ebbs and flows. I think society is this way due to the oversocialization of youth from the school systems. They convince everyone that the only way forward is through this factory track which is extremely fucked up and nonsensical
>you're gonna be with the same people all day everday for months/years
Super cringe

>>22719437
>But BTC has existed for over 10 years, you were working over that entire time and don't have enough money to retire?
do you actually expect me to justify not having retired in my 30's already?

>>22719184
>half of the workforce making more than suppresses wages for the entire workforce
I get you wanted a platform to do your incel rambling but at least make it convincing, bro.

>>22719361
I'm in the same boat and in a similar age-range. My back is also hurting all the time from sitting in front of my computer. No matter how comfy you try to make it, it's not enough. The key is not to do the thing causing damage while motivating yourself to exercise your back (fuck ego-lifting, lift for health).

Passive income is key to keep your sanity. Try to do what you're doing but work smarter. Cut your actual worked hours and slow down while making your work seem exceptional. Automate as much as possible and try to oursource the most time-consuming and boring parts. This is a social skill you need to learn otherwise you burn out.

I've worked like crazy for the last 2 years and I'm literally burnt out. The thing about earning a lot is that you spend money on expensive stuff like rent/cars that leech you dry. Then you have to work harder and have more stress to keep up. Get out of that shit asap. The social validation is worthless and people change their opinion of you on the smallest mistake. Winning move is not to play here.

I recommend that you build up enough in crypto while the prices are low. If the bullrun really starts this year due to people losing trust in the dollar and fiat in general, you could stop working entirely. Spending your 20s slaving away is the biggest scam ever. This is when you should be enjoying yourself. Instead people shame you for taking rest. This ratrace is so dumb it's not even funny.

We'll make it fren

>>22719277
This is the punishment for extramarital sex, your kid will bear most of it unfortunately.
>>22719501
Yes I think you should justify it because it doesn't seem very hard to get extremely rich very fast if you look at life holistically. Just having put in $100 a month for the last 5 years into BTC even would have made you enough money to retire if you wanted to

>>22719516
> t. Doesn't understand capitalism
<<they>> want to pay you less at every cost.

>>22719582
>Yes I think you should justify it
we are right at the brink of the next bull run and unironically, despite that fact, most people here will never make it.
chances are you are one of them, so maybe don't get so insanely cocky
seriously get fucked dude, i am not going to justify not being 1 in 10.000 that retires in their 30's. at least i'm obviously not the only autist here

>>22719566
I actually am really physically active because of my wageslavery, but it's definitely contributing to my bad back. I work in trades.

And ya, passive income is the key, but it's never really truly passive unless you have huge amounts to invest. I've been making around $50/day pretty consistently from staking my $10k (which honestly could go to well over $100k in the next bullrun, my holdings are all pretty undervalued), but even a Shopify store where I basically just send products to a fullfilment center and then send them the orders ends up being a fuckton of work. Product research, site design, customer support, marketing, etc is all time consuming af

It just feels like there's no shortcuts and all the stuff that's like "heh, just give me money to earn passive income! Let us do all the hard work while you earn money for nothing!" Is all a scam

>>22719651
But 1 in 10k is a pretty high number. What do you mean by making it? For me it means that I have the ability to make decisions that can produce enough wealth to provide for myself and anyone I decide to take under my breadth. Do I need to wear $30k outfits and have a Maserati to make it? I don't think so. I currently have no expenses and see no reason to take on any expenses until the world once again opens up and am Not worried about getting married or moving out of my mothers home until I'm 26-27 which should be about a young male's natural peak in terms of finding an optimal wife.

>>22719593
There was no drastic difference in rate at which women entered the workforce in the 70s compared to the 60s so the wage leveling off wouldn't have started drastically for an a decade long on-going.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/facts-over-time
A threshold reached from a slow shift in corporate culture to be driven toward public trading rather than worker-owned while also Nixon and Reagan administration fuckery with trickle-down economics, lower anti-trust scrutiny, and union busting all contributed way more than women making competition.

Also it's (((they))), Spiro Fagnew.

>>22719714
I had some back pain too but when I started doing reverse hyperextensions, pendlay rows, deadlifts and facepulls they went away. I did a lot of stretching too.
Are you staking in stablecoins?